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OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERK
SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD
REGULAR MEETING
July 31, 2018
7:30 PM
A Regular Meeting of the Southold Town Board was held Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at the Meeting
Hall, Southold,NY.
Call to Order
7:30 PM Meeting called to order on July 31, 2018 at Meeting Hall, 53095 Route 25, Southold,
NY.
Attendee Name Organization Title Status Arrived
James Dinizio Jr : Town of Southold : Councilman Present
William P. Ruland Town of Southold Councilman Present ;
Jill DohertyTown of Southold i Councilwoman Present
Robert Ghosio -Town of Southold Councilman Present
Louisa P. Evans Town of Southold Justice Present
Scott A. Russell Town of Southold Supervisor Present
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Elizabeth A. Neville = Town of Southold ° Town Clerk Present
William M Duffy ; Town of Southold i Town Attorney Present 1
I. Reports
1. Trustees Monthly Report
2. Recreation Department Monthly Report
II. Public Notices
III. Communications
IV. Discussion
1. 9:00 Am -Heather Lanza and Members of the Planning Board with Matthew Carmody of
AKRF, Inc.
2. 9:30 Am - Planning Board Recommendation
Page 1
Southold Town Regular Board Meeting
July 31, 2018 page 2
3. 9:45 Am - Kristie Hansen-Hightower, Town Comptroller
4. 10:00 Am - Michael Collins and Jamie Richter
5. 10:15 Am - Chris Baiz with Members of the Agricultural Advisory Committee
6. Code Amendment- Section 280-21
7. Request for Resolution Supporting Peconic Land Trust Grant Application for the Wolf
Preserve
8. EXECUTIVE SESSION -Labor-Matters Involving the Employment of a Particular
Corporation(s)
9. EXECUTIVE SESSION -Labor- Matters Involving the Employment of a Particular
Person(s)
10. EXECUTIVE SESSION - Proposed Acquisition(S), Sale or Lease of Real Property Where
Publicity Would Substantially Affect the Value Thereof
11. EXECUTIVE SESSION -Litigation
12. 10:45 Am - Councilman Ghosio
Opening Comments
Supervisor Russell
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Please rise and join in the Pledge to the Flag. Thank you. I am
going to offer the opportunity to anybody that would like to comment on any of the regular
agenda items. (No response)
Minutes Approval
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the minutes dated:
Tuesday, March 27, 2018
✓Vote Record-Motion
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
James Dmizio Jr Voter IBJ ❑ El
21 Accepted Wiliam P Ruland Voter 0 ❑ ❑ F ❑
❑ Accepted as Amended Jill Doherty Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tabled Robert Ghosio Seconder 2 ❑ ❑ ❑
Louisa P Evans Mover D ❑ ❑ ❑
Scott A Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the minutes dated:
Tuesday, April 10, 2018
✓Vote Record-Motion
0 Accepted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Accepted as Amended .lames Dmizio Ir Voter D ❑ ❑ ❑
0 Tabled William P Roland Voter 0 0 ❑ 0
Southold Town Regular Board Meeting
July 31, 2018 page 3
Till Doherty Voter ❑ 1 ❑ ❑
Robert Ghosio Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
Louisa P Evans Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
- - -- - -------- ----- ---
Scott A Russell Voter-- - -0 ❑ ❑ ❑
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the minutes dated:
Tuesday,April 24, 2018
✓Vote Record-Motion
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
James Dm¢io Jr Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
0 Accepted William P Ruland Voter D ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Accepted as Amended Jill Doherty Voter ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tabled Robert Ghosio Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
Louisa P Evans Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
Scott A Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
V. Resolutions
2018-694
CA TF,GOR Y. Audit
13EPARTIVENT. Town Clerk
Approve Audit
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby approves the audit dated July
31, 2018.
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2018-694
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled
❑ Withdrawn James Dmizio Jr Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt William P Ruland Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Voter 2 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Seconder, 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hb ys Appt Scott A Russell Voter 1 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2018-695
CATEGORY. Set Meeting
DEPAR TUENT.• Town Clerk
Annual Fishers Island Torun Board Meeting
Southold Town Regular Board Meeting
July 31, 2018 page 4
RESOLVED that the Annual Fishers Island Town Board Meeting of the Southold Town Board
be held, Wednesday, August 8, 2018 on Fishers Island,New York at 1:30 P. M..
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2018-695
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled _ _
James Dmizio Ir Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Withdrawn
❑ Supervisor's Appt William P Ruland Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2018-696
CATEGORY. Set Meeting
DEPARTMENT: Town Clerk
Next Town Board Meeting
RESOLVED that the next Regular Town Board Meeting of the Southold Town Board be held,
Tuesday, August 14, 2018 at Southold Town Hall, 53095 Main Road, Southold,New York at
4:30 P. M..
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2018-696
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled
0 Withdrawn Tames Dizio,Ir Voter D 11 11
❑ Supervisor's Appt William P Ruland Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2018-697
CATEGORY. RefiJnd
Southold Town Regular Board Meeting
July 31, 2018 page 5
DEPARTMENT. Town Clerk
Refund of Trader Permit
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes a refund to John
Cushman, 1305 Village Lane Mattituck,NY 11952 in the amount of$20.00 for a Resident
Trailer permit as a duplicate permit was purchased in error.
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2018-697
Q Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled
El Withdrawn lames Dinizio Ir Mover Q ❑ ❑ El
❑ Supervisor's Appt William P Ruland Voter Q ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Seconder Q ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Voter Q ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Voter Q ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter Q ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2018-698
CATEGORY: Advertise
DEPARTMENT. Town Clerk
Advertise for Members of Parks, Beaches and Recreation Committee
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs the
Town Clerk to advertise for the position of Members of the Southold Town Parks, Beaches and
Recreation Committee.
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2018-698
Q Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled
❑ Withdrawn
James Dm¢io Jr Voter Q ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt William P Ruland Seconder Q ❑ ❑ ❑
ElTax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Mover Q ❑ ❑ ❑
El Rescinded Robert Ghosio Voter Q El ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Voter Q ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt HgNvys Appt Scott A Russell Voter Q ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
Southold Town Regular Board Meeting
July 31, 2018 page 6
2018-699
CATEGORY.° Budget Modification
DEPARTWENT: Solid Waste Management District
SWMD Budget Mods
Financial Impact:Restore funds inadvertantly removed from Composting Urea line due to double entry;
complete funding for grinder radiator.
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the 2018 Solid
Waste Management District budget as follows:
From:
SR 8160.4.400.250 Comp. Software Support $2,000
SR 8160.4.400.625 Tire Repair 300
Total $2;300
To:
SR 8160.4.100.608 Composting Urea $1,000
SR 8160.4.400.665 Repairs CBI Grinder 1,300
Total $2,300
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2018-699
21 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated
El Tabled
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
_
❑ Withdrawn James Dimzio Jr Voter El ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt William P Ruland Mover Rl ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Voter lZ ❑ ❑ El
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Voter ' 2 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Seconder 2 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter E0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2018-700
CATEGORY: Attend Seminar
DEPARTMENTAccounting
Attend Seminar-Accounting
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants permission to Kristie
Hansen-Hightower and Laura Arena to attend a seminar on municipal procurement in Great
Southold Town Regular Board Meeting
July 31, 2018 page 7
River,NY, on July 24, 2018. All expenses travel to be a legal charge to the 2018 budget
(A.1310.4.600.300 Travel Reimbursement).
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2018-700
10 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated _..
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled
❑ Withdrawn James Dmizio Jr Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt William P Roland Voter 171 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Seconder EI ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Mover RI ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2018-701
C'ATEG®RY.• Budget Modification
DEPARTHENT.• Assessors
2018 Budget Modification-Assessors
Financial Impact. to cover the overage for our Board of Assessment Review salaries
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the 2018 General
Fund budget as follows:
To:
A1355.1.300.150 Board of Assessors 95.00
Assessors, P.S.
Temporary/Seasonal
Board of Assessment Review
From:
A1355.4.600.200 Board of Assessors 95.00
Miscellaneous
Meetings & Seminars
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2018-701
0 Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Adopted as Amended ,lames Dmizio Jr Voter RI ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Defeated
❑ Tabled
William P Ruland Voter EI ❑ ❑ ❑
1
❑ Withdrawn Jill Doherty Voter Q ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt Robert Ghosio Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Louisa P.Evans Seconder IZI El ❑
❑ Rescinded Scott A Russell Voter D ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt
Southold Town Regular Board Meeting
July 31, 2018 page 8
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2018-702
CATEGORY.• Contracts,Lease &Agreements
DEPARTME-'VT. Trustees
Suffolk County Pump Out Boat Grant Agreement
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs
Supervisor Scott A. Russell to execute an inter-municipal agreement Rev. 7-20-2018 Law No.
18-ED-212 with the County of Suffolk for the receipt of funds in the amount of$19,700.00 from
the County to be utilized for the purchase of a new Pump Out Boat, subject to approval from the
Town Attorney.
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2018-702
Q Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled _
❑ Withdrawn James Dimzio Jr Mover D ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt William P Ruland Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
11 Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Seconder Rl ❑ ❑ El
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Voter 127 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Voter l ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2018-703
CATEGORY. Employment-FIFD
DE PA Accounting
Wage Rate Increase
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby ratifies and approves the
resolution number 2018-141 of the Fishers Island Ferry District adopted July 23, 2018 that reads
as follows:
Southold Town Regular Board Meeting
July 31, 2018 page 9
Whereas Karina Curbelo has exceeded all expectations as a Cashier (FIFD),
Therefore it is RESOLVED for increase Ms. Curbelo's wage rate from $12.75 to $13.00 with
effect July 5, 2018.
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2018-703
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated -- — -- - --— -- -
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled
James Dmizio Jr Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Withdrawn
❑ Supervisor's Appt William P Ruland Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2018-704
CATEGORY: Employment-FIFD
DEPARTMENT. Accounting
Accept Resignation of Ryan Miner
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby ratifies and approves the
resolution 2018-142 of the Fishers Island Ferry District adopted July 23, 2018 that accepts the
resignation effective June 30, 2018 of Ryan Miner, seasonal Deckhand (FIFD) for the Fishers
Island Ferry District.
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2018-704
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated —
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled
❑ Withdrawn lames Dmizio Jr Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
El Supervisor's Appt William P Roland Mover 0 ❑ ❑ El
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
Southold Town Regular Board Meeting
July 31, 2018 page 10
2018-705
CATEGORY: Employment-FIFD
DEPARTMENT- Accounting
Accept Resignation of Chase Lettrich
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby ratifies and approves the
resolution 2018-143 of the Fishers Island Ferry District adopted July 23, 2018 that accepts the
resignation effective July 15, 2018 of Chase Lettrich, seasonal Deckhand (FIFD) for the Fishers
Island Ferry District.
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2018-705
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled
❑ Withdrawn James Dmizio Jr Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt William P Ruland Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Voter ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
El Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A.Russell Voter 0 El El 11
❑ No Acton
❑ Lost
2018-706
CATEGORY.• Employment-FIFD
DEPARTMENT: Accounting
Terminate the Employment of Employee #67392
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby ratifies and approves the
resolution 2018-144 of the Fishers Island Ferry District adopted July 23, 2018 that terminates the
employment of employee # 67392 effective July 23, 2018.
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2018-706
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Defeated James Dmizio Jr Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tabled William P Ruland Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Withdrawn Jill Doherty Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt Robert Ghosio Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Louisa P Evans Seconder D ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Scott A Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt
0 Supt Hgwys Appt
Southold Town Regular Board Meeting
July 31, 2018 page 11
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2018-707
CATEGORY Employment-FIFD
DEPARTMENT: Accounting
Terminate the Employment of Employee #80590
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby ratifies and approves the
resolution 2018-145 of the Fishers Island Ferry District adopted July 23, 2018 that terminates the
employment of employee # 80590 effective July 23, 2018.
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2018-707
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled James D ___.
❑ Withdrawn m�zw Jr Mover El El
❑ Supervisor's Appt William P Roland Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter CJ ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2018-708
CATEGORY. Contracts,Lease&Agreements
DEPARTAI-ENT. Recreation
Hire Fall 2018 Recreation Program Instructors
Resolved that the Town Board of the Town of Southold authorize and direct Supervisor Scott A.
Russell to execute an agreement with the following individuals and businesses for the Fall 2018
recreation programs, all in accordance with the approval of the town attorney. Funding for the
instructors listed below has been budgeted for in the recreation department's 2018 instructor line
A.7020.4.500.420.
NF School For Dogs (Dog Obedience/Puppy STAR/Pre-Therapy) $90/person
Sara Bloom (Memoir Writing) $30/hour
Thomas Boucher(Guitar Lessons) $30/hour
Southold Town Regular Board Meeting
July 31, 2018 page 12
Nick Cordone (Pickleball) $30/hour
Heather Cusack(Herbs for Health) $30/hour
Martha Eagle (Aerobics &Pilates 2 Day) $40/class
Martha Eagle (Friday Only Pilates) $30/class
Suzzanne Fokine (Plein Air Painting) $30/hour
Bill Gatz (Youth Basketball) $30/hour
Island's End Golf& Country Club (Golf Lessons) $100/person
Rebecca Jens (Volleyball) $25/hour
Lois Levy (Art Journaling) $30/hour
Rosemary Martilotta (Hatha& Chair Yoga) $44/class
Kate McDowell (Tennis Lessons) $30/hour
Linda Nemeth (Watercolor) $30/hour
Craig Osmer(Youth Basketball) $30/hour
R&C Agency Management(CPR Course) $55/person
R&C Agency Management (Defensive Driving) $30/person
Grace Rowan (Senior Fitness Classes) $30/hour
Laurie Short (Fitness Classes) $30/hour
Steve Smith (Weight Training) $90/person
Alfonso Triggiani (Ballroom Dancing) $65/person
Barbara Terranova (Knitting & Jam Making) $30/hour
Ryan Wesnofske (Youth Basketball) $30/hour
Kerri Zablotny (Little Scholars) $30/hour
Huck Hirsch (Mah Jongg) $30/hour
North Fork Bodies in Motion(Walk15 Aerobics & Tai Chi) $30/hour
Bernie Kettenbeil (Smart Driver) Free
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2018-708
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated -
❑ Tabled Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Withdrawn James Dimzio Jr Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt William P Ruland Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2018-709
CATEGOR Y.° Employment-FIFD
DEPARTMENT: Accounting
Southold Town Regular Board Meeting
July 31, 2018 page 13
Seasonal FT Deckhand
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby ratifies and approves
resolution number 2018-147 of the Fishers Island Ferry District adopted July 27, 2018 that reads
as follows:
WHEREAS The Fishers Island Ferry District requires additional Deckhands;
Therefore it is RESOLVED to appoint, with effect August 2, 2018, Finbar Foley as summer
seasonal Deckhand (FIFD) at a rate of$12.50 per hour. On September 15, 2018, Mr. Foley will
terminate his summer seasonal position. On September 16, 2018 Mr. Foley will be appointed to
part-time Deckhand (FIFD).
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2018-709
Rl Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled
m
James Dizio Jr Voter D ❑
❑ Withdrawn ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt William P Ruland Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Till Doherty Voter z ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2018-710
CATEGORY. Budget Modification
DEPARTMENT. Police Dept
Police Department-Budget Modification
Financial Impact:Reallocation of funds for the purchase of Bulletproof vests-50%to be reimbursed
through the BP Grant
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the 2018 General
Fund Whole Town bud;?et as follows:
From:
A.3120.2.500.800 Police/Other Equipment/Light Bars $7,170
A.3130.2.400.300 Bay Constable/Other Equip/Dry Suits/Dive Equip $1,256
Total $8,426
To:
Southold Town Regular Board Meeting
July 31, 2018 page 14
A.3120.2.500.700 Police/Police Equip/Other Equip/Soft Body Armor $7,170
A.3130.2.400.700 Bay Constable, BC Equip/Other Equip/Soft Body Armor $1,256
Total $8,426
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2018-710
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled _. -.- -..-.
❑ Withdrawn James Dmizio Jr Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt Welham P Ruland Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2018-711
CATEGORY: Contracts,Lease&Agreements
DEPARTMENT: Town Attorney
Living Shoreline Demonstration Project with Cornell Cooperative Extension Contract
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold authorizes the Town Supervisor to
execute a contract with Cornell Cooperative Exchange in furtherance of Living Shoreline
Demonstration Project for$117,600, of which $58,800 is sourced from Suffolk County Grant
funds and $58,800 will be a donation of in kind services from Cornell Cooperative Exchange to
the Town of Southold, subject to approval from the Town Attorney.
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2018-711
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled
❑ Withdrawn James Dmizio Jr Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt William P Roland Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
0 Lost
Southold Town Regular Board Meeting
July 31, 2018 page 15
2018-712
CATEGORY: Budget Modification
DEPARTMENT.• Accounting
2018 Budget Modification-Capital
Financial Impact:Establish budget for Carroll Ave Purchase
WHEREAS the Town Board of the Town of Southold adopted a bond resolution for the
purchase of property, and
WHEREAS the Town's Capital Budget process requires a resolution to formally establish
Capital Budget items in the Capital Fund, now therefore be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the
establishment of the following Capital Proiects and amends the Capital Budget as follows:
Capital Project Name: Carroll Ave Acquisition
Financing Method: Serial Bonds/Transfer from GFWT
Budget: Revenues:
H.5031.16 Interfund Transfer,
Property Acquisitions $6,000
H.5710.16 Serial Bonds, Property Acquis 750,000
Total $756,000
Appropriations:
H.1620.2.400.500 Carroll Ave Acquisition $756,000
Total $756,000
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2018-712
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated
❑ Tabled
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
_
❑ Withdrawn James Dmizio Jr Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt William P Ruland Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter 2 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
0 Lost
Southold Town Regular Board Meeting
July 31, 2018 page 16
2018-713
CATEGORY Budget Modification
DEPARTMENT. Accounting
2018 Budget Modification- General Fund
Financial Impact: Transfer funds to Capital for additional costs for Carroll Ave acquisition
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the 2018 General
Fund Whole Town budget as follows:
From:
A.1620.2.400.400 Buildings & Grounds, Building Rentals $6,000
Total $6,000
To:
A.9901.9.000.100 Interfund Transfers,
Transfer to Capital $6,000
Total $6,000
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2018-713
19 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated --
1:1 Tabled --
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
___ .-
❑ Withdrawn James Dmizio Jr Voter ❑ _❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt William P Ruland Seconder lZ ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Mover CEJ ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Voter Rl ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A.Russell Voter D ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2018-714
CATEGORY: Contracts,Lease &Agreements
DEPARTMEI'VP Town Attorney
Contract of Sale Capital One National
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby ratifies the execution of the
Contract of Sale with Capital One National Association, for the purchase of the 54375 Main
Road, Southold, New York, SCTM #1000-61-2-012.002, subject to the approval of the Town
Attorney.
