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Southold Transportation Commission
Southold Town Hall
June 18, 2018 Meeting
Called to Order: 10:00 AM by Chairman Neb Brashich.
Members Present
Councilman William Ruland, Town Engineer Jamie Richter, Planning Director Heather Lanza,
Jim Baker, Jim Kalin, Greenport Trustee Mary Bess Phillips, Police Chief Martin Flatley,
Highway Superintendent Orlando, Nick Mazzaferro, Frank Field and Tom Fox.
Approval of May 23, 2018 Meeting Minutes
Under Old Business—Traffic Issues—Village of Greenport, a correction was noted by Trustee
Phillips that the SPD had found that the average vehicle speed in Greenport was less than 30
MPH. A motion to accept the corrected minutes was then made, was seconded and was
carried.
East End Transportation Council - Update
There was no EETC meeting.
Traffic Summit Follow-up— Business Meeting—June 27, 1 pm —Town Community Center
Representatives of local Chambers of Commerce and Business Improvement Districts have
been invited to attend. In anticipation of the meeting, several relevant issues were discussed.
Trustee Phillips noted that there had been an increase in ferry traffic bound for the U.S. Open in
Southampton. (See comment below).
Councilman Ruland observed that Harbes has engaged a traffic engineer/consultant and also
suggested that incentives for visitors such as variable daily pricing may be issues for
consideration. He also noted that local retail merchants have reported that visitor traffic volume
had decreased, except for the Mattituck Strawberry Festival on the weekend of June 16-17.
Chief Flatley reported that the Lavender Farm had announced that blooms have started. He
also noted that the Mattituck Strawberry Festival seemed not to have been as busy as usual
and that the parking field had not been filled to capacity.
Town Supervisor, Board and Trustee Requests
Old Sound Avenue Stop Sign —Mattituck- Update
The Town Board will hold a public hearing tomorrow, at which that issue will be discussed.
Councilman Ruland suggested that a "Stop Sign Ahead" should be placed as appropriate along
the roadway, with a "Three-Way Stop Sign" at the intersection with Westphalia Avenue.
Pike Street Parkinq Lot Rules of Operation—Mattituck
Neb observed that restriping of the lot had effectively increased the number of parking spaces.
Councilman Ruland suggested that the new striping arrangement should remain in place at
least until the end of 2018, with future consideration for spaces of 1 hour, all day and overnight
parking. When restriping is necessary, the Riverhead model of variable colored striping for the
different durations may be workable, thereby obviating the need for otherwise appropriate
signage. However, effective enforcement of any 30 minute spaces might be difficult. He also
suggested that appropriate signage should mandate"head-in" parking only. The issue of
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delivery trucks and parking issues should be on the agenda for the June 27 business meeting.
Trustee Phillips noted that VGPT parking lots generally provide for 30 minute and 1 hour spaces
from 8:OOAM to 5:OOPM.
Annual Fishers Island Town Board Meeting —August 8
Heather Lanza noted that the agenda for the meeting would include public input on the
Transportation & Infrastructure Chapter of Town Comprehensive Plan with respect to ferries,
emergency access and bike trails. Commissioners may attend.
NYSDOT Traffic Safety Concerns- Mattituck and Greenport
NYSDOT's letter of May 18, 2018 responded to the May 2, 2018 letter from a former Trustee of
the Village of Greenport concerning the adequacy of truck routing signage and bicycle safety on
State Road 25 and County Road 48. NYSDOT reviewed the issues raised and found the
existing signage to be adequate. However, the agency also voiced no objection to the
placement of future signage placed by the Town of Southold and/or the Village of Greenport
with respect to directing truck traffic from local roads to CR48.
Planning Board Requests
Transportation & Infrastructure Chapter of Town Comprehensive Plan —Ongoing Preparation by
Contractor- Update
Heather Lanza reported that a draft of the plan should be ready by the July 2018 meeting.
Current Transportation Issues -Updates
Southold Bus Shelters- Update
Jim Kalin advised that SCDPW has contracted for the placement of one or two bus shelters per
year, starting in 2019.
Dunn Report Love Lane & SR25- Mattituck
Jamie Richter reported that there has been no response from Dunn Associates concerning the
Town's inquiry about the inadequacies of its report.
Peconic Water Taxi Proposal
Tom Fox advised that there was nothing new to report. However, while potential operators may
be interested, the issue of adequate parking of riders' vehicles at loading and discharging
locations would be a major problem to be dealt with initially.
Old Business
Request for Traffic Signal at the Intersection of CR48 and SR25—Greenport
On June 10, 2018, a concerned local resident renewed her request of June 2017 for the
placement of a traffic signal at that intersection. Jamie Richter will prepare an update for that
person concerning the status of a traffic study at that location.
