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HomeMy WebLinkAboutTB-02/23/1993363 SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD FEBRUARY 23, 1993 WORK SESSION Present: Supervisor Scott L. Harris, Councilman George L. Penny IV (10:15 A.M.), Councilman Thomas H. Wickham, Councilman Joseph J. Lizewski, Councilwoman Alice J. Hussie. Absent: Justice Raymond W. Edwards, Town Attorney Harvey A. Arnoff (12:15 P.M.), Assistant Town Attorney Matthew G. Kiernan, Town Clerk Judith T. Terry. 9:45 A.M. - Edward D. Dart, Area Director for PEBSCO (Public Employees Benefit Services Corporation), a Deferred Compensation Plan Administrator, made a presentation to the Town Board regarding the establishment of a deferred compensation plan for the employees of the Town. (Also present during the .presentation: Senior Accounting John Cushman, and Robert Yaccarino, Labor Relations Consultant). Mr. Dart assured the Board that a plan could be established in the Town at no cost to the Town, and Mr. Cushman and Mr. Yaccarino agreed. He advised the Board that they must go to bid, pursuant to Section 457 of the Internal Revenue Code, and rebid every five years. EXECUTIVE SESSION 10:15 A.M. - On motion of Councilman Lizewski, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was Resolved that the Town Board enter into Executive Session possible contract negotiations with regard to a deferred compensation plan. Vote of the Board: Ayes: Supervisor Harris, Councilman Penny, Councilman Wickham, Councilman Lizewski, Councilwoman Hussie. Also present: Assistant Town Attorney Kiernan, Town Clerk Terry, Senior Accountant Cushman, Labor Relations Consultant Yaccarino.---While in Executive Session the Board discussed setting a date for the grievance hearings of Reeves, Wieczorek and McMahon, and set 1:00 P.M., Tuesday, March 16, 1993. 10:45 A.M. - The Board met with Landmark Preservation Commission members John Stack, Chairman, William Peters, Robert Bayley, Robert Kassner, to discuss a proposed Landmark Preservation Award program. The author of the program, Robert Bayley, explained to the Board that the purpose of the award would be to increase the awareness and interest in landmark preservation in the town by recognizing the Outstanding efforts of home owners/organizations who restore and maintain their structures, edifices, sites. Certificates would be awarded by the Supervisor at a public ceremony at Town Hall. The Commission will select one or more individuals or organizations for the Board's consideration to an aware to be presented during Preservation Week - May 9-15. The Town Board assured the Commission they wholeheartedly support the program. 10:55 A.M. - For Discussion Items: (1) Memorandum from Principal Building Inspector Lessard asking the Board whether the resolution, adopted in 1989, regarding no fees for the Walsh Park Affordable Housing Program is still in effect. - The Town Board agreed to reaffirm that 1989 resolution (see resolution no. 24). (2) Request .from Mary Ann Fleischman, Youth Board Chairperson, for a used filing cabinet that is available in storage, for Youth Board records. Board approved the request and the Town Clerk will make arrangements for Ms. Fleischman to acquire the cabinet. While in the subject, the Supervisor advised the Board he will be requesting a memoralizing resolution for the next meeting, asking the NYS Senate and NYS Assembly to enact legislation permitting the Town of Southotd to form a Youth Bureau with population just short of that required by State Law. 11:15 A.M. Insurance Consultant William F. Mullen, Jr. met with the Town Board to bring them up to date on their insurance program. Mr. Mullen explained that the cost for general liability, comprehensive, fire, misc. for 1991 was $355,000, 1992 - $270,00, and 1993 is $260,000, and he expects a further $2,000-$3,000 reduction. He advised that over the period from 5/1/89 to 12/31/91 the Town saved $489,000 in medical prem urns through self-insurance. In 1992 the savings was between $250,000 and $300,000, and stated the Town has been every fortunate in their relationship with Lawrence Healthcare Administrative Services. Mr. Mullen advised the Board he ~s concerned with the Recreation Department - there is no insurance, nor agreements, and this should be looked into a little closer. 11:25 A.M. Ralph Pu.qliese, member of the Agricultural Advisory Committee, met with the town Board to submit the Committee's recommendation that a member be appointed to the Planning Board that is an active farmer and landowner of farmland in the Town of Southold. 11:30 A.M. For Discussion Items (continued): (3) Set date to interview applicants for part-time Data Entry Operator position beginning at 4;00 P.M., March 16, 1993. (4) Memorandum from Principal Building Inspector Lessard concerning an employee in the Building Department - discussed during executed Session at 11:40 A.M. (5) Request from Principal Building Inspector Lessard for two building inspectors to attend a conference - discussed during Executive Session at 11:40 A.M. (6) Request from Police Chief Droskoski for two Bay Constables to attend a Marine Law Enforcement Training School was referred to the Personnel Committee. (7) Request from James McMahon, Administrator of the Affordable Housing Program, to place a display notice in the local newspapers soliciting applications for the Southold Town Affordable Housing Program. Mr. McMahon will be asked to submit information concerning the need for such a notice. (8) Board discussed the recent vacancy on the Stewardship Task Force caused by the resignation of John Nickles. There was also a vacancy last year caused by the resignation of J. Stanley Parkin. A letter will be sent to Richard Hilary, Chairman of the Task Force, asking for his recommendation based upon attendance of the current membership, and other factors he might consider pertinent. EXECUTIVE SESSION 11:40 A.M. - On motion of Councilman Lizewski, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was Resolved that the Town Board enter into Executive Session for discuss personnel. Vote of the Board: Ayes: Supervisor Harris, Councilman Penny, Councilman Wickham, Councilman Lizewski, Councilwoman Hussie. Also present: Assistant Town Attorney Kiernan, Town Clerk Terry. 12:35 P.M. - Recess for lunch. EXECUTIVE SESSION 2:10 P.M. - On motion of Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Councilman Lizewski, it was Resolved that the Town Board enter into Executive Session to discuss sale, lease, or exchange of Town property. Vote of the Board: Ayes: Supervisor Harris, Councilman Penny, Councilman Wickham, Councilman Lizewski, Councilwoman Hussie. Also present: Town Attorney Arnoff, Assistant Town Attorney Kiernan, Town Clerk Terry. 3:10 P.M. - The Board continued in Executive Session and met with Town Trustees John M. Bredemeyer, III, President, Albert J. Krupski, Jr., William G. Albertson, and their attorney Stephen R. Angel, to discuss Andros Patent litigation. 3:50 P.M. - The Town Board reviewed the resolutions to be voted upon at the 4:00 P.M. Regular Meeting. 