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PLANNING BOARD
MEMBERS
John Wlekham, Chalrrnan
Henry Molsa
Alfred Grebe
, Henry Raynor
Frank Coyle
MINUTES
SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD
August 28, 1973
A regular meeting of the Southold Town planning
Board was held at 7:30 P.M., Tuesday, August 28, 1973,
at the Town Office, Main Road, Southold, New York.
There were present: Messrs. John Wickham, Chairman;
Henry Moisa, Vice Chairman; Henry Raynor; Frank Coyle.
Absent: Alfred Grebe (due to unfavorable weather conditions).
Also present: Mrs. Lorraine Terry et ano; Mrs. Shirley
Bachrach;'Mr. Richard Nagy.
THE%~CHAIRMAN: I will call the meeting to order on
the hearing for preliminary approval for map of property
known as L~ttle Neck Properties located at ~aSt Cutchogue,
New York.
Tke Chairman read affidavits of publication from the
Long Island Traveler-Mattituck Watchman and The Suffolk
Times.
THE CHAIRMAN: The Notice of Hearing reads as follows:
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NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that pursuant to Section 276
of the Town Law, public hearings will be held by the
Southold Town Planning Board at the Town Office, Main Road,
Southold, New York, in said Town on the 28th day of August,
1973, at 7:30 o'clock in the evening of said day on the
question of preliminary approval of the following plat:
Plat of property owned by P. J. Ventures, entitled
"Little Neck Properties", consisting of a parcel of land
situated at East Cutchogue, in the Town of Southold, County
of Suffolk, and State of New York, and bounded and described
as follows:
BEGINNING at a point on the southerly side of Eugene's
Road distant 160 feet westerly from the corner formed by the
intersection of the southerly side of Eugene's Road with the
westerly side of Little Neck Road; running thence south
13° 05' 10" East 356.55 feet; running thence North 76° 54'
30" East 160 feet to the westerlY side of Little Neck Road;
running thence along the westerly side of Little Neck Road
South 12° 53' 30"~East 1137.43 feet to the northerly side of
Moose Trail as shown on Map of Moose Cove filed ~R~the
Suffolk County Clerk's Office on August 30, 1960 as Map
No. 3230; running thence along the northerly side of Moose
Trail South 77° 27' 40" West 435.37 feet to the Easterly
side of Lot No. 9 on said Map No. 3230; running thence along
the easterly side of Lots 9-8-7 area reserved for road,
Lots 6-5-4-3-2-and 1 all as shown on sa'id Map No. 3230, the
following three courses ann distances; (1) North 13° 09'
40" West 908.49 feet; (2) North 10° 45' 10" West 460.06 feet;
(3) North 40° 45' 30" West 126.75 feet to the southerly side
of Eugene's Road; running thence along the southerly side of
Eugene's Road.North 76° 50' 30" East 320.14 feet to the
point or place of BEGINNING.
While the reading of the above description was in
progress, the Board found that the distances and courses
did' not match those shown on the map. Robert Tooker, Esq.,
Counsel for P. J. Ventures, said that t~e description as
read had been taken from the Deed and did not show the same
courses as t~ose shown on the map but he believed that the
purpose of a~Legal Notice is to describe what the property is.
The Chairman said that as the courses and distances are both
wrong, the dsHe~iption could not be accepted. Mr. Raynor
stated that some of the distances are offlby feet. Mr.
Tooker said that they intend to have it remain as the map
shows and that he would get a Deed that corresponds with the
map. He said that, in his opinion, the purpose of a des~
cription is that there is going to be a public hearing and
the description will show courses and distances between
neighbors. The Chairman stated that when an incorrect
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description is presented to the Planning Board it does
not engender confidence and that he trusted that at the
time of the Final Hearing it would be in proper form.
Mr. Tooker asked if the Planning Board held two hearings,
and the Chairman responded that they do and that this is
the Preliminary Hearing.
The Chairman: The file also contains Certification
of Approval of Realty Subdivision Plans from the Division
of Environmental Health Services, Suffolk County Department
of Health.