Traffic Issues—Village of Greenport
Trustee Phillips noted that North Ferry traffic bound for the U.S. Open in Southampton had been
backed up to the 711 on SR25.
She also observed that North Ferry access should have better markings and needs better traffic
control to and from its boats.
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CR48 Repaving - Update
Adjustments to and the restriping of the new roadway from Hortons Lane to Greenport should
be completed within the next two weeks.
New Business
The Orient Association's letter of May 17, 2018 to the Supervisor sought the Town's assistance
in dealing with NYSDOT concerning speed limits, congestion and safety. Chief Flatley reported
that he had met with that group before the issuance of its letter and had also received its
mapping of the areas concerned. He suggested that NYSDOT should survey the situation. He
will also provide copies of that document at the next meeting.
S92 Smartphone"App"
In response to Trustee Phillips' inquiry, Jim Kalin advised that the "Rider" app is online and is
seeing increased usage.
Next Meeting
The next meeting is scheduled for July 23, 2018 at 10:00 AM in the conference room at Town
Hall.
Adlournment
The meeting was adjourned at 11:39 AM.
cc: Town Clerk
Town Government Liaison Officer
Respectfully submitted,
Thomas F. Fox
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From: "Noncarrow, Denis" <denisn@southoldtownny.gov>
To: "William Ruland" <rulandfarm@yahoo.com>, nrbi@optonline.net
Date: 07/20/2018 10:17:20 AM
Subject: FW: July 23rd Meeting With The Transportation Group (Southold Town)
FYI
Denis,
A few comments may help clarify our approach before we talk again.
First: The July 23rd meeting will be attended by Professor Gerrit Wolf and
Burke Liburt. Gerrit Wolf brings to the equation years of success in the held of management, both as a
teacher, as Dean of the Harriman School of Management. His extensive profile is on Linkedln. Gerrit
founded both the Innovation and the Innovation Consultancy. The Consultancy brings together the
resources of the University to focus on specific challenges of business, municipalities and social systems. I
have been privileged to work with Gerrit for a number of years to facilitate a number of these projects.
Second: The Innovation Consultancy approach is client centered. We meet with you learn the
architecture of your problem/challenge; we may ask a few questions; we may meet with you more than
once preliminarily.
Third: We meet (internally) with senior faculty resources to determine whether an informed assessment,
and, if appropriate, solutions, can be
created for you.
Fourth: We will return to you with a proposal only-- after rigorous due diligence--we conclude that we can
help you. Attendant costs for faculty costs administration will be presented at that time as well.
The decision as to whether to work with us after the first meeting (on July 23rd) might be premature. You
need to evaluate whether the resources we present will be of value. It may be that The Town Board needs
to know that you are considering The innovation Consultancy to work through the challenges of both traffic
and growth before we provide an assessment for you.
There is no charge for any of the work we do before a plan is accepted.
I hope this provides some clarification for and I look forward to talking with you in the next couple of days.
Best,
Burke
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The Innovation Consultancy
The College of Business, Stony Brook University
314A Harriman Hall
Stony Brook, NY 11794-3775
631-379-1627 (Mobile)
www.managementcenterli.com.com
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From: "Noncarrow, Denis" <denisn@southoldtownny.gov>
To: nrbi@optonline.net
Date: 07/02/2018 03:04:56 PM
Subject: FW: Two Pronged Program
From: Burke Liburt [ma iIto:burke.liburt@stonybrook.edu]
Sent: Monday,July 02,201812:28 PM
To: Noncarrow, Denis<denisn@southoldtownny.gov>
Subject:Two Pronged Program
Denis,
We would be delighted to work with you:
We (would) sit-in on a work session--probably 3 key people--and listen. We will, of course ask questions:
The focus must be two-pronged:
a. A timely analysis, with an attendant execution, to remediate traffic congestion and flow
b. An assessment and program to encourage business growth with low impact on environment (including
traffic generation); to expand Southold beyond an agri-tourism and recreational center to one with low
impact on traffic, yet providing growth opportunities-e.g., high tech, software development.
We wil respond with in two weeks with a proposal for your consideration.
This is a no-nonsense proposal from one of the top Research Centers in the Country--We hope you will
take advantage of our resources!
Best,
Burke
Burke Liburt, Associate Director
The Innovation Consultancy
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314A Harriman Hall
Stony Brook, NY 11794-3775
631-379-1627 (Mobile)
www.managementcenterli.com.com
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June 19, 2018
Mr.Neboysha Brashich, Chairman
Town of Southold Transportation Commission
P.O. Box 1179
Southold,NY 11971-0959
RE: Mattituck Park District—Request for Roadside Signs
Dear Mr. Brashich and Members of the Commission:
We respectfully ask that you consider our request for roadside signs stating"No Parking
Any Time"along Peconic Bay Boulevard fronting our Peconic Bay Beach property formerly
known as Mattituck Yacht Club. We recently invested significant funds to beautify this property
and have installed several plantings there. We have found that people are parking their cars on
the grass area of our property and we are concerned about the lawn and our recent plantings.
