HomeMy WebLinkAbout2002 TO: Town Assessor
FROM: Board of Assessment Review
RE: ORDER FOR CHANGE IN TENTATIVE ASSESSMENT ROLL
DATE: June 18, 2002
The Board of Assessment Review for the Town of Southold, has duly met to hear (
Complaints or grievances on the tentative town assessment roll for the tax year 2002/03,
as prescribed by law. ~�
The Board,having duly convened, has considered each and every complaint or grievance
on the assessments for the tax year indicated, as filed with this Board, as prescribed by
law.
A majority of the Board has determined that all the changes indicated on the attached
page(s)will be made on the assessment roll by the Assessor.
Total number of complaints submitted by Assessor _335
Total number of complaints received on Grievance Day 1
Total number of signed stipulations 27
Total number of correction of errors 84
Total number of complaints reviewed by the Board 447
Total number of reductions in assessment 3
Total number of withdrawals 0
Total number of dismissals 13
Total number of grievances without a change _333
NOW, THEREFORE, the Board of Assessment Review hereby orders the Board of
Assessors to make all changes in assessments as determined by the Board of Assessment
Review on the assessment roll of the Town of Southold, for the tax year 2002/03, in
conformance with this order.
STATE OF NEW YORK )
COUNTY OF SUFFOLK )
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD )
The undersigned, being duly sworn do severally depose
and say that deponents are members of the Board of Assessment
Review; that deponents have read the foregoing and know the
contents thereof; and the matters set forth are true to the
best of the deponents ' knowledge.
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BAR-2 - Page 2 of 2
TO: , Town Clerk
FROM: oard of Assessment Review
RE: REPORT - BOARD OF ASSESSMENT REVIEW - TAX YEAR 22/ 03.
DATE : 9-1-7-0-2--
Attached
-7-O-2--Attached herewith please find for public filing in your office,
complete file covering the public hearing(s ) of the Board of
Assessment Review, together with changes ordered by this Board to
the assessment roll, Assessors ' acknowledgment, etc .
The duties of the Board of Assessment Review for the grievance
period covering the 20bT.�Q3 assessment roll are completed.
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Form BAR-4
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Grievance 2002
1. Bertin , Patrice (appeared inperson) 1001-2-6-36 210 5/21/02 7200 TO 6700
2. Bertin , Patrice 1001-2-6-36 210 5/21/02 ""
3. Kulsziski , Paul 1001-4-7-16 210 5/10/02 DENIED
4. Field , Frank A., Realty Inc. 1001-4-1-13 210 5/10/02 DENIED
5. Island Health Project, Inc. 6-8-3.3 210 5/20/02 DENIED
6. Shillo, Thomas 9-10-14 210 5/10/02 DENIED
7. Pirates Cove Marina 10-3-22.1 220 5/10/02 DENIED
8. Deconi ilio ,Vincent& Rosellen 14-2-3.10 210 5/17/02 DENIED
9. Nicolaides , Nicholas & O'Keefe 15-3-44 210 5/10/02 DENIED
10. Prichard , Robert&Jennifer 15-5-24.3 210 5/10/02 DENIED
11. Ser entakis , lakovos &Georgia 15.-6-21 210 5/21/02 DENIED
12. Gontzes ,William &Artemis 21-4-1.0 210 5/17/02 DENIED
13. Misthos , George & Helen 30-2-123 210 5/10/02 DENIED
14. 70 Marion Associates 30-3-2 210 5/15/02 DENIED
15. 70 Marion Associates 30-3-4 210 5/15/02 DENIED
16. Tolos , Patroula&George 30-3-5 210 5/21/02 DENIED
17. 70 Marion Associates 30-3-6 210 5/15/02 DENIED
18. 70 Marion Associates 30-3-9 210 5/15/02 DENIED
19. 70 Marion Associates 30-3-11 210 5/15/02 DENIED
20. 70 Marion Associates 30-3-12 210 5/15/02 DENIED
21. Phili ou , Harry& Irene 31-2-7 210 5/10/02 DENIED
22. Corrigan , Eugene 31-6-5.2 210 5/17/02 DENIED
23. Stratakis , Christ& Mary 33-4-5 210 5/10/02 DENIED
24. Karavas , Constantinos &Anastasia 33-4-39 210 5/10/02 DENIED
25. S ahidakis , Demetrios &Kormas loani 34-1-2.1 210 5/10/02 DENIED
26. Loeb , Paul 34-1-10 230 5/21/02 DENIED
27. McIntosh , Frank Justin &Anderson MA 35-1-27.2 210 5/17/02 DENIED
28. Jones , Alexandra 35-4-13 210 5/10/02 DENIED
29. Goebel , Steven 35-8-5.5 210 5/17/02 9700 TO 8400
30. Silver Sands Motel, Inc. 47-2-12 210 5/7/02 DENIED
31. Silver Sands Motel, Inc. 47-2-15 210 5/7/02 DENIED
32. Garrido , Mario 48-1-28 210 5/21/02 DENIED
33. Vanbolt,Alice 48-2-29 210 5/17/02 DENIED
34. Field , Frank , Realty Inc. 48-3-20.1 210 5/10/02 DENIED
35. Brother , Michele 50-3-15.1 260 5/21/02 DENIED
36. Ri as , An elo 50-4-2.4 210 5/10/02 DENIED
37. Pembroke , Dennis 53-4-44.10 210 5/17/02 DENIED
38. Masaitis , Kathleen 53-4-44.28 210 5/17/02 DENIED
39. Bondarchuck , Harry& Mary Ellen 53.-4-44.32 210 5/21/02 DENIED
40. Brittman , Seymour&Adelaide 53-5-4 210 5/10/02 DENIED
41. Mousiades , Christos 54-5-46.2 210 5/10/02 DENIED
42. Buchner, Sophia & Eleni 55-3-11 210 5/17/02 DENIED
43. Mullen , Richard III 55-4-22 210 5/10/02 DENIED
44. Fatimi , Zafar Khem 59-1-6 210 5/17/02 DENIED
45. Braslow,, Robert N. 59-4-5.13 210 5/13/02 DENIED
46. Brock , Earl & Margie 59-9-26.12 210 5/10/02 DENIED
47. Jimbo Realty Corp. 70-2-15 210 5/17/02 DENIED
48. Nahas , Pauline 70-3-17 210 5/10/02 DENIED
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49. Jakacic , Mladen & Gail 70-4-30 210 5/17/02 DENIED
50. Ta los , Joan 70-8-35 210 5/10/02 DENIED
51. Skrezec, Edward 70-9-21 210 5/17/02 DENIED
52. Benic , Sime 70-9-56 210 5/17/02 DENIED
53. Pavlica , Jovanka & Dusan 70-10-32.0 210 5/17/02 DENIED
54. McMahon , Marlene 70-10-54 210 5/17/02 DENIED
55. Be ora , Frank Jr. 70-11-15 210 5/10/02 DENIED
