HomeMy WebLinkAboutLaughing Waters Property Owners Assoc (2) Albert J. Krupski, President • Q$OFF��/{'C Town Hall
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Artie Foster COD Southold, New York 11971
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BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
TO: 1,AIItSH/A)S- W/7 r-".T APoP. AW10eodS. 19SSor,
Please be advised that your application, dated
has been reviewed by this Board, at the regular meeting of
and the following action was taken:
L) Application Approved (see below)
( ) Application Denied (see below)
( ) Application Tabled (see below)
If your application is approved as noted above, a permit fee is
now due. Make check or money order payable to the Southold Town
Trustees . The fee is computed below according to the schedule
of rates as set forth in the instruction sheet.
The following fee must be paid within 90 days or re-application
fees will be necessary.
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PRESIDENT, BOARD OF TRUSTEES
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CLERK, B OF TRUSTEES
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Albert J. Krupski, President �QgUFFO(�-CO • Town Hall
James King,Vice-President �O (d 53095 Main Road
Henry Smith y� P.O.Box 1179
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Artie Foster ti Z
Ken Poliwoda 5 Telephone(516) 765-1892
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1BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
October 28, 1999
Mr. Victor Beck
Laughing Waters Property Owners Assoc.
P.O. 20
Southold NY 11971
RE: LAUGHING WATERS PROP. OWN. ASSOC.
SCTM #87-3-2 . 1 & 60
Dear Mr. Beck,
The following action was taken by the Southold Town Board of
Trustees at their Regular Meeting on October 27 , 1999 :
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Board of Trustees grant an
Amendment to Permit #4933 to reflect a reduced dredge area and a
more current sounding as required by the NYSDEC. The current
figures to be: 186 c .y. @$10 c .y. = $1,860 .
However, this determination is not a determination from any
other agency.
If you have any questions, please call our office at 765-1892 .
Sincerely,
�G�Ltc.�'vrcc �y
Albert J. rupski, Jr.
President, Board of Trustees
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James King,Vice-President c < P.O.Box 1179
Henry Smith rn Southold,New York 11971
Artie Foster O
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Ken Poliwoda �IJ�l �.DO Fax(516) 765-1623
BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
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Under the Environmental
Conservation Law April 14, 2002
TYPE OF PERMIT ■ New ❑ Renewal ❑ Modification ❑ Permit to Construct ❑ Permit to Operate
■ Article 15, Title 5: Protection ■ 6NYCRR 608: Water Quality ❑ Article 27, Title 7; 6N"CRR
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PERMIT ISSUED TO TELEPHONE NUMBER
Laughing Waters Property Owners Association (516) 765-4319
ADDRESS OF PERMITTEE
1175 Hiawathas Path Southold, New York 11971
CONTACT PERSON FOR PERMITTED WORK TELEPHONE NUMBER
Robert Herrmann EnConsultants, Inc. 1329 North Sea Road Southampton NY 11968 (516) 283-6360
NAME AND ADDRESS OF PROJECT/FACILITY
Laughing Waters Property Owners Association property, North 6 South Marinas
LOCATION OF PROJECT/FACILITY
Minnehaha Boulevard Southold NY 11971
COUNTY TOWN WATERCOURSE NYTM COORDINATES
Suffolk Southold Corey Creek
DESCRIPTION OE AUTHORIZED ACTIVITY:
South Marina - Dredge marina to a maximum depth of 4 ft. below mean low water. A portion of the resultant 1800 cubic
yards of dredged material will be placed upland in the parking area and confined with haybaLes for dewatering purpmes.
Any excess spoil will be trucked to an appropriate upland site. Once dewatered, the dredged material will be utilised as
beach nourishment for the community beach.
North Marina - Dredge marina to a maximum depth of 4 ft. below mean Low water. Resultant 1950 cubic yards of dredgeed
material will be placed upland, landward of the bulkhead, and confined with haybales for dewatering purposes. Once
dewatered, spoil will be trucked to an appropriate upland site.
By acceptance of this permit, the permittee agrees that the permit is contingent upon strict compliance with -he
ECL, all applicable regulations, the General Conditions specified (see page 2 8 3) and any Special Conditions includes as
part of this permit.
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Division of Legal Affairs, Region One
Building 40 - SUNY, Stony Brook, New York 11790-2356 v
Phone: (516) 444-0260 FAX: (516) 444-0348 _
John P. Cahill
Commissioner
NOTICE
As required by law, the Department of Environmental Conservation is hereby providing you with
notice of an alleged violation of the Environmental Conservation Law which occurred within
your municipality.
THIS NOTICE DOES NOT REQUIRE ANY RESPONSE OR ACTION BY YOU.
