HomeMy WebLinkAboutTB-03/24/1992SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD
I~ARCH 24, 1992
WORK SESSION
Present: Supervisor Scott L. Harris, Justice Raymond W. Edwards, Councilman
George L. Penny. IV, Councilman Thomas H. Wickham, 'Councilman Joseph .1o
Lizewski, Councilwoman Alice J. Hussie, Town Attorney Harvey A. Arnoff, Assistant
Town Attorney Matthew G. Kiernan, Town Clerk Judith T. Terry.
EXECUTIVE SESStON
9:45 A.M. On motion of Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Cour~cilman Wickham,
it was Resolved that the Town Board enter into Executive Session. Vote of' the
Board: Ayes: Supervisor Harris, Justice Edwards, Councilman Penny, Councilman
Wickham, Councilman Lizewski, Councilwoman Hussie. Also present: Town Attorney
Arnoff and Assistant Town Attorney Kiernan. The Board met with the chairmen and
representatives of the Town Trustees, Planning Board and Board of Appeals to
discuss litigation.
10:45 A.M. Emerson Hasbrook, Cornell Cooperative Extension, met with the Town
Board to disc~uss their proposed Southold Town Water Quality Project. They propose
to undertake, in conjunction with the Town, a project to attempt to specifically,
identify sources of fecal coliform pollution in _selected creeks and embayments and
then to offer recommendations to abate those identified sources. They propose to
carry the program over a two year period. Mr. Hasbrook submitted a proposed
annual budget of 35,200 for the Town, with Cornell putting for $24,064. The Board
advised him that the Town has limited funds at the present time for road run-off.
problems, and don't know where they would find funds for this type of project.
The Conservation Advisory Council is currently working on a similar project in Goose
Creek, and has others on the drawing board. The Board will take the proposal
under consideration.
11:20 A.M. - Lorraine Santacroce met with the Board to request pe~'mission to locate
a 33 ft. house trailer on her property at 945 Tuthill Road Extension, $outhold, the
subdivision of Highpoint Meadows. The Board asked Mrs. Santacroce to check, the
covenants and restrictions on the deed to her lot to determine whether she would
be permitted to place a trailer on the property. Mrs. Santacroce returned just prior
to the 7:30 P.M. regular meeting and advised the Board the location of a trailer is
not permitted under the C&R's.
11:30 A.M. - Insurance Consultant William F. Mullen, Jr. met with the Board to
advise them he had obtained a new public officials liability insurance policy carrier,
2 Million Dollars coverage for $12,500, with a $10,000 deductible. He recommended
terminating the current policy Flat, which the Board authorized him to do.--Mr.
Mullen brought to the Board's attention advertising signs which have been placed
directly on the sidewalk two in particular in Cutchogue. He advised the Board
that the sidewalks are the Town's responsibility and he is concerned about the
liability. The Town Attorney will notify the Ordinance Inspector.
11:35 A.M. Joseph Amato, P.E., and his associate Janice Dic. tena, Cameron
Encjineerincj, P.C., met with the Board to explore the possibility of a Marine Vessel
Pump-out Facility to be located at the Town's Scavenger Waste Treatment Facility
in Greenport. They have been involved in a pilot program in East Hampton. They
agreed to make a recommendation of what the Town should proceed ~vith and submit
a proposal for consideration.
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11:55 A.M. - For Discussion Items: (1) Request from Police Chief Droskoski
attendance at a sem.nar by two public safety dispatchers (see resolution no. 10).
(2) Request from Chief Droskoski to attendance at an Underwater Aircraft Accident
Investigation seminar by the two bay constables and two police officers (see
resolution no. 11). (3) Letter from the Suffolk County Department of Health
Services regarding an amendment to the County Sanitary Code with respect to
rooming house permits. This will be referred to the Building Department for
comment. (4) Proposed resolution, drafted by Councilman Wickham, concerning the
Long Island Regional Planning Board's Special Ground Water Protection Area in
Southold Town. Following discussion of certain wording in the resolution,
Councilman Wickham agreed to redraft it and represent it ~fter the lunch break (see
resolution no. 21 for the final proposal). (5) Draft Findings Statement for the Jem.
Commons change of zone petition as prepared by Cramer, Voorhis & Associates.
Board wished additional time to study, and this will be placed on the April 7th
agenda for discussion. (6) Proposed resolution to reappoint Gerard Goehringer
a member of the Board of Appeals (see resolution no. 12). (7) Proposal from
Cashin Associates, P.C, for additional Planning/Environmental Services on the Town
of Southold Local Waterfront Revitalization Plan (see resolution no. 13). (8)
Proposal from General Code Publishers Corp. for a recodification project of the
Southold Town Code. Assistant Town Attorney Kiernan will obtain information from
other towns concerning the code books.
12:35 P.M. - Recess for lunch.
EXECUTIVE SESSION
1:45 P.M. - On motion of Councilman Penny, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was
Resolved that the Town Board enter into Executive Session. Vote of the Board:
Ayes: Supervisor Harris, Justice Edwards, Councilman Penny, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Lizewski, Councilwoman Hussie.' Also present: Town Attorney Arnoff,
Assistant Town Attorney Kiernan, Superintendent of Highways Jacobs, Principal
Account Clerk Cushman, Town Clerk Terry.---The Town Board met with their Labor
Relations Consultant Robert P. Yaccarino to discuss the proposed new collective
bargaining agreement between the Town and the C.S.E.A.
3:10 P.M. Environmental Consultant Bruce Anderson met with the Board to
discuss the SEQRA process .with respect to the proposed new Home Occupation Law.
3:45 P.M. For Discussion Items (continued): (9) Reappointment of Kenneth L.
Edwards as a member of the Southold Town Planning Board (see resolution no. 14).
(10) Request from Recreation Supervisor Kenneth R,eeves to attend a one day
seminar on Basic Supervision was denied. (11) Req~uest to attend a meeting at
Triangle Consulting with respect to the Town's Parcel software (see resolution no.
15). (12) Authorize refund to Mattituck Airbase, Inc. (see resolution no. I6).
(13) Compilation of monetary penalties for Town ,Code offenses prepared by
Councilwoman Hussie. Will be discussed again a~fter' further research by
Councilwoman Hussie. (14) Letter from the New York State Division of Equalization
and Assessment advising that the terms of the members of the Board of Assessment
Review must be staggered so only one term expires each year (see resolution no.
17). (15) Letter from Fish Unlimited requesting the five east end towns to invest
$1,000 each to help underwrite the "Peconic Bay/Nitrogen Conference" to be held
on July 23rd and 24th. Supervisor Harris will respond that the Town did not
budget for such an expenditure. (16) Proposed "Local Law in Relation to Water
Skiing" set public hearing (see resolution no. 18). 1117) Software Agreement for
the tax collection system (see resolution no. 19). (18'1 Proposal by Councilwoman
Hussie to establish a.policy with respect to compensation of Town employees who are
members of committees. This will be discussed again at the April 7th work session.
