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MAIN ROAD- STATE ROAD 25 SOUTHOLD, L.I., N.Y. 11cJ'71
TELEPHONE (516) 765-1809
ACTION OF THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
Appeal No. 3630
Application Dated April 29, ]987
TO: Mr. John Kramer
Mr. Wayne DePetris
54985 Main Road
P.O. Box 1406
Southold, NY 11971
[Appellant(s)]
At a Meeting of the Zoning Board of Appeals held on June ]0, ]987,
the above appeal was considered, and the action indicated below was taken
on your [ ] Request for Variance Due to Lack of Access to Property
New York Town Law, Section 280-a
[ ] Request for Special Exception under the Zoning Ordinance
Article , Section
Request for Variance to the Zoning Ordinance
Article VI , Section 100-60(C)[2](a)
[ ] Request for
Application of JOHN KRAMER AND WAYNE DePETRIS for a Variance to
the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section 100-60(C)[2] for permission
to replace existing ground sign, the lower edge of which shall be
less than four feet above the ground. Location of Property: 54985
Main Road, Southold, NY; County Tax Map Parcel ID No. 1000-52-1-5.
WHEREAS, a public hearing was held and concluded on May 21, 1987
in the Matter of the Application of JOHN KRAMER AND WAYNE DePETRIS
under Appeal No. 3630; and
WHEREAS, at said hearing no one appeared either in behalf of
or against the application; and
WHEREAS, the board has carefully considered all testimony and
documentation submitted concerning this application; and
WHEREAS, the board members have personally viewed and are
familiar with the premises in question, its present zoning, and
the surrounding areas; and
WHEREAS, the board made the following findings of fact:
1. By this application, appellants request a Variance from
the Provisions of Article VI, Section 100-60C(2)[a], to replace
an existing ground sign, the lower edge of which would be not less
than twelve inches (12") above the ground and the upper edge of
which will extend not more than five feet above the ground.
2. The premises in question is located along the north
side of the Main Road in the Hamlet of Southold, Town of Southold,
containing an area of 7500± sq. ft., 50 ft. lot width (frontage),
and lot depth of 150± feet, and is more particularly shown on the
Suffolk County Tax Maps as District lO00, Section 52, Block 1, Lot 5.
3. The subject premises is improved with a 25-ft. wide by
65 ft. deep one-story frame building set back 35 feet from the
front property line along the Main (State) Road.
(CONTINUED ON PAGE TWO)
DATED: June 10, 1987.
Form ZB4 (rev. 12/81)
CHAIRMAN, SOUTHOLD TOW/~ ZONING BOARD
OF APPEALS
Page 2 - Appeal No. 3630
Matter of KRAMER & DePETRIS
Decision Rendered June 10, 1987
4. The on-premises business advertising sign proposed by
this application will have an advertising area of 36" high by
96" wide, together with a 3" high skirt and 12" high base.
The 12" high base will not exceed 12 feet in width, and the
total solid construction area (top and bottom) shall not
exceed a total area of 81.25 sq. ft.
5. The setback of the existing sign and proposed sign
replacing same is shown to be not less than eight feet from
the front property line along the Main Road and the sidewalk
and a greater distance from the easterly side property line.
6. In considering this application, the Board finds
that the proposed sign is better aesthetically and the
advertising area is less than that normally permitted by
the Zoning Code.
7. In considering this appeal, the Board also finds and
determines:
(a) the relief requested is not substantial in relation
to the requirements;
(b) the relief requested is minimal;
(c) the circumstances of the property are unique;
(d) the variance if allowed will not
increased population density thus produced
mental facilities;
have an affect of
on available govern-
(e) there will be no change in the character of the
neighborhood or substantial detriment to adjoining properties;
(f) the interests of justice will be served.
Accordingly, on motion by Mr. Goehringer, seconded by
Mr. Sawicki, it was
RESOLVED, to APPROVE the relief requested under Appeal
No. 3630 in the Matter of JOHN KRAMER AND WAYNE DePETRIS for
the replacement of ground sign for on-premises business
advertising, SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS:
1. The sign be setback not less than eight feet from the
sidewalk or front property line (as applied), and in the same
location as the existing ground sign;
2. The existing ground sign will be removed;
3. The sign shall be only as applied and not greater in
size (as described in Paragraph #4, supra).
