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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPB-06/30/1964Southold Town Planning Board !BOIITHOLD, L. 1., N. Y. PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS 3ohn Wickhern, Chairmen Henry Molse ^l~red Grebe ArcMbnld Young %~/il li~ m U nl~¢lb~ch MINUTES SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD June 30, 1964 A regular meeting of the Southold Town Planning Board was held 7:30 P.M., Tuesday, JUh~ 30, 1964, At the Town Office, Main Road,.Southold, New York. There were present: Messrs: Archibald Young, Acting Chairman, Henry Moisa, Alfred Grebe, William Unkelbach, John Wickham came to the meeting at 7:50 P.M. There were also present: Mr. Otto Van Tuyl, Consultant, and Mr. Howard Terry, Building Inspector. PUBLIC P~.ARING: On the question of approval of the following plat: Plat of property owned by Henry Smith, entitled Peconic Homes at Peconic, consisting of a parcel of land of approximately 21.62 acres, situated at Peconic, in the Town of'Southold, Suffolk-County, New York, and bounded and described as follows: Beginning at a point on thennortherly Side of North Road where the same is intersected by the westerly side of land now Or formerly of J. or Vincent'Simeoni formerly William B. Codling and from said point of beginning running thence along the northerly side of North Road the following courses and distances: (1) South 60 degrees 15 minutes 20 sects West 43.29 feet; (2) South 61 degrees 04 minutes 50 seconds West 257.75 feet to land now or formerly of'G. or H. Stepnoski; running thence along said land the following courses and distances: (1) North 44 degrees 08 minutes 40 seconds West 253.64 fee~ -2- Jun~30, 1964 Southold Town Planning Board~r~ (2) South 60 degrees 09 minutes W~st 100.30 feet to land now or formerly of George M.~ Williamson fol~merly Floyd W. Vail; running thence along said land the following courses and distances: (1) North 44 degrees 26 minutes 50 seconds West 457.63 feet; (2) North 36 degrees 27 minutes 50 seconds'West 169.85 feet; (3) North 45 degrees 17 minutes 10 seconds ~est 218 feet; (4) North 47 degrees 59 minutes 20 seconds West 1029.73 feet to land now or formerly of Frederick L. Hehn; running thence along said land North 44 degrees 53 minutes 30 seconds East 518.49 feet to land now or formerly of Leslie, formerly'William B. Codling; running thence along said land and along land now or formerly of M. Gowan formerly William B. Codling and along land now or formerly of~Prudential Lumber ~o. formerlyWilliam B. Codling and along land now or formerly of J. Or Vincent~Simeoni formerly~William B. Codling South 42 degrees, 09 minutes 30 seconds East 2238.22 feet to the northerly side of North Road at the point or place of beginning. The Chairman read the application for the subdivision, notice of hearing, and affidavit attesting to its publication in the official newspaper. He also read letter-of approval of the road layout from the Superintendent of Highways. THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who would like to speak in opposition oto this subdivision? Mr. Nelson Axien, an adjoining property owner looked at the map of the subdivision, but did not say anything. THE'CHAIRMAN: Are there anyquestions you would like to ask about this subdivision? NELSON AXIEN: No. THE CHAIRMAN: Are there any others that would like to speak in opposition to this subdivision? (There was no response.) THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who would like to speak in favor of this subdivision? LEFFER. TSP. EDSON,ESQ.:Having complied with~-all the requirements, and making the suggested changed for the final map, I ask that the Board give approval to this subdivision. The only thing I am not sureabout is the setting of the bond. Southotd Town Plan~ning Board -3- Jun~3 0, 1964 HOWARD TERRY: Larry is going to bring the final estimates for the bond . He said he would be here by 7:30. He should be here soon. LEFFERTS P. EDSON,ESQ.: Then I will ask approval subject to the setting of the amount of the bond, and the completion of the roads. THE'CHAIRMAN: Anyone else wish to speak in connection with this subdivision? (There was no response.) The CHAIRMAN: Then I will close the hearing at'this time, and