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SDUTHDLD, L. I., N. Y. ll9?l
PLANNING BOARD
MEMBERS
John Wlckham, Chairman
Henry Molsa
Alfred Grebe
- Henry Raynol'
Frank Coyle
M I N U T E S
SOUTHOLD TOWN PLAATNING BOARD
September 7, 1971
A regular meeting of the Southold Town Planning Board was
.held at 7:30 P.M., Tuesday, September 7, 1971, at the Town Office,
Main Street, Southold, New York.
There were present: Messrs: John Wickham, Chairman; Henry
Moisa, Vice-Chairman; ~enry Raynor; Frank Coyle.
Absent: Mr. Alfred Grebe (due to unfavorable ~eather conditions)
Rudolph Bruer, Attorney presented the Planning Board with
three (3) copies of revised final maps for the proposed minor
subdivision of Jack Stukas, property located at north side of
Sound Avenue, Mattituck, N.Y. The revised map showed five (5)
lots: lot no. 1 contained 32,261 sq. ft. of area; lot no. 2
contained 34,877 sq. ft. of area& lot no. 3 contained 34,602
sq. ft. of area; lot no. 4 contained 36,197 sq. ft. of area;
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lot no. 5 contained 35,498 sq. ft. of area. Ail adjacent and
surrounding prop.erty owners were p~inted on the map. A question
was raised on the location of the right-of-way to the Gilles
property (located to the north of this property). There was no
right-of-way shown over the Stukas property on this map. Mr.
Bruer checked the title search which did not cite any provision
for a right-of-way over this property. These maps were in
accordance with all requirements as stated by the Planning Board
at their last meeting.
On motion by Mr. Raynor, seconded by Mr. Moisa, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board table
decision on the above proposed minor subdivision for further
deliberation of the Board later in the evening.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Wickham, Moisa, Raynor,
Coyle.
Rudolph Bruer, Attorney presented the Planning Board with
map of properties of Clarence Fleet and Henry Fleet, located at
east side of Fleet's ~Neck Road, Cutchogue, N.Y. The property of
Clarence Fleet is on'the north end and contains approximately
10.6 acres, immed&ately adjacent to the south is a parcel of
land of 5.399 acres, formerly M. S. Hand (now residential plots);
to the south of this property is the property of Henry Fleet
con~ining approximately 6 acres of area. Mr. Bruer stated that
he is aware that he must a major subdivision on the property
of Clarence but he asked the Planning Board iX
they would Subdivision of 6 lots on the property
of Henry Fleet on the South end. The Chairman stated that they
might possibly accept a minor subdivision of 6 lots on this
property. The Board informed Mr. Bruer that they would like to
make a physical inspection of the properties before making any
decisions on them. Mr. Bruer to present the Planning Board with
preliminary maps for these properties at the next meeting of the
Board.
Ralph Tuthill presented the Planning Board with a pre-
liminary sketch for the proposed minor subdivision of his
property located at the north side of Wickham Avenue, Mattituck,
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N.Y. The sketch showed a large parcel of land of approximately
5 acres to be divided into a minor subdiv~ ion of five (5) lots
with 30 ft. right-of-way immediately east. The property on the
east side of this right-of-way was previously divided bY the
Board of Appeals. Each of the five lots on the west side of
the right-of-way contained 40,000+ sq. ft. of area. Lots 5, 3,
& 2 on the east side of the right-of-way are all built upon'and
are in different ownership. Only lots 1 & 4 remain in the same
ownership and are not built upon. The Board informed Mr. Tuthill
that they would like to take a look at the property. The Chairman
stated that if the Planning Board is generally willing to accept
the five (5) lots on the westerly side as a minor subdivision,
they should be in the process of conveying lots 1 & 4 on the
easterly side. The minor subdivision must not show the same
ownership as any of the lots on the easterly side. The Board
advised Mr. Tuthill to take the preliminary steps for conveying
the lots on the easterly side and to have Van Tuyl make up a
minor subdivision map of the westerly five (5) lots showing all
adjacent and surrounding property owners.
Mr. David Gillispie presented the Planning Board with
preliminary map for the proposed minor subdivision of his
property located off north side of Main (State) Road, East
Marion, N.Y. The map showed a total of five (5) lots, each
containing 40,000 sq. ft. of area with 30 ft. right-of-way.
This property is situated on the south side of Dam Pond.