4:00 P.M. - Work Session adjourned. REGULAR MEETING A Recjular Meeting of the Southold Town Board was held on Tuesday, February 23, 1993, at the Soutlnold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York. Supervisor Harris opened the meeting at 4:00 P.M., with the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag. Present: Absent: Supervisor Scott L. Harris Councilman George L. Penny IV Councilman Thomas H. Wickham Councilman Joseph J. Lizewski Councilwoman Alice J. Hussie Town Clerk Judith T. Terry Town Attorney Harvey A. Arnoff Justice Raymond W. Edwards (out-of-town) SUPERVISOR HARRIS: At this time before we go into our resolutions, are there any members of the audience, that would like to ask us any questions on those resolutions, that we'll be acting upon in the next few minutes? FRANK CARLIN: Good afternoon. My name is Frank Carlin, Laurel. I think I got one here, Scott. Four-wheel drive Jeep, what is that going to be used. for? SUPERVISOR HARRIS: It's for the Bay Constable. FRANK CARLIN: Did we just purchase another one about..? SUPERVISOR HARRIS: We held it. We never passed it. This is that same resolu- tion. FRANK CARLIN: Just one more, really, I guess it's none of my business, but can I ask why this person is resigning from the Stewardship? SUPERVISOR HARRIS: We don't know either. We just received the letter, that you have in front of you. We're going to accept that with, obviously, regrets. We need a motion to approve the audit of the bills from .February 23, 1993. Moved by Councilman Wickham, seconded by Councilman Penny, it was RESOLVED that the following audited bills be and hereby ordered paid: General Fund Whole Town bills in the amount of $440,744.76; General Fund Part Town. bills in the amount of $63,821.55; Nutrition Fund bills in the amount of $5,583.71; Adult Day Care bills in the amount of $100.00; SNAP Program bills in the amount of $936.93; EISEP Program bills in the amount of $339.80; Highway Fund Whole Town bills in the amount of $62,600.33; Highway Fund Part Town bills in the amount of $34,660.00; Capital Projects Account bills in the amount of $140,000.00; Gull Pond Bulkhead Repairs bills in the amount of $221.87; Hydrogeolic Landfill Study bills in the amount of $7,355.93; Open Space Capital Fund bills for the amount of $21,761.14; Computer Capital Account bills in the amount of $7.75; Waterfront Revitalization bills in the amount of $2,479,87; Generator Capital bills in the amount of $68.25; Employee Health Benefit Plan bills in the amount of $28,370.62; Fishers Island Ferry District bills in the amount of $95,611.59; West Creek Estates Road Improvement bills in the amount of $8,765.00; Southold Waste- water District bills in the amount of $18,805.50; Fishers Island Sewer District bills in the amount of $1,679.64; Southold Agency & Trust bills in the amount of $5,233.07; Fishers Island Ferry District Agency & Trust bills in the amount of $583.44. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny, Supervisor Harris. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR HARRIS: I need a motion to approve the minutes of February 2, 1993, Town Board meeting. Moved by Councilman Penny, seconded by Councilman Wickham, it was RESOLVED that the minutes of the February 2, 1993, regular Southold Town Board meeting be and hereby approved. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny, Supervisor Harris. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. 3 6 6 FEBRUARY 23, 1993 SUPERVISOR HARRIS: I need a motion to approve March 9, 1993, at 7:30 P.M., the next regularly scheduled Town Board meeting. Moved by Councilwoman Huss~e, seconded by Councilman Penny, it was RESOLVED that the next recjular meeting of the Southold Town Board will be held at 7:30 P.M., Tuesday, March 9, 1993, at the Southold Town Hall, Southold, New York. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny, Supervisor Harris. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. I. REPORTS. 1. Southold 2. Southold January, 1993. 3. Southold 4. Southold 5. Lawrence 6. Lawrence 7. East End 8. Southold 9. Southold 1993. Town Board of Trustees Monthly Report for January, 1993. Town Scavenger Waste Treatment Facility Monthly Report for Town Dog Shelter Monthly Reports for January, 1993. Town Justice Tedeschi Monthly Court Report for Janaury, 1993. Healthcare CSEA Monthly Benefit Report for January, 1993 Healthcare PBA Monthly Benefit Report for January, 1993. Recycling Association Report. Town Police Department Yearly Activity Report for 1992. Town Police Department Monthly Activity Report for January, 10. Southold Town's Developmentally Disabled Recreation Program Monthly Report for February, 1993. 11. Councilmen's Report. 12. Supervisor's Report. I1. PUBLIC NOTICES. 1. New York State Department of Environmental Conservation, Notice of Complete Application of Sebastians Cove to dredge navigational channel, retaining spoil material in a diked/weir system, and excavation to create a boat basin for eleven vessels. The project is located on Sebastian's Gutter, Mattituck Creek, Mill Road, Mattituck, New York. Written comments by March 4, 1993. 2. New York State Department of Environmental Conservation, Notice of Complete Application of Brick Cove Marina to dredge a shoal area inside the entrance to Sage Basin, partly within the marina premises, and partly in the off premises access channel. Project located at 1670 Sage Road, Southold, New York. Written comments by March 12, 1993. 3. U.S. Army Corps of Enc~ineers, New York District, application of Suffolk County Department of Public Works to maintenance dredge with beach nourishment at Richmond Creek, Little ?econic Bay, Southold, New ~;ork. Written comments by March 10, 1993. III. COMMUNICATIONS. 1. Betty Jessup thanking the Town Board for theirsupport of the Suffolk County Water Authority's project on Peconic Bay Boulevard. 2. Thomas Flader on behalf of the Cub Scouts of Den 9, Pack 39, thanking Supervisor Harris for the presentation to the boys. IV. PUBLIC HEARINGS. 1. 4:30 P.M., regarding the establishment of a Solid Waste Management District in the Town of Southold. V. RESOLUTIONS. SUPERVISOR HARRIS: The first resolution of the afternoon, an application by Frank McBride a renewal of his farmworker house trailer. 1.-Moved by Supervisor Harris, seconded by Councilman Penny, it was RESOLVED that the application of Frank J. McBride for renewal of his farm worker house trailer permit, for trailer located on the north side of Oregon Road, Cutchogue, which permit expired on February 9, 1993, be and hereby .is cjranted for a six (6) month period. 1.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny, Supervisor Harris. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. 23, 1993 3 6 7 2.-Moved by Councilman Penny, seconded by Councilman Wickham, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the followincj amendments to the Community Development 1993 Budcjet: CURRENT ~EW PROJECT BUDGET INCREASE DECREASE BUDGET Laurel Lake Improvement FY87 $12,337.17 -0- $12,337.17 -0- Rental Rehabilitation FY 88 $11,000.00 -0- $11,000.00 -0- Home Improvement FY 88 $ 3,591.40 -0- $ 3,591.40 -0- Hobart Road Drainage FY 89 $10,000.00 -0- $10,000.00 -0- Handicapped Ramp Fishers Island FY 90 $ 8,000.00 -0- $ 8,000.00 -0- Flint Street Improvements FY 90 $ 6,000.00 -0- $ 6,000.00 -0- Peconic Lane Park FY 93 -0- $50,928.57 -0- $50,928.57 AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the Town Board hereby authorizes and directs Supervisor Scott L. Harris to execute the Budget Modification Form and the 1993 Suffolk County Consortium Project Description Form for the Peconic Lane Park Project. 2.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny, Supervisor Harris. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. 3.-Moved by Councilman Wickham, seconded by Councilman Hussie, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs the Town Clerk to advertise for bids For two (2) Heavy Duty Ford Dump Trucks, or equal, for the Southold Town Highway Department. 3.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny, Supervisor Harris. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. 4.-Moved by Councilman Lizewski, seconded by Supervisor Harris, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs Supervisor Scott L. Harris to execute the SEQR Agency Compliance State- ment for the New York State Department of Transportation, Aviation Transportation, Infrastructure Renewal Project Grant Agreement [Capital), Project No. 9013.05, as follows: Install new medium intensity runway lighting system on Runways 12-30 and 7-25; install rotating beacon and wind cone; install VASI and REILS on Runways 7,-2~ 12 and 30; install electrical vault, at Elizabeth Field Airport, Fishers Island, New York; and be it FURTHER RESOLVED that Supervisor Harris be authorized and directed to execute the NeTM York State Department of Transportation, Aviation Transportation, Infra- structure Renewal Project Grant Agreements (Project No. 0913.05), for the following: Install new medium intensity runway lighting system on runways 12-30 and 7~25; install rotating beacon and wind cone; install VASI and REILS on Runways 7, 25, 12 and 30; install electrical vault, at Elizabeth Field Airport, Fishers -Island, New York, all in accordance with the approval of the Town Attorney. 