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MINUTES
BOARD OF SOUTHOLD TOWN TRUSTEES
Meeting of May 7~, 1973
A regular meeting of the Board of Southqld Town Trustees was~ held
Monday, May 7, 1973 at the Town Clerk's.Office, Main Road, Southold~
New York. The meeting was called to order at 8:15 P.M. with the
following present:
Atvah B. Goldsmith, Chairman
Douglas M. Robertson
Philip G. Hor%on
Rudolph Johnson
Frederick E. Gordon
Judith T. Boken, Secretary .
Mr. William Brady, President of the Laughing Waters Property Owner's
Association, Southold, appeared before the Board with another Association
member and Mr,. Patrick Carrig, to apprise the Board of their construction
of a bulkhead.. This bulkhead is 6 ft,. further back on the association
property at Corey Creek from where there ~ad been 15 boat stakes, and
the same number of boats will be moored at the bulkhead~ -- The Board
thanked Mr. Brady for keeping the Board informed, but advised him
that since this bulkhead is entirely on the Association property, and
although~the Board looks favorably ~n such~a project, it is outside
their jurisdiction.
Mr. Carrig asked the Board,s opinion on the extension of a bulkhead
on the property~of William Albinson, North Bayview Road, Southold.
He had previously~constructed a bulkhead entirely on Mr. Albinson's
property in 1971, and now wishes to extend it along the same line,
still entirely on his-own property. The Board advised Mr. Carr~g
that the proposed extension is outside the jurisdiction of the
Trustees and a permit is not required.
Mr. Carrig next~i'discussed the~a~plication~of~Robert~_Brown, Beachwood
Lane,~ Southold, for permission to construct a dock~a~of~oat in front
of his property on Goose Creek.
On motion of Mr. Robertson, seconded by Mr. Gordon, it was
RESOLVED that Robert Brown, Beachwood Lane, Lot 19, Map of South~ood,
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Southold, New York, be granted permission to place a 3 ft. by
15 ft. dock, 3 ft. by 10 ft. ramp, and 5 ft. by 16 ft. float
with two piles in front of his property on Goose Creek, all in
accordance with the detailed spedifications as presented in the
originating application. Fee $!7..5Q..~
vote of the Board: Ayes: Mr. Goldsmith, Mr. Robertson, Mr.
Horton, Mr. Johnson,.~M~ .Gordo~ - -~
Nancy Graham, Hickory Drive, Cutchogue, appeared before the Board
to present her application for permission to dredge the entrance
of the boat basin on her property. The mouth of the basin is now
closed at low tide, due to shoaling which resulted from clamming
along the edge of the mouth of the basin.
On motion of Mr. Horton, seconded by Mr. Johnson, it was
RESOLVED that~Nanc~ G~raham, Hickory Drive, Cutchogue~ New, York,
be~granted permission to dredge an 8 ft~ by t8-ft, area~ removing
50 cu. yds.. of fill from-the mouth of the boat. basin on her.
property off Broadwaters Cove, at Hickory Drive, Cutchogue~ all
in accordance with the d~tail~d~specifications as presented in
the originating application. Fee $5.00.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Mr. Goldsmith, Mr. ~obertson, Mr.
Horton, Mr. Johnson, Mr. Gordon~
Mr. James Knowles appeared before the Board t~ determi~ if a
permit would be necessary to repair his dock which was damaged
by ice. He was advised a permit would not be necessary as long
as. th~ ~dock.~s ~ lust repair and not enlarged.
The following applications ~.(Tejo, Edelmann, Lad~a, Crane, Maus,
Spets~otes, 'Raynor and Sanders) came before the Board on April
2nd~ ~The Board investigated the sitesand the following action
wastaken:
On motlon of Mr. Herren, seconded by Mr. Robertson, ~i~ was
RESOLVED that Carl~s Tejo, Maple Lane, Mattituck~, ~New York, be
granted permission to place an "L" shaped dock, 100 ft~ by 2. ft.
~5~ ~5.~y ~yf~.f~f ~h~mh is ~n his own property)and 15 ft. by
2 ft. from the edge of the upland on his property'off~MapTe
Avenue, to t~e Long Creek%branch o~Mat~itqck Creek, Mattituck,
NewYork, all in accordance with the detaiTed specific&~®~s as
presented in the originating~application. Fee'S13.00.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Mr. Goldsmith, Mr. Robertson, Mr.