56. Stickle , Robert& Emmerence 71-2-4 210 5/17/02 DENIED
57. Aebisher,, Peter& Mildred 73-4-2.1 210 5/10/02 DENIED
58. Pellegrini , Robert& Rita & Pellegrini 75-2-16.1 210 5/7/02 DENIED
Holdings
59. Be lerian , Edward &Therese 75-3-15 210 5/10/02 DENIED
60. Fristachi , Joseph &Angela 75-6-9.5 210 5/10/02 DENIED
61. Milowski , Christopher 76-2-24 210 5/17/02 DENIED
62. Kaelin , Joy A. 78-1-16 210 5/17/02 DENIED
63. Colavito , Michael &Joan 78-4-44.2 210 5/10/02 DENIED
64. Loeffler, Elizabeth 79-3-40 210 5/10/02 DENIED
65. Carey, Lois 79-3-41 210 5/17/02 DENIED
66. Lekich , Ivo & Rosa 79-4-17.4 210 5/10/02 DENIED
67. Lastoria , Michael & Miriam 79-4-33 210 5/17/02 DENIED
68. Bartolomeo , Michael & Robin 79-4-46 210 5/17/02 DENIED
69. Mohr, Christopher&Gianfrancesco Sh 79-6-4.4 210 5/17/02 DENIED
70. Denker,, Christopher& Margaret 79-6-32.1 210 5/10/02 DENIED
71. Kentrotas , Steven 79-7-36 210 5/17/02 DENIED
72. Rum ler, John III &Sharon 79-7-40.3 210 5/17/02 DENIED
73. Pellegrini Peconic, LLC 86-1-9.1 210 5/7/02 DENIED
74. Vaccari , Lawrence& Christine 86.-1-10.10 210 5/21/02 DENIED
75. Dell , Ma lee 88-1-6 210 5/10/02 DENIED
76. Browne , Helen 88-3-1 210 5/10/02 DENIED
77. Britvan , Max& Marilyn 88-4-52 210 5/17/02 DENIED
78. Dickerson , Kenneth Lee, Jr. 97.-3-16 210 5/21/02 DENIED
79. Leen , Michelle&John 97-3-20.3 210 5/17/02 DENIED
80. Imbriano , Anthony97-5-7 210 5/10/02 DENIED
81. Schmidt , John & Margaret 97-7-26.4 210 5/17/02 DENIED
82. Horton , Richard L. &wf. 98-1-26 210 5/15/02 DENIED
83. Di ons , James Jr. 100-1-31 210 5/10/02 7900 TO 7200
84. Ovisinak , Barney& Dorothy 101-2-17 210 5/17/02 DENIED
85. Krauza , Stephen & Lynne 103-4-30 210 5/10/02 DENIED
86. Deloiselle , Kenneth & Nancy 103-9-12 210 5/10/02 DENIED
87. Rafferty, Gerald & Louise 104-3-16.1 210 5/21/02 DENIED
88. Fran as , Emanuel 106-2-31 210 5/10/02 DENIED
89. Stavrinos , James 106-2-34 210 5/17/02 DENIED
90. Stavrinos , James 106-2-41 210 5/17/02 DENIED
91. Philli ou , Helen 106-2-51 210 5/10/02 DENIED
92. Pertsinides , Peggy 106.-7-1.0 210 5/21/02 DENIED
93. Zachariadis , George 106-7-5 210 5/10/02 DENIED
94. Pappas , John G. &Katina 106-7-36 210 5/17/02 DENIED
95. Pantelis , Siriodis 106-9-7.10 210 5/6/02 DENIED
96. Can ero , Thomas & Evelyn 106-10-10 210 5/10/02 DENIED
97. Cruise , Margaret 107-2-2.6 210 5/17/02 DENIED
98. Piacente , Keith & Christine 107-4-2.5 210 5/10/02 DENIED
99. Rehberg , Linda 107-6-20 210 5/17/02 DENIED
100. Burns , William & Patricia 108-3-8.8 210 5/10/02 DENIED
101. Boucher, Thomas &Ann Molloy 109-5-14.6 210 5/20/02 DENIED
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102. Brantuk , Joseph G. 111-14-5.4 210 5/13/02 DENIED
103. Mouz kin , Leonid 113.-5-7 210 5/21/02 DENIED
104. Jacobs , James Jr. &Sharon 113.-12-10.2 210 5/21/02 DENIED
105. Raacke , Barbara 113-13-18 210 5/17/02 DENIED
106. Blessin er , Lawrence W. 114-7-10.2 210 5/6/02 DENIED
107. Gerber, Charles & Linda 115-4-15 210 5/17/02 DENIED
108. Koehler , Frederick W., Jr. 117-3-6 210 5/15/02 DENIED
109. Ovcharoff, Stefan &Olga 117-4-11 210 5/10/02 DENIED
110. DeGaudenzi , Carlo &Anna 122-4-26.1 210 5/17/02 DENIED
111. Stron 's Marine, Inc. 122-9-3 210 5/10/02 DENIED
112. Audioun , Richard &Anna 123-1-3.2 210 5/17/02 DENIED
113. Stubelek , Brian 123-2-35 210 5/17/02 DENIED
114. Clarke , Oconnor& Dorothea 126-8-25 210 5/17/02 DENIED
115. Egan , William & Florinia 127-8-8.1 210 5/10/02 DENIED
116. McKee , Paul &Lucille 129-1-8 210 5/10/02 DENIED
117. Pellegrini , Robert& Rita 137-3-4 210 5/7/02 DENIED
118. Roschelle , Ira 144-2-22 210 5/17/02 DENIED
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Grievance 2002
Commercial
119. Airam Enterpnses Inc. 1000-87-6-12.1 311 05/15/02 DENIED
120. Aliano,Nicholas 1000-46-1-2.1 330 05/15/02 DENIED
121. Aliano,Nicholas 1000-59-9-30.5 311 05/15/02 DENIED
122. Aliano,Nicholas 1000-74-4-4.1 311 05/15/02 DENIED
123. Aliano,Nicholas 1000-74-4-4.2 311 05/15/02 DENIED
124. Aliano,Nicholas 1000-74-4-4.3 311 05/15/02 DENIED
125. Aliano,Nicholas 1000-74-4-4.4 311 05/15/02 DENIED
126. Aliano,Nicholas 1000-74-4-4.5 311 05/15/02 DENIED
127. 1 Aliano,Nicholas 1000-74-4-4.6 311 05/15/02 DENIED
128. Aliano,Nicholas 1000-74-4-4.7 311 05/15/02 DENIED `^
129. Aliano,Nicholas 1000-74-4-4.8 311 05/15/02 DENIED 1
130. Aliano,Nicholas 1000-102-3-1 480 05/15/02 DENIED
131. Bank of New York,The 1001-4-10-5 484 05/17/02 DENIED
132. Beachcomber Motel,The 1000-83-2-1 415 05/15/02 DENIED
133. Beachcomber Motel,The 1000-83-2-2 554 05/15/02 DENIED
134. Blessinger,Lawrence W 1000-114-7-10.8 311 05/06/02 DENIED
135. Bloethe,William R 1000-6-2-22.5 481 05/07/02 DISMISSED
136. Bloethe,William R 1000-6-7-5 311 05/07/02 DISMISSED
137. Bostwick Bay Co. 1000-45-6-4 431 05/10/02 DENIED
138. Brown,Robert 1000-45-6-6 449 05/10/02 DENIED
139. Burt's Reliable Fuel 1001-6-6-1 441 05/10/02 DENIED
140. Costello,John&Ano. 1001-2-3-13.1 570 05/10/02 DENIED
141. Cove at Southold,The 1000-87.1-1-1 411 05/13/02 DENIED
142. Cove at Southold,The 1000-87.1-1-2 411 05/13/02 DENIED
143. Cove at Southold,The 1000-87 1-1-3 411 05/13/02 DENIED
144. Cove at Southold,The 1000-87.1-1-4 411 05/13/02 DENIED
145. Cove at Southold,The 1000-87.1-1-5 411 05/13/02 DENIED
146. Cove at Southold,The 1000-87.1-1-6 411 05/13/02 DENIED
147. Cove at Southold,The 1000-87.1-1-7 411 05/13/02 DENIED
148. Cove at Southold,The 1000-87.1-1-8 411 05/13/02 DENIED
