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SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD
SEPTEMBER 8, 1993
WORK SESSION
Present: Supervisor Scott L. Harris (absent between '11:40 A.M. and 1:00 P.M.),
Justice Raymond W. Edwards (absent between 9:50 A.M. and 10:50 A.M.),
Councilman George L. Penny IV, Councilman Thomas H. Wickham, Councilman Joseph
J. Lizewski, Councilwoman Alice J. Hussie. Also present: Town Clerk Judith T.
Terry, Town Attorney Harvey A. Arnoff, Assistant Town Attorney Matthew G.
Kiernan.
9:50 A.M. - For Discussion Items: Memorandum from Planning Board Chairman
Richard' G. Ward, requesting permission for Senior Planner Valerie Scopaz to attend
a New York Planning Federation Institute conference in October (see resolution no.
19). (2) East-West Fire Protection District, Firemen's Service Awards Program -
to be held until 11:30 A.M. when a representative from the Greenport Fire
Department will be present. At 11:30 A.M. when the representative failed to
appear, the Board agreed to place a resolution (no. 23) on the agenda agreeing to
.pay .the Village 46% for the Awards Program should the Village approve the
implementation of the program. (3) Request from the Sons of Norway to use the
green area at New Suffolk Beach for a picnic. The Town Board agreed, but the
request was withdrawn later in the morning.
10:00 A.M. - John Raynor, Chief of Communications for the Southold Town Police
D~partment, met with the Board to request permission to hold a Hurricane
Preparedness Conference at .Town Hall on September 14, 1993 (see resolution no.
21). Mr. Raynor said a panel would be. made up of community and county
individuals involved in preparations for and action during a hurricane.
10:20 - For Discussion Item (4)' Request from Councilwoman Hussie for funding for
publicity and public education with regard to garbage disposition regulations and
changes. Councilwoman Hussie will prepare the literature and disseminate it to the
Board.
10:50 A~M. - Venetia McKeighan, Director of Human Services, and her colleague
Karen McLaughlin, met with the Town Board to present them with a proposal for
a Southold Town After School Activity Program to be held at the Recreation Center,
Peconic, Monday. through Friday, from 3:00 P.M. to 5:30 P.M. The program would
be self-fundin9 - $5.00 per child, $4.00 for a second child, $3.00 for a third,and
so forth on a sliding scale. Mrs. McKeighan and Mrs. McLaughlin have conducted
a needs assessment and found a large percentage of parents in need of such a
program. They expect to istart 'out with at least 30 who are signed up right now.
Mrs. McKeighan also informed the Town Board that a grant will be forthcoming from
New York Telephone to pay for chairs and tables, playground equipment and other
necessities. The Board wholeheartedly endorsed the program, and placed resolution
no. 22 on the agenda giving approval.
11:05 A.M. - Earnest Schneider and Robert Graeb met with the Town Board to
discuss firewells. Mr. Schneider advised the Board that the Planning Board wants
him. to put in a firewell on his greenhouse property because he is now subdividing
a plot for one of his .children. He said the Cutchogue Fire District is insistent on
the firewell, even though there is one near by his property on the corner of Aivah's
Lane and Route 48 in Cutchogue. Mr. Graeb said he had a similar' program when
he approached the Planning Board, because the Cutchogue Fire District required
a firewell on his property, and there are three within 1500 feet already. At the
request of the Town Board, Town Attorney Arnoff will schedule a meeting (Monday,
September 20th) and invite the Planning Board and the Board of Commissioners of
the various fire 'districts throughout the Town of Southold.
11:40 A.M. - For Discussion Items continued: (5) Appointmen~ of a part-time Clerk
Typist for the Building Department (see resolution no. 32). (6) Letter from the
Associate Right of Way Agent, NYS-Department of Transportation, Hauppauge,
advising the Town that any off premises signs proposed for Routes 25 & 48 are
subject to certain rules and regulations of the State of New York. The Town
Attorney will research the law, and ask the Board of Appeals for their opinion as
well. (7) Letter from the Southold Fire District requesting dump fees be waived
for brush that will be cleared from their future substation site on Bay Water Road.
Supervisor Harris will advised the fire district that the Town has a policy that there
shall be no waiver of landfill dumping fees. (8) Public opinion regarding household
solid waste: "By-the-Bag" vs. taxes was discussed' when Supervisor Harris
returned, and it was agreed the Town Attorney should research the possibility of
putting the question on a referendum at the November 2nd General Election. (9)
the Amnesty period for existing temporary signs expires on September 3rd.
Councilman Penny advised the Board he would like to see the period extended to
December 31st ~o give the Stewardship Task Force an opportunity to conclude their
task of formulating amendments to the sign provisions of the Zoning Code. Justice
Edwards, CoL~ncilman Lizewski, Councilman Penny, and Councilman Wickham
(reluctantly) a.qreed to the extension. Councilwoman Hussie stated she did not favor
the amnesty in the first place, and wants it to cease (see resolution no. 24). (10)
Authorize reinstatement of a landfill tipping fee (see resolution no. 26). (11)
Authorize lease agreement for a parking field (see resolution no. 20).
1:00 P.M. - Recess for lunch.
EXECUTIVi: SESSION
2:15 P.M. On motion of Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Justice Edwards, it
was Resolved that the Town Board enter into Executive Session. ~Vote of the
Board: Ayes': Supervisor Harris, Justice Edwards, Councilman Penny, Councilman
Wickham, CounciLman Lizewski, Councilwoman Hussie.---The Town Board discussed
personnel and litigation, and then went on to discuss the finalization of the PBA
contract (see resolution no. 27).
- 3:10 P.M.-- On motion Of Councilman Lizewski, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie,
it. was Resolved to continue in Executive Session to discuss the Landfill litigation.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Supervisor Harris, Justice Edward, Councilman Penny,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Lizewski, Councilwoman Hussie.
3:45 P.M. The Town Board reviewed the resolutions to be voted on at the 4:00
P.M. Regular Meeting.
3:55 P.M. - Work Session adjourned.
REGULAR MEETING
A Regular Meeting of the Southold Town Board was held on Wednesday,
September 8, 1993, at the Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York.
Supervisor Harris opened the meeting at 4:00 P.M., with the Pledge of Allegiance
to the Flag.
Present:
Supervisor Scott L. Harris
Justice Raymond W. Edwards
Councilman George L. Penny IV
Councilman Thomas H. Wickham
Councilman Joseph J. Lizewski
Councilwoman Alice J. Hussie
Town Clerk Judith T. Terry
Town Attorney Harvey A. Arnoff
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: Councilwoman Hussie and Councilman Wickham are here,
and we expect to have them join us shortly. At this time, I need a motion to
approve the audit of the bills from September 8, 1993.
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Moved by Justice Edwards, seconded by Councilman Penny, it was
RESOLVED that the following bills be and hereby ordered paid: General Fund Whole
Town bill.s in the amount of $59,064.50; General Fund Part Town bills in the amount
of $23,398.36; Nutrition Fund bills in the amount fo $4,997.36; Adult Day Care bills
in the amount of $147.65; SNAP Program bills in the amount of $712.98; Highway
Fund Whole Town bills in the amount of $5,922.54; Highway Fund Part Town bills
in the amount of $5,233.00; Ag Land Development Rights bills in the amount of
$1,250.00; Yard Waste Compost Capital bills in the amount of $17,076.12; Employee
Health Benefit Plan bills in the amount of $32,209.19; Fishers Island Ferry District
bills in the amount of $49,472.71; Southold Wastewater District bills in the amount
of $1,102.00; Fishers Island Sewer District bills in the amount of $206.00; Fishers --
Island Ferry District Agency & Trust bills in the amount of $1,253.66.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: I need a motion to approve the minutes from August 24,
1993.
Moved by Councilman Penny, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the minutes of the August 24, 1993, regular Town Board meeting
be and hereby approved.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, COuncilman Penny, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: I need a motion to set September 21, 1993, 7:30 P.M., the
next Town Board meeting.
Moved by Justice Edwards, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was
RESOLVED that the next rec~ular meeting of the Southold Town Board will be at
7:30 P.M., Tuesday, September 21, 1993, at the Southold Town Hall, Southold,
New York.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
I. REPORTS.
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Southold Town Clerk's Monthly Report for August, 1993.
Southold Town Building Department's Monthly Report for August, 1993.
Southold Town Planning Board Monthly Report for August, 1993.
Southold Town Justice Tedeschi's Monthly Report for August, 1993.
Southold Town Dog Shelter Monthly Report for August, 1993.