The Chairman also read letter dated
August 20, 1973, received from Mr. Raymond C. Dean,
Superintendent of Highways, as follows: "I have inspected
the map lay-out of LITTLE NECK PROPERTIES and recommend
that ample drainage will be made on building lots abutting
town roads". The map bears the Suffolk County Department
of Environmental Control approval as well as that of
the Suffolk County Department of Health. In view of the
fact that it is not within 500 feet of a State highway, it
would not have to be sent to the County Planning Commission.
THE CHAIRMAN: I will now open the hearing for anyone
who wishes to speak in opposition to the subdivision under
d~scussion ~n~itled Little Neck Properties.
MR. JOSEPH G. HATAIER, 1400 Beebe Drive, East Cutchogue:
I was wondering whether this comes under the same description
as Moose Cove Properties. I would like to know what the
frontage is on each one of those lots and how many lots it
will be divided into.
The Chairman asked Mr. Hataier if he would like to
look at the map, and stated that the Town Ordinance is very
strict about trailers. After inspecting the map, Mr. Hataier
said that he had no objections providing it's laid out like
this map. He asked if a road is supposed to go through.
The Chairman, referring to the map, said that this reservation
is in. These people have no title to this. They can't put
a road in. This is really a cluster concept;--each one of
the lots is 40,000 sq. ft. but they did not have the 150 foot
frontage as required so they have used the clustering laws
and Provided this common and open space. Mr. Raynor said
that there are about three and three quarter acres that will
never be built on. The Chairman stated that the Planning
Board feels that this is an excellent use of land. Mr.
Hataier said that Mr. Wilson Tuthill had explained it to him
but he did not have the exact dimensions. Mr. Hataier said
that he has no objections as long as it is going to be laid
out as shown on the map. Mr. Tooker said that we own some
lots in Moose Cove and our restrictions are more onerous.
We require 60 foot setbacks. We intended to make more
severe limitations in an effort to make a good residential
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area. After we met the last time, I talked to Mr. Robert
Tasker,.~the Town Attorney, and reviewed with him the
restrictions we had included about Health Department re-
quirements. He wanted to make sure the restrictions
would not terminate the Home Owners Association so I
amended'to provide that the Home Owners Association would
continue in perpetuity. He felt that 8.5 feet on Little
Neck Road should be dedicated to the Town. I have prepared
papers for dedication of roads and also dedication of
release signed by the owners for that strip along the
road. As soon as the map is filed, we will create a Home
Owners Association. The Chairman said that the provisions
under the Clustering part of the Ordinance state that the
by-laws must be acceptable to the Town Board. Mr. Tooker
asked if the Planning Board wants this prepared preliminary
to the Final Hearing. He said that his intention was to
sell a few lots first. They had intended to create the
Association after three or four lots have been sold.
The Chairman said that he thinks it will have to be cleared
with the Town Attorney as to what is required.
In a further discussion, Mr. Raynor said that When
make that inclusive of your property prior to dedication.
The. Chairm&n said that we will want to we conform
with all~the requirements of the Section ing. Mr.
Tooker commented that it will help re than it
willl help us. It will create a depth Go thc I
was thinking of the property to the rear which abuts us on
the west. Those lo.ts are qui~e shallow. The Chairman said
that if ~ smootked out, approval ~f the Town
approval of the Town A~t0rney as far
as meeting rc of a Property Owners Association,
it could be done in a month or six wee~s. The Chairman
said that an application for Final approval has to be
filed. Under some circumstances this can be waived but
we are not prepared to do this on Clustering.
The Chairman asked if there was anyone else present
who wished to speak in ppposition. There was no response.
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Mr. Serge Traube and Mr. Howard Young came before
the Board in regard to Serge Traube & Associates sub-
division, East Cutchogue. Mr. Wickham said that there
is quite a low spot where the recreation area is. Mr.