(19) Request permission for Ordinance Inspector Wieczorek and Building Inspector
Fisher to attend a Code Enforcement Educational Conference. Board members will
discuss this request with Principal Building Inspector Lessard. (20) Proposed
specifications for highway construction in minor subdivisions. Town Attorney will
put in proper form for a resolution.
:3:6:4 MARCH 2., 1992
EXECUTIVE SESSION
4:50 P.M. - On motion of Councilman Penny, seconded by Councilman Lizewski~ it
was Resolved that the Town Board enter into Executive Session. Vote of the BOard:
Ayes: Supervisor Harris, Justice Edwards, Councilman Penny, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Lizewski, Councilwoman Hussie, Town Attorney Arnoff, Assistant Town
Attorney Kiernan, Town Clerk Terry.---The Town Board discussed possible
purchase of property and pending litigation.
5:05 P.M. - The Town Board reviewed the resolutions to be voted upon at the 7:30
P.M. regular meeting.
5:20 P.M. - Work Session adjourned.
REGULAR MEETING
A Regular Meetinc. t of the Southold Town Board was held Tuesday, March
24, 1992, at the Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York. Supervisor
Harris opened the meeting at 7:30 P.M.,with Pledge of Allegiance of the Flag.
Present:
Absent:
Supervisor Scott L. Harris
Justice Raymond W. Edwards
Councilman Joseph J. Lizewski
Councilwoman Alice J. Hussie
Town Clerk Judith T. Terry
Town Attorney Harvey A. Arnoff
Councilman George L. Penny IV
Councilman Thomas H. Wickham
) Stewardship Initiative
) Meeting at Mattituck
High School
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: As you can see, we have two Board members that are
absent tonight. They are running the fourth in a series of six hamlet meetings,
that the Town Board initiated in reference to the United States/United Kingdom
Stewardship Intiative, and after this Town Board meeting tonight some of the
members here, depending on the time frame, are going to try to go up there,
and join the other members of the Board in hearing the public from this hamlet
of Mattituck, that's being held tonight at the Mattituck High School, and get
some more imput in reference to the eleven intiatives, that were presented to
the Town Board by the US/UK Team back in July. At this time, I'd like to
welcome the people in the audience. I need a motion to audit the bills from March
24, 1992.
Moved by Justice Edwards, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it. was
RESOLVED that the following audited bills be and haereby ordered paid: General
Fund Whole Town Bills in the amount of $227,910.82; General Fund Part Town
bills in the amount of $47,313.47; Nutrition Fund bills in the amount of $3,411.57;
Adult Day Care bills in the amount of $100.00; SNAP Program bills in the amount
of $2,065.05; Community Development Fund bills in the amount of $9,363.01;
Highway Fund Whole Town bills in the amount of $6,226.01; Highway Fund Part
Town bills in the amount of $8,247.32; Employee Health Benefit Plan bills in the
amount of $23,408.09; Fishers Island Ferry District bills in the amount of
$53,035.67;Southold Wastewater District bills in the amount of $67,749.99; Fishers
Island Sewer District bills in the amount of $154.63; Southold Agency & Trust
bills in the amount of $4,377.87; Fishers Island Ferry District bilIs~in the amount
of $166.84.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: I need a motion to approve the minutes of March 10,
1992, Town Board meeting.
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Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the minutes of the Town Board meetincj of March 10, I992, be
and hereby approved.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: I need a motion setting the next regularly scheduled
Town Board meeting for April 7, 1992, at 4:00 P.M.
Moved by Justice Edwards, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was
RESOLVED that the next regular meeting of the Southold Town Board will be
held at 4:00 P.M., Tuesday, April 7, 1992, at the Southold Town Hall,
Southold, New York.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris.
T-his resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
I. REPORTS.
1, Lawrence Healthcare CSEA Report for February, 1992.
2. Lawrence Healthcare PBA Report for February, 1992.
3. Southold Town Developmentally Disabled Recreation Program Report for
March, 1992.
4. Councilmen's Reports.
5. Supervisor's Report.
II. PUBLIC NOTICES
1, Suffolk County Senior Citizens Advisory Board Award nominations to
be received by April 20, 1992.
2. New York State Department of Environmental Conservation, Notice of
Complete Application of Fishers Island Development Corp. proposing to construct
a maintenance building, sanitary system, concrete pad for a propane tank, a
gravel parking area, well, and relocate an existing barracks, mimmum 65 feet
from NYS DEC regulated freshwater wetlands on golf course, Fishers Island,
New York. Comments must be submitted by April 9, 1992.
3. Notice of Evidentiary hearing on Long Island Lighting Company's
application for a gas rate increase.
4, Notice of public meeting regarding Brown Tide Comprehensive
Assessment and Manac~ement Program.
5. New York State Department of Transportation amended Order of
Establishment of "School Speed Limit of 25 MPH on Pike Street, Mattituck, NY.
6. New York State Department of Trans oration amended Order of
Establishment of "School Speed Limit of 25 MPH on Oaklawn Avenue, Southold,
NY.
III. COMMUNICATIONS.
I. Bessie E. Swann, Executive Director of C.A.S.T. thanking the Town
for supporting "Can It Day".
2. Detective Beth D. Wilson, D.A.R.E. Instructor in regard to the Super-
visor's participation and assistance in their program.
IV. PUBLIC HEARINGS.
1. 8:00 P.M. on a proposed "Local Law in Relation to Peddling and
Soliciting".
2. 8:02 P.M. on a proposed "Local Law in Relation fo Refuse and
Recyclables".
V. RESOLUTIONS.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: At this time, before we go into regularly scheduled portion
of our meeting, we have. a number of resolutions on tonight, and two pubic
hearings, scheduled for 8:00 o'clock, and 8:02 P.M., are there any member of
the audience that would like to address this Board in reference to the resolutions,
that we'll be deliberating upon shortly? (No response.) If not, let's move to
the resolutions, and why don't we start with Councilwoman Hussie?
1.~Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby cjrants permission
to five (5) member of the Southold Town Landmark Preservation Commission
to attend the Long Island Landmark Commissions Conference, sponsored by The
Society for the Preservation of Long Island Antiquities, The Preservation League
of New York State, and The New York State Office of Parks, Recreation and
Historic Preservation Field Services Bureau, at Grace Auditorium, Cold Spring
Harbor Laboratory, Cold Spring Harbor, New York, on Saturday, April 11,
1992, and the $10.00 per person registration fee, and $7.50 per person lunch
charge shall be a legal charge against the Landmark Preservation Commission's
1992 Budget.
1.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
2.-Moved by Councilman Lizewski, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was
RESOLVED that the application of Joseph W. Petraukas for renewal of his sincjle
family house trailer permit, for trailer located at 490 Hill Street, Mattituck,
which permit expired on March 13, 1992, be and hereby is granted for a si×
(6) month period.