4.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny, Supervisor Harris. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. COUNCILMAN WlCKHAM: I would just like to comment, that I've gotten some criticism from Fishers Island about some of these activities, and although I'm voting for it, I'd like to see the work be conducted in a way that they'll have some input into the way in which ,the project develops. I'd also like for the Board to get a better reading, as to exactly what all of this work on the airport is going to be in future. SUPERVISOR HARRIS: This has been going on for a number of years now, and this is a Town-owned airport, and by all means, when we get grants in millions of dollars, we have to make sure they proceed ahead, so we don't lose these monies. 3 6 8 1,93 5.-Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Supervisor Harris, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs Supervisor Scott L. Harris to execute the SEQR Agency Compliance Statement for the New York state Department of Transportation, Aviation Trans- portation, Infrastructure Renewal Project Grant Agreement (Study), Project No. 0913.06, as follows: Engineering Design for Runway 12-30 Overlay, at Elizabeth Field Airport, Fishers Island, New York; and be it FURTHER RESOLVED that Supervisor Harris be authorized and directed to execute the New York State Department of Transportation, Aviation Transportation, Infrastructure Renewal Grant Agreement (Study) (Project No. 0913.6), for Engineering Desing for Runway 12-30 Overlay, at Elizabeth Field Airport, Fishers' Island, New York, all 'n accordance with the approval of the Town Attorney. 5.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny, Supervisor Harris. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. 6.-Moved by Councilman Penny, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs Scott L. Harris to execute the SEQR Agency Compliance Statement for the New York State Department of Transportation, Aviation Transportation, Infra- structure Renewal Project Grant Agreement (Study), Project No. 0913.07, as follows: Engineering Design for Runway 7-25 Overlay, at Elizabeth Field Airport, Fishers Island, New York; and be it FURTHER RESOLVED that Supervisor Harris be authorized and directed to execute the New York State Department of Transportation, Aviation Transportation, Infra- structure Renewal Project Grant Agreement (Stud,/) (Project No. 0913.07), for Engineering Design for Runway 7-25 Overlay, at Elizabeth Field Airport, Fishers Island, New York, all in accordance with the approval of the Town Attorney. 6.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,' Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny, Supervisor Harris. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. 7.-Moved by Councilman Wickham, seconded by Supervisor Harris, it was RESOLVED that the application of Zdzislaw Mikolajczyk for renewal of his single family house trailer permit, for trailer located on the south side of private road (John's Road), which is on the south side of Main Road, Mattituck, he and hereby is c~ranted for a six (6) month period. 7.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny, Supervisor Harris. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. 8.-Moved by Councilman Lizewski, seconded by Supervisor Harris, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs Supervisor Scott L. Harris to execute an Application for Federal Assistance to the Federal Aviation Administration, under the Airport Improvement Program, for the Apron, Access Ta×iway & Access Road, Auto Parking (Design) Program, all in accordance with the recommendation of C&S Engineers, Inc., the Town's engineering consultants for the project. 8.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Councilman Penny, Supervisor Harris. Abstain: Councilman Wickham. This resoltuion was declared duly ADOPTED. 9.-Moved by Suoervisor Harris, seconded by Councilman Penny, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold _hereby authorizes Police Offider Edward Grathwohl to attend a one-day Armorers Course, sponsored by Glock, Inc., at Asbury Park, New Jersey, on February 8, 1993, and the actual expenses for meals, lodging, and transportation, using a Town vehicle, shall be a legal charge to the Police Department's 1993 Budget. 9.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny, Supervisor Harris. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. 10.-Moved by Councilman Wickham, seconded by Supervisor Harris, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the followinq 1992 Budget modification to the General Fund - Part Town to cover over- drawn appropriations: To: B1420.4 Town Attorney, Contractual Expenses $ 11,100.00 B3020.4 Public Safety Communications, Contractual Exp. 500.00 From: B9015.8 Police Retirement, Benefits $ 11,600.00 10.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny, Supervisor Harris. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. 11.-Moved by Councilman Lizewski, seconded by Supervisor Harris, it was RESOLVED that the TownBoard of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the following 1992 Budget modification to the Fishers Island Ferry District to appropriate FAA Grant: To: Revenues: SM4097 Capital Grant Federal Government $ 25,000.00 Appropriations: SM5610.4 Elizabeth Airport, Contractual Expenses $ 25,000.00 11.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny, Supervisor Harris. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR HARRIS: Number 12 is being held, a resolution approving the amount of $45,736.00 for a bond for roads and improvements in the major subdivision of Petrol Stations Ltd. at Cutchogue. · 13.-MoYed by Councilman Wickham, seconded bY Councilwoman Hussie, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby approves the amount of $90,000.00 as a revised bond amount for the roads and improvements in the major subdivision of Farmveu Associates at Mattituck, all in accordance with the recommendation of the Southotd Town Planning Board and Engineering Inspector Richter; said revised amount amends the Town Board's resolution of May 20, 1992 approving the amount of $488,530.00, whereas the developer chose to proceed with the improvements in lieu of posting a performance guarantee, and Engineer Inspector Richter reports that the $90,000.00 reflects the improvements that have not been completed as of this date; inspection fee based upon the original estimate has been filed with the Town. 13.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,- Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny, Supervisor Harris. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. 14.-Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Supervisor Harris, it was RESOLVED that the TownBoard of the Town of Southold hereby accepts, with rec~ret, the resignation of Johh J. Nickles, member of the Southold Town Steward- ship Task Force, effective immediately, and extends to Mr. Nickles their sincere · thanks and appreciation for the time and expertise he has devoted to the Task Force since his appointment on June 2, 1992. 14.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Flussie, Councilman Lizewski, Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny, Supervisor Harris. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. 15.-Moved by Councilman penny, seconded by Supervisor Harris, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby author'izes and directs Supervisor Scott L. Harris to execute partial payment request No. Four to the Federal Aviation Administration, for a $44,501.75 reimbursement with regard to the Fishers Island Elizabeth Field Airfield Lighting (Construction) project, all in accordance with the recommendation of the Town's engineers for the project, C&S Engineers, Inc.; and be it FURTHER RESOLVED that the Town Board authorizes and directs Supervisor Harris to execute partial payment request No. One to the New York State Department of Transportation, for a $34,077.63 reimbursement with regard to the same Elizabeth Field project, all in accordance with the recommendation of C&S Engineers, Inc. 15.