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SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD
SEPTEMBER 5. 1995
WORK SESSION
Present: Supervisor Thomas Wickham, Councilman Joseph J. Lizewski (9:30 A.M.),
Councilwoman Alice Hussie, Councilman Joseph L. Townsend, Jr., Councilwoman Ruth
D. Oliva, Justice Louisa P. Evans, Town Clerk Judith T. Terry, Helen Rosenblum,
Shelter Island Town Attorney, acting on behalf of Town Attorney Laury L. Dowd.
9:10 A.M. Board of Ethics members William Milusich, Chairperson, Richard Ploth,
and Blanche Katz, met with the Town Board to explain their accomplishments to
date, how they view their role of oversight, and their future plans for revising the
Annual Financial Disclosure Statement, reviewing the need for revisions to the Ethics
Law, and to assure that the statement is consistent with the law.
9:40 A.M. Public Safety Dispatcher III John Raynor met with the Board to explain
a proposed agreement with Nextel Communications for the lease of space on the
Town's communications tower in Peconic. Nextel is proposing to pay the Town a
monthly ~ease rate of $1,600 for the privilege. Board agreed to the proposal
(resolution 26), but asked Mr. Raynor to consult with Town Attorney Dowd
concerning the 25 year :length of the lease, which she has a problem with.
9:50 A.M. - Justice Evans updated the Board on Fishers Island matters. One,
would the Town allow their~name to be used in a lawsuit by the Fishers island
Conservancy against the U.S. Navy in a dredging project Board unlikely to
approve such a move. Secondly, the Coast Guard is moving off of the Island and
the people would like them to give their land to the Fishers Island Ferry District
or the Town. At the present time they are attempting to. get legislation toward this
end.
10:15 A.M. Board interviewed Howard Meinke for a position on the Architectural
Review Committee.
10:25 A.M. - Supervisor Wickham advised the Town Board that there is to be an
emergency Greenport Village Board. meeting at 11:30 A.M. to discuss police
protection in the village, and the f'ash of robberies and burglaries over the
weekend. Supervisor Wickham and Poli'ce Chief Droskoski will go to the meeting.
10:30 A.M. - Jody Adams met with the Town Board to discuss her appeal of an
answer she received from Chief Droskoski on a Freedom of Information Request. Ms.
Adams requested flies and records ,pertaining to the investigation of a complaint by
Nina Fischer, and Chief Droskoskl provided six incident Reports, but stated there
were no reports or written material generated in regards to conversations between
the Chief and Nina Fischer., He said that investigative reports are not included in
the statute regarding Freedom of Information Law. However, it was determined that
Detective Reiter conducted ar~ investigation, but did not generate any written
reports.---Accordingly, the appeal' was denied.
t0:50 A.M. Engineering Inspector James Richter met with the Town Board to
i]eview the survey and recommendation study prepared by WPS Consulting Engineers,
P,C. on the general conditioned air change to comply with code, and exhaust hood
changes to conserve energy consumed by the kitchen range exhaust hoods at the
Human Resource Center. It was the conclusion of the report, and Mr. Richter
concurred, that the work proposed by Daniel Karpen is an unnecessary expense
(report on file in Town Clerk's Office). ----Also discussed at this time was the
results of the bids to repair or replace the HVAC system in the east end of Town
Hall {resolution 28).
11:10 A.M. The Town Board discussed the questions raised at the August 22nd
work §ession (a) can the elected office of Receiver of Taxes be replaced by an
appointed office, and (b) what is the timing of Board action necessary to seek a
vote in the November 1995 election. Town Attorney Dowd provided the Board with
a memorandum reviewing the questions, which concluded .that it would be too late
to adopt a local law for consideration at the November 7th election, therefore, if
they wished to proceed a special election would be required to consider the local
law. (Marilyn, Quintana, clerk in the .tax receiver's office, and candidate for
Receiver of Taxes, was iri attendance during this discussiol~.) The Board agreed
that they do not wish to move ahead with the issue at this time, but will consider
it at another time.----Town Clerk Terry submitted for the Board's consideration the
current fees for shellfish, beaches, disposal area. This will be discussed again at
the September 19th work session.
11:30 A.M. - Former Police Officer James Mellas met with the Town Board to request
reimbursement for time spent testifying on behalf of the Town in a lawsuit in the
spring. The Town's insurance company paid for travel expenses, but did not
reimburse him 'for 56 hours of preparation and court time for the lawsuit. He is
requesting $1690.20, which is 56 hours at straight time per hour at the time he
retired from the police department. The Board was divided on whether to pay or
not, even though they received an opinion from the Town's labor management
consultants advising against it, stati0g it would be conferring upon the PBA a
benefit they are not contractually entitled to. The Board reserved decision on this
matter.----in other personnel matters, the Board placed a resolution (32) on the
agenda authorizing the Town Clerk to advertise for a temporary part-time Clerk
Typist for the Justice Court to fill in while an employee is on sick leave.----
Referred a proposed "Local Law in Relation to Members of the Architectural Review
Commit(ee" to the Town and County Planning Boards (29) for recommendations and
reports.----Placed resolutions (30&31) on the agenda to create a second Data Entry
Operator position, and appoint Patricia Garsick, a part-time Clerk Typist at Police
Headquarters, to 'that position. Prior to the 4:30 P.M. meeting these resolutions
~ere Placed on hold to allow B~ard members to research this further.----Resolution 33
/vas p~aced on tile agenda to reappoint the members of the ~rree Committee.
12:t0 P.M. - Recess for tunc~n.
1:45 P.M. Work Session reconvened and the Town Board discussed a proposed
"Local Law in Relation to Flea Markets", placing a resolution {34) on the agenda to
refer it to the Town and County Planning Boards for recommendations and
reports.----Town Board reviewed a proposed letter, on behalf of the Southold Fire
District Commissioners, to residents whose private roads adjacent to their property
ha~)'e accessibility problems and/or poor ,road conditions. The Code requires the
property owners to remedy this problem,----Councilman Townsend discussed a
proposed TDR meeting of select individuals to discuss the TDR proposal.
Councitpeople Hussie and Lizewski said they would like a meeting of the Town Board
members first to discuss the plan before inviting others. Justice Evans said she
also would like to meet and review it and eliminate certain parts before taking it to
the public. Board members Wickham, Townsend, Oliva said they would like to move
forward and get the input of the people in the receiving areas. The Board
ultimately agreed to 45 minutes at the next work session to discuss the TDR
proposal.
2:25 P.M. The 7'own Board discussed the Strong's Marine change of zone decision.
(in attendance - Jeff Strong, Planning Board member William Cremers, Senior
Planner Va[erie Scopaz,) The Board reviewed a letter from Mr. Strong's attorney
Charles Cuddy, citing a discrepancy in subparagraph "b" of the Board's resolution,
which stated a 50 foot scenic easement throughout, when the map submitted with
the change of zone, and wording proposed by Mr. Strong said "a 50-foot scenic
easement as shown on the survey for zoning change as submitted by Peconic
Surveyors, PC under date of March 1, 1995." Discussion ensued by all concerned
and the Board eventually placed a resolution (35) on the agenda to amend their prior
~esolution to conform to the wording in Mr. Cuddy's letter.
3:10 P.M. - Supervisor Wickham updated the Board on the lighting situation at Town
HaH, Police Headquarters, and the Human Resource Center. He said he recently
consulted with Lee Richman who heads the lighting design firm of Nutone Lighting,
and ordered 25 new light bulbs that produce more light, are one-half the cost of
the lights presently in the fixtures, and consume less electricity than those lights.
The Town Board agreed to purchase more of the bulbs for use throughout the
affected buildings.----Town Board reviewed a request recently received by
Supervisor Wickham from The Commoners for the Town to accept title to their
holdings in Peconic and Cutchogue. This matter was referred to the Land
Preservation Committee for recommendation and report. ----The proposal for
implementing the 1996 Grants Program was discussed briefly and will be back on for
discussion at the September 19th work session.
SEPTEMBER 5, 1995
3 ~-3~:25 P.M. Fritz Trinkline, YMCA representative, met with the Town Board to give
an overview of the proposed YMCA to be constructed on Town property at Laurel
Lai<e. Mr... Trinkline went over the proposed costs ~'constructio. o, operating budget,
fund raising plan, types of membership, and displayed artist's renderings of the
proposed building.
4:10 P.M. Supervisor Wickham briefed the Board on the results of the special
meeting of the Greenport Village Board that he attended with Chief Droskoski earlier
in~ the day concerning police protection by the Town.
4:20 P.M. Town Board reviewed the resolutions to be voted on at the 4:30 P.M.
Regular Meeting.
4:28 P.M. - Work Session adjourned.
REGULAR MEETING
A Regular Meetin~j of the Southold Town Board was held on September
5, 1995, at the Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York.
Supervisor Wickham opened the meeting at ~,:30 P.M. with the Pledge of
Alleg'ance to the Flag.
Present:
Absent:
Supervisor Thomas H. Wickham
Councilman Joseph J. Lizewski
Councilwoman Alice J. Hussie
Councilman Joseph L. Townsend, Jr.
Councilwoman Ruth D. Oliva
Justice Louisa P. Evans
Town Clerk Judith T. Terry
Town Attorney Laury L. Dowd
SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Would anyone llke to move the approval of the audit?
Moved by Councilwoman Otiva, seconded by Supervisor Wickham, it was
RESOLVED that the followin~l - bills be and hereby ordered paid:
General Fund Whole Town bills in the amount of $5L~,410.69; General Fund
Part Town bills in the amount of $716.35; Community Development Fund
bills in the amount of $2,842.32; Highway Fund Whole Town bills in the
amount of $18,253.86; highwaY Fund Part Town bills in the amount of
$19,099.99; Lighting/Heating Capital A/C bills in the amount of $595.00;
Employee Health Benefit Plan bills in the amount of $19,351.09; Fishers
Island Ferry District bills in the amount of $3,025.67; Refuse E Garbage
District bills in the amount of $22,006.10; Fishers island Sewer District
bills in the amount of $375. 00; Southold Agency & Trust bills in the amount
of $4,871.83; Fishers Island Ferry District Agency & Trust bills in the
amount of $1,059.61.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva,
Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Supervisor Wickh am.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Councilwoman Oliva, it was
RESOLVED that the minutes of the August 22, 1995, town Board meeting
be and hereby are approved.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva,
Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Supervisor Wlckham.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
Moved by Councilwoman Ollva, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was
RESOLVED that the next regular meeting of the Southold Town Board will
be held at 7:30 P.M., Tuesday, September 19, 1995, at the Southold Town
Hall, Southotd, New York.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva,
Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Supervisor Wickham.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
I. REPORTS.
1. Southold Town Planning Board Monthly Report for July, t995.
2. Southold Town'Animal Shelter Monthly Report for July, 1995.
3. Southold Town Building Department Monthly Report for August, 1995.
II. PUBLIC NOTICES.. None.
III. COMMUNICATIONS. None,
IV. PUBLIC HEARINGS. None
V. RESOLUTIONS.
SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: We have before us this afternoon an agenda of
some thirty-five, or thirty-six, or so resolutions. They are all listed here
in front of you. The last page of the agenda notes we have the order of
business of today's Work Session'. The Work Session began at nine o'clock
this morning, and ended about five minutes ago. The different issues, that
we were addressing are shown on that last page. In the interest of brevity,
and to get on with this meeting today, because I see there are quite a
number of people here, who may wan.t to address the Board. I'm not going
totake the time to summarize or comment on our Work Session, and at any
event some of that action is reflected in resolutions, that we're about to
take up this afternoon. We have no public hearings scheduled for today, so
the Board will take up the thirty-five, or thirty-six, resolutions before
us. At the end of those resolutions any member of the audience, who would
like to address the Board on any matter of his, or her, concern is invited
to do so. Before we go into today's resolutions, is there anyone here who
would llke to address the Board on any of these resolutions? Yes?
KEN LEUDECKER~ Ken Leudecker from Greenport. I'm not sure, but
was a resolution, a late resolution submitted about the Strong's Marina,
docking about boats, and that area?
SUPERVISOR WJCKHAM: Yes.
KEN LEUDECKER: Then I would like to address the Board. I just want to
remind you that the decision making process, that went into, first the zone
change recommendations, you passed the zone change based on no small part
hopefully on the negative SEQRA Review, the Negative Dec., and within that
review under reasons for the Negative Dec. the Trustees corroboration with
the Negative Dec was cited, and then being cited ! think it assumes that
their recommendations would be followed, and I have their recommendations.
t says under three, however, if marine and boat use structures are placed
in the water adjacent to the new zoning proposal, then it would be a
substantial expansion of the mar?no, and would warrant an Environmental
Impact Statement. It seems to me at this point, and proposing to put marine
and boat use structure, namely ~tocks, or boats, in that area now that's
adjacent to the rezoned property you are undermining a major factor, or
argument that was used in issuing the Negative Dec, unless actually
undermining the whole decision making process by which the land was
rezoned. I' think at the. very best it would indicate that the Town Board is
acting at cross purposes with the Trustees, and consider putting boat use
structures in that area Of the water.
SUPERVISOR WICKHAM; I don't think that the action before us today
changes in any way, what we adopted last time in regard to that basin. Am
I right? In other words, the decisions that's before us today does not
relate to that basin, and the docks there.
KEN LEUDECKER: Oh, it doesn't? This is just the berm you're
addressing?
SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: The width and the extent of that berm off to the
south.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: I want to elaborate a little bit. I think that
maybe there was an opinion, I think even among the Town Board, that there
was going to be only existing use in that llttle..it's north of the tie
line, it's south of the tie line. There's a little inlet back there. That
we approved, you know, no usage north of the tie line, but the tie line
happens to correspond with the mouth of that inlet. So, south of the tie
line there are, .he told us today that he's planning to put boats or
something there,
KEN LEUDECKER: I would still run counter to the Trustee's
recommendations. I mean, that's still water adjacent to the rezoned land.
SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: May I have a minute with the Board? The issue
really is that has been a storage area. It's now proposed for regular boats,
Mr. Leudecker suggestion is, that this may change the Negative
Declaration, and the appropriateness of a Negative Declaration, if we know
that, that is going to happen. In view of that, is there any interest to
review this over a two week period, before we enact it.
JUSTICE EVANS: That part is already enacted, so it's not going to change.
SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: It has noticing to do with the decision that is
before us today. The decision before us today is to modify the extent and
width of the easement/ the buffer next to the channel there.
KEN LEUDECKER: So, none of the covenants and restrictions are
pertaining to this.
SUPERVISOR WICKHAM; There is no change in any of that.
KEN LEUDECKER: I'd llke to give you a copy of the Trustee's letter.
SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Would anyone else llke to address the Board on
any one of the resolutions before us tonight?
PETER HARRIS: My name is Peter Harris, 212 Knapp Place, Greenport.
Concerning Resolution #24, authorizing the Supervisor to execute an
agreement between the County Department of Public Works, and the Town of
S0uthold for the installation of traffic control device on Route 48, Middle
Road, Horton's Lane. My question is to what conclusion did the Town and
the County of Suffolk come to the conclusion that Horton's Lane would be an
appropriate site for a traffic light. I can give you three right off the top
of my head, Peconlc Lane, Cox Lane, and Depot Lane. A tremendous amount
of accidents, two members of my family over the past three years, have
been invoived in accidents on County 48, one someone failed to yield the
right-of-way at Depot. My father was involved by the Southold Town
Landfill. Someone failed to yield the right-of-way. I think if the Town
"could coordinate with the County of Suffolk, I think traffic lights,
especially between Depot and Cox, would alleviate a tremendous amount of
danger, that people are trying to egress into the Landfill from the
eastbound side, and people trying to exit the Landfill to get a break in
traffic.
SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: That's'a very good point, and as a matter of fact,
that point was raised at the last Town Board meeting, and as a result of
that, we are calling on Suffolk Coun.ty to, please, do a traffic survey of
traffic in that region between Cox's Lane and Depot Lane, and in particular
around the dump and the Baptist Church, to consider ways to alleviate the
traffic hazard there.
PETE HARRIS: Peconic Lane, also, is a very dangerous intersection due to
the fact, that you have trees to the west. You have to actually come out
into the intersection to see eastbound coming traffic. I, myself, I work for
the Department of Transportation of New York, and there's many times I use
PeconJc Lane to go to the Landfill, and do the trees, and being in a truck,
a higher vehicle, you can't see through the trees. You can't even see the
westbound traffic coming, let alone having to pull o~Jt for eastbound traffic.
SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: There are steps we can do to deal with that. Let
me just comment, that we have asked..the Board decided just in the five
before 5:30 to withdraw this particular resolution for tonight, not because
we don't want it [o happen, but because we don't know the financial costs
involved, and we wanted to get a little more information on it, so this
particular resolution on Horton's Lane traffic will not come up tonight.
But, it's probably going to be on our agenda very shortly.
PETER HARRIS: Believe me, it's long overdue. There are other ones that
are long overdue, also.
SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: That was the conclusion of the Suffolk County
traffic engineers, who studied the problem. Would anyone else like to
address the Board this afternoon on any one of the thirty-some resolutions
before us? Yes, sir?
DAVID CORWIN: My name is David Corwin, and I would like to address
Resolution #9, where you're going to hire a Peter Bee' for some legal work. I
think it's a waste of money. I don't think you can win this endeavor. I
think you're persecuting a man, that hasn't been proven guilty of anything
in this situation. I think if you dr. op this endeavor you'll eliminate the
major hurdle in your efforts to increase the police manpower in Southoid
Town. Also, number 26, if I could. Nextel is going to rent some space on
the tower in Peconlc. Could you indicate what they're going to use it for,
and what frequency ~hey're operating?
SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: ! don't know the frequency, but there's new
technology in beepers, and cellular phones, different from the Cellular One,
that is already in use out here. It's a technology that would result in far
cheaper phone calls using cellular technology. It's just a different
technology, but related. 'This Nextel uses that new generation technology,
that would result in major cost savings to people who used it. That was the
technology that was mostly used in coordinating among the different fire
departments fighting [he Westhampton blaze. They are proposing to put up
aerial on the tower there. Would anyone else llke address the Town Board
on any resolutions in front of us? (No response.) If not, I think we're
ready to start.
· -Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
authorizes 'the Town Clerk to advertise for bids for the following items for
1996:
Milk for the Nutrition Center
Food for the Nutrition Center
Police Department Uniform Clothing
Cleaning Uniforms of the Members of the Police Department
Gasoline for Town Vehicles
Heating Fuel Oil for Town Buildings
Diese' Fuel for Highway Department and Disposal Area
Removal and Disposal of Household-Hazardous Waste from Collection Center
Removal of Scrap Tires from Disposal Area
Removal of Scrap Metal from Disposal Area
Town Yellow Garbage Bags
.- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman
Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Supervisor Wickham.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
2.-Moved by Councilman Lizewski, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts
the resignation of Susan M. Ravenhall as a School Crossing Guard,
effective August 24, 1995.
2.- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva,
Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussle, Councilman Lizewski,
Supervisor Wickham.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
3.- Moved by Justice Evans; seconded by Councilwoman Oliva, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies
the General Fund Whole Town 1995 Budget to transfer code supplement
appropriation in the Town Clerk's 1995 budget to the Town Board's t99B
budget, wh[ch ~s near exhaustion:
To:
A1010.~.100.125Town Board, Supplies F, Materials
Code Updates & Law Books
From:
A1u, 10.~.100.135 Town Cle.rk, Supplies & Materials
General Code Supplements
3.- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans,
Councilman Townsend,. Councilwoman Hussle,
Supervisor Wickham.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
$ 2,300.00
$ 2,300.00
Councilwoman Oliva,
Councli~an Uzewski,
3 3 6 SEPTEMBE. 199
4.-Moved by Supervisor Wickham, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints
Frank Lyburt as a School Crossing Guard for the Mattituck School post at
the intersection of Wickham Avenue and Pike Street, AND as a part-time
Traffic Control Officer, effective immediately through June, 1996, at which
time he will again assume the full-time duties of a Traffic Control Officer.
~.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Ollva,
Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussle, Councilman Lizewski,
Supervisor Wickham.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
5.-Moved by Supervisor Wickham, seconded by Councilwoman Ollva, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
authorizes the closure of Case's Lane, Cutchogue, on Saturday, October 10,
t995 between t~e Village Green and the Library (with the road blocks to be
placed so as not to block the entire Library parking lot and continue south
£o the end of (he Village Green to allow access to all homes from the other
end of Case's Lane) between 9:00 A.M. and ~:30 P.M., Saturday, October
7, 1995, as a safety precaution during 'the annual Harvest Festival to be
held by the Mattltuck Lioness Club on the Village Green, Main Road,
Cutchogue, N.Y., pr. ovided they file with the Town Clerk a One Million
Dollar Certificate of Insurance naming the Town of Southold as an additional
insured.
5.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Ollva,
Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewskl,
Supervisor ~ickham.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
(;.-Moved by Councilwoman Oliva, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies
the General Fund Part Town 1995 Budget to provided the necessary funds to
pay the attorney's fees in the 1991 Kilfoil v. Town of Southold mat~er:
To:
B1~20.[~.500.200 Legal Counsel $ 19,05~.98
From:
B1~20.~.600.100 Zahra Settlement $ 19,05q.98
6.- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva,
~ Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Supervisor Wlckham.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
7.-Moved by Counc[Jwoman Hussie, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts
the bid of Miller Environmental Group Inc., Calverton, N.Y., in the
amount of $8,050.00, for providing and installing a Water Treatment System
at the Human Resource Center, all in a'ccordance with the bid specifications.
7.- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva,
Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman LizeWski,
Supervisor Wickham.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
8.-Moved by Councilman Lizewskl, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southotd hereby
authorizes and directs Supervisor Thomas Wickham to execute agreements
with the following individuals for the 199B Fall Recreation Programs, all in
accordance with the approval of the Town Attorney:
Lisa ~agliv± iwatercolo~) ............................. $25/ho~r
Thomas Boucher (guitar) ............................... $20/hour
Shirley Darling (tennis) .............................. SiT/class
East End Insurance Services (defensive driving) ....... $35/person
Tom Fox (cartoon drawing) ............................. S24/class
Dan Gebbia (dog obedience) ............................ S45/dog
Hidden Lake Farms (horseback) ........................ S175/uerson
'Impac~ Consulting (calligraphy) ....................... SlS/hour
Impact Consulting (makeover program) .................. $22/hour
Kid 'N Round - Theresa Walker (kids playgenter) ....... S35/chi!d
Kid 'N Round - Theresa Walker (parent's time-out) ...... $9/chitd
Eleonora Kopek (.arts & crafts) ........................ $17/class
Matt±tuck Lanes (bowling) ............................. $32/person
Basil Northam (adventures/walking program) ............ Sl7/hour
Scott Hilary (outdoor education) ...................... S25/hour
Lauren Presster (teen nights) ......................... $16/hour
Theresa Pressler (youth program} ...................... Sl7/hour
~artha Prince (step aerobics) ......................... s20/hour
Jeanne Ruland (aerobics) .............................. S20/hour
Sam Smith (youth basketball) .......................... $16/hour
Steve Smith (weight training) ......................... Si7/hour
Steve Smith (men's basketball/volleyball) ............. Sl5/hour
JoA_nn Terkowski (folk dancing) ........................ S16/hour
Mary Van Deusen (line dancing) ........................ S30/hour
Chris Vedder {golf) ............. : ...................... $37.50/person
Dorothy Wolf (bridge) ........ ~..; ..................... $25/hcur
YMCA/Theresa Marmo (parent/toddler program} ........... S30/parent
8.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva,
Councilman Townsen'd, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman LizewskJ,
Supervisor WJc[%ham.
This resolution was ~duly ADOPTED,
9.-Moved by Super. visor 9/ickham, seconded by Councilman Townsend, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
authorizes Peter Bee of the law firm of Bee E Eisman to represents the
Town of Southold in court proceedings involving the qualifications of
persons on the preferred police hiring civil service list.
9.- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva,
Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Supervisor Wickham. No:
Councilman Lizewskl.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
10.-Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Councilman LJzewskJ, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants
permission to Public Safety Dispatcher III John Raynor to attend the
annual New York State Disaster Preparedness Conference at Albany, N.Y.,
on September 10-13, 1995, and the $75.00 registration fee, and necessary
expenses for meais, lodging and travel, using a Town vehicJe, shall be a
Jegal charge to the 1995 Budget.
10,- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva,
Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman HussJe, Councilman LizewskJ,
Supervisor WJckham.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
11 .-Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by Councilwoman Ollva, it was
RESOLVED that the ' Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
authorizes Data Control Supervisor Jeanne Ruland and Data Equipment
Operator Mark Oajowski to attend a~ Advanced AS/~00 Applications seminar-
at IBM, Jericho, N.Y., on Tuesda:y, September 12, 1995, from 9:15 A.M.
until 11:~5 A.M., will mileage reimbursement a legal charge to the 1995
Central Data Processing Budget..
11 .- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva,
Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussle, Councilman Lizewski,
Supervisor Wickham.
Th]s resolution was duly' ADOPTED.
12.-Moved by Councilwoman Oliva, seconded by Supervisor Wlckham, it was
RESOLVED that the Town 'Board of the Town of Southold hereby reduces
ti~e price for one volume of Liber, D from $~,0.00 to $20.00, the hard cover
Houses of Southold book from $25.00 to $15.00, and the soft cover Houses of
Southold book from $15.00 to $7.00, effective August 29, 1995; and
BE iT FURTHER RESOLVED that the wholesale 'prlce for the above
mentioned volumes shall be 'as follows: Liber D - $10.00; hard cover Houses
of Southold - $9.00; soft cover Houses of Southold - $~.00.
~2.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Otiva,
Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewskl,
Supervisor Wlckham.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
13.-Moved by Supervisor Wickham, seconded by Councilwoman Oliva, it was
RESOLVED that the ToWn Board of the Town of Southold hereby
authorizes the following budget modification to the General Fund Whole Town
1995 Budget to cover costs incurred through the Youth Scholarship Program
for the 1995 summer season:
From:
A7310.u~.600.300Miscellaneous Programs $ 193.75
(Youth. Scholarship Program)
To:
A7020.L~.100. 100 Recreation Administration $ 193.75
(Office Supplies)
13.- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva,
Councilman Townsend,' Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Supervisor Wickham.
This resolution was d~ly ADOPTED.
14.-Moved by Councilman Lizewski, seconded by Councilwoman Oliva, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
authorizes and directs the Town Clerk .to advertise for School Crossing
Guards.
~4.- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva,
Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Supervisor Wickham.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
15.-Moved by Councilman Lizewski, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorize
and directs the Town Clerk to advertise for resumes for a Records
Management Clerk, 17-1/2 hours per week, $6.30 per hour.
15.- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Council woman Oliva,
Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Supervisor Wickham.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
16.-Moved by Councilwoman Hussle, seconded by Councilwoman Olvia, it was
RESOLVED' that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoin, ts
Scott A. Hilary a member of the Southold Town Conservation Advisory
Council to f]H the unexpired term of Patricia A. Isaksen, effective
immediately through June 18, 1996.
16.- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva,
Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Supervisor Wickham.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
17.-Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Supervisor Wickham, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies
the General Fund Whole Town' 1'996 Budget as follows to find the Uniforms
and Accessories line in the Police budget for the remainder of 1995:
To:
A3120./~.100.60 Police, Contractual Expenses $ 9,000.00
Uniforms & Accessories
From:
A9901.9.100.00 Interfund Transfers $ 9,000.00
Transfers to Health Plan
17.- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva,
Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussle, Councilman Lizewski,
Supervisor Wickham.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
SEPTE~.BER 5, 1995
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18.-Moved by Supervisor Wickham, seconded by Justice Evans,
WHEREAS, production of a new topographic map of the landfill property in
Cutchogue is required in order for Closure Investigation work to proceed in
accordance with the Town's stipulated agreement with the DEC; now,
therefore, be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold authorizes the
firms of Aerographics, Geomaps, and Van Tuyl, PC, to perform the
work necessary to produce a topographic map of the Cutchogue Landfill at a
total cost not to exceed $8,500.00.
!8.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes:.. Justice Evans, Councilwoman Ollva,
Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Supervisor Wickham.
This resolution was duly adopted.
19.-Moved by Councilman Lizewski, seconded by Councilwoman Oliva, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
authorizes the following modification of the Solid Was.te Management District
1995 Budget to provide funds for a new topographic map of the
property in Cutchogue as required for Closure Investigation work:
To:
SR8160.~1.400. 100 Engineering S 8,500.00
From:
SR8160.u,.400.805 MSW Removal $ 8,500.00
19.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva,
Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman HussJe, Councilman Lizewski,
Supervisor Wickham.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Number 20, appointing a part-time Gate Attendant,
is being withdrawn from our agenda for today. We'll proceed to 21.
