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OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERK
SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD
REGULAR MEETING
August 29, 2017
7:30 PM
A Regular Meeting of the Southold Town Board was held Tuesday, August 29, 2017 at the
Meeting Hall, Southold,NY.
Call to Order
7:30 PM Meeting called to order on August 29, 2017 at Meeting Hall, 53095 Route 25, Southold,
NY.
Attendee Name_ _ Organization Title _Status Arrived
James Dinizio Jr = Town of Southold Councilman Present ..
William P. RulandTown of Southold Councilman Present
Jill Doherty _ _Town of Southold ! Councilwoman , Present
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RobGhosio Town of Southold Councilman Present
Louisa P. Evans Town of Southold Justice Present
Scott A. Russell Town of Southold s Supervisor Present 3
Elizabeth A.Neville Town of Southold Town Clerk Present
William M Duffy Town of Southold Town Attorney Present
1. Reports
1. Justice Court Monthly Reports -Justice Evans
2. Justice Court Monthly Reports -Justice Hughes
3. Justice Court Monthly Reports - Justice Price
4. Planning Board Monthly Report
5. Town Clerk Reports
Southold Town Board Regular Meeting
August 29, 2017 page 2
II. Public Notices
III. Communications
IV. Discussion
1. 9:00 Am - Craig Jobes
2. 9:15 Am - Chief Flatley
3. 9:30 Am -Denis Noncarrow,Jeff Standish and Michael Collins
4. 9:45 Am -Denis Noncarrow,Rona Smith and Rory MacNish
5. 10:15 Am -Vincent Orlando,Highway Superintendent
6. Code Amendment
7. Trustee's Proposed Marine Contractor Law
8. Proposed Rental Permit Law
9. Motion To: Motion to Enter Executive
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby Enter into Executive Session
at 11:37 AM for the purpose of discussing the following matters:
Labor-Matters Involving Employment of Particular Person(S)
11:30 am -Vincent Orlando
12:00 am - Chief Flatley
Proposed Acquisition, Sale or Lease of Real Property Where Publicity of Would Substantially
Affect the Value Thereof
RESULT: ADOPTED [UNANIMOUS]
MOVER: Louisa P. Evans, Justice
SECONDER:Jill Doherty, Councilwoman
AYES: Dinizio Jr, Ruland, Doherty, Ghosio, Evans, Russell
10. EXECUTIVE SESSION -Labor-Matters Involving Employment of Particular Person(S)
11. EXECUTIVE SESSION - Proposed Acquisition, Sale or Lease of Real Property Where
Publicity of Would Substantially Affect the Value Thereof
12. Motion To: Motion to Exit Executive
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby Exit/Recess from this
Executive Session at 1:37 PM.
Southold Town Board Regular Meeting
August 29, 2017 page 3
RESULT: ADOPTED [UNANIMOUS]
MOVER: Louisa P. Evans, Justice
SECONDER:William P. Ruland, Councilman
AYES: Dinizio Jr, Ruland, Doherty, Ghosio, Evans, Russell
13. Motion To: Recess 9:00 AM meeting
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby Recess this 9:00 AM
meeting of the Town Board at 1:37 PM until the Regular 7:30PM Meeting of the Southold
Town Board.
RESULT: ADOPTED [UNANIMOUS]
MOVER: William P. Ruland, Councilman
SECONDER:Jill Doherty, Councilwoman
AYES: Dinizio Jr, Ruland, Doherty, Ghosio, Evans, Russell
14. Update on Code Enforcement Officers Integration of the Mobile Municity Software
15. Resident Beach Parking—Two Year Permit
Motion To: Reconvenes 9:00 AM meeting
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby reconvenes the 9:00 AM
meeting of the Southold Town Board at this 7:30PM Regular Meeting of the Southold Town
Board.
RESULT: ADOPTED [UNANIMOUS]
MOVER: Scott A. Russell, Supervisor
SECONDER:William P. Ruland, Councilman
AYES: Dinizio Jr, Ruland, Doherty, Ghosio, Evans, Russell
Pledge to the Flag
Opening Comments
Supervisor Scott A. Russell
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Please rise for the Pledge to the Flag. Thank you. Would anyone
like to address the Town Board on any of the agenda items?
Robert Dunn, Peconic
ROBERT DUNN: Robert Dunn, Peconic. 762, which is non-conforming buildings. I would
just like to say thank you for your work and for anybody who hasn't read this or doesn't
understand it, I know it's just being placed on for public hearing tonight but my point is and also
I just said that you and I talked about it a few times but the fact that I feel partially responsible
for it because I made a lot of noise about it, the point is that you should know that you do
respond when people make noise and I think you are to be commended for it. Whether it will go
through as it is or not after the hearing but thank you.
Southold Town Board Regular Meeting
August 29, 2017 page 4
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: We, Robert, we actually essentially removed one small paragraph
and replaced it with another small paragraph. Took us several months, we fast tracked it for you.
It took a long time.
MR. DUNN: Inaudible.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I was just implying that it really was a fairly simple fix but it did
take us some time because of complicating issues.
MR. DUNK: You had to come up with the right words, I understand. But the thing is, if it had
been left the way it was (inaudible).
Supervisor Russell
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Thank you. Thank you. Would anyone else like to address the
Town Board on any of the agenda items? (No response).
V. Resolutions
2017-729
CATEGORY.• Audit
DEPARTMENT. Town Clerk
Approve Audit
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby approves the audit dated
August 29, 2017.
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2017-729
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled
❑ Withdrawn fames Dmizio Jr Voter Q 11 1i
❑ Supervisor's Appt William P Ruland Voter E1 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Voter Rl ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Mover Q ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter D ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2017-730
CATEGORY. Set Meeting
DEPARTiVEATT. Town Clerk
Southold Town Board Regular Meeting
August 29, 2017 page 5
Next Town Board Meeting
RESOLVED that the next Regular Town Board Meeting of the Southold Town Board be held,
Tuesday, September 12, 2017 at Southold Town Hall, 53095 Main Road, Southold, New
York at 4:30 P. M..
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2017-730
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled _
❑ Withdrawn James Dmizio Jr Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt William P Ruland Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Gltosto Seconder, 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2017-731
CATEGORY. Attend Seminar
DEPARTMENT: Historian
Amy Folk to Attend Seminar
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants permission to
Amy Folk to attend a seminar entitled Assoc. of Public Historians of NYS 2017 Annual State
Conference in Poughkeepsie,NY, from October 31-November 2, 2017. All expenses for
registration,travel, lodging, and meals to be a legal charge to the 2017 budget (meetings and
seminars).
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2017-731
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled
❑ Withdrawn lames Dmizio Ir Mover D ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt William P Roland Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt .till Doherty Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
0 Lost
Southold Town Board Regular Meeting
August 29, 2017 page 6
2017-732
CATEGORY.• Attend Seminar
DEPARTMENT. Police Dept
Police Department-Training Request
I
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby lzrants permission to
Detective Sergeant Sinning and Detective Steven Harned to attend the 30th Annual Colonel
Henry F. Williams Homicide Seminar in Albany,NY from September 10-15, 2017. All
expenses for registration,travel and related expenses to be a legal charge to the 2017 budget
lines A.3120.4.600.225, A.3120.4.600.300 &A.3120.4.600.200
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2017-732
IZ Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated T - — -- - --- -- —
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled
❑ Withdrawn James Dmizio Jr Voter RI ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt William P Ruland Seconder El ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Mover IZI ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Voter I7 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Voter El ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2017-733
CATEGORY: Budget Modification
DEPA RTME AT: Human Resource Center
Reallocation of HRC Donations
Financial Impact: Reallocate donations on behalf of Rudolph Bruer to the Meals on Wheels Program
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the 2017
General Fund Whole Town budget as follows:
To:
Revenues Gifts and Donations
A.2705.40 Donations $860.00
Total: $860.00
To:
Appropriations Programs for the Aging
Southold Town Board Regular Meeting
August 29, 2017 page 7
A.6772.2.500.600 Senior Program Equipment $860.00
Total: $860.00
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2017-733
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated , Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled
❑ Withdrawn James Dimzio Jr Voter D_ ❑ ❑ ^❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt William P Ruland Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Voter 0 i ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P.Evans Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A.Russell Voter D ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2017-734
CATEGORY: Grants
DEPARTMENT: Public Works
Contract Extension, NYS Parks Grant
Financial Impact:No cost contract extension for NYS Parks Grant-Hurricane Sandy Disaster Relief
Assistance, in the amount of$30,000
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and
directs Supervisor Scott A. Russell to execute a no-cost contract extension in connection with the
Hurricane Sandy Disaster Relief Assistance Grant for the Fort Corchaug Archeological Grant to
12/31/2018, all in accordance with the approval of the Town Attorney.
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2017-734
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled
❑ Withdrawn James Dmizio Jr Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt William P Ruland Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter 0 1 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
Southold Town Board Regular Meeting
August 29, 2017 page 8
2017-735
CA TEGOR Y. Organizational
DEPARTMENT.• Town Clerk
Peconic Landing Fireworks Permit
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby approves the issuance of a
fireworks permit by the Town Clerk to Peconic LandinIZ at Southold, Inc. for a fireworks
display on September 3, 2017 at 7:15PM (Rain Date: September 4,2017 at 7:15 PM), on
the Peconic Landing's property at 1500 Brecknock Road, Greenport, New York,upon the
payment of a single fee of$100 and subject to the applicant's compliance with the requirements
of the Town's policy regarding the issuance of fireworks permits.
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2017-735
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated —- — - - — - --- -- - -
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled
❑ Withdrawn James Dmizio Jr Voter _RI 11
❑ Supervisor's Appt William P Ruland Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys App[ Scott A.Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ 11
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2017-736
CATEGOR Y.• Employment-Town
DEPARTMENT• Accounting
Rescind Resolution Number 2017-615
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby rescinds resolution#2017-
615, adopted at the July 18, 2017 regular Town Board meeting in its entirety, which read as
follows:
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints Shannon Merker
to the position of Part Time Court Officer for the Justice Court effective July 21, 2017 at a
rate of$30.40 per hour, not to exceed 17.5 hours per week.
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2017-736
0 Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
0 Adopted as Amended James Dmizio Ir Mover 0 0 ❑ ❑
Southold Town Board Regular Meeting
August 29, 2017 page 9
❑ Defeated William P.Ruland Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tabled Jill Doherty Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Withdrawn Robert Ghosio Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt Louisa P Evans Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Scott A.Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded
❑ Town Clerk's Appt
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2017-737
CATEGORY. Refund
DEPARTMENT.• Solid Waste Management District
Tip Fee Refund
RESOLVED by the Town Board of the Town of Southold to issue a refund to Juan Lawn Care
in the amount of$71.10 for a tip fee for brush inadvertently charged to her vehicle which was
actually hauling woodchips on August 19, 2017 at the Cutchogue Transfer Station.
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2017-737
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated Yes/Aye i No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled -- - - -------
❑ Withdrawn James Dimzio Jr Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt William P Ruland Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Mover 0 11 ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2017-738
CATEGORY.• Attend Seminar
DEPARTMENT: Engineering
Michael Collins to Attend AutoCAD 2016/2017 Essentials Course
Southold Town Board Regular Meeting
August 29, 2017 page 10
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants permission to Michael
Collins to attend the AutoCAD 2016/2017 Essentials Course in Melville,NY, on October 10-12,
2017. All expenses for registration,travel to be a legal charge to the 2017 budget (meetings and
seminars).
