HomeMy WebLinkAboutZBA-02/04/1959Southold Town Board of Appeals
SOUTHOLD, L. I., N. Y.
Telephone SO 5-26~0
APPEAL BOARD
MEMBERS
Robert W. Gillispi¢, Jr., Chairman
Robert Bergen
Herbert Roscnbcrs
Charles Gregonis~ Jr.
Ser~e Doyen, ..Ir.
Southold Town Board of Appeals
February ~, 1959
A regular meeting of the $outhold Town Board of Appeals
was held at the T~n Clerk's Office, Southold, New York, on
Wednesday, February ~, 19%9 at ?530 P.M.
There were present: Messrs. Robert W. Gillipie,
Chairman, Robert Bergen and Charles Gregonis, Jr.
Absent: Mr. Herbert Rosenberg and Mr. Serge Doyen, Jr.
Also present: Hr. Howard M. Terry, Building Inspector.
PUR~IC KRARING~ Appeal No. 135, upon application of Eva
~. Main, 100 Circle Drive, Pla~dome Manor, Long Island, New
xork, for a variance in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance,
ArtiCle IV, Section ~00, Subsection 1, for permit construct
duplex dwellings on Lots 10, 11 and 12 located at east side
GoldinLane, Southold, New York.
Chairman opened the hearing by reading application for
the variance, notice of disapproval issued te applicant by
the Building Inspector, and leg~ notice of hearing with affi-
davit attesting to its publication in the official newspaper.
Mr. Terryshowed a sketch of the property and described
CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
for this application?
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~r. Gordon Ahlers, Ja~esport, New York, spoke for the appli-
cant. Mr. Ahlers l~oduced a cardboard model of the property and
proposed location of the structures, and stated they would like to
construct four (~) units. He indicated the side yard -~d rear yard
requirements have been complied with and then explained that the
average setback on ~oundview Avenue is 26 ft. and on Goldin Lane
17 ft.
Discussion was held relative to the previous appeals made by
Mrs. Main on lots 11 ~-d combined lots iS an~ 1~.
OHAIRNAN: The buildings you would like to move, how are they
to be located with relation to ~oldin Lane?
MR. Am.~n~S: Those cottages we will move back ~5 or 50 ft.
from the street line.
MR. BERGEN: What have you allowed for parking area for cars?
MR. AHLERS: There will be space provided next to the porch
on each side,
and in the back of the duplexes, there will be room
for
that.
As
! mentioned before the hearing began, there will
be a centr~l water system to supply all units, and there will be
two cesspools for each ~tt. The density allowed by the Code is
for 20 fRm~lies and we are only putting in 10 f~mtlies. As far as
enhancing the area, this cluster of cottages will ~mprove the area
greatly.
CNAIRMAN: How~any lots was this in before?
MR. ~S: Seven lots.
CHAIRMAN: Mr. Terry, is this a filed map?
MR. T~RY: This is a filed subdivision.
CHAIRMAN: It is proposed to place six structures in the final
arrangement of the buildings on seven lots, is that correct?
MR. ~wr.RRS: Yes.
MR. MAIN: There will be lawn around the entire area, and
driveways for parking in the rear. There w~uld be no necessity
for parking on the read - Goldin Lane.
There was considerable diecussion relative to placing of the
cottages which are to be moved to the rear of the property and it
was decided they should be placed at the minimum distance allowable
by the Ordinance.
The Chairman drafted the following proposed resolution to
enable everyone present to have a clear picture of the appeal:
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The proposed structures be numbered cons.ecutivel, y from north
to south 1,2, 3, ~, 5, --d 6.. ~,mbers 1, 2., %, and 6 are duplexes
with outside d~mensions of 7% ft' x 20 ft. % in. Structure No. 3
is 2~ x 38 a-4 Structure No. % is 21 x 3~.
Duplex No. 1 to be located parallel to $oundview Aveuue at a
distance of not less th~n 26 ft. conforming with the prevailing
adjacent setbacks on Soundview Avenue. The easterly line of this
Duplex to be no closer at any point to the easterly line of the
property than 10 ft. 6 in. The westerly line on Goldin Lane to
be no closer than 17 ft.; Duplex No. 2 - the northerly line of
Duplex No. 2 to be at no point closer than 20 ft. to Duplex No. 1.