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Goehringer, Grigonis,
Douglass and Sawicki. (Member Doyen of Fishers Island was
absent.) This resolution was duly adopted.
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i RECEIVED AND FILED BY
THE SOUTHOLD TOWN CLERK
Town Cle~'k, Town of Sou~old
June 12, 1987
NOTICE OF HEARINGS
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN, pursuant to Section 267 of the Town
Law and the Code of the Town of Southold, the following public
hearings will be held by the SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD OF APPEALS at
a Regular Meeting at the Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold,
New York, on THURSDAY, MAY 21, 1987, at the following times:
7:35 p.m. File No. 3624 ERNEST TARMIN. Variance to the
Zoning Ordinance, Article XI, Section 100-119.2 for permission
to construct accessory structures with a setback of less than
100 feet from bluff/bank along the Long Island Sound. Location
of Property: Right-of-way off the north side of Main Road,
Orient, NY~ County Tax Mao Parcel ID No. 1000-14-2-1.1.
7:40 p.m. File No. 3625 PUDGE CORP. Special Exception
to the Zoning Ordinance, Article VIII, Section lO0-80(B) for
permiss~or to construct one-story "mini-storage" buildings in
this "C-Light" Industrial Zoning District. Location of
Property: East Side of Horton's Lane, Southold, NY; County
Tax Map Parcel ID No. 1000-63-01-10.
7:45 p.m. File No. 3626 - NORTH FORK EARLY LEARNING CENTER.
Speci'al Exception to the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section
100-30(B)[3] for permission to establish private (nurser~) school
[or day-care center], as.a nonprofit organization, at premises
referred to as the 'Veterans Community Center,' north side of
Pike Street, east side of Wickham Avenue, and south side of Hill
Street, Mattituck, NY; County Tax Map Parcel ID No. 1000-140-2-39.
7:50 p.m. File No. NORTH FORK EARLY LEARNING CENTER.
Variance to the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section 100-30(B)[3]
subsections (a) and (d), for permission to establish nonprofit
private (nursery) school ]or day-care center] within existing
building which is set back less than 50 feet from Pike Street,
and upon premises having less than five or more acres, referred
to as the "Veterans Community Center," north side of Pike Street,
east side of Wickham Avenue, and south side of Hill Street,
Mattituck, NY; County Tax MaD Parcel ID No. 1000-140-2-39.
7:55 p.m. File No. 3630 JOHN KRAM--R AND WAYNE DePETRIS. ~
Variance to the Zoning Ordinance, Article III Section IO0-60(C)[2-
for permission to replace existing ground si. gn~ the lower edge of j
Page 2 - Notice of Hearings
Southold Town Board of Appeals
Regular Meeting May 21, 1987
which shall be less than four feet above the ground. Location
of Property: 5~985 Main Road, Southold, NY; County Tax Map
Parcel ID No. 1000~62-1-5.
8:00 p.m. File No. 3629 .IRWIN AND_ SON~D~RA THOMPSOn.
Variance to the Zoning Ordinance, Article VI, Section 100-62(E)
and Article VII, Section 100-71, for approval of an insufficient
sideyard setback to an existing structure and proposed new
structure resulting from an alteration in the location of ldt
line of abutting parcel to the east. Zone District: "B-1 General
Business." Location of Property: Corner of north side of Main
Roiad and east side of Boisseau Avenue, Southold, NY (Thompson's
Emporium); County Tax Map Parcel ID No. 1000-63-03-08.
8:05 p.m. File No. 3586 - ROBERT AND HELEN DIER. Special
Exception to the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section 100-
30(B)[16] for permission to establish "Bed and Breakfast Use,"
an owner-occupied building, other th~n a hotel, where lodgie!g
and breakfast is provided for not more than six casual, tramsient
roomers, and renting of not more than three rooms, in conjunction
with present single-family use and accessory apartment use
established under Appl. No. 3597 March 5, 1987. Location of
Property: 355 Terry Lane, Southold, NY~ County Tax Map Parcel
No. 1000-65-7-20.
