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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPB-11/15/1973$ou old Town Planning Board E3DUTHDLD~ L. I., N. Y. 119'71 PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS John Wlckham, 0halrman Henry Mo,isa Alfred Grebe Henry Raynor Prank Coyle MINUTES SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD November 15, 1973 A regular meeting of the Southold Town Planning Board was held at 7:30 P.M., Thursday, November 15, 1973, at the Town Office, Main Road, Southold, New York. There were present: Messrs: Henry Moisa, Vice Chairman; Henry Raynor; Frank S. Coyle; Alfred Grebe. Also present: Mr. and Mrs. Philip R. Marriner, Mrs. Jean Tiedke, Mrs. Lorraine Terry. Vice Chairman Henry Moisa called the meeting to order for the hea~ing for final approval of map of property known as Little Neck Properties, owned by P. J. Ventures. Mr~ Henry Raynor read the legal notice of hearing, as follows: "NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that pursuant to Section 276 of the Town Law, a public hearing will be held by the $outhold Town Planninq B0a~d at the TOW~ office, Main ~oad,~S0Uthold, New York, in said Town om the 15th;%~.ay of November, 19~3 at 7:30 OiCllOCk in the evening of ~Said d'a~, on the question of the final approwal of the following plat: Southold Town Planning Board -2- November 15, 1973 Plat of property owned by P. J. Ventures, entitled Little Neck Properties, consisting of a parcel of land situated at East Cutchogue, in the Town of Southold, County of Suffolk, and State of New York. Any person desiring to be heard on the above matter should appear at the-time and place above specified. Dated: November 1, 1973 BY ORDER OF THE SOUTHOLD TOB~ PLanNING BOARD JOHN WICKH~, CHAIRMAN" Mr. Raynor also read the affidavits of publication in the Suffolk Times and the Long Island Traveler-Mattituck Watchman. F~-. MOISA: A description of the property was read at the preliminary hearing. Robert Tooker, Esq., representing Little Neck Properties, stated that Mr. Tasker, the Town Attorney, had asked for two changes of Covenants and Restrictions, pages 7 and 9. On Page 7 (c) he requested that we include "These expenses shall include maintenance charges". On Page 9 the second sentence under (N) has been taken out as Mr. Tasker was fearful that it meant we could add something. (Mr. Tooker presented the Secretary with. new pages 7 and 9 to replace the existing ones). Mr. Moisa read letter from the Superintendent of Highways, as follows: "I have inspected the map lay-out of LITTLE NECK PROPERTIES and recommend that ample drainage will be made on building lots abutting town roads." Mr. Moisa also read letter from the Southold Town Board, as follows: "At the Town Bcard meeting, August 16, 1973, the members of the Southold Town. Board studied the sketch plan of cluster development for East Cutchogue, Little Neck Properties. After the members had had an opportunity to study the plans they felt that they liked it, the concept, of this plan for Little Neck Properties, East Cutchogue. (Signed) Albert M. Martocchia Supervisor" Southold Town Planning Board -3- November 15, 1973 It was noted that in the file there is a bond estimate in the amount of $15,000. Mr. Tooker said that that is from a previous plan because there are no roads to be constructed on this one. That was estimated before we went to the cluster concept. Mr. Tooker said that when he was at a previous meeting he told the Board that a letter was coming from Mr. Colvin. The letter never came so I sent somebody to Stony Brook yesterday and picked up the letter. I will now give you a copy of the letter. They are really not interested in the matter because we are more than 300 feet from wetlands. We are within a 100 feet or so of a very long creek. There are several houses on the road between us and the creek. (Mr. Moisa read the letter from the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation, addressed to Robert L. Tooker, Esq., dated November 14, 1973, as follows:) "Re: Little Neck Properties, East Cutchogue, New York Reference is made to your request for information regarding requirements of the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation with. respect to the construction of homes on the above subdivision. An inspection of U. S. Coast and Geodetic Chart No. 363 reve&ls that all proposed lots are more than 300 feet from any tidal wetland. Therefore, in accordance with 6 NYCRR, Part 660.1 (i) (4), no permit will be required from the Department of Environmental Conservation for the construction of these homes pursuant to Environmental Con- servation Law, Article 25. (Signed) Gordon C. Colvin Alternate Local Permit Agent" MR. HENRY MOISA~ Vice Chairman: I believe all the required data ms includedl We.will open the hearing to anyone who wishes to speak against this subdivision. MRS'. JEAN TIEDKE: May I ask a question? Who are the owners? ROBERT TOOKER, ESQ.: Mr. JM~es F. Reeve has one half, and my wife has the other half. It's Margaret Tooker and James Reeve. MR. MOISA: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak against the approval of this subdivision? Southold Town Planning Board -4- November 