Please be advised that the Department has sufficient evidence to commence an enforcement
action against Laughing Waters Property Owners Association for violations of Article 25 of the
New York State Environmental Conservation Law, having reference to Tidal Wetlands, for
violations occurring at Minnehaha Blvd., Southold, NY.
NOTICE PROVIDED TO:
Name: The Honorable Robert J. Gaffney -A 3
Suffolk County Executive y- 3—Y QC^
H. Lee Dennison Building y �y /L� 41a�,4-
Veterans Memorial Highway �- •/,�_ �„'�„`
Hauppauge, NY 11788 �
Name: The Honorable Jean W. Cochran �y,� f✓
Supervisor, Town of Southold
Town Hall, PO Box 1179 M t
Southold, NY 11971
NOTICE PROVIDED BY: .
Name: Craig Elgut
Title: Assistant Regional Attorney
Date: April 16, 1999 _.'";
SJPERV' ;ORS OFFICE
TOWNCf SOUIHOLD
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SEP - 9 1998 (P i
LAUGHING WATER PROPERTY OWNER'S ASSOCIATI N ( OA
P.O. BOX 20, SOUTHOLD, NY 119n- TOWN OF
September 5, 1998
Board of Trustees
Southold Town Hall
Main Road
Southold, NY 11971
Dear Board,
The marinas located in Laughing Water are a major asset to the community as well as the Town of
Southold. Boating access to Peconic Bay is a significant factor in the quality of life as well as
property values and their loss would have a significant negative impact. The dredging project is
simply to maintain this asset.
LWPOA is a non profit organization operating on a small margin, usually enough to cover
expenses plus a prudent reserve. The dredging project contemplated will require major funding
from a loan institution and payments for years to come. A number of our members are elderly,
living on fixed retirement incomes and we knew it would be a major undertaking putting us in debt,
however we feel that not to attempt this project is an unacceptable alternative. Unfortunately the
additional fee of $12,650 you have imposed on the project has given us a shock and we may have
to reconsider the project.
It is noted that the fee imposed is done so because we could not prove the bottom land adjacent to
the South Marina is LWPOA property,therefore it was assumed to be Town property. In a
subsequent review of historical documents,to wit: a survey dated June 30, 1938 by D.R. Young,
P.E. & L.S., Riverhead,NY, the area we are proposing to be dredged is called "NEW
CHANNEL"part of the same 'NEW CHANNEL"that was cut out of LWPOA property adjacent
to our North Marina. hi fact,the island that is clearly deeded to LWPOA adjacent to the South
Marina,was created by the spoils when the 'NEW CHANNEL"was dug adjacent the Muskaday
Bridge Area. It appears that to deed the spoils from this channel but not the channel is an oversight
and the bottom should have been deeded to LWPOA.
In summary,to levy what appears to be an exorbitant, and somewhat arbitrary, fee on a project to
maintain a community asset, is punitive and contrary to the best interests of the Town of Southold
and LWPOA alike. It is therefore requested that the fee of$12,650 listed in your Application
Approval letter dated June 24, 1998 be rescinded.
Sincerely,
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Eileen Castro, President
JUL 20 D
LAUGHING WATER PROPERTY OWNER'S ASSOCIATION SQUrHpLD
P.O. BOX 20, SOUTHOLB, NV 11971
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July 17, 1998
Board of Trustees
Southold Town Hall
Main Road,
Southold NY 11971
Dear Board,
As you know,we are in the process of applying for permits to perform maintenance dredging in our two
marinas. We have received your notice of approval and your request for the$12,650 for permit fee. As
we have not yet received approval from the DEC,we would like to ask for an extension until we know for
sure that we will be progressing with this project.
Please call Vic Beck at 765-9345 and advise us if this is permissible.
Sincerely,
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Eileen Castro,President
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Board Of Southold Town Trustees
SOUTHOLD, NEW YORK �
PERMIT NO. t 33 DATE: ...June_25,. 1998
ISSUED TO Laughing,Waters_Property Owners Ass.ocation
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Pursuant to the provisions of Chapter 615 of the Laws of i
} the State of New York, 1893; and Chapter 404 of the Laws of the ht
State of New York 1952; and the Southold Town Ordinance en-
titled "REGULATING AND THE PLACING OF OBSTRUCTIONS „.
IN AND ON TOWN WATERS AND PUBLIC LANDS and the f
REMOVAL OF SAND, GRAVEL OR OTHER MATERIALS FROM
LANDS UNDER TOWN WATERS;". and in accordance with the
Resolution of The Board adopted at a meeting held on .Tune..24,...
