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SE1UTHDLD, L. I., N.Y.
PLANNING BOARD
MEMBERS
John ~./ickham, Choirmon
l-lznr¥ Moiso
Alfred '~rebe
Archibald Young
~illiam Unkelbecb
JOINTMEETING
SOUTHOLD TOWN PId%NNING BOARD
GREENPORT VILLAGE PLANNING BOARD
May 21, 1963
A joint meeting of the Southold Town Planning Board and the
Greenport Village Planning Board was held 7:30 P.M., Tuesday, May
21, 1963 at the Town Office, Main Road, Southold, New York for the
purpose of discussing a master plan.
There were present: Southold Town Planning Board: John Wickham,
Chairman, Henry Moisa, Alfred Grebe, Archibald Young, and William
Unkelbach.
Greenport Village Planning Board: Messrs. John Sherwood,
Chairman, Bernard Van Popering and Harry Monsell.
Also present: Supervisor'Lester M. Albertson, Consultant
~Otto W. Van Tuyl and Building Inspector Howard Terry.
Special Guests: Messrs. Robert Carlson, David Rodetsky and
Adam Krivatsky members of the Brown and Anthony staff.
Mr. Wickham opened the meeting by reviewing the position of
Southold Town in agriculture (the second in the State), also the
shellfish industry, shoref~Dnt, fresh water resources, summer
residents and tourists. He feels the most essential is a careful
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study of agriculture and water. He then asked the members from
Brown and Anthony to explain their qualifications and outline their
program.
Mr. Adam Krivatsky stated that he has done work in Woodstock
area. Bm~ is a P.E. consultant and Dr. Anthony is the head of
planning at Columbia. Twelve members of their staff have a masters
degree in planning. They have done twenty-five 701 projects in the
State of New York and know Mr. Charles Crangte. They have done East
Greenbush, Corning and Athens and are now working in'Jersey. They
want to work in aesthetics as well as planning.
Both Brpwn and Anthony are highway and sanitary engineers. They
have worked in foreigh countries as expert special engineers to do
highway and water and sewers. Their engineers have contacts in each
special field.
They showed revised plans of Woodstock, New York and stated they
rely a great deal on the people of the community to lay out policies
and plans. They hold community meetings once a month and special
meetings with officials and planning board members. They feel Wood-
stock is the nearest to Southold Town that they have done.
Mr. Rodetsky described the development of Woodstock which has a
population of about 2000 and is near Kingston and the Thruway. They
had subdivision expansion trouble but got control of everything by
financing it themselves. The project was done in one year. They
held a lot of meetings, of which some ran smoothly and some were
rough. They changed roads, had new zoning, large and small lots
mixed. There is an artists colony, etc. mixed in farm area. They
set up density of p~!pulation~ales and made maps. Topographic and
drainage, soil and grade maps, watershed map, wooded area map (special
for agriculture an~ location of lumber, etc.) land use map -trans-
portation and circulation. They made a special study of assets and
problems of the community, utilities and danger spots and gave
distribution of suggestions and plans to the public° They prepared
a downtown plan with parking, etc. and had a tree map for the streets.
Mr. Robert-CarlSon stated that he has been with the Huntington
Planning Board for eight years as a consultant and is a landscape
architect. He knows all the State and County officials in this rea.
Huntington has a population of 150,000 at this time and they did not
follow the master plan laid out in 1934. He cited mistakes and future
problems Southold can expect.
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Supervisor Albertson asked what other places nearby they have
done and Mr. Carlson stated Plattsburg, Painted Post and the City
of Corning and towns and villages surrounding it, as well as Atlantic
Highlands, New Jersey and Ellenville,New York. They will supply all
of the required material of the 701 plan and can specialize study if
necessary. Mr. Carlson would do most of the work.
Mr. Unkelbach wished to know if the basic fee would cover the
water survey cost and he was advised that they can't go too much on
one item and they can't do a real study under a 701 program.
Mr. Wickham reviewed our subdivision problems and our development
to date and stated that water and sewer are too expensive for us. Mr.
Rodetsky stated they can have a special engineer do a water survey if
$outhold wants it included. Mr. Monsell gave ideas on water and
conservation of shorefront and woodland areas.
MR. Rodetsky described the 702 program where the government
loans funds for study and engineering for utilities (water and s~ewer).
There was a general discussion on water supply and distribution systems.
Mr. Sherwood asked for everything they could give under the 701
plan and the cost. Mr. Rodetsky explained the entire~program. (This
is the same as Raymond and May described.) They advised they would
supply a proposal based on the studies the Town would want.
Supervisor Albertson advised of our problems and stated they
expect the agency who does the work to give an intense study and
competent results are expected. Southold needs updated zoning and
growth plans and expanded ideas of increasing lot sizes, and other
means of hO~gdOWn population expansion and density of occupancy, etc.
Mr. Rodetsky advised that BT~n and Anthony can supply competent
personnel and will cooperate oneverything required in the Town as
far as 701 will go. They can do extra work for ~ fee. They gave a
list of the places they have worked and advised Southold should contact
them for references, They will sen~ a complete proposal.
The meeting adjourned at 10:00 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Howard Terry [