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HomeMy WebLinkAboutRABBIT LANE ASSOCIATIONHENRY P. SMITH, President JOHN M. BREDEMEYER, Vice-Pres. PHILLIP J. GOUBEAUD ALBERT KRUPSKI, JR. ELLEN M. LARSEN BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES TOWN OF SOUTHOLD Town Hall, 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 728 Southold, New York 11971 May 5, 1986 TELEPHONE (516) 765-1892 Mr. Charles Luscher Rabbit Lane Association 19 East Mall Plainview, New York 11803 Re: Bay Avenue, East Marion, New York Dear Mr. Luscher: The following action was taken by the Board of Trustees at their regular meeting held on April 24, 1986 regarding the above captioned matter. Moved by Trustee Smith seconded by Trustee Bredemeyer it was RESOLVED that the Southold Town Trustees WAIVER the need of a Wetland Permit for Charles Luscher on behalf of the Rabbit Lane Association to re-install a 2" diameter water service to be under- ground and under the bottom of the lake, and to Ted Dowd for the installation of four 1" pipes underground and under the bottom of the lake. This waiver is given all in accordance with the "Water System Layout," and D.E.C. Permit issued on November 22, 1985 and subject to the Supplementary Special Conditions and Additional General Conditions of this permit. Very ~ruly yours, __ Board of Town Trustees HPS:ip Attachments cc: Town Board Building Dept. Supt. of Highways Trustees Ted Dowd CAC Mr, A.J. Hoyse file HENRY P. SMITH, President JOHN M. BREDEMEYER. Vice-Pres. PHILLIP J. GOUBEAUD ALBERT KRUPSKI, JR. ELLEN M. LARSEN BOARD OF TOWN TOWN OF $OUTHOLD Yown Hall. 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 728 Southold. New York 11971 TRUSTEES TELEPHONE (516) 765-1892 July 25, 1986 Mr. Charles Luscher Rabbit Lane Association 19 East Mall Plainview, New York 11803 Re: Bay Avenue, East Marion, New York Dear Mr. Luscher: It'has been brought to our attention that there is some debris in the lake by the bridge on Bay Avenue. Please have this area cleaned up at the earliest possible date. If you have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to call this office at the telephone number listed above. Henry P. Smith, President Board of Town Trustees HPS:ip ecl Mr. Frank Heroy Town Board Victor Lessard, Admin., Building Dept. Raymond Jacobs, Superintendent of Highways Ted Dowd ~/ Garry Tabor Trustees file 145 Lakeview Terrace PO Box 357 East Marion, NY 11939 July 21, 1986 The Honorable Frank Murphy, Town Supervisor Southold Town Hall Main Road Southold, NY 11971 Dear Mr. Murphy~ In mid-June, I returned from an extensive automobile trip to the Rockies. Upon my return, your letter of May 23rd was awaiting me. I put it on hold as I wanted to ascertain the sta- tus of the Bay Avenue, East Marion water pipes, electric cables, trenching project. I assume the Town now considers the project complete as the contractor seeded the area on Monday, July 14th, and the Town sweeper went through the next day, Tuesday. There,s a cons~erable amount of debris/containing~long ~o sections 9~ plastic ~ipe, ~rush/ and materia$ dredged f~om tHe~ lake on t~e Town RO~ opposite ~e pumphouse./I~ ~a? bee~ there for six ~6) weeks.~s the clea~.-up t~e responsibility ~f the contra~or or the ~own?.There/is a s~gnwh~h says, "D~MPING- $50 FINE" on the ~ame smde o~ the road to ~he south. / I found your letter to be confdsing as you indicated you are in receipt of my letter of April 22nd. Councilman Penny tel- ephoned on the evening of April 29th in response to my letter of the 29th which was also addressed to you. Councilman Penny mdvised me. in essence,~ that~ 1. t should not expect any answers to the questions posed in my letters of April 22nd and 29th. I should not believe what I read in the papers about the actions of the Town Board and the quotes of elected of- ficials. (Even so, the articles in ~, the Traveler, and Suffolk Times have been interesting, sometimes amus- ing and even pathetic.) I~asmuch as I was not on Village water I would be so in a short time. (You indicated that Mr. Penny knew the area and the people involved. Mr. Penny did not know that we were on well water until I volmnteered the information in our conversation. Protection of well water was the gist of my initial memorandum of March 1st.) I have come to the conclusion that I never had a problem re- lating to the trenching project. The Town has very serious prob- lems. lof3 I have heard that the Town Trustees are concerned with road run-off into the tidal cree~--~n~e to do something about it. The Creeks have tidal action with the resultant flushing so that run-off does not exert its full impact. Marion Lake does not have that benefit. It is suggested that the Town Trustees inspect the run-off into Marion Lake since the trenching pro- ject for which they granted a permit. The drainage on the east side of Bay Avenue, south of Lakeview Terrace, has now been di- verted to the bridge into the lake. This has been se only since the project. For decades, the drainage on that side of the road entered the area near the pumphouse and leached into the soil. Road run-off and silt are now entering directly into the lake. The Town Wetlan--~s Code says something to the effect that silta- tion is not to be the result of a project granted a permit. In a very--~t time siltation will clog the waterway between the two sections of the lake and