Southold Town Program for the Disabled Monthly Report for August, 1993.
$outhold Town Justice Edwards' Monthly Report for August, 1993.
Lawrence Healthcare CSEA Benefit Report for August, 1993.
Lawrence Healthcare PBA Benefit Report for August, 1993.
Councilmen's Reports.
Supervisor's Report.
II. PUBLIC NOTICES.
1. Suffolk County Office of the Aging Annual Public Hearing to comply with
requirements of the Older Americans Act, the Community Services for the Elderly
Program, and the Expanded In-Home Services for the ElderJy Program. The purpose
of which is to allow for public comment on the programs and services for the elderly,
on October 27, 1993, at 10:00 to 12:00 P.M., at the Suffolk County Legislative
Auditorium in Happauge, New York.
2. Conference of Recycling Technologies and Market Opportunities on
Sep..tember 20, 1993, 9:00 A.M. to 5:00 P.M. at Brookhaven National. Laboratory,
Upton, N.Y.
III. COMMUNICATIONS. None.
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IV. PUBLIC HEARINGS.
1. 4:30 P.M., "A Local Law in Relation to Special Exception Fees".
V. RESOLUTIONS.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: At this time, are there any members of the audience, that
would like to address this Board on any resolution we!Il be acting upon in the next
few minutes? Yes?
PHIL VANBOLIRGONDIEN: Phil VanBourgondien is my name. I'd like to ask a
question in regards to Resolution #2. It's about a lease extension between the Town
of Southold and Pudge Cooperation. What is the purpose of this station, this booth?
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: This facility is given to the Town for a dollar a year. They
use it as an interim office for Police Officer filling out paper work, and so on, so
they don"t have to run back to the Station to do some of their paper work on a
daily basis. There's also facilities in there.
PHIL VANBOURGONDIEN: Rest room facilities?
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: Rest room facilities, yes.
PHIL VANI3OURGONDIEN: Do we have Police booths then for the officers in Orient,
and Greenport, and Mattituck.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: Orient has the Orient Fire Department, which it uses. Police
Officers have the availability of that, and not sure about what takes place in East
Marion, but Greenport has a Village Police Department, obviously there, and so
on.
PHIL VANBOURGONDIEN: So, it's basically a place for them to have their lunch,
use the facilities.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: I don't know about lunch, Mr. VanBourgondien, but they
use it for paper work. Sometimes in between accidents they have paper work, which
they fill out very quickly sometimes to get to another facility, or another place,
and they, also use it, as I said, for rest room facilities.
PHIL VANBOURGONDIEN: I wish there were more offered to us for $1.00 a year,
more spots like that.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: We did lease it for a $1.00 a year.
PHIL VANBOURGONDIEN: It's a good lease. I'm not questioning that. I'm just
questioning w. hy we have one here on private property, where all the other facilities
are public facilites, fire departments, and so on.
TOWN CLERK TERRY: This was offered.' It wasn't sought.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: Anybody else at this time? Yes, sir?
to a resolution that we'll be .acting upon?
ALFONSE MARASEL: No. '.
It was offered.
Is this in reference
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: Can I ask you to wait until we get through that formal
portion of our meeting, and then bring this up as information in reference to any
other subject?- Thank you. There are no other individuals,, that would like to
speak. Judge Edwards, would you start with the first resolution, please?
1.-Moved by Justice Edw,ards, seconded by Councilman Wickham, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the
Town Clerk to advertise for bids for the followincj items for 1994:
Milk for the Nutrition Center
Police Department Uniform Clothing
Cleaning Uniforms of Members of Police Department
Gasoline for Town Vehicles
Heating Fuel Oil for Town Buildings
Diesel Fuel for Highway Department and Landfill
Removal and Disposal of Household Hazardous Waste from Collection Center.
Removal of Scrap Tires from Landfill
1.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewsk!,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
2.-Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Twon Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and
directs Supervisor Scott L. Harris to execute a lease extension between Pudge
Corp. and the Town of Southold for the police booth known as building number
9 as per site plan of Feather Hill, Southold, lease extend to June 3, 1994, at an
annual rental of $1.00.
2.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris.
This ~:esolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
3.-Moved by Councilman l_izewski, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and
directs Supervisor Scott L. Harris to execute a Lease Agreement between the Suffolk
County Office for the Aging and the Town of Southold, for a 1993 Ford Taurus
Suburban, to be used to provide transportation for the elderly, at no cost to the
Town, for a ten (10) year period; all in accordance with the approval of the Town
Attorney.
3.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Counci!man Wickham, Councilman Penny, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
4.-Moved by Councilman Wickham, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts, with recjret,
the resic~nation of Pamela Barney as a member of the Southold Town Stewardship
Task Force, effective August 12, 1993, and extends to Ms. Barney their sincere
appreciation for the time and expertise she devoted to the position,
4.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: With regrets, and we hope that Ms. Barney's endeavors
in the future will be as well served as they were on the Task Force, on which she
originally was appointed to.
5.-Moved by Justice Edwards, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and
directs Supervisor Scott L. Harris to execute a Notice of Award to Bourgeois &
Shaw, Inc. for the Fishers Island Airport - Elizabeth Field - Runway 7-25 and
12-30 Overlay Project, at the bid amount for Alternate No. 1 of $1,429,543.10, all
in accordance with the recommendation of the Town's consulting engineers C&S
Engineers, Inc.
JUSTICE EDWARDS: I might add on.here, that the bulk of this money, all but
about 3% or 4% is paid for by the FAA. So, this is at no cost to the taxpayers,
no cost to the mainland taxpayers. The only added amount that will be added is
to the members of Fishers Island, and the Fishers Island Ferry District. So, this
is at no cost to Southold at all.
5.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
6.-Moved by Justice Edwards, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and
directs Supervisor Scott L. Harris to execute a Cost Plus Fixed Fee Consultant
Agreement for Inspection services with C&S ~ngineers, Inc. for the Fishers Island
Airport - Elizabeth Field Runway 7-25 & 12-30 Overlay Project (NYSDOT Project
No. 0913.08), all in accordance with the approval of the Town Attorney.
6.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
7.-Moved by Justice Edwards, seconded by Councilman Wickham, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and
directs Supervisor Scott L. Harris to execute a Final Application for Federal
Assistance to the Federal Aviation Administration for a grant of $1,408,908.00 for
the Runway 7-25 and 12-30 Overlay Project for Elizabeth Field Airport, Fishers
Island; all in accordance with the recommendation and approval of the Town's
consulting engineers C&S Engineers, Inc.
7.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
8.-Moved. by Councilman Wickham, seconded by Supervisor Harris, it was-
RESOLVED that the Twon Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the
refund of $6.~;1 to Robert Casey, which sum represents the erroneous purchase
of a second. Beach Permit for one of his cars (first permit purchased on January
5, 1993, second purchased on July 2, 1993).
8.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny, Justice Edwards r Supervisor Harris.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
9.-Moved by Councilman Lizewski, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts a $6,600.00
cashier's check as a performance bond for street tree planting in the proposed sub-
division of Aliano Peconic Subdivision, SCTM# 1000-74-4-4, and directs that the
Town Clerk deposit the check into the Town's Agency and Trust Account until the
project has been completed to the satisfaction of the Planning Board.
9.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
10.-Moved by. Councilman Penny, seconded by Justice Edwards,
WHEREAS, Chapter 72, Records Management, of the Code of the Town of Southold,
provides for the creation of a Records Advisory Board, and the appointment of
individuals to said Board; now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board hereby creates a Southold Town Records Advisory
Board, and 'appoints the followin9 individuals to said Board: Town Hisotrian Antonia S. Booth
Town Senior Accountant .John A. Cushman
Councilwoman Alice J. Hussie
member of the Town Board
-Director of Program Evaluation James C. McMahon
department head
10.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny, _ustice Edwards, Supervisor Harris.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
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11 .-Moved by Justice Edwards, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and
directs Supervisor Scott L. Harris to execute a Sponsor Certification for Equipment/
Construction Contracts with regard to the Elizabeth Field Airport Runway 7-25 &
12-30 Overlay project, all in accordance with the direction of the Town's consulting
engineers C&S Engineers, Inc.
11.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
12.-Moved by Justice Edwards, seconded by Councilman Lizewski, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Baord of the Town of Southolcl hereby authorizes and
directs Sul~ervisor Scott L. Harris to execute the cc~tract between the Town of
Southold and Bourgeois & Shaw, Inc., Simsbury, Connecticut, for the Elizabeth
Field Airport, Fishers Island, Runway 7-25 & 12-30 Overlay project, AlP Project
No. 3-36-0029-08-93, NYSDOT Project No. 0913.08, all in accordance with the
recommendation of the Town's consulting engineers for the project, C&S Engineers,
Inc.