149. Cove at Southold,The 1000-87.1-1-9 411 05/13/02 DENIED
150. Cove at Southold,The 1000-87 1-1-10 411 05/13/02 DENIED
151. Cove at Southold,The 1000-87.1-1-11 411 05/13/02 DENIED
152. Cove at Southold,The 1000-87.1-1-12 411 05/13/02 DENIED
153. Cove at Southold,The 1000-87.1-1-13 411 05/13/02 DENIED
154. Cove at Southold,The 1000-87.1-1-14 411 05/13/02 DENIED
155. Cove at Southold,The 1000-87.1-1-15 411 05/13/02 DENIED
156. 1 Cove at Southold,The 1000-87.1-1-16 411 05/13/02 DENIED
157. Cove at Southold,The 1000-87.1-1-17 411 05/13/02 DENIED
158. Cove at Southold,The 1000-87 1-1-18 411 05/13/02 DENIED
159. Cove at Southold,The 1000-87.1-1-19 411 05/13/02 DENIED
160. Cove at Southold,The 1000-87.1-1-20 411 05/13/02 DENIED
161. Cove at Southold,The 1000-87.1-1-21 411 05/13/02 DENIED
162. Cove at Southold,The 1000-87.1-1-22 411 05/13/02 DENIED
163. Cove at Southold,The 1000-87.1-1-23 411 05/13/02 DENIED
164. Cove at Southold,The 1000-87.1-1-24 411 05/13/02 DENIED
165. Cove at Southold,The 1000-87.1-1-25 411 05/13/02 DENIED
166. Cove at Southold,The 1000-87.1-1-26 411 05/13/02 DENIED
167. Cove at Southold,The 1000-87.1-1-27 411 05/13/02 DENIED
168. Cove at Southold,The 1000-87 1-1-28 411 05/13/02 DENIED
169. Cove at Southold,The 1000-87.1-1-29 411 05/13/02 DENIED
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170. Cove at Southold,The 1000-87.1-1-30 411 05/13/02 DENIED
171. Cove at Southold,The 1000-87.1-1-31 411 05/13/02 DENIED
172. Cove at Southold,The 1000-87.1-1-32 411 05/13/02 DENIED
173. Cove at Southold,The 1000-87.1-1-33 411 05/13/02 DENIED
174. Cozy Corp.79 1000-60-2-4 483 05/10/02 DENIED
175. Cozy Corp.79 1000-70-2-11 485 05/10/02 DENIED
176. CSC Acquisition NY Inc. 1000-52-5-59.5 449 05/06/02 DENIED
177. Cutcho Corp. 1000-60-2-3.1 438 05/07/02 DENIED
178. Cutchogue Harbor Marina Inc. 1000-110-1-12 570 05/07/02 DENIED
179. Dank,Leonard&Beryl 1000-97-1-1 120 05/10/02 DENIED
180. DeFriest,Steven 1000-59-10-2 129 05/17/02 DISMISSED
181. FHV,LLC 1000-61-1-13.1 452 05/15/02 DENIED
182. FHV,LLC 633 North 1000-59-9-30.4 484 05/15/02 DENIED
Management LLC
183. Fish Express Corp. 1001-3-4-31 330 05/10/02 DENIED
184. Fish Express Corp. 1001-3-5-16.3 484 05/10/02 DENIED
185. Fish Express Corp. 1001-3-5-16.4 449 05/10/02 DENIED
186. Fish Express Corp. 1001-3-5-16.5 449 05/10/02 DENIED
187. G J C Leasing Corp. 1001-6-5-21 449 05/10/02 DENIED
188. G J C Partnership 1001-6-5-9 449 05/10/02 DENIED
189. Genovese Drug Stores Inc, 1000-142-1-26 452 05/15/02 DENIED
190. Getty Petroleum Marketing Inc. 1001-4-8-35 432 05/15/02 DENIED
191. Gray,James J&Peter S 1000-114-12-2 484 05/07/02 DENIED
192. Greenport Food 1001-4-8-35 432 05/10/02 DENIED
193. Greenporter Motel 1001-4-8-29 312 05/10/02 DENIED
194. Greenporter Motel 1001-4-8-30 311 05/10/02 DENIED
195. Greenporter Motel 1001-4-8-31 415 05/10/02 DENIED
196. Greenport Yacht&Shipbldg.Co 1 1001-5-3-10 448 05/10/02 DENIED
197. Gustayson,Troy&Joan 1000-122-6-29.1 464 05/10/02 DENIED
198. Hardy,Joseph&Betty 1000-114-11-5 485 05/10/02 DENIED
199. Heaney,Robert 1000-35-2-8 423 05/10/02 DENIED
200. Imbriano,Anthony 1000-97-5-6 120 05/10/02 DENIED
201. Jodan Holding Corp. 1000-122-7-6.8 465 05/10/02 DENIED
202 Junge,Arthur 1000-96-1-19.1 440 05/17/02 DENIED
203. Kaehn,Daniel&Patricia 1000-97-5-3 432 05/10/02 DENIED
204. Kaelm,Daniel&Patricia 1000-97-5-4.2 455 05/10/02 DENIED
205. Keyspan Gas East Corporation 1000-120-1-1.1 817 05/20/02 DENIED
206. King Kullen Grocery Co.Inc. 1000-97-5-12 452 05/15/02 DENIED
207. Kohl,Patricia M& 1001-3-1-1 448 05/17/02 DENIED
Wexler,Donna
208. Kohl,Patricia M& 1000-36-1-1 570 05/17/02 DENIED
Wexler,Donna
209. L&R Vineyards Association 1000-101-1-4.1 120 05/07/02 DENIED
210. 1 L&R Vineyards Association 1000-101-1-5.2 152 05/07/02 DENIED
211. Lamonte,Bobbi 1000-35-1-21 421 05/20/02 DENIED
212. Leon Petroleum LLC 1000-74-4-7.1 432 05/15/02 DENIED
213. Leon Petroleum LLC 1000-115-3-9 432 05/15/02 DENIED
214. Lewis Family Properties Ptr.Ltd. 1000-48-2-44.1 440 05/10/02 DENIED
215. Lieb Vineyards LLC 1000-84-1-4.4 120 05/21/02 DENIED
216. Lizewski,Joseph J 1000-102-2-12.1 480 05/07/02 DENIED
217. Mamtree Corp./Turturro,Joan 1000-18-6-10 418 05/21/02 DENIED
218. Maiorana,Aldo 1001-5-4-17 481 05/15/02 DENIED
219. Mandel Family Corp. 1001-4-7-12 481 05/10/02 DENIED
220. Maritime Funding Group,Ltd. 1001-5-3-7 449 05/10/02 DENIED
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221. Marlake Islip Co LLC 1000-73-3-1.1 120 05/07/02 DENIED
222. Marlake Islip Co.LLC 1000-84-2-4.1 120 05/07/02 DENIED
223. Mat-A-Mar Marina Inc. 1000-114-3-1 570 05/10/02 DENIED
224. Mattituck Holding Co.Inc. 1000-106-6-13.3 570 05/21/02 DISMISSED
225. Mattituck Realty Associates 1000-143-2-2 311 05/10/02 DISMISSED
226. Mattituck Realty Associates 1000-143-2-27.1 485 05/10/02 DENIED
227. Mattituck Realty Associates 1000-143-2-27.1 485 05/10/02 DISMISSED
228. Mattituck Realty Associates 1000-143-2-28.1 692 05/10/02 DISMISSED
229. Mattituck Realty Associates 1000-143-2-4 311 05/10/02 DISMISSED
230. Middle Road Shopping Center Inc 1000-121-2-1 485 05/15/02 DENIED
231. Middle Road Shopping Center Inc 1000-121-2-1 485 05/10/02 DENIED
232. Mooney,Maureen M 1000-122-3-5.1 484 05/17/02 DENIED
233. NLS Company 1000-97-5-12 452 05/10/02 DENIED
234. Nofo Associates 1000-125-1-14 632 05/10/02 DENIED
235. North Fork Bank 1001-4-10-10.1 461 05/07/02 DENIED
236. North Fork Bank 1000-61-2-12.2 460 05/07/02 DENIED
