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~rlLITHEILD, L. I., N. Y.
PLANNING BOA P,, D
MEMBI:RS
John ",V/ickhem, Chai~man
Henry Moisa
Alfred Grebe
Archibald YounB
'~illiem Unl~elb~ch
MINUTES
SOUTHOLD TOWN' PLANNING BOARD
February 4, 1964
A regular meeting of the Southold Town Planning
Board was called to order 7:25 P.M., Tuesday, February
4, 1964, at the Town Office, Main Road, Southold, New
York.
There were present: Messrs. John. Wickham, Chairman,
Henry Moisa, Alfred Grebe,~Archibald Young,. and William
Unkelbach.
Also present: ~
and Howard Terry~ Bu:
On motion of Mr.
RESOLVED that tt
essrs. Otto W. Van Tuyl, Consultant,
.lding Inspector.
Grebe, seconded by Mr. Moisa~. it was
~e minutes of the Ptann~ing Boardmeeting
of January '7a 1964 be approved as submitted.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Wickham, Mr. Moisa,'
Mr. Grebe, Mr. Young, and Mr. Unkelbach.
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February 4~ 1964
Mr. Van Tuyl brought up for further discussion the
matter of the road name in the proposed subdivision of
"Sterling Homes" at the south side ManhansetAvenue,
Greenport. The owners of this property requested that
the Planning Board reconsider lattinq them name the road
Stratmors Lane.
The Board authorized a letter to be forwarded to Mro
Christ Stratakis~ attorney-in-fact and co-owner of this
property advising that the Town of Southold has a clear cut
policy of not allowing two streets of the same name within
the same area. Since the name Stratmors Road was used in
the development"Stratmors Estates" they would not be willing
to accept the name Stratmors Lane in the "Sterling Homes"
development.
The Board received the formal application and fee
for'~terling Homes"° The area of the land is 5.738 acres
and it is boundedand described as follows: Beginning at
the intersection of the easterly line of Beach Road with the
southerly line of Manhanset-~Avenue~ from said point of
beginning running along said southerlyline of Manhanset
Avenue,~ S. 68° 35' 50" E. 462.27 feet to a monument and
land of Bumble; thence along said land of Bumble and along
the several lands of'LaVeglia, Renner, Case~ Getches,
Capuano, Trilcott &-Olsen,.$. 2° 55' 00, WZ 638.54 feet
to a monument on the northerly.line ofsaid Beach Road;
thence along said northerly line of Beach Road, N. 83° 15'
10~ W. 26.35 feet; thence northwesterly along the north-
easterly line of said Beach, Road on a curve to the ri~t
having a radius of 386.0 feet~ a distance of 533.25 feet;
thence along said easterly,line of Beach Road, N. 4° 06'
00" Wo448.~76 feet to thee po~i~t of beginning.
Mr. Lefferts P. Edson appeared before the Planning
Board with Mr. Joseph Schnsiderl~ President Or'Eastern
Shores~'Inc. and Mr. Charles Morgan~ He presented the
fee and formal application for the plat and the alternate
plan for Sound Drive at the northerly~end of the proposed
subdivision.