the Board will make their decision later this evening. TWo representatives of the Thomas F. Daly~'Estate appeared before the Planning Board to discuss the layout of property. The~ first thing discussed was~the access roads. The Board advised them that the :roads would have to have turn arounds, so that'fire, emergency and snow equipment would have ample room to turn around. There is presently a private road in the estate which they wish to keep private. The Board ~id not look on this favorably. They ~w~9~a~ed that usually the road is notmaintained properly. Also the Board must look into the future when the land might change ownership, and nomo/~ewants to keep up the road. The Board advised the representatives that they would have to put up a bond that water will be put in. Not all the lots have to have water at the smae time, but.muSt~have water in order to sell them. They discussed the possibility of changing the lot size. The Board advised that the lot size cannot be changed once a map is filed, however, 1½ lot may be Sotd to one person. The Board advised that they file a map for a subdivision and fill out the necessary application forms. Southold Town Planning Board -4- June 30, 1964 Mr. Wickham took charge of the meeting at 8:30 P.M, The Board next looked at the application of lIsland's End Golf and Country.Club for a chage of zone from "A" Residential and Agricultural District to "B" Business District. The Board asked Ernest-Wiggins and Floyd King to attend this meeting to express their views on this change of zone. The Chairman explained that no recommendation had been made to the Town Board as yet because the Board felt that they should have the opinion of the owners of the land before making a recommendation. Mr. King wanted to know the ~histroy of the application. He said he was originally asked to go along with 100 acres. The Chairman advised him that the Planning Board has never approved anything over 20 acres and don't expect to. The. Chairman also explained thatthe Planning Board only makes the recommendation and does not make the final decision in a change of zone. Mr. King wanted to know the size of the property in question for'a change of zone. The Chairman read the legal description to him, describing the property in question. The Board, Mr. King and Howard Terry discussed the percentage of the business that was done with the public. It was determined that the club is doing business mainly for the public. The Board looked at a brochure sent out by Island's End Golf & Country.Club inviting the public to enjoy their facilities. The Board felt that the owner of the property, should make the application for the change or'at least sign the petition. Mr. King stated that he was asked to sign the petition by he refused. Mr. King also felt that a golf club should be in a residential area. However, Island's End Golf and Country.Club also has a restaurant and bar which is being~an for business~ There was condern over the fact'that if this is zoned business, any type of business could be put there at a later date. The Board and Mr. King held a discussion on what classified it as a business. They advised him thatwhen the public'were bought in off the road, it is a business. It was bought out that the club is advertising in newspapers, invitif~the'public to the club, and they also have a sign, plus the brochure that was brought out ear'lief in the discussion. Mr. and Mrs. LeRoy B~Dwn were also present at'the meeting to express their concern. Mr. Brown was concerned were the parking lot would be located. The noise of ~La~gddoors, etc. would affect Southold Town Planning Board -5- June 30, 1964 his business. Mr. Young brought out the fact that Island's End Golf ~ Country Club have to have their property rights. In order to have this property zoned business, it would have to have a public hearing bythe Town Board. Mr. Brown would be g~n a chance then to express his concern. Mr. Wiggins alsO stated that he did not want the property zoned business. Mr. Unkelbach again brought out the fact that~the application should be signed by the'Owners of the land. Mrs. AeRoy Brown suggested that maybe there was something in the contract Which permitted the golf club to ask for~a change of zone without the permission or