237. North Fork Bank 1000-102-6-13.1 463 05/07/02 DENIED
238. North Fork Bank 1000-122-6-22.1 463 05/07/02 DENIED
239. North Fork Bank 1000-141-3-30 311 05/07/02 DENIED
240. North Fork Bank 1000-141-4-2 311 05/07/02 DENIED
241. North Fork Bank 1000-141-4-3 330 05/07/02 DENIED
242. North Fork Bank 1000-141-4-6.-1 463 05/07/02 DENIED
243. North Fork Prof.Realty Assoc. 1000-63-1-19 465 05/07/02 DENIED
244. Ovsianik,Allen 1000-97-2-15 432 05/10/02 DENIED
245. Oyster Point Condominium 1001-7.1-1-1 thru 1001-7.1-1-34 411 05/10/02 DENIED
246. Peconic Homes Corp. 1000-121-3-7.4 120 05/10/02 DENIED
247. Pellegrini Holdings LLC 1000-109-1-8.7 120 05/07/02 DENIED
248. Pellegrim Peconic LLC 1000-86-1-9.3 129 05/07/02 DENIED
249. Pellegrini Robert&Rita J& 1000-69-5-19 129 05/07/02 DENIED
Pellegrini Holdings LLC
250. Pharr,Walter N Jr. 1000-59-9-30.4 484 05/10/02 DENIED
251. Pipes Cove Condominium 1001-7-1-16.2 411 05/15/02 DENIED
252. Pipes Cove Condominium 1001-7-1-16 3 411 05/15/02 DENIED
253. Pipes Cove Condominium 1001-7-1-16.4 411 05/15/02 DENIED
254. Pipes Cove Condominium 1001-7-1-16.5 411 05/15/02 DENIED
255. Pipes Cove Condominium 1000-49-1-25.2 411 05/15/02 DENIED
256. Pipes Cove Condominium 1000-49-1-25.3 411 05/15/02 DENIED
257. Pipes Cove Condominium 1000-49-1-25.4 411 05/15/02 DENIED
258. Pipes Cove Condominium 1000-49-1-25.5 411 05/15/02 DENIED
259 Pipes Cove Condominium 1000-49-1-25.6 411 05/15/02 DENIED
260 Pirates Cove Marine 1000-6-7-13 449 05/10/02 DISMISSED
261. Pirates Cove Marine 1000-10-3-22.2 570 05/10/02 DISMISSED
262. Pirrera,Anthony 1000-55-2-20 485 05/15/02 DENIED
263. Pierrra,Anthony 1000-55-2-21 330 05/15/02 DENIED
264. Premium Holdings LLC 100-121-6-1 449 05/21/02 DENIED
265. Preston, S T&Son Inc. 1001-4-10-1 481 05/10/02 DENIED
266. Research Charters Inc. 1001-5-3-8 448 05/10/02 DENIED
267. Rizzo,Joann 1000-55-5-11 484 05/10/02 DENIED
268. Romanelli Realty 1000-60-1-6 441 05/15/02 DENIED
269. Schoenhaar,Roy 1000-56-7-2 421 05/10/02 DENIED
270. Sea Breeze Village Condominium 1000-44.1-1-1 411 05/15/02 DENIED
271. Sea Breeze Village Condominium 1000-44 1-1-2 411 05/15/02 DENIED
272. Sea Breeze Village Condominium 1000-44 1-1-3 411 05/15/02 DENIED
273. Sea Breeze Village Condominium 1000-44.1-1-4 411 05/15/02 DENIED
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274 Sea Breeze Village Condominium 1000-44.1-1-5 411 05/15/02 DENIED
275. Sea Breeze Village Condominium 1000-44.1-1-6 411 05/15/02 DENIED
276. Sea Breeze Village Condominium 1000-44.1-1-7 411 05/15/02 DENIED
277. Sea Breeze Village Condominium 1000-44.1-1-8 411 05/15/02 DENIED
278. Sea Breeze Village Condominium 1000-44.1-1-9 411 05/15/02 DENIED
279. Sea Breeze Village Condominium 1000-44.1-1-10 411 05/15/02 DENIED
280. Sea Breeze Village Condominium 1000-44.1-1-11 411 05/15/02 DENIED
281. Sea Breeze Village Condominium 1000-44.1-1-12 411 05/15/02 DENIED
282. Sea Breeze Village Condominium 1000-44.1-1-13 411 05/15/02 DENIED
283. Sea Breeze Village Condominium 1000-44.1-1-14 411 05/15/02 DENIED
284. Sea Breeze Village Condominium 1000-44.1-1-15 411 05/15/02 DENIED
285. Sea Breeze Village Condominium 1000-44.1-1-16 411 05/15/02 DENIED
286. Silver Sands Motel Inc. 1000-45-6-1 311 05/07/02 DENIED
287. Silver Sands Motel Inc. 1000-45-6-2 464 05/07/02 DENIED
288. Silver Sands Motel Inc. 1000-45-6-8 323 05/07/02 DENIED
289. Silver Sands Motel Inc. 1000-47-2-1 311 05/07/02 DENIED
290. Silver Sands Motel Inc. 1000-47-2-8 311 05/07/02 DENIED
291. Silver Sands Motel Inc. 1000-47-2-9 415 05/07/02 DENIED
292. Silver Sands Motel Inc. 1000-47-2-11 415 05/07/02 DENIED
293. Silver Sands Motel Inc. 1000-47-2-13 415 05/07/02 DENIED
294. Silver Sands Motel Inc. 1000-47-2-14 417 05/07/02 DENIED
295. Smith,William 1000-102-6-18.1 421 05/10/02 DENIED
296. Snargate Dev. Co. of Grpt.Ltd. 1001-4-9-23.4 481 05/07/02 DISMISSED
297. Spanos,George 1000-31-8-25 417 05/10/02 DENIED
298. Spanos,G Grpt.Services Sta.Inc. 1000-34-3-22 432 05/10/02 DENIED
299. VOID
300. Sterlmgton Commons Ltd. 1001-6-2-23.5 452 05/15/02 DENIED
301. Strong's Marine Inc. 1000-122-4-44.2 323 05/10/02 DENIED
302. Strong's Marine Inc. 1000-122-9-6.2 570 05/10/02 DENIED
303. Suffolk Bancorp&Suffolk 1000-97-5-12 452 05/0602 DENIED
County National Bank
304. Suffolk Bancorp&Suffolk 1000-143-3-4.2 462 05/06/02 DENIED
County National Bank
305. T J S Enterprises Inc. 1000-12-1-3 449 05/10/02 DISMISSED
306. Terranova, Giacomo& 1000-121-2-1 DISMISSED
Guvenc,Berna
307. Townsend Manor Inn Inc. 1001-2-3-9 415 05/10/02 DENIED
308. Townsend Manor Inn Inc. 1001-2-3-10 414 05/10/02 DENIED
309. WMS Realty Inc. 1000-97-5-4 7 452 05/13/02 DENIED
310. Weiss,Russell 1000-100-2-5.2 473 05/05/02 DENIED
311. Weiss,Russell 1000-100-5-5.3 314 05/15/02 DENIED
312. Wickham,Jay Parker 1000-123-7-3 313 05/10/02 DENIED
313. Wolff,Kate 1001-5-4-29 481 05/10/02 DENIED
314. Village of Greenport 1001-2-1-21 1 830 05/07/02 DENIED
315. Village of Greenport 1001-4-6-32 483 05/07/02 DENIED
316. Village of Greenport 1001-5-4-40.2 448 05/07/02 DENIED
317 Vitale,John 1001-5-4-33.1 481 05/15/02 DENIED
318. VOID
319 VOID
320, Zervos, Constantinos 1001-4-10-24 481 05/10/02 DENIED
321. Zorn,Bobbi 1000-35-1-22 421 05/20/02 DENIED
322 7-Eleven Inc 1000-46-1-2 2 450 05/17/02 DENIED
323 7-Eleven Inc. 1000-62-3-37 484 05/17/02 DENIED
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324. 7-Eleven Inc. 1000-102-5-24 484 05/17/02 DENIED
325. 70 Marion Associates 1000-21-6-1 311 05/15/02 DENIED