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny, Supervisor Harris. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. 16.-Moved by Councilman Penny, seconded by Councilman Wickham, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and .d..irects Supervisor Scott L. Havr'is to execute an Agreement between the Town of Southold and the North Fork Housing Alliance, Inc. for the services of con- ducting counseling for 30 Iow income childred at the Clinton Memorial Day Care Center, all in accordance with the approved FY-18 (1992) Southold Town Community Dexelopment Block Grant Program. 16.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny, Supervisor Harris. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. 17.-Moved by Councilman Wickham, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of $outhold hereby rescinds their resolution no. 15, adopted on January 19, 1993, authorizing the purchase of a vehicle for the Bay Constable, whereas the time has expired for purchase from the New York State Bid Contract. 17.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny, Supervisor Harris. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. 18.-Moved by Councilman Lizewski, seconded by Councilman Wickham, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs the Town Clerk to advertise for bids for the purchase of a 1993 four wheel drive wagon for the Bay Constable, all in accordance with the bid specifications. 18.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny, Supervisor Harris. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. 19.-Moved by Councilman Penny, seconded by Supervisor Harris, WHEREAS, there has been presented to the Town Board of the Town of Southold a proposed focal Law entitled, "A Local Law in Relation to Affordable Housing"; now, therefore, be it RESOLVED that the Town Clerk be and she hereby is authorized and directed to transmit this proposed Local law to the Southold Town Planning Board and the Suffolk County Department of Plannincj in accordance with the Code of the Town of Southold and the Suffolk County Charter. Said proposed Local Law reads as follows, to wit: A Local Law in Relation to Affordable Housing BE IT ENACTED, by the Town Board of the Town of Southold as follows: I. Chapter 100 (Zoning) of the Code of the Town of Southold is hereby amended to read as follows: 1. Section 100-51 of the Code of the Town of Southold is hereby amended to read as follows: o MODERATE-INCOME FAMILY - A family whose aggregate annual income, including the total of all current annual income, including the total of all current annual income of all family members (excluding the earnings of working family members under age twenty-one (21)) from any source whatsoever at the time of application for the purchase or lease of an affordable housing unit or the purchase of an unimproved affordable lot, does not exceed ~hi~i~e' ~h~s~',J- cl~rFa~s- ~$397000=')7 fifty-three thousand one hundred ninety-nine dollars ($53,199.), which annual income shall be revised each year on-Jantn~-~ 3~r to conform to the previous year's change in the consumer price index. Section 100-56(E) is hereby amended to read as follows: E. Maximum sales price and monthly rent. (1) In an AHD District, the maximum initial sales price of a dwelling unit or unimproved lot reserved for sale to moderate-income families shall be as follows: (a) Unimproved lot containing an area of ten thousand (10,000) square feet: ~w~rt~-f~rve ct~Fat-s-($257000~ thirty-four thousand one hundred and three dollars ($3~,103.). FEBRUARY 23, 1993 3 7 1 (2) (bi Attached dwelling unit: si~t-~ thousand~ d~Fm-~- ($607000=~ eighty-one thousand eight hundred and forty-four dollars ($81,8q~,.) (c) Single-family detached dwelling unit: one hundred and two thousand three hundred and eight dollars ($102,308.) The maximum initial monthly rent, exclusive of utilities, for a dwelling unit reserved for moderate-income families in the AHD District shall be as follows: (a) Studio apartment: ~hvee htz~ do~ka~s-- ($300=) four hundred and seven dollars ($¢07.). (bi (c) (d) One-bedroom dwelling unit: cl~t~r-s--($~$8~ five hundred forty-four dollars Two-bedroom dwelling unit: Fi~ htJ-n~ dofl~es-($500=} six hundred eighty two ($682.). The provisions of the Section 100-56E(2) shall remain in effect as to each dwelling unit for a period of fifteen (15) years from the date of the initial lease thereof. II. This Local Law shall take effect upon its filing with the Secretary of State. * Underline represents addition(s) ** Underscore represent deletion(s) 19.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny, Supervisor Harris. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. 20.-Moved by Supervisor Harris, seconded by Councilman Penny, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants permission to Public Safety Dispatchers John Raynor and Claude Kumjian to attend a Public Safety Dispatcher Seminar, sponsored by the Nassau County Municipal Police Chiefs Association, Inc.., at Garden City Police Department, on March 12, 1993, from 8:30 A.M. to 4:30 P.M., and actual expenses for travel, using a police department vehicle, lunch, and $75.00 tuition per person shall be a legal charge to the Police Department's 1993 Budget. 20.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny, Supervisor Harris. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. 21 .-Moved by Councilman Penny, seconded by Councilman Wickham, WHEREAS, MV MUNNATAWKET, at approximately 6:10 P.M., Tuesday, February 16, 1993, c~rounded en route to Fishers Island during a period of heavy winds and rain squalls, causing damage to her underwater body; and WHEREAS, the vessel has been required by the U.S. Coast Guard to be drydocked for inspection and repairs as may be found necessary; and WHEREAS, the Board of Commissioners of the Fishers Island Ferry District deems it necessary to accomplish repairs on a timely basis to ensure that operating time with a single available vessel will be kept to a minimum; and WHEREAS, Thames Shipyard and Repair Co. of New London, Connecticut, is available to accomplish the necessary repairs; now, therefore, be it RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby concurs with the Board of Commissioners of the Fishers Island Ferry District that emerqency repairs to MUNNATAWKET are warranted and that the vessel be drydocked at the first available time at Thames Shipyard and Repair Co. 21.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, CounCilman Lizewski, Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny, Supervisor Harris. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. 3 7 2 FEBRUARY 23, 1993 22.-Moved by Councilman Wickham, seconded by Supervisor Harris, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby promotes Claire L. Glew to the position of Senior Assessment Assistant, from the Suffolk County Department of Civil Service Certification of Eligibles, effective February 23, 1993, at a salary of $27,044.88. 22.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny, Supervisor Harris. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. 23a.-Moved by Supervisor Harris, seconded by Councilman Wickham, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby promotes John A. Cushman II to the position of Senior Accountant, from the Suffolk County Department of Civil Service Certification of Eligibles, effective Februry 23, 1993, at a salary of $44,715.00. 23a.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny, Supervisor Harris. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. 23b.-SUPERVISOR HARRIS: I hereby remove John A. Cushman II from the position of Bookkeeper, effective February 23, 1993. 24.-Moved by Councilman Penny, seconded by Supervisor Harris, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby reaffirms their resolution No. 27(a), adopted on October 10, 1989, which reads as follows: "RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby exempts Walsh Park Benevolent Corporation, a not-for-profit corporation, from paying' Town permit fees for their Walsh Park Affordable Housing Project." 