HomeMy WebLinkAboutCLEAVES POINT PROPERTY O... (2)Te~phone
516-765-1938
11971
August 7, 1981
Mr. C. Hamilton
Regulatory Affairs Unit
Bldg. 40, SUN~/, Room 219
Stony Brookr N. Y.
Dear Mr. Hamilton:
This is to advise you that the Southold Town Board of Trustees is in
favor of the bulkheading of approximately 130' of the south shore of
Gull Pond as applied for by J. H. Geideman and members of the Cleaves
Point Property Owners Association.
If you see any problems concerning this application, please send a
representative out to meet with the Trustees.
~ours truly,
Anna T. Hataier, President
Southold Town Trustees
BOAR[ ISTEES
~q~lephone
5t6-765-1938
11971
March 6, 1981
Mr. Chuck Hamilton
NYS DEC
Building 40, Room 219 SUNY
.Stony Brook, New York 11794
Dear Mr. Hamilton:
The Board of Town Trustees request that the next time you
are in the area they would luke to meet with you at the Cleaves
Point site along with Mr. Geideman.
The trustees have strong feelings about this area and
would like to provide some input.
Yours truly,
ATH/mt
Copy to Cleaves Point Assn.
ANNA T. HATAIER, PRESIDENT
SOUTHOLD TOWN TRUSTEES
BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES
Town Of Southold
Southold, New York 11971
Main Road
Rev.
APPLICATION FOR A BULKHEAD, DIKE, OR JETTY
1. Does this project involve the use of WETLANDS as defined in the Southold Town Wetlands
Ordinance? YES or NO. If it does, vou must file ' ' ·
· tnrough the Town Clerk s Off~ce.
2. ls the proposed work entirely within the boundaries of your own property as substantiated
by your Deed or Survey? YES or NO. If it is, a Permit is NOT required from this BOard,
but the Town Building Inspector should be contacted for full details.
3. Applicant's name ar~l address: .~..:...~.:...~...~./.~..,f~..~.~......~[...~...~.......~....~:..~...~"~ CfY~'
............................ ZZZZZZZZ
4. Contractor's nameandaddress: ..~....~... ~~ .............................
6. After .issuance of Permit, I expect to: (mark with an X)
(a) Commence work AT ONCE ............; ASAP . ~.....; UNKNOWN TIME .............
(b) Complete work in 1 DAY ............ ; 1 MO ............. , 1 YR ............. ; FUTURE .............
7. Secure the correct Area Mop from the Secretary of this Board, and by using an X WITHIN
A CIRCLE as a mark, indicate as closely as 0ossible the location of this project. Or~ the
reverse side, provide a SCALE DRAWING which will show Ordinary High Water Mark as well
as the size and shape .of the structure or work to be done. Also include all dimensions for
portions which extend at,hare from the O. H. W. M.
]0.
Provide the following documents:
(al A Licensed Engineer's Survey of the property involved. ~ ~ ~,~~'
(b) A copy of the Contractor's Plan and Specifications.
Does this project extend into Town Wafers beyond on imaginary line or boundary formed
by existing works of a similar nature along this area's shoreline? YES or NO.,_..; If it does, state
the approximate distance beyond, ............ ft.
Will this construction requ re ihe Filling of any land offshore of the Ordinary High Water
Mark or the Dredging of any material from Town Lands under water? YES or NO. If it does,
Form A/4 (Application for Dredging/Filling) must be completed and attached as---~art of this
application.
ii.
Accepted by:
In requesting approval of this application, I submit that: the information presented herein
is true and correct to the best of my knowledge end belief; I am the person accountable for
the performance of the work in accordance with l'he plans and specifications attachea; I hove
read or am familiar with the provisions of any Southold Town Ordinance pertinent to the work
involved; and further, I intend to adhere to and abide by the Terms and Conditions of the
Permit, when and if issued to me.
Doted:
CLEAVES POINT
PROPE~RTY OWN F:R S
ASSOCIATION, lNG. Boz 173
EAST MARION, L. I., NE'C/YORK 11939
November 5, 1982
l~r. Paul Stoutanb-o_rgh - Pres.
