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SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD
FEBRUARY 25, 1992
WORK SESSION
Present: Councilman George L. Penny IV (Deputy Supervisor), Councilman Thomas
Wickham, Councilman Joseph J. Lizewski, Councilwoman Alice J. Hussie, Town
Attorney Harvey A. Arnoff, Assistant Town Attorney Matthew G. Kiernan, Town
Clerk Judith T. Terry. Absent: Supervisor Scott L. Harris (Federal Emergency
Management Agency conference), Justice Raymond W. Edwards (out of country).
9:45 A.M. - The Town Board met with Insurance Consultant William F. Mullen, Jr.
to discuss cancelling the Public Officials Liability insurance policy. The Town is
paying a large premium and Mr. Mullen is yet to see anything covered. Mr. Mullen
suggested self-insurance. Before making a decision Principal Account Clerk John
Cushman, also in attendance at this meeting, will check with other towns to see how
they handling this type of insurance.
10:10 A.M. - Reverend Fulford of the First Baptist Church of Cutchogue, along with
three members of the church Board, met with the Board to discuss the status of
the landfill. The church is growing and they must begin renovations before a year
is out, and are looking to increase the size of their site or find another. The Board
advised that regardless of whether the Town will continue to landfill in the future,
there will ~ertainly be an active facility there, be it a transfer station and/or
recycling complex. Reverend Fulford also expressed the concern of his congregation
and surrounding neighbors with regard to the blowing debris they must contend
with, and their concern about the drinking water supply. On those two items the
Board suggested the Revere'nd meet with Commissioner of Public Works Jacobs. With
regard to their future plans, it was suggested they begin meeting with the Planning
Board for guidance.
10:45 A.M. - Bruce Cadman, Regional Representative, General Code Publishers
Corp., met with the Board to make a presentation on his proposal for recodification
of the Southold Town Code. They would review existing laws and determine whether
they are up to date and applicable to other sections and recommend a solution to
conflicts and inconsistencies. The cost would be in the area of $27,000. Also
discussed was a Personal Computer Program, PC/CODEBOOK, which enables
municipalities to display information on-screen, quickly print sections or chapters
of interest, draft new legislation using the program's text editing capabilities, and
search for sections that contain a particular word or phrase. The cost of this
program would be $2,500 if it is done after revision, or $5,200 now. The Board
requested Mr. Cadman to submit a written proposal on all aspects of his
presentation.
11:40 A.M. Charles Voorhis, Cramerr Voorhis & Associates, the Town's
environmental consultant on the Jem Realty change of zone .petition, met with the
Town Board to elicit direction for the preparation of the Findings Statement under
the SEQRA process.
12:45 P.M. For Discussion Items: (1) Proposed "Local Law in Relation to
Appointment to Committees" (see resolution no. 29). (2) Request from Gail Berkes
Starkie, resident of Tarpon Drive, Southold, for installation of a fire hydrant in
the area of the seven residences on that road. Town Attorney Arnoff will research
the manner in which a fire hydrant is installed through the East-West Fire Protection
District agreement with the Village of Greenport, and the Fire Hydrant agreement,
also with Greenport. (3) Policy. with respect to compensation of Town employees
who are m~mbers of committees. .Further research is required and this item will be
placed on the March 10th work session agenda for discussion. (4) Request from
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Electrical Inspection Service Inc., East Patchogue, for appointment as an Electrical
Inspector for the Town of Southold. Assistant Town Attorney Kiernan will contact
this firm for proof of New York State icensing, and their ability to provided a five.
million dollar certificate of insurance covering the Town of Southold as a named
insured. (5) Discussed the current charge to holders of the Southold Town Code
for annual supplementation, and found the charge to be adequate. (6) Letter from
John F. McFeely asking the Board to grant him relief from the fees involved with
the removal of wrecked cabins from his property in Laurel. Mr. McFeely donates
the use of his house on the property to HUGS. Although l~he Town Board is
grateful for his charitable donation, and sympathetic to the finance problem
involved, the appropriation of funds, or exemption of fees would' set a precedent
the Town could not afford to consider. (7) Letter from Cameron Engineer; P.C.
asking if the Town Board is still interested in exploring the feasibility of a Marine
Vessel Pump-out Facility to be located at the Scavenger Waste Treatment Plant.
They will be asked to make a presentation of this subject at an up-coming Town
Board work session. (8) Proposal from Cameron Engineering, P.C. to provide
Construction Phase Engineering services for the improvements to the Scavenger
Waste Treatment Facility (see resolution no. 35). (9)- Repo'rt by Councilman
Wickham on the Landfill closure and Solid Waste Conference he attended the prior
week at the Association of Towns in New York. Councilwoman Hussie will bring his
report before the Solid Waste Management Task Force. (10) Memorandum from
.Councilman WiCkham concerning Governor Cumomo's proposal to repeal Wick's Law,
which is accomplished would save the Southold Town taxpayers a considerable amount
of money. He would like to see a resolution pressing the State Legislature to repeal
the law at this time. Town Attorney Arn0ff will prepare the resolution of the March
10th Town Board meeting. (11) Code enforcement on recycling - will be worked on
Councilwoman Hussie and Town Attorney Arnoff. (12) Proposal by Councilwoman
Hussie to reduce the prices of certain 350th Anniversary memorabilia (see resolution
no. 31). (13) Suggestion from Councilwoman Hussie to advertise in only 'one local
newspaper, which would result in a savings or approximately $8,500 per year. Town
Attorney Arnoff will research the legal requirements. (14) Proposal for a
Recreation Department policy by Councilwoman Hussie which will be submitted to the
Recreation Committee for fine tuning and discussed again on March 10th. (15)
Proposal by CouncilwOman Hussie for a Local Law to allow Southold residents priority
on Civil Service Lists. Town Attorney Arnoff will prepare a local law after
researching the practices of other towns. (16) Letter from Venetia McKeighan,
Director of Human Services, advising the Board that funds are not available from
her grant for the Expanded In-Home Services to the Elderly Program for February
and March. Funding will begin again on April 1st. The Board agreed to fund those
months, and will ask that she work closely with Principal Account Clerk Cushman
with respect to the expenditures. (7) Request from Margot W. Booth, Micanopy,
Florida, for a copy of the Town of Southold Local Waterfront Revitalization Plan.
Ms. Booth will be advised that it is a draft document that is not ready for public
distribution as there are several areas that must be revised and meetings will soon
be held with the Town's consultant, Cashin Associates, to address those revisions.
It will be suggested that she contact the' Village of Greenport for their plan which
the Board believes has been finalized and accepted by the State of New York. (18)
Proposed Local Law in Relation to Deputization of Electrical Inspectors" (see
resolution no. 32). (19) Letter from Recreation Supervisor Reeves transmitting
a request of Laura Carlisle, Baton Twirling instructor, for an increase of her per,
class fee, and additional funds for attending parades and events, as well as an
extension of the program from March 12th to July 4th. The Board agreed only to
the extension of the agreement to July 4th (see resolution no. 33).
2:50 P.M. - Town Board reviewed the resolutions to be voted upon at the 4:00 P.M.
Regular Meeting.
EXECUTIVE SESSION
3:05 P.M. - On motion of Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Councilman Wickham,
it was Resolved to enter into Executive Session. Vote of the Board: Ayes:
Councilman Penny, Councilman Wickham, Councilman Lizewski, Councilwoman Hussie.
Also present: Town Attorney Arnoff, Assistant Town Attorney Kiernan, Town Clerk
Terry.--The Town Board discussed possible purchase of property and litigation.
'3:50 P.M. -~ Work Session adjourned
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REGULAR MEETING
A Regular Meeting of the Southold Town Board was held Tuesday, February
26, 1992, at the Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York. Deputy
Supervisor Penny opened the meeting at 4:00 P.M., with the Pledge of 'Allegiance
to the Flag.
Present:
Absent:
Deputy Supervisor George L. Penny IV
Councilman Thomas H. Wickham
Councilman Joseph J. Lizewski
Councilwoman Alice J. Hussie
Town Clerk Judith T. Terry
Town Attorney Harvey A. Arnoff
Supervisor Scott L. Harris (out of town)
Justice Raymond W. Edwards (out of town)
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR PENNY: Good afternoon. I'd like to welcome you all to
the Southold Town Hall, and to our meeting this afternoon. I'm the Deputy Super-
visor, George Penny. l'm filling in for Scott Harris, who's away at a FEMA
seminar. He will be back later on in the week. We need an approval of the
audit of bills of February 25, 1992.
Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Councilman Wickham, it was
RESOLVED that the following audited bills be and hereby ordered paid: General
Fund Whole Town bills in the amount of $244,474.47; General Fund Part Town
bills in the amount of $125,345.90; Nutrition Fund bills in the amount of $4,802.83;
Adult Day Care bills in the amount of $100.00f Home Aide Program bills in the
amount of s210.00; SNAP Program bills in the amount of $720.21; Highway Fund
Whole Town bills in the amount of $32,137.31; Highway Fund Part Town bills
in the amount of $25..587.95; Land Acquisition Capital Fund bills in the amount
of $144,606.85; Computer Capital Account bills in the amount of S9,681.00;
Scavenger Waste Facility bills in the amount of $1,100.00; Employee Health Benefit
Plan bills in the amount of $52,765.38; Fishers Island Ferry District bills in the
amount of $15,757.37; Southold Wastewater District bills in the amount of $855.50;
Fishers Island Sewer District bills in the amount of $150.00; Southold Agency
& Trust bills in the amount of $6,630.38; Fishers Island Agency & Trust bills
in the amount of s464.49.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR PENNY: We need an approval of the minutes of the February
4, 1992 Town Board meeting.
Moved by Councilman Lizewski, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was
RESOLVED that the minutes of the Town Board Meeting of February 4, 1992,
be and hereby approved.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR PENNY: We need a 'resolution setting the next Town Board
meeting, March 10, 1992, at 4:00 o'clock P.M.
Moved by Councilman Wickham, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was
RESOLVED that the next meeting of the Southold Town Board will be held at
4:00 P.M., Tuesday, March 10, 1992, at the Southold Town Hall, Southold, New
York.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
I. REPORTS.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR PENNY: We have a number of reports on file. They are
in the Office of the Town Clerk for anybody's information.
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1. Scavenger Waste Treatment Facility Monthly Report for January, 1992.
2. Southold Town Justice Edwards Report for January, 1992.
3. Southold Town Justice Tedeschi Monthly Report for January, 1992.
4. Mark L. Rollin's Vending Machine Report for January, 1992.
5. Lawrence Healthcare CSEA Benefit Report for January, 1992.
6. Lawrence Healthcare PBA Benefit Report for January, 1992.
7. Community Development Monthly Report for January, 1992.
8. Community Development Monthly Report for December, 1991.
9. Southold Town Police Department Reports for December, 1992.
10. Second Annual Report, Employees Assitance Program Lighthouse
Counseling Center.
11. Councilmen's Report.
12. Supervisor's Report.
II. PUBLIC NOTICES.
1. Corp of Army Engineers, New York District, Notice of Application of
Joseph Friedman to construct pier, install ramp, floats and piles in James Creek,
Great Peconic Bay, Mattituck, New York. Comments until March 5, 1~92.