On the north side of Dam Pond there is a parcel Of land
with 400 ft. of frontage on L.I. Sound and 150 ft. deep.
This parcel was divided up into five lots: lA, 2A, 3A, 4A,
& SA, each of these lots to be part of the corresponding
lot number on the south side of Dam Pond. Mr. Gillispie
stated tha~ he will restrict the property to prevent any
structures from being built upon it. The Board informed
him that they will require him to submit a covenant to
the following effect: "Under no circumstances will any
structures be allowed to be erected on the sub-lots front-
ing on L.I. Sound." The Planning Board stated that they
will have to confer with the Town Attorney in reference to
the legality of granting a minor subdivision under such
conditions.
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Dominic Aurichio, Attorney appeared before the Planning
Board in reference to the proposed subdivision "Petty's Bight"
located off north side of Main Road, Orient, N.Y. The Planning
Board informed Mr. Aurichio that they are waiting to receive a
letter from the Suffolk Connty Planning Com~is~&Qn with their
comments and recommendations, and also that an error has been
made in the bond estimate which must be corrected, The Chairman
advised Mr. Aurichio that the County has verbally informed us
that they will recommend several minor changes in the contour
of the roads. The Chairman informed Mr. Aurichio that as soon
as we hear from the County we will notify him and the maps can
be taken down to Van Tuyl's for revision. Mr. Aurichio s~ated
that they are ready to start working on the roads. They plan
to do everything but the curbing before the public hearing, so
as to minimize the performance bond.
Mr. Philip L. Babcock appeared before the Planning Board
in reference to the proposed minor subdivision of his p~gperty
located off south side of Main Road, Cutchogue, New York. Mr.
Babcock presented the Board with a sketch showing the proposed
lay-out for this minor subdivision. This parcel of proper~y
was taken out of the Case Estate. It contains approximately
6 acres of area. Mr. Babcock wishes to divide it into five
(5) lots and run a 20 ft. easement to connect to the 20 ft.
right-of-way (Case Bros.) and run southerly along lots 1-4
and part of lot 5. ~e Planning Board advised Mr. Babcock
that this matter will be discussed later in the evening and
he will be notified of the Board's decision tomorrow.
Robert Tooker, Attorney, James Reeve, and John Reeve
appeared before the Planning Board in reference to "Bennett's
Pond" subdivision located off south side of Westphalia Avenue,
Mattituck, N.Y. Mr. Tooke~ ~kated that the road is completed
and the curbs and drainage system have been installed, and that
all of the requirements of the Supt. of Highways and Engineer
have been met. Mr. Tooker requested that the Planning Board
recommend to the Town Board that the bond be released. The
Chairman stated that the Planning Board will not make such a
recommendation until they have a favorable re~mmendation from
the Supt. of Highways and report of inspection by the Engineer.
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The Chairman stated that he feels that the Planning Board has
already been taken on this subdivision. Lots 5 & 6 are very
shallow due to the swamp area in the rear yard area of the
lo~s. However, the developers told the Planning Board that
they realized this and they would ha~e enough room for a house
regardless. After receiving approval from the Planning Board
they went to the Board of Appeals and applied for a reduction
in setback which was granted. The Chairman said that the
Planning Board caught all of the grief in this instance and
he wants to make sure that it does not happen again. The
Planning Board informed the developers that they will require
a favorable recommendation for release of bond from the Supt.
of Highways and a copy of the report of inspection of the
engineer before recommending to the Town Board that the bond
be released.
Robert Tooker, Attorney and James Reeve presented the
Planning Board with preliminary map for proposed subdivision
of property located at east side of Wells Road, Peconic, N.Y.
The total area of the parcel is 6.83 acres. The map showed
seven (7) lots fronting on the east side of Wells Road, all
having over 100 ft. of road frontage with the exception of
lot $ 7, which has only a 15 ft. easement. A lengthly dis-
cussion was held on the layout of these lots, in regard to
the frontage on lot $ 7. The Planning Board advised them
that all adjacent and surrounding property owners must be
shown on the map.
