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BoUTHOLD, L. I., N. Y.
PLANNING BOARD
MEMBERS
John '~//i¢l~harn, Chairrn~n
J"lenr¥ MoJs~
Alfred Grebe
Archibold Young
%v/il lia m Unlcelbech
MINUTES
SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD
March 10, 1964
A regular meeting ofthe Southold Town Planning
Board was held 7:30 P.M., Tuesday, March 10, 1964 at
the Town Office, Main Road, Southold, New York.
There were present: Messrs. John Wickham, Chairman,
Henry Moisa,~A~hibald Young~ William Unkelbach.
Absent: Mr. Alfred Grebe, weather did not permit
flying from Fishers Island.
Also present: Mr. Otto W. Van Tuyl, Consultant,
Mr. Howard Terry~, Building Inspector.
~Lr. Lefferts P. Edson and Mr. Joseph M.. Schneider
appeared before the~Planning Board to request tentative
approval of "Eastern Shoresat GreenpOrt". Mr. Edson
presented the three cop~es of the tentative map and
profiles to the Board forexamination.
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Mr. Young brought up for discussion the connection of
the cross-roads to the adjoining property and it was found
that this has been taken care of for future projection° Mr.
Van Tuyl advised that he had spoken with Mr. Price regarding
the road layout and he recommended that the entrance have a
single 50 ft. road rather than include the proposed island
in the center. In doing this, the area on either side of the
entrance can be shown as drainage area.
On motion of Mr. Unkelbach~ seconded by Mr. Moisa, it was
RESOLVED that Joseph Mo Schneider, President of'Eastern
Shores, Inc. be granted tentative approval of his proposed
subdivision to be known as "Eastern Shores at Greenport~"
Map by'Otto W. Van Tuyl & Son dated March 6~ 1964.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Wickham~ Mr, Moisa~
Mr. Young, and Mr. Unkelbach.
Mr. Schneider was advised that~he may now instruct his
engineer or surveyor to proceed With the staking of lines~
taking all necessary p~oflles and establishing street grades
as required by the Rules and RegUlatiOns.for the Subdivision
of land~ computing the,map~l~prepa~i~gthe finished map., and
submit ~/aree cloth t~ri~ts to the HealthDepartment for its
approval. Then at least fifteen days before a regular meeting
of the Planning Board the developer or his agent will file
with the Planning Board the finished cloth prints, approved
by the Health Department, together with all other necessary
details required by the Planning Board.
Mr.-EdsOn requested that a date be set for the public
hearing on the approva~ cf
The~Boa~d Sta~ed that When
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that w&ter mains will be installed and same presented to the
Board of Health~ then a date will be set for the ~hearing. If
everything is in order by the 24th of March when the Planning
Board is having a joint meeting, a time will be set for a
public hearing on the 14th of April.
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The Planning Board received from the Town Board the
petition of Cleaves Point-Corpo, East Marion~ New York, for
a change of zone from~"A'' Residential and Agricultural District
to "B" Business District with instructions to prepare an
official report defining the conditions described in the
petition and determine the area so affected with the recommenda-
tion of the Board.
