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Wednesday, February 14, 2018
5:30 PM
Present Were: Michael J. Domino, President
John M. Bredemeyer, Vice-President
Glenn Goldsmith, Trustee
A. Nicholas Krupski, Trustee
Greg Williams, Trustee
Elizabeth Cantrell, Senior Clerk Typist
Damon Hagan, Assistant Town Attorney
CALL MEETING TO ORDER
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
NEXT FIELD INSPECTION: Wednesday, March 13, 2018 at 8:00 AM
NEXT TRUSTEE MEETING: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 at 5:30 PM at the Main
Meeting Hall
WORK SESSIONS: Monday, March 19, 2018 at 4:30 PM at the Town Hall Annex
2"d floor Board Room, and on Wednesday, March 21, 2018 at
5:00 PM at the Main Meeting Hall
MINUTES: Approve Minutes of December 13, 2017 and January 17, 2018.
TRUSTEE DOMINO: Good evening and welcome to our February 14th,
2018, monthly meeting.
I would like to recognize the people on the dais. To my immediate left is
Trustee Bredemeyer, Trustee Goldsmith, Trustee Krupski and Trustee Williams.
To my right is Assistant Town Attorney Damon Hagan, and our senior clerk
typist Elizabeth Cantrell. Also with us tonight is court stenographer Wayne
Galante. And the Conservation Advisory Council member tonight John Stein.
I would like to announce that the agendas are located on the podium and outside
in the lobby.
Postponements. We have postponements for a number of reasons, usually
the paperwork is incomplete. But tonight on page three, we have number three,
SCOTT KAUFMAN requests a Wetland Permit and a Coastal Erosion Permit to
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remove existing damaged stairway and terrace retaining walls; construct along
eroding toe of bluff approximately 210 linear feet of stone revetment, including
angled westerly return, all consisting of approximately 3 to 5 ton stone placed over
50 to 100 pound core stone and filter cloth; restore bluff face using terrace
retaining walls, approximately 600 cubic yards of sand re-nourishment
(including approximately 350 cubic yards to cover proposed revetment), and
native plantings; construct a ±3' wide berm with ±50 cubic yards of sand/loam within
15' wide vegetated non-turf buffer to be established adjacent to bluff crest to
control storm-water runoff; and construct a new 4'x±50' elevated
bluff stairway with landings and handrails consisting of 4' wide
x ±3' long entry steps at top of bluff down to a 4'x8' upper
platform with bench to 4' x ±8' steps to a 4'x8' middle landing
with bench to 4' x ±10' steps to a 4'x4' middle landing to 4' x
±8'steps to a 4'x6.7' lower landing to 4' x ±14' stairs to beach.
Located: 2050 Dignans Road, Cutchogue. SCTM# 1000-83-2-7.3,
has been postponed.
And on page six, we have numbers ten, eleven and 12, are
also postponed.
Number ten is LUCINDA BARNES requests a Wetland Permit to
remove invasive/non-native vegetation and vines within an
approximate 9,OOOsq.ft. area landward of the top of bluff, and
re-vegetate area by planting native vegetation consisting of low
and high bush blueberries, beach grass, bayberry, and beach
plum; and to maintain the existing access path to the beach.
Located: 63875 County Road 48, Greenport. SCTM# 1000-40-1-21
Number eleven, AMP Architecture on behalf of WILLIAM GRELLA
8GARY OSBORNE request a Wetland Permit for the as-built
232sq.ft. Belgium block parking area; as-built 121 sq.ft.
Belgium block walkway; as-built 517.3sq ft. managed lawn areas;
as-built 240sq.ft. gardens; as-built 160.5sq.ft. crushed shell
areas; as-built 22.3sq.ft. metal planter box; as-built
14.3sq.ft. metal waterfall; as-built 15sq.ft. rear concrete
stairs; as-built 71 3sq.ft. pavers on sand; as-built 95sq ft.
gravel on sand; as-built 11 sq.ft. fire pit on sand; as-built 41
sq.ft. open shower with Belgium block on sand base; as-built two
(2) 7 2sq.ft. concrete table bases; as-built 16sq.ft. front
concrete stairs; and for the proposed installation of a
46.4sq.ft. set of second-story wood stairs consisting of a
4'x4.3' upper platform with 4'x7.4' stairs to seaward side patio
area, proposed installation of 27sq.ft. of pavers on sand.
Located: 1200 First Street, New Suffolk. SCTM# 1000-1 17-7-30
And number 12, Stacey Bishop on behalf of FORDHAM HOUSE
LLC, clo DENIS BOUBOULIS requests a Wetland Permit to install a
±1,67sq.ft. on-grade paver patio along the seaward side of the
dwelling; extend existing westerly 15' long by 10' high by 12"
thick concrete and stone veneer retaining wall an additional 35'
seaward for a total length of 50' beginning at the left rear
corner of existing dwelling; at seaward end of westerly
retaining wall, install a 28' long, varying height concrete and
stone veneer retaining wall parallel with the dwelling; along
easterly side of property, extend existing 3' high natural stone
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retaining wall an additional t45' seaward; approximately 15'
seaward of proposed 28' long parallel retaining wall, install a
t3' high by ±45' long retaining wall situated approximately 1'
landward of established 50' wide non-disturbance buffer; and to
install a generator pad, generator, and buried gas tank for the generator.
Located: 5205 The Long way, East Marion. SCTM# 1000-21-5-11
has been postponed
I would like to announce under Chapter 275-8(c), the files
were officially closed seven days ago, and submission of
paperwork after that date may result in a delay of the
processing of the application.
At this time I'll entertain a motion to have our next field
inspection Wednesday, March 14th, 2018, 8:00 AM, at the Town
Annex.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: So moved
TRUSTEE DOMINO: Second?
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: Second.
TRUSTEE DOMINO- All in favor?
(ALL AYES).
TRUSTEE DOMINO: I'll entertain a motion hold the next Trustee
meeting Wednesday, March 21 st, 2018, at 5:30, here at the main
meeting hall.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: So moved.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: Second.
TRUSTEE DOMINO: All in favor?
(ALL AYES).
TRUSTEE DOMINO: I would like a motion to hold the next
worksession at the Town Annex board room, second floor, on March
19th, 2018, and at 5.00 PM Wednesday, March 21, 2018, at the
main meeting hall.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER So moved.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: Second.
TRUSTEE DOMINO: All in favor?
(ALL AYES).
TRUSTEE DOMINO: At this time I'll entertain a motion to approve
the Minutes of the December 13th, 2017, and January 17th, 2018,
meetings
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: So moved.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: Second.
TRUSTEE DOMINO: All in favor?
(ALL AYES).
I. MONTHLY REPORT:
The Trustees monthly report for January 2018. A check for
$21,400.67 was forwarded to the Supervisor's Office for the
General Fund.
II. PUBLIC NOTICES:
Public Notices are posted on the Town Clerk's Bulletin Board for
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review.
III. STATE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY REVIEWS:
RESOLVED that the Board of Trustees of the Town of Southold
hereby finds that the following applications more fully
described in Section VI Public Hearings Section of the Trustee
agenda dated Wednesday, February 14, 2018, are classified as
Type II Actions pursuant to SEQRA Rules and Regulations, and are
not subject to further review under SEQRA:
Mattituck Property Family Trust - SCTM# 1000-123-2-28.4
Marijo C. Adimey & Veronica M. Lugris SCTM# 1000-135-1-5
Renee Poncet - SCTM# 1000-35-4-28.36
Timothy Casamento & Kleo King SCTM# 1000-52-9-1.2
Brewers Yacht Yard at Greenport, Inc. SCTM# 1000-43-3-2
Mattituck Park District - SCTM# 1000-126-6-17 & 1000-126-6-18
Shamgar Capital, LLC, c/o Daniel P. Buttafuoco, Member
SCTM# 1000-70-13-20.7
IV. RESOLUTIONS - ADMINISTRATIVE PERMITS:
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: Chris Mohr Landscaping, Inc., on behalf of
PAUL CUTRONE requests an Administrative Permit for the as-built
installation of approximately 550' (±275' on either side) of 8'
high deer fencing attached to vineyard poles along each side
yard property line from the house to the water.