12.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
JUSTICE EDWARDS: You're keeping me busy tonight.
13.-Moved by Justice Edwards, seconded by Councilman Wickham,
WHEREAS, the Fishers Island Ferry District has altered its schedule effective June
18, 1993 by the addition of an early morning trip, and the Board of Commissioners
wishes to employ the services of an additional full-time Ferry Captain; and
WHEREAS, Kevin Moroney, who is presently a part-time employee of the District,
possesses the requisite qualifications and is available to fill the position; now,
therefore, be it
RESOLVED that Kevin Moroney be employed on a full-time basis as Ferry Captain
for the Fishers Island Ferry District, at a rate of $15.30 per hour.
13.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
JUSTICE EDWARDS: I might add, that this early morning trip leaving Fishers
Island at 6:00 o'clock in the morning has been taken very kindly by the people on
the Island, who want to go over and shop, and be back by noon, plus it's giving
the opportunity for more people to work in the New London area, and it makes
commuting a lot easier. The Ferry District only hopes that enough people will
continue to use this, so they can keep that 6:00 o'clock ferry as a permanent thing.
14.-Moved by Justice Edwards, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie,
WHEREAS, the Board of. Commissioners of the Fishers Island Ferry District, in
cooperation with the Sanger Fund and a recently launched community appeal, wishes
to make major renovations to the Fishers Island Community Theatre; now, therefore,
be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board hereby grants permission to the Board of Com-
missioners of the Fishers Island Ferry District to advertise for bids for (1) Installa-
tion of a new roof per bid specification, and (2) removal, refurbishing, and rein-
stallation of approximately six hundred (600) theatre seats per specifications.
JUSTICE EDWARDS: I will add that this is the only theatre, that the Town of
Southold owns.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: Judge, in discussion, could you tell us where your office
is?
JUSTICE EDWARDS: 'My office is in the movie theatre.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: That also is a important reason.
JUS.T.ICE EDWARDS: Yes, it is. This movie theatre was built in 1932 for the United
State Government. It has not had any major work done on it since then. The roof
is in a sad state of repairs, and of course, the seats in there are since 1932, and
one other little thing I might add, is I remember seeing the, what you call the
grand opening of the movie, the first night, the premier showing of Gone With The
Wind, and it cost me 10¢ at the time to see it, and when the World According to
Garth was filmed on Fishers Island, about 80% of it, it cost me $10.00 to see it.
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4.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
5.-Moved by Councilman.Wickham, seconded by Justice Edwards,
WHEREAS, there has been presented to the Town Board of the Town of Southold
a proposed Local Law entitled, "A Local Law in Relation to Parking"; now, therefore,
be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board hereby sets 8:00 P.M., Tuesday, September 21,
1993, Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York, as time and pla'ce for
a public hearincj on the aforesaid Local Law, which reads as follows:
A Local Law in Relation to Parking
BE IT ENACTED by the Town Board of the Town of Southold as follows:
I. Chapter 65 (Parking At Beaches) of the Code of the Town of $outhold is
hereby amended as follows:
1. Section 65-2.A. is hereby amended by addin9 the following:
(15) Indian Neck Lane, Peconic, from the 9uardrail at the southerly
terminus northerly for a distance of 250 feet.
II. .This Local Law shall take effect upon its filing with the Secretary of State.
15.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman wickham, Councilman Penny, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
16.-Moved'by Supervisor Harris, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby establishes the
followin9 199,3 budget for the Consolidated Local Street and Highwa¥ Improvement
Program (CHIPS):
Revenues:
DB1.3501 Consolidated Highway Aid $ 182,246.18
DB1.5990 Appropriated F. und Balance 13,225.48
Appropriations
DB1.5112.2 Consolidated Highway Improvement $ 195,471.66
16.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris.
. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
17.-Moved by Councilman Lizewski, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the bid
of Edward Ehrbar, Inc. for supplying the Town with one (1) Morbark Stump Buster
at a bid price of $13,800.00, all in accordance with the bid specifications.
17.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Penny, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris. No:~ Councilman Wickham.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
18.-Moved by Councilman Penny, seconded by Councilman Lizewski,
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Southold advertised for bids for a 1993
Morbark Model 1200 Tub Grinder (or equal) for the Southold Town Landfill; and
WHERE'AS, two bids were received: Fuel Harvesters Equipment, Inc. for a P.H.E.
Portable Waste Wood Tub Grinder, Model No. P12XH-575G, at a bid price of
$232,443.00 (plus $2,645.00 for optional 650 HP Engine); and from Edward Ehrbar,
Inc..for a Morbark 1200 Tub Grinder, at a bid price of ~255,901.00 (less trade-in
of $7,000.00) for a total of $248,901.00; and
WHEREAS, the Fuel 'Harvest Equipment, Inc. tub grinder does not meet the bid
specifications; now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board hereby accepts the bid of Edward Ehrbar, Inc.
for supplying the Town with one (1) Morbark 1200 Tub Grinder at a total bid
price of $248,901.00, all in accordance with the bid specifications.
18.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Cour~cilman Penny, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris. No: Councilman Wickham.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: I do not support this for basically two reasons. One is
that I'm deeply concerned about the level of bonded indebtedness, and the growth
of that indebtedness, and more importantly it's untimely. Until the Town has
decided exactly what it's going to do with these machines, I don't think we should
be in a position of bonding, so at this time I will vote against it~
COUNCILMAN PENNY: I would like to support our decision to do this with the
recommendatioi~ of the Solid Waste Task Force, that to buy this material to cover
the Landfill, that we're going to be producing virtually for nothing with this
equipment, we would have to pay $292,518.00. I made this statement last week,
and then an article appeared in the paper, which said that I-J~ad~chlep some
figures together at the very last minute,' and these figures that were concocted
by me, and I would like to reinterate that these figures were put together by the
Solid Waste Task Force in minutes of the Task Force meeting of 8/18/93. Further
Jim Bunchuck was here from our Landfill at the last meeting, and Jim Bunchuck
spent twenty minutes, or a half hour, telling us about the sorry state of the
equipment that was at the Landfill. So, I said to Jim, Jim, I said, you know it's
sounds good, but all people are reading now adays is what they read in the head-
lines, and well we do this too hastily, and let's relate this in dollars and cents, and
please, give me something for the next meeting. Jim broke down from 1990, the
routine operation of this estimated for '92, estimated for '93, and what the breakdown
time was costing the Town of Southold, and if we were to continue in using this
obsolete piece of equipment, that was being repaired over and over, agai.q, our
cost went up. from a reimbursement rate,.that we were covered under FEMA of
317.33 a ton, and that is what FEMA said that it should be costing us for this
equipment. To buy a new piece of equipment, and throwing in repair and main-
tenance, which Jim left out, because he didn't factor in the new tub grinder, he
only gave me the old FEMA numbers, would bring our cost up to $20.66 a ton. In
'93, we were spending $60.00 a ton to run this equipment. For 1993, estimated
$67.00 a ton. So, we were more or less pouring bad money right down the old
rathole, and unfortunately,, you can't operate a town that way. Now, it's been
suggested that we could nurse that equipment, and we could do just that. Well,
unfortunately we've nursed this equiPment for two years too long, and I wish these
figures had been brought to our attention, because once we went from $17.00 to
$20.00.a ton, which we should have been running, that equipment should have been
replaced two years ago, so there is the eminent pressing danger of storms coming
in. There's a moutain of brush down at the Landfill, which anybody can verify
by going down there, and looking at it, and then we have the fall clean-up again.
So, the Town of Southold at it's last meeting made a commitment, that they were
going to handle yard waste, and quite honestly we need the equipment to do it.