Horton, Mr. Johnson, Mr. Gordon.
It was the determination of the Board that Mary Edelmann, Mattituck,
New York beck,quested to submit an~application for her dock, which
was constructed in 1915 and~.recently c~mpletely rebuilt. A $t.00
fee will be charged. · -~
On motion of Mr. Robertson, seconded by Mr. Johhson, it was
RESOLVED_that Ronald J. Lajda, 600..Ea~w00d Drive, Cutchogue, New
York,. be granted a temporary permit to place a second onshore-
offshore mooring in Richmond Creek, on the east side of Town
launching ramp.off Indian NecktLane, ~econic, New York, all in
accordance with the detailed specifications as presented in the
originating~application. Fee paid on Permit~No~ 775.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Mr. Goldsmith, Mr. Robertson, Mr.
Horton, Mr. Johnson, Mr. Gordon.
(Mr~ Lajda's permit is temporary.and may be~w~t~rawn at a
later date if the area becomes crowded, as the Board has only~
allowed an individual one mooring site at a public landing.)
On motion of,Mr. Horton, seconded by. Mr. _Gordon, it v~as
RESOLVED that Robert E. Crane, South Harbor Road, ~Southold, New
York, be granted permission to place an onshore-offshore mooring
at the foot of South Harbor Road in Richmond Creek, all in accord-
ance with the detailed specifications as presented, i~n tie ori~ginating
application. Fee $51000
Vote of the Board: Ayes: .Mr. Goldsmith, Mr% Robertson, Mr.
Horton, Mr. ~o~R~QnMr. Gordon.
On motion of Mr. Gordon, seconded by Mr. Johnson, it.was
RESOLVED that Robert Maus, Southold, New York, be granted
permission~to construct-~a dock 52 ft. by~4 ft., _ramp 8 ft..by
2 ft. 6 in., and float 12,ft. by l ft. with four pilings, in
front of his property on Cedar Beach Creek, Sandpiper Basin, off
Clear View Road (private), Southold, all in accordance with the
detailed specifications as~presen~ed in the originati~ application.
Fee.-~.~o{~.(Corrected to $21.80 - less 52x7 dock on ap~li, property).
Vote of-the Board: A~es: rMr.~3~eldsmitb,~Mr. Rohertson, Mrs.
Horton, Mr. ~Johnson, Mr.~-~Gordo. n~ -- ~ . .
On motion of Mr. Horton, seconded by Mr. Johnson, it~was
RESOLVED that the Board waive jurisdiction on the application of
Mr. & Mrs. A'. Spetsiotes, Budds Pond Road, Southold, New York, .for
permission to'construct a bulkhead to retain fill carted and placed
on the site in construction of a home. The bulkhead is entirely .on
the applicant's own property. Filing Fee: $5.00.
Vote of, the Board: Ayes: Mr. Goldsmith,~ Mr, Robertson, Mr. ~Horton,
Mr. Johnson, Mr. Gordon.
On motion o~ Mr. Robertson, seconded by Mn~ Hotbon~ it was
RESOLVED that How~ard W. Radnor, ~01 _A~t~ntic ~enue, Gree~port, New
York, be granted permission to placenan~nLsh0re~ffshore mooring
in Arshamomaque Pond, off Meadow Lane, Southold, ~New York, all in
accordance,-~ith the~detailed specifications as presented3in the
originatin~ application. Fee paid under Permit No. 792.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Mr. Goldsmith, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Horton,
Mr. Johnson, Mr. Gordon.
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On motion of Mr. Johnson, seconded by Mr. Horton, it was
RESOLVED that James E. Sanders, Matt~uck, Ne~ .York, be denied
permission to place an onshore~offshore"mooring ~t the' foot of
Bayview Avenue, Arshamomaque Pond~,~Southold, New York, as there
is not sufficient room at this lecation for'the mooring of another
boat. No fee charged.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Mr. Goldsmith, Mr. Rober~son, Mr. Horton,
Mr. Johnson, Mr. 'Gordon.