Located: 940 Maratooka Lane, Mattituck. STM# 1000-115-3-17
This one was tabled last month due to the fact that the
existing deer fence went too close to the water So after
speaking with the contractor who spoke with Mr. Cutrone, they
have agreed to remove one section of the fence to bring it
approximately 20 feet landward of Marratooka Lake.
So I make a motion to approve it based on new plans showing
the removal of the last section of fence
TRUSTEE WILLIAMS I second the motion.
TRUSTEE DOMINO: Motion made and seconded. All in favor?
(ALL AYES).
V. APPLICATION FOR EXTENSIONS/TRANSFERS/ADMINISTRATIVE
AMENDMENTS:
TRUSTEE DOMINO: Roman numeral V. In order to simplify our
meeting I'll make a motion to approve as a group items one
through six. They are listed as follows:
Number one, Bill Isaacson, Manager on behalf of HAYWATERS
ROAD, LLC requests the Last One Year Extension to Wetland Permit
#8576, as issued on March 18, 2015.
Located- 75 Haywaters Road, Cutchogue. SCTM# 1000-111-1-2
Number two, JOAN L. COOKE requests a One-year Extension to
Wetland Permit#8750, as issued on March 23, 2016.
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Located. 2205 Bay Avenue, East Marion. SCTM# 1000-31-17-6
Number three, GULL POND LANE, LLC, clo GREGORY CASSIMOS
requests an Administrative Amendment to Wetland Permit#9022 to
include water and electric to the dock and bulkhead.
Located: 875 Gull Pond Lane, Greenport. SCTM# 1000-35-4-28.42
Number four, RICHARD & ALICE RUBINSTEIN request a Transfer
of Wetland Permit#9106 from John Rumpler to Richard &Alice
Rubinstein, as issued on October 18, 2017.
Located, 470 Goose Creek Lane, Southold. SCTM# 1000-79-1-5
Number five, RICHARD & ALICE RUBINSTEIN request a Transfer
of Wetland Permit#5049 from Virginia Rumpler to Richard &Alice
Rubinstein, as issued on August 30, 1999.
Located: 470 Goose Creek Lane, Southold. SCTM# 1000-79-1-5
Number six, RICHARD & ALICE RUBINSTEIN request a Transfer
of Wetland Permit#4008 from Virginia Rumpler to Richard &Alice
Rubinstein, as issued on May 1, 1992.
Located: 470 Goose Creek Lane, Southold. SCTM# 1000-79-1-5
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI. Second.
TRUSTEE DOMINO: Motion made and seconded. All in favor?
(ALL AYES):
VI. PUBLIC HEARINGS:
TRUSTEE DOMINO: At this time I'll take a motion to go off our
regular meeting agenda and enter into the public hearings.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: So moved.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Second.
TRUSTEE DOMINO- All in favor?
(ALL AYES).
TRUSTEE DOMINO: This is a public hearing in the matter of the
following applications for permits under the Wetlands ordinance
of the Town of Southold. I have an affidavit of publication
from the Suffolk Times. Pertinent correspondence may be read
prior to asking for comments from the public. Please keep your
comments relevant and if possible, brief.
AMENDMENTS:
TRUSTEE DOMINO: Number one, under Amendments. En-Consultants on
behalf of MATTITUCK PROPERTY FAMILY TRUST request an Amendment
to Wetland Permit#8996 to construct a ±20 linear foot landward
extension onto the recently constructed low-profile vinyl groin.
Located. 520 Park Avenue Extension, Mattituck. SCTM# 1000-123-2-28.4
The Trustees did a field inspection on February 7th at 12 o'clock sharp.
Our notes indicated that there is a question if the amendment required DEC
approval; and that the 20-foot extension would be in line with the current
groins, neighboring groins; and suggested that the landward height of the new
extension be in line with the bottom steps of the stairs.
The LWRP coordinator found this to be inconsistent. The
inconsistency arises from the fact that he questions whether the
structure will help protect natural structures, natural geologic
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features, and wishes to protect public access along the
foreshore, for avoidance and minimalization of structure.
The Conservation Advisory Council resolved not to support
the application to amend this permit as it contradicts the
original approval. The existing groin is underwater at both tide
cycles and landward aggression is environmentally detrimental to
the subject property and surrounding properties. And that it
would impact the littoral drift of sand.
Is there anyone here to speak to this application?
MR HERRMANN: Yes. Rob Herrmann of En-Consultants on behalf of
the applicants.
I thought this was a pretty benign application. It's
getting a lot of flak, so let me see if I could go through it quickly.
In April of 2017, the Trustees issued Wetlands Permit#8996
which was to replace a then-existing 56-linear foot timber groin
with a shorter 48-foot groin, low profile vinyl groin, with the
reduction coming as a result of the removal of the outermost
eight feet on the seaward side of the groin. So the groin that
you see there is eight feet shorter than the groin that you
originally reviewed, as that outer section was permanently removed.
The groin already extends just landward of the intertidal
zone, so in terms of the groin's impact with respect to the littoral drift,
what is being proposed would have absolutely no impact at all.
What we are proposing is a landward extension of the
groin. This is actually very similar to what ended up happening
at 220 Park Avenue Extension a few years ago for the Powers'
property, where we had a historically existing groin, that was
replaced, it was shortened, and then it turned out that just
because of increased erosion, rising sea level, all the things
that are contributing to the new dynamic on the beach there,
that during spring high tides and storm high tides, the water
was outflanking the landward end of the groin.
So we proposed to extend the groin. I think to try answer
some of your questions, yes, it would be an exact linear
continuation of the groin that is there, it would just go
landward by an additional 20 feet. Again, that section would
occur completely landward of the intertidal zone. It's above
mean high water. The goal is just to get the end of the groin
above the point in the beach where spring high water hits and is
outflanking and eroding around the end of the groin.
It does need approval, modified approval from the New York
State DEC, which has been issued. I think I sent a copy to Liz.
She is nodding, yes, I did. And so we are now here asking for
your approval.
And just as a point of reference, that other permit was
Wetlands Permit#7278. It was originally issued in April, 2010,
at 220 Park Avenue Extension, and then a couple of years later
we had to come back and proposed a 30-foot landward extension of
that groin that was approved under a separate permit, #7803
issued by Trustees May 16th, 2012.
So in terms of it being consistent in nature with the other
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groins, it's at least consistent with that one 300 feet at the beach.
As I said, it really should be a pretty straightforward
application. I don't understand the Conservation Advisory
Council or LWRP's interpretation that this would create a
negative impact on the beach or public access or the littoral
drift. But that's all I can give for you.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I think we have to at some point consider the
code and public access. What about just a small set of steps
going up and over somewhere on the groin?
I don't think we previously discussed that amongst the
Board. I'm just throwing this out there.
MR. HERRMANN: I mean, it would be unusual to have that on a low
profile groin. I mean, that beach has definitely dropped.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I don't necessarily disagree, but to satisfy
the concerns of the LWRP coordinator and the Conservation
Advisory Council.
TRUSTEE DOMINO. How about placing sand of similar grain size and
an unspecified yardage. I won't say it's 50, you know,
sufficient sand, landward of what is presently there to sort of
blend in with the existing dune that you have and therefore ease
the access.