2. Corp of Army Engineers, New York District, Notice of Application of
Jo¥ce Laskin-Beckenstein to install float and pile in'Mattituck Creek, Town of
Southotd, New York.
3. New York State Department of Environmental Conservation, Notice of
Complete Application of Antone P. Sepenoski, Jr., to construct a well to supple-
ment two existing wells on property located on Main Road, Orient, New York,
for the purpose of farm irrigation only. Comments submitted in writing no later
than March 5, 1992.
4. Brookhaven National Laboratory Superfund Site OU iV RI/FS Work Plan
and SWMU Classification Report will be available for public review and comment
until March 17, 1992 at Brookhaven National Laboratory, Research Library,
Building 477A, Upon, New York.
III. COMMUNICATIONS. None.
D.E,PUTY SUPERVISOR PENNY: There are no communications.
IV. PUBLIC HEARINGS. None.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR PENNY: There are no public hearings set for this afternoon.
V. RESOLUTIONS.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR PENNY: We're about to go into resolutions, and I would
remind the audience, that we have a policy at scheduled Town Board meetings.
The public will be allowed five minutes to address the Town Board in relation
to the agenda resolutions prior to their enactment. The public will also be given
time at the conclusion of the regularly scheduled business agenda to adcress
the Town Board on any topic. We have thirty-five resolutions on our agenda
to deal with this afternoon. Would anybody from the audience care to comment
on the resolutions? If so, come up to the mike, and identify yourself, please,
so that we can have it for the record. This is being taped.
BOB PFLUGER: Bob Pfluger, B.P. Wreckers, Southold. 1 just had some questions
on the acceptance on the bid of Harbour Excavation for supplying the Town with
soil. I just to know that myself, and Mike here from Rapid Recycling, made
a proposal to the Town for supplying ten thousand cubic yards of recyclable
material, and also being able to deliver that to the Town, and paying the Town
$1.00 per cubic yard for accepting the material, as cover for the landfill. The
Reverend from the Baptist Church in Cutchogue, early this morning at the Work
Session stopped by, and he was complaining also about the unsightly papers,
and stuff, that was scattered all over the yard, on the neighbors, and everything,
and you yourself, Mr. Penny, mentioned that the reason for that is the Town
is short on cover material, and you can't cover the garbage as fast as they'd
like to, because it's very expensive to buy this fill. I would iust like to let
the public know about this material, that is okayed by the DEC, and I'd just
like to know if you people are going to work on it.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR PENNY: We looked into this, Bob, and we have discussed
this thoughly with the Superintendent of Highways. We have been informed that
althought this material has been technically approved by the DEC, that there
have been trouble in neighboring towns, that have accepted delivery of this,
and the testing has been demanded from the DEC on site, so that although it
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may seem at one point, that we're getting something for nothing, or getting paid
to take something, because this is the result of construction debris, and the
screenings that are developed at recycling centers, this material still is subject
to testing at the discretion of the DEC. We have directed our Task Force to
follow up on this, so that very possibly at the next time, that the bids go around,
if we can get further approval from the DEC, that they will allow this material
to pass without any further testing, that we can consider this for the next time
we go around. But, this was iust brought to our attention, and the fact that
neighboring towns, and I can't mention them by name, but we understand that
neighboring towns have been put in this position by the DEC, and the testing
for this material once required on site, would be borne by the Town of Sol,tho!d,
and the testing is very expensive.
BOB PFLUGER: It may be very expensive, but it's also saving the Town a lot
of money.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR PENNY: We're going to look into this for the next time
around. This will be an ongoing program, as you well know, covering debris
at the Landfill is an ongoing thing, but we don't want to take something that
looks like it's going to be free for nothing, and if it's going to be contaminated,
it's going to cost the Town of Southold. We wouldn't be able to put it in our
own Landfill to boot, so we're trying to cover all of our bases. We appreciate
the fact, that there is a considerable cost savings, and we're going to look into
this for the future.
ROD ~FUR. LIZZI: I'm Rod Turlizzi from Rapid Recycling. I .think the question,
that the DEC has about the legitimacy of use of this material, and the problem
that you referred to at other towns, are related to the so called sulfur dioxide
gas that's released when sheetrock decomposes. However, that information has
never been substantiated in any way. There never has been any tests that have
been done that show this to be true, and as far as really any scientific evidence
goes this is merely a rumor, and I think that's what you're refer;ring to, as far
as the problems that other towns have had.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR PENNY: It was no rumor that other towns were forced
to pay high costs to have this material tested.
ROD TRILLIZZI: I've never heard of it being tested.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR PENNY: That's the information that we looked over today.
We're trying to give you the information, not to cause an arguement.
MIKE TRILLIZZI: We're not trying to cause an argument. My name is Mike
Trillizzi from Rapid Recycling, and I've never seen the material tested the way
you're talking about. We run tests on it 'every month.
ROD TRILLIZZI: In what way does it have to be tested, sir?
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR PENNY: I do not have that information. This was brought
to our attention by the Superintendent of Highways today.
MIKE TRILLIZZI: I don't think the Superintendent of Highways knows what he's
talking about. We have the material tested once a month for the Town of Brookhaven.
We have a letter from the State of New York saying that the material was good
to use as cover material. We have samples of the material. Because the Highway
Superintendent says about the material..even he may not like it. I don't know.
Maybe he has his own axe to grind.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR PENNY: I would not like to-get into this at this time.
If you would care to talk to our Town Attorney at the end of this meeting, he'll
be very happy to set up a meeting with you.
MIKE TRILLIZZI: That would be fine.
ROD TRILLIZZI: I just want to point out to the people, that the testing you're
talking about is..we do that testing on a regular basis. It's a test to see how
much metal particles are in the material, and it's called a repe~toxictt¥ t-e-sl~, and
this is necessary for all wastes. It's not just for this particular type of material,
and this is not an unusual thing that happens. I feel that the problems you're
referring to, and the other towns have had, are not a result of use of this
material, but more a result of inadequate gas, and leach management systems.
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DEPUTY SUPERVISOR PENNY: I'm sure we're going to get to the bottom of this,
and this is why we have treated this seriously, and we have addressed this to
our Solid Waste Task Force to check into further, so we can get to the bottom
of all this.
ROD TR1LLIZZI: When do you expect..?
COUNCILWOMAN HUSSIE: We'll be taking care of that probably in two weeks. It's
a very tempting offer. When I read that I thought, how marvelous to be paid
foF,something, rather than have to pay. However, this question of the testing
did come up, and rather than be precipitous, we would like the opportunity,
please, to investigate it just a little further.
ROD TRILLIZZI: What type of testing?
COUNCILWOMAN HUSSIE: I really don't know. That's what we have to look
into.
ROD TRILLIZZI: Okay. The testing that we do is very expensive, and we will
provide you with the test results.
COUNCILWOMAN HUSSIE: Fine. We'll be in touch.
TOWN ATTORNEY ARNOFF: Do you fellows have with you any of the test results?
ROD TRILLIZZI: Yes.
TOWN ATTORNEY ARNOFF: If you could, at the conclusion to the meeting,
either give me a copy of them, or let me have a copy of them, so that we can
review them. I'd appreciate it.
TOWN CLERK TERRY: Didn't you submit test results with your hid? I have
them in the file.
ROD TRILLIZZI: No.
TOWN CLERK TERRY: No? You gave me some sort of.. It may have been the
other. There was one other bidder that said the same thing.
ROD TRILLIZZI: I just want the people to know that this is something that's
going to Sayville, bringing revenues into the town, $50,000.00 every three
months. It's not something that's completely insignificant, and it's not something
that we can sweep under the rug, and that means tax dollars.
COUNCILWOMAN HUSSIE: As I said before, it really looks good, but we really
can't just jump to a conclusion, and would appreciate any results, and also,
your name and phone number, at the end of the meeting, perhaps?
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR PENNY: It would be my suggestion at this time, that
we hold this resolution for two weeks, and see if something can be resolved.
I think what we're looking for is the DEC to tell us, that once this is through
your testing program, that they're are not going to come, and require further
remediation, and testing, and remediation from us.
ROD TRILLIZZI: I spoke to Ms. Genesis at the DEC two weeks ago, and she
was goin9 to give me a letter for the Town of Southold, but then I spoke to
her a week. later, and she said she wouldn't, and she couldn't, because the State
was in court with the Town. So, that's why I can't get a letter. I could give
you a letter from the DEC to the Town of Brookhaven.
TOWN ATTORNEY ARNOFF: Well, that certainly would be helpful. That would
certainly, if nothin9 else it would 9ive us some guidance as to the type of materials.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR PENNY: I feel it's fair to advise you at this time, that
I don't believe you were the [ow bidder.
BOB PFLUGER: No, but we were also were the bidder that only had an e×ceptable
bid, because the other bidder did not supply a $100.00 certified check.
TOWN CLERK TERRY: And I made an announcement at that time, Bob, and you
were there, that the Town Board, and it's in the advertisement, has the right
to waive any regularity.
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BOB PFLUGER: Absolutely. Therfore, if they go with that bid, we can propose
another bid.
TOWN CLERK TERRY: It didn't effect the bid itself.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR PENNY: We will deliberate this, and we will handle it
accordingly. Thank you for bringing it to our attention.
ROD TRILLIZZI: There's one thing the people ought to know, is that you tell
us that you're going to make a decision after the DEC sends you a letter saying
approving, however we talking with higher ups in the DEC making those decisions,
and they said they would not issue the Town of Southold a letter.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR PENNY: The Town of Southold will have to deal on the
information it is given.
ROD TRILLIZZI: They won't issue a letter, because of the problems.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR PENNY: We can only deal with the information, which
we're given. We haven't balanced the risk, that we're takinc~ against the gain
on the other side, and that's a decision we'll have to make. Thank you for
bringing it to our attention.
ED SIEGMANN: Ed Siegmann. Do I understand then, that on resolution 14 today,
will be set aside, while you take two weeks to investigate?
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR PENNY: That is correct. Would anybody else care to
speak on any resolution? (No response.) Hearing none, we'll move the first
resolution.
1.-Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Councilman Wickham, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and
directs the Town Clerk to advertise for resumes for a temporary stenographer
for the Board of Assessment Review for the 1992 sessions, at a salary of $7.25
per hour.
1.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
2.-Moved by Councilman Lizewski, seconded by Councilman Penny, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints Henry
L. Evans as a part-time Gate Attendant at the Southold Town Landfill, effective
immediately at a salary of $6.25 per hour.
2.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
3.-Moved by Councilman Penny, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was
RESOLVED that the application of Frank Sawicki for renewal of his single family
house trailer permit, used to house farm help through the 4-H Program, which
trailer is located on the north side of Old North Road, Southold, and permit expires
on March 23, 1992, be and hereby is granted for a six (6) month period.
3.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
4.-Moved by Councilman Wickham, seconded by Councilman Penny, it was
RESOLVED that the application of Martin Sidor for renewal of his house trailer
permit, for trailer used to house trainees under the Agricultural Program of the
National 4-H, which trailer is located on the south side of Oregon Road, Mattituck,
and the permit for the same expires on March 23, 1992, be and hereby is granted
for a six (6) month period.
