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SOUTHnLD, L. I., N.Y.
PLANNING BOARD
MEMBERS
John Wickhem, Chairman
Henry ~oisa
Alfred Grebe
Archibald Young
William U nlcelbach
SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD
September 13, 1961
A regu~rmeeting of ~.he Southold Town Planning Board was
held 7:30 P.M., Wednesday, September 13, 1961 at the Town Clerk
Office, Main Road,.$outhold, New York.
There were present: Messrs. JohnWickham,. Chairman, Henry
Moisa, Alfred Grebe and Archibald Young.
Absent: Mr. William Unkelbach
Also present: Messrs. Otto W. Van Tuyl, Consultant and
Howard M, Terry, Building Inspector.
The-Planning Board received from the Town Board the original
petition of:Edward'L. Donahue, ClementB...Donahue,.EdWard ~Meyer,
Raymond W. Donahue, and Reginald S. Donahue for change of zone from
"Al" Residential and Agricultural District to "B" Business District
on certain real property situated at-Southold, and more particularly
bounded and describedas follows: Beginning ata point marked by a
granite monument set at the point of in~rsection o~ the northwesterly
line or. Middle Roadwith the northeasterly line of Kenney~S Road;
and running thence along said line of~Kenney's Road, North 41 degrees
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57 minutes 50 seconds West a distance of 220.62 feet to an iron
pipe; thence on a line at right angles to said line of~Kenney's
Road, North 48 degrees 02 minutes 10 seconds East a distance of
131.30 feet to an iron pipe; thence along land of the party of the
first part and along land of Edward Donahue, South 42 degrees 05
minutes 50 seconds East a distance of 200.0 feet-to an iron pipe
seton said northwesterly line of Middle Road; thence along said
line of Middle Road, South 39 degrees 08 minutes 40 secondsWest a
distance of 133.38 feet to the point of beginning. Map of land
surveyed for the Donah~e Estate at Southold by-Otto W. Van Tuyl
&~Son dated August 17, 1961~
The Donahue~Brothers, Edward, Clement, Raymond andReginald
and Edward D. Meyer appeared before the Board to answer questions.
Mr. Meyer stated that'he intends to build a blockand brick building
100 ft. by 35 ft. facing on Route 27A. The setback-on Route 27A
will be 50 feet-and on Kenney's Road it will be 35 ft. ~r. Meyer
intends to produce and assemble electronic instruments and will
eventually hire 10 to 15 employees.
On the opposite'corner is the property of Conway which is
zoned "B" Business and is used for the repair of farm machinery,
trucks, tractors, etc. Diagonally across Route 27A is the property
of Ka~]~e~in which is zoned "B" Business and is used for the sale and
service of Farm machinery.
On motion of Mr. Moisa, seconded by Mr. Grebe, it was
RESOLVED that the Plan~ing Board recommend to the Town Board
the change of zone fr0m'"A"~Residential and Agricultural District
to "B" Business District on the property of Edward L. Donahue,
Raymond W.. Donahue, Reginald S. Donahue, ClementB. Donahue and
Edward D. Meyer, Southold, New York.
Diagonally a~ross from the property in question., on the south
side of R0Ute 2'7~ is of Ka~n Farm ~achinery Which is
zoned "B" Bus~ne~ this proPerty~on the west side of
the corner of Kenney's ROad and Route 2'7A is the property of Conway
which is zoned "B" Business and used for a similar purpose.
The Planning Board feels this property is particularly suitable
for "B" Business and wOuld be advantageous to the economy of~Southold
Town.
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Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Wickham, Mr. Moisa, Mr.
Grebe and Mr. Young.
Mr. Walter U hi appeared before the Planning Board with Mr.
Frank Mc/~ann to discuss"Orient-By~e-Sea, Section Two. The
Chairman stated that Mr. Price, Su~rintendent of Highways, was
not in agreement with the Board's suggestion of t0 ft. by 200 ft.
flush drainage area along the highway in the vicinity of lot 48,
but~he will go along with double catch basins, there must be 100%
verticatdrainage in the heretofore approved leaching area locations.
Mr. Uhl~s in agreement with this. He said he would do every-
thing possible to put the property in order for final approval and
approval of the highways. ~r. Uhl statedthat he has received
approval of the Health Department.