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2017-738
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled
❑ Withdrawn James Dinizio Jr Voter 0 El❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt William P Ruland Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio j Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2017-739
CATEGORY: Budget Modification
DEPARTMENT. Solid Waste Management District
SWMD Budget Mods
Financial Impact: To provide funds for referenced lines. Incoming scrap tires and refrigerant items have
exceeded estimation, these modifications are expected to fund through year's end. DEC Environmental
Monitor charges are complete for the year.
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the 2017 Solid
Waste Management District budget as follows:
From
SR 8160.4.500.100 DEC Environmental Monitor $5,200
Total $5,200
To:
SR 8160.4.100.525 Tires $1,625
SR 8160.4.400.815 Scrap Tire Removal 1,825
SR 8160.4.400.850 Refrigerant Removal 1,750
Total $5,200
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2017-739
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Defeated James Dmizio Jr Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
0 Tabled William P Ruland Voter 0 0 0 ❑
Southold Town Board Regular Meeting
August 29, 2017 page 11
❑ Withdrawn Jill Doherty Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt Robert Ghosio Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Louisa P Evans Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Scott A Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2017-740
CATEGORY.• Attend Seminar
DEPARTMENT.• Accounting
NYS GFOA Training Approval
Financial Impact: Seminar and web inars given by NYS and National GFOA (Government Finance
Officers Association)for required annual training for purposes of Continuing Professional Education
(CPE) as it relates to my CPA license.
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants permission to Kristie
Hansen-Hightower to attend a seminar on municipal finance topics in Hauppauge,NY, on
October 3, 2017 and November 15, 2017, and webinars on August 30, 2017, September 27, 2017
and November 9, 2017. All expenses for registration and travel to be a legal charge to the 2017
budget (meetings and seminars).
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2017-740
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled
❑ Withdrawn James Dmizio Jr Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt William P Ruland Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receivers Appt Jill Doherty Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A.Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2017-741
(ATEGOR Y.• Field Use-Town
DEPARTY11ENT: Recreation
Southold Town Board Regular Meeting
August 29, 2017 page 12
Field Use—Peconic Inline Hockey League
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold does hereby grant permission to the
Peconic Inline Hockey League to use the hockey rink at Cochran Park for local youth to play
roller hockey mid September, 2017 - mid November 2017 from 5:00 p.m.- 8:00 p.m. Applicant
has filed with the Recreation Department a Two Million Dollar Certificate of Insurance naming
the Town of Southold as additional insured. An updated Certificate of Insurance will be obtained
upon policy renewal in October. Final schedule will be coordinated with the Recreation
Department.
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2017-741
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled
❑ Withdrawn James Dmizio Jr Mover D ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt William P Roland Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
Comment regarding resolution 742
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: This is a resolution acknowledging the retirement of Robert Scott. I
think Robert Scott is one of the most decent people I have ever met and I had the honor of
working alongside of him for 15 years. This is a big loss to the Town of Southold, it is
bittersweet, I am happy for him as he undertakes new adventures in retirement. I do have to tell
you, I would not be sitting here today if it were not for Robert or Scotty as we call him. I
actually came out one weekend in 1990 and he encouraged me to put my name in to run for
Assessor. It had never even occurred to me until I got that encouragement from him. I
appreciate everything he has done for me: Thank you.
2017-742
C4TEGGRY.• Employment-Town
DEPARTIVENT. Accounting
Acknowledges the Intent to Retire Robert I. Scott Jr.
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby acknowledges the intent to
retire of Robert I. Scott Jr. from the position of Board of Assessors Member for the
Assessor's Office, effective December 31, 2017.
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2017-742
0 Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
Southold Town Board Regular Meeting
August 29, 2017 page 13
❑ Adopted as Amended James Dinizio Jr Voter D ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Defeated William P Roland Seconder CEJ ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tabled Jill Doherty Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Withdrawn Robert Ghosio Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt Louisa P Evans Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Scott A Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded
❑ Town Clerk's Appt
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2017-743
CATEGORY. Budget Modification
.DEPARTMENT: Fishers Island Ferry District
2017 Budget Modification-FIFD
Financial Impact: to cover over expenditures
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby ratifies and approves the
resolution of the Fishers Island Ferry District Board of Commissioners dated August 18, 2017,
which amended the 2017 Fishers Island Ferry District budget in the amount of$27,000.00.
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2017-743
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated _ m Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled
❑ Withdrawn James Dimzio Jr Voter ❑✓ ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt William P Ruland Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2017-744
CATEGORY.• Refund
DEPARTMENT. Town Clerk
Refund-Jean Schweibish
Southold Town Board Regular Meeting
August 29, 2017 page 14
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants a refund in the amount
of$15.00 to Jean Schweibish(as agent for Mattituck Laurel Civic Association), 200 Walnut
Place, Mattituck,N Y for a Yard Sale permit that was never used.
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2017-744
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled _.._
❑ Withdrawn James Dmizio Jr Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt William P Ruland Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A.Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2017-745
CATEGORY.• Close/Use Town Roads
DEPARTMENT. Town Clerk
Pack 39- Cubmobile Race
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants permission to Pack 39
Cub Scouts to hold its annual Cubmobile Soapbox Derby Race on September 16, 2017 (rd
September 17, 2017 from 8:OOAM to 12:00 PM on the North side of Eastside Avenue, Mattituck,
provided they adhere to the Town of Southold Policy for Special Events on Town Properties and
Roads. All Town fees for this event, with the exception of the Clean-up Deposit, are waived.
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2017-745
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled
11 Withdrawn lames DInizio Jr Voter 0 El El
❑ Supervisor's Appt William P Ruland Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
0 Lost
Southold Town Board Regular Meeting
August 29, 2017 page 15
2017-746
CATEGORY: Refund
DEPARTMENT.• Town Clerk
Various Clean Up Deposits
WHEREAS the following groups have supplied the Town of Southold with a refundable Clean-
up Deposit fee, for their events and
WHEREAS the Southold Town Police Chief, Martin Flatley, has informed the Town Clerk's
office that this fee may be refunded, now therefor be it
RESOLVED that Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes a refund be issued in
the amount of the deposit made to the following
Name Date Received Amount of Deposit
North Fork Reform Synagogue 6/9/17 $250.00
c/o Ellen Zimmerman
Po Box 105
East Marion,NY 11939
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2017-746
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated — - — -
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled
❑ Withdrawn James Dmizio Jr Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt William P Ruland Voter 0 11 ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2017-747
CATEGORY. Refund
DEPARTMENT. Recreation
Field Use Fee Return- UK Elite Soccer
WHEREAS U.K. Elite Soccer Inc. supplied the Town of Southold with a Field Use fee in the
amount of$1,000.00 for their requested field use of Strawberry Fields from July 10, 2017
Southold Town Board Regular Meeting
August 29, 2017 page 16
through July 14, 2017
WHEREAS UK Elite did not use the field due to no participant enrollment, this fee may be
refunded, now therefor be it
RESOLVED that Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes a refund be issued to
UK Elite Soccer, Inc., 210 Malapardis Road, Suite 101, Cedar Knolls,NJ 07927 in the amount of
$1000.00
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2017-747
id Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled
❑ Withdrawn James Dmizio Jr Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt William P Ruland Seconder, 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2017-748
CATEGORY: Employment-Town
DEPARTMENT: Accounting
Permanent Appointment Erica A. Bufkins
WHEREAS the Town Board of the Town of Southold has provisionally appointed Erica A.
Bufkins to the position of provisional Planner Trainee effective February 6, 2017, and
WHEREAS Erica A. Bufkins has taken and passed the Civil Service examination for Planner
Trainee, and is reachable on the Suffolk County Department of Civil Service List of Eligible's
for the competitive position of Planner Trainee, and
WHEREAS the Town Board of the Town of Southold has determined that it is in the best
interest of the Town to appoint Erica A. Bufkins to the permanent position of Planner Trainee
from said List of Eligible's, now therefore be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints Erica A. Bufkins to
the position of Planner Trainee from the Suffolk County Department of Civil Service List of
Eligible's effective August 30, 2017 with no salary change.
Southold Town Board Regular Meeting
August 29, 2017 page 17
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2017-748
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled
❑ Withdrawn -
James Dmizio Jr Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt William P Roland Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2017-749
CATEGORY: Budget Modification
DEPARTMENT. Trustees
Board of Trustees-Budget Modification
Financial Impact: To cover shortage in overtime account
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the 2017 General
Fund Whole Town budget as follows:
From:
A.8090.4.400.840 Contracted Services, Pump-Out Boat Waste Disposal $1,300.00
Total $1,300.00
To:
A.8090.1.100.200 Personal Services, Overtime Earnings $1,300.00
Total $1,300.00
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2017-749
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled .lames Dimzio Jr Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Withdrawn William P Ruland Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt .till Doherty Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Robert Ghosio Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Louisa P Evans Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Scott A.Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt
❑ No Action
0 Lost
Southold Town Board Regular Meeting
August 29, 2017 page 18
2017-750
CATEGORY. Budget Modification
DEPARTMENT. Government Liaison
2017 Budget Modification- Youth
Financial Impact: transfer donations
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the 2017 General
Fund Whole Town budget as follows:
From:
A.2705.40 Other Donations 5,200
To:
A.7310.4.600.100 Youth Program Activities 5,200
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2017-750
El Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled
❑ Withdrawn James Dmizio Jr Voter '; El ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt William P.Ruland Voter ; 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Voter 0 11 ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio i Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter Rl ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2017-751
CATEGORY. Budget Modification
DEPAREVENT: Accounting
2017 Budget Modification-Police/Accounting
Financial Impact: Cover 207-c payments
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the 2017 General
Fund operating budget as follows:
Southold Town Board Regular Meeting
August 29, 2017 page 19
From:
A.3120.1.100.100 Police-Regular Earnings $68,540
A.9040.8.000.000 Employee Benefits-Workers Compensation $20,000
Total $88,540
To:
A.9040.8.000.100 Employee Benefits-207C Benefits $88,540
Total $88,540
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2017-751
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled
❑ Withdrawn James Dimzio Jr Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt William P Ruland Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Seconder 0 11 ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2017-752
CATEGORY.• Organizational
DEPARTMENT. Town Clerk
Denial of Fireworks Application
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby disapproves the issuance of
a fireworks permit by the Town Clerk to Shawn McBurnie for a fireworks display on
September 9, 2017 on the property of Breeze Hill Farm & Preserve located at 31215
County Road 48, Peconic,New York, based on the decision of the Fire Inspector that it does
not comply with New York State Building Code.
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2017-752
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Defeated James Dmizio Jr Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tabled
William P Ruland Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Withdrawn
❑ Supervisor's Appt till Doherty Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
El Tax Receiver's Appt Robert Ghosio Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Louisa P.Evans Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Scott A Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt
❑ No Action
Southold Town Board Regular Meeting
August 29, 2017 page 20
❑ Lost
2017-753
C,47EGORY.• Budget Modification
DEPARTMENT. Highway Department
2017 Budget Modification -Highway
Financial Impact: to cover over expenditures
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the 2017 Highway
Fund Part Town budget as follows:
From:
DB.5110.1.100.100 Full time Regular Earnings $18,000.00
To:
DB.5130.1.100.100 Brush weed Regular Earnings $18,000.00
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2017-753
21 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled
James Dimzio Jr Voter
❑ Withdrawn ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt William P.Ruland Mover 2 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Voter Rl ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Voter IZI ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Seconder Q ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter 21 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2017-754
CATEGORY: Employment-Town
DF.PARTME IVT. Accounting
Appoint Peter Gatz Groundskeeper III
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints Peter Gatz to the
position of Groundskeeper III for the Department of Public Works, effective August 31, 2017,
at a rate of$32.9526 per hour.