4.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR PENNY: Resolution #5 has been removed from the agenda,
a resolution authorizing an advance fee check to enable Recreation Supervisor
Kenneth Reeves to attend a conference.
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6.-Moved by Councilman Penny, seconded by Councilwoman Hussied, it was
RESOLVED that the application of Zdzislaw Mikolaiczyk for renewal of his s~nqle
family house trailer permit, for the trailer located on the south side of Private
Road, on the east side of Main Road, Mattituck, which permit expired on February
9, 1992, be and hereby is granted for a six (6) month period.
6.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
7.-Moved by Councilwoman Hussle, seconded by Councilman Lizewski, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby 9rants permission
to.Griswold-Terr¥-Glover American Leqion Post No. 803, Southold, to use -
Boisseau Avenue and Hobart Road, Southold, for staging areas for the annual
Suffolk County American Legion Convention parade to be held at 12:00 P.M.,
Saturday, June 13, 1992, provided they secure and file with the Town Clerk
a Certificate of Liability Insurance for at least One Million Dollars naming the
Town of Southold as an additional insured.
7.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
8.-Moved by Councilman Wickham, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie,
WHEREAS, there has been presented to the Town Board of the Town of Southold
a proposed Local Law entitled, "A Local Law in Relation to Stop Signs"; now,
therefore, be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board hereby sets 4:30 P.M., Tuesday, March 10,
1992, Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York, as time and place
for a public hearinc~ on the aforesaid proposed Local Law which reads as follows:
A Local Law in Relation to Step Signs
BE IT ENACTED by the Town Board of the Town of Southold as follows:
I. Chapter 92 (Vehicles & Traffic) of the Code of the Town of Southold is hereby
amended as follows:
1. Article III, Section 92-30 (Stop intersections with stop signs.) is
hereby amended by adding thereto the following:
Direction Location
Stop Sic~n On of Travel At Intersection With (hamlet)
Bennet Road East Middieton Road Greenport
Washington Avenue East Middleton Road Greenport
Extension
II. This Local Law shall take effect upon its filing with the Secretary of State.
8.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
9.-Moved by Councilman Penny, seconded by Councilman Lizewski, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the
bid of Bensin Contracting, Inc., Holtsville, New York, in the amount of
$17,5,690.00, for modifications to the Southold Town Scavenger Waste Treatment
Plant at Greenport, ail in accordance with the bid specifications, and the
recommendation of Cameron Engineering, P.C., the Town's engineers for the
project; and be it further
RESOLVED that Supervisor Scott L. Harris be and he hereby is authorized and
directed to execute an agreement between the Town of Southold and Bensin
Contracting, Inc. for the aforesaid modifications, said agreement subject to the
approval of the Town Attorney.
9.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
~0.-Moved by Councilman Wickham, seconded by Councilman Penny, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the
followin9 Town officials/employees to attend the 1992 Traininq School and Annual
Meetincj of the Association of Towns at New York City, on F~bruary 16-19, 1992,
and their necessary expenses for registration, room, meals and travel shall be
a legal charge against the Town of Southold in an amount not to exceed $650.00
per person: Supervisor Scott L. Harris, Confidential Secretary to the Supervisor
Ann Marie Soito, Accountant/Principal Account Clerk John Cushman, Principal
Building Inspector-Victor G. Lessard, Councilman Joseph J. Lizewski, Councilwoman
Alice J. Hussie, Justice Frederick J. Tedeschi, Justice William H. Price, Jr.,
Historian Antonia Booth, Attorney Harvey A. Arnoff, Assistant Attorney Matthew
G. Kiernan, Justice Court Clerk Christine Stulsky, Justice Court Clerk Barbara
Andrade, Councilman Thomas H. Wickham, Receiver ot Taxes George R. Sullivan,
Board of Appeals member Serge Doyen, Jr.
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COUNCILWOMAN HUSSIE: I think it's ~idiculous to endorse something, that's
already happened. I abstain.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR PENNY: We can't pay the bills.
COUNCILWOMAN HUSSlE: We can't pay the bills?
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR PENNY: The whole reason is just that the bills will be
coming in, and we authorized attendence at the meeting. It was never done
specifica~Iy by name.
COUNCILWOMAN HUSSIE: Then I guess there's nothing I can do. We have to
pay. Yes.
10.
-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
11.-Moved by Councilman Lizewski, seconded by Councilman Wickham, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Baord of the Twon of Southold hereby authorizes and
directs Supervisor Scott L. Harris to execute a Fiscal Year - 1992 Pre-Application
for Federal Assistance for design and construction of Runway 12-30 Rehabilitation,
Runway 7-25 Rehabilitation, and Apron and Access Taxiway at Elizabeth Field
Airport, Fishers Island, all in accordance with the approval of the Town's
consultants Calocerinos & Spina Engineers, P.C.
11.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
12.-Moved by. Councilman Penny, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the
bid of Sayville Ford, Bohemia, New York, for supplying the Town with seven
(7) 1992 Ford Crown Victoria Special Police-type Vehicles, at a net delivered
price at $87~,301.20 ($12,471.60 per vehicle), all in accordance with the bid
specifications.
12.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
13.-Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Councilman Penny, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby terminates their
acjreement with American Appraisal Associates, effective immediately, for Continuous
Revision Service for property control and insurance placement purposes; whereas
the Town of Southold is now equipped to handle this task in-house; said termina-
tion is in accordance with the recommendation of Insurance Consultant William
F. Mullen, Jr.
13.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR PENNY: We're going to hold Resolution #14, which is in
regard to the fill material at the landfill.
15.-Moved by Councilman Lizewski, seconded by Councilman Penny, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby engages the
services of Michael Gorman, of Gorman Associates, to conduct an appraisal of
the property of Adrian H. Courtenay Ill(Tax Map #I000-107-5-p/o 6.1, Wickham
Avenue, Mattituck, approximately 20 acres) at a fee of $650.00, all in accordance
with the recommendation of the Land Preservation Committee.
15.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
16o-Moved by Councilman Wickham, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby engages the
services of Andrew B. Stype, of Stype Brothers Real Estate, Ibc., to review
and update the following four (4) appraisals he previously conducted, at a total
fee of $1,350.00: Madeline L. Moelius (Tax Map #1000-75-2-16, Main Road, Southold,
14 acres, originally appraised on January 16, 1990), John Zuhoski, Jr. (Tax
Map #1000-83-2-13, Oregon Road, Cutchogue, approximately 38 acres, originally
appraised on August 2, 1989), Barry Berkman (Two Parcels: Tax Map #1000-94-3-3,
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Oregon Road, Mattituck, approximately 30 acres, originally appraised June 12,
1990; Tax Map #1000-95-3-3.3, Oregon Road, Mattituck, approximately 38 acres,
originally appraised June 12, 1990), Ralph Pugliese (Tax Map ~1000-97-1-p/o12.1
& #1000-85-2-p/o 1.2, Bridge Lane, Cutchogue, approximately 20 acres,
originally appraised July 28, 1988).
16.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
~7.-Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Councilman Penny, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Baord of the Town of Southold hereby accepts and
directs Supervisor Scott L. Harris to execute the Acceptance of Construction
Work By Sponsor for the Elizabeth Field, Fishers l's'l~d; Obstruction Lighting
& Removal Project, in accordance with Section 509(d) of the Airport and Airway
Improvement Act of 1982, which requires all sponsors to certify that the con-
struction work for all projects has been performed and completed in substantial
compliance with the approved Plans and Specifications; said certification is based
upon the similar certification fo the Town's engineers, Calocerines & Spina
Engineers, P.C.
17.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
18.-Moved by Councilman Lizewski, seconded by Councilman Penny, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Town of Southold hereby authorizes
the following budcjet modification to the the General Fund - Whole Town 1992
Budc~et to appropriate Park & Recreation funds for the Mattituck Boat Ramp cement:
To:
Revenues:
A2025 Special Recreation Facilities $ 826.00
Appropriations:
A7110.2 Parks, Equipment $ 826.00
18.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
9.-Moved by Councilman Penny, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was
RESOLVED that the Twon Baord of the Town of Southold hereby reassiqns the
work schedule of Diane Herbert, Clerk-Typist at the Recreation Department,
as follows: Monday and Tuesday, 8:00 A.M. to 4:00 P.M., Recreation Department,
and Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, 8:00 A.M. to 4:00 P.M., Board of Town
Trustees Office.
19.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
20.-Moved by Councilman Penny, seconded by Councilman Wickham, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold, in an effort to increase
awareness of the need for non-perishable food donations to food pantries through-
out the Town, hereby proclaims February 29, 1992 as "CAN IT DAY", and urges
residents to make donations to the "pantry" of their choice, or bring non-
perishable food donations to the Southold Town Hall.
20.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
'COUNCILMAN PENNY: I'd just like to read further. In a press release, residents
are urged to make donations to the pantry of their choice, or drop non-perishable
food donation off at the Southold Town Hall in a receptacle located in the front
vestibule. In making the annoucement the Supervisor said, I'm please to take
part in a project, which will assist our residents. February 29th will officially
be proclaimed Can It Day by the Southold Town Board on the March 25th meeting.
The Supervisor further indicated the project was prompted by a letter from
Mattituck resident Dorothy Mealy, in which she indicated her family's concern
for the food pantrys. Thank you, Dorothy, and we have responded, so hopefully
through this broadcast people will be made aware of this very worthwhile program.
21 .-Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Councilman Lizewski, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and
dii~ects Supervisor Scott L. Harris to execute the following documents with respect
to the Fishers Island - Elizabeth Field - Obstruction Lighting & Removal Project,
all in accordance with the recommendation of Calocerinos & Spina Engineers, P.C.,
the Town's engineers for the project: Project CJoseout Report showing final
amounts and dates as required by the Federal Aviation Adminstration for closeout
of the aforementioned grant, as well as final payment requests for the project.
3 2.. 1992
21.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
Councilman Lizewski,
22.-Moved by Councilman Lizewski, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and
directs the Town Clerk to advertise for bids for the purchase of two (2) Used
Dump Trucks for the Highway Department.
22.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
23.-Moved by Councilman Penny, seconded by Councilman Lizewski, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the
following budget modification to the Fishers Island Sewer District 1991 Budget
to cover anticipated needs for the remainder of 1991:
To:
SS2.1440.4 Engineer, Contractua Expenses $ 1,000.00
From:
SS2.8160.4 Refuse & Garbage, Contractual Expenses $ 1,000.00
23.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
24.-Moved by Councilman Wickham, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the
following budc~et modification to the General Fund - Whold Town 1991 Budget to
cover overdraw appropriations:
To:
A1220.4
A1355.4
A1680.4
A5182.4
From:
A1220.1
A1355.1
A1670.4
A5650.1
A5182.2
Supervisor, Contractual Expenses $ 100.00
Assessors, Contractual Expenses 400.00
Central Data Processing, Contractual Expenses 2,800.00
Street Lighting, Contractual Expenses 4,800.00
Supervisor, Personal Services $ 100.00
Assessors, Personal Services 400.00
Central Copying & Mailing, Constractual Exp. 2,800.00
Off Street Parking, Personal Services 2,400.00
Street Lighting, Equipment 2,400.00
24.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
25.-Moved by Councilman Penny, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and
directs Supervisor Scott L. Harris to execute a Decentralization Fund A~reement
between the Huntington Arts Council, Inc. and the ToWn of Southold, for a
$700.00 grant toward eight (8) weekly concerts to be held on the Southold Town
Green during the 1992 summer season, and know as the "Summer Showcase Concert
Series"; all in accordance with the approval of the Town Attorney.
