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Home My WebLink AboutPB-01/27/1966-JOINTSouthold Town Planning Board _ SOUTHOLD, L. I., N. Y. 'PLAI~N i.N .~ BOARD MEMBERS ~John %.V/ickham, Chairman Henry Moisa Alfred ~,rebe William Unkelb~ch MIN'UTE S JOlT ~ET~G January 27~ 1966 A joint meeting of Rlverhead Town Planning Board and $outhold Town Planning Board together-with their consultant engineers, Town Supervisors and representatives from the County and State Department of Public Works~ was held at Riverhead'Town Hall, Roanoke Avenue, Riverhead,. New York, on Thursday~ January 27~ 1966. There were present: Riverhead Town Supervisor Robert ~,,:$oUthold Town Supervisor Lester M.. Albertson~ dalph Kammer~ of. County Department of :s and his first deputy'William Mat~ Mr. Jo ~h~l~Toth and Peter~ Halbin of the New York ment OE 'Bmblic-Works, from the Riverhead.Town Plannin. iBoa~d: Corwin .Tuthill, John~Dunn, Hough Wilsona Alden Young~ Helen Guyer~ Clerk. From the Southold Town Planning Board: John~Wickham~ Archibald Young~ Henry'Moisa~-Otto Van' Tuyl~P,E.} Lawrence Tu~hill, P~E., and Howard Terry~ Building InsPector. The meeting was called to order at 8:15 P.M.~ by Mr. Corwin Tuthill, acting chairman. Joint Meeting -2- ~- January 27, 1966 Mr. Kammerer and M_r. Matsunaye displayed a large map made from an airial photo with the proposed new County Road from Sound Avenue and Cox Neck Road~.Mattitu~ westerly running along the'Long Island ~ghtension line~ north of Jamesport and River~ ~east of Riverhead Village to c, the new highways surrounding the CountyCente~'C~ to connect~ith Sunrise Highway {Route 27) and the Riverhead-Morich~s Road, also a proposed future leg to connect with Route 25 and the Long IslandExpressway~ west of Riverhead Village. Mr.~ Corwin Tuthill spoke for the'Riverhead Planning Board and stated, he thought this was about the best route and way to .lay-out this road does not have to go through the Village or'Cou They might like to see the river crossing changed to'a east if possible. The question of h~any north and south roads would be cut off by this new road was raised. Mr. Matsunaye stated this will be an "uncontrolled access road" at present so all streets will have intersections,, at least for the time being. The questionof how the road will affect RiverheadCentral District~%2 proposed new school at Jamesport~was raised. Their property is adjacent to the proposed new road. After discussion it was agreed that probably the road will be an asset to the school bygiving better access ,than the present town highways. Ho~ever~ if the school authorities want to get anotherlocation it.s felt they could dispose of this property to, good advantage at'any time. ~fter'a lenghty discussion,, it was generally, agreed this is as good a route as can be hoped for'and ~11 ~necessary steps should be, taken by both Planning and Town Boards andCo~y ~PublicWorks Depa~ent to getthis apprOVed and on the state'Highway~System immediately. th,e !road ~re discussed togetherwith ~ much the ~ountycan do. ~t was brought out thatbridges for-railroada cannot be built with Countyfunds. There must be State or- Federal funds and they are subject to apprOVal Of the Public Service commission. Joint Meeting --3- January 27~. 1966 The Supervisors present stated they will do all they can to get this proposed road started as soon as possible. At this t/me a colored map from the-Riverhead Town'Master Plan showing existing and proposed highways was shown and expired by Alden Young. There was a long discussion by all on the proposed Long Island Expressway Extension north of the Riverhead business area and the connecting roads planned for the-County~Center area south of the River. Much concern was expressed over the traffic jam-at the present circle south of the Village and the possibility of complicating this~ith more through t=affic. It was suggested another route further south ~ set up for through traffic. More airial photos will be taken~in this area.. Other arterial connecting roads in mind will be shown. ---There was some discussion on widths of right-of-ways to be acquired and for "turn off and acceleration"lanes at inter- sections, stated these are a "must" and will be the new roadS. He discussed the experimental widening end of'Medford'A~enue~ Patchogue._ ~This may be a pattern ~ fu.t3~re highways. Where-width of right-of-way is limite~t is possible they will use this pattern north of Greenportwhen they widen that section or'Route 27A. There was further discussion on crossing the Peconic-River. Fir. Kammerer stated he has planned a fixed span bridge, with maximum 35 feet clearance. He will keepit~as low as possible to keep the cost down. It seems only smal~ sail boats use this part of the river and there are not too many of them. Th~ swamp area on the south side of the river is very'soft and-will require excuvating of mud and~backfilling with~sound ~m~teri~ ~o support the h~ghway. Moretests and studies of this are in p~ogres's now. If it canbe done without too much expense they may ~h!ift~:~ the bridge a little further east. There was a brief discussion on the'Connecticut Bridge Report. Supervisor Lester Albertsonis the only person present that had seen a bridge reportso not much discusSlion-could be held on it. Mr. John Toth stated that further legislation is necessary to extend the expressway past Route 58 at Riverhead. This is supposed to be under contractby 1967 and completed in 1968, and opened by 1969, It seems they are having some trouble getting the right ofway at present. Joint Meeting -4- January 27, 1966 There was a discussion of trading Route 58 with theState for'Route 2~through Riverhead Village area, ~It was felt that by the t/me this could be done Route 58 will be ~built up too much to change and it would be better to have an extension of the-Expressway north of all the business area for through traffic, This could be terminated at the new highway first discussed for the time being~ at least~so the main stream of through traffic will have some open road to absorb it, Mr. Toth thought any extension of the expressway east of Route 58 at Riverhead would be a regular four lane dual' highway with 110 to 120 feet width,, but he was not sure of this at this time. There was a brief discussion of future widening of'Route 27 in'Southold Town and the possibility of a bridge to Shelter Island' and the south side, Mostfelt this is a most pra~ctical route, Cedar Beach to Jessups and New Suffolk to Cow Neck by way of Robins Island were considered as impractical and not acheiving ~ enough good to the public for the cost and difficulties involved. It was felt Robins Island shouldcontinue as it is for the time being and in the future should be 'taken over by the Town as a park or recreation area. Most felt that a m~jorityof the residents on Shelter Island would be in f&vor? ora bridge instead of a ferry boat if the roads were laid out properly, Mr. Toth stated that the StateWill probably rebuild the Sunrise Highway west'of. Sayville before they extend east~ even tho surveys are in progress now, There wassome discussion on renumbering some. of the County Roads to~a~id someof the confusion created by similarroute and road numbers in different' parts of the County, Superintendent Kammerer is to l~ok into this. -Southold~'s Master-Plan tax base map ~asshown so-that properties affected bythe proposed new road in w.esternSouthold Town¢ould be identified~ The meeting w~s adjourned~ at~9~30 p.-M. with. a vote of thanks to our hosts for their hospitality, Respe~-tfully subm~tted~. ~oward Terry,~ Secret~ry' Pro Tem /bd