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HomeMy WebLinkAboutZBA-09/03/1959 APPEAL BOARD MEMBERS Robert '~/. Gillispi¢, Jr., Chelrm~n Robert Bergen Herbert Rosenber9 Charles Gregonis~ .Jr. Scrse Doyen, Jr. Southold Town Board of Appeals SOUTHOLD, L. I., N. Y. Telephone SO 5-~6~0 Southold Town Board of Appeals September 3, 19%9 A regular meeting of the Southold Town Board of Appeals was held Thursday, September 3, 1959~ 7:30 P.M.~ at the Town Clerk's Office, Main Road~ Southold, New York. There were present: Messrs. Robert W. Gillispie, Jr., Chairmau, Robert Bergen~ Herbert Rosenberg, and Charles Grigonis, Jr. Absent: Mr. Serge Doyen, Jr. Also present: Mr. Howard M. Terry~ Building Inspector. The Chairman opened the meeting by reading the letter which was forwarded to Mr. Helmut Hass on date of August 31, 19~9 advising that his ~ppeals No._ 208, 209,.210, 211 and 212 would be continued to this date (September ~) and askirg that a representative of the Southold Town Beach Motel be present to discuss locations of the proposed signs with the Board. The Chairman then read the following application! legal notice o2 hearing and affidavit attesting to its publication in the official newspaper: 7:40 P.M. (E.D.S.T.)~ upon appli- cation of Helmut Hass, for SoutholdTown Beach Motel, North Southold Town Board of Appeals -2- September 3, 19~9 Road~ Southold~ New York~for a special exception in accord- ance with the Zoning Ordinance, Article IV~ Section $08~ for permission to erect and maintain a directional advertising sign on the property of Richard E. Schiefer~ east side Bowery Lane and south side North Road~ Southold~ New York. Fee paid $15.00. CHAIRMAN: Mr. Hass, there is a great problem where signs are concerned because of the great many people against signs. It is necessary to have the exact location where you wish to place signs and then it would be up to the Board to determine what is reasonable and what ~s unreasonable. There should not be a sign on a persohs front lawn, that is not a good idea. Also it is felt signs should be in locations where they will do the most good. We have had as many as four and five hundred people against a single sign. We will now take this application to place a sign on the Schiefer property. Mr. Hass introduced Mr. Ernest Eisen, Southold, New York. Mr. Eisen painted the signs in question for Mr. Hass. CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak for this application? .M~.. HELMUT HASS, Southold Town Beach Motel: We need the directional sign to direct people to the motel. Most people ask~how do we get there~ We are having circulars printed which will be sent to the people telling them to turn right at Mattituck and following the signs down to the motel. We particularly need a sign at Mattituck directing them to the North Road because once on the North Road they are O.k. CHAIRMAN: How many signs do you have on Route 2~? MR. HASS: None. CHAIRMAN: None west of the motel? MR. HASS: None. CHAIR}LAN: East of themotel? MR. HASS: There are none east either. CHAI~,~: Is there anyone else present ~ho wishes to speak 2or this application? Is there anyone present who wishes to speak against this application? Are there any questions members of the Board would like to ask? MR. BERGEN: How long will the signs be up? Southold Town Board of Appeals -3- September 3, 19~9 ~q. HASS: ! willput them ~ ~n the ground in the spring and take them out at Christmas. They will be 3 by $ and stuck in the ground like the State signs. (Mr. Hass explained the size and type of ~gns to be erected.) MR. ROSENBERG: Why do people need a sign on that corner~ Schiefer property~ to tell them to stay on the road, when the sign 27A i~ there¥ MR. EISEN: A lot of traffic goes through there. Wha~they read the sign they know that they are near the motel. MR. HAGS: That sign at Schiefers we sneaked up for two weeks without a permit and I can show you inthe books that it increased business. MR. R0$EI~BE~G: You were advertising the motel at that point. MR. HASS: They saw my sign though. MR. ROSENBERG: There is a difference between an advertising sign and a directional sign. CHAIR~iAN: Do you expect to put another sign between this location and themotel? ~q. EISEN$ I hate a lot of signs. Cluttering