25.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
26.-Moved by Councilman Lizewski, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was
RESOLVED that the Town .Board of the Town of Southold hereby requests the
New York State Department of Transportion to investigate the possibility of having
a Stop Sign painted on the pavement at the-corner of Youngs Avenue and Route
25, Southold, to ensure that cars will stop before making a right turn at that
intersection.
26.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
27.-Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Councilman Penny, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby approves a
reduced bond amount of $42,000 for the major subdivision of Chardonnay t¥oods
at Southold, all in .accordance with the recommendation of the Southold Town
Planning Board; said reduction from.the current bond of $350,000 is based upon
remaining work to be completed: installation of street lights, fire well, and proper
quantity and type of street trees~
27.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
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28.-Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Councilman Wickham, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints Mary
L. Santacroce as Secretary for the Southold Town Solid Waste Management Task
Force, effective immediately through December 31, I992, at a salary of $7.50
per hour, not to exceed five (5) hours per week in addition to her regular 35
hour work week regardless of the numbe~ of committees she serves.
28.-Vote of the Town Beard: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR PENNY: The next is a resolution setting 4:32 P.M., March
10, 1992, for a public hearing on a proposed "Local Law in Relation to Appointment
to Committees".
29.-Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Councilman Lizewski,
WHEREAS, there has been presented to the Town Board of the Town of Southold
a proposed Local Law entitled, "A Local Law in Relation to Appointment to
Committees"; now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board hereby sets 4:32 P.M., Tuesday, March I0,
1992, Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York, as time and place
for a public hearin9 on the aforesaid proposed Loca Law which reads as follows,
to wit:
A Local Law in Relation to Appointment to Committees
BE IT ENACTED, by the Town Board of the Town of Southold as follows:
I. Chapter 7 (Committees, Appointment of) of the Code of the Town of
Southold is hereby amended as follows:
I. Section 7-1 (Establishment of committees) is hereby amended to
read as follows:
a__ The Town Board, by resolution, may extablish advisory
committees for such purposes as it may deem necessary to
assist it in the performance of its duties.
b. The term "committee" shall be deemed to be a .generic
designation and shall also include any group appointed by
the Town Board as set forth in Section "a" above,
including but not limited to any advisory counsel,
commission, counsel, advisory committee, task force or any
other similar nomenclature.
2. Section 7-2 (Committee Members) is hereby amended to read as
follows:
:t'4~e Tow~n Board s4-~a4t- det-er-mi~e the numt~e~, of- members-to
~u~h ~:~mm+t-tees, -appo~ the- n~er~ t+'.~F~¢o at~d
des4-~ne-te the eha4-Pmatq -tiqet"eo4. Member-s 04 the Ptfl:yl$e,
pu4~l~ of-fieFa-ts af~d-F~ut~N: employees ~haH-4~e dk3Di-b-le -to-
serve ~s eaeml~ers o4 su~:~-~-~:n~rrrfft-tees. A4em~s~-r~ -s-ha41
serve ~i-tho'd-t eomioensation-a~d at t-he ~u~e ~-the_
a.. The Town Board shall determine the composition of such
committees, includinq the number of its members. Priority
in membership shall be first accorded to Town residan~s.
Members shall serve without compensation and at th~.
pleasure of the Town Board.
3.Section 7-3 {Duties) is hereby amended to read as follows:
la. In each instance the Town Board must designate the
purpose for the formation of the committee, its scope
and/or task and its duration.
c_. Each committee shall be accountable to the Town Board
unless otherwise directed. Minutes shall be kept durinq
each meeting and shall be filed with the Town Clerk within
fourteen (14) days of any meeting.
II, This Local Law shall take effect upon its filing with the Secretary of State.
* Overstrike represents deletions.
** Underscore represents additions.
29.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
30.-Moved by Councilman Wickham, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the
following hamlet meetings with resoect to the Southold Town Community Stewardshio
Initiative:
Cutchoc)ue and New Suffolk: Tuesday, March 3, 1992, 7:30 P.M., at the
Cutchogue School, Depot Lane, Cutchogue, New York
South~ld and Peconic: Friday, March 6, 1992, 7:30 P.M., at the Southold
School, Oaklawn Avenue, Southold, New York.
Orient and East Marion: Tuesday, March 17, 1992, 7:30 P.M., at the
Oysterponds School, Main Road, Orient, New York
Mattituck and Laurel: Tuesday, March 24, 1992, 7:30 P.M., at the
Mattituck School, Main Road, Mattituck, New York.
Greenport and Southold: Friday, March 27, 1992, 7:30 P.M., at the
Greenport School, Main Road, Greenport, New York.
Fishers Island: Saturday, March 28, 1992, 1:00 P.M., at the Fishers
Island School, Fishers Island, New York.
AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the Town Board hereby authorizes the
issuance of a Certificate of Liability Insurance to hold the Schools harmless, as
is required.
30.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR PENNY: Councilwoman Hussie has done considerable work
on resolution #31, and I'll ask her to, number one, explain it, and then offer it.
COUNCILWOMAN HUSSIE: During the 350th Celebration for Southold Town, we
had a number of items, T-shirts, mugs, various things, made for the celebration.
We do still have some, and rather than have them staying down cellar, taking
up room, and we've got money invested in them, I have asked the Board to,
please, make a resolution, that we can sell these things at a somewhat reduced
price in order to recoup the money, that we have invested in it, and that's what
this resolution is about.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR PENNY: They are substantially reduced from what they
were originally offered at, and will be collector's items.
31.-Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Councilman Penny, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the
reduction 'n prices for the following 350th Anniversary Celebration memorabilia:
Journal: $5.00 to $3.00; Mugs: S5.00 to $4.00; T-shirts: $9.00 and
$10.00 to $4.00; Children For a Future Audio Tapes: $5.12 to $4.00.
31.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR PENNY: We need a resolution to set 4:35 P.M., March
10, 1992, for a public hearing on a proposed "Local [.aw in Relation to Deputiza-
tion of Electrical Inspectors".
32.-Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Councilman Wickham,
WHEREAS, there has been presented to the Town Board of the Town of Southold
a proposed Local Law entitled, "A Local Law in Relation to Deputization of
Electrical Inspectors"; now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED that the Town Baord hereby sets 4:35 P.M., Tuesday, March 10,
1992, Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York, as time and place
for a public hearing the aforesaid proposed Local Law which reads as follows,
to wit:
A Local Law in Relation to Deputization of Electrical Inspectors
BE IT ENACTED, by the Town Board of the Town of Southold as follows:
I. Chapter 43 (Electrical Inspections) of the Code of the Town of Southold is
hereby amended as follows:
1. Section 43-2 (Designation of Inspectors) of the Code of the Town of
Southold is hereby amended to read as follows:
The Chief Inspector and each of the duly appointed inspectors of the
New York Baord of Fire Underwriters are hereby designated as Electrical
Inspectors of the Town of Southold and are authorized and deputized as
agents of the Town of Southold to make inspections and reinspections of
all electrical installations heretofore and hereafter described, and to
approve or disapprove the same. In no event, however, will the cost or
expense of such inspections and reinspections be a charge against the
Town of Southold. The Town Board may also designate, by resolution,
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the Chief Inspector and/or each of the duly appointed inspectors of
organizations other than the New York Board of Fire Underwriters as
Electrical Inspectors and authorize and deputize them as accents of the
Town of Southold to make inspections and reinspections of all electrical
installations heretofore and hereafter described, and to approve or
disapprove the same provided that said inspection organizations annually
submit proof of insurance in such form and amounts as is deemed
satisfactory by the Town Attorney, naming the Town of Southold as
a named insured.
II. This Local Law shall take effect upon its filing with the Secreatary of State.
* Underscore represents additions.
32.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR PENNY: We have a resolution to extend the time of contract
of Laura Carlisle.
COUNCILMAN LIZEWSKI: We're extending the contract, because we're going
on a quarterly basis in the Recreation Department now, and we're putting out
the positions that we have in our Town Recreation Department to bid, and this
was just sort of..we'll advertise for competition now in that area. We're going
to continue with this because it stopped tooshort for us to do so.
33.-Moved by Councilman Lizewski, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby extends the
ac~reement between the Town and Laura Cartlisle, dated November 26, 1991, whereby
Ms. Carlisle shall provide Baton Twirling instructional services on Saturdays
for Beginners from 11:45 A.M. to 11:15 A.M., Intermediates from 11:15 A.M.
to 11:45 A.M., and Advanced from 11:45 A.M. to 12:15 A.M., at a compensation
of $16.00 per hour, from the current expiration date of March 21, 1992 to July
4, 1992, all additional terms and conditions of the executed contract between
the Town and Laura Carlisle, dated November 26, 1991, shall remain unchanged.
33.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
34.-Moved by Councilman Penny, seconded bY Councilman Wickham, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes Data
Control Supervisor Jeanne Ruland and Assessment Assistant Claire Glew to attend
a demonstration of Bursting and Decollating machines for separating computer
generated perforated forms (i.e., tax bills), at Moore Co., Inc., Woodbury, New
York, on Tuesday, March 3, 1992, at 10:00 A.M., with the use of a Town vehicle
for travel, and lunch expense shall be a legal charge against the 1992 Central
Data Processing Budget.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR PENNY: This move is being made to save money in the
long run, because we're going to be doing more of this work in house.
34.-~7ote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman. Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny.
'This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
35.-Moved by Councilman Wickham, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the
proposal of Cameron Engineerinc~, P.C. for providing Construction Phase Engineer-
ing Services in connection with the Inqprovements to the Southold Scavenger Waste
Treatment Facility, at the following fees: A. Review of shop drawings, O&M
manuels, and as-built drawings; responding to Contractor's questions; and pre-
paration of a final Punch list - lump sum amount of $4,000.00; B. Attendance
at weekly construction meetings and site visits, including observation of the work
and documentation; and C. Design of corrective measures due to unforeseen
or unexpected field conditions, or changes to the Contract - to be billed monthly
in accordance with their Rate Schedule provided with their proposal, shall not
exceed $7,500.00.
35.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR PENNY: With the explanation that it's necessary to hire
a professional engineer, when you're doing a Town project, to make sure the
work is done to the specifications, and completed properly. That being the end
of our resolutions at this time, are there any Councilman that would like to give
any reports at this time?
COUNCILWOMAN HUSSIE: I seem to be doing a lot of talking this afternoon,
but there have been some questions, that various people have been given to me
concerning the attendance at the Association of Towns, and I would like to speak
for myself only. I came back. [ thought it was a very worthwhile thing to go
to, as far as I was concerned. I came back with lots of ideas, suggestions,
angles, if you like, for things to use which will be helpful to the town. I have
the names, and addresses, of various people, and agencies to pursue for further
information. The Association of Town does not only conduct these seminars,
but they're also a lobbying organization, and Southold Town's presence was felt.
