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-c;OUTHDLD, L. I., N. Y.
PLANN I NG BOARD
MEMBERS
,John T/~¢lchern. C.%irrnan
Henry Moisa
Alfred Grebe
Archibald Young
T/illi~rn U nl~elbach
MINUTES
SOUTHOLD TOWN'PLANNING BOARD
November 24, 1964
A regular meeting of the Southold Town Planning Board
was held at '7:30 P,~M~, Tuesday,': November 24, 1964,~ at the
Town Office~ Main Road, Southoid~ New York.
There were present: Messrs: Archibald~Young, Acting'Chairman,
Henry Moisa, Alfred Grebe, William Unkelbach, john Wickham.
THERE were also present: Messrs: OttO Van Tuyl~.~Consultant;
Howard Terryt Building Inspector; Lawrence Tuthill, Engineer.
Lefferts Edson, Esq., and Mr. Schneiderappeared before the
Board to discuss the preliminary map ora proposed subdivision
to be known as "Eastern shores at Greenport, Section II", map
by OttO Van T~yl &'-Son, datedNovember 18, 1964. This property
is located on the Middle Road, Greenport, New York, and is an
extension of the subdivision "Eastern shores at Greenport; Section
I". This subdivision will contain 17 lots of 12,~500 square feet
and up.
Lenghty discussion was held on thematter of setting
aside an area for recreational purposes. When Section I of
this subdivision was filed, the subdivider was instmucted to
submit a letter of inten~ to the Planning Board, indicating
that they .intended to dedicate an area of 100';by 100' on
the shore in the next section of their subdivision to the'west,
The owners indicated that theywould probably dedicate four
acres to the west for the purpose of recreation and beach facilities.
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Both the Board and Mr~ Edson agreed to have t~e Planning
Board make a proposal thatwouldmake real the existence of a
recreational area in"Eastern Shores at Greenport".
On motion by-Mr. Wickham,~ Seconded by'Mr. Moisa, itwas
RESOLVED that Mr. Schneider be given approval of his
subdivision to be known as "Eastern Shores at Greenport, Section
II". This will be preliminary approval~ Map byOtto Van Tuyl
&'-Son, dated November 18, 1964.
This approval is subjectto a proposal that will set aside
an area in the subdivision for recreational purposes.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Mro Young, Mro Moisa, Mr. Grebe~
Mr. Unkelbach, Mr° Wickham.
Lefferts Edson, Esq.¢ again appeared before the Board to
discuss the preliminary map of a proposed subdivision to be
known as "Village Gardens"¢ map by Otto Van Tuyl &'~Son, dated
November 23, 1964. This property,~ located in Southold,. is
owned and developed by Benjamin and Ira Selv~n,. 74-Wagon Road,~
Rosyln Heights, New York. This subdivision will contain 62
lots of 12~!500 square feet and up. The subdivision will also
have city-water.
On motion by Mr. Moisa, seconded by-Mr. Unkelbach~. it was
RESOLVED that-Benjamin and Ira Selvin be given preliminary
approval of their~subdivision to be known as ViIlage Gardens.
Map by'Otto Van Tuyl & Son, Dated November 23,. 1964o
Vote of the Board: Ayes= Mr° Young, MrS. Moisa, Mr~ Grebe,
Mr. Unkelbach, Mr.-Wickhamo
Mr. Young felt that some of the turn arounds in "Village
Gardens" could be elimin-ated. He felt~that the highway super-
intendent might not approve all'the,turn aroundSo The possibility
Of the'subdivider securing property from George.Braun; in order
to have access to theMiddle Road was briefly discussed°
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Mr.~.Walter Kapp, Esq., appeared before the~Board to ask
that the~requirements for the dedication of a road, in regard
to the assessed valuation on the road, be waived for a road
341.75 feet olong on the west side of OaklawnAvenue, $outhold,
New Y~rk. The Board viewed the survey by-Otto Van Tuyl &Son~
dated April 1, 1964, revised July 3, 1964.
On motion by'Mr. L~kelbach, seconded by Mr. Young, it was
RESOLVED that the planning Board recommend to the Town
Board that the requirements for the assessed v~lUa~ion required
on a road in order to dedicate to the Town, be waived by request
of'Walter-Kapp, Esq., on a r~add341.75 feet long on the west
side of~Oaklawn Avenue, Southold,: New York.