the road with signs looks terrible. This should have been taken aare of years ago. However, two or three signs is all that is needed. Mr. Hass is in the process of building up his business and it needs to be built up. CHAIRMAN: How many circulars do you plan to send out? MR. HASS: 6000 to 7000 circulars to prospective customers. CHAIF~AN: How many people can you accomodate? MR. HAS$: I have 36 units. (Mr. Rosenberg explained that the number of directional signs to be permitted should be placed in strategic places.) ReEolution was offered by Mr. Bergen, seconded by Mr. Grigonis and carried, WHEREA~ application of Helmut Hass, for Southold Town Beach Motel, having been considered at Public Hearing No. 208 on August 27, 19~9 and continued to September 3, 19~9, and the Board finding that the public convenience and ~outhold To~n Board of Appeals ~+- September 3, 19~9 welfare and justice will be served and the legally established or permitted use of neighborhood property will not be substantially or permanently injured and the spirit of the Ordinance would be observed, therefore be it RESOLVED that the application be granted providing sign is located at least 30 ft. from the Schiefer property line at the intersection of Bowery Lane and North Road and three feet from other property lines. Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen, Mr. Rosenberg, and Mr. Grigonis. The Chairman then read Appeal No. 209 which is as follows: 7:~0 P~M. (E.D.S.T.), upon application of Helmut Hass, for Southold Town Beach Motel, North Road, Southold, New York, for a special exception in accordance wi~h the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section 300, Subsection ll, for permission to erect and maintain a directional advertising sign on the property of Ernest C. Tuthill. south side Middle Road~ Mattituck, New York. Fee paid $15.00. cHAIp~MAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to spe~ for this application? MR. EA~S: I wish to say the same as before, to direct people going to the motel. CHAIRMAN: How many directional signs do you think you need on the North Road? MR. HASS: We have to get known and have to have signs for people to get acquainted with the ~ocation of the motel. FrOm Mattituck to the motel I would ]_ike to get five or six signs. They will only be up for the season, fram ~out April to December. CHAIRMAN: In the matter of the sign on the property of Ernest Tuthill we will continue the hearing for four weeks, which will be October 1st. '~ Resolution was offered by ¥2. Bergen, seconded by Mr. Rosenberg and carried~ continuing this hearing until October l, 19~9. Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Gillispie, ~. Bergen, ~ Mr. Rosenberg~ and Mr. Grigonis. Southold Town Board of Appeals -~- September ~ 19~9 The Chairman then read Appeal No. 210~hichis as follows: 8:00 P.M. (E.D.S.T.)~ upon application of Helmut Hass, for Southold Town Beach ~tel~ ~o_th Road, ~outhold, New York, for a special exception in accor~e with the Zoning Ordinance~ Article III~ Section ~O0~ Sub, eot±on ll, for permission to erect and maintain a directio~~ ~dvertising sign on the prop- erty of Mary Pylko, soubh sid~ 3~d Avenue~ Mattituck~ New York. Fee paid $15.00. CHAIR~N: Is there anyonc present who wishes to speak for this application? MR. HASS: ~ really need that one at the Pylko property. I want to get them on to 27A. MR. R~ ENBERG: Don't you think that is a poor place. Don't you thi~k the signsho~uld be before the Pappish building~ before you co~e to the turn? The sign could read "straight ahead~ bear left." (The above suggestion was discussed at length and Mr. Hass decided he would place the sign closer to the Pappish building, at the most westerly end of the Pylk8 property.) Resolution was offered by Mr. Rosenberg~ seconded by ~. Bergen and carried~ WHE~ application of Helmut Hass~ for Southold Town Beach Motel~ having been considered at public Hearing No. 210 on August 27, 19~9, and continued to September ~ 1959~ and the Board finding that the public convenience and welfare and justice will be served and the legally established or permitted use of neighborhood property will not be substantially or permanently injured and the spirit of the Ordinance would be observed~ therefore be it RESOLVED~ that permission is granted for location of the sign on the Pylko property~ restricting location to an area within 100 ft. of the easterly line of land of Papish, and not closer than three feet to any property line. Vote of the Beard: Ayes:- Mr. Gillispie~ Mr. Bergen~ Mr. Rosenberg~ and ~. Grigonts. The Chairman read Appeal No. 211 which is as follows: 8:10 P.M. (E.D.S.T.), u~on application of Helmut Hass~ for Southold Tgwn Beach Motel, North Road~ 8outhold~ New York, for a speczal e~ception in accordance with the ~oning 0rdin- ance~ Article IV~ ~ection ~O8~ for permission to erect and Southold Town Board of Appeals -6- S~ptember 3, 19~9 maintain a directional advertising sign on the property of the Shell Service Station, Ted Wells, Proprietor, north side Hamilton Avenue amd west side Wickham Avenue~ Mattituck, New Yor~. Fee paid $15.00. CHAIRMAN: The owner of the propertyhas advised that he does not wish a sign erected there. MR. HASS: I will try to get another location near there. Resolution was offered by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Rosenberg and carried, WHEREAS application of Helmut Hass, for Southold Town Beach Mote~ having been considered at Public Hearing No. 211 on August 2~, 1959, and continued to September 3, 19~9, and the Board findi~g that the public convenience and welfare and justice will not be served and the legally estab- lished or permitted use of neighborhood property will be sub- stantially or permanently injured and the spirit of the Ordinance will not be observed, therefore be it RESOLVED, that permission is denied. Vote of the Board: AyesJ- Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen, Mr. Rosenberg, and ¥~. Grigonis. The Chairman then read Appeal No. 212 which is as follows: 8:20 P.M. (E.D.S.T.)~ upon application of Helmut Haws, for $outhold Town Beach Motel, North Road~ Southold~ New York, for a special exception in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance~ Article III~ Section 300~ Subsection ll~.for permission to erect and maintain ~ ~*~ advertisin~ s~zn on the proPerty of Josep~ Sawicki~ o~~N~rth Road, S~uth~ld, New York. Fee paid $1~.00. CHAIRMAN: The oWner of the property has reconsidered and does not wish a sign erected on his front law~. Resolution offered by Mr. R,~enberg, seconded by Mr. Bergen and carried, WHEREAS ~pplication ~f ~el~ut Has~.fo~ So~tho~d Town Beach Motel, havzug b~en cg~s±d~r~ ~t ~1~ ~e~ ~o. ~10 n~ A, 1~,1~t 29- lg59. ana con~lnueG ~o oep~emu~ o,. ~L t and the Board finding that the public ¢onvenier~ and we and Justice will not be served, amd the legally established or permitted use of neighborhood property will be substantially or permanently injured and the spirit of the Ordinar~ will not be observed, therefore be it RESOLVED that the application be denied because it is Southold Town Board of Appeals -7- September 3, 1959 not believed to be in the best interests of the Town of Southold to locate a directional advertising sign on residential property such as that of Mr. Joseph Sawicki. Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Gillispie, ¥~. Bergen, Mr. Rosenberg~and Mr. Grigonis. The Board of Appeals discussed and approved the following recommended procedure upon application for special exceptions for signs: The following resolution was offered by Mr. Bergen, seconded by Mr. Grigonis and carried: RECOMMENDED PROCEDURE: Due to increase in motel and restaurant enterpris'es the following requirements should be met by applicants seeking directional signs: An accttrate sketch of property showing highway and adjoining properties to nearest intersection with exact location of proposed sign, with sketch, size, wording. Written permission by owner of property for erection of directional sign as well as completed application for sign permit together with fees. This "guidance" supersedes former suggested procedure as notedin minutes of May 22, 19~8. Directional signs for places of amusement will no longer be permitted. Dated: September 3, 19~9. Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen, Mr. Rosenberg, and Mr. Grigonis. On motion of Mr. Bergen, seconded by Mr. Rosenberg, and carried, it was RESOLV~D that time and place be set for hearing upon application of Louis Zarzecki, Orchard Street, Orient, New' York, for a variance in accordance with the Zoning Or~inance~ Article III, Section 303, and Article X, Section lOOOa~ for permission to reduce frontage and use as a single lot~ proper located on the west side Oyster Ponds Lane, Orient, New York Southold Town Board of Appeals '8- September 3, 19~9 and bounded north by N. A. Luce~ east by Oyster Ponds Lane, south by Fernando Jiminez, and west by Annie Wysocki. Time and place being set for 7:30 P.M.~ (E.D.S.T.)~ Thursday~ September 17, 1959, Town Clerk's 0ffice~ Main Road, Southold, New York. Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen, Mr. Rosenberg, and ~. Grigonis. By resolution offered by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Bergen and carried, 7:~ P.M, (E.D.S:T.)~ was set on Thursday, September 17~ 19~9, Town Clerk's Office, Main Road! Southold, New York~ for time and place for hearing upon applzcation of Victor Lessard~ Wickh~m Avenue~ a/c Mary O. MacNish, Westphalia Road, Mattituc~, New York, for a variance in accordance wit~ the Zoning Ordinance~ Article III, Section 307, for permisszon to reduce side yard on property located at east side Westphalia Road~ Mattituck~ New Zork~ ~d.bounded north bY Fred Olmstead~ east by Mattituck Creek~ south by William Satterly, and west by Westphalia Road. . Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen, Mr. Rosenberg, and ~. Grigonis. On motion of Mr. Rosenberg~ seconded by Mr. Grigonis and carried, Thursday~ September 17, 19~9~ 8:00 P.M., (E.D.S.T.), at the Town Clerk's Office~ Main Road~ $outhold~ New York, wa~ set for hearing upon application of Helmut Hass~ Main Road~ Greenport~ New York, for a variance in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance, Article IV~ Section ~0~ for permission to reduce front yard setback from established setback line. Lo- cation of property, south side North Road, Southold~ New York, bounded north by North Road, east by other lands of the ap. pli- cant, south by other lands of the applicant, and west by Henry Wenzelo Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen, Mr. Rosenberg, and Mr. Grigonis. It was tk~rt~er RF~0LVED that legal notice of hearing be published in the official newspaper on date of September ll, 1959. Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Gillispie~ Mr. Bergen, Mr. Rosenberg, and Mr. Grigonis. The application of Lewis N. Griffin~ Bay Avenue, Mattituck~ N~w York was received. Mr. Griffin's application applied for a special exception under Article IB, Section ~00, Subsection 9 which reads as follows: "Public garages or automobile service Southold Town Board of Appeals -9- September 3, 1959 stations when approved as a special exception by the Board of Appeals as hereinafter provided." Mr. Griffin wishes to have a public garage and automobile service state, on, therefore it was RESOLVED by lv~. Rosenberg, seconded by Mr. Bergen and carried, that application be ordered published in the official newspaper excluding "two gasoline pumps" on line two, and ,,sale of fuel wo~ld be incidental to this operation" paragraph three, line two~ as not complying with the Ordinance. Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen, Mr. Rosenberg, and ~. Bergen. 7:30 P.M. (E.D.S.T.), upon application of Lewis N. Griffin, Bay Avenue, Mattituck~ New York, for a special exception in accordance with the Zonin~ Ordinance, Article IV, Section $00, Subsection 9, for permission to use and maintain premises as a public garage. Location of property, Mattituck, New York, bo~uded north by SoundAvenue and Railroad, east by Pacific Street, south by now or formerly of Clara Benjamin. and west now or former y of S. B.~ Hamilton, Hear~to b~ held. ~sday, September 2~, 19~9, To~n Clerk's ~ce, ~outhold. Vote of the Board: Ayes:- ~,.~. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen, Mr. Rosenberg, and Mr. Grigonis. It was further RESOLVF~ that legal notice of hearing be published in the official newspaper on date of September 18, 19~9. Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen~ Mr. Rosenberg, and Mr. Grigonis. The Board of~ppeals briefly discussed t~ proposed Sand Pit Ordinance for the ToWn of $outhold. Meeting adjourned at lO:~ P.M. Respectfully submitted,