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SOUTHOLD, L. I., N.Y.
PLANNING BOARD
MEMBERS
Jb~,n ~/icl~ham Chairman
Henry h~oisa
Alfred Grebe
Archibald Young
"William 'U nketbach
M~INUTES
SOUTHOLD TOWN PLAb~ING BOARD
August 1, 1961
A regular meeting of the Southold Town Planning Board was
held 7:30 P.M., Tuesday, August 15 1961 at. thq Town Clerk-Office,
Main Road,.Southold, New York.
There were present: Messrs. John-Wickham, Chairman, Henry
Moisa, Alfred Grebe, Archibald Young, and William Unkelbach.
Also present: Messrs. Otto W. Van Tuyl, Consultant and
Howard M. Terry, Building Inspectorl
PUBLIC P~.ARING: On the question of approval of the follow-
ing plat: 1. Plat of property owned by~Southold DeVelopment
Corporation, entitled Fairview Park at SoUthold~ consisting of
a parcel of land of approximately 23.00 acres, situated at
Southold~ in the Town of Southold, ~ffolk~CoUnty~ New York, and
generally bonnded and described as ~ollows: Beginning at a point
on the southerly line of-Pine Neck Road at the northeasterly
corner of land formerly of Breitstadt and the northweSterly corner
of land formerly of'Leicht and running thenceatong the southerly
line of:Pine Neck Road, S.71°30"30"E. 50.09 feet; thence along
other land of:Southold DeveloPmentCorporation, four courses, as
follows: (1) S.14°59'30"W. 150.28 feet; thence (2) S. TI°31'30"E.
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296.30 feet; thence (3) S.80°47'10"E. 378.06 feet; thence (4)
N~9°40'40"E. 150.28 feet to the southerly line of said Pine
Neck Road; thence along said line of 'Pine Neck-Road, S.83°47'10"E.
50.09 feet to land ofWilliam E. Park; thence along said land of
William E. Park, two courses, as follows: (1) S. 9°40'40"w. 120.0
feet; thence (2) S.80°19'20"E. 160.0 feet to land of Breitstadt
Estate; thence along last described land, S. 9140'40"~. 1093~32
feet; thence along other land of Southold Development-Corp., four
courses, as follows: (1) N. 72°39'20"W. 579.3'2 feet; thence (2)
S. ll°37'10"W. 95.0 feet; thence (3) S.78°22'50"E. 50.0 feet;~ence
(4) S. ll°37'10"W. 100.0 feet-to land of'Alfred E. Dart; thence along
said land of Dart, three courses, as follows: (1) N.79°01'40"W.
37.44 feet; thence (2) N. 77°ll'30"W. 394.60 feet; thence (3)
N. 77°34'20"W. 46.39 feet to other land of Southold Development
Corp.; thence along last described land, four courses, as follows:
(1) N. 13~16'30"E. 159.65 feet; thence (2-) N. 12°40'30"E. 40.36
feet; thence (3) N.77°34'20"W. 318.41 feet; thence (4) N.73°51~00"W.
3:13.87 feet to the easterly line of'Main Bayview Road; thence along
s~d Main Bayview Road~ N. 18°56'50"E. 50.04 feet; thence along other
land of said Southold Development~Corp.~ four courses, as follows:
(!) So73°51'00"E- 309.80 feet; thence (2) S.77°34'20"E. 317.0 feet;
thence (3) N.!2~40'30"E. 259.80 feet; thence (4) N. 14°59'30"E.
698.80 feet to the point of beginning..
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading legal notice of
hearing with affidavit attesting to its publication in the official
newspaper.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
in favor of this proposed subdivision?
MR. WILLIAM SMITH, Southold, New York: I do.
T~E CHAIRMAN: As near aswe can determine~everything is in
order. You plan to have a performance bond on some of the highways
that you do not.plan to dedicate to'the Town yet?
MR. SMIT~I~ That is right.