2Ll.-Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies
the Genera~ Fund Whole Town 1995 Budget to provlde sufficient
appropriations for the payment of accumulated leave time for two recently
retired employees under the terms of the CSEA collective bar§aini~ng
agreement:
To:
A1310.1.100.300 Accounting ~. Finance, Personal Services $ 4,830.00
Full Time Employees, Vacation Earnings
A1310.1.100.400Accounting & Finance, Personal Services 3,764.00
Full Time Employees, Sick Earnings
A3120.t.100.300 Police, Personal Services 4,187.00
Full Time Employees, Vacation Earnings
A3120.1.t00.400 Police, Personal Services 6,353.00
Full Time-Employees> Sick Earnings
From:
A99019.000.000 Interfund Transfers $ I9,13Lt.00
Transfers to Health Plan
2:] .-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva,
Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Supervisor Wickham.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
22.-Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilwoman Oliva, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
authorizes and directs the Town Clerk to readvertise for resumes for an
EISEP Aide (Expanded In-Home Services for the Elderly Program), up to
17-1/2 hours per week, at a salary of $6.00 per hour.
-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva,
Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski;
Supervisor Wickham.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
23.-Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by Councilwoman Oliva, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts
the bid of Capltal Highway Materials, Inc., in the amount of $38,147.50, for
fabricating and furnishing .all parts and materials required for the complete
assembly of an aluminum structural plate box culvert for the replacement of
the Brushes Creek Bridge, Peconib Bay Boulevard, Laurel, all in accordance
with the bid specifications.
23.- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva,
Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Supervisor Wickham.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Number 24 is, also, being withdrawn until we get
additional cost information of it. (Executing an agreement between the
County of Suffolk, Department of Public Works, and the Town of Southold
for the installation of traffic control devices.)
25.Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Councilwoman Oliva, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
authorizes and directs the Town Clerk to advertise for bids for the purchase
of 500 tons of Bulk Ice Control Rack Salt for the Superintendent of
Highways.
25. -Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva,
Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussle, Councilman Lizewski,
Supervisor Wickham.
This resolution was duty ADOPTED.
26.-Moved by Supervisor Wickham, seconded by Councilwoman Oliva, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
authorizes and directs Supervisor. Thomas Wickham to execute a lease
agreement between the Town of Southold and Smart SMR of New York,
Inc., d/b/a Nextel Communications, for the lease of space on the Town's
communications tower in Peconic, said lease all in accordance with the
approval of the Town Attorney.
26.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva,
Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Supervisor Wickham.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
27.-Moved by Councilwoman Oliva, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies
the Highway Fund Whole Town~1995 Budget as follows:
To:
DA. 5140.1.100.100
F rom:
DA. 5120.1.100. 100
DA.5142.1.100.100
Brush & Weeds, Full Time Employees $ 7,500.00
Regular Earnings
27.-Vote of the Town
Councliman Townsend, Councilwoman
Supervisor Wickham.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
Bridges, Full Time Employees $ 7,500.00
Regular Earnings
Snow Removal, Full Time Employees L~,500.00
Regular Earnings
Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva,
Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
28.-Moved by Councilwoman HUssie, seconded by Councilwoman Ollva, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts
the bid of Cen-Co Organization, Inc., West Babylon, N.Y., in the amount
of $10,111.50, to perform the following work on the H.V.A.C. system located
in the east end of the Southold Town Hall, all in accordance with the bid
specifications:
1. Install a new chiller heat exchanger to retrofit the existing heat
exchanger chiller system, at a total cost of $5,724.00
2. Removal of all fiberglass and plaster insulation on hydronic
heating, ventilation, and air conditioning pipes locate din the rooms
in the east end basement area of the Town Hall, at a total cost of
$4,387.50.
28.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva,
CounciJman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman L~zewski,
Supervisor Wickham.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
SEPTEMBER 5, 1995
341
29.-Moved by Supervisor Wickham, seconded by Councilwoman Oliva,
WHEREAS, there was presented to the Town Board of the Town of
Southoid, a Locat Law entitled, "A Local Law in Relation to Members of the
Architectura[ Review Committee"; now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED that the Town Clerk' be and she hereby is authorized and
directed to transmit this proposed Local Law to the Southold Town Planning
Board and the Suffolk County Department of Planning, all in accordance with
the Southoid Town Code and the Suffolk County Charter. This Local Law
reads as follows:
A Local Law in Relation to. Members of the Architectural Review Committee
BE IT ENACTED, by the Town Board of the Town of Southold as follows:
I. Chapter 1t0 (Zoning) of the Code of the Town of Southold is hereby
amended as follows:.
1. Section 100-256A is hereby amended by adding the following:
A. The Archite~:tural Review Committee shall consist of five members
appointed by the Town Board to serve at the pleasure of the
Board without compensation. If possible, the members of the
Committee shall be appointed from the following categories: two
members shall be architects or landscape architects, one members
shall be from the Landmark Preservation Commission, and two
members shall be appointed from resident of each of the hamlets of
the town. The hamlet members shall vary and shall sit only on
the site plans which'are proposed in the hamlet. The hamlet
members shall sit only on the site plans which are proposed in
their areas. The hamlet members shall be from the following
areas: two from Fishers Island; two from Orient/East
Marion/Greenport~ two frz~m Southold/Peconic, two from New
Suffolk/Cutcho~lue, two from Mattituck/Laurel.
This Local Law shall take effect upon filing with the Secretary of
State.
of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva,
Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
29. -Vote
Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman
Supervisor Wickham.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR WICKHAMi Numbers 30 and 31 are both being withdrawn until
we can do a little more research on them.
33. - Vote
Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman
Supervisor Wickham.
This resolution was duty ADOPTED.
32.'=Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Councilman Townsend, it
was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
authorizes and directs the Town Clerk to advertise for resumes for a
part-time Clerk Typist for the Justice Court, 17-1/2 hours per week, $6.82
per hour.
32.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman OI]va,
Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewsk~,
Supervisor Wickham.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
33.-Moved by Councilwoman Oliva, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints
the following indlv~duals as members of the Southold Town Tree Committee,
for a two (2) year term, effective September 22, 1995 through September 22,
1997:
Edward D. Dart, Chairman
David A. Blados
Daniel Gladstone
Noreen Schf~oeder
Ural Talgat
Keith W. Whitsit
Donald Wilcenskl
Raymond L. Jacobs, Supt. of Highways - ex officio member
Antonla S. Booth, Historian - ex officio member
of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oiiva,
Hussle, Councllman Lizewsk~,
34.- Moved by Councilwoman HussJe, seconded by Supervisor Wlckham,
WHEREAS, there was presented to tile Town Board of the Town of
Southold, on the 5tl~ day of Sel~tember, 1995, a Local Law entitled, "A
Local Law in Reiatlon to Flea Markets'l; now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED that the Town Clerk be and she hereby is authorized and
directed to transmit this proposed Local Law to the Southdld Town Planning
Board and the Suffolk County Department of Planning, all in accordance with
the Southold Town Code and the Suffolk County Charter. This Local Law
reads as follows:
A Local Law in Relation to Flea Markets
BE IT ENACTED, by the Town Board ~f the Town of Southold as follows:
I. Chapter 100 (Zoning) of the Code of Town of Southold is hereby
amended as follows:
1. Section 100-13B is hereby amended by adding the following definition:
FLEA MARKET -An out-of-doors market operated only during daylight
hours where new or used items are sold from individual locations,
with each location being operated independently from the other
locations, items sold include but are not limited to household
items, antiques, rare items, decorations, used books and used
magazines. This shall' not include sales by a nonprofit organization
on 'an occasional basis.
2. Section 91B(10) is hereby amended by adding the following:
(10) Flea Markets.
3. Section 100-101B(17) is hereby amended by adding the following
(17) Flea Markets.
* Underline represents additions.
ii. This Local law shall take effect upon its filing with the Secretary of
State.
34.- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva,
Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Supervisor Wickham.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED,
35, -
Moved by Supervisor Wickham, seconded by Councilwoman Oliva, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby amends
resolution no. 16, adopted on August 22, 1995, granting a change of zone to
Strong's Marine, Irc., by changing subparagraph b. to read as follows:
b. That there shall be a BO-foot scenic easement as shown on the Survey
for Zoning change as submitted by Peconlc Surveyors, PC, under
date of March 1, 1995.
The resolution granting the Strong's Marine, Inc. change of zone petition
reads as follows:
WHEREAS, Strong's Marine, Inc., by petition filed April 12, 1995, applied to the
Town Board of the Town of SouthoId for a change of zone on cedain property
located at the end of a right-of-way off Camp Mineola Road, and adjacent to
James Creek. Mattituck, New Yokk, (SCTM #1000-122-4-44:2), from Low Density
Residential (R-80) District to Marine (M-l) District; and
WHEREAS. said petition was referred to the Southold Town Planning Board and
the Suffolk County Department of Planning for official recommendations and
reports; and
WHEREAS, the Trustees and Planning Board have recommended/he proposed
rezoning and will be reviewing any development of the property pursuant to site
plan and wetland regulations: and
WHEREAS, the subject property is adjacent roan existing marina and the
Comprehensive Plan calls for efficient use of the limited areas available for
marina uses; and
WHEREAS the subject oroperty, together with the existing marina, is located on
a peninsula and are geographically separated from surrounding residential uses,
which separation will be preserved by the following conditions:
WHEREAS, a Negative Declaration was issued on June 22, 1995 which found
that the proposed "ezoning would not'have a significant effect on the
environment: and
WHEREAS. the Town Board, Pursuant to due notice~ held a public hearing
thereon on lhe 25th day of July, 1995, ,at which lime all interested persons were
given an opportunity to be heard: now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED that the proposed rezoning is found to be consistent with the
Town's Comprehensive Plan: and be it further
RESOLVED that Strong's Marine, Inc. be and hereby is granted a change of
zone from Low Density Residential (R-80) District to Marine (M-l) District on the
following described property: Beginning at the nodheasterly corner of the parcel
about to be described, which corner is located the following six (6) courses and
distances from a point on the easterly side of Olejulane, which point is 154 97
feet southerly from the point on the eastedy side of Olejulane. which point is
I54 97 feet southerly from the point on the easterly side of Olejulane, which
'point is 154.97 feet Southerly from the intersection of the southerly side of Kraus
Road and the easterly side of Olejulane: (1) South 80 degrees 39 minutes 10
seconds East, 423.36 feet; (2) South 11 degrees 22 minutes 50 seconds West
174.33 feet; (3) South 22 degrees 13 minutes 00 seconds West. 293.00 feet: (4)
South 57 degrees 21 minutes 20 seconds West, 100.99 feet: (5) South 44
degrees 10 minutes 10 seconds West, 160.97 feet; (6) South 35 degrees 19
minutes 00 seconds West, 95.30 feet;, running thence Jrom the true point or
place of beginning, South 35 degrees 19 rain utes 00 seconds West, 302 73 feet:
thence South 18 degrees 48 minutes 20 seconds East, 106.14 feet; thence
South 71 degrees 11 minutes 40 seconds West, 380 feet, more or less, to the
ordinary high water mark of James Creek; thence along the ordinary high water
mark of James Creek, and a'dredged canal, a distance of 850 feet to a point and
lands now or formerly of E. E. Wilsberg; thence South 30 degrees 29 minutes 40
seconds East, 85 feet,, more or less, to the point of beginning; all to be condi~
tioned upon the execution and recording of C&Rs by the pro. perty owner in a
form acceptable to the Town Attorney and Which make the following covenants:
a. That no boat rack be located within 100 feet of the northerly tie line
(atong the dredged canal) of the parcel; and
That there shall be a 50-foot scenic easement as shown on the Survey
for Zoning change as submitted by Peconic Surveyors, PC, under date
of March 1. 1995; and
35.-Vote of
Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman
Supervlsor Wickham,
Thls resolution was duly ADOPTED.
Hussle,
That there shall be no dockage north of the northerly tie line of the
property (along the dredged (;;anal); and
There shall be no structure or rack at the two M-1 zoned parcels owned
by Strong's Marine Inc. which would exceed 28 feet in height, and no
boat placed on this rack may exceed 28 feet in height.
the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva,
Councilman Lizewskl,
SUPERVISOR WICKHAM; I have one additional resolution this afternoon
dealing with a commemoration for the many organizations, that helped in
controlling the Westhampton blaze some ten, twelve days ago. We have a
couple of additional organizations, that were represented this morning, that
were added to this list.
36.-Moved by Supervisor Wickham, seconded by Justice Evans,
WHEREAS in recog~itlon of the dedication of the flreflghters of the
Volunteer Fire Department of Orient, East Marion, Oreenport, Southold,
Cutchogue and Mattltuck in fighting the Westhampton Brush Fires; and
WHEREAS these men and women risked their own lives to protect the lives
and homes of others; and
WHEREAS these firefighters fought' tirelessly for a period of more than 36
hours; and
WHEREAS joining the efforts Of the Volunteer Fire Departments. the
Peconic Amateur Radio Club, the Southold Town Unit of ARES, (Amateur
Radio Emergency Services) provided emergency communications and support
services at the Westhampton Brush Fires; and
WHEREAS such services consisted of providing communications at
emergency evacuation centers; and, assisting the Red Cross in the operation
of said centers; and
WHEREAS in support of ali those who volunteered, there were also the
residents of the Town such as Julie Kibler, who gave her time in
organizing a food drive and gert!nc said food to the firefightens 'n
Westhampton; and
WHEREAS in recognition of the people and businesses in the Town of
Southold who, in turn, donated the food sent to Westhampton; there~fore,
be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
recognizes the dedication of and the work performed by the volunteer
firefighters of the Town Fire Departments, members of Peconlc Amateur
Radio Club, Southold Town ARES, residents who gave their food, time and
donations to the cause; and therefore, be it further
RESOLVED that the Town Board offers their sincere thanks and
appreciation to all for a job well done.
36.-Vote of' the Town .Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva,
Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Supervisor Wickham.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: We have one more resolution, that reached Judy's
desk this afternoon while we were in session. It's one more technical budget
modification.
37.-Moved by Supervisor Wickham, seconded by Councilwoman Oliva, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
authorizes the following 1995 Budget modification to the General Fund Whole
Town to appropriated donated funds for various D.A.R.E. items:
To:
Revenues:
A2705.60 Gifts & Donation, D.A.R.E. Donations $ 100.00
Appropriations:
A3157.~.600.200Juvenile Aide Bureau, Contractual Exp. $ 100.00
D.A.R.E. Training
37.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva,
Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussle, Councilman Lizewski,
Supervisor Wickham.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: That comPletes the resolutions before us today.
Now, we have the opportunity to listen to you, to hear views of people of
the town on any matter, that is on your mind, that you'd like to acquaint
the Board with your views. Please' keep your comments within five minutes,
because there are a number of people out here, and I'm sure that lots of
you would like to address the Board, and we all have other things that
we're going to have to do, in particular, Louisa has to reach a plane at
7:00 to get back to where she came from this morning. With that brief
introduction, we'd be pleased to hear from people in the audience. I see a
gentleman with his hand up.