Traube said that thenlowest spot is there but the
majority of the recreation area is not low. Mr. Raynor
asked if there was a specific reason for putting the
recharge basin in the location shown on the map instead
of up around Lots 17 and 18. You might eventually want
to put in a spur that connects with the main highway, east
and west. Mr. Howard Young Said that the reason is that
it is the lowest area. Mr. Raynor said that Lot No. 18 has
a dip in it; and asked the reason for the 25 foot access
on the south end. Mr. Young s~d that it's a more con-
venient access to the recreation area. Mr. Wickham asked
if theyhad thought of clustering on some of it. He
said that he is very familiar with this particular property.
There is a 10 foot contour and a 25 foot contour still on
the property. It's also very sandy. Mr. Traube said they
used to pl~nt potatoes on the whole thing. Mr~ Young
Said that the Environmental people will not sign a map
Under 40..000 sq. ft. knd that he knows a lot of developers
who would like to cluster as it saves money on roads but
~hen they are stuck with the Health Department when they
leave,here. Mr. Wickham said that he thinks the Rysko
property is quite narrow and that the next time the Board
looks at~ the map he would like to see the outlines of this
Rysko property, how much frontage there is, so we can
decide (when it's sold, and it has been up for sale) what
sort ®f~connections would be required. Rysko is up for sale
to settle an estate. Mr. Raynor said that they m~ght want
a connection where the circular turn-around is at some
future time. Mr. Wickham said that it was his opinion that
it was more important to have the connections north and to
the east rather than to the south. Mr. CoYle said tkat
they don~'t want any more openings on the Main Road than
they have to have. Mr. Young said that the lots are all over
60,000 sq. ft., and he believes that the recreation area
is larger than required. Mr. Wickham commented that it is
21 lo~s out of 24 1/2 acres. You could put a connection
across to the east and maintain the same number of lots
becaUse you have plenty of frontage.
Mr. Rayn0r asked how long Mr. Tra~be had held this
property, and~Mr. Traube replied "about seven years".
Mr. Raynor ~sa~d that the Planning Board will need a
disclosure of all the owners and principles. Mr. Young
said that 'he hoped they could proceed with the Preliminary
after making these changes.
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The Chairman read letter from Mr. Joseph Saland,
dated August 8, 1973, as follows: "I am of this date
hand carrying 11 revised prints of Elijahs Associates
Subdivision to the Town Clerk and one revised print to
Ray Dean, Superintendent of Highways. These have been
revised along the lines recommended by the Soil Con~
servation Service and Mr. Dean. At your hearing of
August 28, I am respectfully applying for preliminary
approval and the release of one lot."
The Chairman referred to letter from Mr. Charles
Barnett, Suffolk County Soil and Water Conservation
District, dated July 27, 1973, in which he stated that
"from a strictly structural point of view it would appear
best to raise the level of the road and other adjacent
land around the basin, to obtain maximum storage within
a minimum area. This may also result in increased highway
safety features."
Mr. Joseph Saland stated that Mr. Ray Dean did not see
any sense in raising it. It has been that way for some
time. Mr. Wickham said that we will have to get a report
from the Town Superintendent of Highways. The last letter
we had from Mr. Dean was dated June 26th. Mr. Saland said
that he had called him since that time and discussed recharge
basins and drainage of the road and asked him to send a
letter in. Mr. Raynor asked Mr. Saland if he was going to
apply for Section I. Mr. Saland said that he is and asked
for the release of Lot No. 12. Mr. Moisa asked Mr. Saland
if he is going to do anything on the roads. Mr. Saland
said "No". We gave 60 feet against the Long Island Rail-
road which we thought would be a nice buffer. I think
the minimum size lot is better than 150 feet. I would like
to apply for a preliminary hearing, and I would like to
have Lot No. 12 released tonight. The Chairman said that
this lot is on the highway so there will be no problem.
we have to write a letter to the Building Inspector authorizing
it. You have to get{~approval of the County BOard of Health.
Mr. Saland said we have submitted test wells to the Board
of Health. The readings should be in their files. Mr.