Thank you.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: I'd just like to comment on the fact that I'm pleased that
the Board has taken this direction. The wellbeing of the citizens of this town
should be sustained. I'm glad that Councilman Wickham is interested in bonded
indebtedness. It' nice to see you're finally interested in something like this. You
should also note that Southold has the lowest bonded indebtedness of all the towns,
Tom. Just for your information you can add it to your record book. I'm also
pleased that the Town has decided to buy the stump buster, or the actual shear,
because that's also an important piece of equipment, that's going to utilized
throughout many storms, and during the times when many trees in this area rot,
and we bring in those stumps to the Landfill. It certainly saves time on the equip-
ment to cut it into quarters, and then put it into this piece of machinery for quick
shredding. One final note, I think the safety of the people of this town is probably
tantamount upon anything else, but there's also something for the convenience and
the service, that this town has to provide, should provide, and obviously with the
direction of this Board will provide, and that's taking your leaves and brush into
our Landfill, and not having to bring them outside of our Landfill to points elsewhere,
such a Moriches. I think its' very important that we continue to give this service
to the people. This piece of equipment will insure that that will happen for many,
many years in the future. Next resolution; please. Nineteen has been asked to
be held by the Town Board. There are a number of questions, that have come
during our Work Session. W~'II. hold #19, a resolution authorizing a Planning Board
member to attend a conference. There's still a time frame for us to enact this
resolution based on the fact that October is the date, that we're talking about. It
will still have time to make reservations at our next Town Board meeting, Number
20 has been substituted. Number 20 now is for a lease agreement for Jesse Jackson.
20.-Moved by Supervisor Harris, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was
RESOLVED that the Tow~n Board of the Town of Southold hereby amends their
resolution no. 16, adopted on March 9, 1993, authorizing the Supervisor to execute
a lease agreement between between Jesse H. Jackson and Frances R. Jackson and
the Town of Southold for the parking field on the north side of NYS Route 25,
east of Beckwith Avenue, Southold, for three(3) years, commencing on May 1, 1993
and ending on April 30, 1995, to reflect a rent of $140.00 per month (rather than
$75.00), all in accordance with the recommendation of Superintendent of Highways
Jacobs.
20.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
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SUPERVISOR HARRIS: Just for some more information, this is being done in
other townships, and this Hurricane Conference is for the education, and the
safety, and the well-being of our residents to become further educated in reference
to preparedness for hurricanes, which we know are disastrous to our North Fork,
which sticks out into Long Island Sound, and into the Gardiner's Bay, and of course,
into the Atlantic Ocean. This Hurricane Conference has provided many residents
in other townships useful information, questions that they may h~ve posed, which
they did not have answered to their satisfaction. We hope that everybody will
attend this Hurricane Conference. There's been a lot of work put into this by John
Raynor, who heads our Communications Department. We have some professionals
coming in, professional weathermen. They're going to be on the panel. We!re going
to have indivi~3uais from FEMA here~- individuals for Emergency Preparedness, the
Police Department, the Highway Department, all the way down, so that this panel
will be able to answer any questions that the residents of our town may have in
relat!on to any subject dealing with hurricanes, preparedness "f such, even FEMA
investigation, and reports, and filling out an application for ~,.mbursement for
storm damage. So, we hope that the residents will attend this meeting. It's, we
think, a very beneficial meeting, and hope to have it annually provided to our
peopie.
JUSTICE EDWARDS: What time is the meeting?
TOWN CLERK TERRY: 7:00 P.M. September 14th. I need somebody to move and
second it.
21 .-Moved by Councilman Penny, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby sponsors a Southold
Town Hurricane Preparedness Conference, to be held on Tuesday, September 14,
1993, at 7:00 P.M., at the Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York.
21.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
22.-Moved by Councilman Wickham, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants permission
to Director of Human Services Venetia McKeic~han to institute a Southold Town After
School Activity Program, effective immediately, to be held at the Southold Town
Recreation Center, Peconic, New York, Monday through Friday, from 3:00 P.M.
to 5:30 P.M.; said program will be funded by a fee of $5.00 per day per child,
and will be at no cost to the Town of Southold.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: Again, in discussion, I'd like to thank the Director of
Human Services Ve McKeighan. She did a needs assessment on behalf of the Town.
It's something that obviously the people of our town, the working families of our
towh have asked for. She wanted to verify-that there was a need for such a facility,
and a time slot of two hours a day at our Recreation Center, to help the young
families, that are working today. Obviously this is the first day of school, and
after doing her needs assessment with Karen McLauglin, forty-eight people that
have a~firmatively set themselves in place for this program for two hours a day,
five days a week, which shows that with the small amount of information that she
was providing to the public, and the amount of response that once this gets out,
and we hope that through the media here today, that the message will get out,
this program should be availabe to all working families at a very affordable rate,
that many more people will take advantage of this, and we're sure that this program
is going to be a huge success in the months ahead. So, again, I commend Ve
McKeighan and her staff for her needs assessment, and her insight into this
problem, that we have been hearing about, but which we're finally addressing at
this time.
22.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Wickham, Councilman
Penny, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris. Abstain: Councilman Lizewski.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
23.-Moved by Supervisor Harris, seconded by Councilman Wickham, it was
RESOLVED by the Town Board of the Town of Southold that in the event that the
Village of Greenport approves the implementation of a Firemen's Service Awards
Program, then, in that case, the Town agrees to pay to the Village of Greenport,
through an amendment to the contract for the East-West Fire Protection District,
as reimbursement for the Village maintaining a Firemen's Service Award Program,
forty-six (46%) percent of the annual cost of maintaining said program.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: As you know, there was public information hearing held
on this. The Commissioners, which are the Town Board members wearing a number
of hats, have be~n provided with input from this by many of the residents in
East/West, and based on those recommendations, and basad on the feeling of the
need for the firemen, who serve in this district, th~ Board would like to commit
to having the Service Award Program being provided as part of the East/West
District.
TOWN CLERK TERRY: This was prepared by the Assistant Town, that you commit
to 46% of the annual cost of maintaining the program.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: Approximately 45% to 47% Of firemen outside of the
Incorporated Village of Greenport belong to the..live in the East/West Fire Protection
District o
23.-Vote o~ the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
COUNCILMAN PENNY: I would like to add that I'm a taxpayer in the East/West
Fire Protection District. We have a tax rate of about 816, or $18.00 per thousand,
which is the lowest in the Town, and when we add this Service Award Program it
will still bring us to a level that is far less than all of the other fire districts in
the area, and we're doing this as a show of support for the firemen in the East/West~
Fire Protection District. This is by no means binding on the District, or on the
Village of Greenport, because the Village of Greenport still has to vote on this as
a public issue. The East/West Fire Protection District was not able to participate
in that vote, oecause we are fire protection district not a fire district. It's a
technicality that we had to deal with, but t'm very happy to see that the Town
Board put it's support behind the people, that are protecting the homes in our
area.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: At this time I need a motion to recess for one public hearing,
that we have scheduled for the afternoon.
Mov'ed by Councilman Wickham, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that a recess be called at this time, 4:30 P.M., for the purpose of
holding a public hearing,
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
Meetincj reconvened at 4:35 P.M.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: We'll go back to the regular portion of our agenda, and
we left off at #24.
24.-Moved by Councilman Penny, seconded by Justice Edwards,
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Southold, by resolutions dated May 4,
1993 and June 29, 1993, set an amnesty period of May 4, 1993 through July 3, 1993,
and extended that period for an additional 60 days from July 3, 1993 through
September 3, 1993, during which time no appearance tickets would be issued for
sign violations regarding existing temporary signs (one sign per property) that
do not exceed six (6) square feet on either side, provided they are not on the
public right-of-way; and
WHEREAS, the Town Board feels it is in the best interests of the Town of Southold
to continue this amnesty period while the Stewardship Task Force continues their
task of formulating amendments to the sign provisions of the Zoning Code; now,
therefore, be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board herewith extends the amnesty period for an
additional four (4) months from September 3, 1993 to December 31, 1993.
COUNCILWOMAN HUSSIE: No, with an explanation again. I think the Town Code
should be enforced, and I'm against any kind of temporary adjustments. I think
it sets a bad precedent. I said,no,before. I say, no, again.
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: I'm voting, yes, with the understanding that this is just
an interim bridge condition until such time as the Board can address the Code, and
put it in a state that we're comfortable with. It will do what we want for signs.
At the moment it doesn't do that, so this is a temporary conditions, and is not
in my view, a one to establish a precedent from.
24.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Lizewski, Councilman Wickham,
Counci~'m~.n Penny, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris. No: Councilwoman Hussie.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
25.-Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Councilman Penny, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints Marjorie
Philips as a part-time Clerk Typist for the Building Department, effective immediately,
17-1/2 hours per. week, $6.50.per hour.
25.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Couocilman Wickham, Councilman Penny, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
26.~Moved by Councilman Lizewski, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the
reinstatement of the Landfill Tipping Fee charge privileges of Mark Kwasnik
(business name: Carpentry Etc.).