The requested change covers two parcels of land on the
south side of'Main Road owned by C~eaves Point. Corp., and
more particularly bounded and described as follows:
Parcel I:- (east of~Maple Lane from Main Road to
Gardiner's Bay) - beginning at a point on the southerly line
of Main Road at the northeasterly corner of the premises herein
described and adjoining land oflClementina Rutkowski; running
thence along said land of'Rutkowski, six courses® as follows:
(1) south 34° 34' 40" east, 1067o74 feet; thence (2) south
33° 22' 50" east, 812.15 feet; thence (3) north 58° 49' 10"
east, 87.89 feet; thence (4) south 33° 30~ 50" east® 427.54
feet; thence (5) north 85° 45~ 20" east, 579.70 feet; thence
(6) north 55° 16' 00" east~ 340 feet to the westerly line of
Shipyard Lane; thence along said tineof Shipyard Lane., south
35° 41' 30" ea~t~ 900 feet, more or less,, to the ordinary high
water mark of Gardiner's Bay as of 1947; thence westerly along
said high water mark, 1915 feet, more or lessa to the easterly
line of a certain parcel of land designated as "Reserved for
Beach Area" shown on "Map oflSection I - Cleaves Point"~. filed
in the Suffolk-County Clerk's office as map no. 2752; thence
along the easterly line of said Reserved parcel, north 44° 03'
30" west, 190 feet, more or'less, to the northeasterly corner
of said parcel; thence along a certain 15 foo%right of way
shewn on said filed map, north 12° 53' 10" east, 131.27 feet;
thence along lot 6 as shown on said map, north 8° 13' 10"
east, 121.02 feet; thence along lot 5 as shown on said map,
north 0i 22' 40" east~ 124.15feet; thence along lot 4 as
shown on said map, north 16° 08' 20" West,. 131.$6 feet;
thence'along lot t as shown on said~map, two courses, as
follows: (1) north 56° 37~ 10" east~ 75 feet; thence (2)
north 33° 22' 50" west~ 150 feet to the southerly end of a
private road known as Maple Lane as shown on said map; thence
o ' 10"
across the southerly end of said Maple Lanez north 56 37
east~ 38 feet to the easterly line cf said Maple Lane; thence
along the easterly line of said Maple Lane~ five courses, as
follows:° (1) north 33° 22' 50" ~est~ 798.70 feet; thence (2)
north 30 23~ 40" west, 231.68 feet; thence (3) north 36° 30'
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west~ 300.49 feet; thence (4) north 31° 30' west~ 352.40
feet; thence (5) north 42° 00' west, 268,39 feet to the
southerly line of Main Road; thencealong said southerly
line of Main Road, three courses, as follows: (1) north
66° 39' 50".e~ast, 25.04 feet; thence (2) north 66° 57' 10"
east,. 95.56 feet; thence (3) north 71° 44' 30" east, 90.19
feet to the point-or place of beginning. Containing 33o491
acres.
Parcel II:- (west of Maple Lane from Main Road 400
feet south): beginning at a point'on the southerly line of
Main Road at the northwesterly~corner' of the premises herein
described and adjoining land of Charles King; running thence
along said line of Main Road, north 66° 39~ 50" east, 335
feet to the westerly line of a private road known as Maple
Lane; thence along said line of'Maple Lane~ two courses~ as
follows: (1) south 42° 00' east~ 280.68 feet; thence (2)
south 31° 304 east~ 135.43 feet; thence on a line parallel
to said line of Main Road and 400 feet southerly therefrom~
south 66° 39' 50" west, 509.91 feet to land Yuma Corp; thence
along said land of Yuma Corp., north 21° 04'-_west~ 250o31 feet
to land of Charles King; thence along said land of King~ two
courses, as follows:- (1) north 66° 39' 50" east, 50 feet;
thence {2) north 21° 04' west, 150 feet to the point of
beginning. Containing 4.016 acres.
Attorney. for the application for this change of zone~
Stanley~S. Corwin, appeared to discuss this petition with
the Board and answer any questions the Board might have.
Mr. Corwin stated that he represents the people in charge
of the estate of~Charles Cornibert. An almost identical
application for a change of zone on th.is property ~as made
fi~e Or 6 years ago ,-with less depth on the roa~ b~t the
application was not recommended favorably by the Board, due
to the f~ct the area under aPPlication was too eX~ensive.
They have been~rYi~g to dispose of the property but-ha~e
been unsuccessful because there has been a restriction in
the areaagainst a Business zone. There is now an interested
partyz but only if the zone is changed° They-pla~ a seasonal
type of motel-restaurant operation with a gift~s~op and iother
related facilities° He explained that there is an'industrial
use at'the end of~Shipyard Lmne, adjacent to the- southerly
end of the property in question~ and non-conforming business
property on the ~ain Road~ westOf the property inquestion,
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and on the north side of the Main Road there is a golf
course~ cabins with a snack bar~ and a sea food s~ack bar.
The Chairman advised Mro Corwin that the Board has been
very reluctant to recommend changes to "B" Business zone on
extensive ac~age. The Board.questioned if an "M" Multiple
Residence zone would solve the~r~lem since~changing to "B"
leaves quite a number of busines~that can be erected. Mr.
Corwin stated that "M" is not what the applicant has in mind
and would like the petition considered as it is presented.