Southold Town Board Regular Meeting
August 29, 2017 page 21
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2017-754
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled _.
❑ Withdrawn James Dmizio Jr Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt William P Ruland Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Seconder, 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2017-755
CATEGORY.• Attend Seminar
DEPARTMENT. Police Dept
Police Department-Training Request
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby Grants permission to Lt.
James Ginas and Sgt. Richard Perkins to attend the Impact Training Conference from
September 12-14,2017 in Albany,New York. All expenses for registration, travel and any
additional related costs to be legal charges to the 2017 budget lines: A.3120.4.600.225 /
A.3120.4.600.300/A.3120.4.600.200.
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2017-755
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled
❑ Withdrawn James Dmizio Jr Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt William P Ruland Voter 0 ❑ El
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty ; Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2017-756
CATEGORY. Employment-Town
Southold Town Board Regular Meeting
August 29, 2017 page 22
DEPARTMENT. Accounting
Hire School Crossing Guard-Police Department
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints George G.
Lessard III to the position of School Crossing Guard at the daily rate of$91.71 effective
September 6, 2017.
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2017-756
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated -- -- -
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled
❑ Withdrawn James Dmizio Jr Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt William P Ruland Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P.Evans Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2017-757
CATEGORY.• Employment-Town
DEPARTYIENT. Accounting
Appoint David Coughlin Groundskeeper II
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints David Coughlin
to the position of Groundskeeper II for the Department of Public Works, effective August 31,
2017, at a rate of$31.3840 per hour.
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2017-757
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled
❑ Withdrawn James Din¢io Jr Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt William P Roland Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt .till Doherty Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
0 Lost
Southold Town Board Regular Meeting
August 29, 2017 page 23
2017-758
CATEGORY. Budget Modification
DEPARTUENT. Accounting
2017 Budget Modification- Capital
Financial Impact.-Authorizes use of budgeted Highway Part Town operating funds for capital projects
WHEREAS the Town Board of the Town of Southold adopted a 2017 Capital Budget which
includes an appropriation for road resurfacing, and
WHEREAS the Town's Capital Budget process requires a resolution to formally establish
Capital Budget items in the Capital Fund,now therefore be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the
establishment of the following Capital Projects and amends the 2017 Capital Budget as
follows:
Capital Project Name: FY2017 Road Resurfacing
Financing Method: Transfer from the Highway Part Town Fund
Budget: Revenues:
H.5031.91 Interfund Transfers
Road Resurfacing $350,000
H.5031.92 Interfund Transfers
Sidewalks $25,000
Total $375,000
Appropriations:
H.5112.2.400.100 Road Resurfacing
Capital Outlay, C.S.
FY2017 Road Resurfacing $350,000
H.5410.2.400.100 Sidewalk Improvements
Capital Outlay, C.S.
Sidewalks $25,000
Total $375,000
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2017-758
d Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
El Adopted as Amended James Dmizio Jr Voter lZ ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Defeated William P Roland Mover R1 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tabled
.111 Doherty Seconder d ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Withdrawn
Robert Ghosio Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Louisa P Evans Voter D 11 ❑
Scott A Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded
❑ Town Clerk's Appt
Southold Town Board Regular Meeting
August 29, 2017 page 24
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2017-759
CATEGORY: Employment-Town
DEPARTIAIENT. Accounting
Attend NYS Retirement System Employer Education Seminar
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants permission to
Christine Foster, Secretarial Assistant, to attend the New York State Retirement System
Employer Education Seminar in Huntington,NY on September 27, 2017. All expenses for
registration and travel to be a legal charge to the 2017 budget (meetings and seminars).
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2017-759
Q Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled
❑ Withdrawn James Dmizio Jr Voter D ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt William P Roland Voter Q ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Voter RI ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Mover IZI ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2017-760
CA TE GOR Y. Local Law Public Hearing
DEPART IEN77- Town Attorney
PH 10/24/17- 7:30 Pm - Chapter 275 Coastal Contractor Licensing
WHEREAS,there has been presented to the Town Board of the Town of Southold, Suffolk
County,New York, on the 29t11 day of August, 2017, a Local Law entitled "A Local Law in
relation to Amendments to Chapter 275, Wetlands and Shoreline, in connection with
Coastal Contractor Licensing" now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold will hold a public hearing on the
aforesaid Local Law at Southold Town Hall, 53095 Main Road, Southold,New York, on the
Southold Town Board Regular Meeting
August 29, 2017 page 25
24th day of October,2017 at 7:30 p.m. at which time all interested persons will be given an
opportunity to be heard.
The proposed Local Law entitled, "A Local Law in relation to Amendments to Chapter 275,
Wetlands and Shoreline, in connection with Coastal Contractor Licensing" reads as follows:
LOCAL LAW NO. 2017
A Local Law entitled, "A Local Law in relation to Amendments to Chapter 275,Wetlands
and Shoreline, in connection with Coastal Contractor Licensinjj".
BE IT ENACTED by the Town Board of the Town of Southold as follows:
I. Purpose.
In order to continue to protect the natural state of the shorelines and wetlands within the Town of
Southold, it is the purpose of these amendments to provide herein for a strengthened system of
local licensing of marine contractors in order to more fully protect homeowners and responsible
marine contractors alike.
II. Chapter 275 of the Code of the Town of Southold is hereby amended as follows:
§ 275-2. Definitions; word usage.
COASTAL CONSTRUCTION - The repair, modification, re-construction or new construction of
structures including but not limited to bulkheads, docks, floats,jetties, groins, catwalks,
stairways decks revetments, any erosion or water control device. Included in this definition is
landscape design, landscape architecture,the installation or maintenance of lawns, hedges, trees
and other plantings or structural elements such as patios, decks, retaining walls, in-ground
irrigation systems, or other work in and around wetland areas which requires a permit pursuant to
this Chapter entitled Wetlands and Shorelines or Chapter 111 Coastal Erosion Hazard Areas of
the Town Code.
COASTAL CONTRACTOR-A person who carries out, engages in, undertakes or holds himself
out to others as performing or available to perform coastal construction.
275-3(a) Licensinj4 of Coastal Contractors.
A. CommencingJanuary anuary 1, 2018 it shall be unlawful for any person to engage in coastal
construction in the Town of Southold without first obtaining a license from the
Southold Town Clerk's Office in accordance with the provisions of this Chapter. Such
license or a copy thereof shall be available at all of the contractor's work sites and shall
be produced to any official having jurisdiction upon demand. Licenses for coastal
contractors are non-transferable.
B. Exceptions.
No license shall be required for the following_
(1) An individual who engages in coastal construction on their own residential
property. This exception shall not apply to corporations, limited liability
Southold Town Board Regular Meeting
August 29, 2017 page 26
companies or other unincorporated business entities.
(2) An individual who performs labor or services for a licensed coastal contractor for
wages or salary.
(3) An architect, professional engineer, land surveyor or an other who is
required by state or Town law to attain standards of competency or experience as
a prerequisite to engaging in such craft or profession and who is acting
exclusively within the scope of the craft or profession for which he is currently
licensed.
(4) Any municipality or government agency.
C. Fees.
(1) The fee for a coastal contractor's license shall be set by the Town Board, and
shall be paid upon the filing of each application. A license issued hereunder shall
be for a period of one year from the date of issuance thereof.
D. Insurance required.
A coastal contractor shall have a certificate of insurance and workers compensation
insurance coveringliability upon applying for a coastal contractor's license and shall
maintain such policy during the period the license is in effect. In addition to the above
coastal contractors must provide proof of an issued Suffolk County Contractors license
where applicable. Failure to maintain said coverage will provide grounds for
revocation of the license pursuant to § 275-3a(E).
E. Acknowledgement of Town Law Compliance
All applicants for a coastal contractors license shall be required to read,review and
provide an acknowledgement that they are on affirmative notice of Chapters 111 and
275 of the Town Code and agree to abide by the requirements set forth therein. They
must further acknowledge that failure to do so may result in the revocation of the
coastal contractors license.
F. Revocation of license.
(1) Licenses issued under the provisions of this chapter may be revoked by resolution
of the Board of Trustees upon notice and hearing before the Board of Trustees.
(2) Licenses may be revoked for failure of contractors to abide by the terms and
conditions of Trustee Permits and/or violations of Section 275 of the Town Code.
(3) Notice of the hearing before the Board of Trustees for revocation of a license
shall be given in writing, setting forth the grounds of the complaint and the time
and place of hearing.
(4) Grounds for a hearing shall be a conviction for a violation of section 275-5 or
275-11 of the Town Code
(5) Such notice shall be sent by certified mailing to the address provided in the
application for the license on file in the Town Clerk's Office, or, in the
alternative, to the license holder's last known address. Such notice must be
mailed at least five days prior to the date of the hearing.
(6) At the conclusion of said hearing, the Board of Trustees may, at their discretion,
suspend or revoke the license or take no action.
(7) In the event of two or more suspensions the Trustees may move to permanently
bar the holder from license eligibility.
(8) In addition to the revocation hearing, a violation of the provisions of this chapter
Southold Town Board Regular Meeting
August 29, 2017 page 27
may be separately maintained in the Town Justice Court in accordance with
275-16.
275-16. Compliance requirements; penalties for offenses.
B For each offense against any of the provisions of this chapter or any regulations made
pursuant thereto, or failure to comply with a written notice or order of any Director of
Code Enforcement, Zoning Inspector, or Bay Constable within the time fixed for
compliance therewith, the owner, occupant, builder, architect, contractor or their
agents or any other person who commits, takes part or assists in the commission of
any such offense or who shall fail to comply with a written order or notice of the
Director of Code Enforcement, Zoning Inspector, or Bay Constable shall be subject to
the following fine schedule. Each day on which such violation occurs may constitute
a separate, additional offense.[Amended 12-18--2007 bi LL No. 2;-2007: -23-2010
by LL. No. 1-20101
1 Failure to obtain a permit. Any person conducting operations within the
jurisdiction of the Trustees without first obtaining a permit according to the
procedures outlined in this chapter shall be subject to a fine of not less than
$1,000 and not more than $4,000$6,000 or a term of imprisonment of not less
than 15 days nor more than six months, or both.
f2) Failure to comply with the terms of a permit.
(a) Any person failing to comply with the terms of a permit shall be subject to
a fine of not less than$500$1,000 and not more than $4,000$6,000. For
each subsequent offense, the violator shall be guilty of a misdemeanor
punishable by a fine not less than $1,000 $2,000 nor more than$7,500
$10,000 or a term of imprisonment of not less than 15 days nor more than
six months, or both.
1(3) Any person failing to comply with posting the permit and/or the
requirement for supporting plans to be available for immediate inspection
pursuant to § 275-10 shall be subject to a fine of not more than$1,000.