We were heard by those who actually do the lobbying. It appears that almost
any town in New York State is reeling from State mandates, and this was an
opportunity to demonstrate strength, and unity, and the attendance of Mr. Cuomo,
D'Amato, Moyhihan, Jorling attest their preceptionof the organization, so I'm glad
that I went.
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: I'd like to comment briefly on the developments with
the Southold Town Stewardship Initiative. Many of you are familar with the US/UK
Stewardship Exchange. It was out here last summer. They proposed a series
of procedures, and ways, that the Town could look after it's long term planning
interests. The Town Board has adopted in principal the purpose of that report,
and we are now trying to fulfill the objectives of that reoort. Accordingly
the Board at it's last meeting on the 4th of February, created a Stewardship
Task Force of officials from Town government, and residents of the town, that
could be put together into a Task Force to give clarity and direction to this
planning effort. We're calling it the Southold Town Stewardship Initiative. As
part of that Initiative it is extremely important to get the imput of how people
in this town feel. What kind of town do we want this to he in a few more years,
ten, twenty more years? This is not something for the Planning Board or the
Town Board to decide. This is something for all of us to decide. Accordingly,
the Town Board at it's last meeting asked that individuals meetings be held in
each of the villages of the town. So, now we have the six meetings held in these
different villages, as I mentioned before, according to those particular dates.
This is your opportunity, and the opportunity of the people of the town, to give
some imput at the very beginning stage, as to how this planning process will
be carried out. We don't have the answers at this time, as to fill in all the
blanks. The whole purpose of this is a process. .It's to get imput from people,
to bring in some consultants later on, and to come up with a plan, that really
meets the Town's interests, and the Town's needs, as reflected in your wants,
and what you feel is important for the town, so I urge you all to do two things.
One, try to attend these meetings. Come with-your questions, and try to find
out what exactly is in store for you, and your communities, and in the town,
and secondly, to give some thought to possible participation on this Task Force.
We're still looking for people. There's plenty of room. The nominations will
be open until the 1st of April. I believe that one of the newspapers reported
the 20 something of February, but that will be extended until the 1st of April,
where names and resumes will be collected. What is this Stewardship Initiative
all about? We could go into it at some length at this time, and I don't want to
take a great deal of extra time, but let me just say that it coul'd be the planning
effort that will help maintain the Town of Southold with an appropriate balance
of development and business on the one hand, and preservation, and the kinds
of qualities, that we're used to in this town, on the other hand, and to maintain
that balance indefini_tely. That's what it's about. We look forward to your
attendance, and participation, and comments ~at these village meetings. Thank you.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR PENNY: At this time, is there anybody in the Town Hall,
that would like to address the Town Board on any topic? Please come up to the
microphone, and identify yourself, please. The reason for identifying yourself,
although we know a lot of you, is that this goes on tape, and it just makes the
person that transcribes everything, it makes their life a lot easier. Thank you.
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VASCO SIMIDOR: My name is Vasco Simidor, and I have a lot of questions on
this three day conference, that some of you were on, but there's only, I believe,
three or four of you sitting there out of the fifteen, that went, so I'll have to
address that situation in a different manner. The write up in the papers, there
was a distinction made 'n some of the program offerings, that you people attended,
and these that were referred to as training programs, and also, special activities,
can anyone that's sitting there, that was on the conference, give me what that
distinction is?
COUNCILWOMAN HUSSIE: I'll offer something. The special activities could probably
be the appearance of Thomas Jorling. He was not originally on the program,
but then he did come down to speak to us. We also had the speeches of Mario
Cuomo, and Al D'Amato, which were a special things. Most of the time, though,
it was training sessions, and lectures.
VASCO SIMIDOR:
COUNCILWOMAN
VASCO SIMIDOR:
Were those full day sessions, or A.M., P.M.?
HUSSIE: They were A.M., P.M.
Will there be any written reports by those participating in
the three day conference, about the number of programs attended, and ful y
participated in, and what new important specific town information is gained, as
the result by the individuals, who participated? I'd like to know, whether that's
golngtc~beattended to. I said the people who attended the conference, I'd like
a response to that.
COUNCILMAN LIZEWSKI: I'd like to respond to that. If ~,fou wanted that, I
don't think that would really be much of a problem, as far as I'm concerned,
and I think the Councilpeople, who attended. I know the two days I spent
there, I spent almost entirely in class, or at least associating with people, who
had the same problems, that we have in our town. When you go to these things
a lot of times, some of the people that you meet have as much to offer you, as
some of the talks that you go to. I-don't know how many of you have ever been
to professional conventions, and things like that, but if you go to them on occassion,
and you sit down with, let's say, with a group of lawyers, or myself, and a
group of dentists~ sometimes the conversation that 9oes, even over lunchtime,
would give you a tremendous insight into something, that you may not have heard
through your lecture, but if the public feels that that's very important I don't
think I'd have a problem writing down the courses that I attended, and what
I learned. Being new on the Board, I think it was very, very informative myself,
and I attended things from Planning and Zoning, to how Cablevision comes into
town, and how to handle..we're going to have an insurance company that may
be formed by the Association of Towns for liability in the towns. There were
a lot of ideas, that were put forth. I thought it was very beneficial. How to
· handle Civil Service employees, disabilities act.
COUNCILWOMAN HUSSIE: Actually Joe and I were running around like chickens
without a head, because there were so many things offered, that we decided
that we would kind of..he would go to one thing, and I would go to the other,
and we'd compare notes. There was an awful lot to absorb.
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: I would like to add just one comment. You asked whether
there were written reports. I prepared reports, already on the sessions, that
I attended. I was there for only one day. I went in, and came back, and those
reports are largely for the Zoning Board of Appeals, and for the Planning Board,
who had nobody from this town representing them. There were many people
from Planning Boards, and Zoning Boards of Appeal, from other towns throughout
the State of New York. This town didn't have anybody there, and so I came -
back, and have prepared several reports. In addition, we met informally with
a number of the DEC representatives to- deal with our waste management problems.
We are at an impasse with the DEC, and have not been able to meet effectively
with them. This meeting provided an excellent opportunity, and again we have
reports based on those discussions, also.
VASCO SIMIDOR:, But I take it, it's not policy to have a report by everyone
who attends. Is that true? Is that a policy? I'm addressing you now, Mr. Penny.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR PENNY: The town has had occassionally required reports
in the time that I've been on the Town Board. This year the requirement was
not made in advance, although I'm certain that anybody can do it from memory,
the ones that already attended. The sessions by the Judges are mandatory sessions.
The sessions, that the Judge's Clerks go to, are learning sessions, also. The
Town Board, in fact in the Work Session today, we spent a great amount of time
discussing matters, and opportunities that did arise, through contacts at the
Association of Towns. As far as a formal report, I'm sure that any Councilman
will be very happy to offer that to the public at any time, and also, in regard
to the sessions, that they attended, but it is not, as it stands right now, a
policy of the Town, although it could be on a moment's notice.
VASCO SIMIDOR: Will the Chair, and the Board, entertain that concept in the
future, for everyone that attends, not just the Council itself?
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR PENNY: There is no reason not to. I think it would
clear the air here. I think it would probably be a very good thing.
VASCO SIMIDOR: Councilwoman Hussie, you mentioned lobbying. Is that done
collectively, individually, or how did you do your lobbying?
COUNCILWOMAN HUSSIE: I didn't say that I did the lobbying. I said that the
Association of Towns, as an organization, lobbied Albany. Small towns throu~ghout
the State have pretty much the same problems, those with State mandates wit, h
the lack of money, lack of funding, and all that sort of thing, and do seem to
be the least member on the chain, so to speak. The Association of Towns does
have people right in Albany, who take collectively the town's problems, and
lobby. One of the things is the Wick's Law, something which I will allow Mr.
Wickham to talk about, if he wants to, which is a very important thing as far
as our Budget is concerned. Another thing is a environmental assistance fund,
which is being talked about by the DEC, and also by the Governor. Now, this
pressure from a group of towns, we certainly have more clot, than if we tried
to stand on our own.
VASCO SIMIDOR: So, that's a collective procedure?
COUNCILWOMAN HUSSIE: Yes.
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: May I add to that? It is a collective procedure in
that atthe end of the three days, the two and a half days, the Wednesday .morning,
there were formal votes taken on a series of resolutions, that the Association
of Towns, and those representatives, like ourselves, helped put together. That
was a collective vote taken on a number of important issues, issues that can save
the town a great deal of money, if in fac't, they would be effected in Albany.
In addition, there was individual lobbying on the parts of individual people here,
when we could meet key people, and talk to them one on one. In many ways,
that's the most effective way to get recognition of the problems, and in particular
the tax problems, that this town faces, and get- some relief, at the State level.
We face a lot of mandates, and we need to relax some of them.
VASCO SIMIDOR: Did you individually lobby?
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: I did.
VASCO SIMIDOR: Did you, Mrs. Hussie?
COUNCILWOMAN HUSSIES: I did not.
VASCO SIMIDOR: Did you, Mr. Lizewski?
COUNCILMAN LIZEWSKI: No, I did not.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR PENNY: The Supervisor is not here, but he is a member
of the New York State Association of Towns Solid Waste Management Task Force,
and the Supervisor, I understand, although I haven't had a great amount of
time to talk to him, spent a lot amount of time with some of the smaller communities
upstate, who are going to be subject to virtually'the same law,. that we're going
through right now. They are very, and thoroughly interested in the aspects
of our hydrological studies., which have been consistent with the ones they've
had upstate, which have showed that the pollution,, or the suspected pollution
from landfills, has not affected groundwater in ninety percent of the cases. This
is going to become very important, because in 1992 these small towns upstate
are going to be subject to the law, which we have been subject to for two years
now, and it is very important, and it's finally getting to the point in time, where
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some of the upstate legislatures are starting to listen, because now their towns
are under the pressure, and same constraints, that we were, so this was a very
important lobbying effort on behalf of the Supervisor, and I'm certain that he
will report on that when he's here at our next meeting.
VASCO SIMIDOR: I just have two more questions, and then I'll relinquish the
floor for awhile anyway. Is there a possibility of my getting a copy of that
conference program?
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR PENNY: Sure, from the Town Clerk's Office.
VASCO SIMIDOR: What was the individual fee for this conference?
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR PENNY: Fifty-five dollars. Is there someone else in the
audience, that would care to address the Town Board at this time?
JOHN DOHT: My name is John Doht, and I'm Southold Village, and I have a
couple of questions on the same subject, as the gentleman before me spoke.
Number one, when was the Town advised that this meeting was going to take
place?
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR PENNY: This is an annual meeting.
JOHN DOHT: Every year at the same time?
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR PENNY: Every year at the same time.
JOHN DOHT: Why does it happen that resolutions go the week after:? You could
have brought this up in a resolution three meetings ago, and let the people know
what your intent was. See, I hate one thing you do here today, and that is
you always do something, and then you go back, and correct it. When you
rescinded the increases for those Town employees, I thought, hey, you .guys
are on the right boat. You're doing something. You recognize the economic
problems, that the residents of this town have. Then you turn around, and
two weeks later, you take fourteen or fifteen people on a trip to New York. Now,
I don't question the fact that some of you may have learned something. Mr.
Lizewski, and Mrs. Hussie are new to the Board, so this may be a whole new
thing for them, but it seems to me that you knew this meeting was coming up.
