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Home My WebLink AboutTB-09/09/2014 ELIZABETH A.NEVILLETown Hall,53095 Main Road TOWN CLERK a�o� oay PO Box 1179 Southold,NY 11971 REGISTRAR OF VITAL STATISTICS o Fax(631)765-6145 MARRIAGE OFFICER y�lpl �ao� Telephone: (631)765 - 1800 RECORDS MANAGEMENT OFFICER southoldtown.northfork.net FREEDOM OF INFORMATION OFFICER OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERK SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD REGULAR MEETING September 9, 2014 4:30 PM A Regular Meeting of the Southold Town Board was held Tuesday, September 9, 2014 at the Meeting Hall, Southold,NY. Call to Order 4:30 PM Meeting called to order on September 9, 2014 at Meeting Hall, 53095 Route 25, Southold,NY. Attendee Name Organization Title Status Arrived Robert Ghosio Town of Southold Councilman Present James Dinizio Jr Town of Southold Councilman Present William P. Ruland Town of Southold Councilman Present Jill Doherty Town of Southold Councilwoman Present Louisa P. Evans Town of Southold Justice Present Scott A. Russell Town of Southold Supervisor Present Elizabeth A. Neville Town of Southold Town Clerk Present Martin D. Finnegan Town of Southold Town Attorney Present I. Reports 1. Budget Report 2. Dept of Public Works Monthly Report 3. Special Projects Coordinator Monthly Report 4. Zoning Board of Appeals Monthly Report II. Public Notices 1. NYS Liquor License - New September 9, 2014 Page2 Southold Town Board Meeting III. Communications IV. Discussion 1. 9:00 Am -Jim Bunchuck 2. 9:30 Am -Jeff Standish 3. 9:15 - Lloyd Reisenberg 4. Special Event Approval 5. Include the Goldsmith Inlet Ecosystem in the Army Corps of Engineers Hashamomuck Cove Feasibility Study 6. Transient Rental Legislation 7. SLDC Website & Start-Up Expenses 8. Cultural Literacy Sensitivity Training 9. Motion To: Motion to Enter Executive RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby Enter into Executive Session at 10:55 AM for the purpose of discussing the following matters: Proposed Property Acquisition - Land Preservation, the publicity of which would substantially affect the value thereof Labor—Recreation Matters involving employment of particular person/s Litigation-Nocro, Ltd., et al. v. Town of Southold, et al. RESULT: ADOPTED [UNANIMOUS] MOVER: Louisa P. Evans, Justice SECONDER:Jill Doherty, Councilwoman AYES: Ghosio, Dinizio Jr, Ruland, Doherty, Evans, Russell 10. 10:45 Am - EXECUTIVE SESSION - Proposed Property Acquisition/S - Land Preservation 11. 11:15 Am -EXECUTIVE SESSION - Labor- Recreation 12. EXECUTIVE SESSION - Litigation 13. Motion To: Motion to Exit Executive RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby Exit/Recess from this Executive Session at 12:08PM. September 9, 2014 Page3 Southold Town Board Meeting RESULT: ADOPTED [UNANIMOUS] MOVER: Louisa P. Evans, Justice SECONDER:Jill Doherty, Councilwoman AYES: Ghosio, Dinizio Jr, Ruland, Doherty, Evans, Russell 14. Motion To: Recess 9:00 AM meeting RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby Recess this 9:00 AM meeting of the Town Board at 12:08 PM until the Regular 4:30 PM Meeting of the Southold Town Board RESULT: ADOPTED [UNANIMOUS] MOVER: William P. Ruland, Councilman SECONDER:Jill Doherty, Councilwoman AYES: Ghosio, Dinizio Jr, Ruland, Doherty, Evans, Russell Motion To: Reconvenes 9:00 AM meeting RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby reconvenes the 9:00 AM meeting of the Southold Town Board at this 4:30PM/7:30PM Regular Meeting of the Southold Town Board. RESULT: ADOPTED [UNANIMOUS] MOVER: Scott A. Russell, Supervisor SECONDER:William P. Ruland, Councilman AYES: Ghosio, Dinizio Jr, Ruland, Doherty, Evans, Russell Opening Comments Supervisor Scott A. Russell SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Please rise and join in the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag. Thank you. At this time I would ask anybody that would like to comment on any of the agenda items to please feel free. I would just ask if you would come up to the microphone so we can make sure we get it on tape for transcription. Konrad Klauer, Cutchogue KONRAD KLAUER: Konrad Klauer, Cutchogue. The housing problem that we have with short term rentals, is that on the agenda? SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: That was on a work session discussion this morning and the Town Board is basically now in the process of finding out what kind of codes have been adopted in other Towns and we are evaluating the issue as to whether it needs to be addressed by town code adoption or not. I don't think the Town Board has taken a position yet. We are still doing fact finding. COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: It is not going to be discussed here tonight. COUNCILMAN DINIZIO: Well, no, we would like to hear your story after.... Supervisor Russell September 9, 2014 Page4 Southold Town Board Meeting SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: After we get the agenda done, we would love to hear any input you want to provide. Does anyone want to comment on any of the agenda items? (No response) Minutes Approval RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the minutes dated: Tuesda ,July 15,2014 ✓Vote Record-Motion Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent Robert Ghosio Seconder El ❑ ❑ ❑ Q Accepted James Dinizio Jr Voter Q ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Accepted as Amended William P.Ruland Voter Q ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Tabled .. _ Jill Doherty Voter Q ❑ ❑ ❑ Louisa P.Evans Mover Q ❑ ❑ ❑ Scott A.Russell Voter Q ❑ ❑ ❑ RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the minutes dated: Tuesday,July 29,2014 ✓Vote Record-Motion Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent Robert Ghosio Seconder Q ❑ ❑ ❑ Q Accepted P James Dinizio Jr Voter Q ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Accepted as Amended William P.Ruland Voter Q - ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Tabled Jill Doherty Voter Q ❑ ❑- ❑ Louisa P.Evans Mover Q ❑ ❑ ❑ Scott A.Russell Voter Q ❑ ❑ ❑ V. Resolutions 2014-736 CATEGORY. Audit DEPARTMENT. Town Clerk Approve Audit RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby approves the audit dated September 9 2014. ✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2014-736 Q Adopted ❑ Adopted as Amended ❑ Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent ❑ Tabled Robert Ghosio Seconder Q ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Withdrawn James Dinizio Jr Voter Q ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Supervisor's Appt William P.Ruland Voter El ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Voter Q ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Rescinded Louisa P.Evans Mover Q ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Town Clerk's Appt Scott A.Russell Voter El ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Supt Hgwys Appt ❑ No Action 0 Lost September 9, 2014 Page5 Southold Town Board Meeting 2014-737 CATEGORY. Set Meeting DEPARTMENT: Town Clerk Set Next Regular Meeting RESOLVED that the next Regular Town Board Meeting of the Southold Town Board be held, Tuesday, September 23, 2014 at the Southold Town Hall, Southold,New York at 7:30 P.M.. ✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2014-737 0 Adopted ❑ Adopted as Amended ❑ Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent ❑ Tabled ❑ Withdrawn Robert Ghosio Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ James Dinizio Jr Voter 0 ❑ ❑ Supervisor's Appt ❑ ❑ ❑ Tax Receiver's Appt William P.Ruland Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Rescinded Jill Doherty Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P.Evans Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A.Russell Voter El ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ No Action ❑ Lost 2014-738 CATEGORY: Recommendations DEPARTMENT.• Town Clerk Waive the 30 Day Notification of the Application for a Liquor License RESOLVED the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby waives the 30 Day notification for the application of a new liquor license by Tom's NoFo Restaurant (O'Mally's) 44780 Middle Road, Southold. ✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2014-738 0 Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent ❑ Adopted as Amended Robert Ghosio Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Defeated ❑ Tabled James Dinizio Jr Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Withdrawn William P.Ruland Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Supervisor's Appt Jill Doherty Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Louisa P.Evans Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ 0 Rescinded Scott A.Russell Voter 0 0 0 0 September 9, 2014 Page6 Southold Town Board Meeting ❑ Town Clerk's Appt ❑ Supt Hgwys Appt ❑ No Action ❑ Lost 2014-739 CATEGORY: Budget Modification DEPARTMENT: Information Technology I.T. Budget Modification Financial Impact: Move funds within the Information Technologies accounts. RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the 2014 Information Technologies budget in the General Fund Whole Town as follows: From: A.1680.4.100.554 Tapes and Diskettes $1,000 A.1680.4.100.557 Printer Cartridges 300 A.1680.4.100.150 Computer Paper 500 Totals $1,800 To: A.1680.2.400.520 Computer Software $1,800 Totals $1,800 ✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2014-739 D Adopted ❑ Adopted as Amended ❑ Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent ❑ Tabled Robert Ghosio Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Withdrawn ❑ Supervisor's Appt James Dinizio Jr Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Tax Receiver's Appt William P.Ruland Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ Jill Doherty Mover El ❑ ❑ ❑ Rescinded ❑ ❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P.Evans Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A.Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ No Action ❑ Lost 2014-740 CATEGORY: Budget Modification September 9, 2014 Pagel Southold Town Board Meeting DEPARTMENT. Human Resource Center HRC Reallocation of Donation Funds Received from Giordano. Financial Impact: Reallocation of Donation funds RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the 2014 General Fund Whole Town budget as follows: To: Revenues Other Donations A.2705.40 Gifts and Donations $100.00 Total: $100.00 To: Appropriations Programs for the Aging A.6772.4.100.110 Contractual Expense Program Supplies and Materials $100.00 Total: $100.00 ✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2014-740 21 Adopted ❑ Adopted as Amended ❑ Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent ❑ Tabled ❑ Withdrawn Robert Ghosio Voter Q ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Supervisor's Appt James Dinizio Jr Voter D ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Tax Receiver's Appt William P.Ruland Mover Q ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Rescinded Jill Doherty Voter D ❑ 11 11 ❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P.Evans Seconder ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A.Russell Voter El ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ No Action - ❑ Lost 2014-741 CATEGORY: Surplus Equipment DEPARTMENT. Human Resource Center Declare HRC Vehicle Surplus Financial Impact: Declare HRC vehicle N-8 surplus due to extreme wear and tear and high mileage. September 9, 2014 Page8 Southold Town Board Meeting RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby declares the following equipment to be surplus equipment: HRC Fleet Vehicle N-8- Asset# 2596—2000 Ford Crown Victoria Be it further RESOLVED that the Town Board authorizes and directs the Town Clerk to advertise for the sale of same with a minimum bid of$100. The vehicle is located at the Southold Town Human Resource Center, 750 Pacific St., Mattituck. ✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2014-741 0 Adopted ❑ Adopted as Amended ❑ Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent ❑ Tabled ❑ Withdrawn Robert Ghosio Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Supervisor's Appt James Dinizio Jr Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Tax Receiver's Appt William P.Ruland Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Rescinded Jill Doherty Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P.Evans Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A.Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ No Action ❑ Lost 2014-742 CATEGORY: Refund DEPARTMENT. Town Clerk Art on the Green Deposit Return WHEREAS Abatelli Realty Co., Inc has supplied the Town of Southold with a Clean-up Deposit fee in the amount of$250.00 for the Art on the Green Art Show and WHEREAS the Southold Town Police Chief, Martin Flatley, has informed the Town Clerk's office that this fee may be refunded, now therefor be it RESOLVED that Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes a refund be issued in the amount of$250.00 to Abatelli Realty Co., Inc., PO Box 472, Cutcho ue,NY 11935. ✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2014-742 0 Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent ❑ Adopted as Amended Robert Ghosio Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Defeated James Dinizio Jr Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Tabled William P.Roland Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Withdrawn .till Doherty Voter El ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Supervisor's Appt Louisa P.Evans Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ 0 Tax Receiver's Appt Scott A.Russell Voter 0 0 0 0 September 9, 2014 Page9 Southold Town Board Meeting ❑ Rescinded ❑ Town Clerk's Appt ❑ Supt Hgwys Appt ❑ No Action ❑ Lost 2014-743 CATEGORY.• Refund DEPARTMENT: Town Clerk Boy Scout Troop #6 Deposit Return WHEREAS the Southold Boy Scout Troop # 6 has supplied the Town of Southold with a Clean- up Deposit fee in the amount of$250.00 for their Car Show and WHEREAS the Southold Town Police Chief, Martin Flatley, has informed the Town Clerk's office that this fee may be refunded, now therefor be it RESOLVED that Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes a refund be issued in the amount of$250.00 to Southold Boy Scout Troop #6, PO Box 67, Peconic NY 11958. ✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2014-743 0 Adopted ❑ Adopted as Amended ❑ Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent ❑ Tabled ❑ Withdrawn Robert Ghosio Voter 0 ❑ ❑ 0 ❑ Supervisor's Appt James Dinizio Jr Mover : 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ 11 Tax Receiver's Appt William P.Ruland Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Rescinded Jill Doherty Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P.Evans Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A.Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ No Action ❑ Lost 2014-744 CATEGORY. Refund DEPARTMENT: Town Clerk Clean Up Deposit Return WHEREAS the Mattituck-Cutchogue Athletic Booster Club has supplied the Town of Southold September 9, 2014 Page 10 Southold Town Board Meeting with a Clean-up Deposit fee in the amount of$250.00 and it was subsequently determined that a permit was not necessary, now, therefore be it RESOLVED that Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes a refund be issued in the amount of$250.00 to Mattituck-Cutchogue Athletic Booster Club PO Box 1241, Mattituck, NY 11952. ✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2014-744 0 Adopted ❑ Adopted as Amended ❑ Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent ❑ Tabled ❑ Withdrawn Robert Ghosio Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Supervisor's Appt James Dinizio Jr Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Tax Receiver's Appt William P.Ruland Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Rescinded Jill Doherty Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P.Evans Voter O ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A.Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ No Action ❑ Lost 2014-745 CATEGORY: Public Service DEPARTMENT.• Town Clerk Appoint Temporary Marriage Officer RESOLVED the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints Michael Rebentisch as a Temporary Marriage Officer for the Town of Southold, on Friday, September 26, 2014 only, to serve at no compensation. ✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2014-745 ❑ Adopted 0 Adopted as Amended ❑ Defeated ❑ Tabled Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent ❑ Withdrawn Robert Ghosio Voter 0 ❑ ❑ 1:7 ❑ Supervisor's Appt James Dinizio Jr Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Tax Receiver's Appt William P.Ruland Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Rescinded Jill Doherty Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P.Evans Seconder El ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A.Russell Voter El ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ No Action 0 Lost September 9, 2014 Pagel l Southold Town Board Meeting 2014-746 CATEGORY.• Refund DEPARTMENT. Town Clerk Refund of Alarm Payment WHEREAS Michelangelo's Pizza over paid the alarm renewal fee by $90.00, now therefor be it RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes a refund of$90.00 to Michelan elo's Pizza, 518B Montauk Highway, Eastport,NY 11941, for over payment. ✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2014-746 0 Adopted ❑ Adopted as Amended ❑ Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent ❑ Tabled ❑ Withdrawn Robert Ghosio Seconder 0 13 p ❑ Supervisor's Appt James Dinizio Jr Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Tax Receiver's Appt William P.Ruland Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Rescinded Jill Doherty Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P.Evans Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A.Russell ; Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ No Action ❑ Lost 2014-747 CATEGORY: Budget Modification DEPARTMENT. Police Dept Police Department-Donation Financial Impact: Donation from the Mattituck Lions Club for the purchase of two (2)Defribulators RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby increases the 2014 General Fund Whole Town budget as follows: Revenues: A.2705.40 Gifts & Donations $4,000 TOTAL $4,000 Appropriations: September 9, 2014 Page 12 Southold Town Board Meeting A.3120.2.500.250 Police/Other Equipment Defribulators $4,000 TOTAL $4,000 ✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2014-747 0 Adopted ❑ Adopted as Amended ❑ Defeated ❑ Tabled Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent Robert Ghosio Mover D ._ ❑ ❑ _ 0 ❑ Withdrawn 11 Supervisor's Appt James Dinizio Jr Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Tax Receiver's Appt William P.Ruland Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Rescinded Jill Doherty Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P.Evans Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A.Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ No Action ❑ Lost 2014-748 CATEGORY: Attend Seminar DEPARTMENT. Accounting Authorize Attendance of Advanced Accounting School RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants permission to Account Clerk Diana Whitecavage to attend the Office of the State Comptroller's Advanced Accounting School in Brookhaven New York on October 21 to 23, 2014, to use a Town vehicle for travel, and to charge the $100 registration fee to the 2014 Accounting & Finance Department Meetings & Seminars appropriation (A.1310.4.600.200). ✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2014-748 0 Adopted ❑ Adopted as Amended ❑ Defeated ❑ Tabled Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent ❑ Withdrawn Robert Ghosio Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Supervisor's Appt James Dinizio Jr Mover El ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Tax Receiver's Appt William P.Ruland Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Rescinded Jill Doherty Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P.Evans Voter D ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A.Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ No Action ❑ Lost September 9, 2014 Page 13 Southold Town Board Meeting 2014-749 CATEGORY: Contracts, Lease&Agreements DEPARTMENT: Community Development 2014 Shellfish Program- Cornell Financial Impact: 2014 for the Town of Southold's Shellfish Program at Cedar Beach: Clams, Oysters, Scallops RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs Supervisor Scott A. Russell to execute an Agreement with Cornell Cooperative Extension, in connection with the 2014 Southold Town Shellfish Program, in the amount of$20,000 for the term January 1, 2014 through December 31, 2014, all in accordance with the approval of the Town Attorney. ✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2014-749 0 Adopted ❑ Adopted as Amended ❑ Defeated _ Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent ❑ Tabled ❑ Withdrawn Robert Ghosio Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Supervisor's Appt James Dinizio Jr Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Tax Receiver's Appt William P.Ruland Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ 11 ❑ Rescinded Jill Doherty Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P.Evans Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A.Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ No Action ❑ Lost 2014-750 CATEGORY: Refund DEP.4RTMENT: Town Clerk Return of Clean Up Deposit-NFA WL WHEREAS the North Fork Animal Welfare League has supplied the Town of Southold with a Clean-up Deposit fee in the amount of$250.00 for their yard sale and WHEREAS the Southold Town Police Chief, Martin Flatley, has informed the Town Clerk's office that this fee may be refunded, now therefor be it RESOLVED that Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes a refund be issued in the amount of$250.00 to the North Fork Animal Welfare League, 165 Peconic Lane, Peconic, September 9, 2014 Page 14 Southold Town Board Meeting NY 11958. ✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2014-750 0 Adopted ❑ Adopted as Amended ❑ Defeated ❑ Tabled Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent ❑ Withdrawn Robert Ghosio Voter El ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Supervisor's Appt James Dinizio Jr Voter El ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Tax Receiver's Appt William P.Roland Mover !� 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Rescinded Jill Doherty Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P.Evans Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A.Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ No Action ❑ Lost 2014-751 CATEGORY: Refund DEPARTMENT: Town Clerk Return of Clean Up Deposit- Cutchogue Fire Department WHEREAS the Cutchogue Fire Department has supplied the Town of Southold with a Clean-up Deposit fee in the amount of$250.00 for their annual BBQ and WHEREAS the Southold Town Police Chief, Martin Flatley, has informed the Town Clerk's office that this fee may be refunded, now therefor be it RESOLVED that Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes a refund be issued in the amount of$250.00 to the Cutchogue Fire Department, 260 New Suffolk Road, Cutchogue, NY 11935. ✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2014-751 0 Adopted ❑ Adopted as Amended ❑ Defeated ❑ Tabled Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent ❑ Withdrawn Robert Ghosio Seconder El ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Supervisor's Appt James Dinizio Jr Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Tax Receiver's Appt William P.Ruland Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Rescinded Jill Doherty Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P.Evans Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A.Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ No Action 0 Lost September 9, 2014 Page 15 Southold Town Board Meeting 2014-752 CATEGORY. Bid Acceptance DEPARTMENT. Town Clerk Award Highway Equip Bid RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the following bids for the following items: Awarded to: Asset# Item Desc. Bid Price Coastline Cesspool 100 1981 Hyster Trailer $2,767.00 Donald Grim 112 1987 Ford F-800 Dump Truck $1,012.12 Sponza Farms 2505 1999 John Deere Model JD6200 $6,800.00 Steven Wolbert 2499 1999 Dodge Ram 3500 $751.00 Ed Goodwin #1 10' Flink plow $120.00 #2 12' Tenco plow $120.00 #3 12' Flink plow $125.00 3509 1978 Load-King trailer $1,670.00 1790 1992 Graco line lazer striper $201.00 1715 1963 35yd steel dump trailer $1,430.00 ✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2014-752 0 Adopted ❑ Adopted as Amended ❑ Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent ❑ Tabled ❑ Withdrawn Robert Ghosio Mover D ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Supervisor's Appt James Dinizio Jr Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Tax Receiver's Appt William P.Roland Voter ❑ ❑ 0 ❑ ❑ Rescinded Jill Doherty Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P.Evans Seconder El ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A.Russell Voter D ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ No Action ❑ Lost 2014-753 CATEGORY. Bid Acceptance DEPARTMENT. Highway Department September 9, 2014 Page16 Southold Town Board Meeting Highway Equipment-No Bid WHEREAS the Town Clerk advertised for bid the following Highway items: 100 gallon hydraulic Globe Lift Inc. tank 2556 1993 Ford F-350XL Dump truck 2251 1997 Dodge Ram 2500 Pick up truck 2364 1999 Ford F-250 Pickup truck 3310 1997 Dodge Ram 1500 Pick up truck 2359 1998 Ford Crown Victoria 2353 1998 Ford Crown Victoria 4-door 3281 1998 Ford Expedition And WHEREAS no bids were received on these items, now therefor be it RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby declares these items as surplus and un-usable and authorizes and directs Superintendent of Highways Vincent Orlando to properly dispose of such equipment. ✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2014-753 0 Adopted ❑ Adopted as Amended ❑ Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent ❑ Tabled ❑ Withdrawn Robert Ghosio Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Supervisor's Appt James Dinizio Jr ; Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Tax Receiver's Appt William P.Ruland Seconder_ 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ Jill Doherty Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Rescinded ❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P.Evans Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A.Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ No Action ❑ Lost 2014-754 CATEGORY.- Seqra DEPART LENT. Town Attorney SEQRA/Nocro, Ltd., Et Al. V. Russell, Et Al. WHEREAS, the Planning Board of the Town of Southold has, by resolution dated September 8, 2014, ratified and approved a Stipulation of Settlement in the New York State Supreme Court hybrid proceeding/action entitled Nocro, Ltd, et al v. Russell, et al, Suffolk County Index No. September 9, 2014 Pagel? Southold Town Board Meeting 09-19101, in which the Town Board and the Planning Board are named as respondents/defendants (the "Stipulation"); and WHEREAS,the Town Board and the Planning Board have caused to be prepared a Short Environmental Assessment Form to evaluate the environmental impact, if any, of this action pursuant to Article 8 of the Environmental Conservation Law("SEQRA") and the implementing regulations therefor at 6 NYCRR Part 617; and WHEREAS,the Town Board of the Town of Southold intends to serve as Lead Agency for the SEQRA review of this Unlisted Action, and in this capacity will determine if the proposed action will have a significant effect on the environment; and WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Southold has reviewed the Short Environmental Assessment Form and the Stipulation and has determined that the proposed action will not have a significant adverse impact on the environment and, as such, an Environmental Impact Statement need not be prepared for such action; now, therefore be it RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby finds that the ratification and approval of the Stipulation is classified as an Unlisted Action pursuant to SEQRA Rules and Regulations and the Town Board hereby establishes itself as Lead Agency for the uncoordinated review of this action and issues a Negative Declaration for the action and authorizes Supervisor Scott A. Russell to sign the Short Environmental Assessment Form for the action. ✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2014-754 0 Adopted ❑ Adopted as Amended ❑ Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent ❑ Tabled ❑ Withdrawn Robert Ghosio Voter 0 p ❑ 11 ❑ Supervisor's Appt James Dinizio Jr Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Tax Receiver's Appt William P.Ruland Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Rescinded Jill Doherty Mover El ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P.Evans Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A.Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ No Action ❑ Lost 2014-755 CATEGORY. Litigation DEPARTMENT. Town Attorney Nocro, Ltd., Et Al. V. Russell, Et Al. Stipulation of Settlement Approval RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby ratifies and approves the Stipulation of Settlement in the New York State Supreme Court hybrid proceeding/action September 9, 2014 Pagel8 Southold Town Board Meeting entitled Nocro, Ltd., et al. v. Russell, et al., Suffolk County Index No. 09-19101, in which the Town Board and the Planning Board are named as respondents/defendants and hereby authorizes Supervisor Scott A. Russell to execute said Stipulation on behalf of the Town of Southold and the Town Board respondents/defendants. ✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2014-755 0 Adopted ❑ Adopted as Amended ❑ Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent ❑ Tabled ❑ Withdrawn Robert Ghosio Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Supervisor's Appt James Dinizio Jr Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Tax Receiver's Appt William P.Ruland Mover El ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Rescinded Jill Doherty Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P.Evans Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A.Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ No Action ❑ Lost 2014-756 CATEGORY: Special Events DEPARTMENT. Town Attorney Pour the Core Cider Festival/Special Event Approval RESOLVED that,pursuant to the provisions of Section 205-7(A) of the Southold Town Code, the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants permission and authorizes the Town Clerk to issue a Special Events Permit for the "Pour the Core Cider Festival" at 31320 Main Road, Cutchogue, to be held on October 4, 2014, from 10:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m., subject to the standard conditions imposed on the applicant in the August 27, 2014, special event application and the following additional conditions: 1. Use of Stillwater Avenue shall be prohibited and barriers erected to prevent vehicular traffic; 2. A water truck shall be kept on site for the duration of the event and used to mitigate any dust produced; 3. A Two Million Dollar Certificate of Insurance naming the Town of Southold and County of Suffolk as an additional insured shall be filed with the Town Clerk; 4. Capt. Kruszeski shall be contacted upon receipt of the approval of this resolution to coordinate traffic control; 5. Any road markings or signs for the event shall be removed within twenty-four(24) hours of the completion of the event. ✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2014-756 0 Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent 11 Adopted as Amended September 9, 2014 Page 19 Southold Town Board Meeting ❑ Defeated Robert Ghosio Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Tabled James Dinizio Jr Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Withdrawn William P.Roland Voter ❑ 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ Supervisor's Appt Jill Doherty Voter D ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Louisa P.Evans Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ Rescinded Scott A.Russell Voter ❑ D ❑ ❑ ❑ Town Clerk's Appt ❑ Supt Hgwys Appt ❑ No Action ❑ Lost Comment regarding resolution 756 SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I just want to record a no vote on that. I think the application is well outside of the scope and the intent of the special events legislation. Closing comments Supervisor Russell SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: That concludes the agenda. I would invite anybody that would like to address the TB to please feel free. Come on up. Konrad Klauer KONRAD KLAUER: Konrad Klauer from Cutchogue. Inaudible. There are six houses in Fleets Neck listed on the AirB&B website, (inaudible) they had a party of about 16 people, they were rowdy and loud. They were rowdy from the 3PM check in time inaudible. Where does the business district end and residential begin? These are businesses. Who is paying the taxes? Inaudible. There was an article about helicopters, they dropped their prices so they can get a cheaper flight out here and they also advertised on one page that the sea plane would take you out and if you have a dock on the waterfront, they would take you right up to the house. Thank you. SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Thanks. I just want to tell you that the points you raised are well taken by the Board. They actually echo a lot of the comments we have been getting since this issue came under discussion a little under a month ago. So your points are well taken. Who else would like to address the Town Board? Linda Goldsmith LINDA GOLDSMITH: Hi, Linda Goldsmith East Marion. At the last meeting on August 26th, you granted permission to the Douglas Moore concert committee to have a guess an event on August 23. So it is kind of hard on August (inaudible) SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I am not even aware that the event has taken place yet. COUNCILMAN DINIZIO: No, it did. September 9, 2014 Page20 Southold Town Board Meeting SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Oh, it did. So we had to do it retroactive. Point well taken. MS. GOLDSMITH: Inaudible. The other thing was, I understand what the gentleman is saying about the short term rentals. There are a lot in East Marion. The biggest problem is the noise. It is. Inaudible. But I caution the board against too much restriction because when I was traveling in Cape Cod several years ago, somehow my reservation was lost and the Chamber of Commerce there actually found me a room in someone's home and they have a list for(inaudible) Even in Riverhead as far as the hotels there COUNCILMAN RULAND: Excuse me, was that home owner occupied? MS. GOLDSMITH: Inaudible. It wasn't owner occupied, it was a guest home on their property. But even regardless, it's not a bad thing (inaudible) so I just caution against too many laws. The other question is any news on what we are going to do about deer? They now jump 6 foot fences (inaudible) SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: We actually, with recent changes to the hunting regulations, I think we are able to open another 135 acres for the town hunt this year but look, this is a crisis that was years in the making and there's probably not going to be a simple resolution. MS. GOLDSMITH: Inaudible. COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: Have they put an application in to the Trustee's? The Southold Trustee's yet? MS. GOLDSMITH: Inaudible. SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: We actually, because we have a positive declaration of SEQRA declared on the site and we are waiting for a new environmental impact statement on the other one application, we are an involved agency, so I have notified the Planning Board to weigh in on the application before the army corps of engineers. MS. GOLDSMITH: Inaudible. SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Well, they have two there. One application would cover the revetment of the shoreline and then the dredging of the pond there. MS. GOLDSMITH: Inaudible. SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Thank you. Who else would like to address the Town Board? Robert Dunn ROBERT DUNN: Inaudible. September 9, 2014 Page21 Southold Town Board Meeting SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: We would agree. Actually, that's County owned property and we have asked the County to take some measures to protect that bluff which is, as you know, disappearing. The county has determined that it's a low use or light use park so the county has not put it on its list of priorities. MR. DUNN: I understand that. Inaudible. SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: It is an asset that they should protect just like any other asset regardless of use. MR. DUNN: Inaudible. SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Okay. MR. DUNN: Inaudible. SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I don't think they would either. Alright, thanks Robert. Would anyone else like to address the Town Board? George Aldcroft GEORGE ALDCROFT: My name is George Aldcroft, usually I am always here talking about the ecology of Goldsmiths Inlet but that's not why I am here. I am here because of Arshamomaque and going through that, I found out that the area called Goldsmiths Inlet it's not the inlet, it's the area west of the inlet and all along through Kenney's beach may not be included in that study anymore unless the Town Board approves it and what I want to read is from the study because I am concerned from living there and watching, I have pictures from when the last flood was there and (inaudible)the water is up to here down Second Avenue. And so when you take a look at those homes, you take a look at the road there in that area and then you have Kenney's beach with their homes and when you take a look at the maps, I mean I want to read here, problem 4 is at Goldsmiths in that section that they talk about Kenney's beach. It says, Goldsmiths Inlet, where past coastal stabilization efforts at the inlet have resulted in a habitat degradation by negatively impacting the littoral transport within the study area, conditions are such in this area that habitat degradation has occurred and existing developmental area is vulnerable to erosion and wave attack. And taken collectively, these problem areas illustrate the existing threat of coastal storm damages to the transportation system with residents and businesses in the study area. And further discussion of these problem areas and potential solutions are described further. When I take a look at the picture they have, this whole area is a flood area. And it seems to me if it is not included in some way there, that the people who have homes in that area, all the way to Kenney's beach will not be include in the study and so then the question becomes who cares about their homes, who does something for their homes? Is that up to the Town then or Suffolk County or if we can get the army corps of engineers to include it somehow because that is part of the area and if it is taken out, then that is not covered at all. Thank you. SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Who else would like to address the Town Board on any issue? September 9, 2014 Page22 Southold Town Board Meeting Jill Franke JILL FRANKE: Jill Franke, Southold. Inaudible. SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: We rely heavily on the department that handles personnel and compliance with civil service rules so that would be the Accounting department and our personnel person there. MS. FRANKE: Inaudible. SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I would, first of all, there's a couple of different issues there. The termination that is something that is spelled out by I think the public employees law of the State of New York. Not by civil service. But civil service would govern who we hire,the lists that are established. I think you know because you have been on a few lists. Have to select one of the top.... MS. FRANKE: Inaudible. SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Yes, for compliance with civil service law, absolutely and collective bargaining agreements, absolutely. And state employee law. MS. FRANKE: Inaudible. SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Well, first of all, you have to create a position. If you don't have the position there,then you have to go to civil service and create a position with a duty statement if you want to take someone from part-time to full-time. They would need to be reachable on the list, that means they would have to be one of the three highest scores on the civil service exam, if there is a list that is established by civil service. If there is not, you can hire provisionally. You hire someone provisionally, they have to take the test and you hope they are going to be one of the three highest test scores, otherwise, and if they are not then they have to be let go. TOWN ATTORNEY FINNEGAN: If I can just add, it's the three highest willing candidates. SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Okay. MS. FRANKE: Inaudible. SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: That's a legal question. I am going to defer to Martin on that. TOWN ATTORNEY FINNEGAN: It depends on the length of employment, the status of the employee. Certain employees get protection under civil service law such as (inaudible), so if there is a reason for termination, the town has to go through it. There is also a procedure under the collective bargaining agreement that deals with employee discipline. We have rules in the employee handbook as well. Civil service law doesn't necessarily dictate how we handle that, so there are a number of different factors depending on the employee's status. September 9, 2014 Page23 Southold Town Board Meeting MS. FRANKE: Inaudible. TOWN ATTORNEY FINNEGAN: I can. SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: It's an awful lot of detail to ask at a Town Board meeting. Most of that stuff is probably available to you, I mean.... TOWN ATTORNEY FINNEGAN: There's a page on our web site that details all these questions. If you want to go on the website you can look at the Accounting Department, there are questions on it, frequently asked questions that can address most of the questions you are asking here. MS. FRANKE: Inaudible. TOWN ATTORNEY FINNEGAN: You can be, depending upon your status. Part time employees do not have section 75 rights, so you.... MS. FRANKE: Inaudible. TOWN ATTORNEY FINNEGAN: Well, that depends, it depends on what the disability is, it depends on how that's determined. I don't know what you mean by disabled. MS. FRANKE: Inaudible. TOWN ATTORNEY FINNEGAN: That's an injury, not a disability. If you are unavailable to do the job and you don't otherwise have legal protection for the position, yes, you can be terminated. The fact that there is an injury does not save a job. If the town needs to fill a position, needs an employee in that position... MS. FRANKE: Inaudible. TOWN ATTORNEY FINNEGAN: An injury is not a disability. It's an injury. MS. FRANKE: Inaudible. TOWN ATTORNEY FINNEGAN: Well, we can agree to disagree on your interpretation of that but I would agree that there are certain types of disabilities that the town has to deal with in terms of a termination proceeding. I don't believe that having a broken bone is a disability that is protected. If you can't come to work, the town has to fill the position. MS. FRANKE: Inaudible. TOWN ATTORNEY FINNEGAN: I am not going to speculate. MS. FRANKE: Inaudible. September 9, 2014 Page24 Southold Town Board Meeting SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Who else would like to address the Town Board on any issue? George. George Alderoft MR. ALDCROFT: Maybe people do not know where I live. I do not live on the beach, I do not live in any of the low areas so when anything has happened, I have never been affected by the storms, I have only seen what has happened to other people's homes. And I do not live right exactly on the inlet, I live across from it. But when you live there, and you see what happens to people's homes and the concern, that's what I have. Thank you. SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Thank you, George. Konrad Klauer MR. KLAUER: Inaudible. SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Yes, I have to tell you that it certainly has become an issue. I didn't realize how far and wide the problem was until it was brought to my attention at a meeting in East Marion. But since it has come to a public issue, we are getting an awful lot of input on it. Anybody else want to address the Town Board on any issue? Hugh? Hugh Switzer HUGH SWITZER: Hugh Switzer, Peconic. Has the Town Board made any decision as to whether or not they want to have Goldsmiths Inlet included in the army corps of engineers study? SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: No. That's what this Board needs to determine over the next two weeks. The discussion today was I guess left at the fact finding stage, for each Board member. MR. SWITZER: Thank you. Jill Franke MS. FRANKE: Inaudible. SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Can you make a specific request? A specific request in writing as to the information you want? And you can direct it to the Town Clerk's office. MS. FRANKE: Inaudible. SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: We allocated for them in the last budget. I don't know when they were purchased, over the last couple of months I assume. And I doubt they have been delivered yet. COUNCILMAN RULAND: We got them. SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Oh, we got them? September 9, 2014 Page25 Southold Town Board Meeting MS. FRANKE: Inaudible. COUNCILMAN RULAND: One is the building inspector, one of the building inspectors.... COUNCILMAN DINIZIO: Code enforcement. SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Code enforcement has the old one... MS. FRANKE: Inaudible. COUNCILMAN RULAND: The Supervisor has the other one. MS. FRANKE: Inaudible. COUNCILMAN RULAND: One of the building inspectors. MS. FRANKE: Inaudible. COUNCILMAN RULAND: The code enforcement has the black one. MS. FRANKE: Inaudible. SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Would anybody else like to address the Town Board? John Betsch JOHN BETSCH: I just want clarification on something, I am confused. A while ago the Town Board tried to or made a resolution to allocate money to study re-resurrect or re-look at the DEIS. Was that money then tabled based on the fact that the army corps $2.6 million was now going to cover the area from Goldsmiths down to Hashomomaque. It's a catch 22 either something has to be looked at back at Goldsmiths or it has to be included in the $2.6 million study. Now all the studies that have been done, whatever, the 905B, reconnaissance, feasibility, all has covered that entire area. I have empathy for the people in Hashomomaque cove since the major storms, they really have been hurt. However, there is a whole area including the Peconic Dunes camp, if you go by Peconic Dunes camp now there's no place for them to even put their boats. Based for 50 years, based on this whole area. Something, you know, one should not be in conflict with the other. They both should be looked at. I think that's the fair thing. If the army corps, now I also understand, if the army corps has allocated or the federal government has allocated $2.6 million to study an area from here to here and now it is only from here to here, you should not be spending $2.6 million. You cannot take that money and shrink it down and cover one whole area. That's not appropriate allocations of money, either that money gets reduced and let them do their study and the remaining money gets re-looked at to study the remaining area or cover the whole thing. I think that's the only equitable thing. SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I have got to tell you, if you don't think the federal government can cut the scope of the study and still spend all that money, you haven't met the federal government. September 9, 2014 Page26 Southold Town Board Meeting Your point is well-taken. Look, erosion isn't a problem that's unique to Hashomomaque Cove, it's a problem everywhere. Kenney's and McCabe's in particular. Certainly the dynamics of the jetty, the coast along there. My understanding was it was going to be a more comprehensive study when it was originally proposed. The original scope was much broader and wider than what's on the table now. And this board has been asked to consider making a request to the army corps of engineers to expand the scope back to its original scope, its original boundaries. The, I think there needs to be an understanding that just because the town, if the town and the board supports a resolution requesting it, it doesn't guarantee that the area is going to be included. It is merely a request for.... MR. BETSCH: I understand that, there was a lot of hoopla from Congressman Bishop saying I got you $2.6 million out of$2.7 needed to cover this whole area and that's all made the news and quietly it's being taken care of. SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Your point is well-taken. COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: That was part of our discussions and we have lots of questions so we didn't want to give a blanket yeah, add it in because we don't want to, be careful what you wish for type of thing. And we want, we were asking some questions of army corps and DEC and we want some more facts before we make the decision. COUNCILMAN DINIZIO: Certainly my question this morning was that and I actually have that, what was approved by, what Congressman Bishop was tooting his horn about, I have that and I am going to read that to see what it covers because it has to be specific and you know, my concern is if we tack, if we try to tack on something then everybody has to wait, you know what I mean? I don't think that that's... MR. BETSCH: I don't think it's a question of tacking on, if you go back to the original statement from the army corps... COUNCILMAN DINIZIO: Well, that's right. MR. BETSCH: It says it's coming west of the Goldsmiths Inlet all the way to some point... COUNCILMAN DINIZIO: My assumption is that that's changed in some way. That's what I am getting from this report so far, that it's very specific as to what is covered for that money and if that's the case, my fear is we ask them now, okay, cover this other area and suddenly they need to start allocating more money to make the study and then we are waiting another 5 or 6 years when we could at least have one part of the town studied and whatever... MR. BETSCH: I don't think you have a logic logic there. If they originally allocated $2.6 million from here to there, that's what they should stick with. COUNCILMAN DINIZIO: Well, I don't know that that's the case though, John. I don't know if that study, where exactly, because I haven't read it yet, in its entirety. Specifically the one that September 9, 2014 Page27 Southold Town Board Meeting Congressman Bishop announced a year and a half ago, two years ago, whatever it was, that one specific one. Because there has been money spent with regard to that. And I have one of the members down there.... MR. BETSCH: No, I understand that. COUNCILMAN DINIZIO: Hopefully they can, you know, I want to know how much money has been spent already. I mean, again, it's a lot of money and they're near the end of something and all of a sudden we are asking to tack on more, with something they hadn't anticipated, you know, what does that do? MR. BETSCH: You keep using the word tack on, it's not tack on it's do what you originally allocated the $2.6 to cover. COUNCILMAN DINIZIO: Right. That's if in fact it's what Congressman Bishop had originally,not originally but settled for. With the amount of money that he got, what's the scope of that? Does that include Goldsmiths? I don't know. MR. BETSCH: Yes, it does. SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: What Jim is basically saying is that to ask them to go back to the original scope is to need to know what the original scope really was. I think that's why he wants the information... COUNCILMAN DINIZIO: No, I want to know what the scope specifically is at this point in time. That's what I want to know. Not on the original, whatever he agreed to. He agreed to something. MR. BETSCH: Right. What you want to know is what Congress