HomeMy WebLinkAboutPetitions & Complaints - Noise September 5 , 2002
To Supervisor Josh Horton ,
Listening to your recent board meeting on
television it was once again with complete
disbelief to hear Southold does not have a noise
ordinance or plans for one . In vein we and others
have requested from each board through out
the years to give us protection from unreasonable
noise . It is such an injustice not only to the
elderly , young sick , fristrating to law en-
forcement people who are compleety helpless
answering a noise complaint .The last time an
ordinance was presented -after pressure- was preset
it was so childlike , ludicrous -ra ther in jest or
vengeful it completely defeated a reasonable law.
Shelter Island , Riverhead and Southampton all
have a noise ordinance . Is it so diffuclt for
Southold to have a silil r law?
Mr . Horton we are impressed beyond words with
Your knowledge , sense of fairness in studing the
pros and cons of multi problems . A Supervisor
\ who not only listens but followups is very
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refreshing . Our two votes were well cast .
Thank you for your time and any help .
Sincerely
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7635 Main Bayview Road
Southold, New York
September 5, 2002
Mr. Josh Horton
Southold Town Supervisor
Southold Town Hall
P.O. Box 1179
53095 Main Road
Southold, New York 11971
Dear Mr. Horton,
I have enclosed correspondence about the need for a noise ordinance in Southold.
The arguments for such an ordinance have not changed, nor are the likely to.
For my specific complaints the cast of characters has changed, but the problem remains.
The yellow SUV driver is away at school now and the truck and its driver have also gone.
In their place we now have a blue TRANS AM, a gray pickup, and two black pickup
trucks,
all of which make their home somewhere on Cedar Drive (Cedar Lane) in Bayview. In
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there are bass-booming cars and trucks on Bayview Road, too numerous to document.
Please consider giving us relief from this intrusion on our senses.
Sincerely yours,
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JULY 9 2001
Mr. William Moore
Southold Town Councilman
Southold Town Hall
P.O. Box 1179
53095 Main Road
Southold,New York 11971
Dear Mr. Moore:
I understand that you were the Chairman of the committee to decide whether or not a
noise ordinance should be enacted in Southold 'Town and that you opposed such an
ordinance. It is difficult to understand your reluctance, but it is possible that you live in a
quiet neighborhood where noise is not a problem.
My wife and I live on Main Bayview Road, at the corner of Cedar Drive (lane) a very
heavily traveled road. Our house is on a corner where there is a STOP sign for vehicles
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entering Main BaYviewfrom Cedar. This is a blind intersection so all drivers observe the
STOP sign and there is the problem. The main offenders are young people with radios,
bass enhanced to 200-300 watts, enough to literally rattle the dishes in our kitchen. While
radios are the main problem, there is another problem, a truck-tractor with a cutout
muffler that sounds like a machine-gun when the truck decelerates,to stop at the STOP
sign.
Curiously enough both vehicles are painted a bright yellow, not that the color is the
reason for the noise, but that the vehicles are easily identified. As it turns out, both
drivers live on Highwood off North Bayview Road, once again not a factor in the noise,
just a coincidence that these immature, insensitive individuals live on the same road.
Highwood is approximately one-half mile from where we live, and we can hear the boom
as the drivers leave their homes until they have gone at least that distance on Main
Bayview Road.
I politely asked the worst offender, a young man with the yellow SLJV to not play the
radio so loudly, and he was better about it until he went away to college, however, on his
return in June the full bore blast started again and continues. Others in the vicinity are
bothered by this excessive noise, and people who live across from Hurt's Hardware,
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where this person is employed, have the same complaint. No one wants to be the one to
compla4 but the Quality of life is seriously compromised by these insensitive people
and, as you are aware the Police Department will not take action because of no noise
ordinance to back them up. We hear excuses such as other statutes existing that could be
used for enforcement but no one seems to be able to locate these statutes, if they do exist.
Another excuse we hear is that a noise meter is too expensive and that police training
would be necessary. I am familiar with the meters and the difficulty in learning their use.
The meters can be purchased at Radio Shack for as little as $60, and I would be happy to
purchase two for the Police Department, and take the hour necessary to teach them how
to use the meters.
I am enclosing an article from Suffolk Life addressing the same problem upon which the
Suffolk Police are taking action.
Mr. Moore, it is not coincidental that surrounding Townships have enacted noise
ordinances, they care about their constituents. Please take some action to bring us relief
from this problem.