Southold Town Regular Board Meeting
July 31, 2018 page 17
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2018-714
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled
❑ Withdrawn James Duuzio Jr Voter D ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt William P Ruland Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter D ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2018-715
CATEGORY:- Contracts, Lease &Agreements
DEPARTMENT. Town Attorney
Contract of Sale Carroll Avenue
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby ratifies the execution of the
Contract of Sale with Sandra J. Midgley, as Executor of the Estate of William S. Midgley, Jr., for
the purchase of the 1080 Carroll Avenue, Peconic,New York, SCTM#1000-75-01-06, subject to
the approval of the Town Attorney.
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2018-715
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated - -
Yes/Aye No/Nay � Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled _
❑ Withdrawn James Dmizio Jr Voter lZ ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt William P Ruland Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P.Evans Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Acton
❑ Lost
2018-716
CATEGORY. Employment -Town
DEPARTMENT. ACC011lltlllg
Southold Town Regular Board Meeting
July 31, 2018 page 18
Acknowledges the Intent to Retire Janice L. Foglia
WHEREAS,the Town of Southold has received notification via U.S. Mail on July 27, 2018
from the NYS Retirement System concerning the retirement of Janice L. Foglia effective
October 13, 2018 now therefore be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby acknowled1zes the intent to
retire of Janice L. Foglia from the position of Payroll Supervisor for the AccountinIz &
Finance Department, effective October 13, 2018.
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2018-716
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated — -
El Tabled
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Withdrawn .Tames Dmizio Jr Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt William P Ruland Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
11 Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2018-717
CATEGORY.° Employment-Town
DEPARTMENT: Accounting
Accepts Resignation of Gary Rempel
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the resignation of
Gary Rempel from the position of part time Mini Bus Driver for the Human Resource Center
effective August 10, 2018.
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2018-717
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Defeated
❑ Tabled James Dmizio Jr Mover ; 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Withdrawn William P Ruland Voter 0 ❑ El
❑ Supervisor's Appt Jill Doherty Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
Robert Ghosio Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt
❑ Rescinded Louisa P Evans Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Scott A Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hg%vys Appt
0 No Action
Southold Town Regular Board Meeting
July 31, 2018 page 19
❑ Lost
2018-718
CATEGORY: Contracts, Lease&Agreements
DEPARTMENT. Town Attorney
STOP-DWI Agreement W/Suffolk County for 2017-21
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs
Supervisor Scott A. Russell to execute an Agreement with the County of Suffolk for the STOP-
DWI Program in an amount not to exceed$95,000, $19,000 for each calendar year of the
contract for the term January 1, 2017 through December 31, 2021, subject to the approval of the
Town Attorney.
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2018-718
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated -
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled
❑ Withdrawn James Dinizio Jr Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt William P Ruland Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Mover 0 El 11
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P.Evans Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2018-719
CATEGORY.• Contracts, Lease&Agreements
DEPARTMENT.• Town Attorney
CDW Direct LLC Agreement
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs
Supervisor Scott A. Russell to execute a one year agreement with CDW Direct LLC, to renew
the Town's utilization of CDW's Cradlepoint Data Processing service at a cost of$476.00 for the
year, subject to approval by the Town Attorney.
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2018-719
0 Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
Southold Town Regular Board Meeting
July 31, 2018 page 20
❑ Adopted as Amended James Dinizio Jr Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Defeated William P.Ruland Mover i 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tabled Jill Doherty Voter 1 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Withdrawn Robert Ghosio Voter ' 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt Louisa P Evans Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Scott A Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded
❑ Town Clerk's Appt
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2018-720
CATEGORY. Refund
DEPART MIENT• Town Clerk
Refund of Parking/Trailer Permit
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes a refund to the
following individual(s) in the amount of$20.00 for the purchase of resident parking permit:
Danielle M Rodger
611 1St Street
Greenport,NY 11944
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2018-720
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled _ _ _.
❑ Withdrawn James Dinizio Jr Voter R1 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt William P Ruland Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
El Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Voter 0 El El
Robert Ghosio Seconder 0 El ❑
❑ Rescinded
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A.Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2018-721
CATEGORY.• Budget Modification
DEPARTMENT. Justice Court
Southold Town Regular Board Meeting
July 31, 2018 page 21
2018 Budget Modification-Justice Court
Financial Impact: To cover the purchase of equipment from the JCAP award
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the 2018 General
Fund Whole Town budget as follows:
To:
A.1110.2.500.600 Justice Court,
Security Equipment $3,825.00
From:
A.1110.1.100.200 Justice Court,
FT Employees, Overtime Earnings $3,825.00
To:
A.1110.2.100.100 Justice Court,
Furniture, Desks $1,940.00
From:
A.1110.4.400.500 Justice Court,
Parking Ticket Servicing $1,940.00
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2018-721
Fl Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled
❑ Withdrawn James Dmizio Jr I Voter D ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt William P Ruland Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Mover Q ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter El ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2018-722
CATEf:ORY.• Ratify Fishers Island Reso.
DEPARTMENT: Fishers Island Ferry District
FIFD 7123118 Meeting Resolution Ratifications
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby ratifies and approves the
resolutions of the Fishers Island Ferry District Board of Commissioners dated July 23, 2018, as
follows:
Southold Town Regular Board Meeting
July 31, 2018 page 22
FIFD resolution# Regarding
2018 ? 139 Edwards settlement
2018 ? 140 HHC Transportation
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2018-722
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled
❑ Withdrawn James Dmizio Jr Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt William P Ruland Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P.Evans Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2018-723
CATEGORY. Contracts,Lease&Agreements
DEPARTMENT.• Engineering
Award Love Lane Trak Study to AKRF
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs
Supervisor Scott A. Russell to enter into a professional services contract with AKRF for the
completion of the Love Lane Traffic Study at a cost not to exceed $24,500, as outlined in the
expanded approach of their proposal dated July 25, 2018, all in accordance with the Town
Attorney.
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2018-723
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated -
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled
❑ Withdrawn James Dimzio Jr Voter 0 ❑ ❑ 0
❑ Supervisor's Appt William P Ruland Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P.Evans Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt HBwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
0 Lost
Southold Town Regular Board Meeting
July 31, 2018 page 23
2018-724
CATEC®R Y. Refund
DEPARTMENT.• Town Clerk
Various Clean Up Deposits
WHEREAS the following groups have supplied the Town of Southold with a refundable Clean-
up Deposit fee, for their events and
WHEREAS the Southold Town Police Chief, Martin Flatley, has informed the Town Clerk's
office that this fee may be refunded, now therefor be it
RESOLVED that Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes a refund be issued in
the amount of the deposit made to the following
Name Date Received Amount of Deposit
Mattituck Chamber of Commerce 4/23/18 250.00
PO Box 1056
Mattituck,NY 11952
Cutchogue New Suff. Historical Council 5/9/18 250.00
PO Box 714
Cutchogue,NY 11935
North Fork Country Club 4/19/18 250.00
PO Box 725
Cutchogue,NY 11935
Greek Orthodox Church of the 6/29/18 250.00
Transfiguration Inc
PO Box 1162
Mattituck NY 11952
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2018-724
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated -
❑ Tabled
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
_ _
❑ Withdrawn James Dmizio Jr Voter ❑ 11
❑ Supervisor's Appt William P.Ruland Mover D ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Voter D ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
0 Lost
Southold Town Regular Board Meeting
July 31, 2018 page 24
2018-725
CATEGORY: Contracts, Lease&Agreements
DEPARTMENT: Engineering
Award Consultant Services for Asbestos Removal to Enviroscience Consultants Inc.
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs
Supervisor Scott A. Russell to enter into a professional services contract with Enviroscience
Consultants Inc. for consultant services related to the removal of asbestos from the building
commonly referred to as the Old Highway Department Maintenance and Storage Building at a
cost not to exceed $17,850, as outlined in their proposal dated July 25, 2018, all in accordance
with the Town Attorney.
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2018-725
1 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled
❑ Withdrawn James Dmizio Jr Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt William P Ruland Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2018-726
CATEGORY: Budget Modification
DEPARTMENT• Accounting
2018 Budget Modification-Engineering
Financial Impact:Move budget for asbestos engineering contract
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the 2018 General
Fund Whole Town budget as follows:
From:
A.1440.4.500.100 Engineering Surveys $20,000
Total $20,000
Southold Town Regular Board Meeting
July 31, 2018 page 25
To:
A.1440.4.500.400 Engineering Services $20,000
Total $20,000
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2018-726
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled
❑ Withdrawn James Dmizio Jr Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt William P Ruland Voter 0 ❑ El
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2018-727
CATEGORY.- Refund
DEPARTMENT. Town Clerk
Refund Parking Permit-Fujita
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes a refund of$40.00
to Kenji Fujita 1655 Parkway Southold,NY 11971 for duplicate parking permits purchased in
error.
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2018-727
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated
11 Tabled
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
_
❑ Withdrawn James Dmizio.Jr Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt William P Ruland Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2018-728
Southold Town Regular Board Meeting
July 31, 2018 page 26
CATEGORY: Grants
DEPARTMENT. Town Attorney
Peconic Land Trust Grant Application/Wolf Preserve
WHEREAS, the Peconic Land Trust is applying to the New York State Office of Parks,
Recreation and Historic Preservation (OPRHP) for a grant under the Environmental Protection
Fund for a park project to be located at the Wolf Preserve, a site located within the Town of
Southold, and
WHEREAS, as a requirement under the rules of this program, Peconic Land Trust must obtain
the"approval/endorsement of the governing body of the municipality in which the project will be
located";
NOW, THEREFORE, be it resolved that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby does
approve and endorse the application of Peconic Land Trust for a grant under the Environmental
Protection Fund for a park project known as Wolf Preserve.,
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2018-728
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled
❑ Withdrawn James Dmizio Jr Voter 0 ❑
❑ ❑ �
❑ Supervisor's Appt William P Roland Seconder; 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2018-729
CATEGORY.- Enact Local Law
DEPARTMENT.• Town Clerk
Enact Local Law Rental Permits
WHEREAS, there has been presented to the Town Board of the Town of Southold, Suffolk
County,New York, on the 19th day of June, 2018, a Local Law entitled "A Local Law in relation
to Rental Permits" and
WHEREAS the Town Board of the Town of Southold held a public hearing on the aforesaid
Local Law at which time all interested persons will be given an opportunity to be heard,NOW
therefor be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby ENACTS the proposed Local
Southold Town Regular Board Meeting
July 31, 2018 page 27
Law entitled, "A Local Law in relation to Rental Permits" reads as follows:
LOCAL LAW NO. 2018
BE IT ENACTED by the Town Board of the Town of Southold as follows:
I. A new Chapter 207 of the Code of the Town of Southold is hereby adopted as
follows:
A Local Law entitled, "A Local Law in relation to Rental Permits"
207-1 Legislative intent.
A. The intent of this chapter is to preserve the aesthetic integrity of our residential
neighborhoods, prevent neighborhood blight, protect residential property values,
encourage residential property maintenance and enhance the quality of life in our
residential neighborhoods.
B. This chapter is intended to apply to all dwelling units within the Town of Southold.
The Town Board of the Town of Southold has determined that there exists in the
Town of Southold serious conditions arising from non-owner occupied rental of
dwelling units in one, two and three family and multiple dwellings that are
substandard or in violation of the New York State Uniform Fire Prevention and
Building Code,Building Rehabilitation Code,Electrical Code, Fire Prevention Code,
Plumbing Code, and other codes and ordinances of the Town. Many of these dwellings
are inadequate in size, overcrowded and dangerous, and such dwelling units pose
hazards to life, limb and property of residents of the Town and others, tend to
promote and encourage deterioration of the housing stock of the Town, create blight
and excessive vehicle traffic and parking problems and to overburden municipal
services. The Board finds that current Code provisions are inadequate to halt the
proliferation of such conditions and that the public health, safety,welfare and good
order and governance of the Town will be enhanced by enactment of the regulations
set forth in this chapter,which regulations are remedial in nature and effect. The
Board also finds that owner occupied dwellings can also fall into disrepair and not be
adequately maintained,which has a detrimental effect on neighborhoods.
C. Nothing herein shall interpreted to supersede any requirements contained in Chapter
280 or any other chapter of the Town Code of the Town of Southold.
§ 207-2 Definitions.
As used in this chapter, the following terms shall have the meanings indicated:
CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL - The official who is charged by the Town Board
with the administration and enforcement of this chapter, or any duly authorized
representative of such person, including but not limited to the Building Inspector,
Chief Building Inspector, Principal Building Inspector, Senior Building Inspector,
Building Permits Examiner, Zoning Inspector, Electrical Inspector, Plumbing
Inspector, Fire Marshal, Fire Marshal I, Fire Marshal II, Chief Fire Marshal, Town
Investigator, Senior Town Investigator, Ordinance Enforcement Officer or
Southold Town Regular Board Meeting
July 31, 2018 page 28
Ordinance Inspector of the Town of Southold, Stormwater Manager, Town
Engineer and such person(s) shall be certified as a New York State Code
Enforcement Official; Code Enforcement Officer.
DWELLING -A building designed exclusively for residential purposes.
DWELLING, MULTIPLE-FAMILY -A building, other than a or apartment house,
designed for and occupied as a residence by three or more families living
independently of each other. ,
DWELLING, ONE-FAMILY -A detached building designed for and occupied exclusively
as a home or residence by not more than one family.
DWELLING, TWO-FAMILY- A building arranged, designed for or occupied exclusively
as a home or residence for not more than two families living independently of each
other.
DWELLING UNIT - A single unit within a building or structure providing complete
independent living facilities for one or more persons, including permanent
provisions for living, sleeping, eating, cooking and sanitation.
IMMEDIATE FAMILY- The immediate family of the owner of a housing unit consists of
the owner's spouse, domestic partner, children, parents, grandparents or
grandchildren, siblings, uncles, aunts, nieces, nephews, cousins and in-laws.
OWNER-Any person, partnership, corporation or other entity who, alone or iointly with
others, shall have legal title to any premises,with or without accompanying actual
possession thereof; or who shall have charge, care or control of any dwelling unit as
a cooperative shareholder or as executor, administrator, trustee, receiver or
guardian of the estate or as a mortgagee in possession, title or control; including but
not limited to a bank or lending institution, regardless of how such possession, title
or control was obtained.
RENT -A return, in money, property or other valuable consideration (including payment
in kind or for services or other thing of value), for use and occupancy or the right to
use and occupancy of a dwelling unit,whether or not a legal relationship of landlord
and tenant exists between the owner and the occupant or occupants thereof.
RENTAL DWELLING UNIT -A dwelling unit established, occupied, used or maintained
for rental occupancy
RENTAL OCCUPANCY -The occupancy or use of a dwelling unit by one or more persons
as a home or residence under an arrangement whereby the occupant or occupants
thereof pay rent for such occupancy and use.
RENTAL OCCUPANCY PERMIT -A permit which is issued upon application to the Code
Enforcement Officer designated by the Town Board with the administration of this
Chapter and shall be valid for 24 months from the date of issuance.
207-3 Neighborhood preservation requirements.
A. Any property subject to the requirements of this chapter shall comply with all
aspects of Chapter 100 of this Code and shall insure that:
1. Steps,walks, driveways, parking areas and other paved areas shall be
maintained in good repair.
2. Yards shall be kept clean and free of physical hazards and debris.
3. Exterior surfaces of any and all dwellings, structures and accessory
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structures, including but not limited to fences that are not inherently
resistant to deterioration, shall be periodically treated with a protective
coating of paint or other suitable preservative. All surfaces shall be
maintained free of deterioration, including but not limited to broken or
missing glass, loose or missing shingles or siding, crumbling brick, stone and
mortar and peeling, scaling or deteriorated paint.
4. Dwellings, structures and accessory structures shall be maintained so as to be
free of conditions detrimental to safety or health.
5. Dwellings, structures, accessory structures and property shall be maintained
free of vermin, rodent harborage and infestation. Methods used for
exterminating vermin and rodents shall conform to Suffolk County Health
Department standards.
6. Adequate sanitary facilities and methods shall be used for the collection,
storage, handling and disposal of garbage and refuse and sewage pursuant to
Suffolk County Health Department standards.
7. Floors,walls, ceilings and fixtures in residential dwellings shall be
maintained in a clean and sanitary condition.
8. No bedroom or sleeping quarters shall have interior key locks or dead bolt
locked doors servicing said bedroom or sleeping quarters.
9. No bedroom shall constitute the only means of access of other bedrooms or
habitable spaces, and bedrooms shall not serve as the only means of egress
from other habitable spaces.
10. Carbon monoxide alarms and detectors shall be installed on every habitable
floor of any dwelling, structure or accessory structure with a carbon
monoxide source, in accordance with the New York State Uniform Fire
Prevention and Building Code and Town Code Chapters 100 and 144.
4 207-4 Fees.
Rental Permit fees to be set by Town Board resolution.
§207-5 Smoke detectors and carbon monoxide detectors.
Each rental dwelling shall be equipped with a functioning smoke detectors and carbon
monoxide detectors, in compliance with New York State Uniform Fire Prevention and
Building Code.
X207-6 Inspections.
A. No permit shall be issued under any application unless all the provisions of the Code
of the Town of Southold, the laws and sanitary and housing regulations of the
County of Wfolk and the laws of the State of New York have been complied with.
B. The Code Enforcement Official is authorized to make or cause to be made
inspections, to determine the condition of dwellings and to safeguard the health,
safety, morals and welfare of the public. The Code Enforcement Official or his
designated representative is authorized to enter the subject premises upon the
consent of the owner.
C. Search without warrant restricted. Nothing in this chapter, except for provisions
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concerning emergency inspections, shall be deemed to authorize the Code
Enforcement Official or his authorized representative to conduct an inspection of
any premises subject to this chapter without the consent of the owner of the
premises or without a warrant duly issued by an appropriate court.