approved under that $2.6 million when he announced it. That's what you want to know. COUNCILMAN DINIZIO: Sure. SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: George. George Aldcroft MR. ALDCROFT: I went on to the army corps of engineers website and even though I talked with them and they say there has been a change and this is current as of February 2014, so something has been changed maybe between February and here but there's nothing on their site anything that says that but the fact sheet basically says, description, Hashomomaque cove is located on the north Long Island Sound shore of the north fork of Long Island. The study area extends along both sides Long Island Sound and Peconic Bay of the north fork. East to Orient Point and west to and including both sides of Goldsmiths Inlet. The study area includes several businesses and private homes is subject to substantial over-washing and erosion during the coastal storms. Additionally, County Route 48 may be subject to undermining along Hashomomaque Cove. The federal shoreline protection project along SR 25 was completed in September 9, 2014 Page28 Southold Town Board Meeting 2011 which was damaged due to erosion along the shoreline. Authorization, also representatives, committee on transportation of infrastructure resolution docket number 2773, status,the district initiated reconnaissance phase in July 2007. Reconnaissance report was completed in July 2008 and was approved by NAD in September 2008. This report defines the problems, needs and opportunities for the study area and demonstrates federal interest. District executed the feasibility agreement with the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation in December 2012 for feasibility alternatives that will reduce the risk of damage to the shoreline and private public structures including CR 48. After the Sandy storm event and the passage of PL 113-2 a new FCFA is under preparation that acknowledges that the study will be completed and 100 percent federal cost. The study will be initiated in early 2014 for completion in 2015. Study costs, (inaudible) $100,000; feasibility $2,600,000 total $2,700,000. That was from the US army corps of engineers website. As of February 2014. So I don't know what's happened since then but it seems to me if they are putting this out and there has been a change, where is the change? COUNCILMAN DINIZIO: Right. Because it's less money there. MR. ALDCROFT: Good question. Yes. COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: That's why we want to see the answers in writing. Hugh Switzer MR. SWITZER: I think you can debate and question the details of what is going on but the broader issue, the bigger question, is whether or not this Board wants the army corps of engineers to include the Goldsmith Inlet area and deal with the issue of all the flooding of homes, the erosion of the shorelines and all the damage that is taking place. It is a question of what do you want the army corps of engineers to do, not what are they currently thinking about doing. It is representing this town and the populace of this town that are being damaged by storms and requesting that the army corps of engineers do what they said they were going to do. In other words, you all as the responsible authorities for the town, requesting that they do what they said they were going to do. Thank you. COUNCILMAN DINIZIO: Hugh, I agree with you, okay? I don't want to do that at the expense of somebody else, okay. My concern is that you have a study and I am being told, led to believe that that study has a specific area. Now I don't know, I understand what you are saying. I want to find that out, okay? Now if you are saying what he just read, then we got to start at Orient Point and work our way to you. Am I correct? That's what that said. MR. SWITZER: I am representing the Goldsmith Inlet area and I am representing what they have documented and what Tim Bishop recently confirmed being the scope of their study. And what his understanding is, is that Goldsmith Inlet was intended being included, it was funded to be included and should be included. So I don't know how else to say it except, what does the Town Board want to have happen? Do you wish to have the Peconic Goldsmith Inlet area included? Like it was originally requested and approved and funded or do you not? September 9, 2014 Page29 Southold Town Board Meeting COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: I think honestly for myself, that I think it should be included but I think that where we are at right now is we, I know I haven't seen the last couple of months any changes in writing. I want to find out the facts before I go ahead and you know, it's, when you are dealing with the army corps of engineers and the federal government, you want to make sure you have all your ducks in a line before you request something because then you know what you're talking about before they go ahead. Because we don't want to make something worse, when we know if we just change our wording in a certain way, if we ask for a certain thing, you know, there's too much confusion out there right now with this thing . We want to make sure we have all our facts straight so we can properly create a letter to send to the army corps and the appropriate entities. So it is not something we want to rush into, I think it is something we will handle in two weeks. COUNCILMAN DINIZIO: And I, honestly, you can phrase your question that way but quite honestly, if I have to choose to stop a study in a middle of what they have done already so that Goldsmiths gets a chance at a half measure too, no. Okay? I want, whatever they are doing out there, okay, I want them to complete that. Whatever that is. Okay? MR. SWITZER: No matter what the ramifications? COUNCILMAN DINIZIO: Sure. Because that is what they agreed to. That's now what, you know, we didn't say go do this, go do that. Whatever they agreed to, has been done. A lot of money has been spent already. MR. SWITZER: How much? COUNCILMAN DINIZIO: I don't know. I am trying to find that out. That's what I want to know. MR. SWITZER: So you don't know that it's a lot of money? COUNCILMAN DINIZIO: If we have spent $2,000,000. Already, okay, I want to finish the .7 or the .3 or whatever it is and say that okay, we have completed this project. Unfortunately, it didn't include Goldsmiths, we will need to find some money somewhere else but you can't do half measures. You can't say, okay, no scope,just pull out of there and don't worry about that now until we get it all studied. The federal government doesn't work that way. MR. SWITZER: I hear a lot of speculation about what might have been spent, what might happen.... COUNCILMAN DINIZIO: We are waiting for that Hugh, but you are asking us to make a decision before we get that information. MR. SWITZER: No, the decision is the request. They can respond any way they want to . COUNCILMAN DINIZIO: I am not going to request something..... September 9, 2014 Page30 Southold Town Board Meeting MR. SWITZER: The official request... COUNCILMAN DINIZIO: I am not going to request that, Hugh, until I know what the numbers are. There's no reason for me to request something I have no intention of voting for when I find out we spend $2 million already and we need to complete whatever scope of the work that they intended to do. I am not going to ask anybody, whoa, whoa, let's stop so we can spend .7 on Goldsmiths and not get anything accomplished. MR. SWITZER: I hear you, I understand what you are saying. SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Would anyone else like to address an issue? Susan Switzer SUSAN SWITZER: Susan Switzer, Peconic. I am having a little trouble with the logic, so let me have another crack at it. I know you have heard from a bunch of us on this but if the army corps of engineers study encompassed from west of Goldsmiths Inlet to beyond Hashomomaque and it was $2.7 million, that is what they agreed to do,that is what they contracted to do and so that is what they need to do. Now if they have spent and we don't know, if they have already spent the $2.7 on one little piece then that's their problem and they still contracted to do this and they mismanaged it or whatever they did but it still needs to be finished. It needs to do what they said they would do. And that is all we are is that the Board request that they do what they said they would do. COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: I agree that we need to do that but if they spend the money on that part of the project, then we can attack it in a different angle. We need to have our facts to figure out what angle to take on how to ask them to include it. If they have already spent the money and that project needs to be completed, then we need to go on a different angle to see what monies we can get and start a separate project for Goldsmiths. MS. SWITZER: So the working session this morning was not to decide on an action based on having done the homework and read all this stuff, it was to decide to read all this stuff and now go forward to find.... COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: Well, we had a discussion and we all, in our discussion all these questions were coming up. And we didn't have the answers and we don't have the answers to them right now, so we asked the Town Engineer's department to help us find these answers and they are and hopefully we can come to a decision in two weeks, if we get the answers. COUNCILMAN DINIZIO: I mean, in all honesty, I thought everything was just going along there swimmingly. Okay? You know, we had gotten an answer, we got Congressman Bishop, we had the little press conference, okay, we spent some money, saw some boats out there. In my mind, I thought everything was going just fine until then I see oh, wait, we have to include a place that's six miles down the road. MS. SWITZER: No, we don't. It started out being included. September 9, 2014 Page31 Southold Town Board Meeting COUNCILMAN DINIZIO: Well, I could agree with you but honestly, I need to know just exactly, the amount of work that's being done and has been done already on what Congressman Bishop said would be done and then we can go from there. If you ask the federal government to change something in mid-stream, come on, you know where that's going to go. MS. SWITZER: Again, that's not a change. It is holding them to the original agreement. COUNCILMAN DINIZIO: Yeah, well, guess what, you ask them to hold something and that's just what they will do. MS. SWITZER: No, hold to the agreement. Not hold. I