326. 70 Marion Associates 1000-21-6-2 311 05/15/02 DENIED
327. 70 Manon Associates 1000-21-6-3 j 311 05/15/02 DENIED
328. 70 Marion Associates 1000-21-6-4 311 05/15/02 DENIED
329. 70 Manon Associates 1000-21-6-5 311 05/15/02 DENIED
330. 70 Marion Associates 1000-21-6-6 311 05/15/02 DENIED
331. 70 Marion Associates 1000-21-6-7 311 05/15/02 DENIED
332. 70 Marion Associates 1000-21-6-8 311 05/15/02 DENIED
333. 235 Mill Street Inc. 1001-4-9-7 454 05/07/02 DENIED
334. 372 Jericho Corporation 1000-84-1-26.3 449 05/17/02 DENIED
335. 372 Jericho Corp. 1000-84-1-26.3 449 05/20/02 DENIED
336. 808 Realty Corp. 1000-102-5-26 432 05/15/02 DENIED
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� Southold Town Hall,53095 Route 25
Robert I. Scott Jr., Chairman �� Gyp P.O. Box 1179
Scott A. Russell, Assessor y = Southold, NY 11971-0959
Darline J. Duffy, Assessor Fax: (631)765-1356
Telephone: (631)765-1937
BOARD OF ASSESSORS
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
BOARD OF ASSESSMENT REVIEW
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
53095 MAIN ROAD
SOUTHOLD, NY 11971
TRANSCRIPT OF HEARINGS
GRIEVANCE DAY
MAY 215 2002
Chairman Jonathan,Wiggins4eO ed the meeting in session at 9:09 A.M.
Present were: -
Board of Assessment Review: Jonathan Wiggins, Chairman; Phyllis
Atkinson, Member; Jess Wolf, Member; Gerry Schultheis, Member; Tom
Ryan, Member.
Board of Assessors: Robert I. Scott, Jr., Chairman; Scott A. Russell; Darline
J. Duffy
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Thank You•We're opening the official grievance day.This is the board n.To my
JONATHAN WIGGINS. Chairman.To my right is Phyllis Atkinson,Tom Ryan.
assessment review.I'm Jonathan Wiggins, ase the assessors,Bob Scott,Scott Russell,ranine Duffy.
en.Present your grievances everybody.
left,Gerry Schultheis,Jess is no With us today
Today is May 21S`,2002•It is now 9:09.This is officially op
DARLINE DUFFY:We have to be sworn.
whole truth,and nothing but the
JONATHAN WIGGINS:Oh,Ok,w
truth,so help you God?
e would like to swear in the assessors.
Do you swear to tell the whole truth,the
SCOTT RUSSELL:Yes,we do.
JONATHAN WIGGINS.State Your name please.
SCOTT RUSSELL: Scott A.Russell
ROBERT SCOTT:Robert 1.Scott,Jr.
DARLINE DTHFY:Darline J.Duffy to date
Your ability,you will provide us with all the most P be
OK,to the best of y Thank you very much;please
JONATHAN WIG e as we can conduct this me
eting•
information and as honestly and fairly
seated.
BOB SCOTT:
I'll bring the applications in.
PHYLLIS ATKINSON.bet's do something.I brought my New York Times.
`t PHYLLIS ATKINSON:What's the tax map number?
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JONATHAN WIGGINS:2-6-36 closer to Broad.
pgyLLIS ATKINSON:It's one back from Broad.Between Broad and No ,
JONATHAN WIGGINS:Is that the one with the double lot?
Is that still a two family Bob?
BOB SCOTT:I'd rather not say anything until he comes in.
PHYLLIS ATKINSON:Can You picture where it is?
TOM RYAN:Not really. u picture where it is?
PHYLLIS ATKINSON-.By Porky's,it forks off;this is where it forks off....Can you
And opposite that is Broad.
JESS WOLF:What's the tax map number?
JONATHAN WIGGINS:It's 1001-2-6-36.
NATHAN WIGGINS: $ 155,000.They bought the property in April of 94.
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JESS WOLF:Is it vacant? �Greenport.They paid 155 for it.
WIGGINS:No,it's a double lot.It's a wonderful property on it?
JONATHAN We'll listen to her argument.And how much is the RAR
That was 8 years ago,
PHYLLIS ATKINSON:I'm coming out with 330. If you take the 7200 (the assessed value)and you divide
it by the residential assessment rate(2.18 percent),you come up with 330. So that's what the 7200 value-
represents-the market value...I still think using that formula is not as accurate as it was when the market
was relatively flat...
JONATHAN WIGGINS:Well,it's sort of similar enough to the one that recently sold for 390 on the next
block.The one that Stephen Bull bought on the corner of first and Center Street.
JONATHAN WIGGINS: We have your application I believe,we'd like to swear you in.
JESS WOLF:Mr.Bertin.Do you solemnly swear that the information you're about to give us will be given
accurately and to the best of your ability?
PATRICE BERTIN:Yes,of course.
JESS WOLF:Please sit down.
JONATHAN WIGGINS: OK,would you like to state your name?
PATRICE BERTIN:Patrice Bertin.
JONATHAN WIGGINS:Good Morning.
JONATHAN WIGGINS:Ok,Jess would like to swear you in.
JESS WOLF:I just did.
PHYLLIS ATKINSON:He already did.
JONATHAN WIGGINS:OK,and you would like to contest your taxes.
PATRICE BERTIN:Yes,because I think they're extremely exaggerated.And also the house is not even
completed inside,it's not even possible to live in a normal manner because the kitchen is not done,the
bathrooms are unfinished,I have documentation for those and everything and you are even welcome to
come and see it.Like I invited last year,Mr.Scott,and he thought I was putting molding,removing paint,
because there was a board of health,gave me a list of things I have to do.The house was rented to foster
children and they were about 10.One of them had lead poisoning so the board of health came into the
ruling and made a list of the thing,the seal,the floors,the windows,everything had to be stripped.I'm an
artist.I suggest we explain the reason why I did that project and forgive my English.I'm not an American
Citizen.