Board of Southold Town Trustees
Tov~Hall- ~ain Street
So~thold, New York 11971
Re: Gull Pond ~ooring Applications
Dear~,~r. Stoutenb~gh:
I ~m v~iting to you, as ~resident of the Cleaves
Point ~roper~y Owners ~ssociation~ Inc, to request that these
applications be tabled, in order to afford us ~_ opportu~aity
to meet with you ~ad your attorney ~o discuss the entire matter
of mooring permits in Gull Pond.
7ith the onset of winter there can be no urgency to
the pendmhg applications. Tabling them could afford em opport-
snity for a full ~d frs~32~ iiscussion of the issue with ~ view
to their ~icable resolution.
2allure to t~ole the applications ~ll exacerbate
the dispute between the residents of Gull Pond ~_d th e Board
of Trustees, lead to additional litigation s~ad needless costs
and expense to the Tovm Trustees~ the Tbv~na, its citizens s~ud
ta~papers.
Very t~s~y yo~rs
Cleaves Poin~ aroperoy .~sSocla~lo~
New York State Department of Environmental Conservation
office of Heari~g-s
Bldg. 40, S[~q~
Stony Brook, NY 11794
(516) 751-7900, Extension 258
Robert F, Flacke
Commissioner
October 20, 1981
John H. Geide~an, P.E.
P.O. Box 416
East Marion, NY 11939
RE: Clev~es Point Property Owners Association, TW 15278-0157 P~TQ
Dear Mr. Geideman: ~
Departr~nt staff has referred this matter to this offiOe to schedule a
decision conference which will be held at Bldg. 40, SUkrf, Stony Brook,
New York at 10 a.m. on November 2, 1981.
You are advised that staff is maintaining objections to your proposal
to bulkhead, dredge and fill in a mapped tidal wetlands area. If
resolution of the issues cannot be achieved at the conference I will
recor~T~-~ a prontot decision on this matter to the Department's Central
Office in Albany. W/~ile staff will be bound by the decision the
Applicant may, if the decision is unsatisfactory to him, request a public
hearing within t0 days of the decision and a hearing will con~ence with-
in 45 days of the request.
Very truly yours,
A. Marshall Zr~ing
~s~a~ ~w J~ge
cc:
Dr. Stotzky
L.M. Tuthill, P.E.
A.T. Hs~m{er, President, Town Trustees
J.N. Vandernoth, Cleves Point Property Owners Association, Inc.
K. Chytalo
D. Fallon
C. Hamilton
E.L. Vopelak
AMI:cz
CLEAVES POINT
PROPERTY' OWNERS
A,,~)~[jATI O N, INC.
EAST ~/~A~I(:~N, L. I.. NEW YORK
11939
Tn: Board cf Trustees ef the T:ev~ of So-~thold
~r~m: Cleaves Point ~repertyOwners _~ssn. !nc.
~o Geidem~u as .~nginser
g. Vaudernoth - Presiden~
Bear Sirs:
B_closed is a copy of a portion of filed map ~27~~2 dated
Sept. 7, 195~ from the S~folk Co. Registers Office. This map em-
braces that part of the development showing water front p~rcels on
~l Pond. it was at this site that the Board of Ti~ustees met o~
the me.ninE of ~eb~.~~ 16, 1981 to review a decision m~e by the
D.E.C. D~pt. of ~viro~ent~ Conservmtion. ~e l~tter hzs ~ed
that ~dition~ bul~heads ~o~ this ~e~ be moved i~d by a
diet.ce of 8'(see s~pplement~ sketch)
Sinc~ this decision reduces the l~d of each o~er by more
th~h~f ~d since there is no ~pp~ent re.son for this move,
(the o~ers) appe~ to the ~d ~f T~stees to ~ct as le~d ~ency
e~.d advise the D.E.C. that this move is ~practic~ ~d in fact,
~e const~otion of the ~issing B~e~d e~e~ is ~
a~empt by the o~ers of the indi~du~ lots to stop erosion ~d
prese~e t~a inte~ity of the ~ea.
If additional i~o~ation is reo2mir~ or meetings te be
held we would bo~e_ p to be incl~ed with whatever data you m~y feel is
necessary. ~e, as members e~ the Property.-ers ~sn. appreciate
yo~ cooperation ~ud ask that tb~s matter be ~-~ high on y~ agend~
so that the dest~ction caused by the severe weather be rectified as
soon as possible.