The Chairman stated that a letter-would be forwarded to Super-
intendent-Pr'ice requesting that he send to either b~r. Uhl or the
Planning Board the specifications or name of the manufacturer with
relation to the double catch basins. He would also request that Mr.
Price go along with Mr. Van Tuyl to locate the position of these
catch basins. The Board also requested that-some sort of formula
or reasonable practice be set up of so many feet.of area per lot or
100 feet of road frontage or at least some basis that the Planning
Board could use in future cases.
The Board finding that everything seemed to be order agreed to
sera date for the public hearing on approval of Orient-By-The-Sea,
Section Two.
On motion of Mr. Grebe, seconded by M_r. Moisa it was
RESOLVED that the Planning Board set 7:30 P.M., Tuesday,
October 3, 1961, Town clerk Office, Main Road, Southold, New York,
as time and place for hearing upon the question of-approval of the
following plat:
Plat of.property-owned by-Woodhollow Properties, Inc., entitled
Orient-By-The-Sea, Section Two, consisting of~a parcel of land of
approximately 68.00 acres, situated at' Orient,~ in the Town of!Southold,
Suffolk~County, New York, bounded and described as follows:
Beginning at a point on the westerly line'cf land of the appli-
cant and the easterly line of land of Joseph Moisa at a point about
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300 feet northerly along said line from the northerly line of
Main or-State Road; running thence ~bng land of Joseph Moisa
northerly about 1870'feet to la~d~ of-Walter'Millis; thence along
said land of~Walter~Millis, three, courses, as f°llows: (1)
northerly 75 feet; thence (2) easterly 100 feet; thence (3)
northerly about 2,50 feet to Lon~ Island Sound; thence easterly
along said~Long ~sland Sound about 800 feet to a point about 130
feet westerly from the northwesterly corner or'Lot Number 24 as
shown on "Map of!Orient By The Sea Section..One" filed in Suffolk
County~Clerk's Office No~ember el, 1957 as Map No. 2777; thence
southerly along other land of't~e aPP!icant about 260 feet to a
point on the northerly line of~Sound View Road about 110 feet
westerly from the southwesterly corner of said Lot Number 24; thence
southeasterly on a~diagonal lin~ across said Sound View Road about
55 feet to the northwesterly co~ner of'Lot Number 25 on Said map;
thence southerly along the westerly line of said Lot Number 25,
146.26 feet; thence in a genera% easterly direction along the
southerly end of lots numbers 2~ to 33 inclusive, about 800 feet;
thence in a general southerly direction along the westerly end of
10ts numbdrs 34 to 43 inclusiveland across two unnamed 50 foot
strips and then along thewesterly line of-Lot Number 4~ 'a total
of about 1300~feet; thence westerly along the northerly line of
Lot Number~2, thence across~Plumtsland Lane and then along Lot
number 1, about430 feet; thence:southerty along the westerly line
or'said Lot Number 1, thence across'Park View"Lane and then along
other land of the applicant, about 400 feet to the northeasterly
corner of land of Edwin H~ King; thence westerly a~ong'said land
or'Edwin H. King about 5'50 feet~'to the northwesterly corner Of said
King's land; thence southwestertyalong other land~ of th'e applicant
about 520 feet; thence westerly along other ~and of the appliCant
about 110 feet to the point of beginning.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Wickham, Mr. MGisa, Mr. Grebe,
and Mr. Young.
Mr. Terryadvised the Board that the~ Suffolk.County-Planning
Commission 'would be holding a public'hearing on SePtemb~er/2~th on
%he application for a change of"zone on the property~of'Woodhollow
Properties, Inc. at, Orient. TheSouthold Town Board recently approved
thislchange of zone from "A" Residential~and~Agricultural to "B"
Business.
Irving L. Price, Jr., Esq~ appeared before the Planning Board
present the application for approval of Section Two or'Cleaves
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Point at-East Marion, New York. Preliminary-Plan or'section Two,
Cleaves'Point at East Marion by Otto W, Van Tuyl &~Son dated
September 11, 1961. This proposed subdivision will contain 22
lots, each having over 12,500 sq. ft. -of area and having public
water. Cleaves Point, Section Two is ~escribed as follows:
Beginning at the intersection of the westerly line of Maple
Lane with the northerly line of Osprey'Nest Road as shown on"Map
of-Section One Cleaves'~Point" filed in Suffolk~CountyClerk's Office
as Map No. 2752; running thence along the northerly line of said
Osprey Nest Road, S.56°37'10"W. about 630 feet to Gull Pond: thence
northerly along Gull Pond 500 feet, more or less; thence along other
land of the applicant, four courses, as follows: (1) N. 56°37'10"E.