2.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
3.-Moved by Justice Edwards, seconded by Councilman Lizewski, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants permission
to the Patchogue Kiwanis Club and Maryhaven Center of Hope, a non-profit
agency serving the mentally retarded and developmentally disabled, to use the
following Town roads on Sunday, June 14, 1992, for their fund raising bike-a-
thon: Peconic Bay Boulevard, Sigsbee Road, Factory Avenue, and Sound Avenue,
provided they secure and file with the Town Clerk a Certificate of Liability
Insurance in the amount of One Million Dollars naming the Town of Southold as
an additional insured.
3.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
4.-Moved by Supervisor Harris, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southotd hereby authorizes and
directs the Town Clerk to advertise for bids for repair of the rear differential
on the Caterpillar 816B compactor.
4.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
5.-Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Councilman Lizewski, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby approves the
amount of $458,475.00 for a bond for roads and improvements in the major sub-
division of Summit Estates, East Marion, all in accordance with the recommendation
of the Southold Town Planning Board and Engineering Inspector James A. Richter.
5.-Vote'of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
6.-Moved by Councilman Lizewski, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and
directs Supervisor Scott L. Harris to execute a Contract Budget Modification
Request between the County of Suffolk and the Town of Southold for an amendment
to the Expanded In-Home Services to the Elderly Procjram, which amendment
results tin a zero net change.
6.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
7.-Moved by Justice Edwards, seconded by Supervisor Harris, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and
directs Supervisor Scott L. Harris to execute agreements, in accordance with
the approval of the Town Attorney, with the following individuals or businesses
for the 1992 Spring Recreation Programs: Shirley Darling (tennis)
East End Insurance Services (defensive driving)
Fred Endemann (celestial navigation)
Hidden Lake Farms Riding School (horseback)
Island's End Golf & Country Club (golf lessons)
Matthew Kiiernan (basketball)
Mary Mooney-Getoff [Chinese cooking)
Ralph Scheider (square dancing)
JoAnn Terkowski (folk dancing)
Terese Wunderlich (aerobics)
$14.00 per class (1 hour)
$35.00 per person enrolled
$25.00 per class (1 hour)
$150.00 per person enrolled
$37.50 per person enrolled
$15.00 per hour (2 hours)
$40.00 per class (2-1/2 hours)
$40.00 per class (2 hours)
$20.00 per class (1-1/2 hours)
$20.00 per class (1 hour)
7.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: Once again, these 1992 Spring Recreation Programs are
continuing as we bring to the people of Southold Town as much recreation facility
programming as we possibly can have with the limited funds, that we have to
spend. We are constantly trying to improve the Recreation Center, and the
programs that we offer, and I think some of these courses, that are on here,
are retained courses, that we've had a number of years. However, there are
some that we'll be adding, and we hope that people will use this to the maximum
facilty. This is your Recreation Department, and the Recreation Department
Committee is doing ail it can to make sure that these s'ervices are what you're
looking for, and what are needed within the community.
8.-MOved by Supervisor Harris, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes an
advance fee check in the amount of $70.00 to enable Recreation Supervisor
Kenneth Reeves to.partake in a Water Safety Instructor course at Sayville Jr.
High School, and the textbook fees of approximately $25.00 to $35.00 shall be
reimbursable; check made payable to SayvHle Public Schools, charge to be made
to A7180.4, Beaches.. Contractual Expenses.
8.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
9.-Moved by Justice Edwards, seconded by Councilman Lizewski, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the
proposal of A. R. Lombardi Associates, Inc., in an amount not to exceed $2,300.00,
for preparation of the Fishers Island Wastewater Disposal System Discharge
Monitoring Report; and be it further
RESOLVED that the Board accepts the proposal of A.R. Lombardi Associates,
Inc., on a time and material basis according to their 1992 fee schedule, to prepare
the Permit Renewal for the Fishers Island Wastewater Discharge System to the
New York State Department of Environmental Conservation and the Suffolk County
Department of Health Services, all in accordance with their, proposal for the
aforesaid services dated March 23, 1992.
9.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
10.-Moved by Supervisor Harris, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby ~rants permission
to Public Safety Dispatcher 2 John Raynor, and Public Safety Dispatcher Claude
Kumjian to attend a s~minar presented by the University of Delaware, entitled
"Use of Supervisory Principles Within Communication Centers", on April 14 and
15, 1992, at New Castle, Delaware, and the tuition of $275.00 per person, and
necessary expenses for meals, lodging and travel shall be a legal charge against
the Public Safety Communications 1992 Budget.
10.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: This resolution the Town Board felt was necessary for
these individuals in order to obtain the highest possible standards for our
Public Safety Dispatcher that we have. In our PoHoeDepartment we have a state
of the art facility there, and we feel that that facility is probably one of the
highest standards, that we can maintain for the safety of our residents, and
the people that run that facility on a daily bais, such as John Raynor, who
is the Chief Safety Dispatcher, and Claude Kumjian, who is probably one of
the older Public Safety Dispatchers, that the Town has, are some of the keys
to the running of a smooth operation, and their public education, and enhance-
ments, that they bring, back to this town are directly beneficial, not only to
the residents, but, also, to the Police for which the services they provide to
each, and every one of us. So, we certainly are in favor of education, and
hope that they will come back with a lot of information to help this town go
into the next decade. Thank you.
11.-Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Councilman Lizewski, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby cjrants permission
to Senior Bay Constable Donald Dzenkoski, Bay Constable Andrew Epple, Police
Officer Joseph Conwa¥, Jr., and Police Officer Edward Grathwohl to attend an
Underwater Aircraft Accident Investigation, Rapid Water Rescue, Recovery
Techniques course at Shelter Island, New York, on April 29, April 30, and May
1, 1992, and the tuition of $175.00 per person, and the necessary expenses
for meals and travel shall be a legal charge against the Bay Constable's 1992
Budget.
11'.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: Once again, this resolution unfortunately is apropos
considering the tragedy that just took place at LaGuardia Airport, and USAir
flight where a number of people, as you know, were killed. It's certainly is
something that we ~eel this town should never need we hope, but in case a
tragedy does occur here, which is a possibility, considering that we do have
an airport, not only in Mattituck, but also one on Fishers Island. We certainly
need the health and safety of those residents protected, and this incidental
requirements, that these officers will be going towards in educating, again,
themselves with nothing more than a benefit to a standard, which we try to
uphold within our Police Department, so we hope that the information, again,
that's received from these gentlemen will be useful, but hopefully, will never
have to be used within the Town boundaries.
12.-Moved by Councilman Lizewski, seconded b,v Councilwoman Hussie, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby reappoints
Gerard P. Goehringer a member of the $outhold Town Board of Appeals, effective
April 30, 1992 through April 30, 1997; and be it further
RESOLVED that the Town Board hereby reappoints Gerard P. Goehringer Chair-
man of the Southold Town Board of Appeals for calendar year 1992.