DAVID CORWIN: My name is David Corwin. This letter is dated
September 3rd, Southold Town Board. Ladies and Gentlemen, as I am sure
you are well aware there has been a wave of crime in the Village of
Greenport. The questions of parking and noise control can be argued.
Robbery, burglary, thief and vandalism cannot be argued. People are afraid
to leave their houses at night, the Town Board simply must provide more of
a police presence in the Village of Greenport. Police Chief Droskoskl
recommended making Greenport a separate sector with eight police officers
and a detective. The Town Board has hired one additional police officer and
has apparently eliminated the occasional fifth sector that was located in
Mattituck. Police Committee member Joe Gold has indicated that the Southold
Town Police Department is not in' need of a large increase in manpower, if
the Town Board is not going to hire additional police officers, the existing
sectors should be reorganized to make the Village of Oreenport one sector as
the Police Chief originallY recommended. I have a postscript to this letter.
I certainly don't want to take anything you said out of context, Supervisor
Wlckham, so you will correct me if' I'm wrong. The Supervisor stated at a
meeting with the Greenport Village Board on September 5th that Greenport
would get the same level of police presence as the rest of Southold Town.
The problem with this statement is that the demographics and the social
problems in Greenport require a level of police presence that is larger then
the rest of Southold Town.
SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: i'm not clear as to exactly what I said. What I
meant was that we would provide the full level of protection equal to
everybody in the town, irrespective of where they come from. Maybe it
would be better to hear a lot of the comments first, before we respond to
it, because I think there are a lot of people out there, who, J think, have
this issue on their minds, it would be good to get all the views out here
first, before we respond. Yes, sir, gentleman in the red shirt?
EUGENE MURRAY: Good evening. I'm Eugene Murray, the Mayor of the
Village of RockviHe Centre. I, also, have a condominium in Stetting
Cove, and Supervisor Wickham, I understand your problems with the police.
We have a shortage of police in Rockville Centre right now, because we
don't have llst. We're waiting for it to be released by Judge Meisler at
anytime. 'I'm also not here to criticize the Police Department. I understand
their problems. When we do call the Police, they respond immediately. There
is a shortage, and we know that.~ When they do respond, and take the
reports. What has to be done is also a follow-up. You try and find out who
.is' committing these crimes to get them off the street. It is a small
village. It is a small group doing this. You know. it's more than one person,
and it's gotten out of hand as far as the muggings now. We've had a
mugging in our area the other night again, coming from our condo group,
one of the. residents, driver of the bread truck, and another man from
:Oreenport. Something really has .to done. I was very impressed by listening
to your Work SesSion, about the Police Department before~ and how you are
following through. I'm very happy with that. I know it's a very serious
problem, and again, if we could get the people off the streets, who are
creating these problems, I t?nk that' would also calm the residents down,
and al~o help Che'm with police presence. I was very impressed with your
order of business 'here, that you started at nine in the morning, and at 4-:30
go right into another meeting. That's a lot of work. Thanks very much.
SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Thank for being with us. Would anyone else like to
address the Board, and since we're on the topic of Greenport, there may be
other issues that other people ,want to bring to us, but why don't we focus
the discussion on p? ice prOtect,on in Greenport, and everyone who wants to
address that iquest~on, ~ow is the time. Yes, sir? we have the Mayor of
Greenport.
DAVID KAPELL: Supervisor, members of the Town Board, i beg your
indulgence. ~ may r-un slightly over five minutes, but I'll try and keep it
to a minimum. This is an ~mportant topic, and I want to offer my views
comprehensively, but concisely. My mother always taught me as a kid, that
big problems grow out of small problems, and it was in that spirit, that I
came before this Board a month ago, and expressed my concern over the
apparent default, or refusal, on the part of the Town to enforce certain
Village Ordinances with respect to parking regulations, noise complaints,
and other relatively minor issues, which had cropped up within the Village.
It was my view at the time, that inaction on these fronts would send a
message to the community at large, that only partial attention was being
pa!d to the Village of Greenport, I'm sad and duty-bound, frankly, at this
point to come b~fo~e the Board this evening, to report that my fears have
been confirmed, that in the ensuing weeks we have been struck in
Greenport by what can only be described as a crime spree, which has
rendered the Village tihn~t~o..,, a state of fear, and has threatened the very
peaceful enjoyment, ' the rest of us are entitled to, not only in
Greenport, but throughout the Town of Southold. To illustrate that, I want
to read briefly some excepts from the Police report as published in the
~attituck Traveler-Watchman for t, he last few weeks. I'm going to start out
with a report, that dOeSn't'relate to the Vii age, but I think it sets the
context perhaps :fe!r the .Town, as including the Vi lage This is from the
Augus~t 3, '1995 "a~dition' of the Traveler-Watchman. /~ Ma~ttituck man was
arrested Tuesday morning for allegedly firing a twelve gauge shotgun twice
at a car occupied by four youths. The incident allegedly happened Monday
night. Douglas A Cooper, ~7, of Bergen Avenue, was charged with first
degree reckless endangerment. No one was reported injured, but the car
had damaged tires, and tail lights. From the August 10, 1995, addition, a
Greenport teenager was arrested Saturday night for allegedly destroying the
inside of a house on Sixth Street in Greenport. Again, on August 10th a
Oreenport man reported Monday morning that someone entered bls Queen
Street business, and removed $782.00 in cash and coins from a cash box. On
August 17th a Greenport man was arrested Saturday night for allegedly
robbing a person of a gold cross and chain on First Street in Greenport.
Earlier in the evening James Lawrence, Jr., e~ghteen, of Center Street was
charged with third degree robbery. On August 2~lth, a Greenport man
reported Sunday that someone entered bls Route 25 home, and removed
$70.00 in cash, a leather jacket, and a purse, and a small container of
loose change. Also, on August 2~th, a Greenport woman reported
Tuesday, that while Walking alone along Adams Street in Greenport a robber
with a white towel around his head, demanded her money, two gold
bracelets, and a wristwatch. Also, on August 2~th, a Greenporter
reported Sunday that someone broke the south side window of his Third
Street restaurant wlth a candle holder. On August 31st, a Greenport man
reported Tuesday morning that while he was walking on Wiggins Street in
Creenport a man threatened him wlth a pocket knife, and forceable removed
his wallet from him. During the scuffle the victim claimed to have removed
the ski mask, that the robber was wearing. Police recovered the mask and
placed it with other evidence. On the same day, another Greenport man
reported Tuesday morning that while he was at a Route 25 convenience ~tore
in Greenport a man forcibly removed a gold chain from his neck. According
to police a man has been questioned on the incident, but no arrests have
been made. The value.of the chain was not available. On the same day, a
Greenport woman reported Saturday night, that while she was walking along
Bay Avenue, a man came from behind her, and removed her pocketbook from
her shoulder. The ~tems ,n the pocketbook were valued at $50.00. On the
same day., a Bayshore man reported Thursday morning that while he was
delivering bread to a South Street grocery store in Greenport, two men
threatened him with a kitchen knife, and demanded money. The victim was
able to escape, and call the police. Upon his return he found the two
suspects had removed' a stereo, and money from his vehicle. On the same
day, Friday morning a Greenport man reported that someone entered his
Route 25 restaurant and removed $56.00 from the bar area. Again on the
same date, Southold Police reported that they are investigating several
petty larceny incidents, that have occurred in Greenport involving several
vehicles break-ins. Police believe that the crimes are linked. Supervisor,
on Friday of last week I contacted.you by phone, and expressed my alarim at
what had transpired up to that point. Based on our conversation ~n which
you indicated to me, that the Town Police leadership had stated to you, that
due to this manpower problem, that they dld not feel that they had the
resources necessary to adequately protect the Village. Based on that we
agreed that I would send you a fax of' a letter requesting that addlt~onal
patrols be assigned to the Village. I'm going to read that letter into the
record. This letter is dated September 1, 1995. It was faxed that date to
Supervisor Wickham, to the Chief of Police Droskoski, and to two of the
local newspapers. To the Honorable Thomas Wickham, Town of Southold,
Main Road, SOuthold. Dear Supervisor Wickham. Given the reason for a rash
of unsolved burglaries and robberies, that have taken place in the Village
of Greenport, compounded by the approaching Labor Day weekend, and it's
increase in traffic, Lhis will serve as a request for the immediate
assignment of additional Police and Traffic Control patrols for the Village.
There is a rising sense of alarm in Greenport, that Police protection is
inadequate to guarantee public health, safety, and welfare, ano an
appropriate response is needed on your part, and that of the Town POlice.
If the Southold Town Police are not able to guarantee public safety in the
Village of Greenport, well, for that matter anywhere in the Town of
Southold, ~ ask that you request assistance from New York State Police until
such time as the situation has been rectified. Thls is a matter of utmost
importance to the Village, and the Town, and I ask for .your immediate
attention. Please advise at your earllest opportunity as to what steps will
be taken. Mr. Supervisor, you and I met later again on that date. You, in
fact, conveyed this letter to'the State Police, and communicated wlth them,
and received some assurance from them that they would create a presence in
Greenport. Due to vacations, and klds going away to college, and other kind
of typical life circumstances, that the Southold Town Police would not be a
position to significantly increase their presence in the village over the
weekend. He did, however, indicate that he though he would be able to
provide a traffic control officer (tape change) My alarm developed last
week, as a result with being approached repeatedly by the very people, that
were victimized by these events, that have been reported in the paper.
Over the weekend, unfortunately, that trend continued. I did not see a
Traffic Control Officer assigned to the Village at all over the weekend,
although I do under'stand that there were some State Police patrols at
nighttime hours. I personally did not notice any significant increase in the
presence of the Southold Town Police in the Village. On Sunday morning I
became aware that another series of. incidents had transpired on Saturday
night, namely two women were robbed, mugged is the proper word, in the
backyard of their residential property on quiet Bay Avenue. Apparently, by
the same individual, or an individual matching the description of an
assailants, who five minutes earlier had robbed somebody at the teller
machine of the North'Fork Bank. In addition, I'm informed that at least one
store, if not more, were burglarized on that same evening, one of them
notoriously. I understand, one store was entered, cash register was
removed, and the assailant took ,the cash register and pounded it up and
down on Main Street, trying to get it open, to get the money out. In
addition to that I was contacted last week by the fellow who lives on Second
Street, who had his house burglarized, he informed me after returning to
Greenport after a day; out of town, that every drawer, every cabinet, every
conceivable place where something could be hidden had been emptied, opened
up. His entire house had 'been ransacked. The impression he had, and what
he gave me, was that whoever this was, that was in his house, felt at
liberty to stay there for a long period of time, to do a thorough job. in
addition to that, i'm'informed that a number of my neighbors down in the
Fifth and Sixth Street areas, have had their cars broken into. One of those
neighbors 'approached me at 11:25 this morning, just before I came over .to
meet with you, Mr.: Supervisor, emergency meeting. Her car had been
broken into. This. is a woman, who has had her house broken into a coupte
of times, and lives across the street from the gentleman, who'd had his
house ruined, destroyed. I think that was one of the first articles I read.
We have a state of emergency in the village. This can't go on. We don't
need to live llke this on the east end of Long Island. I'd llke to read a
letter, that I received from a,woman, who was mugged ~ along with her friend
on Bay Avenue on Saturday night. Dear Mayor Kapell. As I told you 'on
the telephone, I was very upset by the incident which occurred on Saturday
night, September 2nd'. To reiterate, I was coming home from visiting
friends on the South Fork. I arri.ved in Greenport on:the 11:15 P.M. ferry
from Shelter island, and turned down Bay Avenue, where .I've been renting
Hope Hendler,'s house for the summer. Just outside the Cinnamon Tr, ee my
progress was impeded by a group Of men, who were standing in the middle
of the street., not moving, and staring at me in my car in a way that was
odd, and disturbing. After a few minutes they moved off, and drove to the
eno of the block, turned around, and parked the car. It took me awhile to
gather up my various parcels, jackets, etc. My friend Tracy Young went
into the yard ahead of me to open.the side door, where we always enter the
house. It was very'dark. While she was fumbling with the house key,
started into the yard, only to be stunned, when a man rushed up behind
me, shoved me violently, and ran off with my. jacket, and ,fanny pack.
yelled for my friend to turn on the lights, and call the poliice, i shouted
after my 'assailant, .a,s he raced through the yard, and crashed over the
fence.-i-he po ice arrived on the scene almost immediately, if. only becadse
they were already in the neighbor investigating an identical purse
snatching, which had taken place just five minutes earlier at the North Fork
Bank on the corner. Shortly thereafter a neighbor showed up from Central
Avenue, and said, he had heard the commotion, and that there was a bag,
and jacket'; in his yard. Soon more officers arrived, and found the other
woman's bag in the ba~k of our yard, and some of the things across the
street,in the neighbors yard. In this case only the case was not recovered.
[ lost about, $150..00., Fortunately,,, no one was hurt, but if I had been an
elderly Person, ike some of my 'helghbors, I could have been badly hurt.
Fortunately, my I.D. was recovered so I wasn't hideously inconvenienced,
but t was shaken, and disturbed. I have never been mugged in New York
City, where t have lived for many years. I have never been mugged in Sag
Harbor, where ~ rented for ~any years. Nor did I ever expect such a thing
to happen on this dinky little block in Greenport. But, in talking with my
neighbors, ! understand that the lack of police has been a factor in the
gl~owing number of criminal activities this summer, and what real,ly disturbed
me, as I talked with the local, people, was the sense of frustration, that no
one was taking the problem seriously, and that any attempts to remedy the
situation were basically., ignored in the interest of saving a few bucks. I've
also overheard a few of my neighbors say that if push came to shove, they
would take out the baseball bats, and do their own police work, which is a
completely understandable response, if not a productive one in the long run.
Another letter I received this morning, which is actually addressed to the
Supervisor, but I was provided a copy. It reads as follows, it's addressed
to Supervisor Wickham, Southold, New YQrk. Dear Sir, I am a reside~t¢
taxpayer of Greenport Village, and Southold Town. The vandalism,
robberies, and assailants on ~aw .abiding citizens 's appalling. Police
protection has dropped within the last few weeks, unlike the high visibility
after the abolishment of the local Police Department. Why? If there is a
dispute between the PBA Village and Town, a lot of the good citizens of
Greenport are caught in the middle. This should not be. Our taxes pay
their salary and benefits. Personally there have been incidents at my home
by a group of youths, who roam the street after dark, urinate on my
property, and front steps. I've got to back up, a group of black youths.
