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MEMBERS
Robeff W. G1]ilspie, Jr., Ch~irm~n
Robert Bergen
Herbert Rosenberg
Char!es Gregon[s, Jr.
Serge Doyen, Jr.
SOUTHOLD, L.I., N.Y.
Telephone SO 52660
MINUTES
Southold Town Board of Appeals
~arch 20, 1958
A regular meeting of the $outhold Town Doard of Appeals was held
on Thursday evening, ~arch 20, 1958, at 7:30 P.~. at the ~attituck Fire
House, Pike Street, Mattituck, N.Y.
There were oresent:
Robert W. Gillispie, Jr., Chairman
Bobert Bergen
Herbert Rosenberg
Charles Grigonis, Jr.
Absent:
Er. Serge Doyen, Jr.
Also Present:
Howard E. TePPy, Building Inspector
PUBLIC HEARINJ: Appeal No. 47 - Application for permissive use dated
March 3, 1958, by Arnold S. Sacks of New Suffolk Avenue, Mattituck, New York,
in connection with establishing labor camp to be moved from one section of
property which was originallySacks to another section. This property located
South side of Sound Avenue, Mattituck, New York. There were 5 persons present
at this hearing.
The Chairman opened the meeting by reading the legal notice of hearing,
affidavit of publication in the Long Island Traveler-~attituck Watc.hman, and
letter to attorney for applicant advising of date of hearing.
Chairman: ~Is there any one present who wishes to speak "for" this
application?"
William Wickham, Esq. of Mattituck, New York, stated that he represented
Mr. Sacks and that Edgar Hills of 140 Nassau Street, New York, was associated
with him. Mr. Wickham stated that he aopeared because of the fact that Mr.
Sacks was sick and Mr. Hills was unable~to get out from the city. He presented
to the Board a map showing the location of the Sacks farm.
~r. Wickham: #~r. Sacks has owned this acreage for some years, having
bought it from the Downs f~mily.Xn 1955 be placed a labor camp in this wood-
land right across from Westphalia Road. In August 1956 Mr. Sacks sold this
Southold Town Board of Appeals Mar~ 20, 1958
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land on which the labor camp is located to Mr. William Cbudiak, with the
provision that Mr. Sacks could leave his labor camp there *or one year and
then would have to move it. In 1957 Mr. Chudiak allowed him to have the
labor camp there through the 1957 season. Now he is obligated to find
another location. He has picked a location south of Sound Avenue, about 900
feet south of Sound Avenue, still on his farm. His farm land runs fairly
level south from Sound Avenue to the spot marked by crayon, then slopes off.
~here is a sort of shelf ~lght here. IV the camp is located in this position,
very little will be seen either from the street or the surrounding areas.
"Care must be taken to consider its position in relation to other
buildings and residences. There is a commercial building owned by Papish
Equipment Company. This is Mr. Papishts commercial location in farming
equipment and cars. Across the street, catty-cornered, is Mr. Bullock~'s
residence, nerhaps 1OOO or llOO feet from the proposed location. To the
northwest is Mr. Jazombek?s residence, a distance of aopro~ims~tely l~OO feet.
Off to the northeast is Mrs. Pylko~s residence, about ~lOO feet distant.
There are no residences in this location here except a great distsnces over
to Laurel Lake. After this is the property of C. A. Price and Comoany, Inn,
This area here is pretty much swamp, trees and shrubs. The trees swing up to
the Hallock property, so it is a question of whether this house would see the
camp on account of the trees. But there are no residences right here whatso-
ever. Now it seems that Mr. Sacks, in requesting or asking that this labor
camp be located in this oositlon i~ being extremely considerate. As I indi-
cated earlier, wiZh the camp in this location it would be a much ~impler and
much cheaoer ooeration for him, with electric light lines right there and
right on the road. Otherwise he has to ou~ a road in down here, he has to
Out his own orivate electric li2ht line in at his own expense, there is no
way the comoany will do it.
"I frankly can't see how such a location can be ch~.!lenged. He is taking
it away from this location in close orowimity to a great number of oeople. He
is putting it down here where just the top can be seen from the road ~nd a
very goodly distance from any commercial venture or any residence. We have
numerous cases in Southold Town where there are l~bor camps which I don~t
think compare in location. In Cutchogue by the railroad tracks. And the
i.M. Young pu~ one in down in Southold with much opposition but which is
working out very well, But in this case he is going to a great deal of
expense, it costs a great deal of money.
"We respectfully urge the Board to consider favorably the application."
C' "Is
hairman, there any one else who wi~hes to speak for this
application? Is there any one who wi~bes to speak against it?"
Mrs. ~ary Pylko: "I wish to speak against it. I am against the camp
because when t~ey had it on the other side we had quite a few disturbances
at midnights and in the morning."
Nr. Anthony S. Pylko: "The law can prove that there's trouble there
every d~y. They don~t even live like human beings. I~m very much against
it. It s going to disvalue the property automatically by having a camp there.
We are thinking seriously about having a development there ourselves."
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Chairman: "How far away is your property from this location?"
