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Home My WebLink About07/2016 Elizabeth Thompson,Chairperson Town Hall Annex Reynolds duPont,Jr. �,�,�'��:�� 54375 Route 25 Joseph Lee �` ��"��"� PO Box 1179 Ronald McGreevy �� '� Southold,NY 11971 Nicholas Planamento � � ' Mark Schwartz �,� � � Fax(631)765-6641 Stephen Geraci ��"",�� ,,�+��`' Telephone: (631)765 - 1892 Patricia Butler ��.:��.��' southoldtown.northfork.net James Garretson TOWN OF SOUTHOLD ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE TO; Brian Cummings, Planner Planning Dept. FROM� Elizabeth Thompson, Chairperson �� Architectural Review Committee ��'�� DATE: August 2, 2016 RE: Amended Site Plan for Lucas Ford 3245 Horton's Lane, Southold SCTM# 1000-59-3-32.1 The Architectural Review Committee is in receipt of two preliminary renderings of a project for 3245 Horton's Lane dated 7/20/16. Although this is not a complete application and it is not the purpose of this committee to design the project, at the applicanYs request, we send this letter of response that includes a few comments below. These are of a general nature and do not constitute a full review of the project. 1. There is an attempt to break down the massing and add details to the original proposal. There is a more appropriate scale to newer design. 2. The design would be more cohesive if one style were chosen and adhered to throughout...i.e. either shingle style, craftsmen style or Victorian etc. 3. The swag roof with flagpole is not compatible with the nearby pitched roof. A pyramidal roof with straight matching pitch would be more suitable. (Is there to be habitable space inside this tower or is it open to below?) 4. It is recommended that the two monumental front corner piers be deleted, for a more cohesive front elevation and to be in better scale with the local context. The two rear piers are more appropriate, as they provide transition to the flat roofed shop space behind. Attached are previous meeting minutes regarding this application that we hope may be of some use to the applicant for this proposed project. cc: H. Lanza, Planning Director Attachments Elizabeth Thompson,Chairperson �� Town Hall Annex 54375 Route 25 Reynolds duPont,Jr. G��"�r"��"��"��"�,, p0 Box 1179 p ,� ��,.,�� Rona d McGreevy �� "�� Southold,NY 11971 Nicholas Planamento e� � Mark Schwartz �y, � Telephone: (631)765- 1892 Stephen Geraci n, �"' � Fax(631)765-6641 James Grathwohl ��'�.� � "^��"� southoldtown.northfork.net Patricia Butler �"�"��^�� Tawn of Southold Architectural Review Committee Minutes 4:OOp.m., March 24,2016 Town Hall Annex Executive $oard Roam �x��l,<��•� �''��,��. 1��a;r��c�t��`l""f��s�n,Chairperson; Nicholas Planarnento;Ron McGreevy;and Elizabeth Cantrell,Secretary The minutes for the February 18,2016 meetings were approved. Intraductian: �I� ��a�ac��k��i�� ;i�r� � ��a��t:��c��a�si�%'r�-r��v�r��gs,�a��r��a•materials s� �1��a:�c�: t�9::�� a��.��aa`t�1�.t.�r� r��t��wt-�� il��I'��a'�:`t��g T:�e_��°��r�t5��r�the�'c�r��x��ttee. The C��x��-��il��ill ask questions and make suggestions as part of a genec��l ��.��r��,s:��r +��i.��t ��1��a��c�r�t, Final recommendations from the ARC will be presented to �� l�l�:r�i�a��T3c��n"c� ia�i,�� -��"��e�g 9��:��,and N��.r��art�f��a.� ��ni��i.��;file for E��r��i��1��-r. T'he�1��°u�.ig:��c:��r�v�r�� rai��f��thes�� •��c�r�,�r��x-��t�c��, tc��1��with all�n��s�l� �r�ar��othe��nc�i��,�� r�°��ide the applicant with a comprehensive written list of its requested revisions. �s��;1�� "�� .��N�a�r��: • LUCAS FORD SCTM#1000-59-3-32.1 Howard L,ucas, owner;Fred Seifert of Seifert Consiruction;and Brian Cummings,Town Planner ��t��l�� ui^��a.��r��c-i�� site plan fe��. �roposed 80'x115' (9,200sq.ft.) service area addition and �1�cr��t ic��=z i;� t�� cryx��.i.t��;80'x150' ('1�,�7�Osq.ft.) car dealership with 189 parking stalls on 4.1 acres in the General Business (B) Zoning District,Southold. �"�:°��:'�a�x-��a�xktee�� v��ti��r��1.��.�applic�kr�� .��°i:��u�; ��eyir.P�p��°:i� ��, �� r��c�eting. The (�"��a��eTM�evi��c�.�l�c��a��l�c:.��i�r�a and is�li��.��,�m��r.�r�� it ��a��1��:�� c��.�a�. The reason for the disapproval is due to the lack of response by the applicant with regards to the Planning Department's letter dated May 2,2015. Motion made and seconded. �� , �� N��._'d� ,f ��J ...