26.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
27.-Moved by Councilman Wickham, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby rescinds their
resolution no. 22, adopted on July 30, 1991 authorizing Supervisor Scott L. Harris
to execute the 1991-1992 contract between the Town of Southold and the Southold
Town Police Benevolent Association, Inc., and hereby
RESOLVES that Supervisor Scott L. Harris be and he hereby is authorized and
directed to execute the January 1, 1991 through December 31, 1994 agreement
between the Town of Southold and the Southold Town Police Benevolent Association,
all in accordance with the approval of the Town Attorney
27.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: We're pleased that after a long, and lengthy contract
negotiation, that this finally has been put to bed, and hepefully all parties will
agree, to this in a short time frame, and we can execute said contract, and move
on with other business of importance to the Town.
28.-Moved 'by Councilman Wickham, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and
directs Supervisor Scott L. Harris to execute the acceptance of the Conditions of
Award for the Mattituck Inlet Park Project #4013 with respect to the matching grant
of $225,000 which has been reserved by th~ State of New York Parks, Recreation
and Historic Preservation, Albany, for the acquisition of this property which is
located on Luther's Road, Mattituck, from Carey Resources, Inc.
28.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: Would the Board like to enact the Local Law we just had
a hearing on?
29.-Moved by Supervisor Harris, seconded by Councilman Wickham,
WHEREAS, there was presented to the Town Board of the Town of Southold, on
the 24th day of August, 1993, Local Law No.. 19 - 1993 entitled, "A Local Law in
Relation of Special Exception Fee"; and
WHEREAS, this Local Law was referred to the Southold Town Planning Board and
Suffolk County Depa~rtment of Planning, all in accordance with the Southold Town
Code and Suffolk County Charter; and
WHEREAS, a public hearing was held on this Local Law on the 8th day of September,
1993, at which time all interested persons were given an opportunity to be heard;
now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED that Local Law No. 19 - 1993 be and hereby is enacted as follows:
LOCAL LAW NO. 19 - 1993 --
A Local Law in Relation to Special Exception Fee
BE IT ENACTED, by the Town Board of the Town of Southold as follows:
I. Chapter 100 (Zoning) of the Code of the Town of Southold is hereby
amended to read as follows:
1. Section 100-262 (Appli~:ation; hearing; approval; violations of
conditions) is hereby amended to read as follows:
A. An application for a special exception approval shall be
on-the form for the same provided by the Zoning Board of
Appeals and shall be submitted in triplicate to the Zoning
Board of Appeals; which shall review the application for
completeness and conformity with this chapter. The Zoning
Board of Appeals shall reject the application if it is not
complete or not in conformance with the Zoning Code and shall
notify the applicant as to the reason for such rejection.
If the application is satisf~a'ctory, the applicant and the
Zoning Board of Appeals shall set the application down for
a public ~hearing. The fee for a special exception shall be
t:h~'ee tchousaf~t-dollars ~00-~) four hundred dollars
($400.), as set forth in § 100-274.
II. This Local Law shall take effect upon its filin9 with the Secretary of State.
* Overstrike represents deletion[s)
** Underscore represents addition[s)
29.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. --
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: That finalizes the regular portion of our agenda in reference
to legislation. At this time, I'd like to go out to the audience. There's a gentle-
man that had raised his hand before, during the resolution portion. Would you
please at this time make your comments?
RICK KROUCHER: My name is Rick Kroucher. I work for Fuel Harvester Equipment.
In regards to Resolution #18, yourpurchase of the tub grinder, our company
submitted the lowest bid for that tub grinder, and I found out today that it is
bein~j rejected because of the specifications. There are at least sixteen points in
our. bid package, that surpass the competitor's machine in the bid specs. Now with
some features of our machine being better, and them having better features on some
points, really where do you draw the line and decide that this machine is of more
value? I mean just because it's painted red, and not blue does that mean that our
machine is of less value? The machine that we offered to this Town will save the
town on the base. bid roughly $20,000.00. Even with the trade-in consideration
we're going to save the town roughly $13,000.00. Our company, even with the
differences, guarantees performance after it's delivered, and I just ask that this
Board will consider, reconsider it's decision, and give us some special time to look
over our bid package. It was brought to my attention today by one of the Board
members that some of the differences of our machine, and why we did not get the
award. Well, some of the differences, that he had made, were difference that weren't
even our machine, so I'm not aware of where he got his information but that was
not current information on our machine,and if they're looking at old outdated informa-
tion then that certainly is not fair to us, in not revealing the actual specifications
of our equipment that .we're offering. Thank you.
ALFONSE MARIS~AJ~J-: My name is Marissael, Orient Point. Last meeting I attended
here, a letter from Farmer Terry was read, and I have an answer to that, which
I sent to the Board members. I think you've received it. Now, this was read in
public, and I'd like to read my answer in public. May I?
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: Yes.
ALFONSE MAR, ISSAEL: Dear Mr. Terry, At the Town Board meeting of August
24, 1993 your letter was read by Mrs. Terry, a copy of which I have in my
possession. It is a pity you could not attend and I notice there were no other
farmers at the meetinB to back up your claim. You start off with glowing accounts
of your history as a young man going into the occupation as a farmer, an
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occupation which I have always admired. As a young man myself of 12, I had to
work on a farm for half my summer vacation while other kids went to the coast.
Believe me, I hated it. It was hard work. My elders thought hard work was good
to build character and responsibilities. In~ those days one had to earn rights. To
begin with, you state the bird gun was two miles from my residence. That is
incorrect. I ndeeed some other neighbors might not consider this a problem as you
say. I would like to hear from them, face to face. On your second statement,
I appreciate your efforts of installing balloons and other repellants, stating you
lost half your crops regardless. I wonder what other farmers do who don't use
that device. You stated to me on the second summer you would no longer use this
device as it was too much of a hassle, but you have not followed this promise.
Indeed, since last summer you have used two of them. I must, however, state my
appreciation to you for letting us live in peace for two summers out of seven. But,
I must remind you of the summer of 1990 when you employed it through seven
nights. I have records. Thirdly, the statement you make of never using it in
· the field near my residence is totally incorrect. The first summer you used it in
the field near my residence was not more than 100 yards. We could not escape it.
The sound waves were hitting the walls. How inconsiderate. Up until yesterday you
were using them in this area, although more muffled but the repetitive sound
remained. Fourthly, you remarked how would I feel if some pests came and des-
troyed all my shrubs and grass. I must say I would be very saddened, but that
would be my problem. I would not expect someone else to be burdened with it.
Finally, I am very much disturbed by your attitude wherein you state I should move
somewhere else if I resent you disturbing the peace. I did not purchase this pro-
perty at the time you were using this offensive device, but five years later without
so much as informing me or my neighbors, you assumed more constituttional rights
than all others. Talk about democracy, let's practice it. Yes, I am concerned about
tranquility. That's why I bought the place. I knew about farm- practices then.
I expected some inconvenience such as tractors, dust and fertilizers. I am not
trying to dhange farming. No, I will not try to solve your bird problem. Why not take
advise from other farmers? If you persist in continuing, this unholy practice, I
will visit you, again, and I trust you will act as a civilized person, perhaps we
can mend this bad feeling that has lasted so long. Now, the last few days he's
been using that gun again. So, Mr. Kiernan, last Sunday it was up until midnight.
What are we going to do about that? I can't live this way. I don't have to. I did
get.thee.Mr. Kiernan gave me the Bill of Rights, Farmer's Bill of Rights. Some
passages l'd like to point out. Farmir~g activities, I'll say part of it. Have not
increased substantially in magnitude or intensity. This was never before I moved
out there. There's another one here. Deemed to be reasonable and shall not
construe.a nuisance unless the activity has substantially adverse effect on the
public health, and safety. The right to comely use in this section, the use Of loud
irrigation pumps, and equipment, large tractors, numberous farm laborers, and the
application Of fertilizers, all for the purpose of producing from land products such
as vegetables. It doesn't mention anything about bird guns here. When foregoing
usgs in the activities in included when reasonable and necessary for particular farm.
Bird gun is nothing reasonable. One conduct of generally accepted agricultural
practices. I think that's an accepted agricultural practice. This w~is dated 1982.
That's before any bird guns were on Long Island. So, there we'are. I would like
to ..the transcript of July 17, 1990, when he did it at night. This is a statement
bY Councilman Wickham. I have two comments. First, I don't understand why any-
body would anybody would use them at night. Secondly, I don't understand what
crops they would be using them for in July. Now I think this is harassment, and
harassment is against the law.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: Judge, did you want to say something.
JUSTICE EDWARDS: Maybe Tom could tell me. Tom, these are operated by propane?