12.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
13.-Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Justice Edwards, it wa
RESOL~VED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the
proposal of Cashin Associates. P.C., dated March 11, 1992, to perform additional
work on the Town of Southold Local Waterfront Revitalization Plan, at a cost
not to exceed $9,500.00 for the aforesaid services; all other terms and conditions
of Cashin Associates' orignal contract with the Town of Southold, dated August
13, 1990, shall continue to apply.
13.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: Once again, this Waterfrom~t Revitalization Plan, that
the Town has been working on for a number of years, is a State mandated plan,
of which if we didn't customize it, and present our own plan to the needs of
this community, the State would come down, and impose a plan on us, that is
generic, and certainly would not fit in with the community of the Town of
Southold, so the work that has been going on with the Waterfront Revitalization
Committee, Cashin Associates, and Town Board member George Penny, and other
members of the Board, who have been working towards a resolve of this, finally
we hope LRPW will at one point be benifical, we hope to the plan for many years
to come, to this town for many years to come, and we certainly are doing all
we can right now to finalize this document, considering the magnitude, because
in one way it actually is a mini Master Plan for the waterfront for the Town
of Southold.
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14.-Moved by Justice Edwards, seconded by Councilman Hussie, it was
RESOLVED that the Town t3oard of the Town of Southoid hereby reappoints
Kenneth L. Edwards a member of the Southold Town Planninct Board, effective
April 30, 1992 through April 30, 1997.
JUSTICE EDWARDS: Before we vote I want to put some comments in here. When
Kenny was first appointed,I was chastised by the Supervisor at the time, for
voting for a first cousin to put him on the Board, but 1 told the Supervisor
at that time, that Kenny would have been the popular choice on Fishers Island.
I can honestly say, that Kenny has more than fulfulled his duties flying back
and forth from Fishers, sitting on the Town Planning Board. The only meetings,
that has missed, is the times that Mr. Orlowski has told him not to come over,
because of Budget constraints, or because of weather. I think that you can
directly show that Kenny has been very, very active in participation on the
Southold Town Planning Board. I offer this resolution. Thank you.
14.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: I'd also like to comment that Ken has been a very
valuable member of the Planning Board, and very diligent in his attendance.
At times, it's not easy to come from Fishers Island with the weather restrictions,
that are imposed, but Ken seems to always make his way over here, and miss
as the Judge has said very few meetings, and the Town is extremely pleased
with the performance of Mr. Edwards in his many years of being on- this Board.
We wish him many, many years of success in the years to come, because this
is what the Town needs are people who are dedicated to the long term future
planning of the Town of Southold, of which Fishers Island certainly is no
stranger to long term planning, considering some of the documents that they
have in place over there, Judge.
15.-Moved by Councilwoman Lizewski, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes
Data Control Supervisor Jeanne Ruland, ZBA Secretary Linda Kowalski, Planner
Melissa Sp~ro, and Clerk Typist Georgia Rudder to attend a meeting at Triangle
Consulting 'n Woodbury, New York, on April 9, 1992, at 9:30 A.M., to view
possible enhancements to the Town's Parcel software (already imolemented for
the Village of Westbury), and discuss the task of interfacing said Parcel System
to the Assessor's Real Property System; a Town vehicle is authorized for
transportation.
15.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
16.-Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Tdwn Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the
refund of $1,500.00 to Mattituck Airbase, Inc., which sum represents the
$1,000.00 filing fee for their change of zone petition, which they have withdrawn,
and the $500,00 SEQRA reimbursement fee for the envrionmental review by
Cramer, Voorhis & Associates, which was never initiated on the Town behalf.
16.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: I might add, that this amount is being refunded in
totality. There have been no administrative costs associated with this application,
and so we can refund the whole amount. In many instances where administrative
costs are definitely in place, so the towr~ has had to structure the refund based
on the amount of hours, that the staff have put in with a petition change such
as this, but in this case no action had ever been taken, so we're glad to refund
the total amount.
17.-Moved by Councilman Lizewski, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby adjusts the
term of Board of Assessment Review member Samuel G. Markel to expire on
September 30, 1993, all in accordance with the requirements of the New York
State Division of Equaltization and Assessment which requires that the term
of each member of the Board of Assessment Review expire in a different year.
17.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: I'd like to at this time, have our Town Clerk explain
to the members of the audience. We had to adiust the term of this inc~ividuai
based on a State requirement, and Judymaybecan take a couple of minutes iust
to explain why we had to do this.
TOWN CLERK TERRY: Some years ago, the terms expired in different months
of the year, and a few years ago, the New York State Division of Equalization
and Assessment said that all terms must expire on September 30th, as well as
each of the five members terms must expire in different years. We had already
had their terms in place, and it turned out that we h~d two people expiring
in the same year, so under their rules and regulations we had to adjust one
term. Now, we are in total compliance with the State regulations.
18.-Moved by Justice Edwards, seconded by Superwsor Harris,
WHEREAS, there has been presented to the Town Board of the Town of Southold
a proposed Local Law entitled, "A Local Law in Relation to Water Skiing"; now,
therefore be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board hereby sets 4:30 P.M., Tuesday, April 7, 1992,
Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York, as time and place for a
public hearing on this~"oresaid proposed Local Law, which reads as follows:
A Local Law in Relation to Water Skiing
BE IT ENACTED, by the Town Board of the Town of Southold as follows:
I. Chapter 32 (Boats, Docks and Wharves) of the Code of the Town of Southold
is hereby amended as follows:
1. Section 32-35 (C) (Water-Skiers) of the Code of the Town of Southold
is hereby amended by addinc~ thereto the following subsection:
1. The following regulations shall apply only to Hay Harbor:
a. Water skiing is permitted after 5 P.M. on weekdays and
all day Saturday and Sunday unless organized waterfront
activities are planned by the Hay Harbor Club.
b. Water skiers will follow a pattern established by the
first boat to start skiing i.e. clockwise or counter
clockwise.
c. Skiers will remain a minimum of 50 feet from any dock
or shoreline.
d. Skiers and boats will come no closer to the Wilmerding
dock than a yellow float placed by Mr. Wilmerding to
mark that boundary.
II. This Local Law shall take effect upon its filing with the Secretary of State.
JUSTICE EDWARDS: Now, I'm going to comment on this. This is Hay Harbor
on Fishers Island, and with the laws that govern the Code Book now, I believe
it's within 500 feet of shore skiing is not permitted, and if that held true in
Hay Harbor, there would be only a little bit of a doughnut in the center of
the Harbor, that would be allowed to be skied upon legally. So, this has been
modified strictly for Hay Harbor on Fishers Island, and it is a very active
harbor for skiing in the evening. I offer that resolution.