am sorry. Okay, I am done. SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Look, I am going to clarify where I stand right now, so, I think the original intent which was to study to the west all the way out to the east, I think should be honored. I think that erosion is not a unique issue to one area and I think it's unfortunate that the corps has now put us in a position that we are now having neighbor versus neighbor on trying to carve out the resources to their particular community. It shouldn't be that way at all. Also, this is the army corps of engineers we are talking about. I seriously doubt they are very far along in the process. It took them 14 years to dredge the inlet in Mattituck, so I think to have them include that, I know how they work. They just had a site visit the other day. They have a long way to go. And I think if we are going to ask, we should ask sooner rather than later. John? Susan Geitz SUSAN GEITZ: My name is Susan Geitz, I live on Leeton Road. In reality, the army corps of engineers in this study doesn't give a hoot about any of the people that are living along that area, what they are concerned about is the loss of the road. And the people that live there, if anything is done are the ones that will benefit by it. We are not on any main road or anything along Kenney's beach and Goldsmiths, so we really are at the bottom of the pile because their main concern is the roadway and not the people who live along it. Wouldn't you say that's true? COUNCILMAN DINIZIO: Yes, as he said, it took into consideration whether there were businesses or any major highway that, it did, that's what that study seemed to indicate. You are right. MS. GEITZ: So would that include Soundview? COUNCILMAN DINIZIO: Well, again, I can't tell because I haven't been (inaudible) long enough but it seems to me that they prioritized you know, that area. From Orient to Goldsmiths Inlet, they prioritized what they would need. Now, Scott could be absolutely right that may be we are only $100,000 into this thing and maybe we just slip it in, let's go and do it but I want to make sure that that's the case and we are not stopping something that's to the point where we could at least get something fixed. It would be nice, I know it wouldn't be you guys but it would be somebody in town that finally got some relief from the erosion that everybody along the shore is getting. September 9, 2014 Page32 Southold Town Board Meeting MS. GEITZ: But my point is, it seems that the group from Kenney's beach and Goldsmith are the only people that come to Town Board meetings and complain about erosion. Nobody else seems to be complaining. SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Well, there are members of the Hashomamaque Cove, they are very efficient at getting a hold of me, so I assure you, they are complaining about erosion. MS. GEITZ: I mean, when you talk about Orient and places like that. SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: What I would suggest, all the Board members what I am hearing, all they are asking for is an opportunity to do their due diligence on the issue and I don't think that's unfair. Like I have told you, I staked out my position pretty clearly but they are asking for an opportunity to evaluate this, do their due diligence and then render a fair decision in two weeks. I don't think they are being unfair. MS. GEITZ: No, I don't think they are either, it just seems like we are banging our heads against the wall to make if feel better or something because in 40 years nothing has ever happened with that. We have a lawsuit which we supposedly won and the town didn't have the money. And it just goes on and on and on and I am sure I will be dead and gone before anything is even done. Thank you. SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Thank you. Would anyone else like to address the Board? UNIDENTIFIED: Inaudible. SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Sure. COUNCILMAN GHOSIO: All I was going to say was you understand that I have always supported the cause down at Goldsmiths as well as Arshamomaque cove, in this particular place I am familiar with a lot of what was going on in the study in the sense that I was there when the folks over in the cove tried to initiate getting this funding to begin with. The only reaction I really had this morning when we came in for the work session, this was on the work session, was that I understood that the Goldsmith Inlet was part of the study as well. It is described in the scope of the study as being part of it. What I always understood it though was that it was if you studied in there to Orient in terms of its relationship to what was going on in Arshamomaque Cove. That being said, I have absolutely no problem with asking the army corps to adhere to what their commitment was. My only issue was, coming tonight to present a resolution for a problem that first off I didn't really knew existed, okay? I was under the impression that everything was being done accordingly and I just want to make sure that I understand what we are doing before we go forward with the resolution, that's it. SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Would anyone else like to address the Town Board? Jill Franke MS. FRANKE: Inaudible. September 9, 2014 Page33 Southold Town Board Meeting SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Yes, my understanding is that the Town at that point had settled in on a candidate for that position and the Town has no obligation to interview people. They canvassed the list but we aren't even obligated to do that, we just have to follow civil service procedures and we have collective bargaining agreement requiring postings and things like that My understanding was in the discussion that the Town had settled in on a candidate. MS. FRANKE: Inaudible. SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: That's.... MS. FRANKE: Inaudible. SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Civil service, I am sorry. That's just simply not true. Civil service does not require that we interview people and it does not require we notify people that the position was declined,that they were declined from the position. That is not true. We follow civil service law to a T and on top of that, collective bargaining agreement obligations. Okay, I am sorry. MS. FRANKE: Inaudible. COUNCILMAN DINIZIO: Can I just comment on that? You know Jill, the town could do better with that, you know, with being able to handle people, be people friendly. They could do a much better job with that but it seems that there are laws that we have to follow and everybody just seems to do the bare minimum of that. And you know, maybe they should try a little bit harder, maybe we should, if we are going to pick, I can just tell you, the result of what you handed me the other day when you were here is I am certainly going to make sure that I get a list of who has been canvassed when we go to hire somebody. At least then I see, you know, what we have done, we can ask questions. Now that doesn't seem to happen, it is happening with the person we are going to be interviewing for the court. They got the list, take a look at it,just so I have an idea of who is coming, why they came, you know. You have to move, again, it's government. MS. FRANKE: Inaudible. COUNCILMAN DINIZIO: Of course not. I don't. And I still don't. MS. FRANKE: And thank you for admitting that because at least you are not lying. Inaudible. COUNCILMAN DINIZIO: But Jill, it is not necessarily that I have to, I have to (inaudible) go with it to get that information. You know I rely on people to tell me how these things work. I'm just, I am a part-time employee of the Town, I install alarm systems and phone systems, okay, that's what I do. And you know, I devote as much time as I can to this job but trying to figure out civil service law you know, when you have got years and years and years of rules and regulations, I rely on Martin, I rely on John, I rely on our Supervisor who is very good at that and September 9, 2014 Page34 Southold Town Board Meeting it's not like an apology on my part, not an admission that I don't know everything, I mean, I don't know everything. MS. FRANKE: I mean, the one girl that I gave you, you appointed her that night and swore her in that night. Inaudible. That is not normal procedure, it is not normal. When I was dispatching part-time I was appointed, then I had to go for my second eval and I was not sworn in until I went down to Betty Neville's office and took my oath. And this girl was appointed and you, Scott, you yourself swore her in that night. And everything was already done. I was way ahead of her on the civil service list and I wasn't even canvassed. Then a year later you hired another girl that had an equal number on the list that I did, we both scored the same, we were both number 31 in the town, I mean in the county and she wasn't even on there to work on the town zone. So I can't believe that you are following civil service rules. SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Civil service... MS. FRANKE: One Town Board member also told me that you have the rule of five. I think you ought to go on civil service website because when I FOIL'd to them the rules and procedures, it is the rule of three. Not five. It is three and it even is still three if you go by zones. SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Yes,three willing, in other words, we go to the top three. Some might decline the position which happens all the time. That would move us down on the civil service list. But understand, civil service requires that we consider the candidates on the list and we consider the candidates with regard to their test scores. It does not require that we interview. MS. FRANKE: So what is the purpose of taking the civil service test then and being on the list if you can jump around and pick and choose whoever you want? SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: There is a certain amount of discretion but by and large we are still encumbered by that list and following the test scores. But if you have 10 or 15 people all with the same test score, 10 or 15 people shall be considered but you have no obligation to interview. MS. FRANKE: How can you take someone that's 31 on the list and hire somebody that's 143 on the list? SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Well, they probably all got the same test score. The test score is what dictates the... MS. FRANKE: No, number 31 in Suffolk County and number 143 in Suffolk County and it's