24.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny, Supervisor Harris. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. 25.-Moved by Supervisor Harris, seconded by Councilman Lizewski, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants per!mission to two (2) Building Inspectors to attend the Finger Lakes Building Officials Associa- tion Conference at Rochester, New York, from March 29 through April 1, 1993, and the registration fee of $225.00 per person, and necessary expenses for travel, meals and lodging shall be a legal charge against the Building Department's 1993 Budget. 25.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny, Supervisor Harris. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. 26.-Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Supervisor Harris, it was RESOLVED that the Twon Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes:the followinq 1992 Budget modification to the General Fund - Part Tnwn to cover overdrawn appropriations: To: B3130.4 Bay Constable, Contractual Expenses $ 500.00 From: B3130.2 Bay Constable, Equipment $ 500.00 26.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny, Supervisor Harris. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR HARRIS: At this time, are there any members of the audience, that would like to address this Board on any matter before our public hearing starts, which is in about three minutes from now. MARY MULCHAY JACKSON: Good afternoon. Mary Mulchay Jackson. Village of Greenport. I just have one question I'd like to address to the Board, and that is, is there going to be anything established to start inforcing the mandatory recycling laws, that are in place? SUPERVISOR HARRIS: Established, such as how, Mary? MARY MULCHAY JACKSON: In order to enforce them. FEBRUARY 23, 1993 373 SUPERVISOR HARRIS: The Board has been doing it's enforcement there with the great job, t. hat you've been doing at the landfill, and it seems to have been rewarded where the Town has not had to issue any summons yet for people, that actually have to come in. The warnings that have been issued, and the people being checked seem to be working, ['11 say as well as any other towns at this time, when it comes to recycling, and I hope that will continue. I hope we don't have to get to the point where we have to get a garbage policeman to follow them around to make sure that they're continuing to recyle on a daily basis. What I've seen of the town, this seems like the people have really grabbed whole of mandatory recycling, s~nce it was enacted, and it seems to me, that the recycling numbers, that have been generated, seems to be fairly constant. They have been on the increase as much as I'd like to see, but neither have they been in any other townships, that have enacted this. MARY MULCHAY JACKSON: That is true, and we've been working hard at the landfill, but there are a lot of people, that use carters, and a lot of those people are not recycling, and it appears to me from the work that we've been doing at the landfill, that if there was a presence out on the street to remind them, perhaps hand out some warnings, that we might see more compliance. SUPERVISOR HARRIS: Okay. We'll take that under advisement. Thank you. VASCO SIMIDOR: My name is Vasco Simidor from Greenport. I'd like to share some of my reactions with the Board of the first annual Town Youth Conference. First of all, I'm glad it took place. I found it very revealing. I am, however, very alarmed, and certainly concerned about the Suffolk County statistics cited at the conference. For example, Suffolk County ranks, this is a rank in New York State, number one in arrests of those under 20, number one in arrests of physically handicapped youth, number one in high school dropout rate, number one in underage drug arrests, number one in teenage abortions, number two in teenage suicides, number three in teen veneral disease, and lastly, number three in out-of-wedlock births in teens. I applaud the courage of high student Isaac Kaplan for his public commentary on the easy accessibility of drugs in our public schools. I can not help but question in my mind whether Isaac and his classmates also inform the administration of his particular school about the drug prevalence he states exists. If .he did, how was the situation acted upon by the school officials? I commend Southold Town Police Officer Vincent Terelli for his organization's financial pledge toward the possibility of a formation of a Youth Bureau. However, I'm concerned about what he does if the, quote, sixteen year old kids that can't stand up, they're so drunk, and driving. What is the procedural follow-up? Detective Beth Wilson cited the alarming increases in arrests, repeat arrests of children between the ages of seven and fifteen. Seven years old. This is mind boggling. This is a nightmare. We are arresting second graders, now. I hope I am correct in taking the position, that the Suffolk County statistics I quoted represented minority of our youngsters, and not the norm. I, also, take the position of the delinquent minority does not have the right to impede the educational, and social climate of the law abiding majority. Parents, not agents, have the maior responsibility for their children. ! recently had two young mothers walk past me with toddlers in strollers in a local parking lot. Every sentence out of their very audible conservation was imbelished with MF words. What kind of future do those children have? This kind of disgusting experience is increasing in our area. In closing, yes, I'm glad this Youth Forum took place. No, I do not think the Youth Bureau will be a panacea for the Suffolk County statistic citing. In my experience as a high school teacher, the Youth Program, whatever it is, may, repeat, may have a worthy attendents of young people, that are wholesome. I am in favor of examining, and pursuing such an enterprise. However, if we can't control drugs, and other abuses in our highly professionally staffed public schools, how can we be sure that the same negative minority will not set seeds to yet another environment such as a youth facility manned by a minu_s_c_ule adult staff. Thank you. SUPERVISOR HARRIS: Thank you, Mr. Simidor, for yourprofessional anaysis of that, being a former educator. At this time, I need a motion to recess to go into a public hearing. Moved by Councilman Penny, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie. it was RESOLVED that-a recess be called at this time, 4:30 P.M., for the purpose of holding a public hearing. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny, Supervisor Harris. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. Meeting reconvened at 4:50 P.M. SUPERVISOR HARRIS: Does the Town Board wish to act on the resolution creating the Southold Solid Waste Management District? 27.-Moved by Councilman Penny, seconded by Supervisor Harris, WHEREAS, a map, plan and report are part of the proposed Southold Solid Waste Management District have been duly filed in the Town Clerk's Office; and, WHEREAS, a resolution was duly adopted by the Town Board of the Town of Southold on February 2, 1993, said resolution setting forth all matters required by law to be stated regarding said proposed District and said resolution specifying that a public hearing would be held by the Town Board at Town Hall, 53095 Main Road, Southold, New York on February 23, 1993 at Lb30 P.M., to consider the proposed estabishment of said district, and to hear comments of all persons interested in the same; and, WHEREAS, a notice of said public hearing was duly published and posted as required by law; and, WHEREAS, a hearing on the proposed establishment of the District was duly held by said Town Board on February 23, 1993, at Town Hall, 53095 Main Road, Southold, New York, and full discussion of the matter having been had, and all persons desiring to be heard, having been heard; and, WHEREAS, full environmental review of the formation of the proposed district, pursuant to the State Environmental Quality Review Act, has been conducted and is on file in the Town Clerk's office; and, WHEREAS, said environmental review concluded that there is no perceived adverse economic or env'ronmental impact that would result from the formation and subsequent operation of the proposed District; now, therefore, be it RESOLVED AND DETERMINED 1. That the Notice of hearing was published and posted as required by law, and is otherwise sufficient. 