THE CHA~: Is there~anyQne present'~who wishes to speak
in opposition to this proposed s~bd~isi~
(There was no responseo)
T~eChairman declared the hearing closed°
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On motion of Mr. Moisa, seconded by Mr. Grebe:
WHEREAS Southold_Devetopment-Corporation has. petitioned the
Southold Town Planning Board for final approvalof their plat
known as "Fairview Park~at SoUthold, Section I," Pine Neck~Road,
.Southold, New York,.and
WHEREAS the Southold Town Superintendent of Highways has
inspected the plat and found the highways in satisfac~®rY~con-
dition for reasonable access and in compliancewith 'the Highway
specifications of the Town of 3Southold, and his report is hereby
approved by the-Planning Board; and
WHEREAS the Southold Town Planning Board, pursuant to due
notice thereof, held a public hearing on the matter of approval
of the Plat at which time all interested persons were given an
opportunity to be heard, and
WHEREAS the Southold Town Planning Board waives the provision
in the Rules andRegulations for the Subdivision of Land requiring
park and playground area or cash equivalent;
NOW THEREFORE BE IT. RESOLVED that the subdivision to be known
as "FairView Park at~Southold, Section I," at-Rine Neck~Road~
Southold, New York, consisting 23.00 acres and owned b~Southold
Development~Corp~ration~ be approved on the basis that ifde~ication
of the highways to the Town of Southold is ~ot completed with!in
90 days from this date performance bond for their completion~will
be required.
This p~at is bounded and described
a point.on the s( ~rly line ef.~ine Neck
corner y of Breitstadt~and the
.cbt and running thence~'along
line or, pine NeCk~R~ad, S171°31"30"E. 50.0!
thence (3.) S.83°47~10"E. 378,06 feet; thence (~) 150.28
feet'to the southerly line thence along said
line or'Pine Neck~Road, S. 83°47'10"E. 50.09~ ?~William
E. Park; thence ~long said land of William~E. park, two courses, as
follows: [1) S, 9°40~40"W. 120.0 feet;' thence (2) S.80°i9'20"E~ 160.0
feet to land of Breitstadt Estate; thence along last describedland,
S.9040'40"W. 1093.32 feet; thence along other land of-Southold
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Corp., four courses as follows: (i)~ N. 72°39'20~'W. 579.32 feet;
thence (2) S.ll°37'10"W. 95.0 feet; thence (3) S.78°22'50"E. 50.0
feet; thence (4) S.11°37~10"W. 100.0 feet to land or,Alfred E.
Dart; thence along said land of Dart, three courses, as follows:
(1) N. 79°01'40"W. 37.44 feet; thence (2) N. 77°11'30'~. 394.60 feet;
thence (3) N. 77°34~20"W. 46.39 feet' to cther land o.f~SOuthold Develop-
merit-Corp., thence along last described ~aM~ four courses, as followS:
(1) N. 13°16'30"E~ 159.65 feet; thence (2) N~I2°40'-30"E.. 40.36 feet;
thence (3) N. 77°34'20"W. 318~41 feet; thence (4) N. 73°51'00"W., 313.87
feet'to the easterly line of Main Bayview Road; thence along said Main
~!rview Road, Ni18°56'50"E. 50.04 feet; thence along other land of Said
Southold Development'Corp., four courses, as follows: (t) ~S.73°51'00"E.
309.80 feet;' thence (2) S.77°34'20"E. 317.0 feet; thence (3)
259.80 feet; thence (4) N~14°59'30"E. 698.80 feet to the point of
beginning.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Wickham, Mr~ Moisa, Mr. Grebe,
Mr. Young, and Mr. Unkelbach.
Mr. George McMann again appeared before the Planning Board to
discuss Orient-By-The-Sea, section II. Mr. Mc~ann stated he is now
ready~tQc~tart construction on Sound View Drive and North Sea Drive,
however h~ would like to reach some agreement relative to the drainage
in the vicinity of lot no. 48.
After considerable discussion the following proposal was arrived
at: Two Standard catch basins on the south side of the road and on
the north side of the road a strip 10 ft. wide and 200 ft. long
excavated to Sandlot grave~ and back filled with gravel or bank-run
to make a flush drainage area. It was the thinking of the Board that
if there is a 30 ft. strip reserved for pavement there would be i0 ft.
on each side~ %o accomodate gutters, shoulders, etc. If the outside
5 ft. of this were to be used for this flush drainage area and in
addition 5 ft. of the lot frontage made available so that the right-
of-way at~.th~t p~int.would be 55 ft. instead 0f the normal 50 ft.,
it would seem~reasonable to the Planning Board.