LQ_Failure to heed a stop-work order. Any person conducting operations in direct
contradiction to the terms of a stop-work order shall be subject to a fine of not less
than $1,000 and not more than$4,000 $6,000. For each subsequent offense, the
violator shall be guilty of a misdemeanor punishable by a fine not less than
$1,000$2,000 nor more than $7,500 $10,000 or a term of imprisonment of not
less than 15 days nor more than six months, or both.
_Restoration. In lieu or in addition to these punishments, any offender may be
punished by being ordered to restore the affected wetland to its condition prior to
the offense. Any such order shall specify a reasonable time for the completion of
such restoration, which shall be effected under the supervision of the approving
authority. The Trustees reserve the right to require specific replanting and
restoration methods including specific survivability and success criteria.
5 Failure to comply with a restoration plan. Any person failing to comply with the
terms of a mandated restoration plan as detailed in Subsection B±4�of this section
within the proscribed period of time for completion shall be guilty of an offense
and subject to a fine of not less than $1,000 and not more than $4,000 $6,000.
(6) For the offense of conducting or engaging in in any coastal construction project or
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August 29, 2017 page 28
business without having first obtained a license, or while his license is suspended
or revoked, a violator shall be subject to a fine of not more than $5,000 for the
first offense and not more than $10,000 for each subsequent offense.
7 Mitigation. When on-site wetlands restoration and creation may be unfeasible due
to technical or other constraints, other mitigative measures, such as off-site
wetland restoration or creation, may be required.
{-7}(88) Other offenses. For an offense against any of the provisions of this Chapter not
specifically designated above,a violator shall be subject to a fine of not more than
$1,000.
II. SEVERABILITY
If any clause, sentence,paragraph, section, or part of this Local Law shall be adjudged by any
court of competent jurisdiction to be invalid,the judgment shall not affect the validity of this law
as a whole or any part thereof other than the part so decided to be unconstitutional or invalid.
IV. EFFECTIVE DATE
This Local Law shall take effect January 1, 2018 after filing with the Secretary of State as
provided by law.
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2017-760
CEJ Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated
❑ Tabled
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
_ a
❑ Withdrawn James Dimzio Jr Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt William P Ruland Voter 2 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter Q ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2017-761
C11TEGOR Y.• Local Law Public Hearing
DEPARTMENT. Town Attorney
PH 9/26/17- 7:31 Pm - Chapter 189 Parking
WHEREAS,there has been presented to the Town Board of the Town of Southold, Suffolk
County,New York, on the 291h day of August, 2017, a Local Law entitled "A Local Law to
consider amending Southold Town Code Chapter 189 (ParkinJ4)" now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold will hold a public hearing on the
aforesaid Local Law at the Southold Town Hall, 53095 Main Road, Southold,New York, on the
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August 29, 2017 page 29
26th day of September, 2017 at 7:31 p.m. at which time all-interested persons will be given an
opportunity to be heard.
The proposed Local Law entitled, entitled "A Local Law to consider amending Southold
Town Code Chapter 189 (Parking)" reads as follows:
LOCAL LAW NO. 2017
A Local Law entitled, entitled "A Local Law to consider amending Southold Town Code
Chapter 189 (Parking) to amend the dates that Town Parking Permits".
BE IT ENACTED by the Town Board of the Town of Southold as follows:
Chapter 189. Parking
Article I. Parking at Beaches
§ 189-3. Parking permits.
Parking permits for parking vehicles in the parking areas designated in § 189-2 of this article
shall be issued as follows:
A. Resident parking permit.
(1) A resident parking permit shall be issued by the Town Clerk or a person
designated by him to all persons who are qualified residents of the Town
of Southold. Persons applying for a resident parking permit shall be
requested to sign an application in affidavit form and submit for inspection
the following as proof of residence:
[Amended 5-25-1971; 3-25-1975 by L.L.No. 1-1975; 7-14-1987 by L.L.
No. 11-1987]
(a) A valid tax receipt stub for the current year for any taxable real
property within the Town of Southold assessed in the name of the
applicant.
(b) A valid motor vehicle registration in the name of the applicant and
to an address located within the Town of Southold or to an address
corresponding to the address of a validated tax receipt stub for the
current tax year for any taxable real property within the Town of
Southold affixed to the application.
(c) Such other proof of residence as is satisfactory to the Town Clerk.
(2) The Town Clerk or a person designated by the Town Clerk shall inspect
such application to determine that the applicant is a qualified resident of
the Town. Upon approval of the application, a resident parking permit
shall be issued and inscribed with the vehicle license registration number.
Such permit shall not be transferred to any other vehicle. [Amended
3-25-1975 by L.L.No. 1-1975; 12-28-1984 by L.L. No. 10-1984]
(3) Resident parking permits for motor vehicles shall be permanently affixed
to the right side of the front bumper of such vehicle and shall be valid for
the vehicle and an attached trailer. [Amended 5-9-1972; 10-18-1994 by
L.L. No. 21-1994]
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August 29, 2017 page 30
(4) A Resident Parking Permit shall be valid for two years. The first two (2)
year permit period shall commence January 1, 2018 and terminate on
December 31, 2019. Thereafter, a new two (2) year permit period shall
commence on January 1 st of every even-numbered year.
(4)(5) The fee for the residential parking permit period, or any part thereof,
issuanee f a resident parking ing ro,mit shall be suefee ., shall be
prescribed by resolution of the Southold Town Board.
II. SEVERABILITY
If any clause, sentence,paragraph, section, or part of this Local Law shall be adjudged by any
court of competent jurisdiction to be invalid,the judgment shall not affect the validity of this law
as a whole or any part thereof other than the part so decided to be unconstitutional or invalid.
III. EFFECTIVE DATE
This Local Law shall take effect immediately upon filing with the Secretary of State as provided
by law.
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2017-761
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled
❑ Withdrawn James Dmizio Jr Mover D ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt William P.Ruland Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Voter 10 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter R1 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2017-762
CATEGORY. Local Law Public Hearing
DEPARDIENT: Town Attorney
PH 9/26/17- 7:32 Pin- Chapter 280 Nonconforming Buildings
WHEREAS,there has been presented to the Town Board of the Town of Southold, Suffolk
County,New York, on the 29th day of August, 2017, a Local Law entitled "A Local Law in
relation to Amendments to Chapter 280, Zoning, in connection with Nonconforming
buildings with conforming uses" now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold will hold a public hearing on the
aforesaid Local Law at Southold Town Hall, 53095 Main Road, Southold,New York, on the
26th day of September 2017, at 7:32 p.m. at which time all interested persons will be given an
Southold Town Board Regular Meeting
August 29, 2017 page 31
opportunity to be heard.
The proposed Local Law entitled, "A Local Law in relation to Amendments to Chapter 280,
Zoning, in connection with Nonconforming buildings with conforming uses" reads as
follows:
LOCAL LAW NO. 2017
A Local Law entitled, "A Local Law in relation to Amendments to Chapter 280, Zoning, in
connection with Nonconforming buildings with conforming uses".
BE IT ENACTED by the Town Board of the Town of Southold as follows:
Chapter 280. Zoning
Article XXIII. Nonconforming Uses and Buildings
§ 280-122. Nonconforming buildings with conforming uses.
A. Nothing in this article shall be deemed to prevent the alteration or enlargement of
a nonconforming building containing a conforming use,provided that such action
does not create any new nonconformance or increase the degree of
nonconformance with regard to the regulations pertaining to such buildings.
[Amended 4-24-2012 by L.L.No. 6-2012]
B. Reconstruction of a damaged building.
(1) n noneonfofming building , „+.,i„ing a rf^,.ming, w-hioh has been
damaged by fire or other eauses to the ex4epA ,.f,,.,,,,.o than cnoi of its
value shall not be-repair-ed-or-rebuilt unlesssuch building is mad
substai#ially to ee fefm to the heigh4 and y ar- r epAs „file Bulk.
Com}"Nothing in this chapter shall prevent the complete restoration
of a building destroyed by accidental cause such as fire, flood, explosion,
riot, or act of God, nor prevent the continuance of the use of such building
or part thereof. Such restored building shall not exceed the dimensions of
the building destroyed.
(2) Application for a permit to build or restore the damaged portion of any
building damaged or destroyed as set forth in Subsection B(1) above shall
be filed within one year of the date of such damage and shall be
accompanied by plans for reconstruction which, as to such portion, shall
comply with the requirements set forth above. If such permit is issued, it
shall lapse one year thereafter unless reconstruction in accordance with the
approved plans has been initiated
III. SEVERABILITY
If any clause, sentence, paragraph, section, or part of this Local Law shall be adjudged by any
court of competent jurisdiction to be invalid, the judgment shall not affect the validity of this law
as a whole or any part thereof other than the part so decided to be unconstitutional or invalid.
IV. EFFECTIVE DATE
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August 29, 2017 page 32
This Local Law shall take effect January 1, 2018.
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2017-762
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled
❑ Withdrawn James Dmizio Jr Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt William P Roland Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
VI. Public Hearings
None
Closing Comments
Supervisor Russell
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Would anyone like to address the Town Board on any issue to please
feel free?
Matthew Bloch, East Marion
MATTHEW BLOCH: Matthew Bloch, my wife and I live in East Marion and we have a small
agricultural business, an egg farm in Southold. About, I guess last weekend, I was driving on the
North Road and passed the Southold Town beach and saw a huge Confederate flag flying in the
parking lot of the town beach. and I am sure I am not the only person that has seen this flag kind
of going up and down the roads of the north fork this summer and while I acknowledge that the
Constitution gives private people the right to do whatever they want on their property and to fly
flags from their cars, I don't think that necessarily applies to private people doing the same on
public spaces. In fact, I think the town code regulates the making of speeches in recreational
areas and to the extent that flying the flag is protected is because it is a form of speech. So in
addition to just being kind of mad and sad to see that flag flying in the parking lot, I had two
thoughts. One was, to ask the board to consider clarifying the fact that flying a flag is in fact
allowed at the beaches and if it is not, to direct the parking attendants to turn anyone away who
shows up flying a flag and the second point is, the fact that it may be legal to go up and down the
roads of our community flying the Confederate flag doesn't make it right, so I would ask the
board to reflect on that and if upon reflection feel appropriate to make some form of public
statement to the community that while we cherish the principle that gives people the right to fly
flags like that, we don't agree with what it stands for. Thank you.
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SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Yes, I am just going to quickly say that of course, I don't support or
I recognize what it stands for but some of the rhetoric over the last week or so, I think we need to
walk very carefully because there are constitutional issues that we all need to consider. I think
we need to make our civil liberties our first priority and I think too many people have sort of,
they died defending that and I think we owe it to them to protect those civil liberties and to keep
them from injury. I think that, one of the things that concerns me, if I am not mistaken, Neo-
Nazis, one of their goals is to strip us of our civil liberties and we are better than them and I don't
think we should give in to emotions. I think that once we lose those liberties, we will never get
them back, regardless of how despicable an act might be.
MR. BLOCH: I don't know anything about rhetoric, I have shown up here because 1, you know,
I am on my own, I am not representing anybody.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I understand.