The entire Board will make a field study of this proposal
and Mr. Young and Mr. Moisa will make a report and the matter
will be discussed at the next meeting.
Mr. Matthew Mullen appeared before the Board to discuss
his property on the east side of'Eugene's Road~ Cutchogue. He
wishes tO Sell lots on this Town highway and would have seven
lots in all, The Board advised that if he is going to sell
the lots gradually he would not have to file a map since he
is on a Town highway and the Board approved the layout of the
lots.
On motion~f Mr. Unkelbach~ seconded by Mr. Young, it was
RESOLVED that the minutes of February 4~ 1964 be approved
as submitted.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Wickham~ Mr. Moisa~ Mr.
Young.z and Mr~ Unkelbach.
The matter of the connection of Lane to
County~ROute'26 a~ ~ed. Th'e
-of Public
no application for the attachment'to
had been~filed with the COunty~ there:fore no ac%ion can
be taken. ~ A letter was forwarded to'Mr. Joseph Ao Krupski~
attorney for?:iMro Charles Krukoski advising him'of the above
and suggesting that he fileapplication requesting approval
of drainage emptying into the box culvert-under New'Suffolk
Lane.
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The Board again considered the application for a
change of zone from James Vo and Frances Jo Calfa, 82
Brightwood Street, Patchogue, New York. This request~ was
for a change from "A" Residential and Agricultural District
to "B" Business District-on property located on the west
side of, Main Street, Greenport~ bounded and described as
follows: Beginning at the northeast corner thereof at a
point on the westerly line of Main Street~ said point being
at the southeast corner of land of Hergrueter; thence running
southerly along said westerly line of Main Street S. 26° 31'
50" E. a distance of 169.86 feet to the northeast corner of
land now or formerly of!Coveleski; thence running on a straight
line westerly partly along said land. of~Coveleski and partly
along land now or formerly of~Davidson S. 63° 28' 10" W. to
a point 150 feet from said westerly,line of Main Street; thence
running northerly along land belonging toDavidson on a line
No 26° 31' 50" W. a distance of 169.86 feet to land now belong-
ing to Hergrueter; thence running easterly.S. 63° 28' 10" W.
150 feet along said straight line of property of Hergrueter to
the point or place of beginning.
On motion of Mr. Wickham, seconded by Mr. Young~ it was
RESOLVED that the Planning Board does not recommend
favorably the change of zone from "A" Residential and Agricultural
District to "B" Business District on the property of James V.
and Frances J. Calla at Greenport as described above.
The Planning Board has thoroughly investigated this
property and finds the land as it is at present unsuitable
for business use. There is less than 50 ft. of high land
in this parcel and the Board cannot envision a business use
with adequate parking area.
If this land were filled and adequate parking area
provided for a professional building, it is the feeling of
the Planning Board that~this request-wOuld be reasonable.
(A copy of the above was sent to~Mr~ Calfa.)
vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Wickham, Mr. Moisa~ Mr.
Young, and Mr. Unketbacho
Mr. Wickham advised the Board that on this date the
Town Board signed the contract with~CornelI for CorneliUs
part of the Master Plan. At the last Town Board meeting the
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Town Board gave authorization for the Town of-Southold to
go into the 701 Plan with Greenport Village. The only new
development to date is that Mr. John'Diffigos of the State
Bureau Of Planning wishes a study of the airports added to
the Master Plan work.
The Planning Board examined the revised Scope of
Services of Raymond & May dated'~eb~'~y,28~ 1964 as re-
written by Mr. Richard May and Mr. Jghn Diffigos.
On motion of'Mr~ Moisa~ seconded by Mro Young, it was
~ESOLVED that the Planning Board of the Town of Southold
approves the revised'S~ope of Services of'Raymond & May dated
February 28~ 1964.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Wickham~,~Mr, Mcisa, Mr.