".Eastern Shores~ Inc." contains 35.580 acres~, is located
on the north side of County'Route 27A~ Greenport, and is
bounded and described as follows: Beginning at a point on
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February 4~ 1964
the northerly side of Middle Road (C.R,.~27) (Nqrth Road)
distant 41~0.78 feet westerty when measu,red alon~ the
northerly side of said Middle Road from !the southwesterly
corner of land now or formerl~ of Freder!ick H. TaSker and
from said point of beginning running thence westerly along
the northerly side of said Middle Road ~along an~ arc of a
curve bear!ing to the left having a radius of 38152.72 feet a
distance of 140.91 feet to lan~ now or :fo~merl~ of Dennis,
formerly of John P~ Davies; running thence along said land
the follow,ing courses and distances: (li) North 15 degrees
26 minutes West 115.73 feet; (2) SOuth~ 715 degrees 20 minutes
40 seconds West 120o21 feet roi land now
S. Burr; running thence along
and distances: (1) North 15 degzees
West 415 feet to Long Island Sound;
general easterly direction along the
which bears North 87 degrees 32
609.36 feet to land now or
~illiam J. Sutton or
said land and along land of
28 minutes: 10 seconds E~st 1847 fee% to
formerly o!f said Frederick H.,Tasker;
said la~d South 68 degrees 19 minU~es
feet; runn~ing thence No~th 16 degrees
West 10 felet; running thence South 76
seconds'West 407.76 fee~; running
55 minutes' 50 seconds East
said Mi~dte Road at the pein t or ~Pl~ce
of Monroe
folilowing courses
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I~cluded
signe~ by'thePreS as
folloWs:~ "The cer~o~a~ions there
is a~ Obli~ rea of
lan~ for re
regulations a, p~at
o~ tmnd. Th~ corporations belownamed~ereby ~ an
intention to grant an area' or areaslof Tew~
for such purposes during the courseof the
the property owned by the said c0rpora~tions. The
or agreements for such grants to the Town of~$outhold~ are
tO be specifically defined and agreed upon by the respective
parties during the course of this development process as it
progresses."
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All parties concerned held a lengthy discussion
relative to the alternate plan for Sound Road° The
Planning Board was completely satisfied with the new
proposal but the owners did not agree. The matter was
thoroughly discussed and finally the applicants stated
that they would be willing to go along with the wishes of
the Planning Board. In making this chan~e it will notbe
necessary to have a 10 fro crosswalk in the center of the
main block in this subdivision.
Mr. Edson advised thathe would have the map amended
to show the alternative approved plan and submit three
copies to the Planning Board.
Mr. and Mrs. Joseph Hoey and Mrs. Genevieve Daly and
presumably Mrs. Dal~'~son, appeared before the Planning
Beard to discuss the propertyin the. Estate~of Thomas F.
Daly at-the east side of Town Harbor~Lane,~ SoRth0'ld, New
York. The Board examined a suggested layout-map dated
October 23~ 1962 byOtto W. Van Tuyl.& Sen° There is
public water along Town Harbor'Lane and the developers
plan to extend it into the subdivision, therefore the lots
are laid out at 12~500 sq. fto
The develepers strongly objected to the idea of public
highways and did not wish to have access to the water avail-
able to the Public. They were advised that they did not
have to build the roads immediately but the roads when they
are built would have to be to Town specifications and the
access would be required.
After considerable discussion v~ative to public water
and-the road layout they decided to revise the map and
consult with the Suffolk County Health Department and Town
Highway. Superintendent.
The Planning the Town Board the
petitien !of ~illard
requesting a chan~e Of zone fr
Agricultural District to "B" ~ DiStriCt~on'certain
property!inLaurel with a request that the Planning Board
prepare an official report-defi~inq the conditio~s described
in the petition and determine the area so affect with the
recommendation~f the Board.
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This property is bounded and described as follows:
Beginning at a monumented point on the southerly line of
the Main (State) Road,~ said point being the northeasterly
corner of herein described parcel and the northwesterly
corner of land now or formerly of'Kander, said point also
being 196.97 feet westerly along the southerly line of
MaSn (State) Road from the pointof intersection of the
westerly line of Bray Avenue and the southerly line of
Main (State) Road~ running thence,~.S. 20° 46' 50" E. 1~78.74
feet along land now or formerly of Kander to a monument;
running thence S. 69° 13' 10¥ W. 50 feet along land now or
formerly of~Katherine Tuthill to a monument; running thence
N. 20° 46' 50" W. 164.37 feet along land now or formerly of
Venteau Construction Corp. to a monument on the southerly
i/ne of the Main (State) Road; running thence N. 53° 10~
50" E. 52.03 feet to the point or place Of beginning. Said
parcel being lot 2 of subdivision map of George I. Tuthill,
Section 1, Laurel, Town of'Southold, New York, filed with
the County-Clerk's Office as Map No. 861. Survey~map of
Lot 2 byAlden W. Young, dated October 10, 1962.