MR. BLOCH: I wasn't suggesting anyone strip anyone of any civil liberties, but again, I think
that if we are going to be an inclusive community, someone needs to stand up and speak to what
that is a symbol of and whether we agree with it or not. I am not suggesting that people don't
have the right to fly their flags and to make their speeches but to do it on a public space without a
permit first of all I think is wrong and I also think it's the responsibility of all of us, including our
elected officials, to make clear how they feel about that flag. You can be respectful about the
civil liberty issue and still disagree, emotionally or not, what the symbol stands for.
COUNCILMAN DINIZIO: I am a little confused, are you saying that somebody posted a
Confederate flag on public property?
MR. BLOCH: They drove their truck onto the beach and sat there with that flag in the parking
lot.
COUNCILMAN DINIZIO: So it was on someone's truck?
MR. BLOCH: Yeah.
COUNCILMAN DINIZIO: So you are opposed to someone flying a flag on a public road?
MR. BLOCH: In a recreational parking lot, understand, the town code today prohibits people
from making speeches in recreational areas, you can't make a speech...
COUNCILMAN DINIZIO: You are saying a flag is making a speech, sir, then why wouldn't an
American flag not be...
MR. BLOCH: The question is whether, again, I am not suggesting that you would deny people a
permit or not, I am saying the rule is, apply for a permit. If you don't have a permit...
COUNCILMAN DINIZIO: But if it was an American flag and someone drives in there with an
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American flag, are you suggesting that we not have that person turned away also?
MR. BLOCH: Again, if the rules are, which I think they are, that you can't make a speech
without a permit, then you get turned away without a permit. And if it was up to the Board or
whoever grants permits, to grant that permit and you know, if(inaudible) I think the basis upon
which to distinguish between an American flag and a Confederate flag and whether you grant a
permit for that or not but the issue there is whether you should grant the permit or not. We can
disagree about whether you should or you shouldn't but if the rule is get a permit, then you
should get a permit. And I venture to say this guy didn't have a permit.
COUNCILMAN DINIZIO: Well, I would be willing to investigate that. I would be willing to
have the Town Attorney look into that and get you an answer.
MR. BLOCH: That was why I suggested it.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Bill, have you, I know you guys have looked into the issue of a flag
on town property, I believe the conclusion was that it was not addressable in the town code.
TOWN ATTORNEY DUFFY: Correct, that was our opinion, that it was a matter of
constitutional rights and we didn't feel we had any right to enforce.
COUNCILMAN DINIZIO: Can I just comment? I think it deserves a formal answer, you know,
mull it over and whatever it comes out and in two weeks, read it quite honestly. I mean, you
have to set it straight. Either way, it doesn't concern me, I am just concerned about are we
having a discussion about a flag or are we having a discussion about what that flag represents?
And that flag represents to some people something and to some others nothing and it might be
offensive to some others and not offensive to others....
MR. BLOCH: Absolutely, absolutely. I am suggesting that I think you are right, there are
actually two questions, there's the one about you know, are we having an argument about
whether you can fly a flag or not (inaudible) and that is what I was suggesting. The first question
is just sort of a technical, legal one and the second is one of how people feel and (inaudible).
COUNCILMAN DINIZIO: Like I said, I would be prepared to have the Town Attorney give a
formal answer on that. A constitutional answer, you know, we do zoning, we don't do
constitutional stuff. 'I don't really know the answer to that question. I don't think you should go
away without an answer.
COUNCILMAN GHOSIO: Well, let me just take it to the next step. Let's say the Town
Attorney does find that we could rule that a person that wants to fly any particular flag on town
property has to apply for a permit and presumably they get the permit, what have we
accomplished except to maybe sensationalize something that, as long as I have lived here, this is
the first time I have seen a confederate flag flown in anybody's truck. Not that it hasn't
happened, I don't know. Are we overreacting to something that isn't a big problem? Are we
sensationalizing it? I don't know. Where do we go from here?
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COUNCILMAN DINIZIO: I think we go to the Town Attorney and let him answer the question.
MR. BLOCH: I mean, I think that this is an interesting conversation which I don't want to take
up everyone's time, including your valuable time more than we already have. I am more than
happy to continue the conversation, which I think should be had, in whatever forum you or
anybody else wants to. I think that those are valid questions, personally I would think that things
start small and then get big so the fact that we haven't seen a rash of confederate flags doesn't
mean that you ignore it when it shows up, I mean, that's just me and I also think that is there is a
permitting process involved, I don't think that it necessarily holds true that there isn't a way to
distinguish between granting a permit if someone wants to fly an American flag and granting a
permit if someone wants to fly a Nazi flag, for example. And where does a confederate flag fall?
Well, maybe somewhere in between but not just all flags get the same treatment. Just like all
speech doesn't get the same treatment. Anyway, I have taken up enough of your time. Thank
you.
Cathy Simicich
CATHY SIMICICH: I just wanted to ask a question. He is trying to say that if he had a flag on
his truck and he went on town property, the flag was on his truck, correct?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: It was, yes.
MS. SIMICICH: He needs a permit to fly that on town property?
COUNCILMAN DINIZIO: I think we should find out that answer, like I said, we do zoning, we
don't do constitutional stuff. So having the discussion without the benefit of having the research
behind it seems premature to me. I know that there's a lot of feelings involved in this and that's
okay, but again, we need to find out what we as a board can, what we can do. Inaudible. We
can't do that if we don't have the benefit of....
MS. SIMICICH: Yeah but the thing is, the thing that you are bringing up is, you are going to
look at everybody's truck and you are going to take everybody's bumper sticker off because it
offends you. And you need a permit, you need a permit.
COUNCILMAN DINIZIO: Well, he is saying that but we need to look at what our code says
and what the federal government says, what the constitution says and then have our discussion
based on that not on what this gentleman says.
MS. SIMICICH: I know what the constitution says. We have a right of free speech.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: What all, I agree.
MS. SIMICICH: If we start this, okay, then you are opening up a can of worms, okay? Go
ahead, then you are going to have everybody, you might as well tell everybody take your
American flag and that's the next thing, if somebody is offended on the American flag. I'm
offended on that black lives matter that's come along, I am offended on that police flag that's
flying by your house. You might as well get rid of that, too. You are opening up a can of worms
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if you listen to him and even look into it.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Let me just say, the issue is a lot simpler than that from Jim's
perspective. The gentleman raised the issue on what he believes the code says, we are asking the
Town Attorney to answer the question. That's all that is.
MS. SIMICICH: Okay.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Okay.
MS. SIMICICH: What does the code say? You should know the code by now, if you had, if he
was talking about over two weeks it's been in the paper, you should have been prepared to find
out what the code was.
COUNCILMAN DINIZIO: No, ma'am, look, we do zoning, that's what we do. That's what our
town attorney deals with on a daily basis, so I am asking him, okay, step outside of that and tell
us what we, as people who do zoning, can answer this gentleman. He is saying our code says
something. Okay, I know our code pretty well, I have been dealing with it 30 years, so I am just
saying, okay, let's just firm up our discussion before we have a discussion on it. I don't even, I
know what I think about it but I am unwilling to say what I think about it until I know what my
constitution says, where I fall on that. And that, no agreement at all with what the gentleman
says,just he raised the question, we should find out what the answer to that question is.
TOWN CLERK NEVILLE: Excuse me, may we have your name for the record please?
MS. SIMICICH: Cathy Simicich.
Peter Harris, Greenport
PETER HARRIS: Good evening, Peter Harris, Greenport. Got a list of questions here for
tonight and my first question is, how much funding has been spent to this point for the road
repaving projects in Southold Town this year?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: A little over$800,000.
MR. HARRIS: $800,000, okay Scott. And we have how much left?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: We have $700,000 of town money. The $800,000 is $350,000 from
the appropriation from the budget and about $500,000, exceeding $500,000, from the CHIPS
program and New York State paves grant.
MR. HARRIS: So you said you have got roughly $700,000 left?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: $700,000 left. I think the budget, we moved $350,000 this evening.
Once we do that...
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MR. HARRIS: That was transferred from highway part town fund, $350,000.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: That would leave about $300,000 in the capital budget which hasn't
been allocated yet.
MR. HARRIS: Okay. Back in November when the Board was talking about putting allt his
money together for resurfacing projects for the year 2017 and the superintendent had given you a
list of roads, is those same roads, that list, is that the list he is using for this year.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Yes, it is.
MR. HARRIS: That answers my first question, Scott. The second thing I have on here, my
question is, why have some roads, that certainly didn't need to be resurfaced, get repaved while
other roads that need to go untouched? As you know, I came to your office, I threw that question
at you and you know, I certainly am not god but I was in the business for 43 years and I served
this town for 12 and when I saw, when I came upon something one day when I was out and
about, I am saying to myself, what in the world we going to pave this road for, there is nothing
wrong with it. I was delivering flowers for Ivy League flowers and I came to the intersection of
Oaklawn and Pine Neck and from the intersection of Pine Neck to the Goose Creek bridge which
is on North Bayview, the road, there was nothing wrong with it. There was absolutely nothing
wrong with this road. Get on the east side of Goose Creek bridge and follow North Bayview
down to the intersection of North Bayview, that road needed to be resurfaced but we probably
paved, I don't know 3/4 of a mile and it didn't need to be done. I mean, at some point down the
road, if there were, if everything was taken care of, roads that were deteriorated had all been
taken care of and we still had funding left over, okay, we say we can go ahead and do this
portion of this main thoroughfare. I had to go up to North Parish Drive, Northfield Drive, that's
where I was headed. The roads are falling apart. But yet we paved, this town, paved a road that
didn't need to be resurfaced. I just don't understand. There's a lot of roads out there that are still
in desperate need of resurfacing. I just, mind boggling and quite honestly, people may not like
what I am going to say, that's poor management. The next thing has got to go with the same
place we just resurfaced. Why would the highway supervisor send a crew out to repaint the
center lines on town roads only to have them covered with asphalt days later? We go out and we
restripe the road and a few days later, now we go out and pave over it. we waste material, we
waste man hours, who's minding the shop here. And I have got to tell you, I think there are
some other roads that are getting ready to get done that the roads have been striped there also.
Poor management. Sound Avenue, single busiest town owned road in Southold, and a section of
it got repaved. It needed to be repaved. I am happy it got repaved. All summer, almost all
summer, they never bothered to go back and put the lines down, so there were these little white
dots all summer long, that's a dark, dark area when you drive up and down that hill. They have
since gone down, they did the center lines but the outer white lines, they haven't been done.
That should have been done no later than a couple of weeks after that project was done. That's a
main travel thoroughfare. Poor management. Just recently, we had a situation where a car on
Bray Avenue, the road was flooded, we all know it's a very bad area, the gentleman, for
whatever reason, he figured he would go and try to drive around, he drove into the sump. A
sump that was dug, there used to be a drainage field there with multiple drainage structures
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buried, it was felt that it would be better done if they would remove those structures, increased
the size of the area with a sump, it could handle more water, great idea. However, why wasn't
there a fence erected around this sump to prevent anyone from getting into it? God forbid, thank
god the superintendent of highways just happened to be coming through that day but more
importantly, what happens if there had been a little child, had gotten out of the house and gotten
into that sump and drowned? This town would be facing one heck of a lawsuit, in my opinion
and I am no lawyer but common sense tells me, it's town owned property, it's a town owned
structure, you let somebody get in there, it's on your dime, somebody would have got sued. Poor
management. Just recently I was, found out that the lease with the Glover family, that the town
leased the barn for storage for town highway equipment, I guess Public Works equipment
whatever, that the town has decided to do away with that lease. The town outside of that new
mechanic building being built, we certainly didn't add any storage space to put equipment when
it's out of season, put it inside to keep it out of the elements, we didn't build anything to do that.