D. Conflict with other chapters or law. Nothing in this chapter shall be construed to
negate the authority for inspections pursuant to any other section of law or court-
ordered inspection.
E. Presumption of rent. Any dwelling, dwelling unit, rooming house, rooming unit or
any other premises subject to this chapter shall be presumed to be rented for a fee
and a charge made if said premises are not occupied by the legal owner thereof. This
Presumption shall be rebuttable.
4207-7 Application for search warrant.
The Code Enforcement Official or his designated representative is authorized to make
application to the Town of Southold Justice Court or Supreme Court of Suffolk County, or
any court of competent jurisdiction, for the issuance of a search warrant in order to
conduct an inspection of any premises covered by this chapter where the owner refuses or
fails to allow an inspection of its rental premises and where there is reasonable cause to
believe that a violation of this chapter has occurred. The application for a search warrant
shall in all respects comply with the applicable laws of the State of New York.
X207-8 Rental permit required.
A. It shall be unlawful for any rental occupancy to exist in any dwelling without the
owner's first having obtained a rental permit from the Code Enforcement Official.
1. It shall be an affirmative defense to a violation of Subsection A of this section
that the rental occupant or occupants is/are immediate family members of
the owner of the subject premises, as defined in this chapter.
B. Application review; inspection of premises.
1. The Code Enforcement Official or his designee shall review each application
for completeness and reject incomplete applications.
2. Inspection report. The owner of the rental dwelling unit shall (1) arrange for
an inspection of the unit or units and the premises on which the same are
located by the Code Enforcement Official or his designee employed by the
Town of Southold, or(2) provide to the Code Enforcement Official an
inspection report provided by the Town, signed by either a New York State
licensed professional engineer,New York State licensed architect or home
inspector who has a valid New York State Uniform Fire Prevention Building
Code certification that the structure and the dwelling units contained therein
meet all applicable housing, sanitary, building, electrical and fire codes, rules
and regulations.
C. Rental permit requirements.
1. Rental permit applications shall be in writing on a form provided by the
Town and shall include the owner's name, address and telephone number.
2. Rental permits shall also include the maximum number of persons that are
allowed to occupy the premises pursuant to this chapter.
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3. Rental permits shall contain a description of the unit, including the number
of rooms in the rental dwelling unit, and the dimensions and use of each
such room shall be included. The name, address and telephone number, if
any, of the managing agent or operator of each such intended rental dwelling
unit shall be included.
4. All applicants must submit a sworn statement that to the best of their
knowledge there are no existing or outstanding violations of any federal, state
or county laws or rules or regulations or of any Town of Southold local laws
or ordinances pertaining to the property.
5. All applicants for a rental permit shall sign an affidavit stating that they have
received a copy of and fully understand the Southold Town Code concerning
the restrictions on the number of unrelated persons occupying said residence.
6. All applicants must submit the following documents:
(a) Copies of all certificates of occupancy and/or pre-certificates of
occupancy for all buildings and structures on the property;
(b) An affidavit setting forth the address to be used as the last known
address of the owner for service pursuant to all applicable laws and
rules. The owner shall notify the Code Enforcement Official of any
change of address submitted pursuant to this section within five
business days of any change thereto, and ;
•(c) At the discretion of the Code Enforcement Official, an accurate
property survey of the premises prepared by a licensed surveyor
drawn to scale not greater than 40 feet to one inch, or, if not shown on
the survey, a site plan prepared by a licensed surveyor or engineer,
drawn to scale, showing all buildings, structures,walks, drives and
other physical features of the premises and the number, location and
access of existing and proposed on-site vehicle parking facilities
7. Each application shall be executed and sworn to by the owner of the
premises.
8. Any additional information required by the Code Enforcement Official.
9. All rental properties containing eight or more rental units shall provide for a
designated site manager,who shall be available to address and resolve any
issues with the property 24 hours a day. The owner of the property must file
the manager's address, telephone number and other contact information
with the Code Enforcement Official within five days of the designation of the
manager or any changes thereto.
D. Notwithstanding the above, no rental occupancy permit shall be required for a
residential care facility licensed under federal,New York State or Suffolk County
guidelines.
E. Renewal of rental permits.
1. A renewal rental permit application signed by the owner shall be completed
and filed with the Code Enforcement Official on or 90 days prior to the
expiration date of any valid rental permit. A renewal rental permit
application shall contain a copy of the prior rental permit.
2. A renewal rental permit application shall contain a signed sworn statement
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setting forth the following:
(a) That there are no existing or outstanding violations of any federal,
state or county laws or rules or regulations or of any Town of
Southold local laws or ordinances pertaining to the property; and
(b) That there are no changes to any information as provided on the prior
valid rental permit and application.
3. Prior to the issuance of a renewal rental permit, the owner shall cause an
inspection of the unit or units and the premises on which the same are
located to take place pursuant to Subsection C(2) above.
4. The Town of Southold shall not accept, review or approve any renewal rental
applications for dwellings wherein the prior rental permit expiration date
has passed. If the expiration date has passed,the owner must file a new
application.
F. Registered motor vehicle restrictions.
1. Each rental dwelling shall be entitled to have one registered motor vehicle for
each legally designated bedroom, as determined by the Code Enforcement
Official, as well as one additional registered motor vehicle.
§207-9 Revocation of permit.
A. The Code Enforcement Official may revoke a rental occupancy permit where he or
she finds that the permit holder has caused, permitted, suffered or allowed to exist
and remain upon the premises for which such permit has been issued, for a period
of 14 business days or more after written, return receipt requested notice and
opportunity to be heard has been given to the permit holder, or the managing agent
of such rental dwelling unit, a violation of the Multiple Residence Law and/or New
York State Uniform Fire Prevention and Building Code or a violation of this
chapter or other chapter of the Town Code. Revocation of a permit under this
subsection cannot be done by a devisee or assistant of the Code Enforcement
Official.
B. An appeal from such revocation may be taken by the permit holder to the Town
Board, by written request, made within 30 days from the date of such revocation.
The Town Board shall hold a public hearing on such appeal after receipt of written
request of such appeal, and after such hearing shall make written findings and
conclusions and a decision either sustaining such permit revocation or reinstating
such permit within 30 days after close of such public hearing. Unless the Town
Board directs otherwise in circumstances constituting serious threats to health and
safety, the filing of an appeal shall stay the effectiveness of a permit revocation until
the Town Board has considered and ruled upon the issue.
C. Any permit holder that takes an appeal to the Town Board from the revocation of a
rental permit shall be required to pay an administrative fee$200.00 to the Town
Clerk with the written request for the appeal.
§207-10 Broker's/Agent's responsibility.
A. Broker's/Agent's responsibility prior to listing. No Real Estate Broker or agent shall
list or otherwise advertise, or offer for lease any rental dwelling unit for which a
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current rental permit has not been issued by the Code Enforcement Official.
§207-11 Enforcement.
This chapter shall be enforced by the Code Enforcement Officer as defined by this chapter.
X207-12 Penalties for offenses.
A. Any person, association, firm or corporation which violates any provision of this
chapter or assists in the violation of any provision of this chapter shall be guilty of a
violation, punishable:
1. By a fine not less than $500 and not exceeding $5,000 or by imprisonment for
a period not to exceed 15 days, or both, for conviction of a first offense.
2. By a fine not less than $1,000 nor more than $10,000 or by imprisonment for
a period not to exceed 15 days, or both, for conviction of the second of the
two offenses, both of which were committed within a period of five years.
B. Each week's continued violation shall constitute a separate additional violation.
C. This section is enacted pursuant to Municipal Home Rule Law § 10(1)(H) a(9-a) and
§
10(1)ONO) and pursuant to 10(5) of the Statute of Local Governments, and is
intended to supersede Town Law § 268 and any other statute or local law to the
extent necessary to increase the minimum and maximum penalties contained
therein.
§207-13 Implementation.
III. Severability.
If any clause, sentence, paragraph, section or part of this chapter shall be adjudged by any
court of competent jurisdiction to be invalid, such judgment shall not affect, impair or
invalidate the remainder thereof, but shall be confined in its operation to the clause,
sentence, paragraph, section or part thereof directly involved in said judgment.
IV. Effective Date.
This chapter shall be effective upon filing with the Secretary of State. Applications for a
rental permit shall be accepted upon the effective date of this chapter. However, in order
to afford property owners a sufficient amount of time to apply for and obtain a rental
permit as set forth herein, no violation of this chapter will be charged prior to August 1,
2019.
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❑ Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Adopted as Amended James Dimzio Jr ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Defeated =
❑ Tabled William P Ruland ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Withdrawn Jill Doherty ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt Robert Ghosio ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt
❑ Rescinded Louisa P Evans ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑
0 Town Clerk's Appt Scott A Russell 0 ❑ 0 ❑
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❑ Supt Hgwys Appt
0 No Action
❑ Lost
Comments after Rental Permit Public Hearing
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: Thank you everyone for coming out.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Everything will be seriously considered. we are not sloughing this
off. We listened to you guys, we listened the last time, we will listen this time. But you need to
understand, we have some challenges too and to say we just can't, you know, we don't need a
rental code I don't think in this day and age is just necessarily accurate anymore. Yes, please?
JACK REARDON: I'm just looking for the next meeting where this is going to be addressed?
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: At this point we don't know, we are going to, it might be in
two weeks, it depends. We will have to discuss where we want to go from here.
MR. REARDON: Okay.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: We have actually, it's a bit of off-schedule because our next meeting
is going to be on Fishers Island, so we do want to get input from Fishers Island and it will be
scheduled for the following meeting, I can tell you the date right now,the 14th....
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: Is that the 14th? August 14th.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Okay, so it will be on the agenda for August 14th, whether it's going
to be, we would have to take a formal action to remove it, to vote it down or to approve it...
MR. REARDON: I am sorry, you would or you would not?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: We would have to because it's already been a closed hearing, we
would have to take some sort of formal action. Whether it's to vote it up or to vote it down in
two weeks.
MR. REARDON: Is one option to table it as opposed to up or down?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: We closed the hearing and quite honestly, after a public hearing you
ought to have an understanding as a legislator whether the code is good or not. Rather than
tabling a law that we've already closed the hearing on, if we decide the law is not sufficient,
scrap and draft a new one. Or if we decide it's sufficient, you adopt it. Tabling wouldn't get you
anywhere:
MR. REARDON: Alright. Thank you.
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SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Tom?
MR. MCCARTHY: Tom McCarthy, thank you for listening to all of us. I volunteer, if you are
going to put a committee together, I volunteer to be part of that committee and I also volunteer to
bring in other professionals who are in the real estate business and other concerned citizens and
try to gather some of those voices and bring you feedback before we get to this point again and
to be part of the solution.
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: Thank you. Thank you for the input you have given us
already.
2018-730
CATEGORY. Enact Local Law
DEPARTMENT Town Clerk
Enact Local Law-Helicopters
WHEREAS there has been presented to the Town Board of the Town of Southold, Suffolk
County,New York, on the 3rd day of July, 2018, a Local Law entitled "A Local Law in
relation to Amendments to Chapter 280, `Zoning' with regard to Helicopters" and
WHEREAS the Town Board of the Town of Southold held a public hearing on the aforesaid
Local Law at which time all interested persons will be given an opportunity to be heard, now
therefor be it.
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby ENACTS the proposed Local
Law entitled, "A Local Law in relation to Amendments to Chapter 280, `Zoning' with
regard to Helicopters"reads as follows:
LOCAL LAW NO. 9 of 2018
A Local Law entitled, "A Local Law in relation to Amendments to Chapter 280, `Zoning'
with-regard to Helicopters".
BE IT ENACTED by the Town Board of the Town of Southold as follows:
I. Purpose.
To modify and clarify certain provision of the Town Code as it pertains to helicopters in
order to better protect the quality of life enjoyed by Southold Town residents.
II. Chapter 280 of the Code of the Town of Southold is hereby amended as follows:
§ 280-13 Use regulations.
[Amended 3-14-1989 by L.L. No. 3-19891
In A-C, R-80, R-120, R-200 and R-400 Districts, no building or premises shall be used and no
building or part of a building shall be erected or altered which is arranged, intended or designed
to be used, in whole or in part, for any uses except the following:
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A. Permitted uses. [Amended 5-23-1989 by L.L. No. 8-1989; 11-29-1994 by L.L. No. 25-
1994; 11-29-1994 by L.L. No. 26-1994; 5-13-1997 by L.L. No. 8-1997; 7-17-2007 by
L.L. No. 15-2007; 6-15-2010 by L.L. No. 2-2010]
B. Uses permitted by special exception by the Board of Appeals. The following uses are
permitted as special exception by the Board of Appeals, as hereinafter provided, and, except
for the uses set forth in Subsections B(1), (13) and (14)hereof, are subject to site plan
approval by the Planning Board: [Amended 3-14-1989 by L.L. No. 3-1989; 5-20-1993 by
L.L. No. 6-1993; 12-21-1993 by L.L. No. 3-1989; 11-29-1994 by L.L. No. 26-1994; 12-
27-1994 by L.L. No. 30-1994; 2-7-1995 by L.L. No. 3-1995; 11-12-1996 by L.L. No. 20-
1996; 11-12-1997 by L.L. No. 26-1997; 12-8-1998 by L.L. No. 26-1998; 10-25-2005 by
L.L. No. 18-2005; 6-15-2010 by L.L.No. 2-2010]
C. Accessory uses, limited to the following uses and subject to the conditions listed in § 280-
15 herein:
(12) Use of aircraft in agricultural operations, provided that:
(a) the use has been granted a special exception from the Zoning Board of
Appeals.
(b) in addition to the criteria for a special exception set forth in $$
280-142 7 143, the ZBA shall considering the following criteria:
(1) the anticipated frequency of flights
(2) the location of the proposed landing and take-off zone
(3) the location of residences
(4) the type of aircraft being used
(c) Notwithstanding the forgoing, the use of aircraft shall be limited to
spraying crops, surveying, fields and transporting employees and
shall not be used for transporting non-employees to and from the
subiect premises.
Article XXII. Supplementary Regulations
§ 280-111. Prohibited uses in all districts.
[Amended 11-24-1992 by L.L.No. 26-1992; 8-8-2006 by L.L. No. 7-2015; 8-25-2015 by L.L.
No. 7-2015]
C. Uses involving primary production of the following products from raw materials:
charcoal and fuel briquettes; chemicals; aniline dyes; carbide; caustic soda; cellulose;
chlorine; carbon black and bone black; creosote; hydrogen and oxygen; industrial
alcohol; nitrates of an explosive nature; potash; plastic materials and synthetic resins;
pyroxylin; rayon yarn; hydrochloric, nitric, phosphoric, picric and sulfuric acids; coal,
coke and tar products, including gas manufacturing; explosives; gelatin, glue and size
(animal); linoleum and oil cloth; matches; paint, varnishes and turpentine; rubber(natural
or synthetic); soaps, including fat rendering; starch.
D The following processes:
(1) Nitrating of cotton or of other materials.
(2) Milling or processing of flour.
(3) Magnesium foundry.
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(4) Reduction,refining, smelting and alloying metal or metal ores.
(5) Refining secondary aluminum.
(6) Refining petroleum products, such as gasolines, kerosene, naphtha and lubricating
oil.
(7) Distillation of wood or bones.
(8) Reduction and processing of wood pulp and fiber, including paper mill
operations.
E. Operations involving stockyards, slaughterhouses and slag piles.
F. Storage of explosives.
G. Quarries.
H. Storage of petroleum products. Notwithstanding any other provisions of this chapter,
storage facilities with a total combined capacity of more than 20,000 gallons, including
all tanks,pipelines, buildings, structures and accessory equipment designed, used or
intended to be used for the storage of gasoline, fuel oil, kerosene, asphalt or other
petroleum products, shall not be located within 1,000 feet of tidal waters or tidal
wetlands.
I. Encumbrances to public roads.
(1) No person shall intentionally discharge or cause to be discharged any water of any
kind onto a public highway, roadway, right-of-way or sidewalk causing a public
nuisance or hazardous condition, or resulting in flooding or pooling in or around
the public area, including neighboring properties.
(2) No person shall place or cause to be placed obstructions of any kind, except the
lawful parking of registered vehicles, upon a public highway, roadway,
right-of-way or sidewalk that unreasonably interferes with the public's use of the
public highway, roadway,right-of-way or sidewalk.
J. Transient rental properties.
K. Aircraft prohibited.
1. Helicopters prohibited.-No person, firm or corporation, except those with
prior valid approvals, shall land or cause to be landed, take off or cause to
take off or taxi any helicopter on or from the waters, beaches or on any
land within the Town of Southold.
2. Seaplanes prohibited. No person, firm or corporation shall land or cause
to be landed, take off or cause to take off or taxi any seaplane on or from
the waterways under the jurisdiction of the Town of Southold Board of
Trustees.
3. This ordinance shall not apply to Town owned airfields, medical or police
emergency landings and takeoffs or aircraft involved in medical or
military emergencies, or aircraft involved in operations involving public
health and safety.
4. This ordinance shall not apply to the use of aircraft as an accessory use to
asricultural production as set forth in section 280-13(c)(12).
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III. SEVERABILITY
If any clause, sentence, paragraph, section, or part of this Local Law shall be adjudged by any
court of competent jurisdiction to be invalid, the judgment shall not affect the validity of this law
as a whole or any part thereof other than the part so decided to be unconstitutional or invalid.
IV. EFFECTIVE DATE
This Local Law shall take effect immediately upon filing with the Secretary of State as provided
by law.
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2018-730
El Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated
❑ Tabled
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Withdrawn James Dimzio Jr Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt William P Roland Seconder El ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Voter El ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Voter El ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter R1 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
Motion To: Motion to recess to Public Hearing
RESOLVED that this meeting of the Southold Town Board be and hereby is declared
Recessed at 7:46 PM in order to hold a public hearing.
RESULT: ADOPTED [UNANIMOUS]
MOVER: Louisa P. Evans, Justice
SECONDER:William P. Ruland, Councilman
AYES: Dinizio Jr, Ruland, Doherty, Ghosio, Evans, Russell
VI. Public Hearings
1. Ph 7/317:30 Pm -Rental Permit
COUNCILMAN GHOSIO: WHEREAS,there has been resented to the Town Board of the
Town of Southold, Suffolk County,New York, on the 19' day of June, 2018, a Local Law
entitled "A Local Law in relation to Rental Permits"now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Southold will hold a public hearing on the
aforesaid Local Law at the Southold Town Hall, 53095 Main Road, Southold,New York, on the
31St day of July at 7:32 p.m. at which time all interested persons will be given an opportunity to
be heard.