2. That all property and property owners within the proposed Southold Solid Waste Management District are benefitted thereby. 3. That all property and property owners benefitted are inc uded within the limits of the proposed Southotd Solid Waste Management District. ¢. That establishment of the Southold Solid Waste Management District is in the public interest; and, be it FUR'THER RESOLVED AND DETERMINED, that this Board in all respects approves the establishment of the Southold Solid Waste Management District in the Town of Southold, Suffolk County, New York, to embrace the territory described in and containing the following boundaries, to wit: ALL that land lying easterly of the division line between Town of Riverhead and Town of Southold, said line being more particularly described as follows: BEGINNING at a point on the northerly shore line of Great Peconic Bay at the southerly terminus of the center-line of Laurel Lane, and running thence northerly along said center-line of Laurel Lane about 5700 feet to Main Road; thence, northerly across Main Road and along the westerly line of lands of DeSalle, Harves and Kujawski about 8500 feet to Sound Avenue; thence northerly across Sound Avenue and along the westerly line of land of Long Island Lighting Company about 4500 feet to Long Island Sound, exceot al the land of Fishers Island, said and bear'ng Suffolk County Tax Mao numbers: District 1000, all of Section 1-12 inclusive, all of Section 130, Section 555-4-1, 555-4-2, 555-4-3. 666-~,-1 and 666-4-2 AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that this resolution is subject to a permissive referendum as provided in Article Seven of the Town Law and Section 209 of the Town Law and that the Town Clerk is directed to post and publish in the March 4, 1993 edition of the Trave er-Watchman the attached notice of same; and, be it FURTHER RESOLVED that the Town Clerk be directed to send a copy of this resolution to the Town Assessor's Office, the Town Accountant, and the Town Attorney. 27.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny, Supervisor Harris. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. COUNCILMAN PENNY: I only wish that Judge Edwards was here to vote for this, because he's been looking for this for at least five, or six, years, that I know of. He's been lobbying very hard on behalf of the Fishers Island residents, and we finally came up with an answer of how to keep them from a double taxation situation. TOWN CLERK TERRY: We had to do it now, in order to get on the tax roll. SUPERVISOR HARRIS: Are there any members of the audience at this time, would tike to address this Board on any other matter? Yes, Mr. Siegmann? ED SIEGMANN: Ed Siegmann. Mattituck. I want to read something out of the January 5 minutes from the meeting. I was speaking, and I said the following, Scott, there was comment, that Mr. Wickham made and what that was about is the public losing faith in the format, that we have out here, and I think if you look around at this room, you can see two reporters, and you see two other people, that are attending, or .one other reporter, and you see four other people here. There's radically something wrong when I turn to look at Channel 25, and I see Town Board meetings from Riverhead, and from Southampton, and see many- more people attending these meetings. There's a whole paragraph there, but I don't want to take your time to go into the' whole paragraph. Your answer to me at that time, Scott, was, Ed, unfortunately I'm going to have to, again, this is politics that you're entering into by the statements you're makinc~r Now, I want to go to the minutes of February the 2nd. I turned on my television set one night, and this is the comments I heard on the television being made by Councilman Penny. I'd just like to thank, once again, Barbara Kelling for writing a constructive letter in regard to the Suffolk County Water Authority coming in. Most often those that approach us either try to make politics, or accuse us of something subversive, or attacl< us for one thing or another. Here was a lady, that had some legitimate concerns, and she's not a member, that I know, of any other organization. She's not paid to repres'ent, and make representations, but she's really a concerned citizen, that came for:th and offered a concrete solution to the Town of Southold, that had to deal with this issue. I want to thank her, because quite honestly, it's not that often that we really get the sincerity of this type. Most people come in, and they accuse us of doing something for one subversive purpose or another, and we sit here wondering, well, is there anybody out there that is real? I would go on with the rest of this paragraph. It's quite lengthy, but the rest of the paragraph is strictly a political speech in 'reference to bumper stickers, that were given out. I waited for you, after I heard that, I waited for you to say, I have to stop this discussion due to the fact, that it's political. But, I didn't hear you say that, so I could only come to the conclusion that there, is double standard here. That if somebody from the audience says somethin_g, they're told that it's political, but if one of our elected officers, who represent us, and who work for us, can make political speeches, I think they should be curtailed, same as you would curtail somebody from the floor. But, I just wanted to go into a little deeper, those first remarks that I read. I believe George owes an apology to the people who he was referring to, when he said people come in here, that represent organizations, and do it in the light of subversive things, that they say, and that, and, also, to ask the question, are 3 7 6 FEBRUARY 23, 1993 these people out there real? I think this is about as Iow as you can get, at a time ike this, when people come in to try to say what's on their mind, and to listen to something like this on television, I sure as hell believe that George owes the people apologies, that he was referring to. Thank you. SUPERVISOR HARRIS: Thank you, Ed. Is there anybody else, that would like to speak at this time? Yes? FRANK CARLIN: Frank Cariin. Laurel. Last week the highest court in the state ruled again about closing the landfill. Now, you know as well as 1 do, that you'll lose. No matter how you look at it, you're going to lose. The DEC is going to win. The problem is, if a State Trooper was to go down there now, and put a padlock on the gate, do you really have an efficient plan? Well, if you do, I hope you have one that's better than what you have down there now, as far as the recycling goes, because it's pathetic, and I'll tell you why. Double cars come in, and park. There's heavy equipment running around between the cars, payloaders. It's a wonder somebody hasn't gotten injured until now. Maybe they have. I don't know. I was down there last week, wood all over the place, mud. That's a system. The trouble with you people is, you bounce the ball around, when you got to get the I~all in"the basket. That's what counts. That's your score. You're fighting this thing now for two years. The principal is the same thing as Charlie-Zara. You're wasting the taxpayers' money on lawyer fees. You know you're going to lose. Everytime you have a problem, go to court. You can't. You got to take the bull by the horns. Resolve it. This is a very high priority subject, this garbage. As you wait it's going to cost more, if you have to; trans- port this out of the town. Let's face it. You're got to take the bull by the horns. Put the ball in the basket. That's what counts. You had ten years. You factually had ten years, or twelve years now, to resolve this problem. At least Riverhead has some kind of a system going. It'~ not the greatest, but it's somethingI. It's pathetic. This is pathetic. I'm not afraid to tell you, and