18.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: I'd also like to comment a little bit. That's the leadership
of Judge Edwards. This has been ongoing now for over a year. The constituency
from Fishers Island, the Fisher Island Civic Association, and many other groups
over there have met with the Town Board during our Town Board meeting, that we
normally hold in the summer over there, and they have asked oh a number of
occassions, for us to implement this because of problems that have occurred
throughout the summer, when the population is at it's peak, and the Town Board
was ready to act on this last year, as early as last fall, however the members
of the Fishers Island Civic Association had to ask the Town Board to hold off,
until they could form another committee, which is called what, Ray?
JUSTICE EDWARDS: Hay Harbor Committee.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: Hay Harbor Committee, which could meet with the Civic
Association to come up with their final recommendations to this Local Law, so
we have be immediable to the needs of Fishers Island residents, and we're glad
to, as I said, at the leadership of Judge Edwards, who has been basically telling
the Board, and responding to the needs of the residents of Fishers Island in
keeping us informed with what's happening, as far as their meetings go. So
for that, Judge, thank you for the information.
MARCH 24, 1992
711
19.-Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and
directs Supervisor Scott L. Harris to execute a Software Agreement between
Acumen Computer Services and the Town of Southold for the purposes of
providing software for the administration of real property tax collections, as
defined in the agreement; said cost not to exceed $12,000.00; agreement all in
accordance with the approval of the Town Attorney.
19.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
20.-M0ved by Councilman lizewski, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes
Superintendent of Highways Raymond L. Jacobs and Town Attorney Harvey A.
Arnoff to travel to Albany, New York, on April 1, 1992, for a conference with
the New York State Department of Law concerning Interogatories and Combined
Discovery Demands, in the matter of the State of New York v. Town of Southold,
Spill No. 85-1219, and the necessary expenses for meals and travel shall be
a le9al charge to the Town Attorney's 1992 Budget.
20.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
21 .-Moved by Supervisor Harris, seconded by Justice Edwards,
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Southold' wishes to take practical
steps to preserve the high quality of the Town's groundwater; and
WHEREAS, the Long Island Reoi0nal Planning Board (LIRPB) has recognized
the Special Groundwater Protection Area (SGPA) comprising about 3,000 acres
along County Road 48 between Mattituck and Southotd; and
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Southold is examining, through its
Stewardsh~olnitiative, policies and possible legislation to facilitate the sale or
transfer of development rights to farmland, among other things; now, therefore,
be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby endorses the
LIRPB recommendations for the SGPA calling for (1) Suffolk County funds to
acquire open space and farmland development rights within the SGPA, (2)
continued County support for the Cornetl Cooperative Extension Services' best
management practices for agriculture, and (3) continued support for agricultural
districts and agricultural reserves, all in accordance with the LIRPB and the
Town's Stewardship Initiative; and be it further
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold will address practical
and equitable procedures aimed to minimize density of new housing development
within the SGPA, such as clustering outside the SGPA, in accordance with the
Town's proposed Stewardship Initiative.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: I might add, that there are some proposal's in this draft
of Long Island Regional Planning Board, which this Board does not wholeheartedly
endorse, however being that there are two areas, that have been designated
over the years, one being around Laurel Lake, and the second being through
the spine of Peconic, Cutchogue running along the railroad tracks. The Town
Board feels that endorsing the Planning Board, and most of it's concepts as
a draft document is the most beneficial way to preserve the groundwater
especially for the future of the Town of Southold. However, there are certain
parts when it comes to the number of acres, that should be mainl~ined atonce,
therefore restricting the farmers' rights, has most of the Board members exactly
in a tizzy exactly what their intensions were, when the~,were trying to deal with
some of these farms, and at the same time taking away the rights, that some
of these farmers have in reference, to the equity within their land. In reference
to that this Town Board recognizes the rights of our farms, the heritiage for
352 years, that this Town has endured, and as I said, generally endorses all
of the concepts within the draft Planning Board document. However, there
are certain areas of that document, that this Board is uncomfortable with, and
as time develops, and as they come to a finality with this document, we hope
that imput from Southold Town will be valuable towards the future-protection
Of these areas when it comes to long term planning in regards to public drinking
water supplies.
21.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, CoLincilman Lizewski,
Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: At this time I need a motion to recess to go into public
hearings.
Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that a recess be called at this time, 8:00 P.M., for the purpose of
holding a public hearing.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
Meeting reconve6ed-' at 8:10 P.M.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: At this time, would the Board like to ~nove on the first
public hearing of the evening, a "Local Law in Relation to Peddling and Soliciting".
22.
-Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Justice Edwards,
WHEREAS, there was presented to the Town Board of the Town of Southold
on the 10th day of March, 1992, a proposed Local Law No. 8 - 1992 entitled
"A Local Law in Relation to Peddling and Solicitng"; and
WHEREAS, a public hearing was held on the foresaid Local Law on the 24th day
of March, 1992, at which time all interested persons were given an opportunity
to be heard; now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board hereby enacts Local Law No. 8 - 1992, which
reads as follows, to wit:
A Local Law
BE IT ENACTED, by the
LOCAL LAW NO. 8 - 1992
in Relation to Peddling and Soliciting
Town Board of the Town of Southold as follows:
I. Chapter 69 (Peddling and Soliciting) of the Code of the Town of Southold
is hereby amended as follows:
1. Section 69-103(B)5 is hereby deleted in its entirety.
2.Section 69-103(B) is hereby amended to read as follows:
B. This Chapter shall not apply to any of the following:
(1) Sales conducted pursuant to statute.
(2) Sales conducted pursuant to the order by any court.
(3)Any person selling personal property at wholesale to
dealers in such articles.
(4) The sale of fruits and vegetables raised on the property
where being sold.
(5)A-n-y he~r~>ly ~Jiset~a-r~-ed mem~-t~he I~nFt~ ~
~d F~ ~ has ~~ I~se u~ A~e
(5) Persons soliciting, collecting or operating a sale on
behalf of any local bona fide charitable, religious,
patriotic or other organization of worthy cause deemed
to be in the public interest and which organization is
represented locally by a Town resident.
(6)Any person sellin9 personal property at a garage sale held
at his residence.
(7)The sale of newspapers.
(8) Any merchant havin9 an established place of business within
the Town of Southold.
I1. This Local Law whall take effect upon its filing with the Secretary of State.
* Underscore represents additions
** Overstrike represents deletions
Text which is neither underscored nor overstruck is merely included for purposes
of renumbering.
'22v-Voteofthe Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS:' Would the Board like to move on the second Local Law
of the evening, a "Local Law in Relation to Refuse and Recyclables"?
23.-Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Justice Edwards,
WHEREAS, there was presented to the Town Board of the Town of-Southold
on the 10th day of March, 1992, a proposed Local Law No. 9 - 1992 entitled,
"A Loca Law in Relation to Refuse and Recyclables"; and
WHEREAS, a public hearing was held on the aforesaid Local Law on the 24th
day of March, 1992, at which time all interested persons were given an oppor-
tunity to be heard; now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board hereby enacts Local Law No. 9 -1992, which
reads as follows, to wit:
MARCH 24, 1992
373
23.