8:15 p.m. File No. 3439 - ARNOLD AND KAREN BLAIR. Variances
to the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section lO0-31, Bulk
Schedule, for approval of insufficient area and width of two
pwoposed parcels in this pending division of land located at
Cedar Lane (and Pine Place), East Marion, NY; "Map of Section 2,
Gardiners Bay Estates" Map No. 275, Lots 156, 157, 158, 159,
160, ~67 thru 17~2, inclusive, 151, 153; County Tax Map Parcel
No. 1000-037-7-10.2.
8:20 p.m. ?ilo No. 3543 - PETER AND BARBARA HERZ. Variances
to the Zoning Ordinance, Article XI, Section 100-119.2 for ~ermis-
sion to locate new single-family dwelling with insufficient
setbacks from existing bulkhead and from highwater areas along
Midway Inlet and Hog Neck Bay, premises referred to as 70 Cedar
Point Drive, Southold, NY; Cedar Beach Park Map, part of Lo~s
152 and llO; County Tax Map Parcel No. 1000-~0-02-13.1.
~q35 p.m. File No.~12 - BENJAMIN HERZWEIG and WILL~AM
MOORE. ~riance to t~e~Zoning Ordinance, Article XI, Section
100-119.2 f~x pe~ssion to locate new single-family dwelling
with an i nsu~cie~nt setback from nearest wetland grasses/a~eas.
Locati~~__P~t~ E~t Side (~375) Meadow Lane, Mattit~ck,
N~~~t~~~~~ ~4453, Lot ~2; County Tax Map
Page 3 Notice of Hearings
Southold Town Board of Appeals
Regular Meeting - May 21, 1987
The Board of Appeals will hear a~ said time and place all
oersons or representa, tives desiring to be heard in each of the
above matters. Each hearing will not start before the time
allotted. Written comments may be submitted pr~or to the con-
clusion of the subject hearing.. For more information, please
call 765-1809.
Dated: May ll, 1987.
BY ORDER OF THE SOUTHOLD TOWN
BOARD OF APPEALS
GERARD P. GOEHRINGER, CHAIRMAN
Linda Kowalski, Board Secretary
Copies to the following on or about §/tl/87:
Suffolk Times (personal delivery)
L.I. Traveler-Watchman (personal delivery)
Town C~erk Bulletin Board
Z.B.A. Office Bulletin Board
Mr. Ernest Tarmin, Box 2043, Main Road, Orient, NY 11957
Mr. James L. Gray, Sr., President, Pudge Corp., 1040 Horton La, Sld, NY ll~
Mr. and Mrs. Glen Moller, North FOrK Early Learning Center,
Box 1053, Mattituck, NY 11952
Mr. John J. ~ramer
Mr. Wayne De~etris P.O. Box 1406, Southold, NY 11971
Philip d. Car~-i-h-~-l'6--~--~ q.-(At--for Mrs Donald Dean)
Mrs. Donald D~an. q York~ Rnndo Mnl~ntain i nk~s~70-4?
Mr. Garrett A. Strang, R.A. (Agent for Thompson's Emporium), Box 1412,
Main Road, Southold, NY 11971
Mr. and Mrs. Robert 3ier, 355 Terry Lane, Southold, NY 11971
John M. Wagner, Esq., Box 279, t08 E. Main St., Riverhead, NY ll901
J. Kevin McLaughlin, Esq., 828 Front St., Box 803, Greeneort, NY 11944
Rudolph H. Bruer, Esq., Main Road, Southold, NY 11971 (Attorney for Blair)
Patricia C. Moore, Esq. (Rudolph H. Bruer, Esq.), Attorney for
Mr. and Mrs. Peter Herz, Main Road, Southold, NY 11971
J. Kevin McLau§hlin, Esq. (Attorney For Mr. Blair)
Box 803, 828 Front Street, Greenport, NY 11944
Richard J. Cron, Esq., Main Road, Cutchogue, NY 11935
William D. Moore, Esq., Clause Commons, Suite 3~ Box 23,
(Herzweig & Moore Application)
Mattituck 11952
Individual ZBA files
ZBA Members with copies of files
Building Department (Vic Lessard)
FORM NO. 3
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
BUILDING DEPARTMENT
TOWN CLERK'S OFFICE
SOUTIIOLD. N.Y.