I'm ashamed to tell you. Is that the best you're going to do? I'm going to ask you, if the padlock goes on, do you have a system? I mean a system that works, not the one you said two years, we have a system, which I never seen. ['11 be honest with you, .I think if we ever went to Frank Murphy's system with the composting plant in '89, we would have had something, but we have nothing now. You see, I say what's on my mind, and I get a lot of comments from the people from town. They come to me, and say, I seen you on television, Frank. We like what you say. I wish I could do that. Anybody can do that in here. Just get up here. The microphone isn't going to bite you. Say what you want to say, as long as it's true, and you can prove it. I"m going to tell you something, then l'm going to close. My wife has my supper ready, and I don't want to get her on my back. I could tell you something, but I'm not going to expose what it is. Maybe I shouldn't be doing this, but I had an experience down at the landfill at the scales in August. Something, I believe, that would make the Suffolk Times allegations on the weighing on the scales sick. Well, I'm not going to exoose it. I'll give you a preview on that one. All this would make their allegations,about the scale, look sick, and can prove it, because I had a witness. I don't want to stir the pot. What I would suggest, you take a lot closer look at that scale. Now~ if you would, Scott, I'd like to deal with you, Scott. I don't like deals with politicians very often. If you want to, I'll speak to you in private about it. As a man, I'll speak to you in private, because it's serious, pretty serious. If certain people ever got a hold of this, forget it. Thank you. SUPERVISOR HARRIS: Anybody else like to speak at this time, before we close? FRANK CARLIN: You taking my offer up about that? SUPERVISOR HARRIS: I'I1 talk to you.at any time. My office is always open Frank. FRANK CARLIN: Right after the meeting. I don't have to come back. JOE RISTUCCIA: Joe Ristuccia. I didn't get chance before to comment regarding the subject that Vasco brought up. I'r~ concerned about that article, that appeared in Suffolk' Times about the youth in the community. Certainly, I endorse everything about Vasco said, that we've got to do something about our youth. On the other hand, I'm just asking you to consider that this has to be done effectively. I think that's the word. I think I saw a figu~'e in the ..of course, you can't go by what's the newspaper all the time, because these are coming up. There was a figure like a 550,000.00 number, where you would get somebody, and you'd put another person on the payroll, and you know, most of the money would go for the payroll. Before we do that, I fault some of the things, that we do here. I'm not faulting this [3oard really. Who l'm faulting are the schools, and some of the others I think, are people in the community. We have a problem with youth I think first and foremost we've got to do something with the parents. Why are the parents allowing some of our youth to go wild? Not withstanding the fact that I realize we have single parenthood, of course, and the problems that are attended with that. What I'm suggesting is, that we spend $37,000,000.00, or $38,000,000.00 a year in our school system, and as a result that is the most un-utilized piece of real estate that we have in the community. The schools are opened from eight in the morning to 2:30 in the afternoon, and before we start considering how we want to utilize those facilities, and things like that, I know we also have a bond issued, that's going to be used for the Senior Citizen's Center, or the Human Resource Center, we certainly can use that. We can use schools. After all, our youth are from one end of our town to the other, which is quite a distance in terms of miles, and I think we could utilize some of our un-untilized real estate. Secondly, I think instead of, you know, if I were putting people on the payroll, maybe using some of the man power, that we have in the town, and our schools. I think before we jump in, and start spending a lot of money, because if you were to spend two, three million dollars on the problem of alcoholism, and drugs in the community, I don't think you're going to do a damn thing. The Federal government for many, many years have been trying to solve this problem, and we still have the problem. By us now getting involved, and all of the sudden rushing out, and spending money, what we're going to be doing is spending money, that's all. I think you'll solve the problem. I think we can solve this problem, and mitigate it, or maybe looking up how we can really help the kids, and getting the parents more involved. Thank y(~u. SUPERVISOR HARRIS: We feel the same way, Joe, about the youth in this community, obviously, and that's why we've undertaken the direction we did a number of years ago, to address the youth, and the problems that they have, in the needs assessment that has come out of there. I think now, that we have all the facts, and figures, and we obviously had a very good conference, and a lot of input, the Board knows the direction that has to taken, and now we have to implement what we haYe to do for the future of this township. Just commenting two things, before we close. First, Frank, on what you said in reference to the scales. As you know Weights and Measure did come down, and they did certify the scales. They were accurate, and there was no problem with them, but, again, that's not to say there can't be ice, or anything like this that could build UP underneath the scales, and so on. But, what I'm working on right now, which I'm goingtobepresenting to the Board,probably at the next meeting, is a resolution where the residents of the town, the first hundred pounds will be free, when you go into the landfill through the scales, just to take up any problem, that could arise from the weather, or anything else, that is not at our concern, that we don't know about, that is unforeseen. I think this will curtail any problem in that. I'm working on that resolution right now. I'm going to be presenting that to the Board at the next meeting. Secondly, in reference to padlocking the landfill, I don't know where that came from. I think Commissioner Jorhling one time, from the DEC, made a statement about that he would send the State Police down to do something with landfills all on Long Island. But, thal~ can't happen. The only ;thing, that happens with landfills, Frank, is that the actual MSW, that is being covered everyday with six inches of fill, that curtails. Everything else stays exactly as it is. The gates never get padlocked, except at night at five o'clock, when we close it. So, just to eleviate what you fear could possibly happen. That's not even in the possible reality, that something like that could happen at any town, especially to Southold. But, thank you for the concern on that. We are working very hard on that, and have been. We'll certainly hope within the next few months we're going to have some real concrete movement in reference to that issue. Apparently, we have saved millions of dollarsof tax- payer's money with this litigation. I think it's over ten, or twelve million dollars total, between the three towns right now, that has been saved, and the $60,000.00, or $70,000.00, that this town has spent in litigation for that is, certainly, probably some of the best spent money, that this town ever put forth, as far as the taxpayers. Thank you for your concern. FRANK CARLIN: One more thing, Scott, being as you brought the subject up, this is not what I'm going to be talking to you about. This is divided. About the landfill, I spoke to Ray Jacobs about, you know, I have raspberries. I grow raspberries, and I prune raspberries, and I carry them to the landfill. SUPERVISOR HARRIS: I purchased some of your raspberries, Frank. They're very good. FRANK CARLIN: They look pretty good. There's a lot of Vitamin C in there. He said to me, you know Frank, it's agriculture. This comes under agriculture. You shouldn't be paying for that in going to the dump, because it's agricult~Jre. So, he says, from now