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The proposed Local Law entitled, "A Local Law in relation to Rental Permits" reads as follows:
LOCAL LAV NO. 2018
BE IT ENACTED by the Town Board of the Town of Southold as follows:
I. A new Chapter 207 of the Code of the Town of Southold is hereby adopted as
follows:
A Local Law entitled, "A Local Law in relation to Rental Permits"
§ 207-1 Legislative intent.
A. The intent of this chapter is to preserve the aesthetic integrity of our residential
neighborhoods, prevent neighborhood blight, protect residential property values,
encourage residential property maintenance and enhance the quality of life in our
residential neighborhoods.
B. This chapter is intended to apply to all dwelling units within the Town of Southold.
The Town Board of the Town of Southold has determined that there exists in the
Town of Southold serious conditions arising from non-owner occupied rental of
dwelling units in one, two and three family and multiple dwellings that are
substandard or in violation of the New York State Uniform Fire Prevention and
Building Code, Building Rehabilitation Code, Electrical Code, Fire Prevention Code,
Plumbing Code, and other codes and ordinances of the Town. Many of these dwellings
are inadequate in size, overcrowded and dangerous, and such dwelling units pose
hazards to life, limb and property of residents of the Town and others, tend to
promote and encourage deterioration of the housing stock of the Town, create blight
and excessive vehicle traffic and parking problems and to overburden municipal
services. The Board finds that current Code provisions are inadequate to halt the
proliferation of such conditions and that the public health, safety,welfare and good
order and governance of the Town will be enhanced by enactment of the regulations
set forth in this chapter,which regulations are remedial in nature and effect. The
Board also finds that owner occupied dwellings can also fall into disrepair and not be
adequately maintained,which has a detrimental effect on neighborhoods.
C. Nothing herein shall interpreted to supersede any requirements contained in Chapter
280 or any other chapter of the Town Code of the Town of Southold.
207-2 Definitions.
As used in this chapter, the following terms shall have the meanings indicated:
CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL - The official who is charged by the Town Board
with the administration and enforcement of this chapter, or any duly authorized
representative of such person, including but not limited to the Building Inspector,
Chief Building Inspector, Principal Building Inspector, Senior Building Inspector,
Building Permits Examiner, Zoning Inspector, Electrical Inspector, Plumbing
Inspector, Fire Marshal, Fire Marshal I, Fire Marshal Il, Chief Fire Marshal, Town
Investigator, Senior Town Investigator, Ordinance Enforcement Officer or
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Ordinance Inspector of the Town of Southold, Stormwater Manager, Town
Engineer and such person(s) shall be certified as a New York State Code
Enforcement Official; Code Enforcement Officer.
DWELLING -A building designed exclusively for residential purposes.
DWELLING,MULTIPLE-FAMILY - A building, other than a or apartment house,
designed for and occupied as a residence by three or more families living
independently of each other.
DWELLING, ONE-FAMILY -A detached building designed for and occupied exclusively
as a home or residence by not more than one family.
DWELLING, TWO-FAMILY - A building arranged, designed for or occupied exclusively
as a home or residence for not more than two families living independently of each
other.
DWELLING UNIT - A single unit within a building or structure providing complete
independent living facilities for one or more persons, including permanent
provisions for living, sleeping, eating, cooking and sanitation.
IMMEDIATE FAMILY - The immediate family of the owner of a housing unit consists of
the owner's spouse, domestic partner, children, parents, grandparents or
grandchildren, siblings, uncles, aunts, nieces, nephews, cousins and in-laws.
OWNER-Any person, partnership, corporation or other entity who, alone or iointly with
others, shall have legal title to any premises,with or without accompanying actual
possession thereof; or who shall have charge, care or control of any dwelling unit as
a cooperative shareholder or as executor, administrator, trustee, receiver or
guardian of the estate or as a mortgagee in possession, title or control; including but
not limited to a bank or lending institution, regardless of how such possession, title
or control was obtained.
RENT -A return, in money, property or other valuable consideration (including payment
in kind or for services or other thing of value), for use and occupancy or the right to
use and occupancy of a dwelling unit,whether or not a legal relationship of landlord
and tenant exists between the owner and the occupant or occupants thereof.
RENTAL DWELLING UNIT -A dwelling unit established, occupied, used or maintained
for rental occupancy
RENTAL OCCUPANCY -The occupancy or use of a dwelling unit by one or more persons
as a home or residence under an arrangement whereby the occupant or occupants
thereof pay rent for such occupancy and use.
RENTAL OCCUPANCY PERMIT -A permit which is issued upon application to the Code
Enforcement Officer designated by the Town Board with the administration of this
Chapter and shall be valid for 24 months from the date of issuance.
§ 207-3 Neighborhood preservation requirements.
A. Any property subject to the requirements of this chapter shall comply with all
aspects of Chapter 100 of this Code and shall insure that:
1. Steps,walks, driveways, parking areas and other paved areas shall be
maintained in good repair.
2. Yards shall be kept clean and free of physical hazards and debris.
3. Exterior surfaces of any and all dwellings, structures and accessory
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structures, including but not limited to fences that are not inherently
resistant to deterioration, shall be periodically treated with a protective
coating of paint or other suitable preservative. All surfaces shall be
maintained free of deterioration, including but not limited to broken or
missing glass, loose or missing shingles or siding, crumbling brick, stone and
mortar and peeling, scaling or deteriorated paint.
4. Dwellings, structures and accessory structures shall be maintained so as to be
free of conditions detrimental to safety or health.
5. Dwellings, structures, accessory structures and property shall be maintained
free of vermin, rodent harborage and infestation. Methods used for
exterminating vermin and rodents shall conform to Suffolk County Health
Department standards.
6. Adequate sanitary facilities and methods shall be used for the collection,
storage, handling and disposal of garbage and refuse and sewage pursuant to
Suffolk County Health Department standards.
7. Floors,walls, ceilings and fixtures in residential dwellings shall be
maintained in a clean and sanitary condition.
8. No bedroom or sleeping quarters shall have interior key locks or dead bolt
locked doors servicing said bedroom or sleeping quarters.
9. No bedroom shall constitute the only means of access of other bedrooms or
habitable spaces, and bedrooms shall not serve as the only means of egress
from other habitable spaces.
10. Carbon monoxide alarms and detectors shall be installed on every habitable
floor of any dwelling, structure or accessory structure with a carbon
monoxide source, in accordance with the New York State Uniform Fire
Prevention and Building Code and Town Code Chapters 100 and 144.
§207-4 Fees.
Rental Permit fees to be set by Town Board resolution.
4207-5 Smoke detectors and carbon monoxide detectors.
Each rental dwelling shall be equipped with a functioning smoke detectors and carbon
monoxide detectors, in compliance with New York State Uniform Fire Prevention and
Building Code.
X207-6 Inspections.
A. No permit shall be issued under any application unless all the provisions of the Code
of the Town of Southold, the laws and sanitary and housing regulations of the
County of Suffolk and the laws of the State of New York have been complied with.
B. The Code Enforcement Official is authorized to make or cause to be made
inspections, to determine the condition of dwellings and to safeguard the health,
safety, morals and welfare of the public. The Code Enforcement Official or his
designated representative is authorized to enter the subject premises upon the
consent of the owner.
C. Search without warrant restricted. Nothing in this chapter, except for provisions
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concerning emergency inspections, shall be deemed to authorize the Code
Enforcement Official or his authorized representative to conduct an inspection of
any premises subiect to this chapter without the consent of the owner of the
premises or without a warrant duly issued by an appropriate court.
A Conflict with other chapters or law. Nothing in this chapter shall be construed to
negate the authority for inspections pursuant to any other section of law or court-
ordered inspection.
E. Presumption of rent. Any dwelling, dwelling unit, rooming house, rooming unit or
any other premises subject to this chapter shall be presumed to be rented for a fee
and a charge made if said premises are not occupied by the legal owner thereof. This
presumption shall be rebuttable.
X207-7 Application for search warrant.
The Code Enforcement Official or his designated representative is authorized to make
application to the Town of Southold Justice Court or Supreme Court of Suffolk County, or
any court of competent jurisdiction, for the issuance of a search warrant in order to
conduct an inspection of any premises covered by this chapter where the owner refuses or
fails to allow an inspection of its rental premises and where there is reasonable cause to
believe that a violation of this chapter has occurred. The application for a search warrant
shall in all respects comply with the applicable laws of the State of New York.
§207-8 Rental permit required.
A. It shall be unlawful for any rental occupancy to exist in any dwelling without the
owner's first having obtained a rental permit from the Code Enforcement Official.
1. It shall be an affirmative defense to a violation of Subsection A of this section
that the rental occupant or occupants is/are immediate family members of
the owner of the subject premises, as defined in this chapter.
B. Application review; inspection of premises.
1. The Code Enforcement Official or his designee shall review each application
for completeness and reject incomplete applications.
2. Inspection report. The owner of the rental dwelling unit shall (1) arrange for
an inspection of the unit or units and the premises on which the same are
located by the Code Enforcement Official or his designee employed by the
Town of Southold, or (2) provide to the Code Enforcement Official an
inspection report provided by the Town, signed by either a New York State
licensed professional engineer, New York State licensed architect or home
inspector who has a valid New York State Uniform Fire Prevention Building
Code certification that the structure and the dwelling units contained therein
meet all applicable housing, sanitary, building, electrical and fire codes, rules
and regulations.
C. Rental permit requirements.
1. Rental permit applications shall be in writing on a form provided by the
Town and shall include the owner's name, address and telephone number.
2. Rental permits shall also include the maximum number of persons that are
allowed to occupy the premises pursuant to this chapter.
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3. Rental permits shall contain a description of the unit, including the number
of rooms in the rental dwelling unit, and the dimensions and use of each
such room shall be included. The name, address and telephone number, if
any, of the managing agent or operator of each such intended rental dwelling
unit shall be included.
4. All applicants must submit a sworn statement that to the best of their
knowledge there are no existing or outstanding violations of any federal, state
or county laws or rules or regulations or of any Town of Southold local laws
or ordinances pertaining to the property.
5. All applicants for a rental permit shall sign an affidavit stating that they have
received a copy of and fully understand the Southold Town Code concerning
the restrictions on the number of unrelated persons occupying said residence.
6. All applicants must submit the following documents:
(a) Copies of all certificates of occupancy and/or pre-certificates of
occupancy for all buildings and structures on the property;
(b) An affidavit setting forth the address to be used as the last known
address of the owner for service pursuant to all applicable laws and
rules. The owner shall notify the Code Enforcement Official of any
change of address submitted pursuant to this section within five
business days of any change thereto, and ;
(c) At the discretion of the Code Enforcement Official, an accurate
property survey of the premises prepared by a licensed surveyor
drawn to scale not greater than 40 feet to one inch, or, if not shown on
the survey, a site plan prepared by a licensed surveyor or engineer,
drawn to scale, showing all buildings, structures,walks, drives and
other physical features of the premises and the number, location and
access of existing and proposed on-site vehicle parking facilities
7. Each application shall be executed and sworn to by the owner of the
premises.
8. Any additional information required by the Code Enforcement Official.
9. All rental properties containing eight or more rental units shall provide for a
designated site manager,who shall be available to address and resolve any
issues with the property 24 hours a day. The owner of the property must file
the manager's address, telephone number and other contact information
with the Code Enforcement Official within five days of the designation of the
manager or any changes thereto.
A Notwithstanding the above, no rental occupancy permit shall be required for a
residential care facility licensed under federal, New York State or Suffolk County
guidelines.
E. Renewal of rental permits.
1. A renewal rental permit application signed by the owner shall be completed
and filed with the Code Enforcement Official on or 90 days prior to the
expiration date of any valid rental permit. A renewal rental permit
application shall contain a copy of the prior rental permit.
2. A renewal rental permit application shall contain a signed sworn statement
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setting forth the following:
(a) That there are no existing or outstanding violations of any federal,
state or county laws or rules or regulations or of any Town of
Southold local laws or ordinances pertaining to the property; and
(b) That there are no changes to any information as provided on the prior
valid rental permit and application.
3. Prior to the issuance of a renewal rental permit, the owner shall cause an
inspection of the unit or units and the premises on which the same are
located to take place pursuant to Subsection C(2) above.
4._ The Town of Southold shall not accept, review or approve any renewal rental
applications for dwellings wherein the prior rental permit expiration date
has passed. If the expiration date has passed, the owner must file a new
application.
F. Registered motor vehicle restrictions.
1. _ Each rental dwelling shall be entitled to have one registered motor vehicle for
each legally designated bedroom, as determined by the Code Enforcement
Official, as well as one additional registered motor vehicle.
§207-9 Revocation of permit.
A. The Code Enforcement Official may revoke a rental occupancy permit where he or
she finds that the permit holder has caused, permitted, suffered or allowed to exist
and remain upon the premises for which such permit has been issued, for a period
of 14 business days or more after written, return receipt requested notice and
opportunity to be heard has been given to the permit holder, or the managing agent
of such rental dwelling unit, a violation of the Multiple Residence Law and/or New
York State Uniform Fire Prevention and Building Code or a violation of this
chapter or other chapter of the Town Code. Revocation of a permit under this
subsection cannot be done by a devisee or assistant of the Code Enforcement
Official.
B. An appeal from such revocation may be taken by the permit holder to the Town
Board, by written request, made within 30 days from the date of such revocation.
The Town Board shall hold a public hearing on such appeal after receipt of written
request of such appeal, and after such hearing shall make written findings and
conclusions and a decision either sustaining such permit revocation or reinstating
such permit within 30 days after close of such public hearing. Unless the Town
Board directs otherwise in circumstances constituting serious threats to health and
safety, the filing of an appeal shall stay the effectiveness of a permit revocation until
the Town Board has considered and ruled upon the issue.
C. Any permit holder that takes an appeal to the Town Board from the revocation of a
rental permit shall be required to pay an administrative fee $200.00 to the Town
Clerk with the written request for the appeal.
§207-10 Broker's/Agent's responsibility.
A. Broker's/Agent's responsibility prior to listing. No Real Estate Broker or agent shall
list or otherwise advertise, or offer for lease any rental dwelling unit for which a
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current rental permit has not been issued by the Code Enforcement Official.
.4207-11 Enforcement.
This chapter shall be enforced by the Code Enforcement Officer as defined by this chapter.
V07-12 Penalties for offenses.
A. Any person, association, firm or corporation which violates any provision of this
chapter or assists in the violation of any provision of this chapter shall be guilty of a
violation, punishable:
1. By a fine not less than $500 and not exceeding$5,000 or by imprisonment for
a period not to exceed 15 days, or both, for conviction of a first offense.
2. By a fine not less than $1,000 nor more than $10,000 or by imprisonment for
a period not to exceed 15 days, or both, for conviction of the second of the
two offenses, both of which were committed within a period of five years.
B. Each week's continued violation shall constitute a separate additional violation.
C. This section is enacted pursuant to Municipal Home Rule Law � 100)(ii) a(9-a) and
10(1)ON(3) and pursuant to 4 10(5) of the Statute of Local Governments, and is
intended to supersede Town Law § 268 and any other statute or local law to the
extent necessary to increase the minimum and maximum penalties contained
therein.
§207-13 Implementation.
III. Severability.
If any clause, sentence, paragraph, section or part of this chapter shall be adjudged by any
court of competent jurisdiction to be invalid, such judgment shall not affect, impair or
invalidate the remainder thereof, but shall be confined in its operation to the clause,
sentence, paragraph, section or part thereof directly involved in said iudgment.
IV. Effective Date.
This chapter shall be effective upon filing with the Secretary of State. Applications for a
rental permit shall be accepted upon the effective date of this chapter. However, in order
to afford property owners a sufficient amount of time to apply for and obtain a rental
permit as set forth herein, no violation of this chapter will be charged prior to August 1,
2019.
I do have a signed notarized affidavit that this hearing has been advertised in the Suffolk Times,
also on the Town Clerk's bulletin board and that's it.
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: If before we start we could set some ground rules, because I
know a lot of people have a lot to say, if we could do five minutes or less and try not to repeat
the same issues, so whoever would like to start?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Okay.
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ANNE MURRAY: Anne Murray from East Marion, I want to thank the Town Board for finally,
finally putting this forward. It's been a long time that people that have been wanting this to be
passed, especially given the story out of East Hampton this week where 32 people were found
living in a one family home, I think we all know we have the same problem in this town, maybe
not 32 people but there are pockets of places where people take advantage of immigrant workers
or anybody else who can't afford to live in the town and pack them into very unsafe homes, so I
am very glad to see the Town Board finally take action on this. Thank you.
NICHOLAS DEEGAN: Nicholas Deegan, Mattituck. As a homeowner in Mattituck for 30
years, I see no need for this intrusion of the government into the lives of the communities of
Southold Town, I do not see a defensive reason for all this code enforcement, except if you want
more of the (inaudible) government intruding into people's lives and that's where I think we are
coming from is, it's more government and it's more intrusion into our lives (inaudible). So I
think it should be a non-starter here, unless you want to (inaudible) which I think we all in
Southold town try to have a smaller government and less intrusion of government into our lives.
I wish you would consider this before (inaudible), I don't see how it can be defended unless it's
about jobs and giving out jobs, more jobs and hiring more in Southold Town Hall but other than
that, I can't see, I haven't seen any of this (inaudible) I don't see it in Southold Town. Thank
you.