Wickham said that he thought M r. Saland was in good enough
position to present this although Mr. Saland may want to
present as a single seCtion. Mr. Howard Young of Young &
Young asked if a public hearing could be held on the whole
thing. Mr. Wickham said you would have to put a bond on the
highways for the whole thing. Mr. Wickham said that we have
never done it this way. For sections you want to f~le, do
it as you see fit. Either build or put up performance bonds
and roads in that section. Mr. Young said that they would
need a "meets and bounds" description of Section I. Mr.
Wickham suggested that they might be able to get County
Board of Health approval on the whole thing.
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Mr. Saland said that the Board of Health has checked
the test wells and test holes. Mr. Wickham said that
Mr. Saland would need a letter fr~m the Board of Health
and one from the Superintendent of Highways. Mr. Saland
asked if he could request a preliminary hearing. Mr.
Raynor said that he could have a preliminary hearing subject
to obtaining letters from the Board of Health and the
Superintendent of Highways.
On motion of Mr. Raynor, seconded by Mr. Moisa, it was
RESOLVED that the Planning Board will hold a hearing
for preliminary approval of Elijahs Associates Subdivision
on Sc~ember 18, 1973, at 7:30 P.M., at the Town Office,
Main Road, Southold. The hearing is conditioned on receipt
of approvals of the County Board of Health and the
Superin~tendent of Highways.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Moisa, Raynor, Coyle,
Wickham.
Gary Olsen, Esq. came before the Board in regard to
Grcenfields Sub division, Southold. Mr. Olsen said that
this is just a preliminary sketch. I have had test wells
m-~ade satisfactory to the Department of Health. Mr. Raynor
asked about the area for drainage. Mr. Otsen asked "Do
we need it?". Mr. Raynor replied that the Highway
Department wants something in the recharge area. Mr.
Wickham said that the park and playground area is one of the
lowest areas, if not the lowest. Mr. olsen said that this
has city water and test wells have b~sn dug~ Mr. Wickham
said that we have kind of a working a~rangement with the
County Soil and Water District. Some~times we present to
them sUbdivi~sions ~nd ask for their s~gestions about
drainage systems. It would seem that some sort of drainage
field, or something of the sort, could be tied in with
your park and playground, and we might have some interesting
ideas on the subject. We will write a letter and send
maps to the County Soil and Water COnservation District
for suggestions. You are required to have drainage to take
care cf storms. These people specialize in this sort of
thing. We will also need the Superintendent of Highways
comments as far as Tuckers Lane is concerned.
On motion by Mr. Wickham, seconded by Mr. Moisa, it was
RESOLVED that a request be sent to the County Soil
and Water Conservation District for comments with regard
to drainage on the Greenfields Subdivision.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Raynor, Moisa, Coyle,
Wickham.
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Gary Olsen, Esq. inquired about a preliminary hearing
for Oregon View Estates. Mr. Wickham said that the Board
would review it and Mr. Olsen could call tomorrow.
ISadore Scheinberg, Esq., Howard Young of Young & Young,
and Mr~ and Mrs. Ihar came before the Board on John Fellinger
Ihar p~oposed cluster. Mr. Scheinberg said that we are
going ko withdraw this application immediately because we
had a.discussion today with Alden Young. He had called
Bob Villa and he indicated that the cluster problem had not
been cleared up with the Health Department and the Environ-
mental Department is gi~ing a great deal of difficulty.
So, in,its place, Howard Young got up another preliminary
plan for us. Instead of the cluster concept we are going
to the open space scenic easement concept. We have 23 lots,
the same as we had on the other plan, each is a minimum
40,000 sq. ft. They actually average around 43,000 sq. ft.
The concept would be to build on one half of each lot.
Mr. Wiekham said that this would be roughly 2,700 feet down
to Oregon Road, and we will want one or possibly two highway
connections through here to the adjoinin~ property. It looks
as though you would have no trouble getting one. Do you
have it in conjunction with your open space? Could you get
two connections? Mr. Raynor said that he did not think they
would need two connections, part of it would be on the north
end of that property. Mr. Raynor asked "how buildable is
Lot 23?" Mr. SCheinberg said it is very buildable; werhave
a buitding permit to put a house up there. Mr. Wickham
askedMr. Young to give us a contour for some of this adjoining
property when he does the contour for khe Ihar proPerty.