PHYLLIS ATKINSON:I can understand.
PATRICE BERTIN: I'm a little nervous to speak in front of a group of people;I'm not familiar to talk to a
public place.I'm an emotional person.I'm an artist,I do a lot of work myself: refinishing,scraping and I'm
also an interior decorator trained in France.In New York I do conservation of paintings.I'm use to work on
minor details. I did work since 1970. I didn't bring my diplomas because I don't want to bore you.
JONATHAN WIGGINS: Do you have photographs of the building as it is?
PATRICE BERTIN: Yes,I took some pictures this weekend, I thought maybe I could take actions of This
is the side of the house.
JONATHAN WIGGINS:Have you removed all the lead that needed to be removed?
burning it off with] a heat gun.I put to get some help
PATRICE BERTIN:Yes,almost everything.We are[
because it's basically ten hours for the frame of a door. you're going
JONAT
IIAN WIGGINS•That's a lot of work.I live a block away from you and I know what y
through with that.
DESS WOLF:Do you have any pictures of the kitchen or the bath7 for about
corrin .It's very difficult.That's the entrance of the
RICE BERTIN:This is the kitchen right I had some ends This is the burner,which we've been storing
PAT
2-3 months.Even this weekend
have e two bathrooms,one up and one down.
kitchen.The bathroom upstairs.
JONATHAN WIGGINS: And the downstairs bathroom is finished?
It's almost finished.And the steps which isjust...us shed,and that's the entrance of the
PATRICE BERTIN. .Before there w J
bathroom upstairs. And it s a much larger space
PHYLLIS ATKINS: Did you put in the interior doors also?
It was sand-downed,stained,refinished and waxed.For example,in the main dining
PATRICE BERTINd Ding down on one side),so I had to rebuild.I had the floor
room,I had the floor that was sagDin, g(g
led.It took the same time for them to install the floor for me to do one
instal door. Sand it own.•
JESS WOLF:When do you estimate that all this will be completed?
PATRICE BERTIN
I started 4-5 years ago.There was a huge driveway made of asphalt.There is still
more to be done.
PHYLLIS ATKINS:9 rooms in the house?
square feet?
JONATHAN WIGGINS:How many s q
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ROBERT SCOTT:3200 feet
JESS WOLF:Do all the toilets work? the shower
PATRICE BERTIN:
Yeah,the Plumbing.The toilet is new.There is no sink•There is only upstairs.Yes rig it's recent,
ht now,
JESS WOLF:The kitchen sink is operational?
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PATRICE BERTIN:Yes.
TOM RYAN: ow much would you say remains to be done so its completion?
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PATRICE BERTIN:what do you mean,in time?
TOM RYAN No,percentage of completion.Is it half way completed?
PATRICE BERTIN:It may take 1 or 2 yrs.
TOM RYAN:No,I didn't mean time.I mean.
KINSON:You're 50 percent done,you're 75 percent done...
PHYLLIS AT
PATRICE BERTIN:Yes,about 75 percent.
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TOM RYAN:There's 25 percent to go then.
PATRICE BERTIN:Yes,of all the money I make,I make 22,000.That's my tax...My income....That's
the only way I can survive.All the money I made—that is why I can't ask a contractor to charge me 30,000
for bathroom,that's the way it goes.
PHYLLIS ATKINSON:Do you have any ballpark estimates on how much you've spent so far?
PATRICE BERTIN:It's very difficult.I'm sure, at least over 100,000.
PHYLLIS ATKINSON: Just the materials 100,000.Not your time.
PATRICE BERTIN: Yes,I'm sure.There are walls that need repainting.This is downstairs (showing
pictures).That is my front entrance....I love boats,that's why I came to Greenport.The floor needs to be
resided here.The frame of the windows.To remove those things.If you could just see.This is what the
building looks like yesterday.
JESS WOLF:Do you want to look?
ROBERT SCOTT:I've seen them.
PATRICE BERTIN:There is still a lot of work.It's still not finished.This is today.I don't have time to
make a door in the garage.And you see,it's not finished... the back.There is a patio... And then I remove
the driveway.There was a huge driveway in the center of asphalt and cement.I do a lot of things... I love
to work with wood.Also I would like to finish.
JONATHAN WIGGINS:We've noticed you've had a temporary reduction in your taxes.
JESS WOLF:Mr.Bertin,you bought the house for$155,000 eight years ago.When you complete it,do
you have any idea,in your mind,what it would be worth.
PATRICE BERTIN: Ok,I'm not in real estate.There was a factor last year.I received the same interest.It
was more or less even more work.I did a few things,several things.It seems I have been working so hard,
putting all my money.I find that so hard and also extravagant,the increase.The reason. So I'm filled with
rage and disgusted.I call the real estate agency and I say,I put it in the market and if somebody wants it,
and let's get out of this town.If they're after me.
JONATHAN WIGGINS:What did the real estate tell you it's worth?
PATRICE BERTIN:Like 5,or 600 or something like that.
ROBERT SCOTT: I've got it here;it was 695 he was asking,as is.In the condition it was in.
PATRICE BERTIN: I didn't want to sell it.If somebody twist my arm.
JONATHAN WIGGINS: 695,000 would twist your arm.
PHYLLIST ATKINSON:We have plenty of time The letter from... Do you want me to take this?
JONATHAN WIGGINS:Bob,would you like to look at the photographs again?
ROBERT SCOTT:No,it's ok..The only question I have Patrice.There are several rooms that aren't
finished at this particular time.I didn't see it.
PATRICE BERTIN:NO I TOLD YOU IT WAS UNFINISHED.I INVITED YOU TO COME.I
CANNOT BE MORE TRUTHFUL THAN ASKING YOU TO COME OVER.AND YOU LOOKED AT
IT.
ROBERT SCOTT:No,I know that.
JESS WOLF:And you had people that would be staying in the house this weekend?
PATRICE BERTIN:NO,last weekend they were here. I say,I cannot receive you,and they say ok.
ROBERT SCOTT: Guests of yours.
PATRICE BERTIN:Yes.
PHYLLIS ATKINSON:Have you provided us with any other houses in the area that sold recently?
PATRICE BERTIN:I was very surprised.This is helpful with reductions usually.This house is a large
house,comparable in size.The land is exactly the same size.
I'm sure he has enhanced.
JONATHAN WIGGINS:His taxes are 2500 or his assessment?
ROBERT SCOTT:I'd have to take a look at it.That wasn't presented to me at that point.
PATRICE BERTIN:This one also.This was a large house.Now it's a blue house. On the paper mine does
look like that.Hamilton house...
JONATHAN WIGGINS:Where is this house?
PATRICE BERTIN:It's on the main street.It's all in the neighborhood. Similar.That goes with that.
PHYLLIS ATKINSON:Most of these assessments..This one goes back to 1980.
TOM RYAN:This one is 93.I think these ones are assessed.
PATRICE BERTIN:Everyone is paying much less.
JONATHAN WIGGINS:We are not making any decisions today.We will review your case.We would
like to as the assessor a few questions.
PATRICE BERTIN:The question is the assessors may be swamped with work.And they cannot go after
everybody and they go after certain people.But this is more than ordinary,because this is 41 percent
increase and this would be the highest property in the village itself.Even if I have a double lot.
ROBERT SCOTT: I doubt if he'd be able to subdivide it.That's a different story.I'm not even considering
that.