Please note that our Veterans Park location on Peconic Bay Boulevard also has the"No Parking"
signs posted outside the Park.
We appreciate your consideration of our request. If you have any questions or require
any further information,please do not hesitate to contact me.
Very truly yours,
Doris McGreevy
Chairperson
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From: "Tomaszewski, Michelle" <michellet@town.southold.ny.us>
To: "'NEBOYSHA BRASHICH"' <nrb1@optonline.net>
®ate: 07/16/2018 01:43:19 PM
Subject: Phone Message
Hi Neb,
Mr. Gabe Scibelli called regarding a letter you had sent to him in October. It was the commission's response to
his request for a stop sign at the southeast corner of Main Bayview Road and Cedar Beach Road in Southold.
He wanted to discuss it with you directly and ask if it was possible to come to a Transportation meeting to be
on the agenda to discuss and appeal?His number is 631-708-2108, or if you prefer for me to give him an
answer to this just let me know.
Thank you,
c>Wichelle
Michelle L. Tomaszewski
Secretarial Assistant
Southold Town Supervisor's Office
Phone: 631-765-1889 Fax: 631-765-1823
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Southold,NY 11971-0959
Phone(631)765-1889
Fax(631)765-1823
June 20, 2018
Ms. Kathryn Casey Quigley
518 First Street
Greenport, NY 11944
Dear Ms. Quigley:
During the monthly Transportation Commission meeting on June 13th,
your request for a circle or traffic light in Greenport forwarded to
Deputy Supervisor William Ruland was discussed. This letter
summarizes the discussion.
At my request, Office of the Town Engineer and Commissioner James
Richter prepared a synopsis of past Town efforts and current thinking
for this location as follows:
• The intersection of State Route 25, County Route 48 and Sound
Road in Greenport is currently controlled by a single red and yellow
blinking light system. This intersection has been discussed at the
Town Transportation Commission on many occasions.
• The Commission offers the following history and on-going
considerations that we are undertaking in an attempt to rectify all
concerns related to this intersection.
• To date, the Town has requested the Department of Transportation
(DOT) to study this intersection on at least two occasions. The first
time was during the Planning Review of the Peconic Landing Facility.
At that time, the DOT determined that existing traffic counts at this
site did not warrant a full Traffic Control Light System for this
intersection. Without meting the minimum warrants required by New
York State Design Specifications, it would not be possible for
the DOT to up-grade the traffic control system there.
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• The ongoing discussions at the Commission level indicated
that the Town was not satisfied with that DOT determination.
As such, a few years later the Commission requested the DOT to
study this intersection again. Unfortunately, the answer came back
the same.
• At this point in time, the Town is working with the Village of Greenport
to find funding to perform a new traffic study to develop a new design
for this intersection that would meet all of the concerns that have
been received as well as the ones developed by the Commission. If
we are successful in completing this task, we will have a preliminary,
shovel ready project that can be used to obtain transportation grants
that may fully fund a project that we can all be proud of.
• The only unfortunate issue is that this process will take time to
develop and we are persistently reaching out to all our local
representatives in an effort to expedite the process.
I hope this explanation lets you appreciate what we are attempting to
accomplish. I can only assume that this is not an acceptable answer
for you to hear, However, I can state for the record that neither is the
Commission.
Sincerely,
Neboysha R. Brashich
Chairman
Cc: Southold Supervisor Scott A. Russell
Deputy Town Supervisor William Ruland
Greenport Village Trustee Mary Bess Phillips
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June 20, 2018
Ms. Jessica Frankel
Chair
Traffic Committee
Orient Association
P. O. Box 282
Orient, New York 11957
Dear Ms. Frankel:
During the monthly Transportation Commission meeting on June 131H,
your request to Supervisor Scott Russell for support of a new traffic
proposal was reviewed. This proposal focuses on speed reduction
from the blinking light in Greenport to the Orient Point Ferry.
The Commission poses no objection to your continuing to work with
the DOT and the State and County legislative representatives in the
ensuing review and approval process as indicated.
It would be appreciated, however, if you could share with us the traffic
study undertaken by the Orient Traffic Committee in delineating and
prioritizing specific areas for speed reduction.
Sincerely,
Neboysha R. Brashich
Chairman
Cc: Southold Supervisor Scott A. Russell
Southold Police Chief Martin Flatley
Thanks so much. And,have a nice week-end too despite the predicted rain..........