MR. HERRMANN: In terms of the issue of access, that would not be
a permanent solution because I have a feeling that it would
probably, it would certainly have the potential to be lost. Um,
I mean you would still be able to walk around the landward side
of the groin That's why you are not cutting off access along
the beach.
First of all, you can step over it. But you can still, you
would still be able to easily walk around it. It's not like this
is being tied into the house or the deck or in some way
precluding public access.
If you were to -- I guess the reason why, Nick, I'm trying
to think in terms of the plan, the steps -- you would not want
to put the steps below regular high water, mean high water, so
you would have to put the steps, you know, up closer where
spring high water is, which is at that point almost at the end
of the groin. So if I was going there and I could walk here and
walk up steps or walk another three feet this way and walk
around it, I would probably just go around the end of it.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: What about some sort of signage to say there is
public access around the top of the groin?
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: We have not had that as an issue in the
past. Most people understand they have rights to the foreshore,
would just exercise that right.
I think we have not embarked on that as a policy and I
think that would be something to discuss at work session if we
want to have that on all groin or dock extensions as a matter of
policy or permanence.
MR. HERRMANN: We normally do it with docks And I understand
that. I mean, the docks are intended to be elevated, they are
required to be elevated. You don't want to force people to
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either climb over them or go on their hands and knees underneath
them. And we typically do include the stairway For me, it's
something unusual for a groin, I don't think it's necessary and
-- go ahead.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: What we did notice on field inspection was
the loss on the, the landward of the upward section of the groin
as it exists now, may be a function of the prevailing
southeasterly fetch and storm tides eating it out. So I think
there was some discussion about some additional, non-specified
amount of sand and possibly replanting with hopes that it would
be some kind of connector to the primary dune, and that would
naturally, hopefully, if the beach is stabilized in the vicinity
of where the beginning of the primary dune is, that quite
possibly this would not be an issue, because instead of loss of
beach landward of the groin, it might stabilize and capture more
sand. Maybe that is wishful thinking
MR. HERRMANN- I mean, there is no natural feature, no natural
dune feature that close to the water That's part of the
problem. You would have to almost connect it up to the road, at
which point you are filling the whole property.
TRUSTEE DOMINO: To Trustee Bredemeyer's point, if you look at
groin that is to the west, it's much further up the beach than
what is -- comparable to what you are proposing, it appears it
has stabilized the beach there. Whereas right now on the
landward side of the existing groin you can see it has been
scoured out. So I have the feeling that -- you can see there, if
you extend it 20 foot landward at the same elevation and put
some sand --
MR. HERRMANN: So try to transition it more. I see what you are saying.
TRUSTEE DOMINO: It might work.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: You see in the photographs, the easterly
groins don't have any connectors and/or are in great disrepair
and that's probably at least in part some of the additional wave
energy that high tide is probably over the groins and it's not
stopped at all.
MR. HERRMANN- We can try it.
TRUSTEE WILLIAMS- And filling in that sand to an appropriate
amount would also ease the public access
MR. HERRMANN: We can certainly try it. I would have to come back
to you Do you want to hold it over until March and I can speak
to the homeowner and the contractor and see if we can come back
with some sort of modified plan that would show the --
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: Sure.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Fine with me.
TRUSTEE DOMINO: All right.
MR. HERRMANN: I mean, they want to get it done. It's not an emergency.
TRUSTEE DOMINO: Anyone else wish to speak to this application?
(Negative response).
Any questions from the Board?
(Negative response)
TRUSTEE DOMINO: All right, hearing none, I'll make a motion to
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table this application.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Second.
TRUSTEE DOMINO: All in favor?
(ALL AYES).
MR. HERRMANN: Thank you, for the discussion.
WETLAND & COASTAL EROSION PERMITS:
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: Next hearing, number one, under Wetland and
Coastal Erosion permits, DKR Shores, Inc., on behalf of MARIJO
C. ADIMEY &VERONICA M. LUGRIS requests a Wetland Permit and a
Coastal Erosion Permit to remove and replace in-place 84' of
existing vinyl bulkhead with new steel sheet piling bulkhead;
install two (2) 20' long returns; backfill disturbed area with
45 cubic yards of clean fill from an upland source; revegetate
disturbed areas with Cape American beach grass and native
species of shrubs; temporarily remove and replace in-place
existing bluff stairs with two (2) 12'x16' decks; reconstruct
existing 4'x5' cantilevered platform and aluminum beach access
stairs; and install French drains at top of bluff to reduce rain
runoff on the bluff face.
Located: 21515 Soundview Avenue, Southold. SCTM# 1000-135-1-5
This application has been deemed to be inconsistent with
the Town's LWRP because certain structures on the property never
received a Trustee permit.
And the recommendation of the LWRP coordinator is that we
have some discussion of staging of equipment and work plan to
provide protection for the bluff and water during the course of
construction.
The Conservation Advisory Council does not support the
project as applied for. The rear setback of 16 feet from the
bank is inadequate The Conservation Advisory Council recommends
a new design plan due to a history of erosion in the area.
To the file has been sent two letters, lengthy letters that
the Trustees have had an opportunity review at work session, one
dated February 12th signed by multiple individuals: Matthew
Cappabianca, Walter and Elaine Flesh, Chris and Sandy Nuzzi , and
another dated February 3rd, which is I believe by the owner of
the property, a Marijo Adimey.
The Board of Trustees performed an inspection on February
9th. At the time of inspection we found at least one and
possibly two pipe penetrations of the bluff, which would be
contrary to good practice, and we'll discuss that further during
the hearing.
And there was work being done at a bluff repair for which a
contractor was ordered to submit an emergency application.
Otherwise, the Board viewed the reconstruction of a bulkhead
here as necessary to protect the property.
Is there anyone here who wishes to speak on behalf of this
application?
MS. RIGDON: Agena Rigdon, DKR Shores, here to represent the
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applicant. If you could specify which particular structures you
did mention did not have a Trustee permit?
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: Yes. Specifically the decks exceed the size
--the decks are not permitted, based on the information we have
from the LWRP coordinator, and they exceed the allowed size
under the provisions of the Wetlands ordinance because they are
decks associated with steps.
And the Board then had a further discussion at our
work session, which might lead to recommendations for a permit,
but we'll bring that up as the hearing progresses. But we
thought possibly to dial the lower deck in size and possibly
recommend some construction techniques to make sure it's
stabilized because it's in a coastal erosion area.
MS RIGDON: Okay. The decks in question did have a previous
permit, as you are aware, for 12x16. It's possible they could
not have constructed exactly 12x16. If they did measure, and you
are in fact correct, we could have that possibly corrected. Yes.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: Okay, I think based on what the Board
saw in the field, although we would prefer to have the upper deck
landward of the bluff face, it was discussed at work session that
it would do more damage to the bluff at this time, which is also
under construction because the emergency blowout, that the
Board's feeling was the upper deck is sufficiently high above
the re-vegetation that it should not impact the bluff. But the
lower deck we would want to have it reduced to no greater than
100-square feet and be fastened with stainless steel fastenings.
That would stabilize it in case wave action were to overtop --
overtopping the bulkhead in this area has been a frequent
occurrence now, bulkheads and homes similar situated, so we
would not want to have to the deck ripped up and end up into
Long Island Sound creating a hazard
MS. RIGDON: I understand And does the Board have a problem with
the elevation of the deck being where it is? Or did they want
it on grade?
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: The Board discussed we would prefer to have
that lower deck essentially on grade. Certainly below the lip of the edge
of the bulkhead so that it would not be catching any wave energy.
MS. RIGDON: And the 4x5 platform and the removable staircase,
does the Board have an issue with that?