Mr. & Mrs. Ellenberger presented the PI
~evised preliminary maps for the proposed minor of
property of S. Santini, located at northeas~ cornez of Westphalia
Avenue and Howard Avenue, Mattituck, N.Y. ~he map showed five (5)
lots: lot no. 1 contained 17,600+ sq. ft. oE area; lots 2-5
~ontained 20,000 sq. ft. of area each. Note on map indicated
that dimensions of proposed lots are approximate only. The
Planning Board informed Mr. & Mrs. Ellenberger that dimensions
and areas of all lots on this map must be exact. The Board
advised them to take the map back to Van Tuyl and have it re-
vised to show exact dimensions and areas.
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Mr. Andrew Wenchel presented the Planning Board with a
survey showing the proposed minor subdivision of his property
located at south side of Soundview Avenue, Mattituck, New York.
The parcel contains 40,000+ sq. ft. of area, with 407 ft. of
road frontage on Soundview Avenue and an average depth of 100
ft. The map showed the approximate location of the existing
dwelling on the easterly half of the property. Mr. Wenchel
requested approval of the lay-out of the lots in this minor
subdivision.
On motion by Mr. Wickham, seconded by Mr. Raynor, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board grant final
approval to the proposed minor subdivision of the property of
Andrew Wenchel, property located at south side of Soundview
Avenue, Mattituck, New York, subject to applicant presenting
the Planning Board with the following:
1. Two (2) copies of formal application.
2. Application fee of $10.
3~ Three (3) copies of final maps showing minor subdivision
of two (2) lots as above approved.
This motion shall include authorization for the Chairman
to sign final maps upon their presentation.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Wickham, Moisa, Raynor,
Coyle.
William Schriever, Excavation Contractor, appeared before
the Planning Board in reference to the proposed Subdivision
"Petty's Bight", located off N/S Main (State) Road, Orient, New
York. Mr, Schriever has been contracted by the Newmans to cut
the roads through. Mr. Schriever requested that the turn-around
at the westerly end of "Petty's Drive", on lot no. 1 be waivered
due to the high elevation which would create hazardous conditions.
Discussion was held/on the road lay-out, drainage, etc. The
Planning Board advised Mr. Schriever that the County Planning
Commission is sending recommendations and comments which will
require minor revisions of the road lay~out.
On motion by Mr. Moisa, seconded by Mr. Wickham, it was
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RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board recommend
to the Southold Town Board a waiver of the 100 foot turn-around
and dead-end on the westerly end of "Petty's Drive", in the sub-
division "Petty's Bight", located off the N/S Main (State) Road,
Orient, New York, subject to the approval of the Supt. of Highways.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Wickham, Moisa, Raynor,
Coyle.
The Planning~ Board discussed again the proposed minor
subdivision of Jack Stukas, property located off north side
Sound Avenue, Mattituck, New York.
On ~o~ion by Mr. Moisa, seconded by Mr. Raynor, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board grant
final approval to the proposed minor subdivision of Jack
Stukas, property located at north side of Sound Avenue,
Mattituck, N.Y.
The Chairman signed the final maps.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Wickham, Moisa, Raynor,
Coyle.
The Plannin9 Board discussed~again the proposed minor
subdivision of Philip Babcock, property located off S/S
Main Road, Cutchogue, New York.
On motion by Mr. Wickham, seconded by Mro Raynor, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board authorize
Chairman John Wickham to send a letter to Mr. Philip Babcock
in regard to his proposed minor subdivision located off south
side of Main Road, Cutchogue, N.Y. The Planning Board stated
that it is unrealistic for them to come in here with a minor
subdivision on such a large parcel of land. The Planning
Board wants to know what the next step is. They will not go
along with this property being cut up into one minor subdivision
after another.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Wickham, Moisa, Raynor,
Coyle.
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~.~.e Planning Board discussed again the proposed mino~
subdiv~on of Philip Babcock, property located off S
o ogue, New York.
On motion~b~Mr. Wickham, seconded by Raynor, it was
RESOLVED that [Town
Chairman John Wickham a
in regard to his proposed
side of Main Road, Cutch~
that it is unrealistic them
subdivision on such parcel
Board authorize
to Mr. Philip Babcock
sion located off south
The Planning Board stated
~ome in here with a minor
.and.~ The Planning
Board wants to
along with
after ano
what the next step
property being cut up
Vote of the Board:
They will not go
minor subdivision
Ayes:- Messrs: Wickham, ~or,
The Planning Board discussed the access to the new restaurant
(owned by Gabriel Kousouros) located at S/S County Road 27 and
Sound Avenue, Mattituck, N.Y.