The following new applications were studied, discussed, and are
to be investigated by the Board anda decision m~e_ at the next
meeting:
Robert J. Melchione, 41 Spencer Way, Kings Park, New York, for
permission-to ~eplace existing 20 f.t. by 3 ft. dock with new
60 ft. by 2½ at. dock at his property on Go0seCreek, Oak Avenue.,
Southold, New York.
Alfred Melchione, 655 Hummel Avenue, Southo~d, NeWYork, for
permission to place a mushroom mooring and an Onsh6reeoffshore
mooring 'at his proPerty on:Goose Creek, Oak AvenUe/ Goose Bay
Estates, ~outhold, New Yor~. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ :' -
Norbert Rademacher, Oak Avenue, Southold, for~permission to
place two offshore mushroom moorings, ong offshore-sta~e, ~an~d
one onshore-offs~ore'mo0ring at his-'property on Gosse Creek,
Oak Avenue, Goose Bay Estates, $outhold, 'New'~York.
Dorothy~Bridq. e, for permissionto place an onshore-offshore
mooring at foot of Minnehaha Boulevard, Laughing Water, Southold.
Harold'G. ~Baldwin, Bay"Avenue, Mattituck~ ~for permission to
dredqe an area 50 ft. by 40 ft., removing~900.cu, yds,. of
material from under and around his floating dock in James Creek,
off Bay Avenue, Mattituck, New York.
Joseph P. ~Ulrich, Main Road~ Southold, New York, for permiss~ion
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to place fo r shaped floating docks in Jockey Creek of.f
Main. Road (Rou;te 25), Southold, New York.
The following new applications ~ere studied, discussed, and
approved:
On motion of Mr. Johnson, seconded by Mr. Robertson, it was
RE~OLVED that Thomas B. Reeve, 2~5 .Maiden Lane, Mattituck,~
granted permission'~to extend his existing dock 50 ft. by 2 ft.
so that it will reach high water in Mattituck Creek, off Maiden
Lane, Mat%ituck, all in accordance ~ith the detaile'd specif'ications
as presented in the originating applica.tion. Fee $10.00.
(Totals'length of the ~ock will be 76'~ft. - origina~ Permit No.~43).
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Mr. Goldsmith, Mr. Robertson, Mr.
Hc~on, Mr. Johnson, Mr. Gordon.
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on motion of Mr. Horton, seconded by Mr. ~Gordon,. it was
RESOLVED that Myron J. Peabody, South Harbor Road, Southold, be
g~anted permission to place an onshore stake in Richmond Creek, at
the foot of South Harbor Road, Southold, New York, ~alt in accord-
ance with the detailed specifications as pr.eseqt~ in the originating
application._ -Fee $5~00~-~ :_ ~ .... ~ - ~ ....... - -~
Vote~of the~Board~ ~Ayes: ~Mr. GOldsmith,.M~Robe~tso~, Mr~.~orton,
Mr. Johnson, Mr. Gordon ...... 3 ~ ~ ~ ....................
0n-motion of-Mr.~Robe~tson,~:seconded~by Mr. Joh~son~_i~was
RESOLVED that Roll Johnson, Hortons Lane, ~Sout~old~ New York, be
granted permission to place an offshore mooring in Town Creek, off
of Youngs Avenue, So~thold, New York, all in accordance with the
detailed specifications as presented in the originating application.
~eee$6f0~e
Vote~of the Board:__A~es:-Mr~Goldsmith;.Mr. RQ~e~Q~, Mr. Horton,
Mr. Johnson, Mr. Gordon
On motion of Mr. G~rdon, seconded by Mr. Hor~on, it was
RESOLVED that Christine A. Wissemann, Wells Avenue, Southold, be
granted permission to place an offshore mooring in Jockey Creek,
in front of her..property on_Wells Avenue, Southold, New York, all
in accordance~with the~detailed specifications a~.presentsd in the
originating application. Fee.-$5.00.
Vote. of-the.Board: .Ayes: Mr. Goldsmith, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Horton,
Mr. Johnson, Mr. Gordon ....