The westerly line of Duplex No. 2 facing on Goldln Lane to be
parallel to Goldin La-~e at a distance of 17 ft; Building No. 3
to be located parallel to Goldin Lane at a distance no closer than
1% ft. to the easterly property line. Build~-_~ Ne. 3 to be equally
distant from the southerly line of Duplex No. 2 and the northerly
line of Duplex No. ~; Duplex No. ~ to be located parallel to Goldin
Lane at a distance of 17 ft. and ~% ft. fr~a the southerly line of
Duplex No. 2; Building No. %, which is 21 x 3~, to be located parallel
to Golden Lane equally distant between the southerly line of Duplex
No. ~ and the northerly line of Duplex No.6, and at a distance no
closer than 1% ft..from the easterly line of the property; Duplex
No. 6 to be~oc~ted ~% ft. south of Duplex No. ~, parallel to Goldin
Lane at a distance no closer than 17 ft. No part of the southerly
line of Duplex No. 6 to be closer than 17 ft. from Route 27.
CHAIRMAN: I~ tb~t what you people are requesting?
MR. Am.~: Yes.
CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak against
this application?
MR. DANIEL OHARNEWS, You~gs Avenue, S~uthold, N.Y.,~ You have
already granted themper~ission on those two buildings on the ends.
You have given them a little leeway already. I think that is
enough.
CHAIRMAN: When you impose zoning restrictions on a whole area
some things won't fit. This situation, as I ,mderst~d it now after
tonight - this was a filed map of the Town, which is a recognized
map in the Zoning Ordinance. They become a part of it. Zome lots
are -nder-size, however the man owned them 20 or 30 years am~ they
are in the "B" Business District and he has certain rights which
exist a,~_. occasionally you have to give a variance.
MR. CHARNEWS~ The point is, if he came in in the beginning
would you have given him the whole four duplexes then - a variance
of ordinance for the whole four in the beginning?
CHAIRMAN: Yes, I think we w~uld have.
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MR. CHARNEWS= This is Just like having ten houses on seven
lots.
CHAIRMAN: ~t is not the same, there are proposed to be four
duplexes, which are similar te ranch-type houses.
The Chairaaa aaswered several of ~r. Charnews' questiens
relative to sewage, and parking facilities.
~r. Charnews explained that he o~ned beach-front property
100 ft. east of a piece of beach-front property owned by ~r. Main
and he was concerned that the additional structures, bringing more
people into the area, would cause ~ overflow on to his beach. Mr.
Oharnews went on to say that he did not feel the propesed structures
would be an asset to the neighborhood.
MR. MAIN= Mr. Oharnews, we believe these buildings will
the value ~f all property in the vicinity. Yours =4 ~ine.
MR. CHARNEWS= I suppose you are going to have an office in
ene of the end duplexes.
MR. ~AIN= I have ~Jready made plans for the renting ef the
duplexes. They will be rent~n~ them for the season or half season
only. As a matter of fact Mrs. Main and I intend to live in one of
the small cottages in the rear during the mmer.
Mr. Charnews stated that these hearings seemed to. be at quite a
convenient ti~e when no one who owned property in the area (~osLly
sum~er residents) co,Id attend.
The Ohairman~allyexpXained to Mr. Oharnews the ~rocedure that
is followed when setting up a F~blic hearing.
MR.CHARN~S= It does not seem right to ~e, that as I u~derstand
it ze~ is uude~ state Jurisdiction. ! don't think the State should
be able to take the power away fro~ the Town officials.
CHAIRMAN= Of all the hearings I have conducted, before and
after zoning went into effect, this is the first ti~e ! have heard
mention of ~tate controlled zo-~-~. (The Chairman went on to
clarify this point in Mr. Charnews, mind.)
C~A~= As to the legality of this request, it seems quite
reasonable to ~e. I weuld defend anything you would l~Fe to do as
well as this because ~ believe this is leg~.
Hearing Closed.
The aforementioned resolution was offered by Mr. Bergen, sedonded
by Mr. Gregonis and ~,~,imeusly carried.
Vote of the Board= Ayes- Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen, Mr. Gregonis.
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Minutes of January 29, 1959 were read. On motion of Mr.
Gregonis, seconded by Mr. Bergen and carried, the minutes were
approved as submitted.
The next regular ~eeting of theBoard of Appeals is scheduled
for ?230 P.M., March 12, 1959.
Meeting adjourned at 9:~0 P.M.
respectfully submitted,
~udith T. Boken
Secretary