Vote.of the Board: Ayes: Mr. Young~ Mr. Grebe. Mr. Moisa~
Mr. Unkelbach, Mr. Wickham
Mr. Julius Zebroski next appeared before the Board. He
presented a map of a proposed subdivision to be located.-on
Bayview Road, Southold, New York, This subdiv~ision will con-
tain approximately 28 lots to be '12,500 square feet~and upe
Mr. Zebroski also requested approval of the road~~ Waterview
Drive, m road in the subdivision.
On motion by Mr. Wickham, seconded by Mr. young, it was
RESOLVED that-Julius~Zebroski be given tentative-approval
of a proposed ~subdivision to be locatedBayview Road, Southold,
New York. It-was further-RESOLVED thatthey layout of the road
-WaterviewDrive also be approve.
vote of the Board: Ayes:-Mr. Young, Mr. Moisa, Mr. Grebe,
Mr. L%akelbach, Mr-.Wickham
Mr. Clement'Booth presented his finalapplication for
approval ofpla~to the'Planning Board. This subdivision,
entitled Melrose Manor, will contain 13 lots of 12~500 square
feet and up. This subdivision will have water supply from
the Village of Greenport if arrangements may 'be made to
extend the water pipes to his subdivision.
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On motion by'Mr~ Wickham~. seconded byMr. Moisa, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board set the last
meeting in December, 1964~ as the date for a public hearing on
Clement Booth's subdivision to .be known as Melrose Manor, subject
to a contract with~ the Greenport water 'Company, and the approval
of the County Health Board.
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Vote .of the Board:-Ayes:Mr. Young., M_r. Moisa~ Mr. Grebe,
Mr. Unkelbach, Mr. Wickham
Joseph P. Hoey and Thomas F. Daly appeared before the
Planning Board to discuss the preliminary map of a subdivision
to be known as Town Harbor Terrace, map by Otto Van Tuyl and
Son, dated November 16~ 1~64. This subdivision is located on
Town Harbor'Road,. Southold. It-will contain 15 lo~s of 12,500
square feet and up. There will be a 100 foot turnaround' at
Hippodrome C r e e~2~
There was lenghty discussion concerning the turnaround at
Hi~i~gdromeCreek. Mr, Wickham made it very clear that~access
to ~ippodrome Creek~ was definitely required. This was discussed
previously with the parties involved. Mr. ~ickham felt~that to
have a turnaround would be no hardships, since there is an over-
sized lot on Hippodrome Creek. Mr.~ Daly advised that they had
people interested in large lots. Mr. Wickham felt there lwas
enough frontage on Hippodrome Creek to require access to the
CreeSe
Qn motion by Mr. lWiCkham~ seconded by'Mr~ Moisa, it was
RE$OAVED that preliminary approval be given to Joseph
P.~e@~ and Thomas F.~ Daly on the subdivision to be known
-as "Town Harbor~Terrace"w mapby'Otto Vanl Tuyl &~,$on~ dated
NOVember 16~ 1964. It Was further RESOLVED that a hearing
will be set for this subdivision as soon as ir'meets the
requirements of the'Superintendent~of Hi~hways~CountyBoard
of Health~ and~there is a contractwith the Greenport.Water
~Company ~Dr'water mains.
Vote of-the Board: Ayes:~l~r. Young, Mr. Moisa, Mr, Grebe,
Mr. Unkelbach, Mr.~Wickham
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Mr. Wickham brought to the attention of the Board the
amount of storm~waters that are wasted and not returned to
the land. He 'requested permission from the Board to write
to the'~istrict. Engineer and the Departmentof Public Works
to express his concern in this matter.
On motion byMr~ Moisa~ seconded by-Mr. Grebe, it was
RESOLVED that the~Sou-thold Town Planning Board authorize
Mr~ John Wickhamto.write to the District Engineer and the
Department of Public Works to express concern in the matter of
the amount of storm waters that are wasted.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:-Mr. '~oung~ Mr, Moisa,'~ Mr. Grebe,
Mr. Unkelbach.
Mr. Wickham felt that it was necessary to check on the
subdividers who had promised to dedicate the roads in their
subdivisions to the Town,~ but~have never done anything about
dedication. It was felt that a letter should be sent'to
these subdividers requesting that they make some dispostion
as to what they will do with these roads, and when they-will
dedicate to the Town~ Mr. Wickham als0 felt that-no building
permits shouldbe issu~in these subdivisions until the roads
are in good conditions.
~ On motion by Mrl Wickha~, seconded by'Mr. Grebe, it was
RESOLVED that-a letter'be sent to all subdividerswho
promised to dedicate roads to the TOWn but ha~e not yet~done
so. This letter would require subdividers to make some
disposition of What they plannto do about-dedication to the
Town within the nextsix months.