On motion of Mr. Johnson, seconded by Mr~ Gordon,.it was
RESOLVED that Robert G. Melrose, 39 Robinson Road,. GreCnpor~;,
York, be granted permission to place two individual pilings, and
a 20 ft. by-5 ft. float with two pilings in¢front, o~f his property
on Sterling .Creek, off.Robinson Roa~., .Greenport, ~New-York,~ all.iD
accordance:with the~detai'led-specif&~a~ions as-presented in~.~he-
originating application~ ,.Fee $t4.00~ . ,. - -
Vote Of~:the-Board;:~ Ay.es:_ Mr. Goldsmith, Mr._Robertson, Mr. Horton,
Mr. Johnson, Mr.:Gordon._. - _~ --: ~_ :~.- . --
On motion of Mr. Robertson, seconded by Mr. Horton, it w~s
RESOLVED that James F. Bahr, Jr., 3.14 Champlin Place, Greenport, be
granted~perm~ssion to use onshore~offshore-~w~ moorin~ No.~ 12
at Sterling Creek, Greenport,
detailed_specifica~ons-:as presented im-.the originating application.
Fee $5~00~ . ~ r- ~
Voteio.f~:the Board: Ayes: Mr. Goldsmith, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Horton,
Mr. Johnson, ~r.3~Gordon&. ~-~ _ . : 'n' . ~n ~ .......... -
On motion of Mr. Horton, seconded by Mr. Joh~son,_~t was
RESOLVED that Wilfred W. Ireland, 541 Main Street, Greenport, be
granted permission to use onshore-offshore Town mooring No. 8 at
Sterling Creek, Greenport, New York, all in accordance with the
detailed specifications as presented in the originating application.
Fee $5.00.
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Vote of the-~Boa~d: ~yes; ~Mr. Goldsmith, Mr.~-Robertson,~Mr~ Hor~ton,
Mr. Johnson,
On.~motion of Mr. JohnsoS, seconded by'Mr. Gordon~ it wag
RESOLVED that Joseph~'D~~ Verity, ~3~'Sound~Road, '~reenport~~ 'be
granted permission to use onshore-offshore Town Mooring NO~ 3
at Sterling Creek, Greenport;,~-New-Yo~, all-.in accordance with
the detailed specifications as presented in the originating
application. Fee $5.00.
Vote of the Board:~ ,Ayes: Mr.~ Goldsmith, Mr~-,~.R~be~son, Mr. Horton,
Mr. Johnson, Mr; Gordon. .. - .
On motion of Mr~ Gordon, seconded by'Mr. Robertson,~ it was "
RESOLVED that Harry Sinuta, North-.Road, Greenport; New York, be~
granted permzsszon to use onshore-offshore Town Mooring-No. ~2. at
Sterlihg Creek,'~'Greenport, a~l zn accordance~with the detailed
specifications as presented in the originating application.
Fee $5.00.
Vote of the'~Board: 'Ayes: Mr% GoTdsm~th, Mr~'.~obertson, Mr. Horton,
M~i Johnson, Mr~ Gordon~ .-.~.~ ~ . .....
On-motion of Mr. Robertson,- seconded-by Mr.'Horton, it was
RESOLVED' that'.JoShua Moore,~608'-Carpenter~Street,'GreenpOrt,-be
granted permission to use onshore-offshore Town Mooring-$1i at
Ste.rlihg Cre~k,-Greenport~ New York, sll~in-accordande with-the
detailed specifications as presented in the originating applica-
tion. Fee $5.00.
Vote of the Board':' Ayes:-.~ Mr~. Goldsmith, Mr...Robertson, .Mr. Ho~ton,
Mr. Johnson~Mr.'Go~don.
On mot'ion of Mr. Horton; seconded by Mr;~. Johnson,~-it.~was
RESOLVED that Stanley ~. S~ejka, 965 Youn.gs Avenue, Mattituck,
be granted permission to place-an-onshore-offshore-mooring in
Mattituck Creek off Route 27A, east or'Westphalia Road~ Mattituck,
New'"YorR, all in accordance'with~'~he'detailed specifications as
presented in the originating application. Fee $5.00;
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Mr. GoLdsmith, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Horton,
Mr. Johnson:, MrJ G'ordon.
