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Southold Town Hall
August 20, 2017 Meeting
Called to Order: 10:01 AM by Chairman Neb Brashich.
Members Present
Councilman William Ruland, Town Engineer Jamie Richter, Police Chief Martin Flatley, Planner
Brian Cummings, Frank Field, Nick Mazzaferro, Jim Baker, Jim Kalin, Greenport Trustee Mary
Bess Phillips and Tom Fox.
Approval of July 17, 2017 Meeting Minutes
A motion to approve the minutes was made by Jim Baker, was seconded by Frank Field and
was carried.
Town-Wide Parking Problems — Draft Parking Options Review
Jim Baker sent Heather Lanza comments on the draft outline Transportation and Infrastructure
Chapter of the Town Comprehensive Plan.
A list of"parking wants and needs" was submitted by the New Suffolk Civic Association. After a
comprehensive discussion of that memo and the previously discussed parking and traffic control
proposals (resident and seasonal non-resident vehicle parking stickers and road-end parking
signage), it was the consensus that the outline draft and the NCSA memo should be submitted
to the Code Committee for its comment and guidance at a meeting to be arranged.
Jim Baker will approach local businesses concerning truck traffic in the NS business district,
with emphasis on truck routing, truck lengths, as well as on truck delivery days.
Tom Fox suggested that parking regulation proposals for New Suffolk might be a template for
the future discussion of other town-wide parking issues and Councilman Ruland advised that
the Town's Mattituck parking lots will be reconfigured and restriped.
Ms. Phillips advised that the parking situation in Greenport had improved as the result of an
increase in the issuance of parking tickets by traffic control officers and vigorous code
enforcement.
Public Requests
S92 Service
Jim Kalin drafted a letter in response to a concerned citizen's comments concerning service
improvements on that route. Neb will reply to the resident.
Route 48 and Chapel Lane Sign Request, Greenport - Update
A concerned local resident had previously requested the installation of"Dangerous Curve"
signage in the vicinity of that intersection. Jamie Richter observed that the issue may be
considered as part of the reworking and repaving of Route 48, possibly including a "land swap"
arrangement between the owners of the Soundview Restaurant and SCDPW to enhance
pedestrians crossing the roadway at that location. The request should be forwarded to SCDPW
for review and action.
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Request for a Traffic Signal — Boisseau Avenue and SR25 - Southold
Chief Flatley advised that his review of motor vehicle accidents over the past three years at that
intersection had revealed a total of 21 MVA's. 14 were parking-related due to business at that
intersection, 3 involved rear end accidents of vehicles stopped for a turn, 1 involved a U-turn in
front of a motorist, 2 involved sideswipes of parked cars and 1 involved a deer.
On that basis, he thought that a traffic light might not be warranted at that intersection and that
while egress from Boisseau Avenue on to Route 25 might be made easier, it would significantly
slow down traffic on Route 25 in Southold Village during the busy summer months.
Councilman Ruland will discuss the matter further with Mullen Motors.
Supervisor, Town Board & Town Trustees Requests
Boat Ramp at Hashamomuck Creek Update - Southold
There has been no response to date to Neb's letter of July 18, 2017 to NYS and SC legislators,
which summarized the Town's traffic safety concerns about NYSDEC's proposal for a boat ramp
at that location.
Main Street Traffic Signage Requests - Greenport
Neb's memo of July 24, 2017 to the Supervisor advised that VGPT will submit a formal request
for signage at the following locations:
Southbound Route 25 at Washington Avenue
Eastbound route 25 at the Catholic School
Northbound on 3 d Street at the Ferry
Subsequently, Chief Flatley reported that SPD had monitored traffic in the area and found that
traffic speeds were in the range of 30 MPH and that current signage appeared to be sufficient.
No Parking on Southside of Main Bayview Road (Pine Neck Road to Main Road) —Southold
Final
Neb's memo of July 24, 2017 to the Supervisor advised that neither several Commissioners nor
SPD officers had observed any parking problems resulting from customers patronizing the Gulf
gas station on the north side of that roadway.
Request for Full Traffic Light or Traffic Circle— Intersection of CR48 and Main Street—
Greenport - Final
Neb's memo of July 24, 2017 to the Supervisor advised that the Commission had previously
considered the matter at several meetings, without effective resolution. However, Neb also
proposed that:
• The Town and Village should discuss the current situation and prepare a joint document
outlining the parameters of the problem;
• NYSDOT and SCDPW should be invited next to participate in formulating a plan of
action; and,
• As the Village has no funds available, request that$50,000 be earmarked for a traffic
study in the Town Engineering Budget (akin to what was done for the Love Lane
project); and,
• Subsequently, the Town and Village should jointly prepare a grant request for federal
funding —a round-about as best option or at least a full traffic light as an alternative.