You should have put in a resolution before the meeting, and [et the people know
what your intents was. That's my point.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR PENNY: It was done in January, but it was not done
by name, it was done setting the amount for the people.
JOHN DOHT: Number of people?
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR PENNY:
like it was today.
The number of people was not exactly specified
JOHN DOHT: You read in the paper, like I read in the paper, that Southampton
sent no one, and Riverhead sent no one. What I would really love to know is
the attendance at that meeting, where did all the people come from? How many
people sent fifteen people.
COUNCILMAN LIZEWSKI: I'd like to get you those figures. Those figures would
knock your socks off. You wonder why the other didn't go.
JOHN DOHT: I would appreciate that very much.
ED SIEGMANN: I'm on a different subject at the moment, About two weeks ago,
I met with the Board at one of their Work Session, and I asked that would you
people look into the way development rights progress, how the taxpayer pays
for the development, the sale of the development rights, and then the person
who gets the development rights pays almost nothing in taxes, and at that time
I suggested that you ought to take a look at this, and see if there can't be some
changes made. You had said at that time, that you didn't have to 90 over this,
but I said to you, that if you're not in favor of changing it, there's no sense
me going the next'step, because if they, come back to you, and say, do you think
we should make some changes in this, and you say, no, they're not going to
go any further with it. I've got some of the people, who apparently sold their
development rights, went to the newspapers with their story, and I'd like to
read two of them to you, because I think they make a better case than I did
for changing how you practice your sale of development rights. Mr. John Wickham
wrote to the newspaper, and said the following, Wickham's Fruit Farm has
consistently used proceeds from the sale of development rights to buy adjacent
lands, that have had to be sold to pay inheritance taxes. That alone confirms
what I'm talking about, that if he can take $212,000.00 that he got of the tax-
payers' money, and then buy other land, and wind up only paying s17.00 an
acre ta,'.~es, I still say that's wrong. I don't have any question with the buying
of development rights, but when that tax is reduced to $17.00 without having
a means test at all of what their income is, whether they're entitled to that type
of a ta× reduction. I think a means right has to be put into effect, because
somebody with an income of $100,000.00 a year does not have to pay taxes, or
only pays s17.00 taxes on an acre, where somebody with $20,000.00 a year is
paying a hell of lot more than that, it doesn't make any sense to me. Now let
me go to the ne×t person, who wrote to the newspaper. He didn't write to the
newspaper, but apparently he was questioned by a reporter, and this is what
he said. Recently farmland with development rights have been selling for $20,000.00
an acre. Under the law the property can be purchased, but with the development
rights sold, the new owner would be bound by the conditions. This is a good
way to leave legacy to your families, and to the community, said Al ~rupski,
a Southold Trustee and farmer, who has sold rights on most of his twenty-eight
acres. In addition, he said, it reduces your taxes, and gives you cash, which
you can use to pay off a mortgage, or buy more land. Is the taxpayer in business
to help somebody buy more land, or to reduce his taxes, if he has the ability
to pay those ta)~es? I don't think so. So, again, I'm asking this Board, I would
like you to make the decision that says, that the possibility is that this law should
relooked at to see if there are some inequities in it, that could be changed, and
I always hear everybody say about the sale of these development rights. They
say that for ever and hereafter, this property is going to be dreamed. I don't
know if you know about it or not, but do you know that East Hampton is meeting
on the problem now of what do we do with the property with the property that
we saved and bought the development rights for years ago? They're talking
about the possibility of putting up greenhouses, putting up barns, and other
things that they would use that property for. So, it's not an indication that
forever and hereafter it's 9oin9 be a sod farm, or it's goin.9 to be a potatoe farm,
and I've also found out, that fifty years from now, if somebody wants to come
along, and put a change on a ballot, and say, welt, we won't save this property
anymore. We're going to do something else with it. The people at that point
would have a right to change what you're doing with it now. So, it's not written
in stone, that says it will never be changed, it wil always be green. I don't
have any objections to it being green. Believe me, I believe the way a lot of
people do out here, I like the way the countryside is. I'd like a lot of it to
stay that way, but not at the e;~pense of the taxpayer, where he pays on both
ends. He pays for the purchase of the property rights to start with, and then
the ta,':es are almost reduced to nothing. I think you should change it. Thank
you.
ROBERT GARBEN: Thank you for giving me this opportunity to speak to you.
I appreciate it, because I've had some trouble- with reference to one of your
resolutions, number 12 with Sayville Ford. I would advise you to be very careful
with this company, especially with their warranties. I had a Ford Ranger truck,
new, that I bought from them a number of years ago, and I had trouble as long
as I own the vehicle. I informed them of what the problem was, and it was with
the differential. It would not pull the trailer I had bought it for, and I gave
them all the information regarding the weight, and they absolutely promised me
that it would be adequate to pull this vehicle in the Eastern seaboard. For over a
year I tried to have this differential on this truck corrected, and they keep giving
me the runaround for six to eight months, and I'd go up there every three or
four weeks trying to have this corrected. I would suggest that you get an
addendum to your contract to have things corrected within a limited time, or
you're going to be stuck with the Crown Victoria possibly, which is a good car,
but I'm reluctant to go with Sayville Ford, and I advise you to do the same.
Thank you.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR PENNY: Our decision is based upon the bid price.
ROBERT GARBEN: I understand that. I just wanted to give you a warning.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR PENNY: We don't Iike to o,o out of town, anymore than
an,/body else does, but there was a few thousand dollars saving, and we have
to award it to the lowest responsible bidder.
ROBERT GARBEN: I understand.
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DEPUTY SUPERVISOR PENNY: The reason that we're switching to Fords is that
we had some curious experiencies, and there have been some curious experience
with Chevrolets in the last Police vehicles. So, it has been the recommendation
of the Chief of Police, that people have had good experience with the Ford
Crown Victoria, that's why in this we specified the Ford Cro~vn Victorias. We
hope everything works out.
ROBERT GARBEN: Just be sure to read the lines very closely, and they abide
by it.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR PENNY: We will follow that up, believe me.
ROBERT GARBEN: The only disadvantage is that you have to travel all the
way to Sayville to get this warranty satisfied.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR PENNY: We have tried in the past to limit the-bid process
to just a local situation, and there have been comments made to us by the State
in our audits, that it's illegal for us to do that. We would love to be able to
just be able to deal locally.
COUNCILWOMAN HUSSIE: I understand, Mr. Garben, from the Police Chief,
that the warranty work will be done locally.
ROBERT GARBEN: That would be more satisfactory then. Thank you.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR PENNY: Is there an~'body else at this time, that would
care to address the Town Board?
ED SCHWINDT: Ed Schwindt from Southold. ! agree 100% with what that gentleman
over there said, about the Town Board, and the way they react. Now, this
morning Channel 12 mentioned that in Nassau County, I think it's 250 people
are going to be layed off. We all know what's going on with General Motors.
What we're trying to do is to get the message across to this Board, that we don't
want to spend any unnecessary money, and I think most of these people are here
questioning this trip to the city. I have attended seminars, and I agree with
what Alice said, and some of you other people, that they can be beneficial. But,
couldn't it have been done in a more economical way? First of all, I don't under-
stand if it was such business seminar, and such i~portance, and so time consuming,
~Jqy did the spouses all go along? Did most people take their spouses?
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: Very few took their spouse, and when they did, they
paid for their spouses out of their pockets.
ED SCHWINDT: I realize that, but didn't the spouses stay in the same room?
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: Of course, they did.
ED SCHWINDT: Then couldn't two men have stayed in the same room, and cut
the price practically ~ in half? Two Councilp)eople of the same sex?
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: As a matter'of fact, a number of us didn't take any
hotel. We simply went in the morning, and came back again at night. In fact
some of us paid for that out of our own pockets.
ED SCHWINDT:That's admirable. I applaud that. I think that's great.
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: You can't just assume, that the S685.00, that was the
outside price, that was the expense allowance that the Town would permit, was
actually used, nowheres near. We have begun to try to squeeze out every bit
of fat we can possible can.
ED SCHWINDT: I think that's admirable, and that's the way it should be~ As
this gentleman said before, we had to come before you, and turn around this
$t0,000.00 raise that given out. The people just can't spend the money. That's
what we're up against. People are losing their houses. The'z; can't even sell
them, because of the tax situation, and can't blame them for resenting things
like this. The paper said it was $9,000.00 for this trip.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR PENNY: We don't have any final figure on that. I know
in one case, where it was quoted the Town +tistorian was going, and it's ray
understanding that the Town Historian went in on a dai y basis, and stayed with
a cousin in New York City. She stayed in there with her family, so I'm sure
that will be one of the smallest bill that we've ever seen from this. You can't
just tre~t everybody the same. Some people only went in for one day. Some
people went in for two days. Everybody was under a little'different situation.
But, believe you me, we have received the message by virtue of the fact that
there are so many people here in attendance, I'm sure that when we go to
schedule in the Budget for next year, that all this will be taken into account.
We do have long memories.
ED $CHWINDT: I hope so, because November comes around again. Remember
that. Just one other thing, if I may on another subject. You approved the
Town performances at the gazebo down there, and I wish you would consider
removing that great big high wheat-like bush that's in the middle there, because
everytime there's a group that want to sing, or do. anythinG !n the front, ,nobody
can sit in the front. You have to sit on both sides in order to see, because
that grows about five, or six feet high, and the woman, ] can't think of her
name unfortunately, but the woman who sponsors and runs this thing said, please,
bring it up before the Board. It's very important. Thank you.
BILL GUYTON: My name is Bill Guyton. I'm from $outhold. I just have one
thing to say to you. Two of my three sons have left this town, because they
can't afford to buy a house here. They were, as far as I was concerned, quite
an attribute to this town, but if you don't realize that we're losing our young
people in this town, you've got to face this fact. You're losing the old people.
They're already moving. You lose the young' ones, too, and they are our service.
They're the ones that take care of us.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR PENNY: Is there anybody else from the audience at this
time?
JOE RISTUCClA: My name is Joe Ristuccia. I'm Chairman of the TaxPac group
in Southold. I'd just like to comment, and just say that the junket to New York
City is a dead issue, but ] just want to say a few things. There were some
people in there, that I felt, didn't really have to go, particularly when somebody
whose going to retire pretty soon goes, and somehow or other, in the.company
that I worked for, I never took my spouse along with me, because you had to
concentrate on business. I think government ought to do the same thing. I'm
sure, Alice, you got an awful lot out of it. I know you did, too, Joe. You're
new people on the Board. Certainly the older people, the people that have been
around awhile, to them it's the same old stuff. Yes, you meet old friendships,
and it's a good time. I know there's a lot of partying that goes on, but I can
tell you right now, that what some of the people said here tonight, or this after-
noon, is really a concern, and that's what my message is for to the Board toctay.