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: That has not been an issue. Removable
stairs and/or--
MS. RIGDON: Is recommended. Is normal.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: They have become ordinary.
MS. RIGDON: And the Board is comfortable with the stone splash
pad, which is standard, in case of splash over?
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: Yes.
MS. RIGDON: I understand the bulkhead was repaired out of
emergency purpose because of the blizzard of'18 did cause holes
in the fiberglass sheathing. So there really was not a choice
She did have to save the bulkhead, and it was an emergency
repair. There was no time, unfortunately. I did call Liz, I did
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make her aware of it. I did e-mail her that an emergency repair
had been done.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: And I believe in the context of the
photograph you see here, for the restoration, ordinarily the
emergency repairs require a return to the Board for full
permitting. We want to entertain a discussion for ultimate
plans for bluff stabilization, whether it will include a hard
terracing or coir logs which are similarly applied on the
eastern section. In other words, we want for that permit, but
not really part of this hearing, we would want to have a
detailed work plan as to what the end construction will look at
so the Board can review what it will look like after the
emergency stabilization.
MS. RIGDON: I will have to consult the client.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: That's not now. We are not doing that now.
That's not for this discussion. I just mention it because it's
in the photograph. Also to address the LWRP coordinator's
concerns about staging.
MS. RIGDON: I see the terracing. The staging of equipment would
be on the adjacent owner's property who is actually going to be
coming in for bulkhead reconstruction permits as well.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER This is the owner to the east?
MS. RIGDON- Correct. And you can see there is machinery access
going through their property.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER. So you anticipate that we would see an
application for the adjoining owner and then the work might
progress as a one-step permits are issued, when and if for both
properties, would progress in single access at the same time.
MS. RIGDON: Correct. And as you can see the bluff plantings were
designed specifically with a shrub as well as not'just beach grass.
As far as the terracing, it was not in my plan. That was
just an emergency. I generally don't put terracing in the
planting. It's generally not within my planting schedule.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: I believe for the sake of clarity, the Board
is looking to see that as far as a separate permit application.
Totally separate from this application before us.
MS. RIGDON- Great. There is a current permit right now that was
modified. It's totally separate. I didn't do it. Done by
Creative Plantings, was it? Dave? I think Creative Plantings
did it and I'll have him do the planting in a separate permit action.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: Okay, with respect to -- any additional
questions from the Board?
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: The two pipes
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: Yes. You are proposing a French drain. Are
you aware of the bluff penetrations and the drain pipes? Now this --
MS. RIGDON: I didn't see that.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: That appears to be ice that froze through
discharge that may have been either some kind of overflow from
drywells or directly from the gutters and leaders, which is
certainly to your own disadvantage because it can blow the bluff out.
TRUSTEE WILLIAMS: There is two of them penetrating the bluff.
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MS. RIGDON: She was not aware that was there, and apparently
when the bluff washed out, that appeared. She had just purchased
the property and didn't realize that was actually there. So
that's probably why, actually, the bluff did slough, was the
runoff. And I did make her aware that during the project we
would have to do French drains like we did in the Lancey project
because part of the reason the bluff is collapsing is because
the rain runoff coming down So that is part of the project and
is mandatory.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: The French drain does not appear--
MS. RIGDON- It's on the plan.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: It's on your plan?
MS. RIGDON: Yes.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER It's not on the survey.
MS. RIGDON: No. It's on my site plan. And if you'll note, it's
up on the top and here is a copy of the DEC permit as well.
It's stamped approved and does show also the French drain.
There is two, one on each side.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: All right. Before I open this up to
some additional Board discussion it would be appropriate to see
if anyone else wishes to speak to this application
MS. DELANEY: My name is Melissa Delaney, I'm submitting letters
from the adjacent property owners asking to adjourn a decision
on this.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER. Okay.
MS. DELANEY- I think it was E-mailed, but I do have copies.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: Sure, if you could give them to the clerk.
MR. HAGAN- This should be the letter that is referenced. It's
the same one.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: It's the same one? That's the February 12th
letter?
MR. HAGAN. Yes. From Matthew Cappabianca that was referenced
earlier.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: Yes, that was referenced.
MS. DELANEY: Yes. They could not attend tonight.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: Good, I wanted to make sure that was
understood
Is there anyone else that wishes to speak to this application?
(Negative response)
Going back into Board discussion, President Domino informed
me that, quite properly, that because we have the situation of
the pipes going through the bulkhead, that a licensed design
professional and probably engineer or PE should probably be the
one to submit a detailed drainage plan for review by the Town
engineers to make sure that waters that are going to be routed
to a French drain or any sub-surface drainage system would be
properly engineered so we don't create a situation that
encourages bluff failure in the future, particularly because of
the close siting of the structure to the Sound bluff.
MS. RIGDON: That's acceptable.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER And if the Board members also would have any
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additional thoughts, but because of concern about protecting the
lateral lands of adjacent neighbors, there would be, I think it
would be prudent that we have a detailed staging and work plan
that would entertain all aspects of the bulkhead construction
with respect to the neighbors on the east and on the west for
staging purposes, and if it is true that the neighbor to the
east will grant you permissions to conduct activities by staging
on their property or beach access, we would need a letter of
permission from the easterly neighbor for the file as well.
MS. RIGDON: I believe that was E-mailed to Liz by all four
property owners to the east.
MR. HAGAN: Just with regards to the e-mail that came in, it came
in in a Word document, it was not signed and there was no way to
authenticate it was in fact a consent for that.
MS. RIGDON: I'll get the originals for you.
MR. HAGAN: So it's a signed original?
MS. RIGDON: I'll get you a signed original for all four owners.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: Are there any additional comments or
concerns?
(No response).
I think this would go a long way, staging plans,
engineering discussion for review by the Town engineers,
possibly an amended plan that would reduce to the recommended
size for the lower deck by the Trustees with stainless or
similar fastenings at or very near grade would go a long ways
with a future submission to detail all those and with the
approval of the engineers would address the inconsistency of the
LWRP coordinator and would systematically provide protection
under coastal erosion and bring it into compliance.
MS. RIGDON: Would the Board consider closing for written
submission?
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: Yes, we would consider tabling for
resubmission.
MS. RIGDON: Thank you, sir.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: I'll make a motion to table this application
for submission of additional items as discussed at the hearing.
Any further comments?
(Negative response).
I move that we table.
TRUSTEE WILLIAMS: I second the motion.
TRUSTEE DOMINO: Motion made and seconded. All in favor?
(ALL AYES).
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: Under Wetland and Coastal Erosion permits,
number two, Michael Kimack on behalf of SOUTHOLD SUNSETS, LLC
requests a Wetland Permit and a Coastal Erosion Permit to
demolish existing one-story dwelling, decks and foundation;
construct on a piling system to elevate the finished floor to
16ft. elevation a proposed 957.77sgf.ft. one-story,
single-family dwelling with a combined 262.75sq.ft. of seaward
side porch area with 7.6' wide stairs to ground, and side deck
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area with 4' wide stairs to ground. Located: 4200 Kenny's Road,
Southold. SCTM# 1000-54-4-3
This application is returned to us for submission of a
sanitary system on the plans.
The Conservation Advisory Council did not support this
application. They made no further recommendation from the
previous reviews. They have continued to have concerns about the
preservation of the primary dune which has been the subject of
Trustee discussion at work session.
The LWRP coordinator raises two essential issues under the
Town's coastal policies. He is concerned with minimizing the
potential loss and damage by locating and developing of
structures away from flooding and erosion hazards and avoid
development other than water dependent uses in coastal areas,
and that in the event the action was approved, that the Board
should consider an alternative onsite waste water system which
also was discussed in detail at the Trustees recent work session.