Mr. Raynor said that the scenic easement is to be laid out in
perpetuity:. Mr. Wickham asked if it would pose any problem
to have a scenic easement on individual 10ts. You are selling
to your ~pr0spective owner a lot roughly one third of which is
Covered byiperpetual scenic easement. Mr. Scheinberg~ said
we will convey easement prior to sale. It will be subject to
easement. Mr. Young said it would have to be in the Deed.
Mr. Scheinberg said we hope we can sell the lots that way.
We are willing to take that risk.
Mr. Raynor said that as long as you have to put a road in
somewhere, you might consider turning some of these lots
around to give a little more width, to square up the lots
and make them a little bit more saleable. Mr. Young said the
idea of clustering has people living on a smaller piece but
they will get an easement over everyone else's property. I
don't think we would want the connecting road all the way
through.
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Mr. Wickham said the next thing is to see if you can
put in a highway connection. I think we should send it to
Charles Barnett for ideas on drainage.
Mr. Howard Young of Young & Young appea~ed before the
Board on Fiair~ay Farms, Cutchogue. Mr. Wick~am said we
have to gelt some agreement from the Town Highway Committee
and the developer,s and the Highway Superintendent that
some backup is goiing to be provided on the drainage. We
feel we have to h~ave some backup. Mr. Young said "I thought
this was all clea~ed up". Mr. Wickham said we got a
recommenda.tion from Mr. Barnett but we are loathe to accept
it. We don't have anything in writings. Mr. Wickham said
that we don't need to put the reservation~ on as long as
we hear from the developers that it will be done this way.
This is open space. Mr. Young said that he thought there
would be a. resolution to approve. Mr. Wickham said that
we have ~ad a pub!li~ hearing, the next step will be a final
hearing. We are ~oiing to hold two hearings on everything.
In all fairness, we: have been unable to get a commitment
from the H!ighway Committee. We have sent letters all
prepared for thei~ signatures. Mr. Raynor said that he
thought we should: a!lso get a letter from the Highway
Department. Mr. ~ickham ~said that is Mr. Babcock's job;
he will have to get a letter of approval .from the Highway
Superintendent. Mr. Raynor s~id he would like to see
a reserva~iion put on Lot No. 20. If you put it in the
park and recreation, area you will have difficulty. Mr.
Young said the map is filed in the County Clerk's office;
they picked Lot No. 9, you said Lot No. 10 or 20. As far
as I am concerned, it makes, no difference. Mr. Young said
he hoped we would inform Mr. Babcock about this.
On mo~ion by Mr. Wickham, seconded by Mr. Coyle, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Engineer be.instructed to
p~epare a Bond Estimate on Fairway Farms.
Vo~e of the B~ard: Ayes:- Messrs: Raynor, Moisa,
Coyle, Wickham.
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Mr. Richard Nagy had a discussion with the Board
about a pond area in Orient on which he thought that no
permission had been given for fill to go in. Mr.
Wickham said that technically Mr. Bob Douglas does not
have permission because the subdivision did not receive
preliminary approval. Mr. Nagy complained that there is
a lot of trash from buildings going up. Mr. Wickham
explained that the Board had no means of enforcement;
that this would be under garbage and refuse. Mrs. Lorraine
Terry had a discussion with the Board about similar viola-
tions. It was suggested that a summons be given to the
driver of the truck.
Rudolph Bruer, Esq. and Mr. James Kavanagh came before
the Board with regard to Crescent Beach site plan. Mr.
Bruer said that we were before the Board of Appeals at the
last meeting. What we intend to do is to change the motel
units to condominiums. ~ Board of Appeals granted subject
to certain restrictions, which we will see Thursday. Also,
subject to site plan approval of the Planning Board. Mr.