~e~~ t~.ly~ yo~ ~r
/~Jose~h N. ~de~ot~ Pre~.
Cl'6aves Point Proper~y ~w-ners
Present at meeting all T~stees of Totem off Southold
Mrs. f~ma Hataier ~. ~E~xjawski
~r. Pa~ Stoutenberg Mr. Halsey Staples
~r. Henu%~ Smith
Ino ~
516-477-2421
JOHN G. GEIDEMAN
Consulting Engineer
E~vilYndustrial-Marine
P.O. Box 416
East Marion, New York 11939
June 26, 1981
Board of Trastees
Tow~ of $outhold
Dear Mrs. Hataier:
The attached application for a Wetlands
Permit is a new attempt to build a bulkhead along the
small lots that we were involved with in 1980 at Gull Pond.
The D.E.C. suggested that this would be
the best way for them to review the situation and allow
them to make a change in their findings.
Hppefolly~ this will allow us to get
atarted in s_u attempt to prevent farther erosion and a
lot more winter damage.
Please let us _know your opinion at this
latest attempt to try arid oreserve this area.
Very t~a!y yo~s
John G. Geideman
RECEIVED
NANOP-E
APPLICATION NO.
81-190
PUBLIC NOTICE NO.
10278
22 April 1981
10682-81-190-L2
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:
This District has received an application for a Department of the Army
permit'-p~r~suant to
Section 10 of the River and Rarbor Act of 1899 (30 Stat.
U.S.C. 403;
1151; 33
Section 404 of the Federal Water Pollution Control Act Amendments
of 1972 (PL 92-500, 86 Stat. 816, 33 U.S.C. 1344);
Section 103 of the Marine~Protection, Research and Sanctuaries Act
of 1972, as amended (PL 92-532, 86 Stat. 1052, 33 U.S.C. 1413).
APPLICANT:
To%Tt of Southold
Main Road
Southold, NY 11971
WORK: Jetty and maintenance dredging
WATERWAY: Channel to Gull Pond, Gardiners Bay
LOCATION: Greenport, Suffolk County, New York
A detailed description a~d plans of the proposed work are inclosed to
assist in your review of the proposal.
The decision whether to issue a permit will be based on an evaluation
of the probable impact of Jthe proposed activity on the public interest.
That decision will reflect the national concern for both protection and
utilization of important resources. The beeefit which reasonably may be
expected to accrue from the proposed work must be balanced against its
reasonably foreseeable detriments. All factors which may be relevant to
the proposed work will be considered; among those are conservation, eco-
nomics, aesthetics, general environmental concerns~ historic values,
fish and wildlife values, flood damage prevention, land use, navigation,
recreation, water supply, water quality, energy needs~ safety, food pro-
duction and, in genera], the needs and welfare of the people,
NANY FL-129
Aug 78
NANOP-E
PUBLIC NOTICE NO. 10682-81-190-L2
A preliminary review of the application indicates that an Environmental
Impact Statement will not be prepared. A review of the latest publish-
ed version of the National Register of Historic Places and of the pre-
sence or absence of registered properties or properties listed in the
latest published version of the Register as being eligible for inclu-
sion, therein, has been made. Presently unknown archeological, scien-
tific, prehistorical or historical data may be lost or destroyed by
work to be accomplished under the required permit.
The following government authorizations have been obtained or Will be
obtained prior to the issuance of a Department of the Army permit:
1. P~rmit from the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation
2. Permit from the Town of Southold
Any criticisms or protests regarding the proposed work should be
PREPARED IN WRITING AND MAILED TO REACH THIS OFFICE prior to
22 May 1981; otherwise it will be presumed that there are no ob-
jections.