Is there anyone here that wishes to speak on behalf of this
application?
MR. KIMACK: Michael Kimack on behalf of the applicant. The two
concerns in terms of protecting the primary dune, as was
discussed at the workshop hearing, we are going to replace the
septic system one way or the other and the only place we can put
it is on the back side of the primary dune. There is no other
alternative to that in terms of the site situation.
As far as the water dependent activities and protecting the
beach area, as has been discussed before, it's the intention to
raise the existing structure with a new structure, essentially
in the same location So there is not any disturbance upon
which has already been disturbed. So that basically should not
necessarily be an overriding factor, I believe, in that situation.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: Any questions from the Board?
(Negative response).
Okay, is there anyone else who wishes to speak to this
application?
(Negative response).
Okay, hearing none --
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Sorry. Do we have a revegetation plan on that?
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: No. That was in my short list of addressing
-- okay. Hearing no -- I plan to bring up-at permitting a
discussion on revegetation. It's on my short list. It's brought
up by Trustee Krupski.
Hearing no further comments I move the close the hearing in
this matter.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Second.
TRUSTEE DOMINO: All in favor?
(ALL AYES).
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: In addressing the LWRP coordinator's
comments, the applicant has worked with the Board and reduced
the size of the structure to come into compliance with coastal
erosion size requirements, and also by honoring flood zone
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requirements and putting the house up on pilings, it essentially
does address concerns about at least damage to the primary
dune and actually will allow more area to flourish as primary
dune, but of course the sanitary system construction and
construction itself will end up damaging the primary dune during
construction.
So,accordingly, I would move to approve this application
subject to submission of a planting plan for American beach
grass in all disturbed areas and over the sanitary systems and
whereas the structure has been raised to meet flood plane
elevation, it's on pilings, and it is compliant with basically
flood plain zone and building codes, as far as we know, that it
addresses concerns about the nature of the property. Although it
is not a water dependent use, it is has a history of
single-family occupation.
So I move to approve subject.to a planting plan and whereby
the construction itself and the application addresses the
matters brought up by the LWRP coordinator, the Board would
consider it a consistency. All construction in the manner as
depicted on the survey last dated December 27, 2017, by G&A Land
Surveyors.
TRUSTEE WILLIAMS: Second.
TRUSTEE DOMINO: All in favor?
(ALL AYES).
MR. KIMACK: Quick question. Thank you. This is a little unusual
But your approval was necessary for me to go back to Zoning
because I was referred from Zoning. Is that something that you
would do to acknowledge to them or do I have to wait for the
permit then physically give that to them in order to reestablish
a hearing date.
MS. CANTRELL: They need a copy of the permit. They have to wait.
MR. KIMACK: Then I'll get that. Thank you, very much
WETLAND PERMITS:
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH- Number one under Wetland Permits,
En-Consultants on behalf of THOMAS & LINDA KELLY request a
Wetland Permit to remove existing fixed catwalk, ramp, and
floating dock, and replant any disturbed tidal marsh vegetation
in-kind/in-place; maintain existing 335sq.ft. on-grade walkway
and patio area consisting of loose stone pavers set in soil on
top of berm and associated 3.5'x8' stone steps; remove existing
mulch and landscaping from approximately 175sq.ft. portion of
non-disturbance buffer; remove approximately 340sq.ft. of
existing mulch from cleared pathway that extends onto easterly
neighboring property within 100 feet of wetlands; reduce width
of existing cleared/mulched pathway to 4 feet by restoring
approximately 1,350sq.ft. of pathway with native vegetation; and
clear and maintain new 4' wide pathway from existing 12'x16'
timber kayak rack.(to remain) to the tidal wetlands boundary
along Long Creek.
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Located: 4553 Wickham Avenue, Mattituck. SCTM# 1000-107-4-13
The LWRP found this consistent and inconsistent. The
inconsistency states the proposed work is included within the
50-foot wide non-disturbance buffer established in permit#7149
dated July 22nd, 2009. Although undefined in Town code, it's my
understanding an undisturbed buffer is an area that shall be
left in a natural state.
The Conservation Advisory Council resolved to support the
application however the violations within the non-disturbance
buffer need to be addressed
The Trustees conducted a number of field inspections to
this location, most recently on January 9th, along with
subsequent in-house review.
Is there anyone here who wishes to speak regarding this
application?
MR. HERRMANN: Yes. Rob Herrmann of En-Consultants on
behalf of applicants Thomas and Linda Kelly.
This is an application that is intended primarily to
rectify a handful of aforementioned violations on the property
which have been settled with the Town Attorney's office but
still need to be remedied with the Trustees through the Wetlands
permitting process.
To that end, I recently met with the Board at the site last
May, and based on the guidance received at that meeting prepared
and filed the application that is before you tonight.
As a quick summary of what is contained in the application,
which again is for the most part removal and restoration of
structures and activities within the previously designated
buffer areas, most significantly including the proposed removal
of an unpermitted dock that was constructed along the creek, and
to restore any disturbed tidal wetland vegetation in the
location of the removed dock; to remove existing mulch and
landscaping from approximately 175-square foot area of the
non-disturbance buffer that is currently in place; to remove an
approximately 340-square foot mulched area from an existing
pathway located within 100 feet of the wetlands boundary, to
reduce the width of the existing cleared pathway through the
buffer to four feet by restoring approximately 1,350 square feet
of existing clearing with native vegetation and again, any mulch
or landscape vegetation in those areas would be removed in favor
of native vegetation. And in addition, we are seeking the
Board's permission to maintain what is an existing on-grade loose
paver walkway and sitting area that exists on top of an
artificially created berm that predates, I don't know how long
it goes back to, but that was not established by the current
owner And to maintain an existing kayak rack and to create a
pathway from the kayak rack to the tidal wetlands boundary so
that the owners continue to at least have some recreational use
and enjoyment of the creek.
I think you had, I don't know if that was the picture for
this site or not, but there was one item that we had discussed
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at our site meeting that I did not include in the application, I
think probably because I didn't remember it and didn't know how
to include it. But there was apparently some sort of irrigation
in place in the buffer.area. Um, we would remove that, but I
would ask the Board to consider allowing it to remain long
enough to establish the native vegetation that has to be planted
in place of a clear pathway. So we would establish that
vegetation, allow it to be irrigated, then it would have to be
removed so, I don't know exactly what mechanism you would use
but in order to get a C of C, I would suggest making the C of C
issuance contingent on both the vegetation being established,
everything else being restored and the irrigation being gone,
the same way you would require electrical approval from the
Building Department before issuing a C of C for a dock permit.
And that's it.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH- Is there anyone else here who wishes to speak
regarding this application?
(Negative response).
Any questions or comments from the Board?
(Negative response).
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I think, if anyone feels differently about this
I'm certainly open to discussion, but we had discussed possibly
leaving the much because at this point it's mostly broken down
and will it cause more disturbance to try and rake that up. I
don't know if it's worth it.
MR. HERRMANN: It makes sense, I think, in my opinion,
substantively it would make sense to leave it. Basically we are
proposing to remove it, symbolically, but I think as long as the
areas that are, I mean basically that whole buffer with the
exception of that four foot pathway has to be revegetated. So
the mulch is not going to inhibit the revegetation, as you say,
it's organic much so it will just break down and become part
part of the soil over time.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER- A lot of it will get lost during the
revegetation.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: That's what I would think, yes.
TRUSTEE WILLIAMS: In the field we discussed just for safety of
the owner to access the wetlands, you know, if he wanted to, in
his pathway to put some steps into that berm to make it easier
to traverse. That's option.
MR. HERRMANN: There is a small set of steps. It's just paver
steps on the landward side of the berm sort of beyond where you
are standing up there.