When my cat is out at night, she is stoned. They try to catch her to
torment, and physically abuse her. The same night they also threw stones at
the windows of my 97 year old neighbor. They call you vile, dirty names,
but heaven forbid, if you say a word to them, you are a racist. It is not
only the blacks. There are White youths, who are troublesome. Why are the
good people always the victims, and the criminals pampered? Why must we
purchase sophisticated security systems, and become imprisoned in our
homes, and the criminals go free to do what ever he chooses, knowing that
the' justice system will free them? The Police appear to do nothing, or have
their hands tied by weak supervisors. Those in authority should stand up,
and show strength, not fear. Once we show fear, we are the victims. The
Constitution of the United States says, that we are guaranteed life,
liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. It, also, guarantees us the right to
bear arms against, all foe, foreign and domestic. The aforementioned only
appears to be for the murderer, rapist, robber, and the rabble rouser, not
the good law abiding citizen, who works hard to support his family, and
community. Sincerely yours, Catherine E. Tasker, First Street,
Greenport, also known, as Mrs. Henry Tasker. You may recall that Henry
Tasker was a highly respected jurist in the Town of Southold, and the
County of Suffolk, and the State of New York. We're here with our hat-in
our hands. We don't have a Pollc.e Force anymore. You are our protection.
"' We have an emergency in Greenport. No other word would adequately
describe the circumstance that present themselves in our village. We~ve got
to have help, and we have to have it tonight. We can't wait for the Civil
Service process to be completed. We can't wait for Budget decisions to be
made. Mr. Supervisor, I called you on Sunday, after I learned of these
latest incidents in spite of the-efforts that we 'together made on Friday,
and I told you, that I felt fear for the safety, the personal and physical
safety of my citizens, and you told .me, that you didn't see it that way.
That's what I said, that there is a danger to life and limb, Tom. You said,
I don't see it that way. i think it will keep till Tuesday, when I can have
a chance to talk to Mr. Droskoski.' Now, I~m here tonight. I was approached
again th|s morning by another woman, who had her car broken into. God
forbid I should go another night, and have to meet up with somebody
tomorrow, who may have had worse yet experience. We've got to have action
tonight. A uniformed presence in the Village of Greenport in marked vehicles
is the only thing, that is going to adequately deter, in the short term,
this type of activity, i know from the explanation you gave us at our
emergency meeting this morning, that the Police are conducting undercover
activities. I'm sure that in good faith they're attempting to ~nvestigate
the three dozen or so outstanding incidents that are before them. That's not
going to resolve itself overnight. In the meantime you have people..I
mean, there are other incidents that haven't even been reported in the
paper. We had a Front Street m'erchant, who was stoned in front of his
store. We had another First Street resident, who was stoned on his
residential property. We have a North Street resident, who was confronted
by a gang of youths, who overturned a lawn ornament on his property, :and
when he confronted them they started threatening him. He called the Police.
The Police responded, and .did nothing. I mean somebody is going to get
hurt. Do we wait until that' happens to act? I mean, I just don't think
that's right. I think that the time has come for Mr. Supervisor to exercise
your authority, and order what's .necessary, which is the presence of at
least, at a' minimum, two marked Southold Town Patrol Cars in the Village of
Greenport at all times, twenty-four hours a day, until we can all look at
each other in the face, and say we feet safe to walk the streets again. I
mean, I've been in Creenport sixteen years. I~m a New Yorker. I grew up in
a transitional neighborhood in Manhattan, and I~m street wise, and my wife
is, too. We started locking our cars. We've started locking our house, which
we've never done since we moved to the village. This is a bad situation.
You've got the ball, sir. You've got to run with it now. We need a
commitment tonight. We need a commitment tonight in the form of Board
action, because there's been a split on this Board. Let's face it. When I
came to you last month, I heard arguments on both sides. We, as Village
residents, need to know that you aqd this Town Board are solidly behind
the guarantee of public safety that we're entitled to in the Village of
Greenport, as residents, ful!-fledged residents, of the Town of Southold, so
i'm asking for a Board action tonight to resolve this question, and instruct
the Poi ice.
SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: I'm sure this Board supports exactly what you
described, the security of the people in Greenport, and the full protection
that every other person in this town deserves and should get, and we'll
take every step we can. Since our meetiog this morning I have spoken to
the Chief, and we will have two patrol people there through tonight. We can
perhaps continue it for some period of time. The split on the Board has
tended to be on questions of hiring. I don't think there's any split on the
Board about the importance of providing proper police protection down there.
DAVID KAPELL: Now, Mr. Supervisor, I beg to differ with you. As I
started out my comments this Board manifested itself on the question of
something so trivial as writing parking tickets, when you've got Traffic
Control Officers all ready on the street. Don't you realize that the message
that, that sends to the Outside world, coupled with this constant talk about
under staffing is that it's open season in Creenport? That's exactly what's
happened. I mean .what more do you need to hear? Do we need to wheel
somebody in here with a bandage around them, or worse, to convince you
that you've got a ~roblem, that we, together, have a problem?. What do you
need?
SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: I think we need to hear the views of other people,
and let us get the futl flavor,.
"DAVID KAPELL: But, again, I just. want to state that what I'm here
asking for tonight, I'm going to let the other people speak their minds, but
what I'm here asking for tonight is a vote of this Board to show the people
of our village, that you're 'committed to maintaining that presence in the
village until such time as we can sit down again, or you can report to us,
that these guys are under arrest, that the system is working, and that
order has been restored in our village. Other than that, sir, I beg to say
that you are shirking your responsibility. I challenge you to put it to a
vote of your Board. Get them behind' you. You need them. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Would anyone else like to address the Board?
BARRY LATNEY: My name is Barry Latney. I live in the incorporated
Village of Greenport, I'm llke Mayor Kapell, I have not prepared a text,
but I, too, am appalled by the increasing crime in Greenport. My
neighborhood, Linnet Street, the Police Officer used to come through once
a week. Now, they come through, maybe, biweekly. Just last week we had a
rash of burglaries in out neighborhood. You know why? Because the
criminals don't even care. -Fhey know that no Police Officer is going to come
down there, so they just go right through the whole community, and take
what ever they want. You know why they're taking what they want? Because
they are drug addicts, and criminals, and they don't care, and until we get
the Police Department there to take' them off the streets, put them where
they belong, they're going to continue to do it. Make no mistake about it,
these criminals are not only blacks. They're whites. They're Puerto Rican.
They're everything, and everybody, and unti the Police Department comes
down, and shows their presence they're going to stay there.
SUPERVISOR WICKHAM:. That~k you.
CHRISTINE HASCOAT: Supervisor Wickham, Town Board members, I'm
Christine Hascoat. I have a business in Southold, and my son, who is
fourteen started a business in Greenport this year with another fourteen
year old, and I'm very proud 'of him. His store was one of the stores, that
were burglarized. It was broken into inside Victorian Village, and what
happened in this case was a rock was thrown on the outside locked dc~ors,
then the burglars entered, and kicked in the door to his business, and
quite a lot was stolen. The crime was reported. We were away at the ~ime.
He was with me. We had taken my daughter to school, and didn't find out
until we returned. I suppose in Close I ramble and forget part of my
question, it's what concerns me, that 1 would llke to know what police
procedure really is? if it can be.detailed for me it would be reassuring.
When we returned home I found out the Police report had been filed.
Somehow our home numbers were not taken. The other boy's and ours, so
that there was absolutely no follow-up. I followed u.p. with calls, becat~se I
felt that perhaps because they were kids the situation wasn't taken Jvery
seriously, and I have to tell you, maybe my perception may be wrong, but
it was reinforced that it wasn't being taken seriously. I called two or
three times, and each time I had the sense that I was reviewing what I knew
for the person at the other end of the phone. That's one th~ng that
concerns me. Another is that the boys know who did it. In Greenport word
gets around. The kids who had hung out in the store all summer, and this
was not only a exercise ~in capitalism 'but, also, some work oriented..my son
and his partner wanted a place where kids could hang out, so they wouldn't
be kicked out, or asked to move on. So, they knew everyone, who might be
pos'slbility, and their suspicions were confirmed by other kids, and the
items that were stolen were seen on kids, that hadn't purchased them. A
pair of roller blades were seen on one of the kids that were a suspect. My
son ran after him, didn,t get into a fight, let him go off. It's clear, and
they reported who the suspects, or the perpetrators are. I don't think
they've been picked up. I could be wrong. I don't think they've been
questioned by the Police. So, that's another disturbing thing to me. We
stopped a Police car in town. He wante~ to know if anyone had been picked
up, and to me this is the most disturbing part. The Policeman in the car,
first of ali had all the other robberies chronicled in front of him, didn't
know about my son. So, I Went over it again~ He showed me a mug shot of
an individual, that had been recently released from jail, who the Polite
suspect spearhead for whatever is going on. He first made a comment,
frankly, I didn't think anybody made ..anymore, which is that they all look
alike, and I apologize for that statement coming from me. It was disgusting
to me, totally disgusting, and then from a pragmatic point of view, since
two of these suspects my son named are black, he said if all the blacks
looked exactly alike to him, how in the world was he going to pick up the
boys who were named? So, that!s the end. I won't ramble on anymore. I
would just like to know what Police procedure is? What the follow-up is? Why
the kids can't be picked up? Maybe if I understood I would be in a better
place. Thanks.
SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Yes', sir?
HARVEY STRANGE: Supervisor Wickham, the Board, my name is Harvey
Strange on the corner of North and Third in the Village of Greenport, a
resident. I relate to what Mayor Kapell is talking about, because the
middle of August I was out in my yard doing a little odds and ends, and
one of the residents east of North Street came down and approached me. He
was telling me that they were burglarized at their place, d~d I hear
anything? ~ told him, no. I said; what happened to you up at the other
end of North Street? He told me that they wrecked his place, and turned
over his flower pots, and did all this. So, I told him, I said, the best
thing you can do do is go down there, and see Mayor Kapell about it.
Now, I can relate to that, about the troubles around the Village of
Greenport. But, like they were saying, one thing they need to do is start
that curfew going on down there. Maybe that will start breaking up a lot of
this vandalism. Another thing what they need to do is have a sub-station
down there. Maybe you could have two officers down there at all times,
riding up and down the street, because i know I called about different
~ncidents. So, maybe they c~n't be in two place at one time, that's true.
So, i says, something got to be done about this. Now, it's true elderly
people are scared, and another thing about it, like you say, they park their
car to go into their, try to go into their house, and then they're
approached by a group of men. Another thing how long they going to keep
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up with this? Now, if something don't get done, there's going to be another
Cooperstown in Greenport. I say people are scared. They're not going to
stop picking th~ngs up on their own. You don't want that, or else somebody
is going to get capped, and that's going to be it in the middle of the
street, and then it's going to be blown all out of proportion, and you're
talking about trouble then. There's really going to be a who~e lot of
trouble. So, ~ suggest, llke I said, for the Patrolmen substation, constant
presence in the Village of Greenport. It's truly understaffed. I know quite
a few of the fellows that was trying to get on the Southold Town Police
Force. It's true you need to hire .more, but you say, you hire more,
budget, taxes, but you're going ,pay taxes as long as you're going to pay
taxes. That's my whole thing about it. But, that's just the way it's got to
be. It's true, men are on vacation, men are sick, cuts the staff down, but
you got to start hiring more policeman. People are scared. Eventually
they're not going to get out of their cars for something. Somebody
approaches them, cap, and that's going to be it, and then all Hell going to
break loose.
SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Thank you.
GEORGE .CAPON: George Capon, Greenport, 509 Seventh Street. What Mayor
Kapell said is 100% right about Greenport, but it all started back with
the old police department. My heroes, the Southold Town Board never went
and hired more of the ex-Greenport Police Department. We have our own
Police Department in $outhold Town. Our policeman, some of them are
wo'rking twenty-four straight hours shifts, is that right or wrong? Would
you check on it? I talked to two policeman now, who said they had worked
twenty-four straight hours without going off.
SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Sixteen. Yes.
GEORGE CAPON: Twenty-four he told me, and sixteen. One worked sixteen,
and the other worked twenty-four. Even sixteen straight hours is too
much. If one of the men had an accident, fell asleep, or something, on the
beat, it would be paid. I think right now the Town Board should go ahead,
and hire Mr. Heins, and Mr. Ryan, right tonight. If they have to have a
special hearing, go ahead, hire these policemen, because you have hot
enough policemen in Southold Town to take care of what the Village want,
and to take care of what Southold Town has. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Thank you, George. Anyone else on the right side?
ROY STANDISH: My name is Roy Standish. I live in the Village of
Greenport, and I am, I'believe one of the victims that was victimized over
the weekend, and I'll tell you, it's a terrible feeling, because it seems
like your personal space has been violated. You know, if you can't conduct
a business in Greenport without the fear: of being burglarized all the time.
My wife is even fearful 'of walking.out of the shop in the nighttime, because
of the youths 'on the corner. I feel that there should be something done,
and I concur with Mayor Kapell, and the others that have been up here,
and I llke his idea about a substation being put down there, where their
presence is made of the police officers being there. I just want to tell you
that it's a terrible feeling to be robbed, and when people just walk in
there, and take the property that you worked hard at a business, that you
try to build up. It's ridiculous ,in plain English. I just urge you to try
to do something to rectify the problem.
HERB SCHMIDT: My name is Herb Schmidt, Oyster Point Condominiums in
Greenport. We've numerous incidents over the last three or four weeks at
Oyster Point. One of them was rock throwing at the condominiums. The
Police were called, and 'when the Police arrived we were told there was
nothing we could do about it, they were only children throwing rocks. Our
marina was broken into numerous times. We call the Police numerous times.
The Police write it down. Nothing ever happens. My neighbors alerted me
'that there was a break in the marina five days ago. I apprehended the
people, who broke into the marina. I put them against a wall. They were
about sixteen to eighteen yea'rs old. There was two of them, and ~ advised
them if
they come back, I'm going to give them grief. They never came back. Not
everyone can do this, and I'm well aware of it. Over the weekend our
parking lot, automobiles were broken into. They had a field day. We called
the Police. They wrote it down, and nothing happened. My point is, it's not
that difficult, as many people reiterated here, Lo find the people that are
doing it in Greenport'. It's a small town. It's a square mile. They're on the
streets. I see them. Where is the Police Force? The people are very upset.
Please, help us. Thank you.