PATRICIA MOORE: Patricia Moore, resident of Southold Town and an attorney. I was waiting
to hear if someone would mention the East Hampton incident that was in the press, actually I
checked and East Hampton has a rental law, so the fact that the rental permit law is instituted
does not prevent the over-crowding or non-compliance with housing safety codes, so the thought
that a law will prevent that as a matter of evidence, that is not the case. I want to go over this
particular law, we had a, Southold VOICE had a program and Jill Doherty and the Supervisor
attended, I know Jim Dinizio was in the audience, so you heard a lot of the comments and I will
go through a very few of them because I've already expressed my views before. I don't want to
have to rehash, you know how I feel from the first hearing, I have not changed my mind. I still
don't believe that it is necessary, I agree with the gentleman that said it was intrusive. It is, in
my opinion, going to impact affordable housing because those that are renting to people for not a
great deal of profit are just not going to want to go through this procedure. They are not getting
a lot of money and the housing stock is already very difficult, so I don't see this as a means to
encourage additional renting. As far as over-crowding, one of the purported intentions of this
code, there is already a maintenance code. Section 100 of our town code already deals with that
issue. That maintenance code, if you just enforce it and you have enforced it, many years ago I
remember a case where I was involved where the town enforced the code and you were able to
get compliance. So, just taking the codes you have in place now will do the trick. As far as
comments about parking, well, homeowners with lots of kids, with lots of teenagers, with several
trucks and cars, resident homeowners have issues with parking. So rental and parking, I think
you probably are going to have somebody who is renting be more conscientious about providing
parking for their renters than somebody that is a homeowner, so I don't really see for purposes of
parking the need for that. We don't allow boarding houses in this town, so enforce the zoning
code if you are concerned about overcrowding in a boarding house. The law itself says it
requires certification by an owner or professional that you meet all local, county and state laws.
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Well, I defy any of you to tell me all the county and state laws that you may or may not comply
with at your own home. Who knows? You have absolutely no idea, none of us do. so generally,
I say if you are dead set on adopting this and there's nothing here today that persuades you
otherwise, than at least put in a paragraph, a provision in this code that says if you have a C of O,
you have a presumption that you meet all codes because it is impossible to try to get a
professional to give a generic certification that you meet everything under the sun. Most rental
codes say you meet the town code, that's something that theoretically you have knowledge of but
that you comply with state and county laws. I am a lawyer and I have no idea. I could search it
but I have no idea. There was a comment about, and this actually appears in your maintenance
code but because it is a provision in this code regarding compliance with a rental requirements,
you can't have an interior key or deadbolt locks, what if the owner has one of the rooms or an
area bolted for personal storage? If you rent yourself house out, let's say you rent it all in
compliance with the code but you create an area that is for the owners personal private area, does
that mean that that now prohibits you from, I mean common sense would tell you that an
inspector would, you would explain it to them but they look at the code and if they are following
it and they are not allowed to use discretion, then that's in there. At the meeting we pointed out
that no interior, that bedrooms can't get access to another room and I pointed out that my
daughters own home has what would have been considered in the old days the children's
nursery, it was the master bedroom, it wasn't this wonderful master bedroom that we all think of
now, the master bedroom was where the other bedroom that you went through had the children's
room or the nursery. So a lot of the older homes have interior rooms, they don't have corridors.
Would that meet current or today's requirements and fire code safety? Absolutely not but that's
the way the house was designed then. Overall, I don't think we need this. I think, again, it is just
burdensome. You are going to punish those that are going to comply because 90% of the people
in this town, if you tell them they have to go through step A through Z, they will go through
steps A through Z. It's that last 10% that may cause the problem but is it worth it, when you
have other laws on the books,to punish the 90 for the 10%, so I don't think so. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Thank you.
PAUL LOEB: Good evening, Paul Loeb, Greenport. I am a licensed real estate salesperson, so
whatever rules you put forth, of course as an agent I will follow them. I am here tonight talking
to you as a homeowner. I have a unique property which is a late Victorian that was converted
into four units in the 1950's, so it has a CO as a four family. Some of the items you are coming
across that are coming in here look like they will be problematic when it comes time for the
inspection. The first speaker spoke about the over-crowding and the houses that are packed with
people, I think it's a small percentage and the good people that are trying to run their houses
responsibly are going to be caught in the crossfire of the rules and regulations you are putting
into play. Our jobs are hard and now they are harder. I have made a couple of notes, some of
them are just in form, it says here in one paragraph, it says non-owner occupied problems, rental
dwellings can be a problem and then it goes on and it says owner occupied houses could be a
problem. I don't know why you need to put both of those sentences in, it's pretty much any
house could be a problem. But they went out of the way to tilt it towards, lead with non-owner
occupied like they are all bad. They are not. A lot of people are doing a good job in keeping
affordable housing in this town. It's expensive here. And people want to stay here. Another
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point, the part about peeling paint, you know, my neighbor's house is a wreck but if I get a little
bit of peeling paint, it's a huge problem. I may be budgeting to paint my house and not everyone
is full of cash and ready to go out and spend thousands of dollars to get your house painted. It
could be a burden. I understand you want to keep the housing stock looking good but the owners
have hard jobs and it's now harder. No permit shall be issued unless all provisions of the code of
the Town of Southold, I picked up the same thing that Patricia Moore did, the town codes and the
state codes, do you have them somewhere? I don't know what they are but I still, I run an
investment property and I really don't know all these codes, I will have to be vouching that I am
following them. The maximum number of persons that are allowed to occupy the premises
pursuant to this chapter, I don't know that. The word is the state has some code that per square
foot you can have so many people per square foot but I don't know what that is. I would be
happy to learn it, I am certainly not pushing a lot of people into my house, although I could make
a lot more money if I did. I am supposed to attest to this and I don't know the answer to it. All
applicants must submit a sworn statement to the knowledge about the, once again, federal, state
and county laws. I don't know what they are. All applicants for a rental permit shall sign an
affidavit that they have received a copy and fully understand the town code on the restrictions on
the number of unrelated persons occupying the residence. I don't know the answer to that. It
would be helpful, if you are going to do this, help us. We want to work with you but this is the
type of stuff that puts us at odds with you. Each rental dwelling shall be entitled to have one
registered motor vehicle for each legally designated bedroom. That is problematic, three of them
are one bedroom and the other is a studio, so now I am allowed just four cars at the house even
though I have one bedrooms and I may rent them to a couple, who is supposed to go without a
car and walk everywhere? I understand you are trying to stop overcrowding of single family
homes with lots of cars but when you get to multi-families, this language doesn't work. Because
what am I supposed to say, if you drive you can't live here. It's not fair. We go on, official may
revoke a rental occupancy, oh, the rental permit, oh, the, you know the way this is written, I
understand you are going against the really bad houses but we'll get caught in the crossfire, if I
do rent to somebody and they get a girlfriend and they have a car, I am not going to be fined
$500, the way this is written, I can be fined $500 a week until it's cured. And evictions aren't
easy and they take a long time. Tenants don't always follow your regulations, so it puts us in a
very bad spot unintentionally. I have no intention of putting 8 people in a one bedroom
apartment but just practicality is an issue. The fines, not less than $500 so you clearly have it
there that it's going to start at $500. That's a lot of money. If I have peeling paint and you
charge me $500, it may be winter and I can't paint until the spring, so I am going to be charged
$500 a week until the spring. It's just not practical, some of the text in here but I understand why
you did it. What you are doing is not helping the affordable housing and the rental market
because this new, with all this bureaucracy, less people will want to buy homes and make them
available for rental. And so we have a problem with affordable housing and this is not helping it.
And then with your start date, going with August, as a real estate agent, I request that you push
that to January 2020, because we have our summer rental period and if I put someone in a house
in July, I don't need a rental permit but August, I do and that person in the house wants to stay
two more weeks...
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COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: Can I interrupt you and clarify that? The law will take effect
upon the filing but what we are saying is we are not going to write any violations until August of
2019.
MR. LOEB: I understand that part and what I am getting at is I wish you would push it to
January because you are dropping this right in the middle of the busy summer rental season.
And as a real estate agent, we are all going to be scrambling around, permit, no permit. If they
rent it for July,now they are going to stay two weeks into August....
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: You can get your permit starting once this is adopted, so if
this is adopted say in two months, you can start getting the permits and you will be all set by this
January.
MR. LOEB: Yes, I can but the homeowner of the, as a real estate agent, if I put a tenant in in
July, if it's not a problem. if they stay in to August, it is now a problem.
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: No, you are misinterpreting that.
MR. LOEB: How am I misinterpreting?
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: If you have a rental permit and you are good for July, then
you are good for the whole year.
MR. LOEB: No, what I am saying is the, okay, as an agent, I put someone in a house in July,
they don't need a rental permit...
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: No, they do. They do need a rental permit.
MR. LOEB: But the violation doesn't kick in until August.
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: But you still need a permit. So we are giving you the time,
we are not going to come in and violate you, we are going to give you the time, so if you need to
get paperwork in order, say you don't have a proper CO and it takes you longer to get the rental
permit, we are giving you time.
MR. LOEB: It's not a problem in July but in August it is a problem.
COUNCILMAN GHOSIO: No, it's a problem in July, too...
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: Yes, because you still need a permit in July, if you are still in
the middle of working with the town, we are not going to go out and violate you, you know, we
are working with you.
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MR. LOEB: Does the text say that? Because you know, what you put into place now, it's all
going to come back to the text and then everyone is going to be in a spot because of the text. So
to...
COUNCILMAN GHOSIO: I think it's a little unusual to allow for 12 months from the time it
passes and the time of enforcement to begin with.
MR. LOEB: Well, actually Greenport Village, what they did is they put a code on the books and
they made it a voluntary process for two or three years. It gave them muscle to go after problem
houses and then they rolled it out to the entire community, so they gave them years to work on it.
They sent letters around suggesting that you get a rental permit and then after two or three years,
they put it into a must have. So it has been done before. But at the very least, if you could push it
off till January 2020, the rental season of 2019 won't be so problematic for everyone involved.
Thank you very much for hearing me.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Just a clarification, they can get the permit...
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: As soon as this law is adopted, you can file for the permit.
This is not...
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: You don't have to wait until the last minute...
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: Yeah, if this, say this takes affect September 1, 2018, you can
file for your permits...
MR. LOEB: I understand that. What I am saying is as an agent, as a homeowner I will but as an
agent, the person who owns the home, I can't make them get a permit that's not required. And
so now this switch over is in July and August which I am now in the mix because I rented it for
July.
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: Yes but if you already know that you are renting that house
out...
MR. LOEB: For July.
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: You still need a permit if you rent it for July.
MR. LOEB: But it's not enforced.
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: It is going to be enforced but you are not going to get fined.
We are not putting out fines, we are not going to put out tickets.
MR. LOEB: What I am saying is, if you do the switch over in January, you avoid putting people
in the spot where they are going to get fined.
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COUNCILMAN GHOSIO: That is what we originally said, January 1, 2019.
MR. LOEB: No, 2020 would be my preference.
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: We were saying 2019 but we are willing to push it to August.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Inaudible....six months later as a result of the input we got the last
time.
MR. LOEB: I understand that, I'm saying it would be helpful if you pushed further because
there is going to be some unintended consequences of switching over in the middle of the rental
season with people who have not followed the rule and now in August it is a punishable fine and
we are in the middle of it...
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: We will take it under consideration.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Yes, we will take it into consideration. If you know you are going
to rent it out for the season, why don't you apply for the permit in June?
MR. LOEB: What I am saying is, they rent it for July and now the tenant is having a nice time
and they want to stay into August...
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: So they already have a permit though...
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Why wouldn't the landlord, why wouldn't the property owner get
the rental permit in June? That takes care of the whole summer.
MR. LOEB: Have you met my clients? They don't always follow the rules.
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: Then they can't rent at all.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: That's an issue between you and your clients, that's not an issue for
us.
MR. LOEB: What I am saying is, if you switch it over in January, it won't be a problem for
anyone (inaudible).
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: If they are not going to get a permit for August, why would
they get a permit in January?
MR. LOEB: You are missing my point, I am saying as an agent I am in the middle of it, I am
okay in July but I am problematic in August, so when you do it in January of 2020, I won't take
the listing at all because they don't have the permit. But, you follow the point I am making?
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: Yes, I do.
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MR. LOEB: Thank you.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Mr. Lademann had his hand up before, so I will let him go and then
you go.
JOHN LADEMANN: I am not in favor of this any bit because I've already, don't like
something else in this because if the inspector wants you to have your property surveyed, then
that costs a lot of money. And that's ridiculous, if they can't find monuments, if there's no fence
up, you have to spend another, up to $3,000 to have your property surveyed. For this man's idea
that you know, you have been paying taxes on it, the property I am talking about, the family has
owned it since 1945 and we pay taxes on it and you put something like that in there that's going
to give him the right to (inaudible). Nobody can answer that. Why is it in it?
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: It is discretional on the part of the code reviewer.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: The code enforcement, he has the right to ask for it, it is not
mandatory.
MR. LADEMANN: He has the right to ask?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: He has the right to ask for it, it is not mandatory.
MR. LADEMANN: Who gives him the right?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: The new law would.
MR. LADEMANN: Been paying taxes on it for years.
SALEM KATSCH: Salem Katsch from Orient. I could say that in Orient we don't have the
kind of problems that are subject to the legislative finding here, we are in an association, I am,
and any kind of substandard housing, even a house that's peeling paint would not be tolerated
very well by our community. So there are areas that should not be covered by this law....
COUNCILMAN GHOSIO: I am sorry, I have to ask this question...
MR. KATSCH: Sure.
COUNCILMAN GHOSIO: Who is your enforcement agency to make sure that the paint is not
peeling on your house?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Have you ever met the Orient Association?
MR. KATSCH: No, that's just one of our associations.
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COUNCILMAN GHOSIO: There's a difference between enforcement and shaming your
neighbor into doing something.
MR. KATSCH: Well, you know, I thought a lot of us are good republicans and look to private
remedies rather than over-regulation. I have to say, I am a lawyer and I used to write legislation
and this legislation is just not, in my opinion, a workable, professional job. You have in the
statement of legislative findings, `determinations' and `findings' that there is serious conditions
arising from non-owner occupied rental dwelling units in one, two, three family and multiple
dwellings, substandard when in violation of the code, well, what is the answer to the question of
why aren't you enforcing the code? Is there an answer?
COUNCILMAN GHOSIO: How do you get in to inspect?
MR. KATSCH: You can't get into inspect under this law without a search warrant.
COUNCILMAN GHOSIO: Or the permission of the person who is applying for the...
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Can I just, I am sorry, can I just remind the Board to speak into them
microphones. It is turned up, it's just the quality of the microphones.
MR. KATSCH: It is not that easy to enforce all these laws when you have one code enforcement
official. I mean...
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Three and a half, as a point of correction. Three full time and one
part time.
MR. KATSCH: Three and a half to fix these `serious conditions' that are throughout the Town
of Southold that require this law, that you are going to do all these inspections, that are going to
issue all these permit. Have you considered all of the forms, three and a half code enforcement
officers? You are going to have what you have with the short term rental law, no enforcement.
It was predicted then, it's the case today, everybody knows it. I think if you have findings, what
are they? Where are they? Is there a report, was there a study, is there a survey? How many
substandard houses are there? How many situations are there of over-crowding? I mean, with
all due respect to Ms. Murphy, we've had enough anecdotal evidence, it's not evidence and it
bothers me a lot because you know, legislative scenario and we are not a small town anymore, is
there would be some fact finding by the Town Board or by people hired by the Town Board.
They would come forward with a report, the report would be issued explaining all of the details
of these laws and answer some of the micro questions that have come up here because to comply
with this is not going to be easy. But we have no report, we don't know what your findings
were, we don't know where the findings and determination of serious conditions comes from, so
we are not in a position to evaluate...you guys work for us, right? Where are the facts? I mean,
everybody can come up with an anecdote but there really should be a study.
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: Can I respond to that? There doesn't have to be a study for
everything we pass up here and my concern and you said it yourself, is the safety aspect and, of
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our community. And we don't have to wait for something serious to happen before we try to
keep our areas, our residential areas safe. We have had a couple of fires in recent years where
our fire departments have gone in and walls are built in a center hall colonial where there
shouldn't be. I don't want to see our volunteer firemen get hurt because somebody is trying to
make more living space. You know, it is expensive to live out here, it is a preventive, a lot of
times you have a reactionary code. This is not a reactionary code, this is a preventive code.
MR. KATSCH: Well then there are no findings, there are no determinations that serious
conditions exist...
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: We've had a couple of issues, yes but nobody says we have
to have a report and findings before we enact a code.
MR. KATSCH: It says you have some...
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: And we have some.
MR. KATSCH: And you have determinations and that there are serious conditions and the fact
that you've had two fires to my mind...
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: It's been more than two.
MR. KATSCH: Now it's more than two. Well, where is this...
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Can I offer commentary? Actually, the fire departments are the
closest to the inventory in Southold Town. When you get feedback from them regularly,
anecdotal works just fine in a small town. You do not need a comprehensive study, that is
specious.
MR. KATSCH: This is not a small town anymore.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Oh, it really is.
MR. KATSCH: Oh, no it's not. And you have an obligation, if you are going to say in a piece of
legislation that you have found there to be serious conditions but you have talked to some fire
people and they say it would be great to have all these inspections, fire people want more
inspections,that's their mentality, of course it is. But you guys are over regulating.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Okay. Inaudible because I have concerns about the law myself but
you just disparaged the fire departments, members town-wide, it's not that they want more
inspections, it's that from their field knowledge, from going out and dealing with the real
challenges in the field, they bring those concerns back to us and we have an obligation to
represent all constituents...
MR. KATSCH: You get from that to this is light years away.
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SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I don't agree.
MR. KATSCH: You are saying here (inaudible)
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: But to say light years away is ridiculous.
MR. KATSCH: You are saying the reason for the law is that the laws aren't being enforced, so
you are going to come in and pass a law to enforce laws that aren't being enforced? That's what
it says here. I am not making this up. You are saying the laws are not being enforced, therefore,
we need this permit law. Let me go on, there are some specific problems with the law, I don't
know if you realize it but the law says that every house, every property subject to this law must
meet all the requirements. Now, my house is subject to the requirements of this law but I don't
rent but I am subject now to the requirement in this law that says I can't have a lock in my
bedroom.
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: That is New York State building code.
MR. KATSCH: New York State building code says that a bedroom can't have an inside lock?
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: Not a bolt lock.
MR. KATSCH: But a lock? You think somebody is going to rent a home to a couple and some
small children and not have a lock on the bedroom, they will use a wedge, I mean, come on.