TRUSTEE WILLIAMS: If they want to put foot steps on the seaward
side to get safely down the bank so you are not slipping down
the bank.
MR. HERRMANN: I think we were proposing the path, Greg, from
that kayak rack actually goes around the end of that. So at
this point I would rather not propose any other structural --
TRUSTEE WILLIAMS: Sounds good.
MR. HERRMANN: Quit while we are behind, so to speak.
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TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: Any other questions or comments from the
Board?
(Negative response).
Hearing none, I'll make a motion to close this hearing.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Second.
TRUSTEE DOMINO: All in favor?
(ALL AYES).
MR. HERRMANN: Thank you, for the time spent with me on this.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: I make a motion to approve this application
with the condition the.mulch can remain due to the fact that
removing it may cause more disturbance to the non-disturbance
area and that the current irrigation system to remain in place
until the Fall, at which time the heads are to be removed and
the zone to be deactivated, all of which would satisfy the LWRP
coordinator due to the fact that we will not be disturbing the
non-disturbance area any further.
TRUSTEE DOMINO: Is there a second?
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: Second.
TRUSTEE DOMINO- All in favor?
(ALL AYES).
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Number two, Robert Barratt, P.E. on behalf of
RENEE PONCET requests a Wetland Permit to construct a
1,750sq.ft. Two-story, single-family dwelling with attached
garage, sanitary system on landward side of dwelling, and driveway.
Located: 702 Wiggins Lane, Greenport. SCTM# 1000-35-4-28.36
The LWRP coordinator found this to be consistent.
The Conservation Advisory Council resolved to support this
application.
On the 7th of February, the Trustees visited the site,
noted that it needs Planning and ZBA to look up the permit for
the bulkhead and the survey.
Is there anyone here that wishes to speak regarding this
application?
(Negative response).
Are there any comments from the Board?
(Negative response).
Hearing none, I make a motion to close this hearing.
MR HAGAN: Before we take a vote on that, do you want to make a
comment on this?
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Can I do a brief summary prior to?
MR. HAGAN: Yes.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Thank you The lot in question is currently not
recognized in the Town of Southold as being a legal, buildable
parcel and therefore corrective measures must be taken before an
applicant can make a submission to the Board. Is that
appropriate?
MR. HAGAN: That's enough to make a motion.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I make a motion to close this hearing.
TRUSTEE WILLIAMS- Second.
TRUSTEE DOMINO: All in favor?
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(ALL AYES)
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I make a motion to deny this application
without prejudice due to the legal ramifications of not being a
legal parcel within Southold.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: Second.
TRUSTEE DOMINO: All in favor?
(ALL AYES).
TRUSTEE WILLIAMS: Number three, under Wetland permits, Cole
Environmental Services, Inc., on behalf of OLE JULE DREDGE
COMPANY, LLC, clo MARK DAVIS requests a Wetland Permit to dredge
an approximately .22 acre area of underwater lands within an
existing canal to a depth of-4 MLW; approximately 750-1,000
cubic yards of dredge spoils will be deposited in various bermed
temporary offloading areas on three properties abutting the
canal for a combined total of .04 acre of upland area used for
de-watering of dredge materials; equipment access and staging
areas to be located through the thee upland properties
Located: Canal within James Creek, 1570 Ole Jule Lane, 1700 Ole Jule
Lane, & 1780 Ole Jule Lane, Mattituck. SCTM#'s 1000-122-4-44.8,
1000-122-4-3, 122-4-4, 122-4-5
The LWRP coordinator deemed this to be inconsistent.
In order to comply with Trustee regulations regarding the
spoils being moved to an upland area, although a dewatering and
staging area are shown on the plans, all dredging applications
must demonstrate a specific location for deposit of dredging material.
Also, erosion control measures, all intertidal construction
excavation requires the installation of a silt boom that would
retain all suspended sediments within the immediate project area.
The Conservation Advisory Council voted to support the
application, however requests an identification of the
disposition of spoils as well as an analysis of the spoils.
The Board of Trustees did visit the site on January 9th and
we discussed it in-house on the 7th of February.
At this point I would like to open this up to public
hearing Is there anybody who wishes to speak on behalf of this
application?
MR. COLE: Good evening, my name is Dennis Cole, Cole
Environmental Services, representing Ole Jule Dredge Company,
LLC I'm here to answer any questions you may have.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I think to address the LWRP coordinator we
would need to see in the plans on land a silt fence with
possibly hay bales and then offshore there, silt boom to contain
while the work is commencing.
MR. COLE: That's not a problem.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: A question has just come up. Trustee Krupski
is indicating concerns about placement of dredge spoil. Have you
designated an upland site at this point?
MR. COLE: No, it's to be determined.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER. In the past, the Board has accepted upland
disposal. There is not a history of industrial operations or
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anything that we are particularly concerned about the
characteristics of the spoil. So I open it up, I don't know how
the Board feels, but designating that it going to an upland site --
TRUSTEE WILLIAMS: As long as it is a designated upland site, I
think,that's fine.
Is there anyone else that wishes to speak to this application?
(Negative response).
Any comments from the Board?
(Negative response)
At this point I make a motion to close the public hearing.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH. Second.
TRUSTEE DOMINO: All in favor?
(ALL AYES).
TRUSTEE WILLIAMS: At this point I make a motion to approve the
application with the addition of a silt boom and also a silt
fence with hay bales on the plans, and thereby bringing it into
consistency with the LWRP. That's my motion.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: Second.
TRUSTEE DOMINO: All in favor?
(ALL AYES).
TRUSTEE DOMINO. Number four, McCarthy Management, Inc., on
behalf of TIMOTHY CASAMENTO & KLEO KING request a Wetland Permit
to construct a 28'x46' detached garage.
Located: 2667 Long Creek Drive, Southold. SCTM# 1000-52-9-1 2
The LWRP coordinator found this to be consistent.
The Conservation Advisory Council resolved unanimously to
support this application.
The Trustees did a field inspection on February 7th and the
field notes indicate that it was almost non-jurisdictional and
suggested a non-disturbance buffer.
Is there anyone here to speak to this application?
MR MCCARTHY: Tom McCarthy, McCarthy Management, on behalf of
Tim Casamento and Kleo King. I'm happy to answer any questions.
Just a little bit of a background on this particular lot.
It is a corner lot and the homeowner is desirous of a detached
garage. And with setback restrictions, we met with Michael
Verity of the Building Department and as we know we can't have a
detached structure in the side yard without having a variance,
so we worked out where the yards were, how the garage had to be
situated on the lot and still be compliant with the private
covenants and restrictions that are within the subdivision, and
it really left us with this particular location. And we see it
as somewhat of de minimis impact on the land there. The
subdivision has had 60 some odd acres preserved when the
subdivision was in front of your Board a number of years ago and
in front of the Health Department, New York State DEC and
Planning Board. So with this approved lot, we would ask for
your cooperation for this structure.
TRUSTEE DOMINO: If we could discuss the section for a second.
The non-disturbance buffer. There is a line on the survey, the
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Woychuk land survey, August 2nd, 2017, limits of the tidal
wetlands flagged by Robert Fox, May 30th, looks like 2003. If we
could use that as a starting point and perhaps 50 feet landward
of that, remain as a non-disturbance buffer, it would go a long
way toward keeping this beautiful piece of property
environmentally safe.
MR. MCCARTHY- Understood. So I just uncovered the note here, so
looking at the limits of tidal wetlands delineated by R. Fox on
May 30th, 2003.
TRUSTEE DOMINO: Right, in the rear the property.
MR. MCCARTHY: Yes, we consent to a 50-foot non-disturbance from
that line
TRUSTEE DOMINO. Anyone else wish to speak to this application?