I'd like to make just a few comments, if I will, and I want i~t then to conclude
by making a proposal to the Board. What I'm going to say today's going to
be an opportunity for you. An opportunity to improve good goverment in this
town. But before I begin on it, I'd just like to mention that one of the reasons
why I moved to Southold was because as far as I'm concerned, I think that this
is probably a Garden of Eden, as far as Long Island is concerned. It's one of
the last spots, a last f~ontier. I lived, as a matter of fact, on the South Fork
a number of years ago, and I left the South Fork for the North Fork, because
I think this is the nicest place to live in on Long Island. You just have to look
around, you see the farms, the bays, the Sound. You have everything here~
and you people are entrusted, and have the faith of us, with certain responsi-
bilities, and with that responsibility comes accountability. I, also, want to say
that one of the reasons I moved here is because, and I can say this quite
sincerely, there's some nice folks in this town, real nice people. I really can't
think of anyone, that I can say is a real stinker. Most people here are nice
folks, and would like to keep it that way. But now I'd like to move on a little
bit, and talk a little bit about how you're doing, l'm a teacher, so I give out
grades to my students. I'm used to doing that. I don't give you high marks
right now, however I see hope. Let me explain myself.. First, I want to compliment
you, and this is on the plus side, that Tom Wickham, I read a memo that he
wrote to the Board relating to the closure of Landfill Law, that he's working
with a man by the name of Mauris Ikki. He's an upstater, is that right, Tom?
You're trying, perhaps influence, Joe, whatever you want to do, to get him to
see our side, because what happens to us, is going to happen to them, so maybe
there's some hope in reversing this insideous law. Regarding the Landfill issue,
TaxPac supported you wholeheartedly, and did not support your opponents, only
on that basis, because we recognize that if the Landfill was closed, it's going
to be expensive. I shudder to think if that happens, how expensive it's going
to be, but that endorsement was very qualified, highly qualified, and TaxPac
made a point, that did not approve of the budgetering of the town, and I was
reallyhorrified around November watching Tom. Just let me illustrate what I
mean. Before election the budget proposal was 5.5 percent, and then between,
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I think it was one or two days just before election day, it Went to 7.7, and by
the time I came to a Town Board meeting here, and raised my objections, it was
raised to 8.3. That kind of budgetering is not very impressive. I'm not impressed
by the way it was handled. As a matter of fact, I think it smacks of lack of
professionalism, and you know that the last guy that did that kind of thing in
Suffolk County. You know what happened to him. He was replaced, and we're
talking about Halpin. He came 'n. He was going to lower taxes, and he raised
the taxes of this town, Suffolk County tax, to 169%, when he said it was going
to be 16%. I have to commend you also in that you looked at the judgement that
you rendered regarding the salary increases, and you reversed yourself on that.
I thought that was fantastic, because it sets the right tone, and the right attitude.
I think from that point you can start working with everyone that you have to
work with the town. It sets the right feeling on how things should be going.
I heard a wor~, that I just don't like, and that's bare bones budget. That doesn't
tell me a darn thing. Bare bones budget is just a cliche. I would like to see
some hard facts, as to what bare bones budget is. The trip thing is just small
potatoes, but it's the attitude. I honestly feel that you should have gone, Alice,
and you, Joe, yes, but some of the others, no. When you read the newspapers,
and you saw that Tony Bullock in Easthampton is on austerity, and sent no one
except for the Judges, and Freddy Theile did the same thing, and Janoski has
done the same thing, it tells you something, that when there's a majority of people
on the east end of Long Island, or east end of our community here, and they
all elect not to go, it didn't show that you had leadership. My recommendation
to you is prudence. I'd like to see some good judgement, and as I mentioned
earlier, you have to have accountability for the responsibility that we gave you,
and therefore I wish to propose to you a TaxPac resolution that it's Executive
Board passed. Our town has many worthy projects. As Tom Wickham indicated
earlier this afternoon, I advised everyone here to do what Tom says. Get involved
with those meetings, because that represents the vision of this town for the next
ten or twenty years. What is decided there, if you don't put your imput, is
going to effect all of us, and effect your heirs. This town could become a gem,
but if we don't do the right thing, we don't explore what has to be done, it
could be very bad. It could be like the rest of Long Island (tape change) this
is a real nice place to live, but then over the last few years, we found that it
became intolerable, so I urge you to pick up on what Tom is saying, and get
involved. I, also, want to compliment everyone in this room for coming here
today, because you can voice, you want to give these people. They can't run
this job by themselves. They need your imput, and we should be here to tell
them when we feel that they're doing a good job, and we should tell them when
they're not doing a good job. So, in our resolution we feel there are many worthy
projects, that have to be implemented, the US/UK thing. We're talking about
the environment. We also have to look at some financial security' for this toWn,
because there are a lot of towns on Long Island, that are going down the drain.
This town is on it's way there, and we could stop it. There are environmental
needs. There are educational pursuits, that doesn't really concern you, but
we would like-to have your help,with the citizens of this community, that talk
to me, the educational establishment, that perhaps start modifiying, and find
ways, to not only to enhance educational excellence, but reduce it's costs, because
that's a load Of bureauracy, also. Finally, it's citizens has to have it's well
being taken care of. A lot of people in this town pay a lot of taXes. Forty
percent of this town are senior citizens, and they are very, Very good citi'~ens,
and they should reap through benefits of that. The goal of TaxPac is to meet
those programs, implement these programs consistent with stabilizing runaway
budget increases. They want to stabilize it. The last two years'taxes have
risen almost 23%, and if I were to throw into that equation the special districts,
it's more, but let's leave it at 23% over the last two years. Even our ' wonderful
governor Mario Cuomo, and David Dinkins, and anyone else you. want to find
in this..except Halpin, I'll take that as an exception, as bad as a 23% increase.
We have to 'do something about that. So, therefore TaxPac is suggesting that
you allow TaxPac to review the town's operation, so as to accomplish this goal.
We want to help you. We want to work with you. We want you t~) haive the benefit
of us, and we have some people in our organization, who are .accountants, engineers,
a whole host of retired professionals, who can come here, and review what's
happening, arid give you suggestions. You can benefit from ~his opportunity,
because we can give you our perspective. You're up there, and you have your
perspective, and we're out here, and we're the ones that pay the billS. So,
what I'm suggesting here is, that you take this as an opportunity from our
resolution, that we rev-~ew your budgets, and review your operation,, so that
we can come up with our view of how it should be. Thank you very much.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR PENNY: Is there anybody else at this time, that would
like to address the Town Board on any subject?
HENRY ANDER: My name is Henry Ander. I represent the Senior Club of
Southold-Peconic. I can't complain about you people up there, because I voted
for most of you. We know you're tryincj to do a good job, but I only have one
thing to ask of you. You are our employees. We are paying you with our taxes.
When you consider bills, that cost money, spend the money like it was you own.
Don't think that you're the mouth of a cornucopia of endless funds. I know
you all pay taxes out here. You all work for a living, but in reviewing my income
tax in the last coupIe of weeks, I've gone over some of my tax bills. I~ve been
paying taxes out here since 1965. I first came out here in 1940, and I like it,
because my inlaws lived out here, and it's good country, but the taxes is
escalating. I retired in 1977, and believe me, I've had to curtail my living
expenses, because my taxes has escalated out of sight, and it's not only your
taxes, but school tax, that's one thing. The only thing I'm asking you, l'm
pleading with you, and I represent about 150 active members. They're all in
the same boat as me, most of them. Consider the cost effectiveness of any
legislation, which you Promulgate, and if it's not cost effective, don't do it.
That's all. You can save a lot of money. I know that the employees in the town,
the wages went up far and above the cost of living. When you negotiate with
the unions, put your cards on the table. Let them knoW that some of these
people working for us are making far more than we did, and doing a lot less
for it. That's all I had to say. You're not doing a bad job. That $9,000~ for
a New York junket. I went on plenty of junkets, when I was working. I didn't
take my wife, because it wasn't permitted, but times have changed in the last
twenty-five years, but just consider the people who pay before you enact laws
that going to raise our taxes. Thank you.
PAUL SPARA: My name is Paul Spara from Mattituck. I~m a long ~ime member
of Southold Community.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR PENNY: Paul is also our cameraman. He's doing double
duty.
PAUL SPARA: I'd like to point our a couple of things. I've been coming to
these meetings for a long time now. I'm a camera person for Cablevision for
Channel 25. It's always been my concern where were the people? I heard a
couple of things brought up about when was this resolution voted on, and stuff?
I would like to make a challange to the community, where were you when that
resolution was here? This is the most attended meeting i've ever been at. Look
at the age of the people here. I'm really concerned. Where are the people my
age here? That's a thought. Maybe we should have some meetings, so we can
get involved, but what I seem to notice is that the only people have any community
involvement is when it just directly affects-them, then they're here, when it's
a personal thing, when it's their personal pocketbook. I moved to this community
from the South Fork, like t~e other gentleman, because I recognized a different
attitude in the people here. They seemed to be more community involved. They
seem to be more family oriented. They seem to care more about the people, and
the things in the community, although I noticed this kind of steadily decrease
over the past years. Just a quick little note about bringing the spouses. I
find that incorrigible. If you think my sweetheart is going to come along on
a boring..l've been on plenty of them, on a boring trip, where they're probably
not going to be able to attend a lot of the training sessions, or even if they
do it doesn't mean anything. So, I'm guess what I'm saying is I'm encouraged
to hear what I heard tonight, like the gentleman from TaxPac, and the members
of the TaxPac, and I like to see the people here, and l'd like to see them
continuing to come to the meetings, and get more involved. I firmly believe that
we are the government, and you're not the sole..we're supposed to be helping
you. We're supposed to be guiding you. We're supposed to coming up, and
not just bickering, but being able to provide you with alternative solutions, or
at least ideas. There's many ways to open UP other doors of thought. I haven't
seen that. I'll repeat myself. I've been doing this meeting for over a year,
every single one of them, also said, as far as Cablevision come into the community,
we're always a resource available for you. Another thing I picked up, as far
as going to these various different training sessions, mainly because of my financial
situation, I haven't been able to go to various schools, and do new things, so
i've had to learn a lot on my own. I mean I'm learning a couple of languages
on my own. I'm doing all things, because there are other resources. Is there
a possibility that some of these things as far as whatever training it is, is in
the material and documentation, in writing? Do you have to go, or can you get
this stuff, where it's available? I mean, just as a way of maybe saving some
money, i don't know how available it is.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR PENNY: In some case, yes, and in some cases, no. I
think you've heard from the members that attended, that there is a certain element
in actual participation, and discussion, that can't get them from just reading
an article. Not in every case, I wouldn't say that's the truth in every case,
but I think that the give and take, and the sharing of experiences, especially
with this pending Landfill Law coming down on us, it's a sharing of experiences
with the other towns, but is a learning process for all of us, and hopefully it
will resolve in some amended legislation, which will grant relief to us.
PAUL SPARA: I agree that networking is important, because I've been on things,
too, and you just learn a lot, especially, you know, the internal workings, that
you're not going to get. Maybe, in the future we could send someone who is
going to represent, and try to do the best they can. You know, send one instead
of three, or something like that.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR.PENNY: There are classes, as you know New York City
is big, and there are concurrent classes for town attorneys, for town clerks,
for assessors, for councilman, for supervisors, for judges, for everybody, all
going on at the same time, for the superintendent of highways, planning boards.
I mean,the schedule is really tremendous. I mean, you have a selection, and
'E)wn Board members can attend functions on planning and zoning. Town Board
members can also attend judicial functions. So, depending upon..you know you
pick and choose like a chinese resiaurant, what you want to go to, and if you
feel that you're weak in an area, or you really want to get a direct response.