} " 19 98_, and in consideration of the sum of $_1,41.5..00 paid by
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Terms and Conditions listed on the reverse side hereof,
of Southold Town Trustees authorizes and permits the following:
to maintenance dredge two irregularly shaped areas used for
marina to max. depth of -4' at MLW. Approx. 2150 c.y. of
sand/silt spoil will be dewatered on the land adjacent to the nor h
marina & then brought to an approved upland site. approx. 1800
c.yall in accordance with the detailed specifications as presented in = `
the originating application. of sand/silt spoil will be from town
owned land and will be a charge of $10. a c.y. unless ownershi
is proven IN WITNESS WHEREOF, The said Board of Trustees here-
by causes its Corporate Seal to be affixed, and these presents to a'
be subscribed by a majority of the said Board as of this date.
different. les will be placed at south spoil area & north ar
, dredging. o,. g�fFOC,{- during g' g• /--yk._c'2A./.N7En/,4A/cr-
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James King,Vice-President �� 53095 Main Road
Henry Smith p P.O.Box 1179
Artie Foster coSouthold,New York 11971
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Ken Poliwoda O Telephone(516) 765-1892
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BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
June 25, 1998
En-Consultants
1329 North Sea Road
Southampton, NY 11968
Re: Laughing Waters Property Owners Assoc.
SCTM #87-3-2 . 1 & 60
Dear Mr-. Herman:
The following action was taken by the Board of Town Trustees
during its regular meeting held on June 24 , 1998 regarding the
above matter:
WHEREAS, En-Consultants on behalf of LAUGHING WATERS PROPERTY
OWNERS ASSOCIATION applied to the Southold Town Trustees for a
permit under the provisions of the Wetland Ordinance of the Town
of Southold, application dated May 28, 1998, and,
WHEREAS, said application was referred to the Southold Town
Conservation Advisory Council for their findings and
recommendations, and
WHEREAS, a Public Hearing was held by the Town Trustees with
respect to said application on June 24, 1998, at which time all
interested persons were given an opportunity to be heard, and,
WHEREAS, the, Board members have personally viewed and are
familiar with the premises in question and the surrounding area,
and,
WHEREAS, the Board has considered all the testimony and
documentation submitted concerning this application, and,
WHEREAS, the structure complies with the standard set forth in
Chapter 37-18 of the Southold Town Code,
WHEREAS, the Board has determined that the project as proposed
will not affect the health, safety and general welfare of the
people of the town,
NOW THEREFORE BE IT,
RESOLVED, that the Board of Trustees grant a Wetland Permit to
maintenance dredge two irregularly shaped areas used for marina
to max. depth of -4 ' at MLW. Approx. 2150 c.y. of sand/silt
spoil will be dewatered on the land adjacent to the north marina
and then brought to an approved upland site. Approx. 1800 c.y.
of sand/silt spoil will be deposited on land south of the south
channel . 1265 c.y. of spoil will be from Town owned land and
will be a charge of $10 a c.y. unless ownership is proven to be
different. Haybales will be placed at south spoil area and north
area during dredging, and a ten year maintenance to run with DEC, and,
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that this determination should not be
considered a determination made for any other Department or
Agency which may also have an application pending for the same
or similar project.
Permit to construct project will expire two years from the date
it is signed. Fees must be paid, if applicable, and permit
issued within six months of the date of this notification.
Two inspections are required and the Trustees are to be notified
upon completion of said project.
FEES: 12, 650 . 00
Very truly yours,
Albert J. Krupski, Jr.
President, Board of Trustees
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Town Hall. 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 1179
Telephone O(516) 765-1801 Southold. New York 11971
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SOUTHOLD TOWN d a
CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL D
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The following recommendation was made at a meeting of the Southold Town
Conservation Advisory Council held June 22, 1998:
No. 1572 (Tabled 5/21/98)
Moved by Melvyn Morris, seconded by Kenneth Meskill, it was
RESOLVED to TABLE the Wetland Permit Application of LAUGHING WATERS
PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION 87-3-2.1 & 60 to dredge two irregularly
shaped areas used for marina to maximum depth of -4' at MHW; approximately
3950 c.y. of sand/silt spoil to be deposited on two spoil sites.
Minnehaha Blvd., Southold
The Council tabled the project because it was unable to make an inspection
based upon the plans received June 22, 1998.