(Negative response).
Any other questions from the Board?
(Negative response).
TRUSTEE DOMINO: Hearing none, I make a motion to close this
hearing.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Second.
TRUSTEE DOMINO: All in favor?
(ALL AYES).
TRUSTEE DOMINO: I'll make a motion to approve this application
as submitted with the understanding that there will be a
non-disturbance zone 50 feet landward from the limits of the
tidal wetlands line delineated by Robert Fox on May 30th, 2003,
shown on the Kenneth Woychuk land survey of August 2, 2017.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: Second.
TRUSTEE DOMINO: Motion made and seconded. All in favor?
(ALL AYES).
MR. MCCARTHY: Thank you. Happy Valentine's Day.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: The next application, number five, Latham
sand & Gravel, Inc. on behalf of BREWERS YACHT YARD AT
GREENPORT, INC. requests a Wetland Permit to re-sheath the
inside of 202 linear feet of existing bulkheading using vinyl
sheathing, and replace fender pilings and backing as necessary;
raise 30' of existing bulkhead 29"to match the height of the
rest of the bulkhead; remove and replace in-place 50' of
bulkhead, and raise the height an additional 29" to match the
height of existing bulkheading.
Located: 2530 Manhasset Avenue, Greenport. SCTM# 1000-43-3-2
This is deemed to be consistent with the LWRP.
The Conservation Advisory Council supports the application
with the recommendation that it be raised no higher than 24 inches.
The LWRP coordinator in his ruling determining it's
consistent indicated there should be a silt boom and silt fence.
And the Board recognizing those facts felt that the
application was straightforward when we inspected in the field.
And we did discern that the height raises apparently for
the seaward section to bring it into consistent elevation with
the existing structures.
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Is there anyone here who wishes to speak on behalf of this
application?
MR. HOCKER: John Hocker, Latham Sand and Gravel, representing
Brewers Yacht Yard. I don't have a real problem The 29 inches
brings it up to the height of the parking lot. They are not
planning on extending that parking area. The wooden retaining
wall that separates the area will stay in place, it will
probably be a picnic table or whatever We'll take the deck out.
It needs to come out for construction anyway. And it won't be
getting replaced. So that's why I included --
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: They are going to continue to have, say
gravel --
MR. HOCKER: It will be non-turf
TRUSTEE BREDMEYER: It will be a non-turf area
MR. HOCKER: I think I drew in there a ten-foot non-turf,
whatever you want. I don't think any of it will be turf. Nobody
will want to mow it. The main reason we are raising it, I don't
know if you guys have the storm photos but you can see the storm
tide come over the top of that wall. It's been washing it out
from the back. The ramps go up like this.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: We saw it.
MR. ROCKER: So if they want 24 inches I don't care It will be
one step down to the picnic area, so.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER. No sense having a trip hazard, so. It's
pretty straightforward. Anyone else here wish to speak to this
application?
(Negative response).
Hearing no one, I make a motion to close the hearing in this
matter.
TRUSTEE WILLIAMS: Second.
TRUSTEE DOMINO: All in favor?
(ALL AYES).
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: I would move to approve this application
with the installation of a silt boom and fencing as necessary
during construction and a stipulation that the picnic area be
non-turf
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Second
TRUSTEE DOMINO: All in favor?
(ALL AYES)
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: Number six, L.K. McLean Associates, P.C. on
behalf of MATTITUCK PARK DISTRICT requests a Wetland Permit to
demolish two buildings (a 575sq.ft. comfort station and a
148sq.ft. shed), and construct a new 167sq ft. comfort station;
connecting new comfort station to upgraded sanitary system; and
a re-vegetation plan using native beach grass species in the
vicinity of the new comfort station and disturbed areas.
Located: Veterans Memorial Park, 11020 & 11280 Great Peconic Bay
Boulevard, Mattituck. SCTM# 1000-126-6-17
The LWRP found this to be consistent.
The Conservation Advisory Council resolved to support this
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application.
The Trustees conducted a field inspection on February 7th,
noting that it is pretty straightforward.
Is there anyone here who wishes to speak regarding this application?
MR. DWYER: Good evening. Chris Dwyer from LK McLean Associates
here to answer any questions that anyone may have.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: Any questions?
(Negative response).
Is there anyone else here who wishes to speak regarding this
application?
(Negative response).
Any questions or comments from the Board?
TRUSTEE DOMINO: One question. The inch-and-a-quarter HDPE pipe
that will go from the macerator, I guess, and pump it up to the septic?
MR. HOCKER: Yes. The only improvements with the sanitary is to
put a new manhole in with the pump The system stays in tact so
no leaching, no new septic. We pretty much utilize everything
that's there.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: So you don't need a county health approval.
MR. HOCKER: No, we are in.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: You are in.
MR. HOCKER: Yes.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: So they'll require typically alarming or
something on that. That's fine. You'll be in for it.
MR. ROCKER: Yes.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: Thank you.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH. Any other questions or comments from the
Board?
(Negative response).
Hearing none, I'll make a motion to close the hearing.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Second.
TRUSTEE DOMINO: All in favor?
(ALL AYES).
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: I make a motion to approve this application.
TRUSTEE WILLIAMS: Second.
TRUSTEE DOMINO: All in favor?
(ALL AYES).
MR. HOCKER: Thank you, all.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI Number seven, Patricia C. Moore, Esq., on
behalf of SHAMGAR CAPITAL, LLC, clo DANIEL P. BUTTAFUOCO, MEMBER
requests a Wetland Permit to construct a 20'x44' infinity edge
swimming pool with an 8'x8' hot tub; a (2,291 sq.ft.) raised
stone pool patio connected to the dwelling; construct an 8'x8.6'
planting bed; install pool drywell for backwash; construct a 23"
high by 57' long retaining wall south of proposed pool and
patio; install 4' high pool enclosure fencing; and install a
line of silt fencing and staked hay bales landward of bulkhead
prior to and during construction. Located: 1165 Kimberly Lane,
Southold. SCTM# 1000-70-13-20.7
The LWRP coordinator found this to be consistent.
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The Conservation Advisory Council resolved to support this
application.
The Trustees visited this site on the 7th of February.
The notes indicate non-consistent outdoor lighting, pool
okay, and to put the outdoor shower which is located by the
retaining wall headed toward the beach on the plans
Is there anyone here that wishes to speak to this
application?
MS. MOORE: Yes. I have been warned that some of you have dates
so therefore I'll be short and sweet. I don't know where the,
you mentioned something about an outdoor shower. If you just
tell me what --
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: There is a walkway going to the beach and there
is a gate at the walkway. It's actually there's a retaining
wall, so there is a walkway going through the retaining wall
going to the beach and there is an outdoor shower right there.
MS. MOORE: There is?
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: It's just a shower head, probably to wash the
sand and salt off quick. If we could just include it on the
plans. There is no problem with it. That would be great.
MS MOORE: So be it. I request to include it. Because you went
that far, I didn't. So can we amend to include that and just, is
that enough? Is that all right?
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Are there any other comments?
(Negative response).
Anyone else here wishing to speak to this application?
(Negative response).
All right, hearing nothing more, I make a motion to close this
hearing.
TRUSTEE WILLIAMS. Second
TRUSTEE DOMINO- All in favor?
(ALL AYES).
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: And I make a motion to approve this application
upon the submission of revised plans which include the shower,
the outdoor shower.
MS MOORE: Can I draw it in your files?
Because maybe somebody can tell me where it was. Because I
don't know which side of the retaining wall.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI. Do we want to see a new printout for legal
purposes?
MR. HAGAN: I'm fine, if the Board is so inclined to accept your
writing in the shower.