NOTICE OF DISAPPROVAL
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Building Inspector
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD, NEW YOR~
~IIIIIA~M DECISION OF BUILDING INSPECTOR
TO THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS, TOWN OF SOUTHOLD, N. Y.
1, (We) ~.Q.~I ~ramer & Wac. ne DePet~ Main Stre.e.t .S. outhoid ~ ~'
Name of Appellant Street ond Number
.N.e,~...~'.,~. ........ HEREBY APPEAL TO
Municipality State
THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FROM THE DECISION OF THE BUILDING INSPECTOR ON
APPLICATION FOR PERMIT NC ..................................... DATED .....~,~..~..~..Z.,...9..,..,.]:..9.,8..7 ..................
WHEREBY THE BUILDING INSPECTOR DENIED TO
Name of Applicant for permit
of
Main Street Southold NY 11971
Street and Number Municipality State
( ) PERMIT TO USE
( ) PERMIT FOR OCCUPANCY
(X)" Sign Permit
1:. LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY ~...~...~...~ain...Roacl..cdD, UtAQ~...~.O~.~....~..-?..].. ..................
Street /Hamlet / Use District on Zoning Map
District 1000 Secti0n062B10ck 01L0t 05 ~ - '
.............................................................................. burrent Owner ,7oh~ Kramer& Wayne DePetris
MOP No. Lot No. Prior Owner
2. PROVISION (S) OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE APPEALED (Indicate the Article Section, Sub-
section and Paragraph of the Zoning Ordinance by number. Do not quote the Ordinance.)
Article ZZT Section 100-60c (2) (Sign height)
3, TYPE OF'APPEAL Appeal is mode herewith for (please check appropriate box)
(~ x) A VARIANCE to the Zoning Ordinance or Zoning Map
( ) A VARIANCE due to lack of access (State of New York Town Law Chop. 62 Cons, Lows
Art. ]6 Sec. 280A Subsection 3
( )
4. PREVIOUS APPEAL A previous appeal ~ (has not) been made with respect to this decision
of the Building Inspector or with respect to this property.
Such appeal was ( ) request for a special permit
( ) request for a va dance
and was made in Appeal No ................................. Dated .....................................................................
)
)
REASON FOR APPEAL
A Variance to Section 280A Subsection 3
A Variance to the Zoning Ordinance
,s r~sted forthe reason that The sign height
is less attractive than what we propose.
building is low, what we propose is much more pleasing to the eye,
more in keeping with the professional image we wish to project, and
in keeping with the aesthetic nature of the landscape.
permitted by the zoning code
Our property is small, our
more
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REASON FOR APPF-AL Continued '~ :~
I. STRICT APPLICATION OF THE[ ORDINANCE would produce practical difficulties or unneces-
sar~ HARDSHIP because
The sign raised 4' off the ground (as it is now) looks too commercial
creates a bill board competition on main street that is similar to
Jericho Turnpike. We have a sign in compliance with the code now,
we seek to do something that will look prettier, and make the village
look nicer too.
2. The hardshipcreatedis UNIQUE and isnotshared by all properties alike in the immedia~
vicinity ofthispropeny andinthis use district ;ecause
Not.all property.owners care about ~moverall aesthetic impression
Created by their sign when it is viewed in the context of all
Main Street signs, such as a visitor passing through the village would.
We are upgrading our sign and have the opportunity to do something
more tasteful than what the code allows.
3. The Variance would observe the spirit of the Ordinance and WOULD NOT CHANGE THE
CHARACTER OF THE DISTRICT because
There is no reason for us to have a sign 4' off the ground as long
as a car leaving our parking lot can see over it and it is far enough
away from the sidewalk to allow clear vlsability in all directions. It
does.
STATE OF NEW YORK )
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COUNTY OF )
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Signature
Wayne DePetris
Sworn to this ~,'~.~..~=..~'~/ day of..;~.~7..:.,,.
~NOTARY PUBLIC, State of New NO, ~744014