It was further'RESOLVED that in all cases where the'Planning
Boardhas waived performance bonds~bythe statement of the
subdivider'~that.they-would dedicate to the Town,i theBuil~ing
Inspector is instructed not to issue building permits without
the explicit authorization of the Planning Board, pending the
inspection of the high~ay by the Planning Board.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Mrl Young~ Mrii-Moisa, Mr~ Grebe,
Mr. Unkelbach~Mr.~ Wickham.
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On motion by Mr. Moisa~ seconded by Mr. Unkelbach~ it~was
RESOLVED that the Planning Board authorize Lawrence Tuthill~
Professional Engineer~ to do estimates forbonds for roads on
the .roads in the subdivisions~ Town HarborlTerrace~ Southold,
New York,, and.MelroseManor~ Southold~ New York.
vote of the'Board: Ayes:~Nlr. ¥oung~ Mr. Moisa, Mr' Grebe,
Mr. unkelbach~Mr. Wickham.
The Boardbriefly discussed making stronger restriction
in connection with the development of waterfront property.
- On motion by Mr. Wickham~ seconded by'Mr. Moisa,. it was
RESOLVED Thatthe Planning Bra rd notify' the Town Board and
the Town Trustees that theyare contemplating a change in the
rules andregulations for the subdivision of land inconnection
with man-:made canals and that theywill probabtyspecify
mininumwidth and depth and m~ximum. Also 'that the' nnder~water
lines to these canals be dedicated .to the Town and finally the
Planning Board would want the Town Trustees to establish a pier
and bulkhead line on suCh man made canals.
Vote of ~he Board: Ayes: Mr. Young~i Mr. Moisa~ Mr. Grebe~
Mr. unkelbach~andMr. Wickham.
ThePlanning Board received from the Town BOarda petition
of zone :al
"Business'District byJohn M.
an official report defin~g the conditions
and detezmine the area so effected
with the recommendation of the Planning Board. This request
is made for3a nursing home. This property is bounded and
describedas follows:
Beginning at'a concrete monument seton the southerly line.
of Main Road~ at the northeasterly corner of land or'Long Island
Ice and Fuel.Corp~ and running thence~along isaid line of Main
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Road North 52" 02~ 10, East~ 717.20 feet to a concrete monument
and land of~Frank~ Murphy; ~thence along said land of Murphy,s- South
21° 04~ 50''~ East~ 513.03 feet to a concrete 'monument set on the
northerly line of Old Main Road; thence along said line of Old
Main Road~. two courses as follows: ~l) South 560 57' 20" ~est~
28.88 fee~; thence f2) South 84° 42~ 10" West,. '~288'. 26 feet to
an iron pipe and land of Frank Nawrocki; thence along said
land of Nawrocki~ three courses as follows: fl) North 9° 59~ 10"
West~, 268.88 fee~ to an iron_pipe; thence ~'2)' South 52* 13' 40"
West.,~ 191,51 feet to an iron pipe; thence .'(3) South 16° 26,~ 40,'
East~ 168.34 feet to a concrete post set on the northerly line of
O14 Main Road; thence along said line of~Old Main Road South
88~ 34~ 50" west 2~6.14 feet to a concrete monument and said land
of Long Island Ice and Fuel Corp,; thence along said land North
23~ 00' 50" west 108.53 feet to the point of beginning. Containing
4.269 acres.
On motion by Mr. Wickham, seconded bp Mr. Grebe~ it was
RESOLVED that the Planning Board favorably.recommend to
the Town Board the change of zone from~"A" Residential and
-AgriculturalDistrict to "B" Business District on the property
or.John M. Rodden as described above.
The Board feels that this is an ideal location for a
nursing home, .in view of the fact that.access may-be obtained
from the'old'Main Road. The Board also feels that this is
a mu~%Caneeded used in the Town of~Southold.
The Planning Board also recommends to the Town Board
that~the properties adjoining this particular piece of
property-be xz~ned"B" BUsiness District.
Vote of.the Board:-Ayes: F~r. Young, Mr. Moisa, Mr. Grebe,
Unkelbach, Mr. Wickham.
The~i~lann'~ing Board reviewed theapplication for~a change
of zone by-the Town Boar~own motion on the property or,cove
Beach Estates from "B" Business Distmict'to."A" Residential
and Agziculturat District~and from~"B" Business~District~to
"M" Multiple Residence. This property'will.be used for a
Motel Resort Site, This property is, bounded and'described
as follows:
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On motion by'Mr.~ Wickham, se~o~db~y Mr. Grebe, it was
RESOLVED that the Planning Board recommend to the Town Board
the change of zone from "B" Business District to "A" Residential
and Agricultural Districtand from "B" Business~District to"M"
Multiple Residence on property of'Cove Beach Estates, as herein
described.