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: Some of them.
JUSTICE EDWARDS: Okay, if the propane ones are operated, does it just build
up the pressure, and let the propane go, or does it actually fire off the propane?
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: I don't Know the particular one of Terry's. But, there
are kinds that slowly build up to a point, and then..
JUSTICE EDWARDS: Does it ignite, or iust release?
COUNCILMAN.WICKHAM: No, there is an ignition.
JUSTICE EDWARDS: There is an ignition involved with that?
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: Harvey, would you like to comment?
TOWN ATTORNEY ARNOFF: No.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: I think, Mr. Marissael, that the last meeting Mr. Van-
Bourgendien, Bob VanBourgendien was in attendence, and he mentioned to try again
to talk to the individual, and resolve your differences. I still would like to see
that happen. I still feel that that could happen. I hope that for your sake, and
Mr. Terry's sake, that you can come to that agreement in reference to the use of
this equipment, as far as an operation for farming goes in the 1990's.
ALPHONSE MARISSAEL: I just spoke to Mr. Terry this afternoon on the way out
here. He said, no. It's very difficult, and he works so hard. I believe in working
hard myself. I'm not going to complain about it. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: Thank you. All the way in the back?
PAUL SPONZA: Paul Sponza from Mattituck. The gentleman was bringing up some-
thing that I wanted to bring up, too..A year ago I talked to someone on the Board
about the same thing. I live in an area where there is a vineyard, and the practice
:with the vineyard is to fire off this cannon. In addition to firing off the c~annon
they also set off fireworks, and encouraged their workers to beep their horns as
they're riding through the fields. So, it's a little bit ridiculous as far as l~he noise
pollution thing. As far as going, and talking to them, I don't think any differences
are going to be settled. I think the farmer is going to do what he wants ~ do
to raise his crops, regardless of his surroundings. There are a lot of diff~.~rent
ways you can..I think we should do something in a different way to approa:h
something, and when we have no Noise Ordinances, things like that. I thir k we
should have some kind of an ordinance. When I moved out here, I moved out here
when I was young, it was farmland. The only vineyard, that was out here was
Hargrave's, and it was also a practice at Hargrave's to beep their horn, an:l do
that kind of thing. The property that I live on, when I originally moved h~re,
is'like one mile away as the crow flies, from that area. That used to be just
potato farming. In addition to that, there's another problem I have in the ~ame
area. It's unfortunate, that I haven't talked to the Fire Department yet, bpt they
have a fire whistle in a residential area. Now, in this age of technology, and every-
body's wearing beepers, or phones, or whatever the heck they call those things,
I don't see the need for having that whistle go off in a residential area. There's
no work area. There's no people inside, and everybody's attached to the thing
anyway. What's the use of having this thing go off? I probably should talk to
the Fire Department first with that, but still it's a noise thing. Now, in my area
this is what I have to deal with. I have to deal with the fire alarm going clff.
This guy now, it's getting to be harvest season, and I've got the fire works going
off, the cannon going off. It's a really ridiculous, and I brought this up qver a
year ago', and I was told, well, they have to raise their crops. That's fine. I mean,
I had to listen to the potato trucks, and you know the pump irrigation, pump and
stuff like that. But, that's not a problem. You can get used to the irrigation pump.
It almost becomes like that noise in the background. It's a different thing when
that cannon goes off though. You can actually feel that. It's different. A lot of
you know how I work. I'm one of the fortunate people. I get to wake up al~ the
crack of 10:00, 10i30, because I work 'late. So, when that thing is going off at
6:00 o'clock in the morning, it's a problem. The other thing I wanted to br~ing
up is, as you see I've been out of it for a little while, was the sign amnesty thing.
I don't know exactly what you're talking about, but I wanted to bring up a point
that I had attended a Planning Conference, that also the Stewardship Task Force
did a few months ago at Mattituck Vineyard. One of the people, that brought up
some stuff in there, was about signage, and she had video tape of certain ~reas
up island, and their signage. Now, !' live in Mattituck, and I have to now look
at you know, North Fork Bank. Maybe we should name Mattituck. North Fork Bank
now. I don't know why that sign is there. Part of what this woman showe~l in
the video was the same type of thing on the railroad trestle, except it said ~vlcDonald's.
Of course, we didn't let McDonald's in, why should we have this North Forl~ sign
now, North Fork bank sign, now? I don't think it's even 150 yards, or ma~b 200
yards, there it is again, big sign, North Fork Bank. Go down a little bit further,
then we got North Fork Bank again. Go back up a little bit, we've got one in
Jamesport, and I understand that we may not have the authority to do something,
because it's owned by Long Island Railroad. I don't know what we can do, or what's
going to happen, but when people come into Southold, and I love Southold, when
we come in here basically, you know, Mattituck is what they see first, when you
get out here, and if you drive down Mattituck all you see is all the signage. It's
a little ridiculous. I just wanted to express my opinion on that. You don't see
it in other towns as bad yet, but that one strip in Mattituck.
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SUPERVISOR HARRIS: Paul, in reference to the sign on the overpass, the rail-
road trestle, certainly our Town Attorney can tell you what has happened, or what
the Town has looked into. I think you pretty well spelled out, that it is railroad
property, but I certainly would let the Town Attorney, if he would like to, respond
upon that a little bit at this time in reference that one aspect of your statement,
in reference to the North Fork Bank sign. I would be glad to allow him to say a
few words, if he'd like at this time.
TOWN ATTORNEY ARNOFF: Just briefly, Paul, there's a jurisdiction dispute going
on right now between us, the MTA and their attorneys, as to whether or not we
have authority to limit that signage, that particular signage. It's a on~]oing matter
in my office, and there's no resolution that's been reached yet. We~re still exploring
other avenues. There's some conflicting case law in regard to their right to do this
very act, and it's a lower court case. It's a question of whether we want to under-
take that type of litigation at this particular point. That's one of the issues that's
being discussed. It hasn't been resolved, and it's something that is actively being
pursued by our office, that particular sign. I'm familar with that. It doesn't really
answer your question, but it really is something that we are dealing with, and we're
not just ignoring.
PAUL SPONZA:' I would say, that North Fork Corp, that it's bad public relations
on their part.
TOWN.ATTORNEY ARNOFF: I couldn't agree more.
PAUL SPONZA: Especially where they're advertising the community bank, or some-
thing like that, it's the North Fork. That the one that really bugs me, but it's
not just that one. It's the rest of them, and you know, it's the real ~state signs,
and this sign, it's the Lion's Club sign. I have no problems with these agencies,
and these businesses, and those people, but we have to start to limit it. I don't
know what the laws are, if you've got them, and I could come in, and start to read
them, I would appreciate that.
TOWN ATTORNEY ARNOFF: Stop in my office in Riverhead. I have a copy of
the Town Code there, if you'd like, if you're in Riverhead, or there's certainly
one for you to look at in office here in Southold.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: Anyone else like to speak, at this time?
NICK MARTINSEN: Supervisor Harris, and Town Councilman, my name is Nick
Martinsen. I live at 1560 Bailie Beach Road in Mattituck. I have come for a
problem that's existed for many years in the Bailie Beach section. Does everyone
on the Board know where Bailie Beach is? It lies east of the Mattituck Inlet, and
wes. t of Mattituck Park. That is the Park District's property. My concern is not
with the Park District's property, but with Bailie Beach Road. Bailie Beach is
on the Sound. Bailie Beach runs off of Wickham, Grant, and Reeves, and proceeds
west and comes down the bottom of the hill, and makes a sharp turn, and proceeds
north to the Sound. For many years, I've been a home owner there for fifteen
years, and I bring my complaints with the approval of the Bailie Beach Homeowners'
Asssociation. I have a petition here from them. I could read the petition. We the
members of the Bailie Beach Homeowners' Association present this petition requesting
the action by the Chief of Police, and the Town Board to end illegal activities at
Bailie Beach, Mattituck. At the present time there are large numE)ers of yout~g
adults, congregating after the curfew. I remind you that the Town law is, I checked
with the Clerk's Office, which was passed many years ago, that no parking from
10:00 P.M. to 7:00 in the morning. They are congregating after the curfew. They
are consuming alcoholic beverages, and it's suspected of having drugs up there.