15, 1973 MR. MOISA: Hearing no opposition, I now ask if there is anyone present who wishes to speak in favor of the subdivision? ROBERT TOOKER, ESQ: I would like to express my appreciation to the Board for all the patience you have shown. I think it is a good concept which you will probably expand on in the years ahead. We are pleased to lead the way in clusters. I believe it will not only be good for the people in the subdivision but the people next door will benefit by more comfortable back- yards. MR. HENRY MOISA: I believe this will be beneficial and puts a foot in the front door as regards clustering. There has been some good word from the County level regarding clustering. I think we will be able to proceed in the future on this type of development. MR. MOISA: Does anyone else wish to speak? MR. MOISA: Hearing no reply, I will declare the hearing closed. Mr. Tooker asked when the maps would be signed so they could file them and make their arrangements for building. Mr. Moisa stated that the Board would come to a decision later on in the evening. Vice Chairman Henry Moisa called the hearing to order for preliminary approval of map of property known as Inlet East Estates, owned by Donald A. Denis, William W. Esseks, and Bennett Stark. Mr. Henry Raynor read the legal notice of hearing, as follows: 10" E. 366.00 feet; .(2) N. 29° 58' 20" W. 301.88 fset to the land now or formerly of A. W. Bigelow; thence and northSrty ~long ~he land now or formerly of A. the following courses and distances: (1) N. 50~ 53' 50" E. 239.27 fe~t; (2) N. 39° 06' 10" W. 25.00 feet to a point in the southerly line of Harborvlew Avenue; thence easterly along the sOutherly line of Harborview Avenue the following courses and Southold Town Planning Board -5- November 15, 1973 distances: (1) 78° 18' 40" E. 114.29 feet; (2) N~ 81° 25' 50" E. 123.10 feet; (3} N. 71~ 41' 00" E. 116.94 feet; (4) N. 70° 11' 20" E. 217.68 feet to the land now or formerly of Doris D. Reeve; thence southerly and easterly along the lane now or formerly of Doris D. Reeve the following courses and distances: (1) S. 19° 48' 40" E. 158.13 feet; (2) N. 74° 36' 30" E. 212.14 feet to a point in the westerly line of Reeve Avenue; thence S. 15° 23' 30" E. along the.westerly line of Reeve Avenue 627.31 feet to the point or place of BEGINNING. Any person desiring to be heard on the above matter should appear at the time and place above specified. Dated: November 1, 1973 BY ORDER OF THE SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD JOHN WICKHAM, CHAIRMAN Mr. Henry Raynor also read the affidavits of publication in the Suffolk Weekly Times and the Long Island Traveler- Mattituck Watchman. MR. HENRY RAYNOR: There is a letter from Mr. Edward J. Bage, our Town Engineer, dated October 24, 1973, as follows: "In response to your request for me to review the preliminary map of Inlet East Estates sub,division, I submit the following comments. Using data available from the Soil Conservation Service, the recharge basin is adequate in size to hold the volume of run-off that can be expected. The plan calls for construction of the recharge basin to be in accordance with the Town Highway Specifications. In reviewing this specification I find that no mention of the composition of the bottom of the recharge basin is made. The bottom of the basin should be sand or sand and gravel with no interveninq layer of other material until ground water is reached." (The letter above was addressed to Mr. Raymond C. Dean, Superintendent of Highways, with copy to Planning Board). MR. MOISA: We are going to have to have a letter of recommendation from Mr. Dean for our files. However, I think we have enough material for a preliminary hearing. MR. WILLIAM ESSEKS:, The test wells and wells have been dug. I hope to have this week a statement from the Health Department and from the Sewer Agency. I understand we have Southold Town Planning Board -6- November 15, 1973 to get State approval because we are within 300 feet of wetlands. MR. MOISA: They will either give you a letter stating you are not within their jurisdiction or you will have to get a permit from them. MR. ESSEKS: I will go to the Health Department first and then to the State, and then we will need a bond estimate. MR. MOISA: We refer it to the Town Engineer, he reports to us, and we make a recommendation to the Town Board. The Town Board has to approve it. I don't believe you have to wait for the Board of Health and Environmental before going to the State. You will have to send maps. MR. RAYNOR: You will need a topographic map showing the land going towards wetlands~ MR. HENRY MOISA: I will now open the hearing to anyone who wishes to speak against this subdivision. (There was no response.) MRS. JEAN TIEDKE: Was not there some discussion about drainage? MR. RAYNOR: It was sent to the New York State Soil & Water Conservation Department. Everything has been redrawn and resubmitted to comply to the recommendations of Mr. Charles Barnett. MRS. TIEDKE: Will that have to be fenced in? MR. HENRY RAYNOR: That would be part of the Superintendent of Highways responsibility. MR. MOISA: I think this should be resolved before the final hearing. MRS. TIEDKE: When this is fenced in