Mr. Pylko: "About llO0 feet. But they go all over the farm. We have
trouble two or three olclock in the morning. You can see them layinz out
in the road where the coos have to come to pick them up.'t
Chairman: "That~ in the location it wac in - the old location?"
~r. Pylko: "Yes."
Bergen: "How about the one on the old Do~,~ farm?"
~r. Pylko: "They have no trouble."
~r. Bergen: "This one will be farther away ~han that one is."
~rs. Pylko, speaking for her mother, Mrs. Eva Bullock: "Ny mother
says that they come from the other camp into here and have great parties and
make a lot of noise every night. They telephone all the time. Always come
calling the cops."
Chairman: "Do you have any other ~uggestion as to where the camp might
be located?"
Mr. Pylko: "They have a labor camp in Cu%chogue. PUt them there."
Chairman: "Is that all you have to say?"
Nr. Ed. Jazombeck~ Mr, Jamombeck questioned the location of the road
on the map, then stated: "~om where I am, I presume that's where the poles
are going and everything. From my place all the windows are facing right at
it, and of course I know these people, the way they act up in the s~mer, and
I don~t want any trouble with my family when I~m not around. I looked that
hand over tod~y and I think I can see it every day. I don~t know quite Just
where it is goin$ to be located, but I ~ve an idea that anybody in my shoes
if they lived there, I donlt think they would like to look at it all the time.'
I~m not too keen about it."
Chairman:
applic~.tion?
application?"
"Is t~ere any one else who wishes to soeak against this
there any one who wlshe~ to soeak in ~ebuttal for this
Nr. ~ickham: "I Just have two things in mind. One is the fact that I
do not believe that the police department ha~ any objection or has any
violent or general difficultie~ with the camp that is being moved. I do say
this, also, that the condition of the camp and. ~he conditions around the camp
~re matters for the Board of Health ~nd if there are any comolalnts that is a
m~tter to be brought up before the Board of Health rather than to tbi~ meeting.
I ~till think this location is about as good as you can find anywhere in
Southold Town for a labor camp. It~ a good distance from any residence and
below the Ievel of the road, and I can't conceive of ~ better olace to put
Chairman: "I~ there anyone who wishes to ~pesk in rebuttal agminst
t~i~ ~pplication?"
March , 1958
Southold Town Boa~d of Appeals
Continued.
Mr. Pylko: "My wife expects to develop our farm. Putting in a labor
camp i~ going to disvalue the property. Nobody wants a labor camp close to
their property. ~We~ll ~ee our attorney or ~omebody and look into tbls, and
ask the tax asseseor~ to come down and re-asses~ the whole thing."
Chairman: "I~ there any one else? Are there any questions the members
of the Board would like to ask, or ~r. Terry?"
The hearing w~s a~e~zl two weeks, to April 3, 1958 at 7130 P.~. at
Southold, in order to give every one en opportunity to submit any additional
information. Tbs Chairman stated that any communic~ttons should be addressed
to the Board of Appeals, 8outbold.
~r. Hugh C. Hurdle then came in for an informal discussion with the
Board relative to set-backs in connection with his property on Main Road,
$outhold, New York. It wa, the decision of the Board that they direct Mr.
How~.rd Terry, Building Inspector, to i~sue a temporary Certificate of
Occupancy to ~r. Hugh C. Hurdle for l~O days or upon completion of the Job
of moving the signs in question if done prior to 120 days, thl~ certificate
to become permanent providing the signs at the corners of ~he ~n®~ are
m~ved to conform, to ~he ori~inal specifications submitted to the Board of
Apoeals.
WUBLIC HEARING: ~pDlication No. 2~3 - Appeal from decision of Building
Inspector dated ~arch %2, 1958 by R. B. Hudson, 4 ~lddelton Road, $reenport,
New York, appealing to the Zoning Board of Appeals from the decislon of the
Building Inspector on Application for Permit No. Z 2~3 dated ~arch 12, 1958.
The Chaix'~an read the legal notice of hearing, affidavit of 0ublication
in the Long, Island Traveler-~attituck ~atchman, and ~. letter advising ~r.
Reginald HudsOn of the date of the hearing.
The applicant not being present, the hearing was recessed one week, to
~arch 2~, 1958 at 9:00 P.M. at Southold, due to lack of informal!on.
The Chairman then read a letter from the $outhold Town Planning ~o~rd
dated March 1~, 1958, stating that a meeting of the Planning Board held on
March ll, 19~8, the following recom~endation was made:
"The Planning Board recommend9 to the Board of Appeals that in cases
entailing acce~ to l~rgely built-up areas, they con~ider ~rantin~ ~cce~s
under PSO-a, Section 3-"
A discussion of tBis recommendation was b~.~d by the Board.
}gr. Howard Terry then pre~ented to the Board the request of ~r. and
~r~. Thoms~ Jurzena of Silvermere Road, Greenoort, New York, for approval
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of sign~ to be placed on their property s~t Silvermere, Greenport. It was
the unanimous decision of the Board that ~r. snd ~re. Jurzena be permitted
to erect signs which conform to Section 405 of the Ordinance, and a letter
to that effect was sent to Nr. and Nfs. Jurzena.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:~5 P.E.
Respectfully submitted,
Ann Grigoni~
A~i~tant Clerk