JONATHAN WIGGINS:Bob,I see that his assessment was 7200 on 6/26 of 2001. It went from a revised
6,000 to 7200.And then we see that it was reduced couple of months later and that was a correction of
errors to 5100 assessed value.The question was it was 72,it went down to 51,and now it's back up to 72
again. Why did it get increased?
ROBERT SCOTT: Ok,first of all there was considerable work done on the house.The exterior of the
house,the gardens,there's no question about it.We sent out a notice of change of assessment last year.Mr,
Bertin gave us an invitation to come take a look at the house,we did and we were influenced by the
inspection at that point We dropped it to 5100 at that point,we made a correction of errors at that
particular point based somewhat based on some of the things he said,need,income and everything else.
Maybe we shouldn't have gone that far but we did and we were influenced by it.We don't regret that.
However,what I'd like to do at this point is to give Mr.Bertin....
JONATHAN WIGGINS:We understand why you dropped it to 51 because of the inspection.My question
is why was it increased?
ROBERT SCOTT:We felt that we were sort of lied to be honest with you about the value of the property
and the other certain things was influenced by the fact that it was on the market for 695,000. I'm just saying
because last year the 5100 dollars divided by the ratio at that particular point we were looking at 197,000.
At the time 7200 dollars,when we took a look at it,at that point it was still 279,000.Now it's 330 because
they changed the ratio.What we did is we went back and changed it to the proper rates and we took 35
percent off for completion for the interior of the house. So we're saying that the interior of the house has
substantial improvement to go—we understand that.It's on the bottom of the card.That's for the interior of
the house.Mr.Bertin just said that he's looking in the range of 75 percent completion at this point. We
weren't trying to bring it to the 695 level-we didn't think that was right.We were trying to get it to a closer
range to where it should be because there has been considerable change and considerable improvement to
the property even with the inside not being done.That is the answer to your question.We do have a copy of
the real estate commercial sale date for 695 dated for September 6`h.That's part of the evidence.This is an
appraisal that I've made up that I'm going to give to Mr.Bertin and to the other members of the board.
These are based on recent sales.All of them are within the village of Greenport.
PHYLLIS ATKINSON:Bob,could you just reiterate what you were saying.Now,you-had him assessed at
a certain amount to equal a certain market value,but because they're changing the RAR,that's what made I
jump?
ROBERT SCOTT:No,what I'm saying is basically the assessment originally before any work was done
was 5100 and that hadn't changed since 1979.We can't leave that at that range because there has been
considerable improvement on the property.And Mr.Bertin came in and he gave us an inspection of the
property.We were influenced by that,we wanted to help him change the assessment and give him an
opportunity to fix more of the interior of the property.Especially since he said that he couldn't afford it and
because he said that the value of the property was depreciated since it hadn't been finished and since he
said there was considerable work to be done.If the language of the ad alone says right here price per
current restoration.695.
JESS WOLF:Do you think that 695 was a realistic number?
ROBERT SCOTT:No,do I think that 296 or the 330 that we're looking at now is a realistic market value? -- ---- --
Absolutely.I'm not talking 695 at all.When it's finished,I'm still not.This is a partial assessment.When
it's finished there is 35 percent more that will go on at some particular point,and that is another 3200
dollars of assessment that could go on there in the future.And that,as you know,is another 120 some odd
thousand dollars approximately using the ratio we have now.That's 450/460 thousand.That's not 695 by
any stretch of the imagination.We're not using his numbers at all.As far as the sales.
JONATHAN WIGGINS: Did you provide us with these cards here?
ROBERT SCOTT: I gave you all the ones I had copies ofF/
PATRICE BERTIN:Why is my house the most high?They have to raise the taxes for everybody if they
consider real estate values going up.
PHYLIS ATKINSON: Ok,I'm reading this ad from Cook Poney and outstanding garden and Lilly pond,
European villas.How much did you spend on landscaping?
PATRICE BERTIN: I don't know,because I did most of it myself.I bought some trees,hundred dollars.
The garden has nothing to do.
PHYLLIS ATKINSON:It is all included when you are going to sell a house.When you pull up to it you
see the beautiful gardens,it's a plus.
PATRICE BERTIN:Yes.I don't want my tax raised
PHYLLIS ATKINSON:Would you see your landscaping was above average?
PATRICE BERTIN.Yes,I was the only one moving forward,preparing anything.I planted trees.Even one
of the trees in the street by trailer . In fact as an artist,trying to beautify.I don't think I should be
penalized because I'm an artist and I love to do certain work. You will reassess the house.But right now it
has not been sold.Most of the assessments are the same.
PHYLLIST ATKINSON:Mr.Bertin,it is illegal to reassess upon sale.The town cannot do that.
You can't say this sold for a higher price;I'm going to change the assessment.Now there's a barn on the
property,have you done anything with that?
PATRICE BERTIN: The garage..nothing.I showed you.Even I don't have a door.
ROBERT SCOTT: Can I say^omething?We're not allowed to assess based on sale.That's number one.
We are allowed to assess based on something being changed in an inventory manner,if there has been
unprovement to the property.
We do not uniformly take into account landscaping or gardens.And that's not part of the process.
However,at this particular point when we are talking about justifying evaluation for it we can take that into
effect and we must take that into effect as well,but that was not part of the process to get to this number.
We're looking at the market value,and that's not how we came to the assessed value.They have to
correlate and they can be used as proof.There has been a significant change to the property,as evidenced
by at least the outside of the building. Pictures of the exterior of the house.I've got 5 copies over here as
sales Excuse me,Mr. Chairman.I didn't interrupt at all when he was speaking.
JONATHAN WIGGINS:I'm still looking.Mr.Bertin had given us property data sheets on several houses
and I still don't see them.
ROBERT SCOTT:All I'm saying is,we've got 5 different houses here.All have sold between 6/11/01 all
the way up to 8/16/01.The average of the adjustments and I've taken off adjustments for unfinished
interior for the entire house because I want to make it correspond to what Mr.Bertin's is as well. I've gone
anywhere from 315,000 to 364,000 so the average is more in the range of 347,000,we're not at that level.
We're at 330.The current sales in the market in Greenport show that we are well within keeping as far as
what the value is concerned for this particular piece of property.I've got them all here.I've got his ad,
pictures of his house.I've shown that we've taken off 35 percent for the interior of the house,because the
interior is the portion that has to be looked at because that has not been done and we recognize that.I did
not change that evaluation from last year to this year and so we did take another look at it because market
dictates that we take a look at it as well.This is a continuing process.
JONATHAN WIGGINS:Mr.Bertin has given us other comparables,namely the Munsel house.That is
the next block,similar piece of property,similar size house as a basis for his argument.He's also using the
house in the corner of North street and first street which is a similar size house also.
ROBERT SCOTT: It was brought up to me that some of those..I think you said Phyllis,some of them have
not been changed since 1967 or whatever.
PHYLLIS ATKINSON- Two had been since 80.
ROBERT SCOTT. OK.And the reason for that is that we aren't allowed to go based on sale,we aren't
allowed to go unless we do an entire neighborhood,and we aren't allowed to go unless a specific inventory
changes for property such as a building permit or something along that line. Our hands are tied—we can't
I
do that. When there is a change such as what Mr.Bertin is doing now.It is our duty to go there. And it is
not the highest assessment in the village of Greenport. There is plenty more.
JONATHAN WIGGINS:We are not making any decisions today but we will certainly review all of this.If
I could have the property data card on the Munsel house.