Vote of Council: Ayes: All
Motion Carried
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M I N U T E S
BOARD OF SOUTHOLD TOTtV TRUSTEES
Meeting of May 7 , 1973
A regular meeting of the Board of Southold Town Trustees was held
Monday, May 7 , 1973 at the Town Clerk ' s Office, Main Road, Southold,
New York. The meeting was called to order at 8 :15 P.M. with the
following present :
Alvah B. Goldsmith, Chairman
Douglas M. Robertson
Philip G. Horton
\ Rudolph Johnson
Frederick E. Gordon
Judith T. Boken, Secretary
Mr. William Brady, President of th
thold, appeared be the Board with ano er Associ ion
member and Mr. Patrick Carrig, to apprise the Board of their construction
of a bulkhead. This bulkhead is 6 ft. further back on the Association
property at Corey Creek from where there had been 15 boat stakes, and
the same number of boats will be moored at the bulkhead. -- The Board
thanked Mr. Brady for keeping the Board informed, but advised him
that since this bulkhead is entirely on the Association property, and
although the Board looks favorably on such a project, it is outside
their jurisdiction.
Mr. Carrig asked the Boardjs opinion on the extension of a bulkhead
on the property of William Albinson, North Bayview Road, Southold.
He had previously constructed a bulkhead entirely on Mr. Albinson ' s
property in 1971, and now wishes to extend it along the same line,
still entirely on his own property. The Board advised Mr. Carrig
that the proposed extension is outside the jurisdiction of the
Trustees and a permit is not required.
Mr. Carrig next discussed the application of Robert Brown, Beachwood
Lane, Southold, for permission to construct a dock, andcftoat in front
of his property on Goose Creek.
On motion of Mr. Robertson, seconded by Mr. Gordon, it was
RESOLVED that Robert Brown, Beachwood Lane, Lot 19, Map of Southwood,
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Made the Nineteenth day of July Nineteen, Hicndred and,
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CEDRIC 11, WICKHAM of Mattituck, Town of Southold,
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Laughing Waters Property Owners Association, of Southold, Town of Southold,
County of Suffolk, State of New York
���p AA `parties of the second part,
�1;9itD tco-Ift1f. 0that the party of Glw first part, in considcration of
one and 00/100 and other valuable considerations Dollar
(01 .00 It lawful money of the United States,
/PV1 paid. by the part ies of the second part,
�w'I does hereby grant and release t<.nto the parties of the second part.,
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their heirs and forever, allthat land for the use of the Property
owners situated at Laughing Water, near Southold, in Southold Town, Suffolk County,
New York, bounded and described as follows:
Meadow land and uplands starting pit a point and place of beginning found by the
yG intersection (a corner) of the Northerly line of Nokomis Road and the Easterly lin% of
Minnehaha Boulevard, thence Easterly by and along property 0of John Tenet/ 36.0 -
et to the property of the Catholic Cemetery, thence South 6 281 East 136- feet to
point, thence South 88091 Fast 1 55.3 feet to a point, thence along a line a 900to the
last mentioned course 140- feet to the center line of original gutter which is the
Northerly boundary of Laughing Water property, thence along the center line of same to
the Waters of C reek thence along Corey Creek to the new channel thonce along
is Boulevard, thence by w l a ong theEasterly line of MIRRYPTIPTIFOculevard to
the point and place of beginning.
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LaughinR Waters Pronerty Ownc•r s Associn.tion, of Southold, Town of Southold,
County of Suffolk, State of New York
parties of the second part,
rt�r ,that the part v of the first part, in. consideration of
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(01 .00 ) lawful money of the' United, States,
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their heirs and assigns forever, all thnt lynd for Cho use of the Pronerty
owners situated at. Lnurhinm Water, nenr Southold, in �outhold 'Town, Suffolk Count.v
New York, hounded and described as follows:
Meadow land and fill. malcinr, an islnml located in the main kniurhinrr Water Creek and
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Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 1179
Telephone Southold, New York 11971
(516) 765-1801101
SOUTHOLD TOWN
CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL
The following recommendation was made at the meeting of the Southold Town
Conservation Advisory Council held May 21, 1998:
No. 1572
Moved by Scott Hilary, seconded by Sharon Shine, it was
RESOLVED to TABLE the Wetland Permit application of LAUGHING WATERS
PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION 87-3-2.1 E 60 to dredge to irregularly
shaped areas used for marina to maximum depth of -4' MHW; approximately
3950 c.y. of sand/silt spoil to be deposited on two spoil sites.
Minnehaha Blvd., Southold
The CAC tabled the application because no plans were submitted.
Vote of Council: Ayes: All
Motion Carried
Ij MAY 2 a 1998 �`��f 1329 North Sea Road
M I '.50 thampton, New York 11968
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ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES
May 26, 1998
Town of Southold
Board of Trustees
Post Office Box 1179
Southold,New York 11971
Attn.: Diane Herbert
Re: Laughing Waters Property Owns Association
Minnehaha Boulevard, Southold
SCTM#1000-83-3-2.1 & 60
Dear Ms. Hebert:
In regard to the above referenced property, enclosed are the following for the Board of Trustees review:
1. One(1)set of site photographs.
2. Three(3)Wetland Permit Applications,
3. Three(3) Short Environmental Assessment Forms.
4. Three(3)copies of authorization&disclosure forms.
5. Three(3)work plans.
6. Three(3)copies of survey.
7. Application fee of$150.00.
I trust this information shall allow you to process our request for a Wetlands Permit. Should any
additional information be required,please do not hesitate to contact our office.