People want privacy. This is minute regulation of a sort that republicans like us don't want. And
there are less restrictive alternatives which is a very important concept in law, to have less
restrictive alternatives to the extent possible. Let me just quickly, I took a lot of time, sorry, it is
very good that you have provisions on monitoring and regulating inspections and the need for
search warrants, there have been times and now I will share some anecdotes where people that
don't like the next door neighbor go around with cameras and trespass and take pictures, all the
other things that, and sometimes at the request of a code enforcement official. Someone makes a
complaint, they say well, go take pictures and show me. That should be outlawed, the town
should not be encouraging people to go inspect their neighbors properties. You have a provision
here that if there is a revocation of a permit, they should appeal to the Town Board. The Town
Board, notwithstanding the heading on this section that says the Town Board has no appellate
jurisdiction, in fact, the Town Board has no appellate,judicatory jurisdiction. This is a provision
for taking an appeal to the Town Board for a decision of the enforcement officer to revoke a
permit, you don't have jurisdiction to do that. I could, I would be happy to work with the Board,
I mean, I am in favor of permits. I was in favor of permits during the short term rental debate,
when the Supervisor came out dead set against permits and he wanted an absolute ban.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: It's this Board did, it wasn't the Supervisor.
MR. KATSCH: I am sorry, you made the statement that the Board, yes, that's correct. The
Board said no permits, so you can't rent for two weeks but you can rent for two weeks and a day.
And now this law is superimposed on that one but this one isn't in the zoning code, that one is in
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the zoning code so I don't know where that leaves the two laws together, this Councilwoman
Doherty I think it was during the short term rental hearings made a point that that was a short-
term, stopgap measure and it was going to be rationalized in the context of a broader rental law.
I think there should be a broader rental law, a good rental law but not one that goes into such
minutiae of control and regulation, chipping paint, bedroom locks, I mean, I just think we have
come a little too far for that. Anyway, thank you very much for your attention.
TOM MCCARTHY: Good evening, Tom McCarthy, Southold. I agree wholeheartedly with
what the last gentleman said. I think what we are winding up with is a donkey and I think it's a
code made by committee with feedback from the public, we are going to wind up with something
we don't really want. I echo the comments of Paul Loeb before, if he has multiple people in on a
home but you don't have enough room to park. Why do we have parking requirements as well
as occupancy requirements? If you have a bedroom that can occupy two people, by the square
footage requirement of the NYS building code and you have four of them, you are legally
allowed to have eight people. Your code says you can have only five cars. I think you are
winding up with a donkey. I think there's a lot of things in this code, albeit well-meaning to try
to preserve the life, safety, well-being of the residents of Southold but I think you are taking our
rights away from us with every paragraph in this code and I am wholeheartedly against it.
Again, as we met on Saturday morning, I very much appreciate the people that came to the
Southold VOICE meeting, Scott and Jim and Jill, in this code I cannot let a friend use my house.
You are taking my rights away. Is that an oversight? It has to be either family or an owner of
the property. I can't allow my friend to use my house? You are taking my rights away.
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: Excuse me, let me interrupt, I don't see where you...
MR. MCCARTHY: It says a family member or an owner.
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: If you are not renting it to them, you are letting it to them, you
are letting them use it then it's not........
MR. MCCARTHY: It's refutable proof to a violation. Do you mean a violation has to occur in
order for us to refute that we have evidence to the contrary? I think the language is really poor. I
think the whole thing should be thrown out, start over because I think it's the solution looking for
the problem. I really think that we ought to go back to the drawing board, throw this whole thing
out and come back with exactly what's the problem. What is the correspondence we received
from every fire department? Like this gentleman said, what's the study, where are the violations,
where is the communication from the fire departments, how are we looking at, do we have a
mechanism for each one of the departments in our community, to go for the next six months and
give us some feedback, objectively, where are the problems and how do we see them. Why don't
we go back and analyze that and then come back with something that works that solves that
particular problem. But I think this is a law that is a solution looking for a problem. There's
many things in here, as Pat Moore said previously, there should be a presumption that if you
have a CO, that you comply. The placard right in front of us, Town of Southold 1640, we didn't
start CO's until 1957 and what do they say? CO for a single family dwelling. The building
inspector has no idea what the bedrooms layouts are, if they are interconnected or not, some of
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the original homeowners don't know and some homes don't have CO's. I think what this
legislation, what you are doing is you are going to leave a lot up to policy making by the building
department and I think that's dangerous. Policy making by the building department how do we
enforce what the intent of this is? I think it's extremely dangerous. The portions of the code that
deal with you have to attest to every single law that's in the nation, including probably reciting
the 16th amendment before you can get you know, a rental permit, I think it's overbearing, 100
percent. Right now,just for instance, there have been codes that have been changed in our town.
You used to have a railing on a deck if was over 18 inches, so you couldn't fall off of it, then
they changed it to 30 inches and then moved it back. Which code are we attesting to, that our
homes comply with. There's moving targets every single day and it's got to be up to the
interpretation of someone other than this board in order to put that in place and I think we are
setting ourselves up for failure, for discord from our members of the community that hired you
folks to look out for our best interests but I don't think this piece of legislation does it. I think it
creates more problems than it solves and there's just multiple issues throughout the code,
although it is well meaning, but every single paragraph in here is taking away the rights of tax
paying citizens in this town that have hired you folks to do what's in our best interests and I
don't feel that this piece of legislation is. I suggest that you go out, commission a study, let's
look at the facts and let's analyze it together as a community because I don't think this piece ,of
legislation is doing it. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Tom, can I just ask a quick question? Would you support a rental
code if it was drafted differently? Do you believe in the concept of a rental code?
MR. MCCARTHY: Yes, I would. I would like to also add for the record, I am a real estate
broker, I have had my license for over 30 years. I own rental properties in the Town of Southold,
I own them in the Town of Riverhead, I own in the Town of Southampton. This is really
overbearing. There are renewal provisions in the other towns, I just received them from the town
of Southampton, .there is not a re-inspection on a renewal, okay?- You have to go along with it,
there's not a physical re-inspection but there's a renewal of the paperwork. This code doesn't
say if I sell my house or at least I didn't see it there, does the permit run with the land or is it
with the owner? If I bought a property that had a rental permit, do I assume that that comes
along with it or does there have to be another inspection? There's just so many different things
in here that are, as the Southold VOICE community put together, unintended consequences. And
I think we really need to go back to the drawing board, identify the problem and then look for a
solution that solves that problem. But yes, I am in favor of life, safety and protection of all the
residents in Southold Town. I agree 100 percent with your attempt but I don't agree that this is
the vehicle to get there.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: But rental permit, if it was more, if it was better crafted?
MR. MCCARTHY: Only for the instance, Scott, that we can't enforce the codes that are on the
books, which this gentleman just put out there, if our finding is that there are violations of those
codes, if there are violations, why don't we have the teeth to do it and is this the only mechanism
to get the teeth to enforce the other codes that are not being enforced.
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SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: So, yes? For a rental code?
MR. MCCARTHY: If it was very watered down and it was easy, it wasn't punitive to the
residents of the town.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Fair point. Thanks. Who else would like to address the Town
Board on this?
ROBERT LYNAM: Good evening, Robert Lynam from Peconic. I am speaking on behalf of
Marissa Cardinale who was unable to come to the meeting. At the Southold VOICE meeting last
week there was no opportunity to ask Jill Doherty what she meant by her introduction of this
proposed law. She said she backed the law to `protect our way of life and that she could see
where we would be in five years if we did not adopt this law' I would like Miss Doherty to
define what way of life she feels is under threat and exactly where we will be in five years in
your view. But first, let me say what five years of this new law would do to Southold. Southold
senior homeowners will no longer have the option of supplementing their income with seasonal
rentals. The seasonal rentals, the summer people, will have nowhere to stay but hotels. All the
local owner run businesses that depend on summer visitors who have rental homes, fish markets,
farmer markets, infrastructure that is supported by hundreds of visitors who temporarily set up
housekeeping, that will be gone. Instead there will be pressure to build resorts, big hotels that
put the tourism dollars into the hands of large corporate interests instead of individual
community members. Large hotels and resorts that will bring concentrated traffic in the summer
and a ghost town in winter, where visitors remain on a resort rather than bring their dollars into
the small businesses in Southold. This is the way of life that this power grab, property rights
stealing law will create, a very different Southold. Sincerely, Marissa Cardinale.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Thank you. Who else would like to address the Town Board?
BILL CASSIOPA: Bill Cassiopa, New Suffolk. I have rental properties in most of the hamlets
and I go out every day and work on rental properties, whether it's inside or outside and I feel like
I am missing something because there's many neighbors on the block next door to the house that
I own, that live there and they are owners and their house looks terrible and they don't take care
of it and the probably have all kinds of bad uses and hazards and whatnot and yet it seems like
they are going to run scot free. These laws, as I understand it, does not apply to a homeowner.
So where's the right, where's the justice in that if there are landlords and I think most of them are
landlords who are very responsible and take care of their properties and make them look good in
the areas where they are, so with these regulations and I haven't read all of them but I will, the
idea, if it's an older home and it needs to have leaders and gutters which might not be on there
because there never where any on there, it's a real burden to many, many people who are
landlords trying to do the right thing in the Town of Southold. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Thank you.
JACK REARDON: Hi, everyone. Jack Reardon. I live in Greenport but I own a rental property
in Laurel and I would like to thank you for allowing us to speak tonight. I too was at the
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Southold VOICE meeting on Saturday and heard a tremendous number of good ideas. I am new
to this topic myself but it does personally impact me and my family, so I figured I better take my
opportunity to say something. I would like to thank everybody who came to speak up also
because it is not easy to speak in front of a crowd. And you know, basically, it's the choirs
talking to the choirs. You know who's out here and we know pretty much where everybody
stands on the Board. And you asked us not to reiterate ideas and things that were said by other
members and by gosh, that's all we got, all the things I want to say have already been said
basically, so I am going to continue with going over some of my issues as well and some I hadn't
thought of. Certainly, let's start by just trying to articulate the problem. I go, I look at this law
and what's the problem, what's going to be the solution? And the problem seems to be housing
and there's a couple of kinds, there's long term, there's workforce, there's personal and there's
like the weekend people that are here for really, I think how this all started, the Airbnb issue and
now we are all caught up in a bigger topic. The other day I was speaking to my neighbor who
lives in Greenport but part of his property is in Southold, so he is going to be affected by this, he
is an elderly guy, he is on retirement, so he is on a fixed income. He rents his house to a family
that keeps an eye on him and maintains the place but you know, by interpreting this, now he may
be in for a survey which could run anywhere from a few hundred to a few thousand dollars, he's
in for the permit, the re-permit application and who knows what other things and that brings me
to the other things I want to discuss, with just who's going to be looking at what inside your
house. Now I have a little bit of experience with this, like Mr. McCarthy I have a house in
Southampton Town and I found their permitting process to be dehumanizing and a little
humiliating but I got on board and you know, I did that. it's good if you are an absentee owner
and you are renting the property and that's your income, you need to follow certain rules and
regulations. The most important would be fire and safety, egress in and out. After that, it
becomes somewhat of an opinion. With my experience, there was electrical and that was,
anecdotes up the whazoo about that itself, there was the potential of the health department which
then would lead to a septic system which would lead to a whole new approach because we can't
have people spending $20,000 just to rent their house out. So this law, though, touches on, it's
essence is correct, I believe it's purview is tremendously overbearing. No one wants the
government to regulate their bedroom and that's what this does. I don't want the government to
regulate anything on my property though I do have to abide by that. you know, we all pay a lot
of money, we do have the right to do and represent ourselves on our piece of property the way
we want and if we want to rent out for a weekend to someone, we should have the right to do that
because it's not a business, we are not doing it to put anybody out of business and we are not
doing it on a regular basis, okay, and so my neighbor, we are chatting about this and he goes,
grandfather everybody who's renting, now, just make everybody and then all the new people,
make them do it. I don't know if that's the right answer (inaudible) and I heard Paul Loeb talk
about pushing dates back and it's funny because I wrote stuff down the other day, January 1,
2020. That was the date I wrote down and I think after the Board considers reconsidering this
writing of this law and I think what you need is some input from your constituents here, as well
as yourselves, to articulate the best they can but somewhat not specific. Like I really don't want
my house to be inspected by someone who might then bring in, the electric people, the water
people, the health department people, the building department people because the inspector
deems it by their opinion, that's not right. you know, a center hall colonial that has a wall put up
inside, people are allowed to do that, it doesn't change anything about the house. You know?
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That's allowed, that stuff. And then some of the other things here about maintaining things, I
have seen plenty of clay tennis courts that are not maintained, weeds growing up through, I guess
that's a personal thing, you know, the age of the house is going to dictate the deterioration or the
newness of anything on the structure and there are a variety of other things, I would just like to
articulate a few of them, no bedroom or sleeping quarters shall have an interior lock, you know, I
like to keep people out of my bedroom sometimes, not that I want to keep anybody out but if I
was renting I would want to keep renters out, the history of the architecture, we've talked about
that, how some rooms are egress to other rooms and that's just the essence of the structure and
these are all tough things to address in a, like this. I suggest, what I would like to see the Board
do is stagger the implementation. I heard supervisor Russell say there was going to be no vote
tonight, he was going to postpone it, I would like to see a tabling until we get it all rewritten and
figure out a good implementation, I like the implementation of 1/1/20 but along with that, people
should be allowed to volunteer and sign up, I would do it, I would get it all out of the way but
there shouldn't be any rushing to, for this, because we have all seen it in all of our jobs, all of our
lives, that the person that comes in and makes this big change and then we do have these
unforeseen consequences and there's a lot of back-stepping. Here's an opportunity to do it in
sort of an appropriate way and you have got a lot of people that are probably like, you know, I
will read it, I will give you my ideas. And there are plenty of people in this town that have got
plenty of time on their hands that will help you. without going into all of my minutiae, I would
like to say thank you very much for having me to speak and I am trusting that we are not going
to rush into this and that we are going to listen to your constituents and keep the government at
their distance and keep us in charge of our property. Thank you very much.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Thank you. Who else would like to address the Town Board on this
hearing?
MARIE BENINATI: Marie Beninati, I am also a broker and I live in Southold. I am not going
to repeat any of the things per your request, Jill, but I do want to say a couple of things. I don't
support this, I don't think there's a need for it. I think the issue of enforcement is there and you
all have to figure out how to make that work. I would, not guess, probably know, that the
members of our fire departments, the members of our law enforcement, they know where these
homes are. They know the buildings that have the violations. Why aren't we doing something
about that? There is code on the books, there are penalties I was told on the books and yet we
have a whole bunch of penalties in this code. Not in the helicopter code but in this code. There
are issues with the law that need to be addressed, you have heard people say it over and over
again. I would urge you to gracefully take a step back and do what you are hearing this evening.
start all over, start all over. We don't need to copy some other towns code. Start over and do
what is right for Southold Town. There is no question, this is intrusive, it's overbearing, it's
punitive. It's not what you want, I know it's not what you want. It's certainly not what we want
in this town. We can do what needs to be done to protect people but we can't do things that are
going to get those people who are living in rental apartments that they can barely afford, they are
going to lose them, they are going to be thrown out. There is going to be major upheaval in this
town if we don't go about this in the right way. It's wrong for people not to protect people in
their homes, not to follow fire code, building codes and all those things, its wrong. But you
know who they are, do something about it. Alright? And as far as this is concerned, put a
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committee together and get the best thinking of the town and get the right solution for this. a
permit is not going to give you the solution that you want. Those fires wouldn't have been
stopped by a permit, I am sorry. I don't think they would. So I wish you good thinking, I wish
you gracefully to step back and come up with a much better solution for Southold Town. Thank
you.
DUNEWOOD TRUGLIA: Dunewood Truglia, I am not going to repeat anything that I heard
tonight, I think it was all excellent, some points made especially some of the presumptions that
should be in that law that are not. I urge the Town Board not to kill a gnat with a hammer.
Thank you.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Please.
LESLIE CLEWIS: Hi, Leslie Clewis. I am not going to repeat anything either but I do have a
couple of questions. These ordinances that you are trying to enact into law are going to affect
other individuals in the community and our community and I say'our community though some
people may say because I don't live in the home full-time year round, I mean, I have the right to
the opinion. Let's make it clear, we pay the taxes, we maintain it. So, there are properties in our
community which, yes, show a little wear and could use some assistance. These homes are held
by individuals who may be struggling financially. So how will implementing this law help those
individuals? Are we just going to boot them out of the community, eventually turn around and
say well, you have reached a certain level of fines we are going to take action and take over your
home? You know, I understand that everyone wants to look around and see the world beautiful,
well, beauty comes in many different ways. In compassion for your neighbor, in assisting those
around you and giving in a little bit and not being so self-interested. You know, in our
community the short term rental has been a major discussion, a major issue, yet in the past six to
seven years, property values have increased almost 100 percent. That is a major gain even with
those homes that show a bit of a blemish. I live next to one, it doesn't bother me. We know the
family, those individuals have suffered some hardships. What is going to be done to assist them?
Are you going to force them out of their homes? That's the question you need to ask yourselves.
I would like to address the parking issue. That needs to be based upon capacity of a person's
driveway, not their bedrooms. There are already laws in place for nuisance problems in a
community. If someone is blocking a street, you call the police, they come and make them
move, if they don't move you tow them out of the way. We have other issues in our community
that are not being addressed. We are right on the sound, we have, actually yesterday I was
limbing up some trees in the front yard, clearing out debris and I found crack bags on my
property. But you know what? I live in a community where everyone watches out for everyone.
No one saw this happening, the activity, two weeks ago I had a meeting with Chief Flatley and
another neighbor because of the nuisance created by the fishermen who camp out behind our
houses all night long. You see flashlights, going up on people's house. Nothing is being done
about this. In that discussion with Chief Flatley, I said one of the officers claimed this was a
park area. It's not a park area. East of Goldsmiths inlet is the park area, yet, we are suffering
these problems. Theft has occurred on the homes right off the beach because of these problems.
We have had another resident who; two summers ago, someone attempted to break into his home
because of these problems. So I say we are looking at safety in the community, let's truly look at
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what we can do to maintain a safe community because we have people who expose themselves
on our beach to urinate because they have been standing out there eight hours and ten hours in a
day fishing. In a family community, it's not a nudist colony. But I don't hear discussions about
this. In regards to people's homes, we have a right, we are paying taxes. We are maintaining.
