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HomeMy WebLinkAboutQUINN, ALICE TRUSTEES John M. Bmdemeyer, IlL President Albert J. Krupski, Jr., Vice President Henry P. Smith John B. Tuthill William G~ Albertson Telephone (516) 765-1892 Fax (516) 765-1823 BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES TOWN OF SOUTHOLD SUPERVISOR SCOTT L. HARRIS Town Hall 53095 Main Road EO. Box 1179 Southold, New York 11971 April 7, 1993 John H. Geideman P.O. Box 416 Southold NY 11971 Re: Alice E. Quinn 118-4-4 Dear Mr. Geideman, After much serious discussion and as a result of our Field Inspection on March 18, 1993, the Trustees considered your request for a groin and conclude that none is needed for this area and that its' benefits would be limited or in fact a very detrimental precedent for the shoreline in this area. The Board did not summarily reject this application but would encourage you to withdraw it voluntarily and we will return your application ~ee without question. Should you wish to proceed, the Board will have to consider your application more formally than the one you submitted and we will need a licensed land survey showing the property at appropriate scale with one foot contours of elevation being required for the entire project area. In addition to the new survey it is possible that this structure would require an impact statement and or engineering study to justify a permit for its construction. Yours truly, J~ohnM.~redemeyer, tlt President, Board of Trustees m /djh cc: CAC Vote of Council: Ayes: All Motion carried. Wetland Application No. 78-8-1 of EDWIN BRANDENBURG to construct a single family dwelling and catwalk has been tabled by the. CAC. The application is incorrect, it does not reflect the proper physical condition of the property. Goose Creek Lane. Southold. Wetland Application No. 52-1-8 of ARUJAN ARSLANYAN to construct approximately 95' of bulkhead, a wooden deck. and replace stairs has been tabled. The application is incomplete. A history of the property and permits is needed 54466 County Ro&d 48. Southold. On a motion by Bruce Loucka, seconded by John Hagerty. it was RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Trustees approval of Wetland Application No, 118-2-14.1 of JOSEPH FLATTERON to remove existing dock. ramp. and float and construct, in same location, a 30' x 4' dock. 3' x 10' ramp and 6' x 30' float. 595 Clearwater Lane. Cutchogue. Vote of Council: Ayes: All Motion carried. On a motion by Bruce Loucka, seconded by John Holzapfel, it was RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Trustees disapproval of Wetland Application No. 118-4-~, of ALICE OUINN to construct a 65' groin to regulate and control beach area sand. The Council recommends disapproval because no need is shown. 7625 Nassau Point Road, Cutchogue. Vote of Council: Ayes: All Motion carried. TRUSTEES John M. Bredemeyer, III, President Henry P. Smith, Vice President Albert I. Kmpski, Ir. John g Bednos!d. Jr. John B. TuthiI1 Telephone (516) 765-1892 Fax (516) 765-1823 BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES ToWN OF soUTHOLD SUPERVISOR SCO/T L. HARRIS Town Hall 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 1179 Southold, New York 11971 COASTAL EROSION MANAGEMENT PERMIT APPLICATION TOWN WETLANDS PERMIT APPLICATION TRUSTEE LANDS PERMIT APPLICATION Office Use Only: ~oastal Erosion Permit Application etland Permit Application rustee Lands Permit Application ~Grandfather Completed Apps. Date: ~Variance Required, -~ Neighbors notifi,ed__~ate: -- SEQRA TvDe UNLI31~ ~ ~%eview~_opt. ~ --~EQRA Determin./date: --Public Hearing/date: Findings: Permit Vote: (Y/N): -Special Conditions: (also see file) Date Application Fee: Application Number; SC~4 al000- f[~ ~ ~-~ Project Name (If Date Prepared: Applicant: Address: Interest: Owner of Property: Subject Property Location: (Provide LILCO Pole locani6n map) Distance to cross Streets THIS IS NOT A PERMIT if nou on Yds. to be excavated: ~%/~ Yds. to be filled: Manner in which material will be removed or deposited: Width of canal, creek or bay fronting property: /~0~ Depth at low tide: Aver. rise in tide: Distance t~ nearest channel: ~-~t Distance project extends beyond similar projects in area: Area zoning: ~ Land area in acres: Is project for private or business use: Intended use of property: Describe known prior operations conducted on premises: Has any prior license or permit been issued to erect~structures, dredge, or deposit fill on said premises: ~z~ Has any license or permit~ever been revoked or suspended by a Governmental Agency: ~g,~ Project Description The project description must also include plans for reclamation of land disturbed during construction of the principle and accessory structures and underground structures (i.e., pipeline and septic system; make additional attachments if necessary). .