Sincerely,
Robert E. Herrmann
Coastal Management Specialist
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Albert J. Krupski, President ��� �y 53095 Main Road
James King,Vice-President P.O.Box 1179
Henry Smith y Z Southold, New York 11971
Artie Foster _
Ken Poliwoda Telephone(516) 765.19%
Fax(516) 765-1823
BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
BOARD OF TRUSTEES: TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
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In the Matter of the Application
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STATE OF NEW YORK)
AFFIDAVIT OF POSTING
EN-CONSULTANTS INC.
I, 160f2T �04_4_j 1, residing at 1329 NORTH SEA RB
SOUTHAMPTON, N.Y. 11968
being duly sworn, depose and say:
That on the day of 1 �+`� 199 , I personally posted the
property known as SCrx4 W Ioo -�7 - 3 - I
by placing the Board of Trustees official poster where it can
easily be seen, and that I have checked to be sure the poster
has remained in place for seven days prior to the date of the ��
public hearing. (date of hearing noted thereon to be held M) CO /¢N-
oAJ oot A,iaUlf 7:00 e.,k,
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- June 10, 1998
George E.Pataki
Governor
Alexander F.Treadwell
Secretary of State
Albert J. Krupski, Jr.
Trustee, Town of Southold
53095 Main Street
P.O. Box 1179
Southold, NY 11971
Re: F-98-312
U.S. Army Cc s of Engineers/New York District Permit
Application -
Dear Mr. Krupski:
Enclosed is a copy of the information submitted to the Department of State for review of the above-referenced
project with respect to its consistency with the Coastal Management Program for your information and
preliminary review. Please contact Walter F. Meyer, the DOS reviewer assigned to this project, at (518)
474-6000 to discuss your concerns, and any additional information which may be necessary to assist you in
reviewing this project. Any comments you may have will assist the Department in reaching a decision as to
the consistency of the proposed action with the approved NYS Coastal Management Program.
We would appreciate hearing from you on this proposed project by July 10, 1998. If we do not hear from
you by that date, we will presume that you have no objections to the proposed project.
Sincere RwA/
William F. Barton "
Chief, Consistency Review and Analysis
Enclosures
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NYS DEPARTMENT o£STATE
Division of Coastal Resources and Waterfront Revitalization
Albany,NY 12231-0001
Voice:(518)474-6000 F=(518)473-2464
PROJECT DESCRIPTION
LAUGHING WATERS PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION
SCTM#1000-87-3-2.1&60
MINNEHAHA BOULEVARD
SOUTHOLD,NEW YORK
Dredge two (2) irregularly shaped areas used for marina to maximum depth of-4' MHW.
Approximately 3,950 cubic yards of sand/silt spoil to be deposited on two(2)spoil sites as
indicated on plans prepared by Anthony Lewandowski, dated March 24, 1998.
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ADDENDUM TO FCAF: LAUGHING WATERS PROPERTY OWNERS
ASSOCIATION
1h)Because the proposed maintenance dredging will be conducted in coastal waters, the
project must be consistent with Policies 15 and 35. With regard to Policy 15, the project
should not affect the supply of beach materials to, or cause the erosion of, adjacent
downdrift lands, because the two areas to be dredged have been used historically as marina
basins. Thus, the impact of the project will be only to maintain the navigational water
depths associated with that existing use. With regard to Policy 35, the effects of turbidity
from dredging the sand and silt will be localized in the marina basin and, aided by the
presence of the adjacent intertidal marsh vegetation, ephemeral in nature. Therefore, there
will be no adverse effects on adjacent fish habitat. Finally, Article 15 and 25 permits will
be secured from the NYSDEC to ensure that the project will meet State dredging permit
requirements. Thus,the proposed project will be consistent with Policies 15 and 35.
2a)Because the project will occur within and adjacent to NYSDEC classified littoral zone
and intertidal wetland areas, the project must be consistent with Policy 44. The proposed
project will be consistent with this policy because it will not affect benefits derived from
tidal wetlands, and will require a Tidal Wetlands Act permit from the NYSDEC.
2c) As the marina basins are adjacent to the State designated significant fish and wildlife
habitat of Corey Creek, the project must be consistent with Policy 7. Although the
dredging activities will temporarily disturb the substrate by physically removing naturally
accreted sand and silt, the surrounding habitat will not be"significantly impaired" as
defined by Policy 7.