EVERETT HOLLAND: My name is Everett Holland. i live in Greenport.
live on the corner of Second and Center Street, which is always, in the
seven years I lived in Oreenport, sort of a very difficult hot bed. I have a
lot of vandalism over the years, and my house is now totally wired for
everything, but sonar. But, nevertheless I still have problems with
vandalism. When you first went on as our Police Force, in that area,
because we are known with problems with drugs, and vandals, and other
things. We saw a great deal of your police cars on an on-going basis day
and night, and it went underground, or went somewhere. I don't care. I
didn't see it, nor was I frightened by it, but over the summer ~ have had
the misfortune of being ill, and spending the bulk of my evenings dealing
with a great deal of pain, and I'm awake most of the night. During that
time, I sit in my living room in the dark, and watch everything under the
sun going on in front, drugs being sold on the street, to hot-Fodders
going down the street like a bat out of Hell, spinning around in the
intersection there, which is a nice size, to see how far they can swerve
around, and then peel off towards South Street, and squeal around the
corner. It's ongoing. Music, I have a neighbor next door, at one point had
a party with speakers as tall as me. House directly in back of me had
party at the same time with speakers as tall as me. Three houses down on
Center Street, another party that same weekend, speakers as tall as me,
except four. Ail of them played different tunes at the same time. Granted
the music was not to my liking, and I feel that in so many ways another
individual has to realize that they have a right to their music, their llfe
style, but they do not have a right inflict that upon me. The same way goes
for me. I do not have a right to inflict my: music, my taste, on another
individual, but, because we live in a very small close confined area, -we
must learn to cooperate, and coexist. When I call the police on all these
different occasions, I have been given , well, there's nothing we can do.
I've, also had rocks thrown at my house, my car has been broken into. I
have a beat-up old car. It's not worth anything, There's nothing to steal. I
don't bother to lock it,-because it's a pain in the ass to lock it, because
it doesn't make any difference. So, what do they do? They bust the windows
because it's fun. They like to hear the noise. It is an ongoing problem
with some of these things, that are very small. When you do not deal with
the small items, that goes to parking, walking .in the middle of the street,
five kids. It's a very common, thing in Greenport to drive down the street,
and five kids, or six kids are walking down the street. They refuse to
move. When you try to get them to move, they beat on your car. I don't
care if you're Arnold Schwartznager, you're going to be threatened by
this. It is a scary situation. When you do not deal with these little, tiny
issues, as in create a police force, what happens is that they feel there is
nothing that they can be touched by, and they run carte blanche. This is
what we're having. They said mis'ery likes company. I've been dealing with
this for seven years, but my neighbors and friends on Bay Avenue, and
Sixth Street, have not been, and I want to tell right now, ! do not take any
great pleasure in my friends, and neighbors, in other parts of the area,
that have not had a problem in the seven years, that are now having a
problem. It just goes that. it is growing, and i:t is becoming a very bad
cankerous sore, that is about erupt. Please, deal with it as soon as
possible before it becomes dangerous. Thank you.
PETER HARRIS: My name is Peter Harris from Oreenport. Sitting here this
afternoon, trying to take everything into consideration. However, the
Village of Greenport had a referendum, and I'd like to know how the people,
that went down in that referendum to safe their police department, how they
feel? You're taking a lot of 15runt up there today. I think the wrong people
are taking the brunt. We made a big splash in the news. We did away With
the police department. We saved money. We put a few dollars back in our
pockets. Buts did we really save? Do you honestly believe that there was no
crime at the time of the abolishment of the Greenport Police Department?
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Come on, people. Wake up. It was there, but it was covered up, because
they didn't want people to know that there was crime out there. We can get
by with just a few police officers from the Town of Southold. Well, now,
it's come back to bite you in the bun. It's a shame, and I'd like to know
how many of these people, and honestly, I feel sorry for them., but, how
many of the people that have been mugged, broken into, how many of those
people voted to abolish the police department? That's all I have to say.
HUGH PRESTWOOD: My name is Hugh Prestwood in Greenport. I
happen to think first of all, that the problem Creenport is having now has
nothing to do with which police force was in. I saw these problems coming a
couple of years ago, and to me they would be here no matter who was. But,
we definitely need more police right now. I feel like, that there's a
certain point in which things get in a community bad enough to where the
people who are law abiding begin to want to get out, and I really, for the
first time this summer, I started feeling like Greenport is right just
r. eachlng that point. People who I talk to, homeowners are seriously talking
about getting out of here. I want to fight for Creenport. I just put a lot
of money into my house, but i feel we have a deadly serious situation here,
and we have got to make this community look like it's a lawful community. I
think that starts with cracking down on cars driving around with booming
radios, or any of this kind of seeming llke little behavior. I think all
lawfulness starts with that stuff. Thank you.
BILL SWISKEY: Peter got up here, and said something about the
abolishment of Greenport Police. Now, I voted against that, and I said at
the time, but the outsiders decided to come in, probably six hundred of
them, and did away with them. Greenport Police, believe me, was very
efficient, whether anyone else cares to admit it. If they really knew what
went on, they'd be surprised, but that's all in the past now, Mr. Wickham,
and I look up here, and I see you and the Councilmen, and the
Councilwomen, and they are all hike this. Well, Mr. Wickham, somebody is
going to get hurt. Maybe it will be an old woman, like Mrs. Hussie.
You're talking about hiring two officers for a town that's forty or sixty
square miles? That'S just not going to cut it anymore. You need at least
eight to ten more officers, and you need them now, because the people that
are coming to Greenport are also coming to Mattituck. There are serious
problems in Mattituck. There's a bat fight in Orient. These people are
drifting out here from the west, and .you can laugh about it, but have you
ever seen an old woman, that's busted up, or cut up by one of these
punks? Tha:t's not funi~y, and you people had better start taking it
seriously, and you :~ need at least eight to ten more officers. So, do
something about it now.
SUPERVISOR W CKHAM. Anyone else in the center section llke to address
the Board?
LiNDA GORDON: Linda Gordon. My husband and I opened a business two
months ago in Greenport, and we bought a house two years ago in Orient,
and over the course of the two years tried to find a way to get out here all
the time from Manhattan. We lived there for twenty years, and so we
discovered a spot in Greenport, i~nd over the course of the month that we
were building it, and putting it together, my husband had been confronted
by youths; and it was name calling at that time. A couple of weeks ago, it
was stone throwing, and he confronted them, and they realized, oh, it's the
man with the store. I personally think it was even worse, because that's
when they stopped, and thought it was someone who didn't live in town. So,
what does that do for people who come in, and visit out area? Then after he
confronted them, he turned around, and was hit again. Down the block he
got into a police car, and they came to the front of our store, and nothing
was done, and he was pointing out the young man, one of the young men.
There was a woman who worked in the town, who said the other young men
had gone down the alley. Nothing was done. They weren't pursued, and he
called my husband a name. Therefore, my husband came into the store,
locked the door, called the police, and had another police officer come. We
stayed in the building, and the police officer came to the window to call
out, and as I went to the window he turned to his right to laugh and carry
on with whomever, whether it be the people who were throwing the stones,
the other police officer, or the merchant next door. When we started our
business, .we decided that we would be open late, because there were a lot
of people, who wanted to eat after, say, eight, nine o'clock. So, we opened
until midnight, and we had a lot of people that would come in. The following
days after that the kids would hang out front in groups of five or more,
and they just hung out there, and then the merchant next door closed,
whether it be nine o'clock, ten o'clock, whatever it was, we locked our
doors. Then we would take a taxi home, because we felt that it was better
to have that, than to get into our own car when no one was around. At
least someone would be there, so that we could leave the store. There was
the one time, that we couldn't leave the door, because there was a bunch of
them hanging around the front door, carrying on, joking, waving into the
store, and we stayed away from the ..front of the store, and if the cab had
pulled away we were ready to call another cab, but we weren't going to take
the chance. In the past week it has stopped, but we close early. We stay in
the store to finish cleaning up, and we have many of our customers, that
where we have built a clientele, that have tried to come in our store, who
we've had to turn away. My husban~t, at that point, when it happened said,
we're closing, we're leaving. We've invested a lot of time, and a lot of
money, and we'll stick it out for awhile, but it will all depend on what
happens to the' streets of Greenport, because we can pack up, and move
back to New York, where I feel we'll be safe.
SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Anyone else in the audience like to address the
Board on the matter Of Greenport?
HARVEY STRANGE: Harvey Strange on the corner of North and Third,
resident. I don't want to cut nobody out, but I want to tell you something.
All you people that are talking about> you're going to sell out, and get out
of Greenport, and this and that, you going to run from the issue. Why run
from it? Stay there and fight. That's what we can do. If you run out of the
Village of Greenport, you go up the island, look at Riverhead. They're
catching it up there. Move up to the island, there's more. When you get in
the city, it's worse yet. I lived in the city for four or five years on the
corner of Sty, Atlantic Avenue, so I know what it is. You can't tell what it
is in Brooklyn, New York. I know what it is. This is not the only
place..anywhere you go you have crime, so it's nothing that's safe nowhere.
As long as you keep your spirit up, and give it into the hands of the Lord,
you'll make it somehow. But you go to keep good spirited faith u~p.
Anywhere you go in this United States there's always going to be a little
Greenport, but it may be worse yet; Then what you are going to do, keep
going, and going? How far can you go? Then leave all together for another
country. But this is your home here. Why? Like I said, it going be this all
the time, but it's not as bad 'when you go some places. True, people have
been victimized, it's true. Has anybody been killed yet? No, thank God, it's
true, no, not yet. But anywhere you go is going to be rough, so at least
we have it good for awhile here, until the Village of Greenport and Southold
Town get together, and hire more policeman.
SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Let me just respond. Look, we've heard from
everybody. We've heard from the Mayor at considerable length. I would like
to give the Town Board an oppor, tunity to address the serious issues, that
have been raised.
DAVID KAPELL: Mr. Supervisor, I'm sorry. I don't come down here very
often. I'm here on a matter of utmost importance. (tape change) I think you
should stay right on track. I don't think you should be deterred for a
second, and I support you. But, you have another alternative. You have
the alternative of hiring part-time police officers. The Civi] S~rvlce llst
is long with officers that are qualified, that have graduated from the
Suffolk County Police Academy. They are available to you for part-time
service. Now, I grant you, there is a prohibition in your P.B.A. contract,
that precludes it. So what? What you have here is to balance a contractual
obligation with the P.B.A. against public safety in the Village of
Greenport. What's the worse that's going to happen? The P.B.A. will file a
grievance? If the P.B.A. chooses to come out against the delivery of public
safety in the Village of Greenport so be it. That would be an irate to say
the least. But I think this Board has an obligation to make appointments to
fill this docket that everybo.dy's referred to, and I think you have a very
clear economlcally efficient way to do, and you can do it in a short time.
LasUy, I just want to sa,/ that what we're trying to do in Greenport, we're
going to draw a line in the sand against the incursion of urban crime that
besets all of America. We know this is not unique to Greenport. We know it's
not unique to Greenport even within Southold Town. But, we'r.e not going to
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have in Greenport. The fact that the officers now patrolling the village
wear Southold Town uniforms, so what? What difference does it make
whether they carry a Southold To~n badge, a Oreenport badge, a New York
State Police badge, Suffolk County?. Who ever can get the job done. You
folks can do it, if you put your minds to it, and make a commitment to it,
and we ask you do that, and do it tonight.
SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: I'd llke to address some of the Issues, A lot of
them have to do with the role of Supervisor. I can't speak for the rest o[
the Board, although i'm sure there.'are lots of areas where there is
support across the issue on the Board'. I'd like to begin by saying, that
when the question of '~bolisi~lng the Police Department first came up tn
Greenport well over a year ago, I essentially said, I think the Town of
South01d can do the job of providing security to the people of Oreenport.
I didn't encourage it, but if that step was taken, the Town of Southold
will be ready to fill that slot, and I think we have been ready. I think
we have done a satisfactory job, and I think the ]ob has met wltt~ the
approval of the residents of Greenport until about the last ten drays. In
fact, the comments and the general level of reaction that I~ve gotten,
since we took on that job last November, has generally been posttlve,
until about a week or ten days ago. So, that's the context, or the
background. ThaUs not to say things are perfect. That's not to say there
aren't still serious problems, that need to be dealt with, but the
comments I got were, gee, there's a lot more Police Officers patrolling
the ,streets of Oreenport that we used to see, of-, gee, the policemen are
actually trying to be helpful, and We see them more often, and they seem
to be dealing with the problems effectiveiy. So, that was a sense, and I
use the past tense, was a reassuring sense up until the last week or ten
days. The last week or .ten days have changed that. We do have a crisis
in Greenport. I don't think there's any question about it. There's clearly
a tremendous Jncre'ase in serious crime, burglary, and robberies. The
Mayor first brought it to my attention last week. After that, when he
first brought it to my attentlm~ the first thing I did was to call up the
State Police, and the ,State Police has dedicated a group of people to be
down in the Village every night, since last Friday night when we called
them. They have been down there. They t~ave three men,, and two-
vehicles, on Friday night. They have had roving people on Saturday, and
Sunday, and Mend:ay nights, since that time. So, there has been that step
taken that. augments the security in tl~e Village. There have been other
thh~gs that ~e've done, We have added plain clothes policeman to
Creenport, not around tl~e clock, and not when our schedules were
stretched tight. But, frequently we~ve had pairs of two Police Officers
without uniform to try to catch these perpetrators. Part of the problem
that l've heard from you,tonlght-ls that the~e guys tend to run down the
alleys, and they escape, and having escaped they're at large again. We
need to catch these guys, and bring them to justice. Tt~at's one of the
elements of enforcement that the Town does, Having people in marked
patrol cars patrolling the town do~; glve a sense of security, and it is
more than a sense. It's important to the security of the village, but we
also need to fhnd out who these guys are, and that's what we're trying to
do, and we're allocating some manpower to do that. On the question of
sectoriai assignments of the police officers, as you all know we have a
sector, well, maybe not we all know, the basic assignment in that part of
the town is one sector that includes Orient, East Marten, and Creenport.
In the last week, since this problem has developed, that person has spent
essentially all of his time |n (]reenport. In addition, when we have enough
officers, that we can assign, any additional officer we will assign, we
are assigning, to the Village of C~reenport, Tonight there will be the two
Police Officers that the' Mayor requested, and we have, also, been
requested. When the Mayor came to my office on Friday, and he sa~d, gee,
we need more support, we need more patrol presence. He chat-acter~zed
that .... me...today, when, her described that...myself as saying, I'm sorry
we can't properly 10ok after the welfare, and the-security of Oreenport.