Sincerely yours,
Wesley R. Dickinson
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SCPD Takes Aum AtLewenng
Noise Levels
The Su&W County Police Department modify their exhaust for more horsepower,"
recently concluded its training with the said Sergeant James Farrell of the High-
new sound level meters that will help to way Patrol Bureau.
,atotne Sections 375.47 and 386 of the Vehi- The ordinances can he as simple as the
de.and Traffic Law.These ordinances per- level .of stereo output — one ordinance
taro-to the sound output levels—whether holds that no car may exceed 70 decibels at
from stereos or exhaust systems—in auto- a distance of 25 feet foam the listener--or
c aobiles and motorboats that are considered complicated enough to depend on the
to be too loud. weight and speed of the vehicle in question-.
While these laws have been in effect for The new devices are equipped to wea-
some true, the Police Department has swe any and all bxUrs pertaining to the
€asked the appropriate devices for detecting -pacific sordwance that is in violation, Far-
such violations and the funds to g VCUre roll said.
them_ The sound level meters have finally Each p vcinct wiH send out one trained !
cone clown to a maeageahte cost and Suf- officer to ramlom to monitor far
folk County Police have had one ordered for violations. The. fines fca such violations
every ptpeirodin the county. begin at$100 for a fist time offense,up to
"It's part of the department's overall $200 for a second offense and$500 for the
plan to reduce the noise of loud stereos, thirst and successive offensrs.
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SUPERVISOR �Q
JEAN W. COCHRAIV' V�.�� Ct7 , Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
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JUSTICE LOUISA R EVANS C4 Telephone(631) 765-1889
WILLIAM D. MOORE
JOHN M. ROM.ANELLI Gy • !'� Fax (631) 765-1823
BRIAN G, MURPHY O
CRAIG A. RICHTER
TOWN BOARD
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
July 20 2001
Mr. Wesley R. Dickinson
7635 Main Bayview Road
Southold, NY 11971
Dear Mr. Dickinson:
Thank you for your letter dated July 9, 2001 with respect to a noise ordinance for the town
of Southold. As you may have seen in the local papers, I presented a comprehensive noise
ordinance to the town board on Tuesday and a public hearing will be held at the end of July.
My problems with noise ordinances in general have been the ability to enforce them in a
court when there is a persistent offender and secondly, the idea that we need a law to create civility
among neighbors. I am frustrated that as a community we have reached the point where we believe
we need a law because some people seem unable to respect their neighbors. I had a professor in
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a school who wrote In heaven the lion will lie down with the lamb, hell there will be
nothingbut law. I have always thought of Southold as heaven and I am not quick to endorse
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the idea that we need another law. I know that it takes only a few people to make life miserable for
others, and unfortunately, we end up with laws to deal with the few lemons. Most everyone else
do not need a noisenc r i
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keep the few who need it, in line, and we will solve the noise problems in town.
I thank you for your comments, and if you are interested in the proposed law, a copy is
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ab a at the town clerk's office. It will be published as well in the al notices of the paper as
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JOHN M. ROMAI'vELLI ♦ � Fax (6,31) 765-1823
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CRAIG A. RICHTERl.
TOWN BOARD
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
August 10, 2001
Mr. Wesley R. Dickinson
7635 Main Bayview Road
Southold, NY 11971
Dear Mr. Dickinson:
Thank you for your letter of July 9'h. As you may now be aware, a noise ordinance was
presented to the Town Board several weeks ago and was the subject of a public hearing
last week. The proposed law received a lot of criticism and is being reviewed and revised.
I have referred your specific complaints with regard to the loud vehicles in your
neighborhood to our police department for their action.
Thank you for sharing your concerns with me. I hope that, between a revised noise
ordinance and the efforts of our police department, the noise problems in your
neighborhood can be resolved.
Sincerely yours,
William D. Moore
Councilman
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Mr. William D. Moore
Town Hall
P.O. Box 1179
Southold , New York 11971
Dear Mr. Moore:
Thank you for your letter of August 10. It was a reassurance that you have some
understanding of my complaint, but may be overlooking the obvious solution, equipping
the Police Department with decibel meters and ug�&m randomly in the way that
speeding violations are kept in check. Referring to you letter of July 20, 20011 am in full
accordance; with the biblical `In heaven the Iion will lie down with the lamb...) etc. If
onlythe world had come to realize the practicality of that thought, however, 2000 ears
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of histo have proven it to be more theoretical than radical. Laws, as you certainly
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know from your profession, are the only defense that we have against complete
barbarism.
I feel thatwor ou will continue to draft an ordinance that will be effective and will
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improve the quality of many lives.
Truly yours,
Wesley R. Dickinson