3a)Because the proposed activity will occur at a waterfront site, it must be consistent with
Policies 2, 21, and 22. The proposed dredging is consistent with Policy 21 and in fact
promotes the goals of the policy in that it will allow the continued use of the marina basins
for boating activities by maintaining navigational access to Corey Creek and Hog Neck
Bay. Policies 2 and 22 do not apply to the current project.
Albert J. Krupski. President 'ONOSu COG Town Hall
53095 Main Road
John Holzapfel, Vice President ''�� yea
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Martin H. Garrcll O 7 Southold. New York 11971
Peter Wenczel Telephone (516) 765-1892
Fax (516) 765-1823
BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
Office Use Onl D 6 0
Coastal Erosion Permit Applicatio
�retland Permit Application MAY 2 8 �In!�
Grandfather Permit Application M` �+
_Waiver/Amendment/Changes p
ceived Application: T��l�� �.;;---
Received Fee:$
cmpleted Application
Incomplete
SEQRA Classification:
Type I Type II Unlisted
Coordination: (dategent) Q
vCAC Referral Sent:
Date of Inspection: —1
Receipt of CAC Report: MAY 2 $
Lead Agency Determination:
Technical Review:
Public Hearing Held��
Resolution:
Name of Applicant Laughing Waters Property Owners Association
1175 Hiawathas Path
Address Southold, New York 11971
Phone Number: ( 516 ) 765-4319
Suffolk County Tax Map Number: 1000 - 87 - 3 - 2 .1 & 60
Property Location: Minnehaha Boulevard, Southold
(provide LILCO Pole # , distance to cross streets, and location)
AGENT: En-Consultants, Inc.
( If applicable)
1329 North Sea Road
Address: Southampton, New York 11968
Phone: 516-283-6360
516-2
FAX# : 83-6136
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Board of Trustees Application
GENERAL DATA
Land Area ( in square feet) : 174 , 240±
Area Zoning:
Previous use of property: Marina Basins
intended use of property: No Change
Prior permits/approvals for site improvements:
Agency Date
Southold Trustees #68 06/22/59
NYS DEC #10-88-1358 11/14/88
No prior permi_s/approvals for site improvements.
Has any permit/approval ever been revoked or suspended by a
governmental agency?
X No Yes
If yes, provide explanation:
Project Description (use attachments if necessary) : Dredge two ( 2 )
irregularly shaped areas used for marina to maximum depth of -4 MHW.
Approximately 3 , 950 cubic yards of sand/silt to be deposited on two
( 2 ) spoil sites as indicated on plans prepared by Anthony
Lewandowski, dated 5/20/98 .
Board of Trustees Application
WETLAND/TRUSTEE LANDS APPLICATION DATA
Purpose of the proposed operations: Restore and maintain safe
water depths for navigation.
Area of wetlands on lot: indeterminable square feet
Percent coverage of lot: indeterminablq
Closest distance between nearest existing structure and upland
edge of wetlands: n/a feet
Closest distance between nearest proposed structure and upland
edge of wetlands: n/a feet
Does the project involve excavation or filling?
No X Yes
If yes, how much material will be excavated? 3 , 950 cubic yards
How much material will be filled? n/a cubic yards
Depth of which material will be removed or deposited: -4 MLw
feet
Proposed slope throughout the area of operations: 1 : 3
Manner in which material will be removed or deposited:
Basins will be dredged by barge-mounted clamshell bucket crane.
Statement of the effect, if any, on the wetlands and tidal
waters of the town that may result by reason of such proposed
operations (use attachments if appropriate) :
The proposed dredging will not adversely affect Town waters or
the adjacent tidal wetlands. The two areas to be dredged have
been used historically as marina basins and thus the impact of
the project will be only to maintain the navigational water
depths associated with that existing use. The effects of turbidity
from dredging the sand and silt will be localized in the marina
basin and, aided y the presence of the adjacent intertidal marsh
vegetation, ephemeral in nature. And, although the dredging will
temporarily disturb the creek bottom by physically removing naturally
accreted sand and silt, the surrounding habitat will not be adversely
affected.
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PROJECT I.D.NUMBER 617.21 S E Q R
Appendix C
State Environmental Quality Review
SHORT ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FORM
For UNLISTED ACTIONS Only
PART I—PROJECT INFORMATION (To be completed by Applicant or Project sponsor)
I .APPLICANT/SPONSOR LAUGHING WATERS PROPERTY 2.PROJECT NAME
OWNERS ASSOCIATION BY EN-CONSULTANTS.INC.