signature of the owners. The discussion ended and the'Chairman thanked Mr. Wiggins and Mr. King for attending the ~meeting and giving their opinons. The Board looked at the estimate for bond for ~Qads for Henry Smith, Peconic Homes, as submitted by-Lawrence Tuthill. Mr. Tuthill recommended a bond of $10,000.00. On motion by Mr. Moisa, seconded by Mr. Young, it was RESOLVED that approval be given to Henry, Smith's subdivision Peconic Homes, and approval be given to the estimate for the bond for the r~ads with a 25%~to 50% increase above estimate. Vote of the Board: Ayes: Mr. Wickham, Mr. Moisa, Mr. Young, Mr. unkelbach, Mr. Grebe. The Board looked at the estimate for bond for roads for ChristIStratakis, Sterling Homes,~ as submitted by-Lawrence Tuthill. Mr. Tuthill recommended a bond of $6,000.00. On motion by Mr. Moisa, seconded by Mr. Grebe, it was RESOLVED that approval be given to Christ-.Stratakis's subdivision Sterling Homes, and approval be given to the estimate for the bond for the roads with a 25% to 5~ increase above estimate. vote of the Board: Ayes: Mr. Wickham, Mr. Moisa, Mr. Young, Mr. Unkelbach, Mr. Grebe. $outhold Town Planning Board ,6, June 30, 1964 The Board next b~iefly discussed Eastwood Estates, Section II. The applicant~'s would like to get. this subdivision underway. Mr. Van Tuyl is already to go ahead and make the final maps. The Board briefly discussed the water and sewage problem. The Board considered the application for a change of zone from Island's End Golf and Country Club, Greenport, New York. This request was for a Change from "A" Residential and Agricultural District to "B" Business District on property located in Greenport, New'York, and more particularly bounded and described as follows: Beginning at a concret~ monument on thenortherly line of the Main Road at the sou~th- easterly corner of land of Ernest~Wiggins and the southwesterly corner of land of Floyd King; from's~id point of beginning running along said land of Wiggins, north 36' 04' 00" west, 300 feet; thence along s~id land of Floyd King, north 66° 39' 50" east, 190.61 feet to land of Wayland Brown; thence along said land of-Wayland Brown, south 36° 03' 40" east, 106.84 feet; thence along land of!LeRoy Brown, south 33: 45' 40" east, 193.16 feet to sa~d northerly line of the Main Road; thenc( along said northerly line, south 67~ 08' 30" west, 183.0 feet to the point or place of beginning. On motion byMr. Wickham, seconded by Mr. unkelbach, it was RESOLVED that the Planning Board does not recommend to the Town Board the change of zone from "A" Residential and~Agricultural District to "B"'Business District on the property of Island's End Golf and Country Club at Greenport, as described above, for the following reasons 1. This is a residential area and there is at present ~no other "B" Business District near by, and if granted this would constitute spot zoning. 2. Judging bythe informal discussions with the residents in the area at previous meetings of the Planning Board, they are opposed to a business being conducted in this area. 3.-We beleive that there is a very real question about'the ~alidity of this application, in view of the fact that'the owners of this property did not join in the application. vote~of the Board: Ayes: Mr. Wickham, Mr. Moisa, Mr. Youngz Mr. unkelbach, Mr. Grebe. Southold Town Planning Board -7- Jun~ 30, 1964 On motion by Mr. Moisa, seconded by Mr. Unkelbach, it was RESOLVED thatthe minutes of the Southold Town Planning Board, dated June 9, 1964, be approved as submitted. Vote of the Board: Ayes: Mr. Wickham, Mr. Moisa, Mr. Young, Mr. Unkelbach, Mr. Grebe. The Board briefly discussed.inviting Shelter Island Planning Board to attend one of their meetings. This will be done sometime in the near future. A letter was written to Supervisor Evans Griffin, Shelter Islandt advising him of the Southold Town Planning Board's interest in his proposal to divide the county. The planning Board advised him that they would like to know more about this plan. The next meeting of the Southold Town'Planning Board will be held 7:30 P.M., Monday, July 13, 1964, at,the Town Office, Main Road, Southold, New York, Meeting adjourned 10:00 ~.M. John Wickham, Chairman Respectfully submitted, / Barbara L. Carroza, Secretary