TheP!aD3aing Board forwarded a letter to Harold Price, Superin-
tendent of Highways with this propoSal and stated that in suggesting
this the Planning Board has two points in mind. ~he firstis that. the
2,000 sq. ft, of drainage area would.furnish 40 times as much vertical
drainaqe as a single basin. Secondly t he'Planning B®ard feels an
experiment of this nature might provide some information which would
be of value both to us and to the Town in years to come and it is for
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this reason that they suggest catch basins on one side and the
flush' dr~nage area on the opposite side of the highway so that they
can be compared. Mr. Price was requested to givethe Planning Board
his reaction to this proposal.
The Planning Board again discussed the petition 0fWoodhollow
Properties, Inc. for a change of zone from~"A'' Residential and
Agricultural District to "B" Business DistriCt on certain~ real
property in Orientbounded and described as follows: Beginning at
a point on the southerly side of the Main Road which point marks the
northwesterly corner. Of premises herein described and the north-
easterly corner ofl land of the State of New York; thence running
along the southerly side of Main Road, North 87 degrees 09 minutes
20 seconds East 151.72 feet to land of the United States Government;
thence running by last mentioned land, South ll degrees 43 minutes
20 seconds East 752 feet, to the ordlnary h~ghwater mar~pf Garden r's
Bay;' thence running southwesterly along the ordinary hi~h~ter mark
of Gardiner's Bay the tie line of.which bears South 39 degrees 44
minutes 40 seconds West 348.41 feet to land of the State of New York;
thence running by last-mentioned land, North 4 degrees 40 minutes
45 seconds West 1000 feet to the southerly side of the Main Road, at
the point or place of beginning. Map of property surveyed f6z
Woodhollow Properties, Inc. at. Orient by. Otto W~ Van Tyl &.Son dated
April 25, 1961.
This change is requested because it is the intention of the
petitioner to erect a motel, marina and restaurant.
The Planning Board hasreceived letters from the U. S. Depart-
ment or,Agriculture, Plum Island Animal Disease Laboratory, J. J.
Callis, Acting'Direc~r~ Suffolk County-Planning Department, Charles
G. Lind, Sr.. A~st..'~ivil Engineer; New York State-Department of Public
Works, A. M. Sarr, DistrictEngineer; and Long Island State Park
Commission, which reply was only an acknowledgment.
On motion of!Mr, Moisa, seconded by Mr..Young, it~was
RESOLVED that the Planning Board recommend this change of zone
from "~" Residential cultural District to "B" Business DiOr
trict to the!S
The~plann~'Boa~~ haS~tudied~this location for two years and
given Considerab~!eJ~hought.to a possible use for it~ It~would-seem
to us that a motel and restaurant is the best.use that could be made
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of this strip of land with the advantages and location of this
strip, and more than that it would seem that'being adjoining to
both the recreational facilities of the State Park and the ferry
terminal that a motel and restaurant would be a real asset to the
Town of-SouthOld.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Wickham, Mr. Moisa, Mr. Grebe,
Mr. Young, and Mr. Unkelbach.
Mr. Young reported and he and Mr. Van Tuyl had been to see Mr.
Costas 'Stars and Mr. Frumenti at-East Marion, Mr. Stars stated he
wished' to purchase additional land from Mr. Frumenti to make the
road 50 ft. wide, but Mr. Frumenti would not sell. Mr. Young and
Mr. Van Tuyl explained the situation to Mr. Frumenti who did not
understand the entire problem. No agreement could be reached'however.
It was felt that they had done everything they could and it would
now be up to Mr. Stars and Mr. Frumenti to resolve the problem.
On motion of. Mr.' Young, seconded by Mr. Moisa, it was
RESOLVED that the minutes of the meeting of July 18, 1961 be
approved as read.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Wickham, Mr. Moisa, Mr. Grebe,
Mr. Young, and Mr. Unkelbach.
The Board discussed the joint meeting to De held August 16th.
They thought highway specifications and requiring access to the water
on shore front PrOperty should be placed on the agenda for this joint
meeting.
Mr. Van Tuyl presented for an informal discussion the preliminary
map or, Cleaves Point,~section 2, at,East Marion. All of the tots will
be 12,500 sq. ft. because there is public water.
The Chairman_asked that'the minutes pertaining to Section 1 be
obtained for the next.meeting as he bstieves OSprey 'Nest~Road was to
be extended to the water if any future development of the property
were made.
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The next meeting of the Southold Town Planning Board will be
held 7:30'P.M., Wednesday, September 13, 1961 at the Town Clerk
Office, Main Road, Southold, New York.
Meeting adjourned at 10:00 P.M.
Judith T. Boken
Respectfully submitted,
Secretary