You can't get neccessarily get it on a five minutes call on the telephone. I found
in the year, that I went', that was extremely important.
COUNCILWOMAN HUSSIE: Actually, Paul, there were about sixty, or sixty-five
different topics being done over the three day period. The other thing is, that
addressing your question about reading it in a book, or something, most of the
topics were things that have come up, and are absolutely current, and of immediate
concern.
PAUL SPARA: l'm just curious because I realize how all of it's adding up. It's
funny that we sent so many people, specifically, and I hear the other towns didn't.
Maybe there's someway we can cooperate. . with cooperation with the towns.
COUNCILWOMAN HUSSIE: I really don't know. As far as any networking, 1
did meet some people, and I would think that the main thing that I did, was
give some hope to a very, very small town in upstate New York with 200 people.
You think we have it bad, 200 people who are going to have to spend $1,600,000.
to cap their landfill. They don't even have enough money to petition, or to
start a law suit, and they are just crying. It's very sad. I mean, that sort
of thing. If that's networking, I did it.
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PAUL SPARA: That's all I had to say. T~ank you.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR PENNY: Just out of curiosity, could we have by a show
of hands, how many people watch these meetings on television on Channel 25? Are
you aware that this is on, on a'regular basis? Channel 25.
VASCO SIMIDOR: I just have a ~'eply to the gentleman, that just spoke. Many
of the people, that are here go to three to four meetings a week, not just here,
but I think at four' o'clock only certain people can avail themselves of being here
at that time, and I do agree that I would like to see some more young people
be as active as we are. Thank you.
DAVE CLOTHER: Dave Clother. On Resolution #28, is this a new position?
It's the appointment of secretary for the Solid Waste Management Task Force.
What does that entail?
COUNCILWOMAN HUSSIE: That entails no more than five hours a week. The
Solid Waste Task Force generates a bit of paperwork, and while we have secretary,
who is not actually attending the meetings, but will transcribe' from a tape the
minutes. We might need her at some time, but it's not a new position, and it
is all in accordance with the law. She can not work anymore than five hours
a week.
DAVE CLOTHER: Is she employed by the town?
COUNCILWOMAN HUSSIE: Yes.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR PENNY: She's doing a large amount of this transcription
as she works in the Town Hall already. This will cover her in case it was required,
that she had to make up some time on her own, but right now we have not had
to utilize this, but we passed this resolution in the event that it happens.
there anybody else in the audience, who would care to address the Town Board
on this time?
JOHN DOHT: Just one thing. Bringing up that question, that that gentleman
just did, it reinforces my concern of the way that things are done, that a five
hour :[ob, 1 believe this young lady is your secretary, is she not?
TOWN ATTORNEY ARNOFF: Yes. That's correct.
JOHN DOHT: And she was a person, who was scheduled to get an increase,
which you rescinded. Mrs. Santacroce was not scheduled for an increase in that
review?
TOWN CLERK TERRY: Yes. That's correct.
JOHN DOHT: She certainly was, so this is your way of giving her more money.
COUNCILWOMAN HUSSIE: I just went around Town Hall to try to find somebody,
who would possibly be able to do this, and she said that she would do it, and
she probably could do it while she was working at her desk, and I don't know,
there's malice or forethought, sir.
JOHN DOHT: My concern is the number of people, that are unemployed in this
town. You're hiring part-time people. Why didn't you offer that to a..?
COUNCILWOMAN HUSSIE: That's not a new position. That just says, that in
the event that she has to work beyond her regular hours in the town, she would
be paid for those hours, here and there, probably no more than two hours every
two weeks.
JOHN DOHT: You can see my point, though?
COUNCILWOMAN HUSSIE: Good question.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR PENNY: Is there anybody else in the audience, that would
care to address us at this time?
DOROTHY PHILLIPS: My name is Dorothy Philips, and I would like to address
something,that happened in connection with a postcard sent by the new North
Fork Environmental Council to it's members asking them to call the Town Hall,
and to make a statement about Jem Commons. We were told when we made this
telephone call, that we had to make our comments in writing, and I understand
the procedure that they meet, that the affair of Jems Commons had been closed,
that, maybe, the comment period was maybe technically over, and that anything
we people who responded to this card would have to do it in writing. On the
other hand, you are cutting off a grass roots kind of contact with your people.
They called to comment. They called to say that they do not approve of this,
and to answer them in that way was sort of offensive to the person who called,
and it also indicated that you weren't particularly interested in hearing from
us about topics, that interested ~the community. I called Town Hall before, and
I've been told that the comments had to be in writing. I think I was hoping
someday you would take the name of the person, and find out where the person
lives and town, and take their comment as a valid kind of expression of grass
roots feel. That's all I want to say.
COUNCILMAN LIZEWSKI: Dorothy, I personally will tell you, that I would be
the first person to ever deny anybody the right to speak on anything, even
after the fact. I don't think that this Board, anybody on this Board, would
ever want to deny anybody the right to make a comment, that' would be adverse
to their own opinion. I mean, that's what makes this country great, and that's
what makes these kind of meetings, and this kind of community go, and I really
feel that I don't know how it happened, but I don't think people..and on this
particular Board would-really care to ever denied you, or anybody, the right
to speak about something, even if it was out of order, Dorothy. I mean, if you
have an opinion, and anybody has an opinion, they should be able to voice their
opinion, and we're here to listen to you, and believe it or not, I believe everybody
on this Board is very conscious of everything that went on here today, and it
will be thot~ght of and talked about.
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DOROTHY PHILIPS: We called Hochbrueckner 'n Washington,' and Senator Moynihan,
and anyone can call them. They will take your name. They will log you in as
an individual, and they will accept your opinion, and I would hope that the Town
Board...
COUNCILMAN LIZEWSKI: As far as I'm concerned we do, and I do, and I know
I will always listen, and will always be here, that's all I can tell you.
DOROTHY PHILIPS: I've been told that by other members of the North Fork
Environmental Council.
ED SIEGMANN: Just about what this lady said, my wife was told the same thing,
when she called here, and wanted to register, that she was against the proposal
that was made. She was told to put it in writing.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR PENNY: Is there anybody else in the audience, that would
care to address the Town Board at this time?
COUNCILMAN LIZEWSKI: I'd like to finish up by saying that in our first couple
of months, that this Town Board isn't exactly what you think it's going to be
when you get involved in it. For one thing is, that on the outside, and the
private sector, a lot of us who have been in business have never had to deal
with CSEA union, or had to deal with regulations, and things, that have been
set forth before you. In the private sector, when you have problems they can
be handled in much different manner. In a town you have a lot of criteria, that
you have to go by, and the other thing I think that other than the taxes, that
you people are so concerned about, I also have a concern, and it's not necessarily
to do with taxes, but it has to do with just the bureaucrats, the bureaucratic
way that we have learned to handle things in Town Hall, and try to keep everybody
in check, i think it cost this town an awful lot of money through a lot of our
own procedures, and hopefully, some of this tape can be whittled down in the
next couple of years, and it's, I think even the cost of living will come down
for an awful lot of us, also. I think the cost of living is just as important, as
your taxes. I think some of things we do to try to keep everybody in place,
and everything, cross every T, and every I, cost us an awful lot of money,
because we duplicate it some of it, in some areas, and I hope that will be solved,
also. But it is an amazing process, and I think that I listen to all of you, I
know as ofter as I can, and I'm glad that you can come to these things, and
I think it attests to a town, that should have some strength going in the future,
and I think you all have an awful lot to offer, as seniors, and I'm looking forward
to seeing you more at these meetings, I certainly don't think anybody would turn
a deaf ear to you. Thank you very much.
JOE RISTUCCIA: I, too, would like to work with you, but I'd like to comment
on what you're saying. Some of the things, that we people as taxpayers can
do, is to give you some imput. For example, in Southampton, Fred Theile is
doing something that's almost impossible with the CSEA. He has a signed contract,
and he has gone to the Union, and has asked them to open up the contract in
the middle of the contract. Now, that's never been done, but he has a $3,000,000.
deficit. He's in trouble over there, and he's gone to the Union, and said, hey,
you got'ito~eat a million dollars. I don't know if you're aware of that, and the Union
is hemming and hawing, but at least..I don't know if the things going to be
successful. Maybe he's not going to be successful, but it's already happened
with the hospital workers, RIVEA of 1199. They settled the contract, no wage
increase, no benefit increase, no nothing. The only thing they got was job
security, they're not going to fire us. What we want to do, we will give you
imput. You know just because you're on the Town Board doesn't mean you know every-
thing possible. We can give the imput; and I'd like to poll you right now on
how you feel about my resolution from TaxPac. Alice?
COUNCILWOMAN LIZEWSKI: I would want to read it first.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR PENNY: If I could address that, please? I would like
to wrap up at this time. I want to thank everybody, including yourself,'for coming
out, and giving us such positive imput on such a delicate subject. This is probably
one of the largest audiences, that we've had in the Town Hall at one time, and
it's, also, one of the finest audiences, as 'far as everybody treated everybOdy
respectfully, and decently, and I commend you for that. There were no outbursts.
There~was no.'.it was:~just pleasant. It's the way things always used to be in
this town, and-it's what I've grown up to enjoy. It hasn't always been that
way over the s~x years, that I've been on the Town Board, and, believe you
me, I think that's why this meeting stuck out so much in my mind. As far as
the proposal from TaxPac, we welcome imput from the community. We welcome
imput as Paul, our cameraman, said earlier, when people come to the meetings,
and we've always opened up the meeting at the end to discussion, and to have
give and take, not to argue, not to fight, not to chastise each other, but if
somebody had legitimate concern, this is the place to bring it. It really gives
this town the country setting, that we've always been used to out here. It gives
you a chance to talk to the elected officials on a one on one. You don't have
to agree with us. We don't have to agree with you, but we talk to each other,
and the tone that ~as set tonight was phenomenal, and [ commend you for it.
As far as Joe's proposal through TaxPac, the Supervisor is not here. We will
discuss this thoroughly with him. I can speak for myself, and I think all the
members of the Town Board, and say that we welcome public imput. I've sat
at Budget meetings now for six years. Budget meetings in this town have been
the loneliest, most boring process in this town with absolutely no community imput.
Three people would show up at a Budget meeting, and say, well, what's going
on, because people don't understand municipal budgeting. I didn't understand
municpa budgeting, and I've done accounting all my life. I did the accounting
for two businesses, and started back in the 1960's. I got into muncipal
accounting, and it was a whole new ball game. I had to learn it from square one.
Anybody can learn it, but you have to be there. Please come to these meetings.
It's not easy, but believe you me, we'll work with you. We want your imput.
We're here because of you, and if you don't want us anymore, the message is
very clear, and we're out of here. Like you said, November comes around every
couple of years, and we're history. So, it behooves us to work together, and
I think what was offered today, I see is probably the start of something bigger,
and better for the future of this town, and I commend you for it. Thank you.
Can we have a motion to adjourn?
Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Councilman Lizewski, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board meeting be and hereby is adjourned at 5:50 P.M.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
~di~h T." T;rry~_~/
Southold Town Clerk