3.PROJECT LOCATION:
Municipality SOUTHOLD County SUFFOLK
4.PRECISE LOCATION(Street address and road intersections, prominent landmarks,etc.,or provide map)
BOULEVARD, SOUTHOLD.NY-SCTM#1000-87-3-2.1&60
S.IS PROPOSED ACTION:
®New ❑Expansion ❑Modificationlalteration
S.DESCRIBE PROJECT BRIEFLY:
RIDGE TWO(2)IRREGULARLY SHAPED AREAS USED FOR MARINA TO MAXIMUM DEPTH OF—1 MHW.
APPROXIMATELY 3,950 CUBIC YARDS OF SAND/SILT TO BE DEPOSITED ON TWO(2)SPOIL SITES AS INDICATED ON
ANS,PREPARED BY ANTHONY LEWANDOWSKL DATED 5/20/98.
7.AMOUNT OF LAND AFFECTED:
Initially 2PR0X.4 aeres Ultimately APPROX.4 acres
S.WILL PROPOSED ACTION COMPLY WITH EXISTING ZONING OR OTHER EXISTING LAND USE RESTRICTIONS?
®Yea [IN, If No, describe briefly
9.WHAT IS PRESENT LAND USE IN VICINITY OF PROJECT?
®Residential ❑Industrial ❑Commercial ❑Agriculture ❑ParkfForeaVOpen space ❑Other
Describe:
10.DOES ACTION INVOLVE A PERMIT APPROVAL,OR FUNDING,NOW OR ULTIMATELY FROM ANY OTHER GOVERNMENTAL AGENCY(FEDERAL,
STATE OR LOCAL)?
®Yss ❑No If yes,list agency(s)and permltlapprovals
EC.COE&DOS
11. DOES ANY ASPECT OF THE ACTION HAVE A CURRENTLY VALID PERMIT OR APPROVAL?
❑Yes ®No If yes, list agency name and permit/approval
12.AS A RESULT OF PROPOSED ACTION WILL EXISTING PERMIT/APPROVAL REQUIRE MODIFICATION?
Ely. ®No
I CERTIFY THAT THE INFORMATION PROVIDED ABOVE IS TRUE TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE
Applicant/sponsor name OBE RIFE. HERRMANN, COASTAL MGMT.SPECIALIST Data: MAY 26. 1998
Signature:
Et
action
is in the Coastal Area, and you are a state agency, complete the
Coastal Assessment Form before proceeding with this assessment
rnyF a
County of Suffolk
State of New York
BEING DULY SWORN
DEPOSES AND AFFIRMS THAT HE/SHE IS THE APPLICANT FOR THE ABOVE
DESCRIBED PERMIT(S) AND THAT ALL STATEMENTS CONTAINED HEREIN ARE
TRUE TO THE BEST OF HIS/HER KNOWLEDGE AND BELIEF, AND THAT ALL
WORK WILL BE DONE IN THE MANNER SET FORTH IN THIS APPLICATION
AND AS MAY BE APPROVED BY THE SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD OF TRUSTEEM,S.
THE APPLICANT AGREES TO HOLD THE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD AND THE TOWN
TRUSTEES HARMLESS AND FREE FROM ANY AND ALL DAMAGES AND CLAIMS
ARISING UNDER OR BY VIRTUE OF SAID PERMIT( S) , IF GRANTED. IN
COMPLETING THIS APPLICATION, I HEREBY AUTHORIZE TBE TRUSTEES,
THEIR AGENT( S) OR REPRESENTATIVES( S) , TO ENTER ONTO MY PROPERT'_'
TO INSPECT THE PREMISES IN CONJUNCTION WITH REVIEW OF THIS
APPLICATION.
Signature �L � 0 2-7C
�SWORN TO BEFORE ME THIS DA-
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Notary Public
SANDRA CARLSON
Notary Public, State of New York
No. 24-4788617
Quallfied in Kings C my
Cert. filed in Newpu
Commission Expire
AUTHORIZATION
(where the applica is not the owner)
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residing at - M IA!Alt I)H I y Dh"J
(print owner of property) (mailing address) C, `}hcL�
do hereby authorize
(Agent)
A ,L , / c - to apply for permit( s) from the
Southold Board of Town Trustees on my behalf .