I don't know, I think when I was in office, we were paying $600 a month, roughly $7,200 a year,
I don't know if the rent went up or you know, maybe if the rent went up to $10,000 a year. in
my opinion, $10,000 well spent until the town can put up a building to store their equipment in.
Some of that equipment, I listened to the last work session that's been taped on channel 22 and
you know, some of the older snow fighting equipment, yep, it's old. Still does the job because
the money wasn't there to replace it. but the fact of the matter, when it wasn't being used it
wasn't left out in the elements. It was put away until it was time to use it and then we would put
the street sweepers and the air vacs and everything else, put them away for the winter so they
didn't sit out in mother nature's wrath. So I just don't understand why we would, why we
would, Bill, you are a farmer, is your equipment in your barn? Your tractors, do they sit outside
or you have them in your barns.
COUNCILMAN RULAND: That is correct.
MR. HARRIS: Smart thinking. Because they last longer when you are able to put them in out of
the elements. So the fact that the town doesn't have the moneys to build a facility to put them in,
then again, I don't know what the reason was or what, I am going to say probably by now they
want $10,000 a year. in my opinion, $10,000 is a bargain. And lastly, does the new mechanic
shop building, is that sprinkled? Have a sprinkler system in it? Wood truss construction,
sprinklers in there?
COUNCILMAN RULAND: I don't believe so. The welding shop does.
MR. HARRIS: Yeah but the whole building is wood truss though.
COUNCILMAN RULAND: It's steel covered.
MR. HARRIS: Okay.
COUNCILMAN RULAND: I believe the building inspector determined before construction that
the way it was constructed it wasn't required, except in the welding shop.
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MR. HARRIS: Okay, I will accept that answer, Bill. I just, I had these questions, they have
been bothering me and I just felt I needed to come here and bring this to somebody's attention
because quite honestly, listen, I was here back in November and I said, if I am not mistaken,
there is no one sitting up on that dais that really knew anything about paving, okay? There are
people out there that say, well Harris, he put that micro stuff down. With the amount of money
that the board gave me to work with, that's why Harris put micro down. He did put asphalt
down in areas but I best I could with what I had.
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: That's exactly what I said at work session today.
MR. HARRIS: Because there's people been out there, saying about what Harris did and I said,
not for nothing, I am a big boy. I have got broad shoulders. I didn't do nothing wrong. I did the
best I could with what I had. it's just like when I started buying those New York City Mack
sanders, I think I was paying like an average of$5,000 a piece for them and if you get five years
out of them, that's $1,000 a year. But when that truck is brand new, it's $300,000. Just like Bill
said, the superintendent, he was able to get a couple of those Army surplus trucks and I would
suggest to him or anyone on the board that I would contact the state department of transportation
OGS office in Hauppauge. I had to stop earlier about a month ago in Route 58 yard to complain
about the stop sign at the intersection of the junction of 25, 58 and Main Street, that the thing
was leaning over and had been that way for five days and I called the police department and they
said we notified the state numerous times and I said okay, the one on Bailey Avenue just to the
east was leaning over, end of Jim's Road, they had taken the directional sign for Greenport and
Mattituck going west,they pulled that right out of the ground, so when I walked in the door and I
started to make my request, the lady had just a tiny, tiny attitude problem and then I said, excuse
me ma'am but I worked here for almost 30 years. That was my territory, so I know what I am
talking about. I am not a person just talking to hear myself talk, it's the fact of the matter if it's a
stop sign, a stop sign goes down, it's supposed to be taken care of within 24 hours, not just when
I can get around to it. it's a stop sign, it's a regulatory sign, not just a; wouldn't you know it, that
afternoon they were taken care of. What I was going to say, when I looked out the door, there
was all these brand new trucks they just got. Now the state had, I know they are going to have
surplus trucks they are going to be trying to get rid of. more than likely, some of those Mack's
are going to go, they have got stainless steel bodies, so they won't be rotted out. The state does,
outside of plowing snow and using those trucks for traffic interference to protect a mower or a
sweeper or something, they don't haul material anymore, it might behoove this town board to
have someone get a hold of the state DOT office, the OGS office in Hauppauge because those
trucks are like 10 years old. I think they hold them 10 years now. But they are not going to have
a lot of mileage on them and they are Macks. Bill can tell you a Mack is a very reliable truck.
So, with that I will leave you unless somebody else has anything to say to me.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I just want to address, I know you had come to me the other day to
raise the issue of Oaklawn and Pine Neck. I went and talked to the highway superintendent
about it, that was actually a collaboration with the Suffolk County Water Authority who is
actually paying part of the cost because the patch, they went in and put it over the pipe they ran
was failing so they offered to pay part of the cost. Okay?
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MR. HARRIS: The only thing I will say though, Scott, is now the curb line, you have maybe
that much reveal so your curbs that you had...
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I saw that.
MR. HARRIS: You don't have anymore. Okay.
COUNCILMAN DINIZIO: I would like to say something if I could, you know, last year we
voted to give the Highway Department a large amount of money, Pete and that increase was
about an 8% increase in taxes that this Conservative never thought he would vote for but after
listening to the year after year after year of the highways not getting the money they should have
gotten, I thought that now is the time to start that, to bite that bullet and start putting stuff down
that we can put in. we have the great credit rating, it's a good time, we have a low interest rates
to start spending money on our roads and putting down stuff that lasts 20 years instead of 5, so
that's the reason for that. I saw a minimal amount of money being spent when you were there
and honestly, that should never have occurred. We should have just kept going. Today we got a
list of all the roads that had something put down on them. I am going to go back and research
and get exactly what was put on those roads since 2008, I believe we got the list and you know,
start making a list that can be ongoing and know that we checked it every year to see if these
roads are still good or they need to come up and start grading them a little better. The list that we
got last year was a start, it was a start, okay? It wasn't something as detailed as I would have
liked and I have been asking for but I found in five years of being here that things move slowly,
very slowly. And I know you just have to continue to go, so in defense of the new
superintendent-he's here four years, there seemed to be very little in the way of for him to look
back to see what was going on beforehand, so you know, we are trying to help that situation and
trying to create a history that will move forward and allow us to maintain those roads in a proper
fashion. So I was the one screaming last year, look, we can't keep putting down this slurry,
whatever it was...
MR. HARRIS: Micro-surfacing.
COUNCILMAN HARRIS: You know, we can't keep putting this down if all we are going to
keep getting you know, five or seven years out of it. You know, our roads are only going to be
used more and more, it's not less and less anymore. So I thought we did a good start, this year
we will either continue to spend the kind of money we have for last year and we are going to
have to continue moving forward until we get all the roads properly paved. I think that you can't
just put it all on one person. It changed, good to bad, mismanagement, I don't know. It's hard in
government when you have a change (inaudible) and you know, I just don't think that he got the
proper help that he probably needed to, I am not speaking to his qualifications because people
get elected and when you have people get elected, the people have chosen and we have to work
with those people. So we have what we have, I hope that things continue to improve. I think
that they will because this board is committed to putting the money where it belongs. As far as
the barn is concerned, I don't know. I don't know how that works, so I can't really answer. You
know, I get the idea they should be inside. I don't know if they are now. I was always under the
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impression that there is room now in that yard to put stuff that there wasn't because we did have
our mechanics in one building, that building is still there.
MR. HARRIS: I believe the building is being used for other things. Just a couple more things,
Jim. First of all, this is to Louisa, being as though you are the elected official for Fishers, it is
imperative that you, ever budget year, fight, scratch, claw for a percentage of money to go to that
Island. Because when the money is slim and you have got 400 lane miles here compared to 30
lane miles on the Island and the price of what it costs to go to the Island, I mean, you have got to
stand up Louisa and you have got to say, not for nothing but we are taxpayers too and you have
got to proportionately give us, I mean, there were years that I went over there and we did stuff
and years that I didn't have any money and I had a mess over here, there was no way that I could
take that kind of money to go to Fishers Island to do the work because it just wasn't there. but
being as you are the elected official representing that Island, you need to, when it comes down to
that red marker, when you are going there cutting moneys out of a potential budget, that's where
you need to dig your heels in and say, hey, we need money over here,too.
JUSTICE EVANS: I am hoping with the new system of grading roads and prioritizing, that
maybe that will give a little stronger when the Fishers Island roads show up at the top of the list
as being in the worst shape. I agree with you, they need a lot more attention. It shouldn't be a
matter that it costs three times as much it should be which roads need to be done.
MR. HARRIS: Quite honestly, and I had, I believe I had also said this just prior to getting out,
you should go, I feel the town, it's got to, and this is nothing personal against the superintendent
but he wasn't a highway person when he came to be highway superintendent, okay. I think the
town needs to hire a consultant that that's what he or she does, they go out and they grade that
road from an A to an F and show you what roads, what priority. Listen, from the work that has
been done to this point, I would, almost every road that they did, I would have done if I had the
money. Because they needed to get done and there's still a lot more that needs to get done. But
the only thing negative I will say is that I offered assistance and I was turned down, didn't need
it. So...
COUNCILMAN GHOSIO: I have a question though, related but not directly to what you are
speaking of. we were talking about the micro-surfacing this morning and if I am understanding
right, the price of a barrel of oil directly relates to how much we pay for asphalt, right?
MR. HARRIS: Micro-surface, it wasn't, it was like a polymer. It wasn't, it wasn't asphalt
asphalt. It was a water based polymer.
COUNCILMAN GHOSIO: I know, I know. But my point was, in defense of the micro-
surfacing quite frankly was back when we started to use that, you were using that, it was actually
a good thing because the price of oil was so high, asphalt was astronomical.
MR. HARRIS: Right. Well, Ray Jacobs, my person before me, he used it a lot himself.
COUNCILMAN GHOSIO: Right.
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MR. HARRIS: And we, we sat down and we hashed the pros and the cons and he said, listen,
not for nothing but when the money is tight and you don't have a lot, that stuff goes a long way
and if it can buy you five or six years, then so be it.
COUNCILMAN GHOSIO: Well, my point being is you having done that actually got us
through a period of time where asphalt was very expensive compared to today and that's a good
thing and now we can use asphalt because it's a lot cheaper than it was and maybe get more for
our....
MR. HARRIS: Well, the fact that you budgeted it, you budgeted the money and you did it in a
very diligent way because now a lot of, those roads, some of them roads should anyway, should
have 18-20 year lifespan, okay? A heavy traveled road, maybe 12-15, okay? as long as your
sub-base is good but if you have something that's real spongy or something underneath and you
just go and you put it over the top of it, it's going to be good for now but that will break up
sooner than not. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I know the conversation's going, I just want to say three things.
First, Pete, we acknowledged today that you did the best you could with the micro-surfacing.