It is requested that you communicate the foregoing information con-
cerning the proposed work co any persons known by you to be inter-
ested and who did not receive a copy of this notice
If you have any questions concerning this application, you ~na~y contact
Ms. Regina Flynm of this office, Telephone No. 212-264- 3912
2 Incls:
1. Description of Work
2. Plans
W. M. SMITH, Jr.
Colonel, Corps of Engineers
District Engineer
2
NANY FL-129-t
Aug 78
NANOP-E
APPLICATION NO. 81-190
PUBLIC NOTICE NO. 10682-8t-190-L2
DESCRIPTION OF WORK
The applicant proposes to construct an 18' jetty extension to the west
of the entrance channel to Cull Pond. The purpose of this project is
to stabilize the beach to the west of the channel and minimize shoaling
in the channel.
The applicant:also proposes to =mintenance dredge the hatched, semi-elliptical
area shown on ~tha attached drawing. Dredging will he performed to a depth
of 7 feet below the plane of mean low water to remove approximately 60
cubic yards of sand, The dredged material will be deposited on t~e cross-
hatched area shown on the attached drawing where it will be suitably
retained by ~the existing bulkhead to prevent reentry into the waterway.
Future~ d~edgi~g ope~rations are anticipa-ted to be :needed once over the
ten year li~e of the permit.
In addition the applicant proposes to repair the existing bulkhead on
both sides of the canal. The repaired bulkhead w-iT1 be of the same
material and wilt be in the same location and configuration as the
existing bulkhead. This portion of the project is authorized bya
Corps of Engineers nationwide permit and does not require further
authorization before it is undertaken.
C#P. N iV E. L.
D
Re§~l~ory Affairs Unit
40, SD-NY - ROom 219
Brook, New 'fork 11794
516-7~i-7~00
April 23, 1981
Joseph M. Ve~der~o~, Presldemt
Cleaves Point Property O~ers ~$oeiation
Box t73
Re: ~ 15278-0157 WQ
Dear
I ha~a reviewed your permit as issued by this office amd it appears quite
a~ or above ~ hi~ water ~ ~mstr~ct ~er Ca~. r~p ~d floating
deck ~
in regards to t~he Town Trustees of Southoid, I ~%ave not ~ the
to ~ ~ them~ t am ~e ~-~Ili~ ta ~e~ ~th ~ T~tees ~o d~c~s amy
Simce a permit has be~a !ss~ed for this project. I eamno~ red,est a p~blie
I would be willing to a~te~d a meeting arranged L~f t.he Town.
If amy dama§e ~s o~urred ~ a ~sutt of ic~ or winter s~ to your
~his ~fflce is granting ~ner~ Pe~i~ for repair.
~o~r pe~it ~s Iss~d 0~ 10/9/80 and a~ t~s ti~: I am mot aw~ of a~y
~ank you for your
Very tr~!y yours,
Charles T. Me, iron
~so~iate ~v. Amalyst
CLEAVES POINT
PROPERTY OWNERS
ASSOCIATION, INC.
EAST MARION, L. I., NEW YORK
~ox 173
11939
April 7,
Board of Trustees
Tbwn of Southold
Sm~thold, N~w Tork 11971
Re: Application for Tempora_~yBldg.
Cleaves Point
1981
on Dawn Drive
Gentlemen:
It has been brought to the attention of this
Association that the subject spplicaticn is filed for
your approval. I take this opportunaity on behalf of our
membership to strongly object to this type of structure
for the following reasons.
1. It is in violation of the restrictions as outlined on
the deeds of the community.
It adds to the pollution of Gull Pond because of the
boats already too numerous that tie up to the existing
bulkheads to be used as ~ammer residences.
3. The moored boats become a nuisance to the residents with
late ni~hts and early moz~ing act~vm~z~s.
Hopefully we will be presented with au oppor~uity
to express these objections tc your Board and to include com-
plaints about the congestion of the boat population that is
collecting ~d polluting the other brauch of the Pond
as Fordham Canal (which is becoming ~u open sewer).
Hoping to hear your ooinion of this condition in
time to save our area from f~th~r problems.
V~ry truly yo~s~rs .~ ~
Woseph N. V~aernoth - ~es.
Cleaves Point ~operty Association ~o.