LOCAL LAW NO. 9 - 1992
A Local Law in Relation to Refuse and Recyclables
BE IT ENACTED by the Town Board of the Town of Southold as follows:
I. Chapter 48 (Garbage, Rubbish and Refuse) of the Code of the Town of
Southold is hereby amended to read as follows:
1. Section 48-2(A) is hereby amended to read as follows:
A. No person shall collect, store, accumulate, throw, cast, deposit
or dispose of, or cause or permit to be collected, stored,
accumuJated, thrown, cast, deposited or disposed of, any
refuse and/or r~c¥cable upon any premises or upon any street,
highway, sidewalk' or public place within the Town of Southold,
except when authorized by the Town Board.
2. Section 48-5 is hereby amended to read as follows:
No person shall convey or transport refuse and/or recyclables through
the streets or public places of the Town of Southold in any cart, wagon
or vehicle or by any other means unless adequate care is taken to
prevent the spilling of refuse and/or rec¥clables in such public places
and streets.
II. This Local Law shall take effect upon its filing with the Secretary of State.
* Underscore represents additions.
-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris,
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: That finishes up, ladies and gentlemen, our regular
portion of the agenda in reference to public hearings, and resolutions. Are there
any members of the audience, that would like to speak to this Board on any
matter, that you feel would be of particular interest to us, now is the time.
Come forward, please, and state your name.
JOHANNA NORTHAM: My name is Johanna Northam. I just want to about the
Special Groundwater Protection Area. I had received from a group of people
who are attached to the Suffolk County Groundwater Protection Area. There
were problems with a lot of group homes. However with the Southold Ground-
water Protection, they were very pleased. As you know, there is a Federal Law,
Groundwater Protection. There is Federal Law designating Long Island sole source
of aquafilter. So, we have all these experts, that have told us that we should
protect. We have the Long Island Regional Planning Board with their experts
telling us this area should be protected. It was brought up at the work session,
that there's concern. We're talking about specific areas, and there is concern,
I think, about farmers
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: Rights of the owners of the properties.
JOHANNA NORTHAM:Do"the owners understand the Jaw, that are on the books,
the Federal laws about designating sole source of aqua, and wh~/?'· I mean,
is it the Board's decision because they feel the farmers would be unhappy with
this, or is it because that you feel that..this has come up in the past, I think
it was ten acre zoning, that came up a few years ago, and now we're talking
about five acre zoning. We're talking about a spine, that..you know, I come
from Nassau County, and Alice comes from Nassau County, and we black topped
Nassau County, and we have ibrobl'ems. Today I walked through Brecknock area,
which we're going to lose probably, because it's going ap; fb~r auction. We have
problems with Dam Pond. We have problems with Corchaug. He're we have all
the experts. I'm not saying you're not experts, but we have all these experts.
We have all these laws coming from the Federal, State, telling us that recharge
areas should be protected, and the feeling that I get is, that, well, the farmers
will be upset about this, and what I guess I'm asking, I'm a bit naive about
farmers here, that they would be unhappy, that they would not want to protect
this area. Is it, because they're not knowledgable about these laws, that
designate the sole source aquifer? They're not knowledgable about the spine
(tape change)
COUNCILMAN LIZEWSKI:~ I think the farmers are knowledgable of.what they
have. I've met with the Farm Bureau, and a lot of the local farmers being on
the Groundwater Committee, and being the head of it, and they are knowledgable
about the spine. We have a local Groundwater Committee. We deal with the
Suffolk County Water Authority, the Fire Departments.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: Councilman Lizewski, by the way, Johanna, is Chairman
of the Groundwater Resources standing committee of the Town Board, so he's
been meeting on a weekly basis with all these groups in reference to public
water, and future water for Southold.
COUNCILMAN LIZEWSKI: We quickly got in place this year the possibility of
purchasing over 150 acres around Laurel Lake, which will preserve water for
a long period of time, and we're worried about the water spine in Cutchogue.
There's supposed to be a couple of loops, basically the way the Water Authority
would like to do it, and preserve that water. We feel that there's a lot of
things, that are already in place in our town. I mean if you come to these
meetings of the areas, that we have put in place for affordable housing, you
can see how you can cluster pieces of land, and preserve other pieces of land,
and the Planning Board, fortunately for us, has people like Mark McDonald on
it, who is very concerned about the water, and Bob Villa is on my committee.
These people are very knowledgable. He was head of the Public Health
Department, and-'really great to be aligned with, as far as preserving the water
on the North Fork, and they have worked very hard. For instance, in the
Laurel Lake area, a lot of the land, that is to be purchased has been kept on
hold almost, until we can get this money from the County to purchase it, and
the plans for the development along the spine will be handled, a lot of it,
clustering, and things that can be done to it, so the farmer will not be hurt.
The thing that I object to is mandating to this farmer, that he only has..if he
has one hundred acre, he only twenty lots, five acre lots, okay? Years ago,
and I came from a farm family, a farmer was told he had 100 acres, he had
half acre lots. At that time he had fifty half acre lots. That's wonderful. We
went to one acre lots, and the farmer says; gee whiz, I lost a lot of money.
I could have had fifty half acre lots. Now I can only have one acre lots..
now I can only have one acre lots, 200 half acre lots, now I can only have one
acres. Then we went to two acre zoning. Now I can only have 50 lots, so we
decreased everything that he was always told, and he continued to fall, and he
kept on losing, and losing, and losing. We want to preserve the farmland. We
want to preserve the water spine, but to transfer development riqhts, and the
way that things can be zoned out of it, not that he loses the val~Je to his five
acre zoning. In other words, the five acre zoning I object to personally,
because I think we can do him with two acre zoning, give him what is his due
for that piece of land under present system, that we have, with transfer
development rights, or clustering part of his land outside of that water spine,
so he gets more development in that area, and leave that spine alone. But, 1
don't think that the full answer is to just take and zone that whole thing five
acres, when we have a method of, maybe some of these farms, some of these
farms are half in, and half out, so there are methods of doing this without
jumping up, and saying, we have to give five acre zoning to this area. We want
to preserve that area just as much as anybody does. It's just a method in which
we intend to do it, and the fact that i don't want to devalue what these people
have been told for the last thirty years. You know, they went from half acre,
to one acre, to two acre. Now they're being told, wait a minute, we don't want
you do even two acre. We want you to do five acre. We want the preservation
of the land, but without taking away his value. Once again, which has been
done to him for the beginning of time. This poor farmer, who everybody wants
to keep here, has been beaten to death by everybody who wants what he has
under his land, or everybody who wants to look at his land, and I think that
his rights have a very important place in this town..
JOHANNA NORTHAM: Tom Wickham explained it at the work session, and what
he explained to me this morning, to us, made sense, and it seems if there was
a negative. . they felt no, no, they didn't want to go on. You wouldn't even
propose, or consider Tom Wickham's proposal? We have all the tools, and the
maping.