¥oung~ and Mr. Unkelbacho
The Planning Board received from the Town Board the
original petition of Vail Brothers~ Inc, for a change of
zone from "A" Residential and Agricultural District to "B"
Business District on property on the north side of Main Road~
Peconic adjoining existing business property on the corner
of Peconic Lane and Main Road. Map of~proposed change~of
zone at~Peconic by Otto Wo Van Tuyl & Son~ dated March 3,
1964. The applicant states the reason for the proposed change
is to extend used car display and provide parking for employees~
customers and new cars~ and space for additional buildings for
serviceand storage. This property is bounded and described
as follows:
Commencing at a point on the side of Main Road
formed by the intersection of th lm~d of Vail
Brothers anld the westerly line ~ndescribed~
running thence in a general st-
erlyline Of lands of Vail Brothers 180 feet ~to a point; run-
ning thence in a general easterly direction along lands of
Adam Cierach and wife and on a line parallel tolthe northerly
line of Main Road 170 feet~to a point; running thence in a
general southerly direction along lands of~dam~.Cierach a~d~wife
on a line parallel to the easterly line of the lands of'Vail
Brothers distance of 180 feet to the northerly line of'Main
Road; running thence in a gen6ral westerly direction along the
northerly line of Main Road a distance of 170 feet to the
point or'place of beginning,
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On motion of'Mr. Moisa~ s~
it was
RESOLVED that the Plannin
to the Town Board the change of
Agricultural District to "B" Bu
oflVail Brothers~ Inc. atPecon
The ~lanning Board is fami
feels that the proposed extens~
is in line with the development
Vail Brothers requests this chal
their facilities and provide pal
and employess and customers.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:-
Young~ and Mr. Unketbach.
The Board discussed extend
liquor store~ potato grading st;
However~ this area is several ~
onded by~ Mr. Unkelbach~
Board ~favorably recommends
zone from "A"'Residential and
~iness District-on the property
lc, New York°
[tar with this property and
)n of the Business District
of business in'this area.
we of zone merely'to increase
~ing for used Car$~new cars,
Mr. Wickham, Mr. Moisa~ Mr.
,ng this business zone to the
~tion and County storage garage.
xousand feet away and it was
decided not to consider it. at this time.
The Planning Board ag~im'hc~)nsidered several proposed
changes in the Zoning'~.Ordin~ance
Town Board.
was
On motion of Mro Moisa, Se.
RESOLVED that the Southold
recommends'to the Town Board th
By amending'Article III,~ S,
said Ordinance to read as foll~
6A. Public Utilitybuildil
faci~ities, when authorize.
by the Board of Appeals, a:
as proposed by the Southold
onded by Mr. Unkelbach~ it
Town planning Board favorably
following amendment:
etlon 300,~ SubdiviSion 6 of
~S:
~gs, structures, or
~ as a special exception
~ hereinafterlProvided.
ThePlanning Board is of the opinion this proposed
endment" iil enable the Board of tppeais to piace the
necessary Conditions and safeguards upon such facilities.
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In connection with other proposed ~mendments set forth
at the same time, the Planning Board would like to have an
opportunity to study them further.
vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr.-Wickham, Mr. Moisa~
Mr. Young, and Mr. Unkelbach.
With further reference to other proposals to amendment of
the Building Zone Ordinance regarding stables and riding
academies; Offices,~ banks and financial institutions; and
minimum square foot area for residences~ the Planning Board
forwarded a letter to the Town Board requesting a joint
meeting on these points to further discuss them.
The Planning Board received from the Town Board a
proposal to amend the Building zone Ordinance by'Amendment to
Article III~ Section 300 by adding thereto a new part to be
Paragraph 1 (a) to read as follows:
1 (a) The conversion of any building in existance
at the effective date hereof to two family dwelling
when authorized as a special exception by the Board
or'Appeals as hereinafter provided°
On motion.of-Mr. Young, seconded by Mro Moisa~ it was
RESOLVED that the Planning Board favorably recommends
to the Town Board this proposed amendment. The Planning
Board feels this amendment is very necessary in cases of large
older dwellings which are too large for one family use but
perfectly suitable for .two families. It should be pointed
out that on March 8, 1962 the Planning Board favorably
recommended a similar amendmentto the Building Zone Ordinance.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Wickham~ Mr. Moisa~ Mr.
Young, and Mr. unkelbaCho
The next meeting ofthe Southold Town Planning Board
will be held 7:~0 P~Mo~ Tuesday, April 14z 1964 at the Town
Office,~ Main Roadz Southold, New York.
Meeting adjourned at 10:00 P.M.
John wickham, chairman
Respectfully s ubmitted~
Judith T. Boken,. Secretary