The people who have taken and done short term rental in our community have all helped in
improving it and the fact is, the people they bring in bring money to our community. They are
spending it in the community, they are helping to bring jobs to the community. So think twice
please. Pull it back a little bit and think it over.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Thank you. Would anybody else like to address the Town Board?
BENJA SCHWARTZ: Benja Schwartz, Cutchogue. More specifically, Fleets Neck.
Traditionally a seasonal neighborhood of Southold Town of which there are many and I am an
advocate of rental registry. However, this law is over the top. But I think that we do need to
start to get a handle on the issues of rental properties. I would like to know and for you to know
and have better idea of the various compositions of neighborhoods. There's been a gradual
change from seasonal community to year round community where I live and I think that is
having serious impacts on our qualities of life etc. we are not going to go backwards, you know,
seasonal home ownership, eh, you put up with some parties and stuff in the summer except if
they are setting off fireworks all summer long etc., that shouldn't happen with or without the fact
the residence is being rented but I do think if the residence is being rented, that is something that
I would like to have our local government know which house is being rented and perhaps collect
a small administrative fee but not to impose draconian requirements, keep your room neat. You
know, I don't want to see the code enforcement going into people's houses looking for that sort
of thing whether the house be owned or rented but and I don't think that you could impose a
registry or permit requirement on homes that are used seasonally, maybe not a permit
requirement but as working with the federal government in the last census, I think it was 2010,
they do ask people are you living here year round or are you here seasonally? And I think it
would be a good idea for the town to take note of that and also to impose a rental permit required
for rental although there might need to be exceptions for preexisting uses, seasonal rentals and
year round rentals may have some different requirements that apply them, I don't see that here.
This is just a ban. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Thank you. Would anybody else like to address the Town Board?
The way I view this is as an opportunity for the town to get input and the concerns and then
maybe as a two way discussion so you understand what we are trying to wrestle with and some
of the difficulties. The CO, if you have a CO, you ought to be able to rent it, I agree with that
100 percent. It's nice, it's streamlined but just so you know, how do I deal with the houses that
have gone through fundamental changes over the years without building permits? One of the
problems we have is houses that have CO's and firemen are going into that have been split up
into two or three units. That's a challenge that we have to overcome somehow. The issue with
regard to also just issuing a permit without requiring something, I am not sure we have the legal
right to sanction a use without making sure it's compliant with NYS safety and fire code. Which
I want to mention, a lot of these issues aren't arbitrary, they have come from other sources like
the NYS building safety fire code. The absentee landlords, look we have got to put this on the
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table, I recognize that it's difficult to regulate every blade of grass in a home but what do we do
about the people that have been offering the homes for rent in another community for years and
haven't put a penny back into the site? There needs to be an understanding that there has to be
some measure of accountability, community standard there. One thing I will have to say, Marie,
I appreciate what you said, the overcrowding, the problem is, how do we establish that? Under
the current code, what code? How do we establish that there's seven, eight or nine people in that
home? We have no legal vehicle for doing that right now. That's one of the challenges that we
have been dealing with for the past decade is dealing with this overcrowding and trying to
establish probably cause. You can't just knock on doors and force yourself in. One of the things
I would say is the parking, it's a tough issue for us because you don't want too many cars there, I
know the gentleman said you can just have the police remove the car from the road, they can't.
If they are legally parked on a public road, you cannot make them move the vehicle. So that's an
issue we have to somehow come to grips with. One of the things I will say, one of my biggest
concerns from the beginning was the displacement of people, what do we do if they are not
compliant? When we had a, oh incidentally, I do want to comment, when you said the rental
code wouldn't stop that fire, those fires, yeah, that's the point. That's why you need a rental
code, to prevent that from happening in the future, one of the issues. But I am concerned about
displacement. If we all of a sudden find a lot of rental units where the owner isn't interested in
continuing to rent because of the code or people simply can't occupy a home for all sorts of
safety reasons. We have struggled with displacement issues in the past, trying to find homes for
people, alternative housing. When we had the fire in Peconic, 27 people living in one home, I
had a heck of a time trying to find alternative housing for them because most of the resources are
maxed out, so I do recognize that is going to be a problem.
This public hearing was declared closed at 9:16 PM
RESULT: CLOSED [UNANIMOUS]
MOVER: Louisa P. Evans, Justice
SECONDER:Jill Doherty, Councilwoman
AYES: Dinizio Jr, Ruland, Doherty, Ghosio, Evans, Russell
2. PH 7/317:31 Pm -LL Chapter 280 Helicopters
COUNCILMAN GHOSIO: NOTICE IS HEREBY there has been presented to the Town
Board of the Town of Southold, Suffolk County, New York, on the 3rd day of July, 2018, a
Local Law entitled "A Local Law in relation to Amendments to Chapter 280, `Zoning' with
regard to Helicopters" and
NOTICE IS HEREBY FURTHER GIVEN that the Town Board of the Town of Southold will
hold a public hearing on the aforesaid Local Law at the Southold Town Hall, 53095 Main Road,
Southold,New York, on the 31" day of July, 2018 at 7:31 p.m. at which time all interested
persons will be given an opportunity to be heard.
The proposed Local Law entitled, "A Local Law in relation to Amendments to Chapter 280,
`Zoning' with regard to Helicopters" reads as follows:
LOCAL LAW NO. 2018
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A Local Law entitled, "A Local Law in relation to Amendments to Chapter 280, `Zoning'
with regard to Helicopters".
BE IT ENACTED by the Town Board of the Town of Southold as follows:
I. Purpose.
To modify and clarify certain provision of the Town Code as it pertains to helicopters in
order to better protect the quality of life enjoyed by Southold Town residents.
Il. Chapter 280 of the Code of the Town of Southold is hereby amended as follows:
§ 280-13 Use regulations.
[Amended 3-14-1989 by L.L. No. 3-19891
In A-C, R-80, R-120, R-200 and R-400 Districts,no building or premises shall be used and no
building or part of a building shall be erected or altered which is arranged, intended or designed
to be used, in whole or in part, for any uses except the following:
A. Permitted uses. [Amended 5-23-1989 by L.L. No. 8-1989; 11-29-1994 by L.L. No. 25-
1994; 11-29-1994 by L.L. No. 26-1994; 5-13-1997 by L.L. No. 8-1997; 7-17-2007 by
L.L. No. 15-2007; 6-15-2010 by L.L. No. 2-20101
B. Uses permitted by special exception by the Board of Appeals. The following uses are
permitted as special exception by the Board of Appeals, as hereinafter provided, and, except
for the uses set forth in Subsections B(1), (13) and (14)hereof, are subject to site plan
approval by the Planning Board: [Amended 3-14-1989 by L.L.No. 3-1989; 5-20-1993 by
L.L. No. 6-1993; 12-21-1993 by L.L. No. 3-1989; 11-29-1994 by L.L. No. 26-1994; 12-
27-1994 by L.L. No. 30-1994; 2-7-1995 by L.L. No. 3-1995; 11-12-1996 by L.L. No. 20-
1996; 11-12-1997 by L.L. No. 26-1997; 12-8-1998 by L.L. No. 26-1998; 10-25-2005 by
L.L. No. 18-2005; 6-15-2010 by L.L. No. 2-2010]
C. Accessory uses, limited to the following uses and subject to the conditions listed in § 280-
15 herein:
(12) Use of aircraft in agricultural operations, provided that:
(a) the use has been granted a special exception from the Zoning Board of
Appeals.
(b) in addition to the criteria for a special exception set forth in
280-142 7 143, the ZBA shall considering the following criteria:
(1) the anticipated frequency of flights
(2) the location of the proposed landing and take-off zone
(3) the location of residences
(4) the type of aircraft being used
(c) Notwithstanding the forgoing, the use of aircraft shall be limited to
spraying crops, surveying, fields and transporting employees and
shall not be used for transporting non-employees to and from the
subject premises.
Article XXII. Supplementary Regulations
§ 280-111. Prohibited uses in all districts.
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[Amended 11-24-1992 by L.L. No. 26-1992; 8-8-2006 by L.L. No. 7-2015; 8-25-2015 by L.L.
No. 7-2015]
C. Uses involving primary production of the following products from raw materials:
charcoal and fuel briquettes; chemicals; aniline dyes; carbide; caustic soda; cellulose;
chlorine; carbon black and bone black; creosote; hydrogen and oxygen; industrial
alcohol; nitrates of an explosive nature; potash; plastic materials and synthetic resins;
pyroxylin; rayon yarn; hydrochloric, nitric, phosphoric, picric and sulfiiric acids; coal,
coke and tar products, including gas manufacturing; explosives; gelatin, glue and size
(animal); linoleum and oil cloth; matches; paint, varnishes and turpentine; rubber(natural
or synthetic); soaps, including fat rendering; starch.
D The following processes:
(1) Nitrating of cotton or of other materials.
(2) Milling or processing of flour.
(3) Magnesium foundry.
(4) Reduction, refining, smelting and alloying metal or metal ores.
(5) Refining secondary aluminum.
(6) Refining petroleum products, such as gasolines, kerosene, naphtha and lubricating
oil.
(7) Distillation of wood or bones.
(8) Reduction and processing of wood pulp and fiber, including paper mill
operations.
E. Operations involving stockyards, slaughterhouses and slag piles.
F. Storage of explosives.
G. Quarries.
H. Storage of petroleum products.Notwithstanding any other provisions of this chapter,
storage facilities with a total combined capacity of more than 20,000 gallons, including
all tanks,pipelines, buildings, structures and accessory equipment designed, used or
intended to be used for the storage of gasoline, fuel oil, kerosene, asphalt or other
petroleum products, shall not be located within 1,000 feet of tidal waters or tidal
wetlands.
I. Encumbrances to public roads.
(1) No person shall intentionally discharge or cause to be discharged any water of any
kind onto a public highway, roadway, right-of-way or sidewalk causing a public
nuisance or hazardous condition, or resulting in flooding or pooling in or around
the public area, including neighboring properties.
(2) No person shall place or cause to be placed obstructions of any kind, except the
lawful parking of registered vehicles, upon a public highway, roadway,
right-of-way or sidewalk that unreasonably interferes with the public's use of the
public highway, roadway, right-of-way or sidewalk.
J. Transient rental properties.
K. Aircraft prohibited.
1. Helicopters prohibited. No person, firm or corporation shall land or cause
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to be landed, take off or cause to take off or taxi any helicopter on or from
the waters, beaches or on any land within the Town of Southold.
2. Seaplanes prohibited. No person, firm or corporation shall land or cause
to be landed, take off or cause to take off or taxi any seaplane on or from
the waterways under the jurisdiction of the Town of Southold Board of
Trustees.
3. This ordinance shall not apply to Town owned airfields, medical or police
emergency landinl4s and takeoffs or aircraft involved in medical or
military emergencies.
4. This ordinance shall not apply to the use of aircraft as an accessory use to
agricultural production as set forth in section 280-13(c)(12).
III. SEVERABILITY
If any clause, sentence, paragraph, section, or part of this Local Law shall be adjudged by any
court of competent jurisdiction to be invalid,the judgment shall not affect the validity of this law
as a whole or any part thereof other than the part so decided to be unconstitutional or invalid.
IV. EFFECTIVE DATE
This Local Law shall take effect immediately upon filing with the Secretary of State as provided
by law.
I do have a signed affidavit that this was noticed in the Suffolk Times, also on the Town Clerk's
bulletin board and on the Town's website. I do have a letter here from Suffolk County
Department of Economic Development and Planning that this is to be considered to be a matter
for local determination as there is no significant county-wide or inter-community impacts. And I
have a few letters and comments that are considered to be part of the record. That's all I have.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Would anyone like to address the Town Board on this particular
local law?
ADAM IRVING: Adam Irving from Orient. I work with the Southold Town Helicopter
Committee. Teresa McCaskie who has been by far the number one proponent of trying to adopt a
code and also work on helicopter related issues as Southold residents are affected cannot be here
tonight so obviously I am speaking on both of our behalves, but we have worked with Bob, we
have met with local pilots that do agricultural spraying, surveying, things like that, I think those
meetings have been pretty productive and we are happy with this code. I think that the code can
achieve two benefits, it can allow the existing operators here in Southold to continue to do what
they do, at the same time it can help protect residents in Southold from essentially an air taxi
business that has proliferated significantly, primarily on the south fork, at this point I think it's
fair to say the north fork is somewhat of a door mat for the Hamptons in terms of what used to be
kind of Friday's and Sunday nights, it's now kind of a seven day a week problem and the
problem goes much deeper into the off season in terms of whoever is on the route is getting
consistent helicopter traffic, so places like in Orient and places around Riverhead, Laurel,
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Wading River get hammered. Mattituck used to get hammered, that's been shifted slightly so
now it's places around Peconic, Cutchogue, Nassau Point. you know, in and out all day long. In
our mind, the goal of this legislation is to prevent the air taxi business setting up shop here in
Southold and taking what I think is already a pretty unfair and untenable situation for residents
and making it that much worse, were they to set up shop here, so certainly speaking from a
personal standpoint as well as someone who has spent five years working with the town
helicopter committee, we are very much in favor of the proposed language. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Thank you. Who else would like to address the Town Board?
ANNE MURRAY: I am Anne Murray from East Marion and I am with Adam in his approval of
this code, I just have a question though. On my copy here it says `ordinance shall not apply to
the use of aircraft as an accessory use to' and then it ends. My only question on this, if someone
wants to put a big house, Hampton style, are they allowed to put a helipad on their property or
does this law prevent that?
TOWN ATTORNEY DUFFY: Inaudible.
MS. MURRAY: I don't have the last page on this copy, that's why I am asking.
TOWN ATTORNEY DUFFY: Inaudible.
MS. MURRAY: Oh, I see. Thank you. And you know, the aircraft has been shifted back and
forth but I can attest to East Marion being hammered now and Orient, especially over the
causeway. Thank you for finally doing this.
PETER WALKER: Peter Walker, Cutchogue. I have also worked with Teresa and Teresa asked
me to show since she couldn't make it and again, give our support. I am from Cutchogue and we
get hammered, it's been going on for over 10 years. This is one step to maybe stop it. if we can
get Schumer and Gillibrand involved, maybe we can end it but I doubt that's ever going to
happen. Since the (inaudible) route over in East Hampton has been cancelled, we are even
getting more and I don't know when nor does Teresa know when that is going to be rectified but
also sea planes, they can't land in our waters and they can't fly over our homes, so I think this is
a very, very good step in the right direction.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Who else would like to address the Town Board?
STEVE BARSH: Hi, I am Steve Barsh of New Suffolk and also representing Mattituck Airport.
I just want to comment on one particular aspect of the code, I think certainly we maintain the
position that we are a non-conforming, pre-existing use therefore we would be permitted to
continue to use the airport as we have for the over 80 years. However, as the airport is governed
by the FAA and federal law, we would ask that there's a specific exception made for Mattituck
Airport rather than permitting it only through the non-conforming, pre-existing use. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Who else would like to address the Town Board?
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MS. MURRAY: Since he brought up Mattituck Airport, I am curious, how does the Town
Board react to that? Will there be a special exception for Mattituck Airport, should they want to
have helicopters land there?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I will defer to the Town Attorney.
TOWN ATTORNEY DUFFY: I think I would recognize it is a pre-existing, non-conforming
use....
MS. MURRAY: I can't hear you.
TOWN ATTORNEY DUFFY: We do recognize it is pre-existing, non-conforming use under
zoning so they would be allowed to continue to operate and I do agree that the FAA (inaudible)
because I know we can't interfere with what the FAA would allow or not allow, so they have
(inaudible)
MS. MURRAY: So they could operate a helicopter business? They could be a BLADE stop if
they wanted to be?
TOWN ATTORNEY DUFFY: I am not going to get into specific examples but they are a pre-
existing, non-conforming use.
MS. MURRAY: Right. So for people who don't know, BLADE is the service that sort of like
the Uber of aircraft. Thank you.
COUNCILMAN GHOSIO: I will say that as far as I learned in talking with the owners of the
Mattituck Airport, it is a privately owned airport and anybody that wants to land there has to
receive permission first. We were very sensitive when we put this together to ensure that the
airport was not affected by this and we believe with the help of the Town Attorney, it is pre-
existing, non-conforming and has prior approval from say the FAA that we didn't have to do
anything further than that in what we have done with this code and they will not be affected by
this law.
MARIE BENINATI: Good evening, Marie Beninati, Southold. I just have a question, are there
any penalties in this code or part of the previous code for offenses?
TOWN ATTORNEY DUFFY: It's part of our zoning code, so the zoning code already has
penalties for violations of Chapter 280, which is our zoning ordinance but I don't have exact
range but it runs from minimal up to several thousand dollars, I believe the max is $5,000.
MS. BENINATI: So nothing specific to this particular...
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: It's the same range that would be in the code for any other violation.
MS. BENINATI: Alright. Thank you.
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SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Thank you. Who else would like to address the Town Board?
JIM UNDERWOOD: Bob, you just mentioned that they would have to ask permission to land at
Mattituck Airport, permission granted by whom?
COUNCILMAN GHOSIO: By the owners.
MR. UNDERWOOD: By the owners of the airport.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Under the current...
MR. UNDERWOOD: This is the crack in the door that...
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Okay, go ahead.
MR. UNDERWOOD: No, that's okay. That's all I had to say.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I am just going to quickly say that the manager of the Mattituck
Airbase has been very responsive to the town's concerns. Every time I have called we got
immediate action, I am very confident in the way the airport is run that we can rest assured,
however, there is an understanding that someday airports can sell to a new owner. This code, I
can't speak to can they do this or can they do that down the road because like every other code
that governs use, you need to see exactly what someone wants to do before you can say they can
or can't do that. that's why it's difficult to answer questions about, well, if someday they do this,
if someday they do that. It has to go through a review process like every other aspect of the
code.
COUNCILMAN GHOSIO: I can tell you if you look at the history of the airport and you see the
pictures over the past 50 years, the intensity of use was a whole lot greater 20, 30 and 40 years
ago than it is today, in spite of the influx and the popularity of helicopter taxis and the flights to
and from East Hampton. So in that regard we are certainly better than we were before and I am
confident based upon our conversations with what the owners are doing there and what they plan
to do, that that intensity is going to stay as it is today.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Who else would like to address the Town Board?