170 feet, more or less; thence (2) N. 33°22'50"W. abo~t 35 feet; thence
(3) N.19°30"E. 450 feet, more or less;' thence N, 56°37'10"E. 100 feet,
more or less to thewesterly line of said Maple Lane; thence southerly
along said line of'Maple Lane, about 800 feet to the point of
beginning.
The Chairman brought up the question of a 100 ft. turnaround
at'the water. It was pointed out that in the Planning Board's
minutes of March 11, 1957 there was mention made that~Osprey Nest
Road should be made a 50 ft. right-of-way and extended to the water
with a 100 ft. by 100 ft. turnaround.
Mr. Price asked the Planning Board under wh~tregulations or
section of the State~ Law the Planning Board is requesting that this
be done? He stated :that the Planning Board has no authority other
than the regulations approved by the Town of!Southold and the State
Law. He stated that his client has instructed him not, to agree to
anything other than what is shown on the preliminary plan. These
roads are to be kept-private.
On motion of Mr..Young, seconded by Mr. Grebe, it was
matter be tabled until the. Board has an
~ult with the Town Attorney with regard to the
legallposition of the Board.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Wickham, Mr. Moisa, Mr. Grebe,
and Mr. Young.
The Chairman dictated a letter to Town Attorney Tasker requesting
his opinion on the above matter.
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The Planning Board received from the Town Board the original
petition of William Victoria and Regina G. Victoria for~a change
of zone from "A" Residential and Agricultural District to "M"
Multiple Residence District. Thomas~Stark, Esq. appeared before
the Planning Board with Mrs. Victoria to answer questions relative
to this application for a change of zone on certain property situated
at Ba~view, Southold, and bounded and described as follows: bounded
on the west by la~ds now or formerly of Koke Estate 740 feet, more
or less, on the north by other lands ofWillia~Victoria and Regina
G. Victoria 850 feet, more or less, and on the south and east by the
waters of Corey~Creek and the shore line thereof as the same winds
and turns and by the meadow land now or formerly.of Howard M. Terry
and others; all as shown and outlined on plot-plan prepared by.Alden
W. Young, Licensed Land Surveyor of Riverhead, New York, dated July
7, 1961. -- Mr% Stark promised to forward to the Board a complete
metes and boun~s~description of this property and same will be recorded
in the next minutes of the Planning Board.
~r~hD~rs. Victoria wish their propertyrezoned from "A" To "M"
S~ that theymay expand their present non-conforming operation
which is used for 'the location of cottages for summer rental.
On motion of Mr. Moisa, seconded by Mr. Grebe it was
RESOLVED that the Planning Board recommend to the Town Board
this change of zone from '~" Residential and Agricultural District
to "M" Multiple Residence District.
This property has been: nonconforming since ~rior to the enact-
ment of~Zoning and ian enlargement of the use will in no way harm the
character~of the ~rea. Mr. and M~s. Victoria wish to maintain the
front of the property facing on Main Bayview Road in "A" Residential
and Agricultural Districtas a buffer. The Planning Board feels a
changeto "M" would be'the most reasonable use for ~the property.
Vote of the Boar~: Ayes:- Mr. Wickh~m~ Mr. Moisa,.Mr. Grebe,
and Mr. Young.