� � _�� ..m��..��..__ �"" Elizabeth Cantrell,A.R.C.Secretary �� .�.�m,�....... .. � � _. _ 1 .. Elizabeth Thompson,Chairperson �,�;�r�-�,�� Town Hall Annex Reynolds duPont,Jr. ;�"�" �r�'�F��„� "�'�:. 54375 Route 25 Joseph Lee ��w�,"''��` �,�?�� PO Box 1179 Ronald McGreevy � �� ; Southold,NY 11971 Nicholas Planarnento � Mark Schwartz � � � ' Telephone: (631)765- 1892 � Fax(631)765-6641 Stephen Geraci �" 7ames Grathwohl ��"��" � "�'"�" southoldtown.northfork.net Patricia Butler � �`"�°�`�"�'�"� Town of Southold Architectural Review Committee Minutes 3:OOp.m.,Apri123,2015 Town Hall Annex Executive Board Room Members Present: Patric�ia B tlerm ....� � pson, Chairperson;Ron McGreevy;Nicholas Planamento;Stephen Geraci, Heather Lanza,Planning Director;Elizabeth Cantrell,Secretary The minutes for the March 19,2015 meeting were approved. Introduction° othe pplicants will give a presentation consisting af drawings,exterior materials samples and information required by the Planning Department to the Committee. The Coinmittee will ask questions and make suggestions as part of a general discussion with each applicant. Final recommendations from the ARC will be presented ta the Plaruvng Board in the ARC Meeting Minutes,and be made part of the Planning file for that application. The Plannulg Board will consider these recommendations,together with all comments frorn other agencies,and provide the applicant with a comprehensive written list of its requested revisions. Amended Site Plan. • LUCAS FORD SCTM#:1000-59-3-32.1 Howard Lucas, owner and his architect presented the amended site plan for a proposed$0'x115' (9,200sq.ft.) service area addition and alterations ta the existing 80'x150' (12,OOOsq.ft.) car dealership with 189 parking stalls an 4.1 acres in the General Business (B) Zoning District, Southold. The Committee reviewed the propased project and is Disapproving the application as submitted for the following reasons: • The building is out of context with the local area/environment. � The building is conceptually inappropriate • All four (4) fa�ades should relate to one another. • There is a lack of human scale. • The Coiruiuttee recommends the applicant review the Southold Stakeholders Study, the Planning Department's Architectural Review Conunittee Site Plan Application �-._._.—.� �� Supplernent which is contained within the site plan application, the Chase Bank site plan on Route 25 in Mattituck,and the Mullen Motors amended site plan on Route 25 in Southold. Motion rnade and seconded. All in favor. 1��r ��a�l,��ti�r��,: • OLDE COLONIAL PLACE,LLC SCTM# 1000-140-2-21 ��v�:��°�� mc��, ��v�a�a�z��c� �:�� 1''�.��:�it°t��l.��n,P.E.,Pr��t�:t l�x��;�i��7�a�r�a��-��tt�a� the ��l""}��c��ccaa� C�a�° t�� -r�°c��;c�c��c��.�.t�� i�ting 21h st��r� clu�r�1�.�:x��,a�� a�u��t�7•�ct a 60'x93' (5,580sq.ft.) multi-use 5-unit comrnercial building (no basement),and 21 parking stalls on 0.5 acres in the Hamlet Business Zoning District, Mattituck. The Committee reviewed the proposed project and is Tabling the application as submitted for the following reasons: • What the applicant submitted for the review is incomplete at this time. • Building plans and elevation do not match. • A more detailed elevation plan is requested to be submitted. • A roof plan depicting all rooftop equipment with dimensions is requested to be submitted. � A more detailed landscaping plan is requested to be submitted. � The rendering of the front of the buildings needs to depict the actual proposed structure. � More detail is requested on the front scape. • The Committee recommends awnings along the front af the buildings. • A softer treatment of the three sides of the building which should be integrated with the front fa�ade (e.g. side finishes matching front). • Articulation of the sides and rear facades. • The Cornrnittee recommends windows (fake or real),along the eastern fa�ade. • The Committee recommends the applicant review the Mattituck Stakeholders Study, and the Planning Department's Architectural Review Committee Site Plan Application Supplement which is contained within the site plan application. Motion made and seconded. All in favor. � � �+�� r� ..�_...�� ".".��- �� '��`��° �;�a��Elizabeth Cantrell,A.R.C.Secretary _.___. �........�� _.2 _..