They are playing radios excessive loud, and are speeding up and down Bailie Beach
Road recklessly, and in the vicinity. There is fighting, screaming, and foul language
and urinating. They urinate there, and then they throw their bottles, break them,
and throw their cans, and whatever food is there. To recify-the situation we
propose and request .... the installation of a strong, durable sign. Now, the Town
comes along, and puts a sign. It's a little, cheesy little sign. I mean a little sign,
that says no parking 10:00 to 7:00, these kids rip it down. The sign is just going
on the barrier, and then they rip it down. What we're requesting is, is a good
sign there, a durable sign that will last and placed in a postion large enough that
everybody can see it, and placed in a position that the Town Highway Department
puts in, and stands any obuse. Right? The sign wou'ld say until 7:00 in the morning,
and no drinking in this area. We request the Police enforce the Town Ordinances
by regular patrols of the area after 10 P.M. See, the Police come down there, they
get rid of the kids, and that's it. .These kids are not over 21. They're beween
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18 and 21. Now, the Police Department nave been called all this past week to come
and clear them out. I know this is the end of the summer, when somebody is going
to say, well, you should have came before. Right? It will have less appeal on for
next spring, but I'm laying the groundwork on this. I'm coming here before you
with a petition signed by members of Bailie Beach Road, asking for your help. Now,
I called the Police Department, the Chief of Police, and told him of the people that
signed the petition. The Police Chief, they said in his office they would call us
back. No response from the Police Chief. Now, I think that's terrible that the
Police Chief, if they say he's going to call, they should call us back. Now, we're
asking that you install speed bumps, and signs. I also did a survey from August
29th to September 4th, the number of vehicles that pass my home, going out to
the beach, is 370 a week, returning is 394 because there is parking of fishermen
down there. By the survey 764 cars pass my house from 8:45 P.M. to 12:00 A.M.
I called the Police Department on most nights. The Police Department came, just
clears them out, and then they come back again. Now, the Police Department should
issue summons for parking after 10:00 P.M., and there's drinking up there. The
Police Department is not doing their job in that vicinity. We have a good Police
Department. Don't get wrong. I was in the Criminal Justice System, and I'm retired
from the Criminal Justice System, Mr. Ivello, who is my neighbor next door, we're
two houses away, is a Suffolk County Police Officer, and New York State Drug
Enforcement Officer, so therefore we're asking for help from the Town Board, and
from the Police Department that you can do something. If you want to look at my
.survey I have the survey of every half hour of how many cars pass, who went up
to the beach, and came down again. I'm living there fifteen years. The Association
I want to bring up, they're not summer homes anymore, little cottages. Up to
$45,000.00 in my home, and I'm still not finished. My neighbor put in $60,000.00
Mr. Ivella put in about $50,000. Mr. Wolf has put in $60,000. worth of work in
his house. We don't pay anymore $4,000. total tax to the town. We now pay almost
$15,000. for taxes, so we'd at least I'd like some service for our tax money. Thank
you.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: in reference to the fifteen years that you've liven in the
present location, could you tell us how the traffic pattern has been over that fifteen~-'-
year period?
NICK MARTINSEN: This year the traffic pattern from 8:45, it hasn't really
changed. It's been that way all along. There's one group of high school students,
it starts with about June 15th, and goes on into September. It's increasing. Now,
I only came and did a survey at the end of the summer. I'm telling you this
summer with the weather we had, it was horrendous, every night. Because I was
in Law Enforcement ] don't like to bust the Policemen's horns, but sometimes they
have to do the job.
JUSTICE EDWARDS: What was it like ten years ago?
NICK MARTINSEN: It was the same ten years ago, but I wasn't retired then. I
came out on weekends or on the holidays. But, now, I live here for six months
a year. l'm here at the Ist of May, and leave right after Election Day. Like I'm
saying, this is not summer homes anymore. This is all yearround homes. My home
is all yearround, and I don't live here all year round, but if I had to I could be
here all year round. So, we're just asking you for something. As I say, this
survey is only at the end of the summer. It doesn't take Labor Day into it. It
was horrendous this year. Of course, we said, maybe some of the Police will come
around. They come around. They just chase them away. They chase them away.
They come right back again.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: Could we have a copy?
NICK MARTINSEN: You can have a copy of the survey. You can have a copy of
this. I'm asking you. I'm pleading with you to solve the situation down there. The
problem here with the Police Department, is it's very nice to hire local people. I
think it's great~ but the problem here in the Town of Southold is that thePoliceman
has a brother, .a brother-in-law, his cousin, are the ones that are violators, and
do not enforce the law. Now, I was a New York State Marshall. There were many
things I had to do, which I didn't like to do, but had to enforce the law, and that's
what I'm saying. Enforce the law and we can clean this area. Thank you very much.
LOUISA EVANS: I'm Louisa Evans from Fishers Island, and I'd like express a
concern with the way the law is written on the pay for bag proposed law. The
law keeps referring to the Town. Nowhere in there does. it refer to separate
garbage districts, that the Town of Southold has set for the Long Island Town's
hamlets. I guess I have some concerns that, I'm sure your intent was that this
doesn't apply to Fishers Island, but the way the law is written It could apply to
Fishers Island.
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TOWN ATTORNEY ARNOFF: Are we talking about the per bag?
LOUISA EVANS: Per bag.
TOWN ATTORNEY ARNOFF: That's not enacted yet
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: It's a question about it, that she's asking.
TOWN CLERK TERRY: It's on the table.
TOWN ATTORNEY-ARNOFF: It's oo"the table, i don't know that the final..
LOUISA EVANS: I'm just expressing a concern, that the way that the proposed
law is written, it keeps-referring to the Town will do this, the Town has do this,
and I want to make sure .that Fishers Island is excepted from that, either by the
wording..i don't know what your garbage district is called now, or if you can accept
Fishers Island garbage to'come in. I presume the intent was not to include Fishers
Island.
TOWN ATTORNEY ARNOFF: Correct.
LOUISA EVANS: When I read it throu§h, I say, this could apply to Fishers Island,
and are we all going to have to pay for that, when our system seems to working?
TOWN ATTORNEY ARNOFF: No, if that line change .was appropriate, I~'ll take
another look at it, we'll make the appropriate change. If that's the change that's
required in order to avoid any ambiguity; we'll do it. I don't-think it's in absolute
final form, as far as where we're going with this legislation anyway. Thank you
for your comments though. I appreciate that.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: Anybody else at this time?
PHIL VANBOURGONDIEN: Phil VanBourgondien. I don't like to.give you the
impression that I'm gadfly, or a curmudgeon. I'm seems that I'm getting up here
lately asking a lot of questions, and I don't intend to be one. I basically ask
questions, because I'm interested in local government, and I'm interested from the
standpoint of a taxpayer, and any time I ask questions it's with a thought in mind,
that containing the taxes if at all possible. I just Want to make a statement or two.
I had occasion to be up at the Town Hall this past week in two different departments,
and I have compliment the employees of the Town Hall. They were courteous. They
were friendly. They were informative,and helpful in every way. They're whole
attitude, I thought was magnificent, and I think that they should be complimented
on the way they treat the taxpayer. I ask a question, as you probably know from
past, the P.B.A. and the Highway Department are kind of close to my heart, and
I wonder if the P.B.A. contract is going to be made public?
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: It's public.
PHIL VANIBOURGONDIEN: Soon?
TOWN CLERK TERRY: Right now.
TOWN ATTORI~EY ARNOFF: It's been signed. It's a matter of public record now.
TOWN CLERK TERRY: Actually once the resolution is on the table, and it's been
passed. You're welcome to look at it.
PHIL VANBOURGONDIEN: My final thought was, I wondering if you have given
thought to packing the Town Hall at your next meetings by possible offering the
Olympus Corporation a fifty'acre plot of land in the Town of Southold, it's a nice
clean office operation employing 200 people in an office building.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: It's a great labor pool. Right, Mr. VanBourgondien?
PHIL VAN'BOURGONDIEN: It's a great labor 'pool. It's a clean industry. It will
add to the tax base tremendously, and you'll fill the Town Hall up to overflowing
when you have the meeting.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: Mr. VanBourgon. dien, in reference to Olympus, not to
belabor a point, I understand that many County Executives, not only Suffolk County,
but Nassau County Executive, and the Ii.keF are extremely disappointed that they
couldn't come to an agreement to have Olympus locate on Long Island. There were
a lot of, as you know, give and takes, a lot of nimbyism, or nimtoism, which i~ not
in my term of office, which commencerated with the discussions between the major
cooperation. ~'m disappointed that it stay on Long Island, also, because I think
that that's a hich tech industry, that certainly would have served Long Island well,-
and the people who live on Long Island, and those who would like to locate here.