The Board thoroughly discussed this proposal and it
was th~ opinion of the Board the remainder of the property
easterly to the corner of Bray'Avenue be included in this
change of zone as well as Lot No. 1 to the west as this
property is all non-conforming at the present time.
On motion of Mr. Unkelbach, seconded by Mr. Grebe, it
was
RESOLVED that the Planning Board recommend at the
TownB~oard on ~ts own motion change the zone from "A"
Residentia~l ~'~A~ricultU'ral District to "B" Business
Dis'~riet on~Lots t, 2, 3~ 4, and 5 in the Go I. Tuthill
SUbdivision,~SeCtion 1~ located on the south side of Main
(State) Road, Laurel~ New York.
On Lot No. 1 there is a billboard and it is understood
the owner originally intended to construct-a model house
on this lot. Lot-No. 2 is owned by the applicant, Mro
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Northridge, and there is a non-conforming business
building located on the lot. On lots 3, 4, and 5 there
is presently located a non-conforming business use by
Mr. Kander.
This is rapidly developing as a business area. There
is already a gas station, masonry contractor, public garage,
non-conforming vegetable stand and a horse stable in this
area.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr.~ Wickham, Mr. Moisa,
Mr. Grebe, Mr. Young~ and Mr. Unkelbach.
The Planning Board received from the Town Board the
original petition of James V. and Frances J, Catfa of 82
Brightwood Street, Patchogue~ New ¥ork~ requesting a change
of zone from "A" Residentia'l and Agricultural District to
"B" Business District on property located on the west side
of North Main Street~ GreenP0rt, with instructions to prepare
an official report defining the conditions described in the
petition and determine the a~ea so affected with the recommenda-
tion of the Board.
This property is bounded and described as follows:
Beginning at the northeast corner thereof at a point on the
westerly line of'Main Street said point being at the south-
east corner of land of Hergrueter; thence running southerly
along said westerly line of Main Street-S. 26° 31' 50"
a distance of 169.86 feet to the northeast corner of land
now or formerly of Coveleski; thence running on a straight
line westerly partly along said land of Coveleski and partly
along land now or formerly of Davidson S. 63° 28~ 10" W°
to a point 150 feet from said westerly line of-Main Street;
thence running northerly along land belonging ~to'Davidson
a lin'e N. 26° 31' 50" W. distance of'169o86 feet to land now
belonging to Hergrueter; thence running Easte~ly'S. 63° 28'
10" W.- 150 feet along said straight line of property of
Hergrueter to the point or p~ace of beginning. Map of
property surveyed for James V. & Frances J. Calla by'Otto
W. Van Tuyl &..Son dated July-24, 1961.
The applicant zequests the change of zone from "A"
Residential and Agricultural District to "B" Business
District to permit the construction of a professional
building.
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It was the decision of the Board to further investigate
this propertyand submit their findings at the ne~t planning
Board meeting.
The Board very briefly discussed the proposed road
to be known as "Charlie's Lane" at New Suffolk. Two years
ago this Board had taken this matter up w~th the Suffolk
County Department of Pubtic Works as Charlie's Lane joing~
with a county route. At-the present time a l°t'has bee~
sold on this proposed road and the owner wishles to build
but cannot obtain a building permit because the road has not
been approved and recognition of access cannot be granted
by the Board'of Appeals because this ro~d is not passable.
The Board again discussed the matter of widening
Grilling Street, School ~treet~Extension and North Street
at Cutchogue in connection With the proposed change of zone
~ from "A" Residential and Ag~cultural District~tO "B" Business
District on the property of~illiam J. Baxter, Jr. and others.
A letter Was received from William Wickhami attorney, stating
that he has been requested by the Baxter~ interests to advise
that they agree to dedicate five additional feet on either
side of Griffing Street from the'Post Office northward and
five feet on either side of School House Road Extension
easterly to their boundary lineo
Since it has been discussed before and the above seems
to present a problem as to the continuity of the road it
was decided that the matter should be held for further
discussion with the Baxter interests.