BUII~DE~S CORPORATION, a Gom~sulc cozpe~..
of business at 14 Dawn D=ivo, Cen:ereach,
of Mew York, hereinafter referred
WHEREAS, :he DECLARAnt, of
· Sectzon
· d ·
lan!, known as '~ap of Gleaves P0in=, '""
Clerk of ~he County of Suffolk as
' k
of ~ew Yor ~ and;
divided parcels, or any pot:ion of' =he'~af°re~nti°ne~-
~e~ and conditions here~ se: for=h
power~ and priveleges wkich shall accrue. ~0 each propeT:y,. ., o~er of any par=
' d
o~ the aforemen~mone proper~y;
FI~T: plans and specifications ~d ~ell~g. or
of plo: shall firs: be approved by DEGL~ ~' ~i~g before any
such ~eilinE is mrec=ed or ~adlng
~reasonab!y withhold such approval.
floor area less ghan 1000 square' f~e~;
SEC0~: No business s~cture s
proper~y sold or conve~ed by DECL~A~ nor shall any
for business purposes of any k~d whatsoever.
.THIRD: No proper~y owners
orDawn Lagoon.shall extend any float, s:=uc=ure~ pie=,
Gull Pond, or ~awn Lagoon. , -~.
.Co~tinued;oo.o.-.-.
TO:. Applicant
Address
Permit(s~ aDc, lied for:
New York State Department of Environmental Conservation
NOTICE OF COMPLETE APPLICATION
THIS IS NOT A PERMIT
Town of Southold By: Jolm Geideman, Engineer Date
BOX 416, East Marion, NY
s/6/sl
11939 App. Nos,
TW 15278-0106 "A"
Project Description
[] and Site Location:
Town Southold County
Construct 18' timber jetty extending seaward from existing bulkhead on
westerly shore of Gulf Pond Entrance Channel. Project site on Orient Harbor
at Nozman E. tflipp Town Perk, Tc~rn of Southold, Suffolk.
PUBLIC COMMENT: Applications may be reviewed at the address listed be[ow and specific comments on the proj-
ecl or a request to become a partyqn-interest if a public hearing is held. must be submitted in writing to the contact
person named
below no later than June 3, 1981
B~ law. this date must be at least 14 days (30 days for a 5PDE5 Permit) from the date the notice will appear in the
Environmental Notice Bulletin.)
LEAD AGENCY: IqYSE[EC
SEQR DETERMINATION: (check appropriate box)
[] SEQR-1 Project is not subject to SEQR because it is exempt, excluded, or a Type It action.
[] SEQR-2 Project is a Type 1 action it has been determined that the project {may. will not) (circle appropriate)
have a significant effect on the environment. A Negative Declaration has been prepared and is on file.
IZ SEQR-3 Project is an unlisted action: it has been determined that the project will not have a significant effect on
the environment.
[] SEQR-4 A draft environmental impact statement has been arepared on this prolect and is on file.'
[] SEQR-5 A final environmental impact statement has been prepared on this prolect and is on file.
CONTACT: [name, agency, aOdress, telephone humbert
Daniel J. Larkin, NYSDEC
Bldg. 40, SUNY, Room 219
Stony Brook, NY 11794
(516) 751-7900
TO THE This is to advisb thai your aoohcation is comolete and a review has comrnencea. Additional information may be requested from you
APPLICANT: at a future date if deemed necessar~ ~n order to 9¢ocess me application.
The project has been classified nommmor. Accordmgly, a decision wil be made within 90 days of the date of this notice. If z public
hearing ~s necessar~ , ou will be notified within 60 da~,s, a nd the hear}ng will commence w/th 90 days of the date of this notice.
hearing is held, the final decision will be made within 60 days after the hearing is completed.
cc: Chief Executive Of Rcer
Environmental Notice Bulletin. Room 509 50 Wo[f Road. AIba~ N.Y. 12233
File
cc: ENB, Suffolk County Executive, U.S. Fish & Wildlife, PF=RC,
3~JDI'[H T. TERRY -
Southold, L. I., N. Y. 11971
TELEPHONE
(516) 7654801
May il, 1981
TO:
The Suffolk Times
The Long Island Traveler-Watchman, Inc.
Please publish once, May 21, 1981, and forward Two affidavits of
publication To Judith T. Terry, Southold Town Clerk, Town Hall,
Main Road, Southold, New York 11971.
Also posted on ~lletin Board and distributed to the Town
Board members,~and Conservation Advisory Council on
May 11, 1981. ~ .~