The Planning Board held a lenghty discussion with the
president ofCove Beach'Estates and the Supervisor was also
present at this meeting to discuss the change of zone. This
change of zone meets the approval of all parties involved.
Vote ~f the Board: Ayes:-Mr. Young, Mr. Moisa, Mr. Grebe,
Mr. Unk~lbach, Mr. Wickham.
On motion by Mr. Moisa, seconded by Mr. Grebe, it was
RESOLVED that the minutes of-the Southold TownPlanning
Board dated 4~htof November, 1964, beapproved as submitted.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:-Mr. Young,Mr. Moisa, Mr, Grebe,
Mr.'~akelbach, Mr. Wickham.
The Board again viewed the mapof the proposed subdivision
"Blue Horizons", owned and developedby-CjP,F. Land-Corp. This
subdivision is located off the North Road, Peconic, New York.
This subdivision will contain 11 lots of 12,500 square feet and
up.
On motion by Mr. Wickham, seconded by Mr. Young, it'was
RESOLVED that t~ative approval be given to the subdivieion
to be known as "BLue Horizons", map by'Otto Van Tuyl & Son,
dated.October 14, 1964. It.was further RESOLVED that the maps
be sent to the'County Planning Board for approval of access on
the North Road.
Vote of the Board: AYES: Mr. Young~ Mr. Moisa, Mr. Grebe,
Mr. ~nk~lbach~ Mr.-Wickham.
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On motion by Mr. Grebe, seconded by Mr..Moisa, it'was
RESOLVED that the Planning Board recommend to the TOWn
Board an estimated performance bond of~$3,000. O0 for~the
roads in the subdivision to be know as "Blue Horizons", owned
and developed by~C~pjF.~ Land'Corp.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Mr. Young, Mr. Moisa, Mr. Grebe,
Unkelbach, Mr. Wickham.
On motion by Mr. Grebe, seconded by Mr. Young, it was
RESOLVED that the Planning Board-set 7:30 Pj~,', Monday,
December 14, 1964, at the Town Office, Main~Road,. Southold,
New York, as time 'and place for hearing upon the question of
~approval of the following plat:
1. Plat of property owned byFrank-Zaleski, entitled
-Deep Hole Creek Estates, consisting of a Parcel of land of
39.40 acres, situated ab Mattituck, in the Town of~Southold,
Suffolk:County, New York, and bounded and described as
follows:
Beginningat the intereection of the southerly ~ine O~
New Suffolk-Ave., with the westerly line ofthe East Branch
of Deep Hole Drive, from said point of beginning.running
along said westerly line, four'courses: (1} S. 5040'30" W.-
131.88 feet; thence (2) S. 1° 20' 10" W.~1232.14'feet;~. thence
{3) S. 4° 54' 00" W.-242.72 ~eet; 'thence (4) S. 16° 02' 20"
W.~276.1~~ feet; thence alon~ landor Frank-'Zaleski, two
courses: .(t) N. 83° 20~ 40" W.-519.80 feet; thence ~(2') N.
43~ 12~ 20" W.-169.47 feet;' thence along said land of!Z~leski
anld alOng the several, lands~of Grady, Hagglund, and-Abitz,
N. 30~ 11" 20" W.-360.80 feet to the southerly line of
Richards S~eet; thence along saidsoutherly l~ine~s. ,64° 04'
50~' W.-150.42 feet 'to the easterly line of'West~Branch Of
Deep Hole'.Drive; thence:along said easter-ly line N. 30~ 11~
20, W.-50~14 feet;-thence-alOng, northerly line or, said'
Richards~:S%reet$ N. 64° 04'"~50'' E.~140.0 feet; thence along
land:of Drumm N. 32~ 34~ 00" W,-74~62 feet; thence along' ~and
of Posnowski~tm~ courses: (1) N. 13° 35" 20" W.-100.00 feet;
thence (2) N. 2~ 21' 40" E.-81.53 feet;.'thence along s~other
land of said Fr~nk-Zaleski and along the several land of Topping,
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Taborski, Cain, Flurry,~ Flower, Becket, and J.~ Zaleski, N.