But that really wasn't what I said. ! said, we will provide the Police
protection in Creenport, but for the next two days during the Labor Day
weekend, we would not be able to augment or increase beyond what we
had scheduled for Creenport. 'We didn't have the capacity on what Js the
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busiest weekend of the entire year to add acJditional people to Greenport
for those two days. We didn't have it, because as somebody said already
this afternoon, we already have holes to fill in our Police schedule. We
had to have two men do double shifts. Double shifts means after finishing
an eight hour shift, they had to do immediately another eight hour shift.
That was a fact of life for about two days in the scheduling llfe of our
Police Department. Fortunately, we're through that now. But even then,
even with those double shifts, we had two patrol officers in Oreenport
most of that nighttime period of the nights of this past weekend. I know
we did, because I personally spent tv'o, three and four hours of those
nights reviewing what our Police Officers were doing. As a matter of fact
I didn't see it happen, but i was ~igh~ within one block of the two
robberies, that were described tonight, that Mrs. Brett, and Mrs.
Tumlnello, one at Bay Avenue, and one at the ATM at the North Fork
Bank, and I could see, listening to the police radio, our Police responded
in seconds, not minutes. They were quick. Within minutes we had not only
twb Police Officers, and the Sergeant, who is a roaming Sergeant
throughout the town. Within several more minutes we had a Detective,
four uniformed Police Officers on the scene. Now, that's a quick response.
The problem with the respond is, that it is not a deterrent to these
roaming groups of people, who are out there, and it's a response not a
way of trying to keep it from happening in the first place. The way to do
that is, to place more marked patrol vehicles with officers in them,
actually patrolling the back roads,'and the darker alleys of Oreenport.
This we can do. We have asked the Chief to do it. They are doing it, and
I thing you will see, beginning today, a greater attention to the patrol
duties out of the mainstream, out of Main Street, and Front Street, but
into the darker, and the smaller parts of the Village of Oreenport. I want
to just comment, that the commitment that I~¥e made to the people in the
village is to provide equal protection to the Village, equal to that, that
we're providing any~vhere else in the town. It's a difficult balancing act,
because we do have the 'whole town to look after. There is no question of
a second class status for Creenport. Greenport is getting, if anything a
disproportionate share of the resources of the town. Last night, we had
two other incidents in the town. One was an assault out in Orient, and
one was a fight and melee in Mattituck in front of the AF, P station, and
somebody went to the hospital. Thank goodness, we don't have people yet
being hospitalized in Greenp0rt, and if the Police Department of Southoid
Town has anything to do about it, we won't have that. But, what ~'m
trying to describe is a responsibility that we have in the Town of
Southold throughout the whole town, and our job, my job, is to provide
equal protection under the law throughout the whole town. if there ~s a
particular problem, as there clearly is in 6reenport, we will mass our
available resources in Oreenport, and we are doing that, and now, that
the .Labor Day weekend is past, we can do it much more readily, and to a
greater extent. There are s. everal' steps that we talked about this
morning, when I attended the Oreenport meeting. I'll just describe them
very briefly. We can ask our 'Pollce Officers to spend less tlme
conversing with each other, and more time actually patrolling the streets.
That's the request that I've heard, not only in Oreenport, but elsewhere
in the town. We can place .an additional sector more readily, and easily,
now that the Labor Day crunch is past. We can continue to engage the
New York State Police to have their people out there. I believe that the
Town of Southold has the available manpower resources, right now, by
judicial scheduling by getting our officers out on the streets to
adequately look after the security needs of Greenport, and the rest of the
town. It isn't easy. it does call for considerable overtime, but I think
we can do it, and I think we will be doing it. I look forward to
continuing to be in conversation with the Mayor, and with you, as to your
experience, and where you feel that needs need to be met, where they
may not be inet. We can engage on those things. There's lots more I could
say, but I'd like to turn it over, and invite any other member, who would
like to address the comments that we just heard.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: I'd lire to make just a couple of points, some
of which the Supervisor has touched on a bit. I spoke to Dave towards the
end of last week, when I became aware that there was problem. In my
business you run into some incidents, and I've run into an incident. One of
the women, that talked about robbing a store, and when I talked to Dave,
and unfortunately I was leaving the next day, and so I called the Chief,
and asked him what was going on, and he told me, that there was a
problem, that they had scheduled a couple of unmarked cars to do some
stake-outs, and they thought they could handle it on that basis.
Apparently, they could not, because .Labor Day weekend created a lot more
problems. That has concerned you. it concerns me. I'm fairly certain, that
it has concerned the rest of the Town Board, and I don't think your
concerns will go unattended, but I would like to point out a couple of
things. First of all, up until this period of time, I have been very pleased
with what had been going on in Greenport over the last six months to a
year. I'd seen tremendous improvement in the spirit of the community, in
the prosperity of the community, 'if you will, the number of people coming
there, the people that were promoting it. It went from a couple of years
ago, when you were basically calling in Federal help, and State Poiicer and
having real problems. These problems are not imaginary. This is not the
first time. it happened. It's. probably very depressing. We are coming off a
long period of time, where we've been very optimistic about the village. I
recall a summer ago, some people' that were assaulted. There was a killing
not too long ago, of course that was just outside the village. There have
been lots of problems. Some of the incidents you mentioned have not been in
the village. They have been just outside the village. It's difficult to
separate, and it shouldn't have to be separated. My feeling is let's not let
this two week period destroy what has happened. I. mean, we'll make a
commitment to help focus police resources. We've got to move people along.
Part of the problem that I'¥e noticed is there have been groups of peopte on
the street> that have to be moved along. We have to become better managers
of the Police Department. We can't take anything for granted. The way that
the police department was run twenty years ago, can't .be run like that. Our
predominate focus for the summer months, probably can't be traffic control.
We're going to have to focus on the hot spots, whether it be Mattituck,
Greenport or wherever, we're going to have to create a system where we're
more affectJve. Whether we'll solve the whole problem now, I don't kno~
but I think we can do a better job, than we've done so far, especi~JJy these
"periods. You know, Labor Day, Memorial Day, Fourth of July, those are
times When we're gding t° be stretched. We have twenty-some men. If we
have to regulate when vacations are..one of problems we have [s not so
much, that we just don't have the men. We have men that are sick. We have
men that take vacationsf when they want, and we just have to manage the
force. I'm' not gqing to ~npune the management we have now, It's been done
[hat way :for a long time in Southold Town. I just think we have to work
with them ~to develop more creative 'ways, to create presence, and to attack
the problems we have. That's what I'd like to do. I mean~ the village has
options, too. Not 'too long ago you did have a police force. ~ have to
disagree :with someone Said you need eight men on duty. The Chief said that
also. We aJready have a Chief. We don't need a Chi~ef~ we a[ready have
Officers. We don't need officers, but we do need affective management of the
men we have, and I ithink we can do a better job. If you look back most of
SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Any other Board members like to address these
issues? If. having'two marked cars on the road in Greenport is the criteria,
that we ~'i~! have' tonight, and I think we'll have it for some period in
time, bett~r management; and getting through the Labor Day weekend, when
per'sonnel .is the scarcest. Is there any other comment, that people want to
make o~ the Greenport Police issue? Yes, sir?
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TOM MONSELL: My name is Tom Monsell. I live in Greenport. it seems
to me, that most of these problems you just d~scussed really deal with
youth, really deal with kids. Almost all of these crimes are crimes done by
young people. I would say young men, and as a teacher, I would say that,
you know, you're letting a gang mentality take over. Part of the problem
here is the core problem to me is the social welfare system, that has
unfortunately lumped most of this in Greenport. If'some of these kids were
separate, kids were in other areas, the gang mentality could not take over.
But, I think, a gang mentality, since they don't see a police force, or as
frequently as they did the past, has. taken over in their minds, and that's
what we're all suffering from. Thank you.
BARRY LATNEY: Barry Latney, again. I just want to say that two
more. police cars is a beginning. It's not going to eliminate the problem,
and you will not eliminate the problem until you get the criminals off the
streets, and until they see that you're serious about getting them off the
streets, the crime 'is just going to continue. We need to get them off the
streets.
SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: We're working on that. Are there any other
comments, that other people in the audience would llke to make to the Board
tonight? We've had a very intensive discussion. I'm not sure how much more
the Board could absorb at this stage.
BILL SWISKEY: It still comes down to, you talk about management, you
talk about manpower. A man in a uniform in a car is a police presence.
Somebody to chase somebody down the alley. Management doesn't do that.
You eliminated eight to nine men, and now, you're going to rob Mattltuck,
which is going to have problems, to control Greenport? You need those
seven, eight, nine more men. You have a million dollars in the yellow bag
fund. Dig into it, 'and hire some officers.
SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Thank you for the view, Any other points, or do i
hear a motion for adjournment? We've had a lengthy discussion about
Greenport matters. It's eclipsed other areas of interest, that people may
have. Would anyone else like to address the Board on other topics today?
JEAN YEDLOUTSHNIG: Mr. Wickham, and Town Board members, I
empathize with you, because ! know you've had a long day. However, i'm
going to make my comments brief. Today when I attended the Southold Town
Board Work Session, Mr. Townsend stated that he thinks, that you need
more input from community members regarding the TDR Program. Correct
me if I'm wrong. I agree with h'im 100%, however, how do you qualify a
person, as an expert. My definition of an expert if a person who is very
skillfUl, or highly trained, and informed in some special field. I
understand that you now have a revised, quote, guest llst, of persons who
wil be invited to a special meeting. Please, correct me if i'm wrong again,
but to my knowledge there is not o.ne property owner's name on that llst.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: My I respond? If you recall, I brought
together a, you know,, a revised letter sent out, that reflected the minority
view, that integrated the minority. I think it emphasized further the
tentative nature of this report. On the back there was some names, i'd
asked that they basically be kept in-house, until we get a chance to review.
But, on the back there were some names that one person in the Plann|ng
Department put together. That is not the list. So, don't be worrying about
that. Also, I do want some experts there, but I want interested people, too.
It's not supposed to be just experts. It's supposed to be something..for
instance, you're a member of a association, or you llve on a block, or you
hear something. I want somebody from the areas in the hamlet district to
come in and say, look, this is a bad idea. We should look at it alt, or,
yes, it can work on this basis, or give their concerns. My concern is that
before we come up with a program, we put out some feelers, and if it's not
going to work, that's not going to beat our heads against a wall. Let's find
out now. But, it is potentially .an affective tool, and it's a tool where
people may make some sacrifices, but they should not have to great
sacrifices to preserve a larg6 area of open space in this town, to preserve
the feel of what we have now, because the alternative is that we have
development spread out perhaps, but all over Southold Town. So, this is
one tool, and the letter that will go out will say that. This is, also, not
going to be the major public presentation. This is going to be a work group
to see if we can go from a very tentative program to something, that is a
little more defined. Where we can define the receiving areas a little more.
We can define the terms. We can define the level of increased development in
each area, because some of those questions are far from being resolved, so I
want to put everybody's mind at ease. We're not trying to sllp anything by
anybody. We're not trying to restrict this. We're lust trying to do the
thing the right way,
JEAN YEDLOUTSHNIO: With all due respect, I've heard that comment
about ten times from different offices in the Town Clerk's Office, and
different people. I never implied that you were trying to slip the wool over
our eyes. I never meant that to be an' implication. However, I know that the
Board can agree with you, when you're speaking, but what goes on behind
closed doors ~s another matter, and I'm not saying that anyone is deceitful.
l'm just saying that we want to know the truth. Number one, my next
question is that if there are no property owners' names on the llst, do you
feel that we're not knowledgeable enough to make some decisions about..
SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Excuse 'me. I want to'interrupt. There certainly
will be property owners on that list. There will be property owners galore
on that list. I haven't even seen the list. When that list is finished, it
will be full of property owners. That is not a concern.
JEAN YEDLOUTSHNIG: That's wonderful. Reassuring me of that, that's
great. No one has ever said that. We've been told we'll be invited to
meetings.
SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: I kept waiting for Joe to say, and he didn't quite
say it, so I had to break in.
JEAN YEDLOUTSHNIG: You're interjecting, because now we have piece of
mind, that we will be invited.
SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Absolutely.
JEAN YEDLOUTSHNIG: My last comment, I said I would make it brief,
because you've been here since 9:30 this morning. Mr. Wlckham, thls is our
town. You are our leader, and I think that you have to make a concerted
effort in the future to include the community in everything that's going on
in Southold Town, so that they can better informed, and not just hear
things from the grapevine here, and a little here.
SUPERVISOR W[CKHAM: Thank you. I really appreciate that. ~ totally
agree with you. There's nothing more important than to get these views out,
to get everybody's involvement, to get everybody's participation. The reason
that hasn't happened well in the TDR thing yet, is that we really haven't
started it. We haven't really launched it, and the Town Board at it's Work
Session today, again found itself .unable to agree how even it launch this
process. The only thing we did do was to establish a committee to study it,
and give us a report. Now, the report is with us. We haven't been able to
decide, as a Board, how to get citizen input into it, but I can teli you one
thing. As soon as we decide that, as soon as we agree it will be the most
public, the most inclusive effort every made.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: You've been here a couple of meetings now,
and I know you're very concerned about that, and I think that it came
about, because some unfortunate things that went on, maybe in the Planning
Department relative to a development, that you;re related to. I think that
was your concern. I think there were some mistakes made in that there were
some things said, that shouldn't have been said, relative to a TDR
Program. We had no TDR Program. There may never be a TDR Program,
so if anybody was under the impression that we had one in the wings, and
the Planning Department is just waiting to implement it, that's not correct.
i don't even think that was their, or maybe it was their intent, but they
were incorrect if they did that. From the beginning, in terms of my concept
of bringing it out in this initial meeting, which is not the major public
presentation, we're trying ~to get people to have an interest, or an
expertise in property values, and the potential for a Transfer of
Development Rights Program; From the beginning we wanted to have major
input from homeowners association, especially those people that are within
the sending areas, and the receiving areas. Somebody that is not in e~ther
one is not going to be particularly concerned. So, that's what we're looking
at. We're going to try to initially get people from those areas. Now, I know
there's a lot of concerns, but I want to put your mind at ease. You will
have plenty of time to have some input. You know, transfer of development
rights does imply sacrifice. In the words of our fearless leader, Bill
Clinton, a shared sacrifice. The goal is not to create something that is
unbearable, or that's going to change the character of the community, which
is what I said you were afraid of, something that will dramatically change
the character of your community.
JEAN YEDLOUTSHNIG: Overdevelopment, that's what it all boils down to.
Thank you very much.
RON YEDLOUTSHNIG: TDR's again, you were saying that you don't
have too much ~nformatlon, or haven't been doing much. In my short tlme of
investigating the TDR's, which I accidentally came across about a month
ago, we've accumulated several h(Jndred pages of documentation from the
TDR Program. It's been going on for at least eighteen months.