We didn't give you a lot. I was actually involved with more budgets than the rest of the
members of the board and I know some years, the asphalt line was as low as $325,000. I think
there was some years it was around $650,000 maybe $675,000 a couple of years but when the
budget got tight, we went to the asphalt line. So I can see that part of the problem we are in
today was not just the winters but maybe not giving the resources we should have to maintain the
level of maintenance. But one thing I do want to address to Councilwoman Evans, is that 16% of
the public roads on Fishers Island have been resurfaced over the past several years. Only 2 % of
the town roads, so I do think the town has been investing in the infrastructure of Fishers Island.
MR. HARRIS: Inaudible.
JUSTICE EVANS: There has been paving done since you left office, too. Not that there
shouldn't be more done.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Please.
Dan Catullo, Mattituck
DAN CATULLO: Hi, hopefully you will have a good evening. This is Dan Catullo, arising
from a five year hiatus. What is old is new again. The speaker at the last meeting who is here
today, brought up an old wound, reopened the wound that I think some of you remember on the
dogs on the beach. Now, it's been viewed with some humor etc. over the years but I found
nothing humorous in it but I did resolve not to come up and make a fuss about it. However, there
were several comments made during that meeting that I thought should be addressed and I am
here to do just that. First of all, this speaker, he felt that Goldsmiths beach was unique in that it
was the depository for all the dogs, the dogs that go to the beach in the Town of Southold. When
I started the whole thing five years ago, I think I was one of the prime movers of the law that
evolved. I complained that Bailie Beach was the dog beach because of the overwhelming
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number of dogs that I observed there, so we are on a similar track. But if you go around now,
you will see that in fact that the dogs aren't really that prevalent, are not that absent from the
other beaches and all congregating at the Goldsmiths beach. Secondly, Councilwoman Doherty
made a statement, a really well measured statement at the last meeting where she felt that every
dog at every public property place in Southold should be on the leash at all times. Very good. I
agree with that. Get to that later. Supervisor Russell made a statement, the law that was passed
in 2012 was a flawed law, it had some imperfections but it was better than what pre-existed
which was no law at all, there was nothing on the (inaudible) as far as the dogs on the beach
business was going on. Now let me take each of these things in turn. First, if you go to a beach,
any beach that surrounds the town and we have plenty of them, you will see that there are dogs,
they are happily playing and running about, different times, different concentrations. It doesn't
seem like there's an inordinate flow or not a total flow towards Goldsmiths and to say that it's
the dog beach is not accurate. Okay, so as far as my own personal involvement having been the
victim of a dog attack that perhaps initiated this whole business five years ago, I came to many
of the meetings and was involved with newspaper articles etc. and never found that there was
any specific targeting of Goldsmiths for dog deposits and I think again, that's something that we
have to deal with as far as the fact that dogs are widespread throughout the town and Supervisor
Russell's taking Councilwoman Jill Doherty, her speeches seem directed by common sense, by
logic, when she said at the last meeting, dogs, all dogs, should be leashed while on town
property. But the amnesia that seems to have set in that she voted for the law at that time that
exempts dogs from leashing 92% of the time just amazing, during the time of the summer
bathing season.
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: I disagree with that because as I read the code, it says that a
dog shall be tethered, or I forgot the exact words I don't have them in front of me right now, that
on public property at dog should not be running at large.
MR. CATULLO: Right.
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: The code says that.
MR. CATULLO: But on beaches, but the specifics of, the beach problem was specific. The
problem about the town universally is acceptable, every dog on public property should be
leashed but the law that was passed as a result of all these dog debates in 2012 were specifically
there were what I call a temporal safety perimeter, a fancy name for saying that in a time ring
there was a mandate for dog leashes, 9:00 in the morning to 5:00 in the evening on the three
summer months when bathers were on the beach, that's fine, okay, we deal with that. but outside
of that.....
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: No, the interpretation of that is wrong. The 9-5 is on beaches
were there is a lifeguard which is 9-5 in the code, actually they don't get there until 10:30 now
but while there is a lifeguard on duty, there is not a dog allowed on that particular beach, that's
what that 9-5 was. I don't have the code in front of me, so I am not going to argue...
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MR. CATULLO: I got really involved in this and that was not the interpretation I had. I had, on
the beach adjacent to my property where I was attacked, right on my property on the beach, right
off the Bailie beach area, those dogs attacked me. I went into this in great detail, I talked to you
personally, I think at the library my wife and 1.
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: Yes.
MR. CATULLO: And I didn't take that away from it, and again, what I took away from it was
that from 9-5 there was nothing in reference to whether there are lifeguards or not. There are
select places where lifeguards are and so I didn't get involved in that because there are no
lifeguards at my beach, Bailie beach and they weren't involved therefore and the problem that I
had when I was fighting off two savage attacks, simultaneous attacks, so again, you have thrown
me a curve there on the lifeguard issue. Maybe Bob can clarify that but at any rate, what I did
like was your initial statement in the meeting two weeks ago was that dogs should be on leashes
on public, town property. Excellent. I will get back to that in a minute. I just wanted to mention
about the supervisor who had the, he had mentioned a law that, the 2012 law that had been put a
restriction, though lax,though imperfect, on dogs on the beach was fine because it was compared
to no law at all which pre-existed and that's wrong. There was a law because of my insistence
and perhaps annoying nature in trying to get some justice on this thing after the attack on me, I
think I initiated some research on this and it came up that a long forgotten law, shouldn't have
been forgotten, that claimed and was still in effect at that time and for years before actually, that
all dogs at all times, under all circumstances whatever, are not allowed on the beaches. Anyway,
anyhow. That was very dramatic, I think you all now must remember it, I mentioned this
because I think you were afflicted with the same amnesia that Jill was on these points that this
was then, these points were voted in ignorance of that law perhaps or certainly ignoring it. and it
shouldn't have been. The law itself is illogical anyway. If you are standing on the beach at two
minutes to 5 in the afternoon, you like the sound of the water against the sand, you are waiting
for sunset and two three minutes later, suddenly the entire safety status changes. Without
moving an inch of your foot, you now go from being under the protective umbrella of a leash law
to outside again of what did I call it? The temporal safety perimeter and now dogs can be
unleashed and do whatever they want. Again, that's disconcerting because a law just shouldn't
be so unsettling. And the speaker has no problem, according to him dogs on the beach whether
leashed or not don't bother him and yet he seemed very agitated by an incident he mentioned at
the last meeting where four dogs were running amok among a crowd of two or three dozen
people, including children, in what he called potential disaster was in the works. Well, that's
valid. I understand that but the two things can't be reconciled. He was very angry there was no
law enforcement about the leash-less dogs running about and yet he is not bothered by dogs on
the beach...
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I am going to cut you off and say it's not for you to disparage the
comments of another speaker who exercised his right to address this board. If you have issues,
you need to address the board, if you have issues with comments made by me or Councilwoman
Doherty please feel free. But it is not your role to come up here and disparage someone else, a
member of the public, who has every bit the right to speak as you do.
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MR. CATULLO: Okay, that's valid. I admire him and a lot of his stances and in fact, I
mentioned beforehand not to take this personally but I will agree with that, fine. I will drop off
that. The town realizes that there is a problem with leash-less dogs, I mean, it's an almost
universal stance that all dogs throughout town on public property, as Jill had said, must be
leashed. I said almost. The almost meaning of course there are exceptions and the exception we
are dealing with is beaches. Why are dogs allowed on the beach when they aren't anywhere
else? That really doesn't make sense, that's why I was saying it's not very logical. At the beach,
people aren't wearing shoes, they are not wearing very heavy clothes, they are not really
protected from the intrusions of a dog, his claws and his teeth, and so they are actually much
more vulnerable to a dog attack on the beach then they are in a park or on a road anywhere else
in town. Yet, the beach is where in this perimeter that I mentioned, they are exempt at that time
period. It sounds silly to me, I think there is something or someone interpreted something years
ago that something happens to a dog when it gets within sight and sound of the surf and sea
where his entire physiology is altered, his entire behavior, his instincts are all somehow altered
where he is (inaudible) incapable of attack, release him from the leash. The dog will go do what
dogs can do. Makes no sense, check physiology books. Inaudible. Don't understand it.
Enforcement was discussed both at the work session and at the last meeting, it's very
discouraging. Most of the enforcement issues were about garbage scofflaws, but some of them
were about dog issues. You always have the characters that are not going to follow the rules but
if the old law, the old rule had been in effect which Scott, you said didn't exist which in fact was
on the books even though it wasn't in effect through the virtue of no one knowing or enforcing it,
if this law had been in effect, enforcing it would have been easy. You walk to the beach, there's
a dog, there's somebody adjacent to the dog. Okay, the connection is there, the law is no dog is
supposed to be there. it's simple, get a witness or a photograph, get a cop, get a fine placed and
has been mentioned at the last meeting, enough of these fines and even the most dense of
intruders or violators will finally get the message. On a basis of the new law, you have a lot of
arbitrary things going on. First off, is there a leash on the dog? Second, is it just adjacent to the
dog or not there at all? is the dog, the length of the leash really valid or does he have a 30 foot
leash on which is useless. Is the dog's leash within the time parameters that I mentioned? The 9
to 5 deal. Is it within the month, not November but August? So we have another thing to debate.
There's an enforcement problem there as well, where it was so simple in the harsher, admittedly
harsher law that was provided during the length of the first law that was in place. So again, I
think I have addressed whatever came up in the last issue there and made my statements as far as
(inaudible). When I was here in the past, I was very discouraged by it. I haven't been to the
beach very much since. I have gotten the conditioned response, pavlovian response to just stay
away because of the very unhappy circumstances of that whole incident. But just remember one
thing, the way the law stands now, 8% of less than 100% of the time that a dog is allowed to be
without a less, less than 8% of always. 8% of always these dogs are allowed to run free on
Southold Town beaches. And that's it. I don't k now if you have any comments or contras or
what.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Thank you. Just quickly before you go, the gentleman from East
Marion, I misspoke earlier. I didn't imply that you were espousing rhetoric in fact, I think the
discussion that's taken place the past few weeks on the issue is good but it just hasn't been civil
in other forums, not yours. And that's the unfortunate thing. Robert?
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Robert Dunn
MR. DUNN: I am going to be quick. This dog issue isn't over. I had planned on speaking
tonight about it anyway, it wasn't anything Mr. Catulla said, I believe there may be some
confusion about what we are actually saying now. The signs on the town beaches, on Kenney's
beach and on McCabe's beach say no dogs 9to 5 without a leash. Then there's a second sign that
says no dogs while lifeguards are on duty. I assume it's the same thing at New Suffolk.
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: We are going to have to review that.