On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 04:25 PM, Orlando, Vincent wrote:
Afternoon,
The newly past legislation for the stops signs on the corner of sound ave(old Sound
ave) and Westphalia have been installed today as well as two new painted stop
bars. Which is a three way stop now. We are in the process of purchasing a STOP
stencil so to paint it in front of the stop bar West bound in front of the Church of
the Redeemer.
Have a nice weekend
Vincent Orlando
Town of Southold
Superintendent of Highways
Office: 631-765-3140
vincent.orlando@town.southold.ny.us
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TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
TO: Transportation Commission
FROM: Scott A. Russell, Supervisor
DATE: July 13, 2018
RE: Traffic Calming Propositions
Please review the attached traffic calming propositions from the East Marion
Community Association and provide my office with your findings and
recommendations.
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Scott Russell
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P.O. Box 1179
SUPERVISOR'S OFFICE
Southold, NY, 11971
SOWN OF SOUTHOLD
Dear Supervisor Russell,
The East Marion Community Association (EMCA) has been involved with the Town's comprehensive
planning process since its inception in 2010. We met several times with East Marion residents and
conducted a survey of East Marion residents to identify their primary concerns unique to our hamlet.
East Marion is the smallest hamlet in Southold as well as the most densely populated one. It is the
only hamlet that has only one east-west road. Traffic safety was noted as a top concern by East
Marion residents both at our meetings and in our survey.
EMCA concurs with and supports the Orient Association's (OA) proposition to implement a
consistent speed limit from the blinking light in Greenport to the ferry departure in Orient Point.
Research supports this traffic calming method. EMCA's traffic committee, Grace Griffin and Rob
Hempel,have met with OA's traffic committee,Jessica Frankel,Venetia Hands and Bob Hanlon.
In addition to the consistent speed limit, EMCA sees a need for a crosswalk in the vicinity of the East
Marion Post Office. Our one east-west route is shared by residents,workers, tourists, lavender farm
visitors and ferry traffic. Located within less than a half-mile of such a crosswalk would be our
hamlet's only store,the post office,the firehouse, a church, a hotel, the lavender farm and a farm
stand.With no significant off-road parking in that area, vehicles park on both sides of the road and
pedestrians queue-up waiting for a break in the flow of traffic in order to cross. We understand that
research shows crosswalks slow traffic and make drivers aware of pedestrian traffic.
EMCA representatives have met with you and Chief Flatley concerning various traffic issues. Both
you, and the Chief have addressed our residents about traffic issues at EMCA meetings. While we are
aware that speed limits and signage for crosswalks are controlled by the New York Department of
Transportation (NYSDOT),we hope you can support our efforts in procuring these traffic calming
propositions. EMCA, along with OA, is prepared to work with the NYSDOT and with our state and
county legislative representatives to go through the review and approval process to help solve this
serious traffic problem in East Marion.
Sincerely,
Anne Murray
President, East Marion Community Association
Cc: Chief Martin Flatley
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JOSEPH T.BROWN,P.E.
Regional Director
July 5, 2018
Honorable Scott A. Russell
Supervisor, Town of Southold
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Southold,NY 11971 SUPERVISOR'S OFFILL
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
Subject: Path Through History Museum Signing
Dear Supervisor Russell:
The New York State Department of Transportation (NYSDOT) is developing plans for the
placement of new signs on highways statewide in support of the State's "Path Through History"
program. While the majority of these signs will be placed on highways under the jurisdiction of
NYSDOT, many of the signs need to be placed on highways off of our system. NYSDOT will
install and retain ownership and maintenance responsibility for these signs.
Please see attached list for all sites in Nassau & Suffolk Counties that will get signs from this
program. The signs will be installed at the specified exits and at the major decision points on the
way to the corresponding site.
If you have any questions or concerns, please feel free to contact Nancy Kamel of my staff at
(631) 904-3050.
Thank you for your continued cooperation in transportation related matters.
Very truly yours,
M.T. VIJAYENDRAN, P.E.
Regional Traffic Engineer
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"Path Through History" program signing List
NYSDOT Site Name Address County State Hwy EB Exit WB Exit
Region
301 Main St Suffolk Northern State Parkway 39 39
10 The Whaling Museum Cold Spring Harbor NY 11724
10 Kings Park Hertitage Museum 99 Old Dock Rd Suffolk 25A
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Kings Park,NY 11754
10 Railroad Museum of Long Island 416 N Gaffing Ave Suffolk 25
Riverhead,NY 11901
10 Southampton Arts Center 25 Jobs Ln Suffolk 27
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Southampton,NY 11968
10 Fireboat Fire Fighter Museum Greenport,NY 11944 Suffolk 25 ----- -----