The Planning Board received from the Town Board the original
petition of'FrederickL. Jackson~ administrator of~Estate of Adeline
J. Becktold, Southold, requesting a change of zone from "A" Resi-
dential and Agricultural District to "B" Business District on
certain property situated at Southold, and more particularly bounded
and described as follows: Beginning at a point on the easterly side
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of Wells Avenue 200 feet-southerly from its intersection with the
southerly line of'Main ROad, said point of b eg~nning being the
southwesterly corner of the premises late of Adeline J. Becktold
zoned "B" Commercial; running thence along the easterly side of Wells
Avenue S.15°'45'10"E. 471.78 feet to the northerly line or'wells Avenue;
running thence N. 70°22~'20"E. 149.89 feet to land now or formerly of
Suffolk County Trust Co; running thence along said land now or formerly
of Suffolk~Couty TrUst-Co. and a right of~way N. 15°55'50"W. 464.12
feet to said other land 6f the Estate of-Adelin~ J. Bec~told zoned
"B" Commercial and running thence S.73°t7'20"W-~ 148 feet more or less
to the point or ~!ace of begin~ng~ Map of land of the Estate of
Adeline J. Beckto'ld at-SouthOld~..~y'Otto W. Van Tuyl & Son dated
Mas 9, 1961.
This change of zone is requested becauHe it is intended to
put this property on the ma-rket.as a single parcel-and it iB,~believed
better planning for the village .zi.~ the property would be zoned
"B" for its entire length. It is presently "B" for 200 ft. back
from Main Road.
On motion of Mr. Young, seconded by 9Lt. Grebe, it was
RESOLVED that the Planning Board recommend to the Town Board
this change of zone from "A" Residential and Agricultural District
to "B" Business District.
This property is presently zoned "B" Business for 200 ft. in
depth. Applicant intends to sell the parcel for commercial use and
it is believed good planning and will better serve the ne~ds of the
co~mnunity if the entire parcel is zoned "B". On the opposite corner
the property is Business, across the street is Business'and. to the
east-of this property for the balance of the business section the
zone is "B" Business.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr~ Wickham, Mr. Moisa, Mr. Grebe,
and Mr. Young.
The P~anning Board received notification from the Town Board
that the application for change of zone by Guido Ciacia, from
Residential and~Agricultural District to "B" Business~District.was
approved effective as of-September 23, 1961.
Notification was also receivedthat the application for a
change of zone from "A" Residential and Agricultural District to
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"M" Multiple Residence District on property of~Southold Develop-
mentCorp. & George'W. Smith & Sons, Inc. was denied.
The Board reviewed the file of the proposed subdivision of
Peconic BayOaks at Indian Neck Lane, Peconic. Everything was found
to be order to publication for hearing upon the approval of this plat.
On motion of Mr. Young, seconded by ~r. Moisa, it was
RESOLVED that the Planning Board set-7:30 P.M. , Tuesday,
October 3, 1961, Town Clerk~Offic~, Main Road, Southold, New York,
as time and place for hearing upon application for approval of the
following plat:
Plat of property owned by-Stelta M. Smith and Henry J. Smith,
entitled Peconic Bay oaks, consisting of a parcel of land of approx-
imately 16.23 acres~ situated at-Peconic, in the Town-of'Southold,
Suffolk~County, NeW!York, and bounded and described as follows:
Beginning at~a point on the southerly side of Indian Neck Road
where the same is intersected by the easterly line of lard now or
formerly of L. A. Messenger; running thence North 78 degrees 44
m~[nutes 00 secondsEast along the southerly side of Indian Neck
~oad 355.25 feet to the northwesterly corner of land now or formerly
orE. W. Wood, thence along said'Wood's land the following se~en
courses and distances: (1) South 20 degrees 10 minutes 10 seconds
EaSt 272.89 feet; ~)South 20 degrees 29 minutes 40.seconds~East
1~90.08 feet; (3) ~Outh 20 degrees 26 minute~ 50 seconds East 110.18
feet; (4) South 20~:degrees 23 minutes 40 seconds East 96.87 feet;
(5) South 20 degrees 05 minutes 00 secondslEaSt 220.79 feet; ~6)
South 19 degrees 49 minutes 50 seconds East 255.16 feet; (7) South
20 degrees 07~minu%es 50 seconds East 414.19 feet to the mean high
water line of'Little Peconic Bayand running thence along ~he mean
high waterline of Little Peconic Bay, South 44 degrees 30 minutes
00 seconds West 200 feet; running thence North 23 degrees 50~minutes
West 300 feet; thence North 65 degrees 46 minutes~West 45..58 fee%;
running thence southwesterly along an arc of a curve bearing to the
right having a-radius of 775 feet a distance along said arc of 317.66
feet; running thence South 37 degrees 50 minuteS'East'165 feet to the
mean high water line of Little Peconic Bay and running3thence along
the mean high water line of Little Peconic Bay the following two
courses and distances: (1) South ~ degrees 30 minutes 00 seconds
~est 40 feet; (2) South 36 degrees 43 minutes 40 seconds~West 169.55
feet to land now or formerly Of Messenger and running thence along
land now or formerlyof Messenger the following two courses and
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distances: (1) North 61 degrees 0~ minutes 40 seconds~West 85
feet; (2).North 12 degrees 33 minutes 50 seconds'West 300 feet;
running thence North 77 degrees 26 minutes 10 seconds East.148.61
feet; thence northeasterly along an arc of a curve bearing to the
left having a radius of~725 feet a distance along said arc of 274.45
feet; thence South 77 degrees 26 minutes 10 seconds'West 257.80 feet
to land now or formerly of Messenger and running thence along land
now or formerly of Messenger North 12 degrees 33 minutes 50 seconds
West 1297.75 feet to the southerly side of Indian Neck'Road at the
point or place of beginning.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Wickham, Mr. Moisa, Mr. Grebe,
and Mr. Young.