It would have provide tremendous emp!oyment in these economic times, and I hope
that isn't a fai accompli. I would assume at this point, that it is, but I would hope
that at some point somebody could get those talks initiated again, because even
though $outhold would love to have something like Grumman Data Systems, which
was high tech, clean, would employ a thousand people out here in an industry that
is really a high paying industry. IJnfortunately, you know, there are people that
are making provisions, or coming before this town making those ~ypes of offers
because of ~our geographic location, and our proximity to the city and points else-
where, where many of the labor pool may come from. So, I appreciate the gesture.
Certainly, tl4e Town of Southold could use a major employer at this, such as Olympus
could provide them. Thank you
PHIL VANI3OURGONDIEN: Those west end towns are really going after finding a
place for Olympus at this point. I was joking.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: I understand, i knew you were. Thank you. Is there
anybody else that would like to address this Board? Yes, sir.
JIM HOCAIq: Supervisor Harris, members of the Town Board, Ladies and Gentlemen.
My name is Jim Hogan. I represent Edward Ehrbar, Inc., a local construction
equipment distributor, and I'd like to address Resolution #18, the bid on the tub
grinder. We submitted a bid for a Mobark 1~200. Although we weren't the Iow
bidder. The Iow bidder was approximately 5% below our bid. [3ut they offered
a machine that was approximately 20% lighter. Translated into price per pound,
we were $4.70 per pound, whereas;they were $5.34 per pound. They also offered,
as an option, a machine that within a thousand pounds of our unit~ but it was
$263,000.00 was the bid number. AIso~ l'd like to say that we have many state of
the art features, that was heavier duty, and more durable use. It also pulled out
approximately twelve items, where they don't meet this package as set forth by the
Town. I would like to submit that to the Town Board in support of your resolution.
JUDGE EDWARDS: You said twelve i~ems. Number two, was it in the specifications?
What was the thickness of the walls? That was supposed to be in the specs.
JIM HOGAN: Yes, the thickness of the wall in the specs were supposed to 3/8th
of an inch, and the walls of the Fuel HarveSter machine were only a 1/4 of an inch.
JUDGE EDWARDS': Did the specifications also say that it was supposed to be a
hydraulic system for drive, instead of a belt drive?
JIM HOGAN: Yes,' it did.
JUDGE EDWARDS: I'm sorry. I didn't read the specs on it, but I'm going over
this sheet her'e, and I had a question at the Work Session on the sheet of these
answers that come up, and if at any time the representive from Fuel Harvester wants
to come in, and counteract any of these statements, please, feel free.
COUN. CILMAN WICKHAM: Has he seen them?
JUDGE EDWARDS: He must have seen the specs.
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: Has he seen..?
RICK KROUCHER: Our reply to your bid request, and as far hydraulic system,
that's old technology in that old W.H.O. machine, you guys have been running here
for five, what you purchased from our company. Three to four years ago we went
with a standard hydraulic drive system, and standard tilt tubs system, and standard
hydraulic pulled conveyers on all of our equipment, so if you're comparing our
machine, and using belt driven technology, as far as the tub goes, then that's
outdated technology.
JUSTICE EDWARDS: I'm comparing the two bids to the specifications.
RICK KROUCHER: Well, you'd have to compare the actual bid specs, and not the
reply from our competiter.
JUSTICE EDWARDS: In the bid specs did it specify hydraulic drive?
RICK KROUCHER: I don't recall seeing that. The bid specs (tape change) You
look at all the other manufacters of tub grinders, and our classifications which
Morbark. would be included in our class, they're the only manufacter 'offering that
type'of_ .drive sys_ter.1, it wo~d make it very hard for us to offer it. If you were
to purchase a car, ~nd said, we only want a rotary engine, well, you just excluded
every other manufacter in there by saying this is the type of engine you want for
your unit.
JUSTICE EDWARDS: It kind of looks like to me then, that Morbark is the one that
wrote the specs on this, and it's very difficult for you to meet those specifications.
RICK KROUCHER: That's why I stood up earlier, and said you didn't notice the
difference in the specs. We have offered the town a machine of equal quality with
different features, so some of ours will be, I think, much superior, built to enhance
production, and safety, of your operation, and some differences are, you know,
does it really matter in a long run? But, as far as being an equal piece of equip-
ment, and saving the town moriey, I feel that that's what we've done.
JUSTICE EDWARDS: Going on Number 2, the wall thickness, the difference between
3/8th and 1/4 of an inch when start pounding the rocks and stones along with the
brush that goes in there, that extra 1/8th of an inch does make .a difference.
RICK KROUCHER: We've been involved in manufacturing of tub grinders for over
12 years. When it originally came out, we were luck to _f.i. nd grinders with 10 gauge
steel, and through our years development of tub grinders, we realized that you
need a certain quality to make a grinder last' seven or ten years. I know you've
your W.H.O. for five years, and it's pretty used up. Seeing what features work,
and wha't features didn't we made adjustments, and we felt that 1/4 inch with your
type of an operation, is more than enough steel to withstand the grinding. But,
now, if you look on other specifications, like in the grind box, they're offering
only 3/Sth inch replaceable wear plate. Ours is 3/4 of an inch. It's almost twice
as much, and that's where your heavy use is taking place is within the mill. So,
we put'our beef and muscle were it's needed, right in the mill area.
JIM HOGAN: That's really not true, because our hammers are thicker. We offer
a 1½ inch hammer, and they do not.
RICK KROUCHER: Excuse me, we offer an inch and 3/4 hammer. There's is an
inch and a half according to their literature. Their machine is actually 9,000 lbs.
lighter than ours. So, that weight has to come out of somewhere.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: I want you to know, that I'm allowing this forum. This is
a very unique forum. I normally never allow two people at the same time at the
podium to go back and forth, tic for tac. The Board had a recommendation pre-
sented to it..The Board acted upon the recommendation, which was presented.
Judge Edwards, if you would like to engage conservation with these gentlemen
after this, certainly feel free to do so. Thank you.
JUDGE EDWARDS: Thank you, gentlemen.
JIM HOGAN: I just ask you to review the specs, and see if what we're offering
is of equal value for less money, and I appreciate the time that the Board gave
us, and some of the. other Town employees.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: If there's no other questions of this Board, I'll entertain
a motion to adjourn it.
JUSTICE EDWARDS: I just have one little additive. A letter came in yesterday
from our Harbormaster on Fishers Island,' in regards to the boating season, which
is more or less completed, and it's just some pertinent information here that is
I think, good to go on record. Number one, is the Fishers Island boaters over there
came in with mooring permits of $I1,160.00, which goes into the General Town Fund.
Of course, we get our fair share over on the Island with the Harbormaster and the
Bay Constables, that come out of that. It was an increase of over $3,100.00 from
last year. The seasonal Town markers were put in. There were very few that
had to be replaced this year, which was another saving. They're doing a good job
putting those markers down, and all and all I think the Harbormaster John Clavin
on Fishers Is. land could be commended for the job that he did in policing the harbor,
as a Harbormaster, and Bay Constable, and Thomas Doherty, also, a Bay Constable
for the work that they did in our very, very extremely busy West Harbor, and
when you consider that 80%, ] would say 80%, of the boating ac1~i¥ity in West Harbor
are people from the Connecticut shore, that come in there on the weekends, and
overnighters coming up from western tong Island Sound, and some people from the
East, Newport, and the Vineyard, coming in, and I think the Harbor was run
extremely well this summer. Thank you, Scott.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: Entertain a motion to adjourn? Thank you for your partici-
pation. Have a nice day.
Moved by Councilman Wickham, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board meeting be and hereby is adjourned at 5:30 P.M.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Councilman Wickham, COuncilman Penny, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Harris.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
WORK SESSION
5:40 P.M. Present: Supervisor Scott L. Harris, Justice Raymond W. Edwards,
Councilman George L. Penny IV, Councilman Thomas H. Wickham, Councilman
Josep~n J. Lizewski, Councilwoman Alice J. Hussie, Town Clerk Judith T.
Terry.---The Town Board had a brief meeting to discuss soliciting proposals
for trucking garbage out of Southold Town for a- six month: ':-period. Tony
Conetta, Dvirka & Bartilucci is in the process i'of preparing formal specifications
for long term trucking. Councilman Wickham stated he wants to go to formal
bid even for the short term.---It was agreed the Board should meet at 1:30
P.M. on September 10th for a work session and possible special meeting to
discuss solid waste. Mr. Conetta and the Town's Special Counsel Frank Isler
will be invited to be present.
6:00 P.M. - Work Session adjourned.
/ ~--Judith T. Terry ~'
Southold Town Clerk