MR. DUNN: And what that has done in fact, has created a reason for people to go to Goldsmiths
with their dog because they can't go to these other beaches. They may also be going to some of
the road ends like Mr. Catulla's. He is actually on a road end, Bailie beach proper is part of
Mattituck Park District, doesn't allow dogs. And I believe what's happening now and this is
really annoying me is some of the attendants are telling people you can't bring a dog on this
beach, you can go to Goldsmiths. So we have got to address this thing and whatever we have to
have, whatever the rules are for the town beaches,,whatever the rules are for any beaches,
whatever the rules are at road ends, needs to be the same town-wide. It may be a
misunderstanding what I said, I like seeing the dogs on the beach, I like seeing them running
free. I really don't mind it but I think there's a time and a place for it all and maybe the time and
place is not in the daytime, maybe the time and the place is not in the summer on any town beach
they need to be on a leash at all times. And then it's got to be enforced, vigorously. And if it
isn't followed, then there's no dogs on the beach at all, so it's their choice. If everybody is not
going to practice what the rule is,then the dogs have got to go. But right now I know that people
are sending people with dogs to Goldsmiths. Because they won't let them go on the other beach
and they stand there at the gate and say, oh, I can't? I always did, well, you can't do it here no
more but you can go to Goldsmiths. I went the other day, there were four families with dogs,
two of them came in cars with Mattituck Park district labels on it, they also had Southold Town,
so they had the right to be there but what people are doing is coming to Goldsmiths because you
can't go anywhere else with a dog in the daytime. Now at night, you can go where you want to
go or after 5:00. Or when there's no lifeguards, so we have created a little monster here and the
whole thing needs to be revisited. I know it kind of became a, Mr. Catullo was right, it kind of
became a joke about this whole thing of dogs and the beach but if you live there and you have
got to listen to dogs bark or you have got to listen to some crazy lady running around the parking
lot saying I can't get my dog, he won't listen to me and he is running away, lady, the sign here
says he is supposed to be on a leash and she looks at you like you have got three heads. I don't
want to call the police about a lady whose dog is not on a leash, that's crazy. You need to pay
that kind of money for someone walking around, you know the point I am making, we don't
need to send a cop for someone with a dog. Either they are allowed or they are not allowed and
if they can't play right, then they are not allowed. It's that simple. The other thing I wanted to
ask you, the plastic, well, can I get some feedback on this dog issue?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I will be the first to agree with you, I am as guilty as anybody for
trivializing the issue of the past years. I am probably as guilty as anybody for doing that because
it was a rather comical issue, it became so large and once we got past it, I am guilty. I'll give
you that, I am guilty.
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MR. DUNN: And I truly feel for the dog owners. I know, there are a number of people on Mill
Lane that regularly walk their dogs past my house, I watch them, I got a big huge 6 window TV
set in my living room and I know everything that goes on there. I know all the dogs, I know all
the people, they see me out there, as some of you know, I have done a lot of work on the beach
there, so people know me too and they don't go on the beach. Who goes on the beach is the
people that come from other areas, they go in their car and they sit on the beach. Most of the
people that live there, they don't want to bring their, there is one person, his dogs are always out
on the leash, they don't go out of the house without a leash. It's people are coming from other
places because they can't take their dogs on the beach there and I am sure there are other places
besides Goldsmiths, perhaps Bailie's beach, the road end and some of the other road ends that
are suffering the same problems. People are going there and then abusing that and those beaches
are unattended, so nobody is chasing them away and nobody is doing anything. and if you go
out and say something to someone, they get nasty with you. you don't want to call the police
about a dumb dog.
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: I remember when we did this, it was very difficult and we
tried to balance it out with all the comments that were made...
MR. DUNN: It isn't balanced.
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: And I remember saying when I did vote for it, that we will be
revisiting this one day because...
MR. DUNN: We are. We are. And I am not going to let it go, I am speaking for myself and I
am maybe implying for someone else. I am not letting this one go. And I hope that some of the
dog owners come in, too. There were some very vocal people here on the dog side when that
happened but we need to come to mutual understanding that has got to be town-wide, we can't
exempt one beach from the rule. We can't exempt the road ends from the rule. It needs to be
town-wide.
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: But understand that we cannot dictate to the park districts of
what they, what their rules are.
MR. DUNN: No, you can't but you can dictate about the town beaches.
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: Yes but not the park districts.
MR. DUNN: And if the park districts are going to ban them, that's their right and we don't have
to meet their law.
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: Right. right.
MR. DUNN: And I fully defend that. that's their property. Just like the people that own beach
front, that's their property. They have got a right to decide what happens on their property, no
question about that. it's park districts shouldn't be sending people to Goldsmiths because, oh,
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you want to take your dog to the beach, go to Goldsmiths because, or you want to take your dog
to the beach, got to Goldsmiths, you can't come here. And I believe that that's going on. I can't
prove it but I can just tell you, all of a sudden I am seeing Mattituck Park district tags at
Goldsmiths beach and do go out and check stickers because I come here often enough and you
know it, complaining about how many cars are there without stickers. So you know I am
checking stickers. There's no lie there. So I was really surprised and I then I realized
(inaudible). I mean, I am out there watering plants that I planted, so I check to see who it was,
they were four families all with their dogs. They said, oh, let's go to the beach today with our
dogs and that's fine, but then they shouldn't be able to go to any beach, not just Goldsmiths. So
that no one beach would have to suffer. I don't want to ban dogs from the beach, don't want that
to happen. I don't think that's fair to the 95% of dog owners that live in this town that pick up
after them, that keep them on a leash,they shouldn't be punished by the 5%that...
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: I agree.
MR. DUNN: Okay. So the plastic things that people put hooks in? What are those? Who put
those up?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: There's a couple of Scouts that put those up, I think there's a couple
of organizations....
COUNCILMAN GHOSIO: The fishing lines.
MR. DUNN: Yeah, yeah.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: A couple of different organizations that had done it over the years.
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: The latest was the environmental.....
MR. DUNN: It's been a bad thing. Either somebody has got to pick it up or you need to take
those things down because it's just become garbage pits and I didn't mind cleaning it out on a
weekly basis, as I have done for two years now, until last week when it got clogged and I had to
reach in and it was a diaper.
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: Yeah, I knew that was going to happen. DPW has contacted
environmental...
MR. DUNN: That's not their job.
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: Yes, I know but they have contacted an environmental group,
I don't want to say which one because I am not sure.
MR. DUNN: You don't have to.
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COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: This year, but I can ask Jeff to make sure he contacts them to
find out...
MR. DUNN: Either they are going to do it or they are not going to do it. and if they are not
going to do it,take them out.
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: I agree.
MR. DUNN: Because what happens, worse than that they get stuffed with garbage, you look
around the ground all over, fishing hooks.
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: Yeah.
MR. DUNN: On the beach, where everyone is walking barefoot. It was a good intention that a
15 year old had and now he is in college and he can't clean them up, so we need to follow up on
that one. And I had something else but I forgot. I got wrapped up in the dogs but it will come to
me next time.
Charlene Catullo, Mattituck
CHARLENE CATULLO: Charlene Catullo, Bailie Beach Road. I am up here today after last
weeks meeting and I just want to say, the law went through in 2012, I was not pleased with it,
especially the times I can walk on the beach is when the dogs are allowed, as I work. So
technically, most of the majority of my free time, the dogs are allowed on the beach which in
essence is my front lawn because we do own beach front property. So I have taken to the
weekends recently walking the beach between the hours of 9 and 5 when the dogs are supposed
to be leashed. There has not been one Sunday morning that I could walk that I have not
encountered a dog off the leash. I have been told people, they are allowed on the beach, I said
your dog needs to be leashed between 9 and 5 and I have had people that would argue, give an
argument and I said, can you read the sign? Because the sign is at Bailie's beach, you said that
that's the Mattituck Park district and I am a bit confused because there's a sign up there that says
beach access, public beach access. On there I don't think is the dog thing, there's another
smaller sign but if you go to the left, I am assuming that's where the Mattituck Park district is
and all various laws apply, so where the dogs can roam, is that just straight ahead? Because to
the right of that would be a lot of people that own beach front. I am not certain, are dogs allowed
to walk there if they are below the high tide? I just find it very disappointing that this whole
thing came into existence. I don't mind dogs being leashed, our next door neighbor has a dog, a
very good dog. I have no problem with that. It's when you don't know what to expect when you
are walking. I had a girlfriend, and before the law was passed I brought this up, that I have
encountered dogs, I had dogs but her dog, I was sitting there talking to her mother and I brought
this up, all of a sudden leaped at my neck. I will never feel the same way about dogs because
you never know how a dog is going to react. And as my husband said, is there something
magical about a time period? That we don't have to worry about dogs, so that they are allowed
to be unleashed. I am not certain the thought that went into that. Dogs leashed are one thing.
Certainly wouldn't have any negative opinion about a dog being on a leash on the beach. They
are in their control. Dog came running up, most people say oh, he's friendly and I just say I
don't really like dogs that I am not familiar with and they will take it. But I shouldn't have to do
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this. my walk on a Sunday morning should not have to be whether or not I am going to
encounter a dog and how that dog is going to respond. Especially when I am doing what the law
says, between 9 and 5. Not a good thing and I am here today because I wanted you to know my
opinion. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Thank you.
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: Thank you.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Anybody else?
Robert Dunn
MR. DUNN: Just one more thing because I remembered. This whole thing is about
enforcement. Saw another story in yesterday's Newsday about a garbage issue. And as Ms.
Catullo said, what I said last week or last meeting and I will say it again, if you give out a few
tickets and maybe it means putting an officer in plain clothes, riding around in an unmarked car,
to sit on the beach and catch people putting garbage in a can or running a dog and you give out
10 tickets, the problem is going to go away.
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: But they also have to continue to do that and be consistent
with it. They can't just....
MR. DUNN: Consistent in surprising them. So it doesn't have to be every Saturday.
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: Yeah.
MR. DUNN: It could be this Saturday, next Thursday, a month from now on a Tuesday. It
doesn't matter,just that people know, I have to watch out.
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: But they also have to make sure when they go down there,
they don't just drive around and leave and people go, oh, he didn't write tickets this time.
MR. DUNN: I am telling you right now, go to Goldsmiths beach, any weekend, any weekend
day not during the week, it's not so bad during the week, go there any weekend day and you will
see a dog unleashed, running around in the water and you have got a floater going by.
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: I see it on other beaches with lifeguards.
MR. DUNN: Well, I don't know why that happens. There's a lifeguard there, what's he doing?
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: Supposed to tell them what the law is...
MR. DUNN: And if they don't listen, he can call. Okay?
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: But they don't.
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MR. DUNN: Then they shouldn't have a job.
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: I agree with you. We pay them well...
MR. DUNN: End of story.
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: That's their job.
MR. DUNN: It's what they are paid, this is your job, do it or you're fired. Now this is your job,
here's your assignment for this week, Officer X, you are getting an unmarked car in civilian
clothes, go write some tickets. If you can't write tickets, then we don't need your job.
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: I agree with you.
MR. DUNN: And I mean, I am not blaming the officers, I am saying give them the time, give
them whatever is required to do it. write a couple of those $1,000 tickets for garbage, write a
couple of dog tickets and the problem is going to go away. It will. These people who are putting
garbage in a (inaudible) because they don't want to spend $2.50 for a bag and $15.00 for a
sticker. What do you think they are going to do when they have got to spend $1,000 for a ticket?
They are going to stop real quick. Thank you.
Supervisor Russell
SUPERVISOR `RUSSELL: Would anybody else like to address the Town Board? (No
response)
Motion To: Adjourn Town Board Meeting
RESOLVED that this meeting of the Southold Town Board be and hereby is declared adjourned
at 9:13P.M.
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Eliz h A.Neville
Southold Town Clerk
RESULT: ADOPTED [UNANIMOUS]
MOVER: Louisa P. Evans, Justice
SECONDER:Jill Doherty, Councilwoman
AYES: Dinizio Jr, Ruland, Doherty, Ghosio, Evans, Russell