COUNCILMAN LIZEWSKI: They 'have the maping, but they don't live here.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: Johanna, by the way, this resolution that we adopted
tonight was written by Tom Wickham. He wrote this in conjunction with the
Board, and this is his resolution 'n it's totality. Councilwoman Hussie would
also like to address this.
MARCH 2~, 1992 3 7'5
COUNCILWOMAN HUSSIE': Your question is, obviously, the disparity between
the Long Island Planning Board's resolution, and the resolution that we did.
While we do concur that the land has to be saved, and the water has to be
protected, the spine, we did not think that we wanted to give that authority
to somebody outside the town. We might wind up doing exactly the same th'lng,
but we would like to have that prerogative be ours.
JOHANNA NORTHAM: Then what you're saying to me is that even though the
Federal law talked about designating sole source of aquafers, that the Long Island
Regional Planning Board, who are really experts, maybe you'll look into their
recommendation, but you feel that, as a Councilperson for Southold, that you
should have final decision.
COUNCILWOMAN HUSSIE: The decision should really be here, and it might
eventually concur with both the Federal and the County.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: There is a legal aspect to this, also, at this time, and
I think Harvey Arnoff, the Town Attorney, would like to address that.
TOWN ATTORNEY ARNOFF: There's one thing, that troubled me, and we discussed
it, and I don't know if you were present for the discussion today, but the Board
is inclined, and I think that implicit in what this resolution was to imbide the
determination, and recommendations of the Stewardpship Initiative, and we feel,
and I think that the matter that's presented by this resolution, including the
five acres, etc., will be matters that are discussed, and recommendations brought
to this Board from this Initiative, and the Board will then be in a better position
to make an informed decision. I think their decision here today is certainly well
advised. I think it certainly comports with anything that we should be doing
at-this time, especially since we have undertaken this really important task, and
that's the Stewardship Initiative, which ygu know that Mr. Wickham has been
very active.
JOHANNA NORTHAM: I disagree with you. I feel we can't use the Stewardship
Initiative as a ploy.
TOWN ATTORNEY ARNOFF: I don't think that is what is happening.
JOHANNA NORTHAM: Get a Task Force together, and there are issues, whether
it's a Code change for stopping fast-food restaurants, or a dock being very
important zoning laws to protect groundwater. We have the information. We
have the expertise in front of us, but should say, well, we have a US/UK Study
coming up, so let's wait. I feel that we have expertise. We have laws on the
books, which probably would be enforceable, if we designate, and we could show
them the spine, that should be protected. I'm really surprised that on that,
we didn't jump on that, because being from Nassau County, and seeing what
happened, this is no slap in anybody's face here, because of what happened
with local Board is that they did reject the State, and Federal recommendations.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: I don't think, again, that this finalized. I don't think
that this Board is moving in any direction, not to preserve the future water
supply for this Town. There are a number of studies, that have been done,
as you well know, the 208 Study, the '86 update from that. There have been
well water studies probably done on this island, and probably anywhere else
in the country, and I don't think anybody knows water as well as these people,
who have condoned these studies, or have been involved in these studies,
including Lee Koppleman, who heads the Long Island Regional Planning Board,
who we work very closely with. We are trying to work in an area right now,
in the hamlet studies. The reason why we're conducting hamlet studies in
reference to the planners, that came over here from the United Kingdom, in
conjunction with the United States, the reason why we're having hamlet studies
is to find out exactly what the residents in each of those hamlets think or
realize is needed for the future planning for $outhold. Much of that is precedent
upon public water, or water as a whole. I think anybody that you would talk
to would tell you that the amount of water, the quality of water, has never been
a concern in Southold Town. There's more water here than we'll need for many,
many, I'll say, centuries to come. It's the quality, not the quantity of water,
is what we're trying to preserve, and that quality is why we had these two areas
designated. As Dr. Lizewski mentioned, Bob Villa, and others, were very
instrumental in getting that designation in Southold Town, which provided funding
under the quarter percent sales tax to purchase properties within those spine
designated footprints for their preservation. But in absence this year of the
'92 monies, because the Legislature, and the County Executive Pat Halpin, the
former County Executive, did away with funding for the municipalities unc~er
the quarter percent sales tax monies for the year 1992. We have been left in
a position now, where we're going to have to move to try to preserve these
areas n other ways, inventive ways, such as the Pecomc Land Trust, who as
Joe mentioned earlier, has been involved now with'157 acres around Laurel Lake
towards the total preservation, working with developers up there, so they can
preserve as much of the area as is needed for public water supply. There have
been many studies done. The Suffolk County Water Authority probably has the
best mapping of our water in Southold, anywhere available with their computeriza-
tion that exists, and their areas that they need for public water for the future
and predesignated sites, that they're going to need for public water, well fields,
that they'll need, and with those areas we recognize that part of the water study,
that we're doing right now, is to basically tell the Water Authority, and put a
policy in place, which Joe's committee is working on, exactly how much of this
3,000 acres is needed to be preserved. [ think anybody will recognize that you
don't have preserve all 3,000 acres. What we have to preserve is a portion of
that area. That is probably the most sensitive area, the one that has the deepest
area as far as the water goes, with the dome for public water supply for the
future to run into areas that are marginal rir3ht now. This Board has been
committed to that every since it's inception, as have other Boards have in the
past, so I don~t want you to ever think that this Town is ever moving in a
direction away from the future water supplies, and SPGA's. This Board has
worked very hard to maintain those, and to get funding for purchases, but
because of the economic times, we have to be sure that if the preasure is turned
on, again, once the soft market disappears, that this Town's prepared for the
influx, and the residences that could come, and in order to prepare for that
we have to have to have public water supplies, and those public water supplies,
especially we're talking about affordable housing within a half mile of the hamlet
centers, such~as the Master Plan right now requires. These well fields are
going to have to be in these SPGA's, either owned by the Water Authority,
or owned by other individuals, maybe owned by the Town of Southold, but
how much has not been determined, and we don't want to put the cart before
the horse, and say that everything in these area needs to be totally preserved,
because that may not be true, and I don't think there are enough experts out
there, that can say, yes, this is how much water you're going to need, because
nobody does have that answer right now. We're looking for those answers,
and that's why we're moving slowly in this direction, b~t by no means are we
precluding that SPGA's aren't a valuable._ tool for the future of Southold,
because they definitely are, and we're doing all we can to enhance those areas
to protect them through many ways such as you heard this morning in the Work
Session, through ways that you heard Joe mention, such as transfer development
rights, which is not in place in this town, but which may be a good tool, the
cluster concept would certainly recognizes now, that clustering right now, any
area over ten acres in mandatory in the town, and if we're going to cluster,
let's cluster the areas around that spine, if the properties are in there, and
we'll put the density outside of the spine area. Those are the ways, that we're
talking about working, and still preserving the equity, and the rights of the
people who made this town great for 352 years, and that's the agricultural
community, and the same time these people we hope will continue to farm, and
we hope that they'll never sell their land, and they'll continue to provide
agriculture in the open space that's needed for this township, and we're working
in many areas, as Joe is right now, with Arthur Kuntz, and so on, to make
sure that that happens, and it continues to be a reality, such as the Stewardship
Exchange Committee. The final document, that was presented in July has
recognized, also. There were eight individuals, that came over, and said the
beauty of Southold is your open space, and your farmlands, that are inbetween
your hamlets, and your number one priority should be to try to protect that
at all costs, and that's certainly the area we're moving on, and that's why
these hamlet meetings are so important, because we want the public imput. Once
we gather this information, then we'll intelligently be able to move in the areas,
that we consider to be priority from the people who we represent. Are there
any other members that would like to make a comment? In the back, yes?