The Planning Board received a letter from Richard J. Cron,
Esq. who, since the retirement from law practice of RobertF. Dart,
hasheen handling the matter of dedication of the extension of Ruth
Road, Mattituck, by~.Stanley. J. and Helen Sledzieski to the Tow of
Southoldl In reviewing ~the file Mr. CRon did not find a written
letter of approval of the dedication of the proposed road and would
like to know if such a letter was ever forwarded. ~is clients are
prepared to put in the new road as soon as approval of the proposal
previously:filed with the Planning Board is received.
In reviewing the minutes of the' Planning Board it was found that
a resolution recommending approval of the continuation of~Ruth Road
was made at the meeting of FEbruary 21, 1961. The file was then
returned tothe Town Board with the resolution and a notation that
it is understood by'Mr, and Mrs. Sledzieski that all lots on the
south side of the proposed road which they may hereafter sell or
convey will have a minimum area of'20,000 sq. ft. A letter to this
effect~was to be forwarded to Mr. Cron.
The minutes of the meeting of~August 1, 1961, on motion of Mr.
Moisa, seconded by Mr.. Grebe, were approved as read.
Vote or'the Board: ~es:- Mr. Wickham, Mr. Moisa, Mr. Grebe,
and Mr. Young.
~he Planning Board received from the TownlBoard application to
layout'Town Highway ~for~the dedication of Gull~Pond'Lane at Greenport
by Ruth'F. Preston, Ida Belle: Latham .and Robert'L. Muir.
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This road is in a proposed subdivision to be known as Fordham
Acres, Section One. This proposed subdivision received preliminary
approval in September 1960 and the applicant has paid the filing fee
for final approval. The preliminary map shows~a 100 ft.. turnaround
at water.
On motion of Mr. Young, seconded by Mr. Moisa, it was
RESOLVED that the Planning Board finds this applicationto be
a departure from town policy in that this proposed road on the map
for dedication does not have the required turnaround at the water,
and the Planning Board is not willing to approve this highway at
this time.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Wickham, Mr. Moisa, ~r. Grebe,
and Mr. Young.
A letter covering this matter was to be forwarded to the Town Board.
The Planning Board discussed the budget for the fiscal year
beginning January 1, 1962 and the following was agreed upon: -
(This constituted a $200.00 increase from the 1961 budget.)
Stationery, postage, printing
Advertising legal notices, etc.
Telephone (Chairman) and Office
Association of Towns Mtg.-Buffalo
OfficeEquipment
Transportation (Fishers Island Member)
Car'Expenses'$ $.08
Member RemuneratiOn - Chairman $700.00
Other Members 600.00
TOTAL EXPENDITURES
(Estimated) Income from SubdivisionAppli.
$ 300.00
30.00
350.00
150.00
600.00
75.00
3100.00
$4~605.0g
$ 350.00
The next' meeting of the' Southold TownPlanning Board will be
held 7:30 P.M., Tuesday, October 3, 1961 at the TownClerk Office,
Main Road, SOuthold, New York.
Meeting.adjourned at 11:00 P.M.
John Wickham, Chairman
Respectfully submitted,
~udith T. Boken,. Secretary