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Ms. Phillips suggested that improvements to Main Street leading to that intersection should be
considered as part of the above issue. She also suggested that a joint grant for a traffic study
by the Village and the North Ferry should be reallocated from the $283,000 which is currently on
hold. In the meantime, the PSEG construction project after the Maritime festival may impact the
traffic situation.
It was also suggested that the VGP "White Paper"written by Neb and Derryl Baumer should be
revisited concerning the North Ferry traffic issue. Neb, Jaime Richter and Ms. Phillips will meet
after Labor Day concerning funding for the matters.
Planning Board Requests
Town Comprehensive Plan
Brian Cummings will discuss with Heather Lanza concerning the issue of further input/help from
the Commission after its meeting with Code Committee.
Current Transportation Issues - Updates
Southold / Greenport Bus Shelters—Awaiting SCDPW Response— No Installation Contract
Neb discussed the matter with a SCDPW rep concerning status of this issue. The SCDPW rep
advised that there was no contract from that agency for installation of the shelters. A situation
report is due.
Old Business
North Fork Promotion Council - North Fork Trolley Shuttle Proposal for Southold Town —
Duncan Kennedy, Chairman — NFPC —Awaiting Trial Results
Mr. Kennedy is expected to report on the results of the pilot program to run from Labor Day
weekend to November 2017 between 12:00 PM and 8:00 PM on a half-hourly schedule
between Mattituck and Southold.
Parallel Parking on 1St Street— New Suffolk
Although the striping of a double of a yellow line in the middle of the roadway has been
completed, white line striping at the edge of the roadway is still outstanding. The placement of
parallel parking signage would also be required.
Peconic Water Taxi Proposal
On August 2, 2017, Tom Fox met with NYS Assemblyman Palumbo and his legislative aides to
discuss the proposal, which is based on the original 2003 draft proposal. His reaction was very
positive and suggested that funds may be available for a feasibility study and the matter should
be placed on the agenda for the next EES&MA meeting in October. The original proposal will
need further refinement, given the change in East End transportation usage.
New Business
Request for a Stop Sign at the Southeast Corner of Main Bay View Road and Cedar Beach
Road - Southold
The Cedar Beach Park Association has submitted a petition from local residents seeking a Stop
sign at that intersection due to a "dangerous curve" leading to the public Cedar Beach. The
petition is also supported by the West Lake Association, Inc., a nearby homeowners
association. Councilman Ruland will inspect that location and advise his findings.
Next Meeting
The next meeting is scheduled for Monday, September 18, 2017 at 10:00 AM in the conference
room at Town Hall.
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Adjournment
The meeting was adjourned at 11:45 AM.
cc: Town Clerk
Respectfully submitted,
Thomas F. Fox
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TRANSPORTER COMMITTE
SOUTHOLD,New York
Dear Committee:
I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU FOR A COUPLE OF SPEED SIGNS TO BE PUT ON
MARYS ROAD IN MATTITUCK WHICH IS NEAR THE HIGH SCHOOL. WHEN
GAMES ARE PLAYED„CARS ARE PARKED BY THE FENCE. THE SPEED ON
THIS ROAD IS GETTING BAD AN NEEDS TO SLOW THE CARS DOWN DURING
SCHOOL DAYS. ALSO DURING LUNCH TIME WHEN CARS LEAVE USING
THIS ROAD.
HOPING TO HEAR AN SEE SIGNS FOR SAFETY.
ohn Wilcenski
385 Mary's Road
Mattituck,New.York.
631-298-8655
MVA stats for Rt.25 Southold https://webtop.webmail.optimum.net/viewmessage?r=<request><mail..
From: "Flatley, Martin" <mflatley@town.southold.ny.us>
To: "Neboysha Brashich (n rbl @opton line.net)" <nrbl @opton line.net>
Date: 07/21/2017 09:34:48 AM
Subject: MVA stats for Rt. 25 Southold
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Neb,
I believe this was a request of the Transportation Commission for MVA stats at Rt. 25 and Boisseau Avenue,
Southold? I went back three years and found the following:
o That there were 21 MVA reports taken at the intersection of Rt. 25 and Hobart/Boisseau
o Out of the 21 MVA reports, 14 were parking-related because of the businesses at this intersection (Founders Tavern,
Wayside Market, Grateful Deli, Southold Beverage).
o Out of the remaining 7 MVAs,three were rear end accidents involving someone stopped for a turn.
o Out of the remaining 4 MVAs, one was a vehicle making a U-turn in front of a motorist,two were vehicles that
sideswiped a parked car, and the last was a MVA deer.
At first glance, it appears that a traffic light at this intersection might not be warranted based on traffic MVA data. It
may make it easier to get out of Boisseau Avenue onto Rt. 25, but I also think it would significantly slow down the
traffic on Rt. 25 in Southold Village during the busy summer months.
Martin Flatley,Chief of Police
Southold Town Police Department
41405 State Route 25
Peconic, New York 11958
631-765-3115
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MVA stats for Rt.25 Southold https://webtop.webmail.optimum.net/viewmessage?r=<request><mail..
