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Business Community Input Traffic Summit
Peconic Lane Community Center
Peconic, NY
June 27, 2018 – 1:00 PM
Attendees
Town of Southold
Deputy Supervisor, Councilman William Ruland
Councilman James Dinizio
Police Chief Martin Flatley
Town Engineer James Richter
Transportation Commission
Chairman Neboysha Brashich
Nick Mazzaferro
Thomas F. Fox
Village of Greenport
Trustee Mary Bess Phillips
Business Community
Mattituck Chamber of Commerce – David Perrin
North Fork Chamber of Commerce – Andy Binkowski, Cross Sound Ferry
Mattituck – Laurel Civic Association – Chris Shashkin
Public
Carol Forestieri – Southold
Press
North Fork Patch – Lisa Finn
Suffolk Times – Kelly Zegers
Proceedings
At 1:08 PM, Councilman Ruland welcomed the attendees and provided background for
the meeting.
He recapped the February 28, 2018 meeting with state, county and local government
representatives. This meeting is the second of a series, with the third meeting to be
scheduled with the public to discuss traffic issues on the North Fork.
Councilman Ruland then asked the business attendees to address traffic issues.
David Perrin observed that seasonal traffic congestion had already started at the usual problem
locations. He also noted that the Mattituck Strawberry Festival had occurred without major
problems and that the Mattituck Street Fair had been moved to Old Sound Avenue to alleviate
traffic issues on Love Lane and adjacent roadways. He added that the striping and signage
improvements to Old Sound Avenue have had a traffic calming effect.
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Councilman Ruland noted that there had been substantial discussions with the
Mattituck-Laurel Civic Association and others concerning the need for those
improvements. He also observed that Love Lane in Mattituck has become a
“destination” and that improper parking (e.g. more than 18 inches from curbs) often
impedes traffic flow.
Councilman Ruland also suggested that local businesses should consider flexible
pricing based on different days of the week. Moreover, while tourists are attracted by
the rural character of Southold, traffic gridlock might lead to a loss of business by
dissuading visitors.
He observed that free parking has been abused and that the Town must work within its
available resources to control that problem. The employment of additional Traffic
Control Officers should lead to better enforcement of parking regulations and the
introduction of paid parking might be a consideration. In the meantime, the Dean
Parking Lot in Mattituck will be reconfigured and a grant should be sought to assist with
that project.
Chris Shashkin observed that visitors expect to pay for parking.
Councilman Ruland and Tom Fox shared their respective experiences with parking in
Lake George, NY. In that village, parking meters are placed on main and secondary
streets in the business district with two-hour limits.
Chairman Brashich noted that some local business owners and their employees tend to
park all day on the street in front of those businesses.
Trustee Phillips advised that rigorous enforcement of parking regulations in the Village
of Greenport has resulted in improved traffic flow.
David Perrin suggested that school parking lots should be used for parking with
connecting North Fork Shuttle stops at those locations. However, he also observed that
visitors generally prefer to use their own vehicles as much as possible.
Tom Fox suggested that local businesses should incentivize patrons to use alternate
means of transportation.
Councilman Ruland added that Cross Sound Ferry traffic is an issue contributing to
congestion.
Trustee Phillips noted that the number of renters in Greenport now exceeds that of year-
round residents.
Chairman Brashich observed that local residents often have visitors who park on streets
in front of those residences.
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Tom Fox noted that it appears that the LIRR’s added service has brought increased
ridership.
Trustee Phillips observed that many businesses have instituted longer hours of
operation due to increased visitor traffic.
It was noted that the frequency of Suffolk County Transit’s S92 bus service has
increased and that SCT is considering the usage of smaller vehicles. However, it was
also observed that evening service hours should be extended and that buses should
stop at LIRR stations.
Chairman Brashich observed that SCT has instituted the “RIDER” app, which provides
estimated arrival times for riders awaiting buses.
Tom Fox observed that fare subsidies will probably continue to be required for all
modes of local transit services.
Carol Forestieri suggested that more advertising would be helpful in publicizing transit options.
Trustee Phillips noted the emergence of Uber and Lyft as alternative transportation
options, while David Perrin observed that there was only sporadic availability of those
services and that riders should note drivers’ names for future service. It was also noted
that there was an underserved demand for taxi services, particularly during late evening
hours.
Councilman Ruland suggested that visitors should be encouraged to innovate in
planning their day trips.
Councilman Ruland and Tom Fox recounted their individual experiences in visiting Lake
George, NY. In that village there are parking fee kiosks on the main thoroughfare and
adjacent streets, with free seasonal shuttle buses provided for those parking.
It was also noted that local school districts have been reluctant to allow non-school-
related parking at their lots.
Tom Fox suggested that a visitors’ center with a significant amount of parking for day
trip visitors to both the North and South Forks should be considered. Shuttle buses
could be utilized to move visitors further east along Routes 25 and 27 or to water taxi
terminals serving selected Peconic Bay destinations.
However, one of the attendees questioned the effectiveness of that suggestion, while
David Perrin suggested that parking at the Splish Splash or adjacent venues in Calverton.
Trustee Phillips suggested that mini bus shuttles should be employed in moving visitors.
David Perrin noted that the parking and pedestrian arrangements at the recent U.S. Open Golf
Tournament in Shinnecock Hills had been successful and suggested that a temporary
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pedestrian bridge at the Harbes venue on Sound Avenue might be considered. However, that
suggestion did not gain any traction in the discussions.
Chris Shashkin suggested that a roundabout should be considered at the Harbes venue.
However, Town Engineer Jamie Richter noted that the available roadway on Sound Avenue
permitted only single traffic in each direction. Chairman Brashich recalled that a proposed
roundabout at Cox Neck Lane at the western end of CR48 in Mattituck was estimated to cost
more than $6,000,000.
Councilman Ruland noted that the EPCAL site in Calverton has an LIRR spur and that
parking at that venue may be an option for day trip visitors. He added that LIRR service
to the North Fork is underutilized.
Observing that “change is constant,” he noted that both Hampton Jitney and Cross
Sound Ferry have adjusted their services to meet the demands brought by changing
travel patterns. Citing the limited success in having bus shelters placed on SR25, he
suggested that better collaboration is necessary between all levels of government in
meeting the challenges of change.
Chairman Brashich suggested the business community representatives in attendance
should brief their respective Chambers of Commerce and Business Improvement
Districts about the ideas discussed. Moreover, “thinking outside of the box” should be
encouraged by all interested parties.
Trustee Phillips observed that the LIRR had utilized additional shuttle trains on the
Ronkonkoma – Greenport line during special events such as the annual Greenport
Maritime Festival and the occasional visits by “Tall Ships.”
Councilman Ruland noted that there must be a willingness to explore change. He cited
Suffolk County Transit as having adjusted the schedules of the S92 on the East End
and had installed bike racks on its buses to accommodate increased demand for that
bike riders. Similarly, after discussion with local governments and businesses, the LIRR
had adjusted it schedules on the North and South Forks to better serve the specific and
separate needs of ridership on each line.
David Perrin agreed that business must exert more effort in considering the impact of change.
On behalf of the Southold Town Board, Councilman Ruland thanked all for attending
and advised that they would be kept advised of developments.
The meeting was adjourned at 2:38 PM.
Respectfully submitted,
Thomas F. Fox,
Southold Transportation Commission
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