Bruer showed the Board a survey of the premises. It is
zoned Multiple. I think you all know the area. As I said,
the Board of Appeals has gone along subject to certain
conditions which they did not have time to list at the
last meeting. It is our opinion that it is "upzoning"
from transient use to more permanent use. Mr. Kavanagh is
here and one of his ideas is that it will be definitely
limited to seasonal use. I think we stated that we would be
limited to senior citizens (50 years and over). It would
also be limited to a maximum of seven month's use. This is
an existing physical plant. (Mr. Bruer showed the Board
the section' that would be cut out for Mr. Kavanagh's home).
It's approximately 5 acres for the motel; about 5 acres with
the barn. Mr. Kavanagh said that he has City water and cess-
pools. Mr. Raynor asked what the square footage of the
buildings is. Mr. Kavanagh replied "500 sq. ft. and they
would own the area in common." Mr. Raynor asked what
the elevation is; and Mr. Kavanagh said about 10 or 12 feet
above high tide. In severe storms it did not even go near
the units. Mr. Wickham asked if all condominiums have to
go through the Attorney General. Mr. Bruer said "Yes", it
is not exactly a quick process. We thoUght we would start
here. Mr. Bruer said that there is an existing road but it
is proposed to put in a road as outlined on this map. Mr.
Wickham said that it is his understanding that this is an
"M" zone. Mr. Bruer said "Yes". under the Ordinance for
condominiums we have to get a variance from the Board of
Appeals, a new certificate of occupancy, and site plan approval
of the Planning Board.
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Mr. Bruer said the Board of Appeals has approved
subject to conditions and suggested that the Planning
Board might want to confer with them. Mr~ Wickham
said that the Board would want some sort o:f reasonably
scaled map showing the road. Mr. Bruer said that with
the length of time this is going to take, I think if we
could get some sort of preliminary approval, it might aid
us as far as expenses are concerned. Mr. Wickham said that
the Board normally has much more complete maps. This is
a rough sketch. ~The location of the buildings is sketched
in. My point is that I would guess that the Planning Board
would say "Yes". This looks like a good idea but we want
to know how far above sea level it is, what type of roads,
what type of parking you are prepared to provide, how
far from side yard boundaries, how far each unit is away
from each other. Mr. Kavanagh said that he wanted to
change the road to give himself some privacy, and there
is a road in front that I would eliminate. Mr. Bruer said
that he thought a physical examination by the Board might
set their minds at rest. Mr. Raynor said that a member
or members of the Board would go to see it.
Rduolph Bruer, Esq. appeared before the Board with
regard to Clement W. Booth minor subdivision. M~r.
Wickham said that the sketch plan was approved July 16, 1973
when we made recommendations.
On motion by Mr. Raynor, seconded by Mr. Coyle, it was
RESOLVED that Minor Subdivision of Clement W. Booth,
Southold, New York, be approved.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Moisa, Raynor,
Coyle, Wickham.
Mr. Bruer discussed with the Board the Pontino Sub-
division map. Mr. Bruer said that the water tes~ showed
up at 11; we also had a good one, 6.8. Mrs. Pontino has a
receipt on it. What we would like to do is to prepare a
map showing the road, moving everything down, and holding
this until such time as it clears up, and get approval of
Section I. Mr. Raynor said that he would make the stipu-
lation that Section II does not get refiled. Mr. ~ontino
said that it has gone down 2 points. Mr. Wickham said that
perhaps before the final hearing you will have it, if the
water is tested again. You might want to have a hearing on
Section I and Section II if the water clears up. Mr.
Raynor said that the only access to the west of this
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property ends up on a corner. It has to come from the north.
Mr. Bruer stated that he would have a layout prepared, and
that they would get all the owners and the elevations.
MST Construction Corp., proposed adult home, Factory
Avenue, Mattituck was scheduled for 8:50 P.M. No representative
appeared before the Board. There is not enough information
for any action of the Board.
Mr. Nelson Axien discussed the map of Peconic Knolls
with the Board. He said that this is very fragile land
and it has steep slopes. There is a very bad clay condition
in that area and you could have very severe eros].on; you will
have to be selective with your contours. Mr. Raynor asked how
big the lots were in the subdivision to the north. Mr. Axien
said "under two acres". This land is very fragile because of
the steep slopes.