- Authorization (Where the applicant is//n~th~ owner~h~ ~/~ I residing at (Print-owner of subject property) (Mailing address-phone) do hereby authorize to apply for Coas~o's~~it(s) from the Southold Town ~gnature THIS IS NOT A PERMIT Trustees County of Suffolk ) State of New York ) THEIR AGENT(s) TO INSPECT THE APPLICATION. BEING DULY SWORN DEPOSES m,m AFFIRMS THAT HE/SHE IS THE APPLICANT FOR THE ABOVE DESCRIBED PERMIT(S) AND THAT ALL STATEMENTS CONTAINED HEREIN ARE TRUE TO THE BEST OF HIS/HER KNOWLEDGE AND BELIEF, AND THAT WORK WILL BE DONE IN THE MANNER SET FORTH IN THIS APPLICATION AND AS MAT BE 'APPROVED BY THE SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD OF TRUSTEES. THE APPLICANT AGREES TO HOLE THE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD AND THE TOWN TRUSTEES HARMLESS AND FREE FROM ANY AND ALL DAMAGES AND CLAIMS ARISING UNDER OR BY VIRTUE OF SAID PERMIT(S), IF GRANTED. °- IN COMPLETING THIS APPLICATION, I HEREBY AUTHORIZE THE TRUSTEES, OR REPRESENTATIVE(s), TO ENTER ONTO MY PROPERTY PREMISES IN CONJUNCTION WITH REVIEW OF THIS SWORN TO BEFORE ME THIS SIGNATURE ~TA~Y PUBLIC JOYCE M. WII.KINS Nota~ PuSl~ State of New York No. 4952246, Suffo;k C, ou~y~ Term Expires June 12, I~ Suggested space for location Map THIS IS NOT A PERMIT GAIL S, SHAFFER SECRETARY Of STATE STATE OF NEW YORK DEPARTMENT OFSTATE ALBANY. N.Y. T22~1-0001 July 6. 1993 J.H. Geideman P.O. Box 416 E, Marion. NY 11939-0416 U.S. Army Corps of Engineers/New York District Permit Application #93-02450-L2 Quinn - Proposed Groin Hog Neck Bay. Little Peconic Bay Town of Southold Dear Mr. Geideman: Since we have not received a response to our letter dated April 23, 1993 (copy enclosed) requesting additional information on the above-referenced project, we cannot commence our review of your federal consistency certification. Please be advised that the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers cannot issue a permit for this project unless the Department of State concurs with your consistency certification. A copy of this letter has been sent to the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers. Because of your failure to respond in a timely manner, we are closing the file on your application. Should you desire to reapply at some later date, please submit a new Federal Consistency. Assessment Form (FCAF) and complete maps, site plans, sketches, photos, and description of the proposed project at that time. Please call me at (518) 474:6000 if you have any questions on this matter. Sincerely, William Feldhusen Environmental Analyst Enclosure WF/jtb cc: COE/NY District - Sophie Ettinger NYS DEC/Region 1 - Robert Greene Town of Southold - Valerie Scopaz New York State Department'=of Environmental Conservation Building 40--SUNY, Stony Brook, New York 11790-2356 (516) 444--0365 FAX (516) 444-0373 July J.H. Geideman P.O. Box 416 E. Marion, NY 11939 Re: NYSDEC Permit Application # Alice E. Quinn Thomas C. Jorling TOWN OF SOUTHO[D 1-4738-00748/00001-0 Dear Mr. Geideman: The Department has reviewed the above referenced permit application. The proposal fails to meet a standard for permit issuance (6NYCRR Part 661.9(b)(1)(iii)) in that it is not reasonable and necessary in light to reasonable alternatives. The nearbygroins do not appear to be trapping significant amounts of sand. Beach elevation on the south side was approximately one foot above that on the Leeward side. The beach consists mainly of stones which will not move with normal literal drift. This is why there is little difference between the leeward side and the accretion side of the existing groins. There does not appear to be significant erosion at the site. The need for the structure has not been demonstrated. The tidal wetland maps (photographs taken in 1974) show a beach width of approximately 30' to apparent high water. Current beach width appear to be 25' to apparent high water. A five foot change in approximately 20 years is significantly less than the average rate of erosion in this area. Based on a conversation between our field inspector and the applicant on si~e, it appears that the reasons for the proposal are for usa of the groin as a boat docking structure and to even out the beach. These reasons do not constitute necessity, and this the proposal fails to meet the standard. Should the applicant wish to pursue the applications, the applicant must provide the