ROBERT SCOTT: I did the sheet.He carne in yesterday afternoon and said he was going to be here.I
prepared the sheet in anticipation of him being here.These are ones that I chose;these are sales. That is
what an appraiser does.He bases it on sales.
PATRICE BERTIN:That's exactly the same size.The house is basically the same.I removed the front
because across the street there is a drug dealer.They throw bottles,garbage. Even this morning, they pass
with a bicycle,they enter and continue.
JONATHAN WIGGINS: I thank you very much for coming in. We will give it consideration.
We're going to review it.You do have a beautiful home in Greenport and we hope you stay here.
JESS WOLF:Did anyone look at the house with the 695 price?Did it create any interest?
PATRICE BERTIN:About 3.
JONATHAN WIGGINS:It's a wonderful house and we'll certainly review your case.Thank you for
coming in.
PHYLLIS ATKINSON:Mr. Scott.What are we talking dollar amount. 72?
ROBERT SCOTT:Was it originally 56? 51 would be 222.
PHYLLIS ATKINSON:The difference in taxes between the 51 assessment and the 72 assessment?No
with the taxes.How much more would he be paying?
ROBERT SCOTT: He'd be paying another 29 percent. She can fax it in today,with a hard copy today. She
has to send us a hard copy afterwards and have it posted after today.We'll get you another one Patrice.
Here is the fax number.It will come right to us.
PHYLLIS ATKINSON:That has to be in the mail today.She has to do a hard copy with an original
signature follow up.
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TOM RYAN:6,000 was just for the improvement.
PHYLLIS ATKINSON: None of these have been,this is the most current that was assessed in 1996 for
3400,but it's only 1100 square feet.Everything else being equal. Old assessments which-if you took that
and you divided by the 2.18 residential assessment rate,I'm sure you wouldn't come up with these selling
prices.I'm just looking for a common ground to compare what the petitioner gave us with what the
assessor gave us.This would be 348,ok.The assessor gave us to prove his point,and I found out what the
most current assessed value was, and then I divided it by the residential assessment rate to find out what the
market value would be,and the first sale that sold for 425,using the assessed value,would have a market
value of 349.And the second sale,using the same parameters,would have a market value of 156,000.And
the third sale would have a market value of 179.The fourth sale would have a market value of 303,000.
And the fifth would have a market value of 197,000. And none of those are anywhere near the sales prices,
so with that in mind,can you really use the proof the petitioner gave you showing the assessed value of the
houses verses the assessed value of his house.
TOM RYAN:The indicated market values are much different from what you dust mentioned.
PHYLLIS ATKINSON:This is after adjustments; this is the sale price.Then they add plus or nunus and
this gives you the adjustment here, and they deducted the—81,000 from here,they have to take all the
comparables and make them as much like the subject as possible,so they do it by the adjustments and in
other words,if this comparable had everything equal as same as the subject,it would have sold for this
amount of money,and they do it for each of them.
JESS WOLF:The one for 82,000 and the other for almost 100,000.Those houses are in bad,bad shape?
PHYLLIS ATKINSON:No you have to look at what the adjustments are before. A lot of them are for the
living space because the subject is so large.
TOM RYAN: See,I took a different route.I took the 1200 of the land(a given), 6,000 for the improvement
is what the assessors determined it was,the petitioner said there was 25 percent to be done,I gave hien 25
percent off,reduced it by 500 dollars,gave me the improvement value,add 5500,plus the 1200 in land,
come up with 6700.I recognize the fact that Bob mentioned 35 percent This is a question of value
judgment.
PHYLLIS ATKINSON: So you feel he's entitled to a small reduction?
TOM RYAN:Right.
JONATHAN WIGGINS:I do too.
TOM RYAN:The fact of the matter is he demonstrated that it is not complete.
JESS WOLF:We have no way of determining which is...
JONATHAN WIGGINS:What I'm concerned about is if he drops it to 5100,and it wasn't complete then,
it really wasn't a whole lot more complete over the last year,why did it get increased to 72?
JESS WOLF:He[Bob] maintains a considerable amount was completed.
JONATHAN WIGGINS:I'm just curious.You drop it to 51,there was a correction of errors.We gave him
that.
TOM RYAN:That reduction wasn't in my opinion based on fact;that was reverting the assessment to its
former number.3900-then they put it up to 6,000.
PHYLLIS ATKINSON:Not the total assess,just the improvements.This is what we're looking at.
JONATHAN WIGGINS:That was February of 2001.Then they immediately dropped it back down to 39
because it needed work.It went from 39 to 6,000 a little over a year ago.Then it went back down to 39
because it needed a lot of work. How much of that work got done?
TOM RYAN. We can't answer that.
PHYLLIS ATKINSON: We have only been told that he has 25 percent to go
TOM RYAN:That's the relevant issue now.
PHYLLIS ATKINSON: So if you do it on the percentage,that way,he is entitled to a small reduction.
JESS WOLF:What's interesting is that they say it's over priced,but they didn't put the pictures in the ad.
JONATHAN WIGGINS:My question- if it was finished,just using that as a ballpark figure,it had no
property at all,but it was a sinular sized house.
PHYLLIS ATKINSON:You're talking not even a year later.Like seven months later.
JESS WOLF:They didn't do that much work Like Scott said(Bob),they kind of felt like they had been
sold a bill of goods. But I didn't want to press the matter.Do I read from your comment that what Cook
Poney was trying to sell that house for that they are that much out of sync with prices in the community?
PHYLLIS ATKINSON:What was the rationale you explained when you said it came right back to the 395
when you took the percentage of completion?
GERRY SCHULTHEIS: Jonathan said he thought the house would be worth 500,000 when complete. So if
he made 35 percent of it. 175,000 take that way from the 500,they got it at 330.
JONATHAN WIGGINS:I just got that figure;I thought it was worth 100,000 more than the other house a
block away.
PHYLLIS ATKINSON:That would make the assessed value-325. Somebody just asked about faxing it in
to.If you drop the assessment to 7085,that equals a market value of 325. I'm using the RAR.
TOM RYAN:You'd have a better handle on it because you live there,Jonathan.
JONATHAN WIGGINS:We're all given us the same information.He's given us other homes with
assessments that are comparable.We're looking at Bob Scott's argument;we still have to look at the
petitioner's argument. OK-we want to really look at these things.We're going to look at the other
assessed values.
PHYLLIS ATKINSON: We can rehash it.We got all afternoon.
JONATHAN WIGGINS: OK,I'd like to told the Southold Town Board of Assessment Review,we're in
recess until 7 PM this evening.
JONATHAN WIGGINS:We'd like to call to order this session of the Southold Town Board of Assessment
Review.Let me introduce myself,I'm Jonathan Wiggins,Phyllis Atkinson,Tom Ryan,Gerry Schultheis,
Jess Wolf.
PHYLLIS ATKINSON:Ed&Audrey White.
JONATHAN WIGGINS:Have you gone to the assessors and told them that you were coming here?Just let
them know that you are here because we need to hear both together.
ROBERT SCOTT:Within 2 minutes I pulled out 4 within a block that was 145,000 to 160,000 dollars
smaller or equal to them.They got an appraisal from somebody that said it was 111 for state purposes,so it
was a low appraisal.I'm just saying that it's done that way sometimes.
PHYLLIS ATKINSON: Good Job!
JONATHAN WIGGINS: Should we wait till the second or should we close it down?
DARLINE J DUFFY: If they come in now I'm not talking.
JONATHAN WIGGINS:It's now nearing 9 o'clock.We'd like to call the session of the Southold Town
Board of Assessment Review to a close.Thank You Very Much.