On motion by Mr. Raynor, seconded by Mr. Moisa, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board send a letter
to the Suffolk County Dept. of Public Works recommending that a
guard rail or fence be placed on the S/S County Road 27 to prevent
ingress and egress from County Road 27.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Wickham, Moisa, Raynor,
Coyle.
The Planning Board received letter-=,,from the Supt. of
Highways requesting the release of the bond for "Rosewood
Estates", subdivision located at Mattituck, N.Y. (Copy of
report of inspection of Chas. Abrahams attached)
On motion by Mr. Moisa, seconded by Mr. Coyle, it was
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RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board recommend
to the Southold Town Board, the release of the performance bond
for the roads in the subdivision "Rosewood Estates", located at
Mattituck, N.Y.
This recommendation is made with regard to the favorable
recommendation of release of the bond by the Supt. of Highways.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Wickham, Moisa, Raynor,
Coyle.
Letter received from the Supt. of Highways forwarding the
report of inspection of Chas. Abrahams of the status of the
work for consideration of lifting the bond on "Sunset Knolls,
Sec. 2, Mattituck, N.Y. This letter did not contain a recom-
mendation from the Supt. of Highways for the release of the
bond. Subject letter placed on file.
Request received from Woodhollow Properties, Inc. for
renewal of covenants and restrictions for Section 2, Orient-
by- the- Sea. Letter which Mr. Terry sent to him advising
him of the proper procedure was read and placed on file.
Reply received from Alden Young (in regard to "Laurel
Country Estates") informing us that he does not include in
his fee or participate in the water supply analysis required
by the Suffolk County Dept. of Health as a requisite to
approval of a subdivision. He stated that this was true in
the layout of "Laurel Country Estates. The Suffolk County
Department of Health did approve the method of water supply,
so any test wells or samples from existing wells in the
neighborhood would be in their records. The Chairman
dictated letter to be sent to Alden Young informing him
that the Planning Board requires the location of test wells,
as well as test holes to be shown on all subdivision maps,
and also informing him that in the future, hewill be
expected to show the locations of all test wells and test
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holes done on the subject property, in their appropriate
locations, on all subdivision maps which he presents for
submission to the Planning Board.
On motion by Mr. Wickham, seconded by Mr. Moisa, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board submit
the following budget for the fiscal year beginning January 1, 1972:
AN~. ESTIMATE SUBMITTED BY THE
PLANNING BOARD
.~OWN OF SOUTHOLD
For fiscal year beginning January 1, 1972:
EXPENDITURES:
Stationery, postage, & printing ....................
Advertising of Legal Notices ........................
Telephone ...........................................
Association of Towns Meeting - New York
and Annual Planning Institute, ......................
Office Equipment ....................................
Transportation (Fishers Island Member) ..............
Car Expense ~ 12¢ per mile .........................
Members Renumeration: same as 1971 salary, PLUS any
increments and raises as agreed upon by the CSEA,
the Chairman's salary shall be $350.00 above those
of Planning Board members as agreed upon by the CSEA.
REVENUES:
350.00
1,200.00
175.00
500.00
120.00
1,000.00
?
? TOTAL
Estimated income from subdivision applications ..... $ 2,400
DATED: SEPTEMBER 10, 1971
Respectfully submitted,
John Wickham, Chairman
Southold Town Planning Board
JW:BN
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On motion by Mr. Moisa, seconded by Mr. Raynor, it was
RESOLVED that the minutes of the Southold Town Planning
Board, dated August 16, 1971, be approved as submitted.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Wickham, Moisa, Raynor,
Coyle.
On motion by Mr. Wickham, seconded by Mr. Rap-nor, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board strongly
recommend to the Southold Town Board, a raise in the salary
of the PlanKing Board Secretary, Betty Neville.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Wickham, Moisa, Raynor,
Coyle.
The minutes of the Southold Town Trustees meeting of
August 9, 1971 were read and placed on file.
On motion by Mr. Moisa, seconded by Mr. Coyle, it was
RESOLVED that the next regular meeting of the Southold
Town Planning Board be held at 7:30 P.M., Tuesday, October
5, 1971, at the Town Office, Main Streeth, Southold, New Y~rk.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Wickham, Moisa, Raynor,
Coyle.
The meeting was adjourned at 10:35 P.M.
~n Wickham, Chairman
Respectfully submitted,
Be~tt~Ne~.~retary
Southold Town Planning Board