Mr. Wickkam reported that'he talk~dlwith Mr,
Diffigos of the N~w'¥ark state~iBureau ~fi Plannin!
of Co~m~erce and about'ten days ago he talked~
of three departments at,Cornelt regarding the future study
of'the Town and everything seems to be in order. There
will be a pre-application meeting at'7:30 P~M.~ Thursday~
Februar~ 13~ 1964 at the office of the Supervisor'at
Greenport.
The next regular meeting of the Southotd Town Planning
Board will be held 7:30 P.M.~ Tuesday, March 10, 196~ at
the Town Office, Main Road, Southol~ New York.
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The Planning Board received-from the Town Board a
resolution containing proposed amendments to the ~Building
Zone Ordinance with instructions to prepare an official
report thereon~
The amendments proposed read as follows:
io By.amending~Article III~ Section 300 of said
Ordinance by adding a new subdivision,, to be Subdivision
4~, to read as follows:
4A. Stables and riding academies, when authorized
as a special exception by the Board of~Appeals as
hereinafter provided.
II. By amending Article III, Section 300, Subdivision
6 or,said Ordinance to read as follows:
6. Public utility buildings, structures~ or
facilities, when authorized as a special exception
by the Board of Appeals, as hereinafter provided.
III. By amending Article IV, Section 400, Subdivision
5 of said Ordinance to read as follows:
5. Offices, banks and financial institutions.
IV. By-amending-Article X,~ of sai~ Ordinance by adding
thereto a new section to be Secticn 1000~ to r~ad as follows:
SECTION 1000B - In any District, no dwelling
shall be hereafter ,~erected or altered unless
provision shall be made therein for' notless than
eight hundred and fifty (850~ square feet-or'space
w~thin the exterior of the foundation walls at
ground level exclusive of garage~ car park~ car
port~ open porches or terraces, or other extensions
out-side the body of the house~ Provided~however~
that fifty {50) percent of the habitable area of
the second story may be used and applied to the
area requirement of the first floor.
Notwithstanding anything hereinabove to the
contrary the area of the second floor shall be
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February 4, 1964
included in computing the area of the total habitable
area when the finished floor of the second story has
a clear headroom of not less than seven and one-
half (7~i/2) feet with knee walls of not less than
five (5) feet and when the second floor is serviced
by a permanently placed stairway.
The Planning Board members reviewed each proposal
and decided to hold this matter until thene~t meeting for
further consideration.
Mr. Young wished the f~llowing items recor~e-~in the
minutes as being matters he feels should~be considered and
action taken on in the near future:
The Town of Southold Highway~Specifications should be
revised and strengthened.
The sign portion of the Ordinance should be revised
and enforced.
Parking in connection with new business buildings and
apartment houses should be carefully examined and enforced°
Each item was discussed by the Board.
Mr. Young also brought up the fact'the Town of~Southold
will becelebrating its 325th anniversary in 1965o
On motion of Mr. Young~ seconded by-Mr. Moisa, it was
RESOLVED that a letter be forwarded to the $outhold
Town Board calling to their attention the fact1965 will
be the 325th anniversary of~Southold Town and stating that
it is not too soon to start planning for it.
vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr.~ Wickham~ Mr. Moisa~
Mr. Grebe, Mr. ¥oung~ and Mr. Unkelbach.
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Mr. Grebe presented to the Board a newspaper article
from The Day~ New London,~Connecticut~ in connection with
a proposed tunnel ~nderLong Island. Sound from Long Island
toConnecticuto
It was agreed by the members of the Planning Board
that there are some serious problems that must'be considered
in any discussion of a bridge or tunnel from Long Island
to Connecticut. One ofthem is the isolation requirements
of~Plum Island and another is the conservation of the
natural beauty of Fishers Island.
The meeting adjourned at 10:10 P.M.
John Wickham, Chairman
Respectfully submitted,
Judith To Boken, Secretary