on ['11 notify the man at the gate there to exempt you, because you're agriculture. I said, make sure he knows about this. So, I go down with a load of raspberries clippings, and I said, I'm exempt from this. He says, I don't know anything about that. I said it's orders from Ray Jacobs. He says, that's your problem. I care Jess. Then he gives me a hard time, and don't give me a hard time. This is the wrong guy to give a hard time to. You know? So, I said, I'll get back. Okay, sign this piece of paper, put your phone number there. I drove in, and I said, I'll take care of this when I come back out. So, I get ahold of the supervisor of the landfill, and Ray Jacobs. I say, what's going on. I thought you told this guy that I was exempt. He says, well, he should have known, he will from now on. But, here's what I'n~ driving at. I've been doing this now for almost six years. I've been paying, so actually the Town owes me money. They've been charging me all these years for taking raspberries in, and I should have been paying for it. But, that's all I'm going to speak to you about. SUPERVISOR HARRIS: Thank you, Frank. Is there anybody else that wants to comment? Councilman Penny? COUNCILMAN PENNY: I would just like to comment that I've read, and reread, again, what Mr. Siegmann read here before, and what I said here is, here was a lady that had some legitimate concerns, and she is not a member, that I know of any organization. That was not meant to be in a derogatory manner toward her being a member, or not being a member of an organization, but we have been barraged most recently with organizations with political agendas, and I'm sorry that there was some confusion here, and if there's anybody that confused us, I would sincerely apoligize, Ed, to them, because I did not make any derogatory remarks about anybody representing, any organization. I tried to, very clearly, separate the facts that I was saying, and I think my statement on the record here, and I have a copy here, if anybody wants to see it again, would support that. On a little more humorous note, I had approached the-Suffolk Times after I found out, that this article, that was being written on the landfill, and then when I found out there could be a twenty pounds spread between scales, because they're truck scales, I said to the Suffolk Times reporter, who was working on the article, I said, for instance, the discrepancy was different between the incoming scale, and the outgoing scale, not just the .opposite. Actually, you could have driven in with an empty truck, and collected $1.20 from the landfill on your way out, after having le~t i~othing off~' So,. you know, everything goes in both directions. I mean, a little bit of ice, a little bit of snow, should not create any chaos, when you're dealing in twenty pounds discrepancies on a truck scale, that weights thousands of pounds, and even tons. So, actually people that find out that. there could have been a run of $1.20 at the landfill from people just driving in, and out, all day. Thank you. SUPERVISOR HARRIS: I'd like to end the meeting, so we don't continue this. ED SIEGMANN: George apologized. I'd just to say, I thank him for apologizing, and when it came across on television, .it sure sounded like other people were involved beside us, but I don't want to get into any debate about what was, and what wasn't. SUPERVISOR HARRIS: Thank you. Is there anybody else? TODD SCHELIN: My name is Todd Schelin. I'm here representing North Fork Sanitation. It's my father's business. I just wanted to address you on the latest proposal of the first 100 pounds free, as a way of compensating if the scales are off.' An idea on the top of my head is it might create an unfair advantage to people, that are bringing in small amounts, as compared to a company like ours, where we're bringing in large quanities. I did a little bit of quick math off the top of my head. Someone bringing in a thousand pounds worth of chargeable debris, the first one hundred pounds free would reflect a 10% savings. From our situation a more likely amount,that we might bring in, might be closer to the twenty thousand pound load. That same 100 pounds, that you would give us for free, would only reflect one half of a percent. I'm just concerned that it might create an unfair advantage, and that the Town might consider instead of a 100 pound interval, it would consider possibly a percentage. SUPERVISOR HARRIS: Todd, this is something that I've even presented to the Board. I've been working on this, trying to get the economics involved, and what this means to the budget, and so on. But, this would be strictly for cars, and trucks. This would be for residents, basically for residents, because one of the problems is truck scales are truck scales. They weight trucks, but the truck scales are just that, and the cars that go across there, if there is a problem, because these don't weigh like a person going on them at 120 pounds it can weight, if you stood on these scales, to be that accurate, you may weigh 130. These kind of things are what we're addressing right now. How it will impact the commercial sector, which is yourselves, it was real y right now we're working on right now is just what the residential aspect is. We haven't even looked at the commercial sector yet. TODD SCHELIN: I'm really just looking to make things fair, you know, across the board, if'it r~presents a savings for people to bring, you know, to get a discount, if they bring it themselves, I think it would be fair that we would get a discount also. From a business standpoint, you know, I think it would be unfair. SUPERVI.SOR HARRIS: Thank you, Todd. FRANK CARLIN: Just one thing, about the snow, and the sand, ~)n the scales, don't get thrown by that. You also have a computer in there. I never heard nothing about the computer. That could be off, too. SUPERVISOR HARRIS: All I Can tell you is, the scales were certified. That's all I can tell you, by Weights and Measures. FRANK. CARLIN: I'll tell you more later. SUPERVISOR HARRIS: I don't know what procedures they use for computers, or not computers, as far as their w'eights go, but we'll move into that later. COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: I would just' like to comment very briefly, that it's difficult to be fully prepared for a Town Board meeting when the agenda for the meeting isn't out on the Friday before the day. Yesterday we came at the close of business on Monday, and still the agenda wasn't ready. So, just a suggestion, Scott, that it would help the Board to be well prepared for these meetings, if the agendas could be out, as they always were in the past, on the Friday before a Tuesday. SUPERVISOR HARRIS: The agendas were always out on Mondays, Tom, and for information, the agendas are strictly for the people. They're not for Town Board meml3ers, because you have that information in your mailboxes at least two weeks in advance, everything that gets put on the agenda. So, because you look on the agenda, and there are times that things get put on the same da~,, .that come .in on Monday. COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: We don't get them two weeks ahead of time. SUPERVISOR HARRIS: Absolutely. The mail sitsin the box sometimes two weeks in advance, before an agenda is ever produced. So, just to answer that, we are working on that. Yesterday, as a matter of fact, there was a problem with the computer ~t four o'clock, when the agendas normally come out, and it took a little longer to get that back on again, but that certainly had nothing to do with the mail that sits in all the Councilmen's boxes, because it's alwa,/s in there well in advance. All this is, is sort' of a digest of what you have available to you already. Again, thank you for that, Tom. At this time, I need a motion to recess. Moved by Councilwomen Hussie, seconded by Councilman Lizewski, it was RESOLVED thatthe Town Board meeting be and hereby is adjourned at 5:15 P.M. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Councilman Wickham, Councilman Penny, Supervisor Harris. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. Judith T. Terry Southold Town Clerk