2° 40~ 40" E~ l'000.0 feet; thence along land of Hampton
Homes and land of Hansen, S. 87.~ 19~ 20" E.-182.0 feet to
the westerly~ line of Theresa DriVe; thence along S~id .westerly
line N. 2° 40' 40" E.~-174.41 feet to said southerly line of
New' Suffolk Ave.-, thence along~ said southerly line, three
courses: ~(1) S. 81e 53' 50" E.-6.15 feet; thence i(2) S. 85°
08' 00" E.-738.67 feet; thence i~3) S. 84~ 19' 30" E.-68.86 feet
to the point of beginning, containing 39.40 acres.
Vote of the Board:. Ayes: Mr. Young, Mr. Moisa~ Mr. Grebe,
Mr. Unkelbach, Mr2 Wickham.
On motion by'Mr. Grebe, seconded by'Mr. Unkelbach, it was
RESOLVED that the Planning Board recommend to the Town
Board a performance bond of $30,000.00 for the roads in the
subdivision to be known as "Deep Hole Creek~Estates'' owned
and developed by-Frank Zaleski.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Mr. Young, Mr. Moisa, Mr~ Grebe,
Mr. unk~lbach,~Mr. Wickham.
The Planning Board againtook up the matter of Eastern
Shores, Section II. There was brief discussion in relation
to the location ~of the park and playg~Dundarea.
On motion by/Mr. Wickham~. seconded byMr. Grebel .it was
RESOLVED that a letter be sent to Lefferts P, Edson, Esq.,
attorney-for'Mr. Schne:ider~ advising himthatthe Board.will
approve the s~bdivision to be knownaas Easter~Shores~ Section
II. The Board will require two.and.one-half i~) acres of the
low area on the west side'of~the new road to be somewhat d~edged
and lad scaped~forlpark area. The Board will also require 200-
300 feet of access to salt-water.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Mrl Young,' Mr. Moisa~ Mr. Grebe~
Mr. ~nkelbach~ Mr. Wickham
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The following is a description for. Cove Beach Estates,
East Marion, New York.
PARCEL I -Change from "B" Business District. Go "A" Residential
and Agricultural District°
Beginning at 'the southwesterly, corner of the present "B"
Zone adjoining land of Lathamand others on the South, andland
of Guimaraes on the west, from~said point of beginning running
along said land of Guimaraes N& 11° 26a W. 1095.0 feet; thence
four courses as follows: (1) N. 78~' 34" Eo-387o87 feet; thence
(2) S. 56° 26' Eo-300o0 feet; thence (3) S. 11° 26' E.-l150 feet
more or less ~o the southerly corner.of the pr~sent'"B" Zone;
thence (4) northwesterly 350 feet more or less;'thence along
said land ofLatham~and others So 74° 17' 40" W.-450 feet more
or less to the point of beginning.
PARCEL II -Change from "B" Business District to "A" REsidential
and Agricultural District°
Ail that tract or parcel of land situate, lying and being
at-East Marion~ in the Town of Southold, in the County'of'Suffolk,
and state of New York, bounded on the north by land of Cove Beach
Estates, InCo, on the east by land of Fred Tabor, on the south
by land of Joseph Boken, and on the west by landof~Cove Beach
Estates, InCo
PARCEL III - Change from "B" Busies Districtto "M" Multiple
Residence°
Beginning at a point on the ordinary high water mark of
Long Is~b/%d So~nd at the northwesterly corner of the present
"B" Zone adjoining land of Guimarae~; from said point of beginning
running easterly along said high'water mark 650 feet more or
less; thence two courses as follows: (1) S. 33° 34' W.-400 feet
more or less; thence (2) S. 78° 34~ Wo~ 387°87 fee~; thence along
said land of Guimaraes No 11° ~6~ W.-350 feet more or less to the
pointof beginning.
PARCEL IV -Change from "B" Business District to "M" Multiple
Residence
Beginning at a point on the ordinary high watermark of
'Long Island sound 300 feet northwesterly along said high water
mark from point where said high water mark is intersected by
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southeasterly line of the present "B" Zone; from said point of
beginning running four courses as follows: (1) S. 33° 34' W.-
250 feet more or less; thence (2) N. 56° 26' W.-350.0 feet; thence
(3) N. 11° 26' W.-300.0 feet; thence (4) N. 33° 34' E.-350 feet
more or less to said ordinary high water mark Of Long Island
Sound; thence southeasterly along said high water mark 700 feet
more or less to the point of beginning.
The next meeting of the Southold Town Planning Board will
be held at 7:30 P.M., Monday, ~ecember 14, 1964, at the Town
Office, Main Road, Southold, New York.
Meeting adjourned 10:55 P.M.'
Respectfully submitted,
Barbara L. Carroza, Secretary
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Archibald Young, Acting Chairman