Mr. Robert Schroeder came before the Board in regard to
Soundcrest Woods, Section II, East Marion. Mr. Schroeder
said that we want to keep it private. About 20 years ago
we planted small pines all down this line (referring to map),
and I w0.uld hate to lose them so I decided to keep it private.
Mr. Ra}~r asked about the height of the bluff. Mr. Schroeder
said abOUt 28 feet; it's beautiful~ no erosion. My beach has
always been ~n good condition. Once in a while I lose a little
bit in a storm, but in the Spring it's back. What is the set-
back supposed to be. Mr. Raynor said "usually 100 feet".
(Mr. Schroeder gave the Board four copies of the map). The
Cha.irman said, we can set this up for a preliminary hearing
very quickly. You are going to have to post a .Bond or
build a road. M~. Schroeder. said ke probabis~ would build a
road. The Chairman said that we can'% ~ive you final approval
Until ~OU p~t up a Bond or els~¢onstruct the road. ~e can
g~ve you preliminary approval,-~d give you time enough to do
the engineering. Mr. Schr°e~er said he did not have anything
to clear there but one or two trees. I want to cut the road through.
Mr. Moisa told ~r. Schroeder that he would have to see Ray Dean,
Superintendent of Highways. Mr. Wickham told him that from the
date that you officially submit it (this is the time when you
pay your fee) we are only allowed 45 days to hold a preliminary
hearing. From the preliminary hearing, we have around six
months for a final hearing-, and after that 45 days. We are
talking about nine months. If you want more time you submit
a request to extend it for three months (in writing), and we
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would say "yes". Mr. Schroeder said he wanted to put
drainage where the low spots are. The Chairman told Mr.
Schroeder that the first thing to do is to take it to
Ray Dean and have him give us a letter of approval; then
we can set up a preliminary. You need to come in here
and make out an application and pay the fee. You will
need twelve copies of the maps and profiles two weeks
prior to our meeting.
On motion by Mr. Wickham, seconded by Mr. Raynor, it was
RESOLVED that the Planning Board will hold a hearing
for preliminary approval of Lorraine Hochman Subdivision,
Syloret Estates,on September 18, 1973, at 7:50 P.M., at
the To%~ Office', Main Road, Southold.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Moisa, Raynor, Coyle,
GreL~ Wickham.
On motion by Mr. Wickham, seconded by Mr. Raynor, it was
RESOLVED tkat the Planning Board wilt hold a hearing
for preliminary approval of Oregon View Estates Subdivision
on September 18, 1973, at 8:10 P.M., at the Town Office,
Main Road, .Southold. The hearing is conditioned on cut-off
of road; Lots-23 and 24 shall abut each other.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Moisa, Raynor, Coyle,
Wickham.
A motion was regularly made, seconded and carried, to
have Town Enq±neer p~epare Bond Estimates for Fairway Farms
and Crown Land Lane, Inc.
Mr. Raynor read letter received from Joan Widmayer,
333 West 57th Street, New York City, regarding lots .203 and
204, corner of Old Cove Road and Wunneweta on Nassau Point.
The letter was referred to Mr. Howard Terry, Building
Inspector, for his co~ents.
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Mr. Wickham said that in answer to our requests we
have received a number of copies of REPORT from Vermont
and New Jersey.
On motion by Mr. Raynor, seconded by Mr. Coyle, it was
RESOLVED that the next regular meeting of the Planning
Board be September 4, 1973, at 7:30 P.M., at the Town Office,
Main Road, Southold, New York.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Moisa, Raynor, Coyle,
Wickham.
On motion of Mr. Wickham~ seconded by Mr. Raynor, it was
RESOLVED that the minutes of July 30, 1973, August 9, 1973,
and Aucust 16, 1973, meetings of the Planning Board be approved.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Moisa, Raynor, Coyle,
Wickham.
The Meeting was adjourned at 11:20 P.M.
John Wickham, Chairman
Respectfully submitted,
Marjorie McDermott, Secretar7
Southold Town Planning Board