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(Owner ' s signature)
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ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS
LAUGHING WATERS PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION
MINNEHAHA BOULEVARD
SOUTHOLD,NY
SCTM#1000-87-3-2.1 SCTM #1000-87-3-60
SCTM#1000-87-3-3 SCTM#1000-87-3-58
Henry Haggerty Frank Gumper
3850 Minnehaha Boulevard 20 Deerfield Road
Southold,NY 11971 Port Washington,NY 11050
SCTM 1000-87-3-4 SCTM#1000-87-3-59
Mary Fishetti Victor& Ella Ann Beck
3760 Minnehaha Boulevard 2215 Minnehaha Boulevard
Southold,NY 11971 Southold,NY 11971
SCTM#1000-87-3-5 SCTM#1000-87-3-61
Elizabeth Sharkey&Ann Lenceski Lary&Joan Kulick
Zoodry Road 21 Toren Court
Cutchogue,NY 11935 Hauppauge,NY 11788
SCTM#1000-87-3-6 SCTM#1000-87-3-64
Emma Tschiember Town of Southold
3640 Minnehaha Boulevard Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
Southold,NY 11971 Southold,NY 11971
SCTM#1000-87-3-53.1 SCTM#1000-87-3-65
St. Patrick's Cemetery Same as Applicant
c/o George Rice, Esq.
Post Office Box 710
Rockville Centre,NY 11571
SCTM#1000-78-4-16
Michael Volpe
84 Campus Road
Staten Island, NY 10301
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P.O. Box 20
Southold, NY 11971
August 28, 1999
Reference: LWPOA dredging project.
Board of Trustees
Southold Town Hall
Main Road
Southold,NY 11971
Dear Board:
The Board approved our dredging project at its regular meeting on June 24, 1998.
However, during the meeting the Board concluded that in the absence of proof of
ownership by LWPOA, the underwater land in the channel adjacent to the South Marina
was subject to a spoil removal fee of$10 a cubic yard. During the meeting, an
extemporaneous calculation of the subject area indicated it to be 1,265 cubic yards and
therefore a fee of$12,650 was assessed.
On July 17, 1998 I requested an extension until we had all our permits and we knew for
sure we would proceed with the project. After reviewing historical documents and
photographs of the area in question, LWPOA concluded that the omission of the channel
in our deed for the South marina was an oversight. I put forth that position in my letter of
September 5, 1998 and requested the fee be rescinded. Subsequently, at the Board's
suggestion, we have discussed the subject with the Southold Town Attorney. To date no
further action has been taken. Although we intuitively feel our position is valid, events
have overtaken the issue.
We have now obtained permits from the NY DEC and State Departments, and the U.S.
Army COE. During the process of obtaining a DEC permit, that agency reduced the
amount of spoil that could be removed. Specifically, after requiring new soundings and
site information, the DEC reduced the area to be dredged because of the adjacent wetland
East of the channel and the fact that some waters were deeper than initially estimated. In
addition to these factors, it was discovered that an error was made when calculating the
$12,650 fee. Please note the attached recalculations using the DEC approved plan. Our
contractor, Latham Sand& Gravel, concurs with these new numbers. Accordingly, the
new calculated spoil to be removed from the channel is 177 cu. yds. (areas A, B and D as
indicated on the attached plan) and therefore the fee should be reduced to $1,770.
Notwithstanding the above, we still request that the Board waive this fee based on our
claims previously discussed. Please advise us on your decision as soon as possible so we
can move forward to make the final arrangements for this work.
Sincerely,
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Eileen Castro, President
Attached copies: DEC approved plan with areas labeled for calculations.
Spoil removal calculations.
Contractor estimate.
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PROPOSED DREDGE CALCULATIONS FOR LAUGHING WATERS P.O.A.
SOUTH MARINA
AREA A: 20'x 195'x 0.5' = 72 cubic yards
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AREA B: 25' x 138'x 0.5' = 64 cubic yards
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AREA C: 35' x 138'x 2.5' =447 cubic yards
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AREA D: 20' x 110' x 0.5' = 41 cubic_yards
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NORTH MARINA
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AREA B: 230' x 20'x 1' = 170 cubic yards
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AREA C: 20' x 40' x 2' 59 cubic yards
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LATHAM SAND & GRAVEL
41995 Main Road
ORIENT, NEW YORK 11957
(516) 323-2585
PROPOSAL SUBMITTED TO PHONE PATE
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39P 11rapoSP hereby to furnish material and labor —/1 complete in accordance With above specifications. for the sum of:
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Payment to be made as follows:
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All material is guaranteed to be as specifed. All work to be completed in a workmanlike
manner according to standard practices. Any alteration or deyialion from ab.,specifi=a Authorized 1/�•
tiens Involving extra costs will be executed only upon written orders.and will become an Signature
extra Charge over and above the estimate.All agreements contingent upon strikes.accidents
or delays beyond our control. Owner to carry fire, tornado and other necessary insurance. Note:This proposal may be _
Our workers am fully covered by Workmen's Compensation Insurance, withdrawn by us if not accepted within 90 days.
ArreptWe of f roponal—The above prices. specifications
sand conditions are satisfactory and are hereby accepted. You are authorized Signature
to do the work as specified.Payment will be made as outlined above.
Date of Acceptance: Signature