From: "Flatley, Martin" <mflatley@town.southold.ny.us>
To: "Neboysha Brashich (nrbl@optonline.net)" <nrbl@optonline.net>
Date: 07/21/2017 09:34:48 AM
Subject: MVA stats for Rt. 25 Southold
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Neb,
I believe this was a request of the Transportation Commission for MVA stats at Rt. 25 and Boisseau Avenue,
Southold? I went back three years and found the following:
o That there were 21 MVA reports taken at the intersection of Rt. 25 and Hobart/Boisseau
o Out of the 21 MVA reports, 14 were parking-related because of the businesses at this intersection (Founders Tavern,
Wayside Market, Grateful Deli, Southold Beverage).
o Out of the remaining 7 MVAs,three were rear end accidents involving someone stopped for a turn.
o Out of the remaining 4 MVAs, one was a vehicle making a U-turn in front of a motorist,two were vehicles that
sideswiped a parked car, and the last was a MVA deer.
At first glance, it appears that a traffic light at this intersection might not be warranted based on traffic MVA data. It
may make it easier to get out of Boisseau Avenue onto Rt. 25, but I also think it would significantly slow down the
traffic on Rt. 25 in Southold Village during the busy summer months.
Martin Flatley, Chief of Police
Southold Town Police Department
41405 State Route 25
Peconic, New York 11958
631-765-3115
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Neboysha R. Brashich
Chairman
Southold Transportation Commission
Town Hall, P.O. Box 1179
53095 Main Road
Southold, NY 11971-0959
Re-Alignment of Intersection
Route 25 at Old Main Road
Southold
Case No. 179230TC
Tag No. 17-0263
COM 17-17878
Dear Chairman Brashich:
have received your letter expressing your concerns regarding the NYS DEC
proposed new boat ramp facility at NY Route 25 and Old Main Road in Southold. I have
ordered an investigation and it will be completed as expeditiously as possible. I will
notify you of our decision shortly after the conclusion of our study.
I thank you for your interest in transportation safety. If you have any further
questions or need additional information, please feel free to contact me or Nicole Jones,
the Long Island Director of External and Government Relations, at (631) 952-6632.
Sincerely,
Joseph T. Brown
Regional Director
cc: Nicole Jones, Director of External and Government Relations
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50 Wolf Road,Albany,NY 12232 1 www dot ny gov
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P.0.Box 1179
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Southold,NY 11971-0959
Phone(631)765-1889
fax(63 1)765-1823
August 21, 2017
Mr. Ben Gonzalez
575 Ackerley Pond Lane
Southold, New York 11971
Dear Mr. Gonzalez:
Please forgive us for not responding to your February 10, 2017 memorandum on
the subject of public transportation on the North Fork. A number of events
interfered, including my absence from the North Fork as well as the time required
to provide you with the latest information available. The Transportation
Commission is not a Suffolk County authority but rather a Town of Southold
entity.
The following is in the format of your questions:
• "When is the bus arriving?"
Suffolk Transit has now installed an Automated Vehicle Locator (AVL)
system on all fixed route transit buses. The system allows Suffolk Transit
and its three (3) contract operators to track the buses in real time. Buses
running early or late as easily identified. The information obtained will be
used to adjust future schedules and running times.
This AVL system will be available to customers using an application on
their smart phone or other device.
e "Why is the bus late?"
A study conducted by the Volpe Institute in 2004 of the Suffolk Transit
system suggested the splitting of the S92 route into two (2) separate
routes. The S92 would run from Orient Point to Riverhead and a new
route, the S93 would run from East Hampton to Riverhead. To date, this
change remains a suggestion.
The history of the S92 starts in 1937 when the Sunrise Coach Lines took
over a route from Orient Point to the Quogue railroad station. This route
serviced passengers to and from NYC and New England via the ferry
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service from Orient Point to New London. In the years that followed the
service was changed to serve the South Fork and eventually extended to
East Hampton. The route has remained essentially unchanged since then.
• "There is a bus on the North Fork?"
Marketing a transit system might help attract new riders. The one slogan
to remember from the early days of Suffolk Transit is "Every corner is a
bus stop!" Sunrise Coach Lines in its early years had two slogans — "It's
cheaper by far than taking your car" and "Be wise, ride Sunrise".
In the past few months, Suffolk Transit has made some significant
upgrades to the transit system. New fare boxes now installed on all buses
will accept up to and including $20 bills and issue fare cards with the
change for future use. Suffolk Transit recently placed into service thirty
(30) new diesel/electric hybrid buses, ten (10) for use exclusively on the
S92. These new buses have increased passenger capacity and have
replaced, older, smaller buses. With the,new buses in service now, all S92
buses are "low floor" buses for ease of accessibility for all passengers.
We sincerely hope that this information will ease some of the concerns raised in
your memorandum and assure you that we will continue to monitor future
developments.
Sincerely,
Neboysha R. Brashich
Chairman