canoes, rowboats, and wildlife use that waterway. When can we expect action? In addition to the scenic beauty, the lake provides recre- ational boating and freshwater fishing. Most of the fishing is done f~om the east side of the bridge. I suggest that the Town Trustees visually inspect the debris which was placed in the dredged trench. The debris comes so close to the surface that the swans~must climb over it rather than swim through. The debris will be snagging fish hooks and monofilament line will be break- ing off. Monofilament line in the water is a disaster to wild- life:- muskrats, ducks, turtles, swans, geese, herons, egrets, and grebes which use theat area. I can't imagine the Code per- mitting debris to be used as a fill in a trench. Aneighbor was informed that there was no way that a c~ would be permitted on the bridge. Not only did the crane cross, but it was on a transporter. There is no weight limit posted for that bridge. What is the weight limit for th~ bridge? YOu must remember that bridge was built before the big houses on Rabbit LAne. ~hat was the gross weight of the pre-cut lumber and trailer which crossed the bridge to go to Huckleberry Hill?-What was the gross weight of the cement trucks which poured on jobs on Rabbit Lane and Huckleberry Hill? Should the garbage truck which is at the end of its run cross the bridge? Should any of these trucks be permitted to cross the bridge? The EMFD has a policy of net permitting trucks to cross the bridge. In an emergency, there is no doubt of what they would do. The FD doesn't flaunt it~ others do. I suggest the Town inspect the bridge, which is about 60 years old,before there is a serious accident. A representative of the Underwriter's Office alleged that no yellow tracer was placed in the trench with the gas main, the wire cables, and plastic water pipes between Lakeview Terrace and the ~aterfield. Our photo file does not indicate that it has been done. Which Town representative is responsible for inspecting the trench before it is backfilled? 2of3 On my trip West, I spent a considerable amount of time in "missile silo" territory in northeast Colrado, southwest Nebraska, and southeast Wyoming° It is barrens.it is desolate. One can still see the ruts of wagon trains. One may not see another vehicle for hours upon end with the exception of anAir Force patrol. I met a postman whose circuitous route was 93 miles long on gravel and dirt roads to deliver mail to 45 roadside boxes from which one could not see a sign of a house or barn most of the time. As a reminder of civilization, every so often, one would see a sign, XXXXXXXX COUNTY ZONING LAWS CODES STRICTLY ENFORCED For information Call xxx xxxx I had to consult a topographical map to ascertain the state in which the county was located. Were they fooling? Thinking of the Town of Southold~ I called four (4) of those numbers. I told each I was presenting a hypothetical case and to be free to stop the conversation at any time. I had a piece of property but that the water was con~ taminated. I had an option to purchase another less desirable, piece of property ~ mile away with good drinking water. One must be mindful that one may own property, but not have the water and/ or mineral rights thereto. May I trench? What are the rules and regulations? What codes apply? What permits would be needed? Who and how often are inspections.made? There are many buried natural gas lines which interconnect wellfields and buried silo sensors; one.~ust doesn't use a trenching machine or a backhoe at will. In all cases, one person answered all my questions. I was not put on hold or shuffled from one department to another. That person was the spokesman and there was decisivenessf You requested that I formally sign my memorandum of March 1st to identify myself and to assure you that I was serious. I did so; i stood up to be counted. In reciprocity, I am awaiting you, the Town Supervisor, the highest elective post in the Town, for an- swers to my questions not only in this letter, but in the letters of April 22nd and 29th.. May I hear from you in the near future? I am enclosing another copy of the April 29th your file. CeCe letter for Fr nk Heroy Councilman George Penny Henry P~ Smith, President of Town Trustees Victor Lessard, Exec. Adm. of Building Department Ray Jacobs, Superintendent of Highways Mark Middleton, Pres. of Lakeview Terrace Rd. Assoc. HENRY P. SMITH. President JOHN M. BREDEMEYER. Vice-Pres. PHILLIP J. GOUBEAUD ALBERT KRUPSKI. JR. ELLEN M. LARSEN BOARD OF TOWN TI~USTEES TOWN OF SOUTHOLD Town Hall, $3095 Main Road P.O. Box 728 Southold, New York 11971 TELEPHONE (516) 765-1892 May 16, 1986 Mr. Charles Luscher Rabbit Lane Association 19 East Mall Plainview, New York 11803 Re: Bay Avenue, East Marion, New York Dear Mr. Luscher: Please be advised that our letter of May 5, 1986 applies to the water lines for the above captioned pro3ect. Electrical lines are to be installed according to Public Utility standards and specificaticns. The Trustees would recommend that the electrical lines be run overhead across the pond. If you have any questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to call this office at the telephone number listed above. Very truly~_~vou~s,. ~ ~enry P. Smith, President Board of Town Trustees HPS:ip Attachment cc: Trustees Building Dept. Supt. of Highways Ted Dowd CAC Mr. A. J. Moyse Town Board file