SALEM KATSCH: Salem Katsch from Orient. I also am in favor of limiting the amount of air
traffic. I just would like to know how this prevents a pre-existing use from being expanded?
TOWN ATTORNEY DUFFY: I will try to address this, they would have to comply with pre-
expansion of pre-existing, non-conforming uses, it is a very (inaudible) intensification versus
expansion so, our code does address expansion of non-conforming uses so they would have to
comply with that, they would have to seek approval to expand a non-conforming use.
MR. KATSCH: Well, if it's a new approval, is that a pre-existing use?
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COUNCILMAN GHOSIO: What do you mean by that?
MR. KATSCH: I mean, if somebody who has flown a taxi service twice a week wants to
increase it to six times a week, is he allowed because he has done it twice a week?
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: Not automatically.
TOWN ATTORNEY DUFFY: Again, I don't want to get into the hypothetical because you
would have to make a determination, is that an intensification or an expansion?
MR. KATSCH: Well, obviously it's an expansion.
TOWN ATTORNEY DUFFY: Well, I don't know that it's obvious.
COUNCILMAN GHOSIO: Inaudible.
MR. KATSCH: It's an intensification?
TOWN ATTORNEY DUFFY: The code makes a distinction between intensification where they
are a little bit busier as opposed to an expansion.
MR. KATSCH: Okay, thank you.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Who else would like to address the Board?
UNIDENTIFIED: Inaudible. So the helicopters weren't flying in there.
COUNCILMAN GHOSIO: No, it had helicopters, it had tie downs. In fact, it had a lot more tie
downs than there are today. I have physically seen the pictures.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Would anybody else like to address the Town Board?
BENJAMIN SCHWARTZ: Good evening, Benjamin Schwartz from Cutchogue. I wonder if
maybe you could explain a little, I am a little confused, it says aircraft prohibited and then it talks
about helicopters and sea planes and would this legislation impact the smaller type of aircraft, I
think they are called ultralights? I think some of them are similar to miniature helicopters. Then
there are also drones that are becoming more popular, is there anything in here that would impact
drones or does the town have anything in the wings, no pun intended, might impact drones?
Actually, many drones are essentially unmanned helicopters and near and dear to my heart are
the, although I've never, I windsurf but I don't kite board but I don't think that this would affect
kite boards, so if you would speak to the issues of distinctions between what this law regulates
and other type of aircraft?
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COUNCILMAN GHOSIO: At the moment our intention is not to regulate drones, so that is not
in here and (inaudible) aircraft, we are not addressing that aside from seaplanes, this is
helicopters and seaplanes.
MR. SCHWARTZ: There's no, I don't see a definition of helicopter in here.
COUNCILMAN GHOSIO: Probably because it's fairly self-evident, I would think.
MR. SCHWARTZ: As I say, drones are essentially, could be considered helicopters and
ultralights, some ultralights.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: And the FAA considers them drones, if I am not mistaken.
MR. SCHWARTZ: No, they don't call them drones, they call them, there's another term they
use. But what about ultralight aircraft?
COUNCILMAN GHOSIO: As far as I am concerned, we are not addressing ultralights either.
it's helicopters and seaplanes.
MR. SCHWARTZ: I am having trouble with hearing you, Bob.
COUNCILMAN GHOSIO: Ultralights are not part of this package, no.
MR. SCHWARTZ: So ultralights are legal in the Town of Southold?
TOWN ATTORNEY DUFFY: This is a specific prohibition of two aircraft, if you are not taking
off in an area that it is allowed by zoning, I don't think it would be allowed by code. This is
specifically prohibiting two types, whereas generally you would have to be in the zoning district
where it is allowed. I don't think that ultralights are allowed to land or take off anywhere in the
town except maybe the pre-existing, non-conforming use of the airport.
MR. SCHWARTZ: Because I see them flying over the beach near my house and also see them
flying over the water, some of them are amphibious. I am not sure you would call them a
seaplane, I don't think I would but those are not provided for, then.
TOWN ATTORNEY DUFFY: No.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Who else would like to address the Town Board on this particular
local law? Mr. Lademann?
JOHN LADEMANN: The fire departments, when we have a helicopter coming in for a rescue,
we have to have a truck standby and a crew.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: You are excluded. The fire, emergency, public safety is excluded
from the code. Anybody else?
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COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: A couple of the letters that we got, we had discussion on
maybe adding, changing some of the wording. Did we come up with some wording, Bob?
COUNCILMAN GHOSIO: What are you referring to?
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: To the non-conforming,pre-existing that we've been....
TOWN ATTORNEY DUFFY: Inaudible.
COUNCILMAN GHOSIO: That's in there, yes.
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: It was put in there?
COUNCILMAN GHOSIO: Yes.
TOWN ATTORNEY DUFFY: If you are looking at K, aircraft being number one, no person,
firm or corporation...
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: Okay.
TOWN ATTORNEY DUFFY: We did insert except those with prior valid approvals and then
on number 3, there was a mistake (inaudible) so if the Board chooses to adopt this (inaudible)
adopted as amended.
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: Okay. Thanks.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Okay.
PAUL PAWLOWSKI: Paul Pawlowski with Mattituck Airport. I appreciate you time in this
entire matter. The only reason why we would like to have Mattituck specifically mentioned
similar to how town owned airfields are mentioned as not only for now but in the future so
there's no confusion, I could see us all getting a lot of calls five, ten years from now if one
helicopter a week lands there. if someone reads the code, not everyone knows about non-
conforming and that's why we asked that in our letter to you, just to specifically mention this
airport that has been there for many, many years. Just to reduce the confusion, that's all. Thanks
again for your time. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Thank you. Anybody else on this particular local law? (No
response)
This public hearing was declared closed at 8:06 PM
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RESULT: CLOSED [UNANIMOUS]
MOVER: Louisa P. Evans, Justice
SECONDER:Jill Doherty, Councilwoman
AYES: Dinizio Jr, Ruland, Doherty, Ghosio, Evans, Russell
Closing Comments
Supervisor Russell
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Would anyone like to comment on any issue?
COUNCILMAN DINIZIO: Mr. Deegan would like to speak.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Yes,just before we need to get back to have a vote on the helicopter
resolution. Just for the person that is taking the minutes, we need the microphone.
Nicholas Deegan
NICHOLAS DEEGAN: Yes,Nicholas Deegan, Mattituck. I would volunteer for that committee
if you choose to do one, on the housing (inaudible) if people could bring their houses up to speed
(inaudible) that's something that should be looked at instead of like (inaudible) this is what you
have got to do, we should look to help people. So I would like to be on the volunteer committee
for that if you put one together. Thank you.
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: Thank you.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Who else would like to address the Board on any issue?
Benja Schwartz
BENJAMIN SCHWARTZ: Benjamin Schwartz in Cutchogue. I had some problems over the
past week, dealing with certain property that is in between other properties and in between the
creek and the north road. This property is the subject right now of two applications, a
subdivision and a zoning application. It's a complex matter, the difficulty is aggravated by the
method of filing that is employed by the Town Clerk and others in town. I don't know if you can
tell me anything about your participation. As Town Board, you are the agency in charge of
consideration of changing the zone on this property. There's also an application to subdivide the
property before the Planning Board. The Planning Board has assumed the role of lead agency
and the Planning Board has held hearings etc. I don't believe the Town Board has considered
this issue yet. When I tried to find the file for the Town Board, no one in the supervisor's office
knew where the file was. Finally I was informed by the Planning Department that the file was
maintained in the Town Clerk's office. When I tried to go through the file and I found that
there's a version of the file scanned into laserfiche, there were documents in the physical file that
were not in the electronic file, the digital file. I brought that to the attention of the Town Clerk,
she assured me it would be looked into and the discrepancy would be remedied. I then asked her
if it would be possible to index the pile of documents, so that one might know where one
document begins and ends and the next one ends and the next one begins. Her answer was no, I
said well, why not? She said it's never been done that way. Well, you know, there was no
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zoning before 1957. There was no digital file before the current town clerk took office, with all
due respect it's bad enough in the real world to sort through the documents but when you are
trying to do it in a digital file, without even a separator between the documents, that would have
been the suggestion I would have made if I was allowed to discuss this but you know, I am not
going to take up a lot of time tonight, I have made myself available, I don't know if you
remember Supervisor Russell but when you were first elected, I came to meet with you and you
sat there scratching your head...
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Was I scratching my head or pulling my hair out?
MR. SCHWARTZ: You were rubbing your eyes and you know, you were not listening. You
told me to take my information and go to a department head, which I did. And he took sometime
maybe, this was a long time ago, how long have you been in office?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: One hundred years.
MR. SCHWARTZ: One hundred years, well, you know I have been working for over 40 years
and I have been working for the government as well as trying to work with it. I think we can do
a lot better, I am concerned that the Planning Board has apparently adopted the, well, the staff
report, current staff report I haven't seen yet because it wasn't filed on time but the prior staff
report to that begins talking about a hearing that was opened in July 2017 and closed in August
of 2015. Nobody objected to that. You know, do people even read this stuff? There was a
question raised by someone, concerned about the sequencing of these two, this bifurcated
application. The applicant came to the town, they, an attorney whose family has been practicing
law in this town for generations came to this town and presented one application, where there
should have been two and they tried to push one that should have been second in front and the
town Planning Department was alerted to this fact and warned about the ramifications of
pursuing such a impractical process and took some measures to reorder the process. However,
the concerns about sequencing and the process, the answer in the report just said, this issue has
been resolved. Well, I talked to members of the Planning staff and I understand now how they
resolved it and believe me, it's not been resolved. Now, as the Town Board that has jurisdiction
to consider the primary application which is the change of zone, has the Town Board considered
this at a meeting yet, has this been on the agenda?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: We had an application in, a request for a change of zone, we referred
it to the Planning Department for a full review and for a feedback to the Town Board but no,
that's not been scheduled for a public hearing or anything like that. The Planning Board as a
functionary measure you know, declared lead agency on SEQRA and then they are in the process
of completing SEQRA. SEQRA does not impact the decision making of this board, other than
the fact that it needs to be adopted before this board can move on it.
MR. SCHWARTZ: There's some glaring deficiencies in the SEQRA process that has been
followed and in the proposals to `complete the SEQRA process'.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: And as the lead agent, you should bring those issues to...
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MR. SCHWARTZ: No but you are a, what do they call it, an involved agency.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Yes, we are.
MR. SCHWARTZ: And with all due respect, your involvement as the primary applicant
reviewer of the primary application for the change of zone, your involvement should be not only
in deciding on the change of zone but it should be in monitoring and being aware of...
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I disagree 100 percent.
MR. SCHWARTZ: ...commenting during the SEQRA process.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I am sorry, I disagree. We'll go into that in a second. I will let you
speak.
MR. SCHWARTZ: Essentially right now the SEQRA process is proposed to be short circuited
by a determination that an environmental impact is not necessary, let me assure you that this
property that I call the Mattituck middle land because it is in between one of the most important
natural environments and assets of the Town of Southold, Mattituck creek and the infrastructure
of the North Road which is a treasure that the south fork is envious of every day and then on the
other side of it there are businesses and there are residences, though this particular property
which was split zoned many years ago and is now in the process of subdividing and changing the
zone is a critical property and it shouldnot be approved based on just, well we have to give the
owner everything that we can...
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: The Town Board has made no decision on this, so that's the
problem. If you have a problem with the SEQRA process, you bring it up with the Planning
Board. Ultimately everything that you suggest tonight, all of your comments, they would be
fitting for the public hearing that this Town Board would have to have before it can take action
on the (inaudible)
MR. SCHWARTZ: Part of the SEQRA process is to request comments from involved agencies.
Did the Town Board submit a comment?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: To suggest'that the Town Board should be involved in the SEQRA
process is absolutely inappropriate and here is why, the Town Board has to sit as an independent
decision maker on the change of zone. To suggest that we should be involved guiding the
SEQRA process is to presume that we could have literally a pre-determined result on that vote
and that is not what a Town Board's role should be in a change of zone. We should be at an
arms-length and then review all the facts at a public setting, after public hearing, publicly
disclosed and make our votes based on that. Not based on working behind the scenes...
MR. SCHWARTZ: Instead what you are doing is hiding your head in the sand when the public
hearings are proceeding. You are not playing the role that you should be playing as an involved
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agency. Not as a member of the public. You have a more significant role to play than for
example I do.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Our significant role comes (inaudible).
MR. SCHWARTZ: Your silence is deafening.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: No, well, it's supposed to be. Our role comes at the conclusion of
the SEQRA process and the recommendations coming to the Town Board. That's when we
schedule our public hearings, that's when all of our decision making would be based on the
public record that is submitted, including the Planning Board, the Planning staff, that's all part of
the public record that needs to be considered in a public hearing. You do not want Town Board
legislators mingling in the affairs of the SEQRA process behind the scenes. That is how you
influence applications in an inappropriate way. Whether it's to kill them, whether it's to support
them,to suggest that....
MR. SCHWARTZ: Nobody suggested that...
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: That's transparency.
MR. SCHWARTZ: Are you suggesting that the Planning Board is interfering, the Planning
Board is the lead agency, they are in charge of the SEQRA process and yet they will be the
decision maker on the subdivision application. In the same way the Town Board could be
involved at least in the SEQRA process, if not as the lead agency, the Town Board could easily
and may very well have missed the boat when it failed to challenge the Planning Board for lead
agency. Referral of the change of zone to the Planning Department is one thing, has this Town
Board also referred the change of zone to the Planning Board which is a frequently measure that
Town Boards will take when changing zoning. I don't know if that's happened yet?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Yes, that's exactly what happened.
MR. SCHWARTZ: To the Planning Board or the Planning Department?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: To the Planning Department however, it's the Planning Board that
makes the decision. The Town Board certainly referred the change of zone. Let me tell you,
Benja, this is something you have advocated time and time again, everything should be looked at
globally, it should not be segmented. We sent the entirety to the Planning Board so they can
view it in its global and not ,segment the review. Which you have advocated against
segmentation.
MR. SCHWARTZ: In the SEQRA process so far they have been considering the subdivision
and not the change of zone but the problem with this application is not unique to this application.
The problem goes a lot deeper, I have spoken about it before and you just don't seem to be able
to understand, there should be a different role, legally the Planning Department is one entity, the
Planning Board is another. They have different organization, they should have separate files...
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SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Inaudible.
MR. SCHWARTZ: And yet the system which I don't know if it was set up by the Town Clerk's
office or by the Town Board but is certainly, you have concurrent jurisdiction over how the
laserfiche system is used and yet you don't seem to understand it. you don't seem to understand
how you can link from the town website, say the Planning, well, the Town Board doesn't even
have anything on the laserfiche but if you want a link from the webpage, let's say the Land
Preservation Committee shouldn't be linking to the top level of the town records on the
laserfiche, you should be linking straight to the folder for the Land Preservation Committee. I
mean if people wanted to go from this building to the town annex, you wouldn't make them go
to Riverhead first. But that is what is happening digitally.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: We appreciate that, thank you.
MR. SCHWARTZ: I can help you if you need help, you don't have a web designer here. I have
made the suggestions before, I have submitted the suggestions in writing before, they've been
ignored. And yet, this continues to impact us and it will impact us forever. As soon as that
SEQRA determination is made which the proposal right now is as long as they put in sewage
treatment instead of just plain old sewage disposal,then we are going to let them develop, we are
going to say there's no possible environmental impact from putting three houses on one of the
most environmentally sensitive places in the Town of Southold, yes, there are houses up and
down Mattituck creek but we are talking about the top of the creek. Nobody ever put houses
there because it was undesirable. It's not only undesirable but it is, excuse me, what do you want
to say?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I am just saying, you are arguing on the merits of the subdivision, I
appreciate that but that's something to present to the Planning Board. We will be....
MR. SCHWARTZ: No, I am arguing to you as an involved agency that you could communicate
with the lead agency and request that certain environmental issues be considered in the SEQRA
process. Not that there be a finding that Benja's right and this is environmentally sensitive but
there be a consideration of the possibility of maybe we need to look at the subdivision of these
properties which essentially gives the owner at that point, there could be three owners and they
could all walk into the Building Department, get building permits without any further ado. The
proposals that are made to require sewage treatment and to limit the potential activities on the
property are unenforceable and ineffective. Would be unenforceable and ineffective and if you
don't and if people don't stand up now and do something now, it is going to be too late. You
could do it tomorrow, you could ask the Town Clerk to separate the files of the Planning Board
and the Planning Department. That would take a big step towards cleaning up the mess that we
call planning in the Town of Southold. Once last thought and then I will say goodnight unless
you want to continue the discussion but one of the elements of a environmental quality review
which now they are saying we are not going to need one, one of the elements which is required if
one is conducted is a consideration of preservation of the property. This issue was raised in the
scoping process to determine whether or not an environmental review was required and the
Planning Department proposed that the Planning Board answer this question we don't know. We
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don't know. Maybe we don't care but there is a town Land Preservation Department that might
consider not only preserving farmland but preserving environmentally sensitive land which also
happens to be very close to the Love Lane business district and between that New York State, is
it the New York State anchorage area...
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Federal.
MR. SCHWARTZ: Federal anchorage area. There's a lot of federal money in there and the
whole area needs to be more closely observed, understood and managed and regulated. I could
go into other examples at the mouth of the creek not just the head of the creek but please, you
know, you were elected, you are being paid. Don't wait until it's too late. Let's put zoning
before development of applications for subdivisions and what follows subdivisions is
applications for building but right now we are being asked to subdivide and rezone this without
knowing what is going to go in there. And it's very scary. We have a situation that's already,
there's already some serious problems with pollution up there and some of them have been
addressed. To give credit where credit is due, the town has invested in the boat ramp which is
not too far from that area but the other part of the creek, the head of the creek, that is the most
important environmentally. Please just don't let it get...
Supervisor Russell
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Thank you. Anybody else? (No response)
Motion To: Adjourn Town Board Meeting
RESOLVED that this meeting of the Southold Town Board be and hereby is declared adjourned
at_9:43 P.M.
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Sout old Town Clerk
RESULT: ADOPTED [UNANIMOUS]
MOVER: Louisa P. Evans, Justice
SECONDER:Robert Ghosio, Councilman
AYES: Dinizio Jr, Ruland, Doherty, Ghosio, Evans, Russell