MS. MOORE: Fine. Someone will tell Liz where it is.
TRUSTEE WILLIAMS: If you face the water it's on the left side of
the gate.
MS. MOORE: Because there is a retaining wall with the entrance,
so it's on the left-hand side.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: We'll work that out.
MS. MOORE: Okay, that's fine.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: So I made my motion.
TRUSTEE DOMINO: Motion made. Is.there a second?
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TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: Second.
TRUSTEE DOMINO: Motion made and seconded. All in favor?
(ALL AYES).
TRUSTEE WILLIAMS: Number eight, Patricia Moore, Esq., on behalf
of ROBERT RENGIFO & SARA COLLINS request a Wetland Permit to
demolish existing dwelling, wood deck, and abandon/remove
existing sanitary system; construct new dwelling with attached
decks within a 38'x60' footprint; new 1 1 '9"x147' pervious
staircase to ground using thru-flow decking; construct a
19'5"x27'6" pergola structure of roof of dwelling; install new
sanitary system landward of dwelling; install gutters to leaders
to drywells, and in accordance with Chapter 236 of the Town
Code-Stormwater Management; construct new permeable driveway
landward of dwelling; install subsurface water and electric
surfaces; and for the existing 75' wide Redi-Rock block
retaining wall.
Located: 2175 Bay Shore Road, Greenport. SCTM# 1000-53-4-14
The LWRP deemed this to be consistent.
The Conservation Advisory Council voted to support this
application.
The Trustees did an inspection on February 7th. We have
notes in the inspection to check on the permit for the Redi-Rock
wall, approximately move back ten feet.
At this point I would like to open the public hearing. Is
there anybody here who wishes to speak to this application?
MS. MOORE: Patricia Moore on behalf of Rengifo. Mr. and Mrs.
are here. The last people in the room.
TRUSTEE WILLIAMS: I do have one thing to add. We found the
permit for the retaining wall so if you want you can strike the
verbiage from the resolution or you can agree to leave it.
That's up to you.
MS. MOORE: As long as we don't have to move it, we can leave it
in place, we can just include it because it will be in their
name now as permit. Otherwise have I to transfer this permit
into their name So it seems to cover it.
TRUSTEE WILLIAMS: Okay Any questions or comments?
MS. MOORE- No. Again, thank you, we all met at the site. I
think we ALL went over the application pretty carefully. The
wall actually may predate '77 because the DEC thought there
might be non-jurisdiction here since the wall went along the
east back both sides. So I'm actually revising our survey to
include the wall for the DEC. But aside from that, no, unless
you have questions, I'm happy to close the hearing and proceed.
TRUSTEE WILLIAMS: Anybody here wish to speak to this permit?
(Negative response).
Questions or comments from the Board?
(Negative response).
At this point I make a motion to close the public hearing.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: Second.
TRUSTEE DOMINO: All in favor?
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(ALL AYES).
TRUSTEE WILLIAMS: I wish to make a motion to approve this
application as submitted.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER- Second.
TRUSTEE DOMINO: Motion made and seconded. All in favor?
(ALL AYES).
MS. MOORE: Thank you. Have a fun time tonight.
TRUSTEE DOMINO: Number nine, Suffolk Environmental Consulting,
Inc on behalf of PAUL & CAROLYN AZZARITI requests a Wetland
Permit for the as-built reconstruction of the existing dock
assembly measuring ±78' in overall length, consisting of a
4'x48' fixed elevated catwalk with open grate decking and
supported by six (6) 6"x6" posts; a 3'x14' hinged ramp; and a
6'x20' floating dock secured by two (2) 6" diameter pilings in
an "L" configuration.
Located: 1175 Waterview Drive, Southold. SCTM# 1000-78-7-15
The LWRP found this to be inconsistent. The inconsistency
arises from the fact it was built, the structure was built
without Trustee permits.
The Conservation Advisory Council resolved to support this
application.
The Trustees did a field inspection, actually did several
field inspections. The first was on January 9th, the second on
February 7th, when we returned to more accurately measure the
depth of the water since it was covered with snow and ice in
January. The field inspection was done 11:22, which was just a
little after low tide. The Trustees measured exactly two feet of
water at the deepest corner of the float, we noted that it was
an east wind, less than five miles-per-hour. All factors are
important in determining depth of the water at the proposed
dock.
Is there anyone here to speak though this application?
(Negative response).
Any questions or comments from the Board?
(Negative response)
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: Let the record reflect obviously we didn't
hear anything since no one went to the podium to speak.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: With no one here to speak to it, my
sentiments, I would just like to not see the dock go out further
or even as far as it is, being rebuilt without a permit or application.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: I believe the discussion we had at our
work session and the detail of the time that the chairman has
read into the record indicates that this actually would have
been a low tide with favorable conditions when waters would
typically be in the creek, and I was not at the end of the
measuring devices but was it true we were looking at what, less
than 18 inches, 12 inches in one case?
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Depending on where we were on the float, yes.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: On the landward end, yes.
TRUSTEE WILLIAMS: On the landward end, we were about eight to
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ten inches. On the seaward end, we were under two feet.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: At or under, basically.
TRUSTEE DOMINO: Like I said, two feet at the deepest, so. And
two feet is not sufficient.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI It almost seems like an inappropriate spot to
have a motorized vessel attached to a float.
TRUSTEE DOMINO: There is an earlier permit on this property for
a 32-foot catwalk, a 14-foot ramp leading to a 6x20' float. That
would total out to be 48 feet from the structure. 32 feet plus
say ten feet for the ramp and then the six feet for the float.
So it's 48 feet. So I would be in favor of a catwalk, 48-foot
catwalk, no more than 48 feet, with steps down to water, giving
access for a kayak or small boat. I think that's appropriate in
this situation. You cannot go further and get deep water. And
you can't pull it back and get deep water, so.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Because of the code provisions of the pier
line, right?
TRUSTEE DOMINO: That's true.
TRUSTEE WILLIAMS With the addition of removing the ramp, the
float and two piles, everything seaward of the end of the
catwalk should be removed.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: Understood that the existing catwalk then is
the same 48 foot of what prior permitting was and that the
removal seaward would entail removal of those structures as
outlined by Trustee Williams
TRUSTEE WILLIAMS: Yes.
TRUSTEE DOMINO. So remove everything seaward of the catwalk and
steps down to a platform for the kayak.
TRUSTEE WILLIAMS- Do you want those to be hinged steps?
TRUSTEE DOMINO: And see new plans.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Just steps, no lower platform?
TRUSTEE DOMINO: Just steps down.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: Maybe we should entertain a time limit on
removal of the structures.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I think that would be very appropriate. For
spring, or--
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: Definitely
TRUSTEE DOMINO: And they'll have to come in later on to amend it
to get steps.
TRUSTEE WILLIAMS: They'll have to start a new application or
amend this application.
TRUSTEE DOMINO. Anyone else wish to speak to this application?
(Negative response).
Any other comments from the Board?
(Negative response).
Hearing none, I make a motion on close this hearing.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI Second.
TRUSTEE DOMINO: All in favor?
(ALL AYES).
TRUSTEE DOMINO: I make a motion to approve the application with
the following conditions: That all structure beyond the end of
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the 48-foot elevated catwalk be removed And that the pilings,
the float, the ramp, be removed by June 1st.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER. I second the motion.
TRUSTEE DOMINO: Motion made and seconded. All in favor?
(ALL AYES)
Motion to adjourn
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: Motion to adjourn
TRUSTEE DOMINO: Second.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: Second.
TRUSTEE DOMINO: All in favor?
(ALL AYES).
Respectfully submitted by,
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Michael J. Domino, President
Board of Trustees
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