On motion of Mr. Gordon, s~cond.ed,~by~r.,Robertsop,.~it was
RESOLVED that Al'fred R.'NorkTuh, 465 ~i&*lag~-~Lane',:.Orient, be-
granted permission %o place a~-on's~ore-offshore"mooring in Orien~
Creek, off the property of John B. Tuthill (with his per~ission~
Orient',. New-York, .all-in accordance wzth~ the de~aiied specifications
as presented in the orzginating application. Fee $5.00~ .
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Mr. Goldsmith, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Horton,
Mr. Johnson~, Mr. Gord~n-~ .
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On motion of Mr. Robertson~, seconded by Mr. Hor~on, it was
RESOLVED that Harold Thilberg, 615 Bailey Avenuer Greenport~be
granted permission to place ~an onshore-offshore mooring in. Narrow
Riv~r~.of~ NarrQw~River Road, Orient, New York, all in accordance
with the detailed specifications as presented in the originating
application. ~ee $5.00.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Mrs. Goldsmith, M~r.--Robertson, Mr~ Horton,
Mr. Johnson, Mr. Gordon. ~ ~ ~ .~
The-Board.reviewed the application of Rober~W. Foster~ ~315 South
~Street, Greenpor%, for two moorings. Qne moor~ng~.in Sterling
Creek, Greenport, is within the boundaries of the~ncorporate~
Villag9 of Greenport, and a/permit should be.~ob~ained from~th~
Village rather than the Southold Town Trustees. The second mooring
is for the end of Bayview Avenue north of Colony Road, Southold.
All the mooring area is occupied a~ ~hat ~ite, and it was indicated
the Board would look favorably on a mooring site at the end of
Bayview Avenue south of Colony Road.
At 9:45 P.M. the Board met with Richard Lark, Esq., attorney for
Thomas Samuels, President of James H. Rambo, Inc., Wunneweta Road,
Nassau Point, Cutchogue, and with Charles Guioz, Mr. Samuels' partner.
Mr. Lark explained that Mr. Samuels had been ordered by s representative
of the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation to
stop work on s walkway, ramp and floating dock for Mr. Julius Juttner,
on Mattituck Creek (Town Trustees Permit No. 772), under threat of
criminal legal action, as a permit for the project must be secured
from the State.
Mr. L~rk was advised by the Board that:
(1) The authority of t~e Board of Southold Town Trustees
stems from the Andros Patent granted to the Town of Southold in
1676; confirmed in the New York State Constitution when originally
adopted; organized and established in its present form by act of
Legislature in 1893; and re-affirmed by act of Legislature as late
as 1952.
(2) The validity of the permit issued is as complete at
present as it has been in the more than 770 permits previously
issued by this Board under which work has been accompl~dover
this long span of years without contest.
(3) The authority granted to this Board has never been
terminated or abrogated within any recent scope of our knowledge.
(4) Although the permit h~as been issued to Mr. Juttner, we
intend that it extend to any contractor employed by Mr. Juttner
acting as his agent ~n carrying out the specifics of the permit.
After lengthy discussion relative to Town, State and Federal
authority, the Board assured Mr. Lark that they would speak to
the Town Board immediately regarding the situation, and attempt
to set up a meeting with John J. Spagnoli, Local Permit Agent
for the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation.
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On motiOn.~of Mr.~'H~rton~-seconded~-b~5Mr.'-Johns~, it was
RESOLVED~th~_~the~Bo~rd ~f;~So~t~otd ~f~h~T~us%ees£mih~s~-
AprilC2'~1973~b~appro~ed a~sabmitt~d~-
o~"motion Of'Mri~Gord6n, secohded by Mr. RobertSon~it'-~was
RESOLVED that the next meeting of the Board~ef Southold Town
Trustees will be held 7:30 P.M., Monday, June 4, 1973 at the
Town Clerk'S. Of.fice,.~ Main ~oad, ~S0ut~ld~New~Yor~ii [The-~ocation
subsequ~ntiy chang~d~O the Office~ the-Supervisor, 16 South Street,
Vot~-~f~.th8 B~rd%C'~A~es-:~ Mt9 ~6td~mith,~r-~Rdbe~%son,~Mr~ Ho~ton,