JOHN DOHT: My name is ~lohn Doht. I'm a resident of Southold Village, and
I just would like clarification, Scott, if you would, Resolution =197-1 believe
it's $12,500.00 for software for the Tax Receiver's Department. Can you tell
me at present, you're on the manual system?
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: Presently, it's totally manual. Yes.
JOHN DOHT: And when you entertain putting in this software system, would
you be reducing staff?
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SUPERVISOR HARRIS: I would say that in the future there's a good likelihood
that staff could be reduced with this computerization. Yes.
JOHN DOHT: I assume that probably in preparation of bills, because it's always
a last minute thing, that there's a lot of overtime that probably occurs.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: There's not much overtime, but there are a number
of individua s that are on a seasonal basis, that work in that office, and what
we're trying to do is bring up sort of a system, that has a lot of manual work
involved in it right now, including receipting, and so on, were it will all be
done by computer, to help speed up the time that's necessary, and we recognize,
that there will be people within that department that may be retiring in the
future. There's a good chance that with this computer software, we won't need
to replace those people because it will basically make up the need for additional
personnel to get the receipts out, to make sure the people are here for the
hours needed, when everybody has to have them in by the 31st of May, and
I don't know, Judy, do you want to add to that?
TOWN CLERK TERRY: We'd be eliminating the process with the State, and
printing our own tax bills in house. All our tax bills, and all our tax rolls
will be printed here.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: There are a lot of additional benefits. Right now the
Town of Southold has to travel to Newburg, for instance, to pick up the tax
bills, because we were on a State system, that printed the tax bills for us.
Next year, we're going to print those bills in house in a mailer actually, and
it will totally be generated here, and mailed out of here, which will save this
Town about $6,000 to $7,000 a year, which is what we pay now to the State
of New York to have this process done for us. This way we'll keep it in house.
Are there any other members?
JUSTICE EDWARDS: I just want to add:a few more comments. It's nice to be
back after three months. I will say, I had a very enjoyable trip. The month
that I spent in Australia was educational. I went to Town Board meetinq in
the Sire of Marong outside of Bendiqo for three different meetinqs. Got -to know
the Town Board, and the Chief Exe~:utive Officer, and the Mayo~, very well.
Spent three evenings with Rotary down there. I have some good comments for
Rotary here in Southold. I also spent a couple days at two different landfill
operations down there. They have the same problems, that we have here. They
don't have the groundwater problem, because they've got plenty of water in
Southern Australia, but all and all, it was a great trip, and l'm very glad to
be home, and the work has piled up for me, and I'm digging in. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: Welcome back. In closing, I'd just like to explain to
the audience where we are in reference to the landfill suit that the three towns
of East Hampton, Riverhead, and Southold started in December of 1990. Right
now we continue to landfill under the Court's protection. As you know, March
17th, St. Patrick's Day, we were supposed to go to court, which was decreed
by the Appellate Court, a trial, -which would test the scientific basis, as well
as the constitutionality of the Long Island Landfill Law as it applies to the East
End towns, and what has transpired, and why we're not in Court yet, or have
a tri~l underway, is sort of a lengthy process, but I'll try to put it in a
Readers Digest form if possible. About two weeks ago, on I think it was on
a Wednesday, the State of New York came into the Supreme Court of Suffolk
County, and asked that through a process know as a subt:oena process, that
Commissioner Johrling, and others, who head the DEC should not be permitted
to testify in this trial, and we said, we're following the Court's decision,
based on Judge Mary Warner's court degree, which said basically, we're doing
away with discovery which is a pretrial process, and we're going to give you
subpoena power to give you wherever you want to on the witness stand, so
following that procedure the State came in, filed papers, to tried to what's called
I think the word is, quash, I guess the title is this subpoena . So we had to
file papers, of course, showing why the Commissioner should come down here
and testify, because he's a key individual in our trial. The State did not like
the Supreme Court's decision, that, yes, he was going to be on the witness
stand testifying, so the next day they took us to the Appellate Court in Brooklyn,
and our legal firm, of Smith, Finklestein, and Isler, who are representing us,
had to go into Brooklyn the next day, and show papers why we should have
them again on the witness stand, and the Appellate Court at the same time,
said we'll make the decision, but we'll still want the trial to proceed. So, with
that, we cross-appealed, and said, Your Honors, the reason why it's important
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that you stay the trial is because this man is key to our testimony, and if you
don't render a decision, we think the trial should be stayed, which means put in
abeyance, and a day before the trial was to begin, the Appellate Court affirmed
the Towns of Southold, Riverhead, and East Hampton. I'm saying, yes, you're
absolutely right, you should stay this trial, because this is a matter that we
still have to go over with some great scrutiny, and we want you to have oral
argument in front of us on April 8th to show exactly why this individual should
not be exempted from testifying in this trial. So, that is the step we're in
right now. We expect that after that oral argument is made in Brooklyn, we
don't know what the time frame will be for the Appellate Division to render a
decision, and after that we'll have to start the process all over again, set the
subpoenas again, and wait for a trial again, and make sure all the schedulin9
is convenient with everyone in accordance, so we're sort of on a holding pattern
once, again, but still legally landfilling, and to date the three towns of East
Hampton, Riverhead, and Southold, while we continue to try to work with the
DEC towards a resolve, and it doesn't stop us from working with them, because
we have been. We've saved over $9,000,000.00 to date of taxpayers' money
to remove solid waste from our landfills, so we hope that scientifically, as we
move through the courts, that we'll be able to prove our case, and we have
some very good key witnesses, expert witnesses, on our behalf, that will be
testifying in trying to protect the economy, and obviously the tax bases of
these respective towns, and we'll just see what transpires as time goes on,
but I just wanted you to know where we were, because I know ma'ny people
don't understand the legal process. I think I'm going to write a book after
this about the trials and tribulations of landfilling on Eastern Long Island, but
besides from that, I wish everyone a nice evening, and I entertain a motion
to adjourn.
Moved by Justice Edwards, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board meeting 'be and hereby is adjourned at 8:38
P.M.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
,~ ' Judith T. Terry //~
Southold Town ClerR'