Town of Southold information the Town has requested regarding this matter. Upon receipt, the Town will determine its interest in assuming Lead Agency status for the State Environmental Quality Review. A Negative Declaration of Significance must be issued, or a Final Environmental impact Statement accepted by the Lead Agency prior to the application being considered complete. - 2 - Upon determination of completeness, the Department will refer the matter to the NYSDEC Office of Hearings for an adjndicatory hearing. The applicant would be responsible for showing that the proposal meets the standards for permit issuance, and pay all hearing costs. The Department will recommend denial. Please notify me in writing as to how the applicant wishes to proceed. If no response is received within 30 days of the date of this letter, the Department will assume the applicant has abandoned the proposal and the application will be withdrawn. Should the applicant choose to pursue the matter after that date, a new application packet, supplemental materials, andfee$ will be required. Very truly yours, Karen A. (Munze) Baker Environmental Analyst I IQ4B/nw cc: A. Quinn Southold Town Trustees GA~L S. SHAfFER SECRETARY Of STATE J.H. Geideman P,O. Box 416 E. Marion. NY 11939-0416 STATE OF NEW YORK DEPARTMENT OF STATE AlbanY. N.Y. 12231-0001 Re: April 23, 1993 F-93-160 U.S. Army Corps of Engineers/NY District Permit App~cation ~93-02450-~ Qm - Proposed Groin Hog Neck Bay, Little Peco~c Bay Tom of Southold Request for Additional ~ormatinn Dear Mr. Geideman: Pursuant to 15 CFR 930.58. the following data and information is necessary to enable the Department of State to adequately assess the coastal zone effects of this proposed project. NYS CMP Policy #17 recognizes both the potential adverse impacts of flooding and erosion upon development and upon natural protective features in the coastal area, as well as the costs of protection against those hazards which structural measures entail. The policy states: "Non-structural measures to minimize damage to natural resources and property, from flooding and erosion Shall be used whenever possible." Please analyse the use of nonstructural measures to minimize damage to natural resources and property at the proposed site from flooding and erosion. We offer for your consideration the alternative of beach nourishment. This would consist of the placement of sand above MHW. Please furnish a copy of the legal basis for the right to place the groin in the proposed location (i.e. proof of ownership of the [and beneath the proposed groin or written permission of the land owner). What is the rate of erosion over the last 30 years? Please provide documentation of changes in the location of MHW ar the site, Please provide photographs and a drawing of the area between and just passed the existing groins depicting MHW & MLW. J.H. Geideman Page 2 Please ~xplain how the groin will control erosion for at least thirty years. How often will sand be moved to bypass the groin and maintain the beach on the south side of the groin. What measurements would be taken to determine the amount of sand to place on the other site of the groin? Please furnish the basis for your calculations that the rate of recession south of the proposed groin will not be increased. How far is the house from the bulkhead? Please analyse several alternative gro~n designs in order to minim55--e the impaq upon littoral drift and the down current (south side) rate of recession. Please furnish a side-view of the proposed groin and any alternative proposed groin in a larger format allowing for reading the vertical dimensions. Please consider an alternative groin, no higher than 1.6' above MLW and with its waterward end at MLW. Also we offer for your consideration the modification of the proposed groin, in order to minimize the impact upon littoral drift, to include placing sand on the up current (north side) of the groin at the completion of construction. Pursuant to 15 CFR 930.60(a), the review of your consistency certification will begin after we receive and determine that the necessary data and information is adequate to assess coastal zone effects. Any additional information which you believe will facilitate our consistency review of this project would be appreciated. A copy of this letter has been sent to the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers. Please call me at (518) 474-6000 if you have any questions. Sincerely, William Feldhusen Environmental Analyst cc: COE/NY District - Sophie Ettinger NYS DEC/Region 1 - Robert Greene Town of Southold - Valerie Scopaz lOl, O'