not the same test scores. Inaudible. SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: But they are eligible. The test scores are eligible. MS. FRANKE: Inaudible. September 9, 2014 Page35 Southold Town Board Meeting COUNCILMAN DINIZIO: No, no. I just said that that looked interesting to me. I wanted to try to figure out just how that happened. And so intend to do that Jill. SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: If you think we are not complying with civil service law, please bring it to the attention of civil service. They have to certify our payrolls and they take their rules and regulations very seriously, so please bring the complaint to them. MS. FRANKE: Inaudible. SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Okay. Okay. COUNCILMAN DINIZIO: And I will look into that one for you too, Jill. I said I would and I intend to. MS. FRANKE: I have more papers for you, too. COUNCILMAN DINIZIO: Okay, bring them on. Just understand that this is more for procedure than it is for anything else. As far as me personally am concerned. MS. FRANKE: Inaudible. COUNCILMAN DINIZIO: Well, again, I think that no one, even your placement on that list, as far as I can understand, doesn't guarantee you will get an offer of a job. It's not just that number on a list that says we are going to hire you. There is an interview involved, there's you know.... MS. FRANKE: Don't you have to take the first three people? Inaudible. SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: We have to take the highest test scores of people who are willing to accept the position. That is why we canvass to determine interest. MS. FRANKE: Inaudible. SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: If the person that was 90 was probably reachable based on the list and the willing people who were interested. They were reachable. Civil service.... MS. FRANKE: I was reachable. I was a 95... SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: And what I am saying is.... MS. FRANKE: I got a 90, 1 was number two on the town list and number 31 on the county list. SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Okay, that was... MS. FRANKE: She was seven on the town list and she was number 143 on the county list. September 9, 2014 Page36 Southold Town Board Meeting SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Okay, she was evidently reachable in the top three. You might have been number two but I assume that she was in a pool of people that qualified as number three. Civil service, again, civil service certifies our payroll. MS. FRANKE: She was number four. Actually they had like seven people who were number four. SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Okay but did we have one of the other top candidates decline? In other words, what we are getting now is we are getting into details with regard to specific personnel and this isn't a discussion that should be had in public. These people are entitled to work for this town and not be held under a microscope at these public meetings. MS. FRANKE: Inaudible. SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: If you have a complaint, bring it to civil service specifically. MS. FRANKE: First thing tomorrow. SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: George? George Aldcroft MR. ALDCROFT: Just want to mention, this Saturday from 9 to 12 (inaudible) if you want to come on down if you don't feel like cutting lawns for a change or if you want to meet some real nice kids from the ROTC from 9 till 12 this Saturday. SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Alright. Thank you. Would anybody else like to address the Town Board? Councilman Dinizio COUNCILMAN DINIZIO: I have something I want to say. October 1 we are going to start the deer management program again, Southold Town bow hunting and there are a couple of changes this year that I just want to get out. One is, there is 150 foot rule where it used to be 500. So you people that are near deer hunting locations and you will be able to go to the town website to find out where they are, you can expect to see, perceive that you see more hunters because there will be more hunters on this pieces of land because of the reduced size. We were going to be asked to consider whether or not veterans could, open it up to veterans, I don't know where we went with that. But I would certainly want to encourage that we allow any veterans, this is for Southold Town, will come hunt on our land. Every little bit will help. That is basically it. COUNCILMAN RULAND: Veterans from outside of town you mean. COUNCILMAN DINIZIO: Yes, Suffolk County veterans. We had a discussion today with Jeff about it and I think that he kind of thought that we would jump at it and we didn't, and so just wanted to know if we could somehow consider that. I certainly would go along with it. September 9, 2014 Page37 Southold Town Board Meeting COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: Yeah, I think we got off track and we never went back to that. COUNCILMAN DINIZIO: No. COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: I would agree that that's a good idea. COUNCILMAN DINIZIO: But make sure you go to the website, we are trying to make it clear. We are going to send out some letters just describing the program to the people that are affected, the properties that are closest to these sites. You can read the letter on line too and you can also see the maps where we will be hunting. That's all I have. Thank you. SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Sue? Susan Switzer MS. SWITZER: Susan Switzer, Peconic. Along that line on the deer situation, as well as educating the public to the town program and the changes because of the setbacks, I think it would be important to let people know if they have individual properties that now qualify for hunting to get a hunter in to be part of the solution to our deer problem, whereas before, with the 500 foot, you had to have like 18 acres, now you only need 1.6 and a lot of people don't realize what this means to them on private property and how they can be part of the solution instead of waiting for the town to do it on town lands. COUNCILMAN DINIZIO: In the meeting that the deer hunters had, that was discussed and what we thought was it would be a good idea to make these kind of announcements. People can understand that, the Suffolk Times will help cover that. Because there are three different programs, what I am learning. It is not just a deer hunting program, nuisance hunt and there's a little season going on there and the county has something so I think the people need to be educated because last year was...very successful last year. Extremely so even without the cull. SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I just want to clarify one thing. The new setback reduction, from 500 to 150, I believe the requirement under the hunting regulation is the land still needs to be 10 acres in size. MS. SWITZER: For shotgun. Not for bow as far as I understand. I am not quite sure of that. And I think that's where the confusion in the public's eye, so many people sit on two or three acres and they have never been able to get a hunter in, and they have deer trooping through their land, now they will be able to both during the deer season and perhaps during the nuisance hunting and I think that needs to be clarified for people. SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Very good. MS. SWITZER: Because many of us who aren't hunters think that only relates to hunters but it relates to us as the public if we want to be part of the solution. SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Good point. Anybody else? Linda? September 9, 2014 Page38 Southold Town Board Meeting Linda Goldsmith MS. GOLDSMITH: Again, I just want to reiterate regarding the people who rent their homes for a few days or more a week, I just want to caution you not to try to over-regulate. I know there's always a couple of people who spoil it for everyone else and I understand that and I think that you have (inaudible). However, sometimes I have left my house and let my friends stay there for three or four days. I don't ask them for money obviously but you know, I am going to be away this week, do you want to come out and stay at my house. You also get that too,people who are not necessarily renting their house but allowing (inaudible). I just want you not to over-regulate because sometimes it is really difficult to follow all the laws because every time you turn around there is one you didn't know about no matter how diligent you are. SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Yes, that's a fair point. We will take a look. If we thought it was an easy answer, we would have had legislation for noticing tonight for 30 days. It is going to be a tough balancing act. MS. GOLDSMITH: Talk about for as long as you did the noise ordinance. Susan Switzer MS. SWITZER: Can I just weigh in on that as well? I was thinking that we have noise ordinances, we have other rules that already apply to everybody, so maybe we just need to enforce those or maybe make them more specific as opposed to putting in a whole bunch of new regulations. COUNCILMAN DINIZIO: Well, let me tell you about that. We have a lot of regulations, one is that you can have an apartment at your place but you have to live there, you know, the owner has to live there. One is a bed and breakfast, the same thing. Those people can rent out their rooms but the owner has to live there and there is a reason for that. The reason is, it's a whole lot better neighborhood if you have got the neighbor having to put up with whatever he is putting in his house. And this is just one more piece of that pie. One more expansion of that in my opinion, unfairly gives competition to the bed and breakfast people who come in, you know, they get their permissions, they pay their fees and these people basically don't. But they are doing basically the same thing. MS. SWITZER: Okay. So take your time with it. COUNCILMAN DINIZIO: Yes. Supervisor Russell SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Would anybody else like to address the Town Board? (No response) September 9, 2014 Page39 Southold Town Board Meeting Motion To: Adjourn Town Board Meeting RESOLVED that this meeting of the Southold Town Board be and hereby is declared adjourned at 5:50 P.M. all Elizab A. Neville Southold Town Clerk RESULT: ADOPTED [UNANIMOUS] MOVER: Jill Doherty, Councilwoman SECONDER:James Dinizio Jr, Councilman AYES: Ghosio, Dinizio Jr, Ruland, Doherty, Evans, Russell