SUPERVISOR WlCKHAM: Eighteen months here in the Town of Southold?
RON YEDLOUTSHNIG: Yes.
JUSTICE EVANS: You mean it's been researched.
RON YEDLOUTSHNIG: We have quite a bit of information. Perhaps maybe
more than you people are knowledgeable about, but there's one statement, or
one document that we were very thankful was written. That was by two
members of the TDR Work Group, which was Ms. Anne Lowry, and Ms.
Lydia Totora. It was extremely well written. It gets to the point, and we,
people that are against the TDR, we hope that the Board members read
this, and absorb what was written in that. We are congratulating those two
ladles very much for writing that. At the last Board meeting, my wife, who
was just up here, she asked some questions regarding Harvest Homes
Estate, and she was wondering why they were advertising half acre lots on
the Harvest Homes Estates Section II. i quote you, Mr. Wickham, stating
you emphatically stated there's absolutely no connection between the TDR
Program, and Harvest Homes Estates, correct?
SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: I don't recall my words, but that sounds like what
] would have said.
RON YEDLOUTSHNIG: The Harvest Homes Estates Section I~, am I
incorrect in saying that they have been suggested as one of the areas
proposed for a pilot project for the TDR?
SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Yes.
RON YEDLOUTSHNIG: Am I incorrect?
SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: I think you are correct. It has been suggested. In
fact, even the Planning Board suggested that, that might be a poss~billty,
and when I heard about that, and after the Board meeting, when you and
others came to see us, I spoke with members of the Planning Board, and of
the Planning Board staff, and I think they have changed that point of view,
and I think they've reflected it to the developer.
RON YEDLOUTSHNIG: Are there other pilot projects?
SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: There are no pilot projects, because there is no
program.
RON YEDLOUTSHNtG: No, but propQsed pilot projects?
SUPERVISOR W[CKHAM: Not even proposed.
RON YEDLOUTSHNIG: Not Adkerly Pond Road has been been proposed?
SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: I'm not aware of anything. But, the point that I
want to make is, I don't see how can hold a project as a potential TDR
Program, when there is no TDR Program. That's the point I made to the
Planning Board, and the Planning Board accepted that point.
RON YEDLOUTSHNIG: Excuse me, but i think our concern has been that
we only found out about it,. and we now find out this has been going on for
eighteen months, and we have not heard much about it, and we're just very
concerned that we want to make sure that we're well advised on what is
going on.
SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: What the Planning Board did say was, in the
event, that a TDR Program should 90 forward, this is a logical site for a
Transfer Exchange. That actually is not an unreasonable statement, but the
point is that the program hasn't .gone forward, and there is no deals, no
promises, no assurances to that development. It's going to be treated just
like any other development in the town.
RON YEDLOUTSHNiG: I had the opportunity to, also, see this, quote,
guest list. it was interesting to see, that Mr. DeBrava, who owns the
property :in Harvest Homes Estates, Section II, is listed as a home builder,
as well as, quote, potential user of TDR Programs. There's another
gentleman on that, Mr. Chris Biaz, shown as a potential user of TDR
Programs, and it is sort of a coincedence, that they are on that list, and
they are the owners of Harvest Homes Estates, which we consider a pilot
project, and Ackerly Pond Road, which has been considered as a pilot
project. Thank you.
ROBERT BANNON: Supervisor, Board members, my name is Robert
Bannon. I'm a homeowner in the Village of Southold. i read the
Stewardship Task .Force Report when it first came out. i was concerned
about TDR proposals, and that. I read the Working Group's report, and I
read the minority report. I understand that you had scheduled for the next
Town Board meeting, going to put on the agenda this matter for discussion
by the Board, and I applaud that. I would just like you to know, that I feel
that the TDR Program is bad for the Town of Southold, bad for any small
town. The changes of the way the. government is conducted in this town,-it
takes away your power, as our elected officials, to down zone, for instance.
it gives that developers as a matter of right, i'm for development. I don't
think any town can survive without orderly development, but orderly
development is necessary for the proper development of any town, not based
on the private motives of developers. I think the TDR Program is a
windfall, frankly, for farmers, and developers, and i think it's a
disservice to homeowners, and the ordinary citizens of Southold. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Thank you. Since we're on the Transfer of
Development Rights issue, is there anyone else who llke to address the
Board on that issue? The gentleman in the blue shirt?
ROBERT FAIRLIE: My name is Robert Fairlie, and ! llve here in
Southold. You just said there's no commitment been made to this builder for
this Harvest Homes Estates, then how can he advertise half acre plots,
which is one acre zoning. He advertises in the newspapers, it's up west in
newspapers. How can he do that, sir, if he has no commitment?
SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Let me try to explain that. We have in the Town of
Southold subdivisions. When a piece of property is subdivided into parcels
for home lots, if it's more .than ten acres or so, which this subdivision is,
we require clustering. What that means is, that development is zoned as one
acre lots. it's 'zoned as one acre zoning. Clustering means, that we allow
the developer to use half of that area, and put half acre lots, and the
other half remains open. In other words, we focus the development, and
this is a well established planning tool, we focus development in
essentially half of the area on half acre tots, and the developer is not
allowed to build on the remaining half. It's a conserved area in a
subdivision. Consequently, you can have advertised half acre tots in a area,
that's zoned for one acre zoning. But, the catch is, that the guy is not
allowed to develop the-whole thing. He still only gets the, how many acres
is it? Twenty roughly?
3 6 2 SEPTEM.ER
JEAN YEDLOUTSHNIG: Fourteen point nine.
SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Say fifteen acres. At most he should get fourteen
or fifteen homes. I think it's only twelve, because of the roads, and all of
that. Twelve. He can still get those twelve lots, but they are going to be
twelve half acre lots, and then the other half of that area should remain
open. That has nothing to do with TDRs, and that remaining area, that's
being opened is not a football, it is not a TDR reserve just waiting for
some program to happen. It was suggested by the Planning Board that, hey,
if the Town does enact a Transfer of ..Development Rights Program, hey, that
would be a good area for sending, or receiving, or something. That is
speculative, because we don't have a program, and I've asked the Planning
Board not to make those statements in the future. In fact, they've agreed.
ROBERT FAIRLIE: Mr. Supervisor, we'll have to hold you to your word,
that those remaining acres are not going to be TDR. Is that correct?
SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: I can't tell you what course the TDR Program is
going to take. What I can say is, that there are no deals. There's no
promises for it, and right now that development is being treated just like
every other development in Southold Town. If it could happen in any other
development, I suppose it could happen there, so I can't sit here today, and
tell you categorically it could never happen there. This Board might agree,
even with the six of us, mTght agree someday to make it possible, to go
back to an existing subdivision, that has reserved areas in a clustered
subdivision, and say, hey, let's make an area be available for a TDR
Program. But, this Board has not taken that step, and listening to aH of
the comment, ! doubt if it's going to take that step. It would take special
egislation to make it happen. It would also take a vote of this Board by a
majority plus one, that is to say five votes, to break the covenants; and
restrictions, that go with reserved open space. So, I can tell you fr,em a
practical point of view, the likelihood of that happening is virtuaHy nil.
ROBERT FAIRLIE: One other question, then. Automatically he's entitled to
half acre zoning? This is what yog're saying in cluster development.
SUPERVISOR WI.CKHAM: He's entitled to one a. cre zoning, but because of the
clustering prowsion in Southold TOwn, he ~s not on y entitled, but he's
required to place half acre lots on half the area, and keep the other half
free and open. So, he still only gets the total of twelve lots.
ROBERT FARLIE: Thank you.
SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: On the same subject?
MYRA STEGMAN: My name is Myra Stegman, and I live on Oaklawn
Avenue. We discussed this last time about the zoning of that piece of
property. The zoning is one acre zoning. You assured me that the piece
that would be left would left in perpetuity, which to me means forever. At
the same time, when I was at the Planning Board meeting, before they
realized that I was there, I wasn't really there about Oaklawn Avenue,
was there about the TDR, but this came up. In the discussion, among the
members, lead me to believe that they were planning to use this piece ~n the
future, in the event the TDR Program was put into effect. Now, this is
my only concern. Oaklawn Avenue is populated enough. The traffic is
horrendous. There are too many cars per hour that go down that street.
We, also, have a school on that street, and we do not need further
develooment. Now, I agree with the man, who said before, we need
assurances that this is going happen. I don't know how we can go about
getting these assurances, but I'm guarantying you, that we are insisting on
these assurances. We will not tolerate that piece to be overdeveloped. Now,
you're talking about half acre zoning. The man has a plan before the Board,
which was approved by the Planning Board, a sketch plan, and he plans to
put these houses in the fringes using the existing roads. Therefore he
doesn't have to put in any roads. Therefore that piece of property is to
remain, I don't care what is done with it, but it would be nice if the Town
took it, and created a park/ because, we, as citizens deserve open space.
They who choose to come to Southold are the ones that are going to benefit
from the open space, that you're talking about, and they'll ride by, and
say, isn't this pretty? But the people living on Oaklawn Avenue are have
to be considered that they don't deserve open spaces?
SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: On this particular project, I have to just repeat,
there will be open space in that project.
MYRA STEGMAN: I want a guarantee, that will never be built on,
because you told me, in perpetuity, and that means forever.
SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: There will be covenants and restrictions on it
along the lines of the Planning Board, all these assist with any other
development, and ~'m not aware of any developments in this town, where
those covenants and restrictions have been broken. Really this discussion
should be held with the Planning Board. They have responsibility for these
things.
MYRA STEGMAN: I realize that.
are the Supervisor. 'You should
Planning Board does.
I've been to Planning Board, and you
have something to say about what the
SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: i have had something to say, and i'm pleased to
tell you that they have recognized the importance, the sanctity of the open
spaces created as part of the subdivision process, and they have taken
steps to see that, that will be retained.
MYRA STEGMAN: Right'. Now, the other point, I have read all these
papers, I have read all these TDR reports. Within that report it states,
that at the time that you wish, or whoever is in charge, wishes to put it in
this TDR Program, that they can bypass any covenants that exist. Now,
that's another point that I want cleared up. i do not want multiple houses
on that piece of property. Whatever has to be done to assure me, that it's
not going to happen is what I am insisting on. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR WICK.HAM: Any other comments on Transfer of Development
Rights? You've had your chance. Is there anyone else? Would you speak
your name again?
RON YEDLOUTSHNIG: Ron Yedloutshnig from Southold. This property
is somewhat different. The builder, that wants thirteen lots, he opted for
tweive on the outside, which he has for sale. The one in the middle he's
leaving vacant, and we're assuming that it's for one reason, because that
"proposed road for that seven and a half acre building plot in the m~ddle
goes right by my house, so that's why I was wondering why he would only
build on the twelve outside, and leave that center lot for seven and a half
acres. Excuse me, the half acre lots, he's got twelve. Am I assuming that
take care of twelve acres of that fourteen point nine?
SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: .' It's twelve 'half acre lots equals about six acres.
You add little roads, little of this and that, and that's supposed to equal
about half of the total area. The other half is supposed to remain open.
RON YEDLOUTSHNIG: It'S been approved for thirteen lots.
SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: I just don't know the detail on that. Anything else
on this subject? (No response.,) One of our Town Board members has to get
to the Mattituck Airport before 7:00 o'clock. I'm hoping that we can putl
this to a close. Anything else on any other subject, that anyone would like
to bring to the attention of the Board?
PETER HARRIS: Peter Harris, Greenport. I just want to touch on ..I
didn't attend last month's meeting,, but I watched it on television, and
again, tonight, the Mayor of Greenport (tape change.) He asked questions.
He demanded answers. They tried to give answers, and he kept
interrupting. You go to his court, and go interrupt him, and he'll cut you
off just like that. You demand an answer, I'm not answering that. How, in
turn, can Mayor Kapetl come into our court, Town of Southold, demand
things, I want it right now. I want it now. That's the way he is. You can't
always have your cake and eat it, too. Supervisor Wickham, you were on the
phone. You tried to answer Mayor Kapell. You couldn't get in, so you had
to hang up. You couldn't answer his questions, because he wouldn't let you
answer them. Is that a fact, or not?
SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: I know the Mayor is working in the best interests
of Greenport. We're trying to operate in the best interests of Southold.
Greenport is a critically important part of Southold. I assume that our
interests are together. It's our job now to provide security, to provide the
needs of the Village, and we're going to do that.
PETER HARRIS: THe fact of the matter remains, I mean, i'm a
Greenporter true, and true, even though I don't live in the incorporated
village, okay? But, they want their own little separate entity, except when
it's not to their advantage, okay2 They had a great Police Force. They
might have had a problem, but instead trying to solve the problem, just get
rid of the Police Force, okay? That's the way it seems to be going down the
line, okay? We want a carousel. We want sculptures. We want a harbor
front. We want a harbor wharf. That's all well, and good, but the fact of
the matter is, there is crime out there, twenty-four hours a day. i don't
care if you're in Laurel, Orient Point, wherever. It's there. But, you got
to understand, they've got to accept part of the responsibility, too, and
just, whatever little part they want to cut out, well, we'll let the Town
take care of that part.
SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: You've said that much better than I could have.
Mr. Capon, the last word?
GEORGE CAPON: George Capon, Greenport. One thing, as Mr. Kapell said
before, that the Town should treat the Village just like the Town. Why don't
the' Village treat the people that is outside of the Village in the East-West
Water District the same, that the village is. We have to pay more money for
our water and sewer, than what the people in the village does. If they want
everything equal, than we should have it equal.
SUPERVISOR WlCKHAM: Let's go to work on that.
GEORGE CAPON: One other thing; last meeting I asked you about the Town
Board giving something to the Ex-Chief Walden of the Greenport Police
Department. You told me, that the Town Board was represented. Who
represented the Town Board?
SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: I was mistaken in that. I think our Police Chief
"was there. ~ had forgotten. I had not signed the proclamation. It was
prepared, and ~ never got back to the person, that prepared it, and it was
just an oversight.
GEORGE CAPON: I heard, that it was given to you, and you refused to
sign it. is that true, or not? Did you refuse to sign that thing7
SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: That is true.
GEORGE CAPON: Then I think you .should really apologize to Mr. Walden.
SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: I'll give some thought to that. I think we've had a
lengthy night. I really have got to get Louisa to the airport, and ] don't
want to get a speeding ticket on the way. I'd like to hear a motion to
adjourn.
Moved by Justice Evans, seconded 'by Councilwoman Oliva, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board meeting be and hereby is adjourned at
6:60 P.M.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva,
Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski,
Supervisor Wickham.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
Judith T. Terry ~
Southold Town Clerk'