is there allowance for landsCaping? MR. RAYNOR: That would be included in bOnding. MR. MOISA: Does anyone wish to speak for this subdivision? Southold Town Planning Board -7- November 15, 1973 MR. WILLIAM ESSEKS: I wish to reiterate what we have been saying for several months. MR. MOISA: Does anyone else wish to speak in favor of this subdivision? (There was no response.) MR. HENRY RAYNOR: I have one comment in regard to Lot No. 10. I still think it's a matter of poor planning and layout although it does meet Town requirements. I don't think it is in the interests of good planning. MR. ESSEKS: The-alternative is to give up one of the four valuable lots in the 16 acres. It would mean a loss of $25,OO0. MR. RAYNOR: I just want you to know that I don't agree with this type of development. MR~ MOISA: I think this layout was originally discussed, and this was an alternative plan that we came up with that was suitable to all parties concerned. MR. MOISA: I will now declare the hearing closed. MR. HENRY MOISA, Vice Chairman: I will call the meeting to order for the hearing on final map of East Hill, Sec. I subdivision, owned by Mr. John Pontino. Mr. He~ry Raynor read the legal notice of hearing as follows: NOTICE IF HERE~Y GIVEN that pursuant to Section 276 of the Town Law~a ?ublic hearing will be held by the Southold Town ~anning Boa~d~at the Town Office, Main Road, Southold, New York, in said Town on the 15th day of November, 1973, at S:00 o'clock in the evening of same day, on the question of final approwal of the following plat: Plat of property oWned by John Pontino, entitled.~ast Hill, S~ction I, consisting of ~a parcel of land sitUate, lying and being at Peconic, in the Town of Southold, C6unty of Suffolk, and State of New York, bounded and describe~ as ~ollows: MR. HENRY RAYNOR: We will dispense with the reading of the description since it was read. at the p~eliminary hearing. Southold Town Planning Board -8- November 15, 1973 Any person desiring to be heard on the above matter should appear at the time and place above specified. Dated: November 2, 1973 BY ORDER OF THE SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD JOHN WICKHAM, CHAIRMAN Mr. Raynor read letter dated October 11, 1973 from the Superintendent of Highways, as follows: "I have spoken with the Highway Committee and we suggest that approximately one-half an acre be dedicated to the Town of Southold. from the Park and Playground area for future use as a recharge basin." The file also contains a letter of disclosure and a letter of transmittal from the Town Clerk. MR. HENRY MOISA: Everything is in order to date. No bond estimate is needed. RUDOLPH BRUER, ESQ.: If I may interject, the surveyor took a map to Mr. Dean's office. All he wanted was that we give him a right of way. MR. RAYNOR: Specifications call for the construction of a recharge basin. MR. BRUER: I will ask Mr. Dean for a letter on it. My understanding was that he did not want it but he wanted the right to have the Town have it in the future. I will ask him to deliver such a letter. MR. MOISA: We would like to know whether we are required to have a Performance Bond included in this. It would be up to him to tell us, it would be his decision. MR. BRUER: It is my recollection that he did not want it at this moment but was thinking of the future for the Town to be able to have it and service it. MR. HENRY MOISA: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak against Chis subdivision? MR. MOISA: Hearing no opposition, I will ask if there is anyone who ~i~hes to speak for this subdivision? Southold Town Planning Board -9- November 15, 1973 MRS. JEAN TIEDKE: I.would like to ask a question. Does the park and playground area also serve as a recharge area? MR. RAYNOR: He has more than enough area, a total of approximately 65,000 sq. ft. MR. MOISA: This is nothing new. We~have always included the recharge area in Park and Playground. MR. HENRY MOISA, Vice Chairman: Does anyone wish to speak for this subdivision? RUDOLPH BRUER, ESQ.: I would like to reiterate everything we have said over the past few months. I ask that it be approved without any bond subject to a letter from the Superintendent of Highways with respect to a recharge basin. MR. MOISA: I will now declare this hearing closed. Rudolph Bruer, Esq. presented to the Board a sketch of the proposed Crescent Beach condominiums showing distances and elevations. Mr~ Raynor asked for the height of the buildings. Mr. James Kavanagh, the owner of Crescent Beach Motel, said that they are one story buildings, approximately 12 feet in height. Mr. Frank Coyle said that he had looked over the premises and could see no reasan to delay approval. Mr. Bruer said that the Board of Appeals has approved it subject to Planning Board approval. Mr. Moisa suggested that Mr. Bruer call the Planning Board office in the morning for the decision of the Board. Mr. Rudolph Bruer presented to the Board a large color map of the proposed Pebble Beach subdivis&~n. The Board said they would discuss this subdivision later on tonight. Richard Cron, Esq. came before the Board for a Hearing on the Joseph Wiederman & John Gilowski Minor Subdivision. MR~ HENRYMOISA, Vice Chairman: We have looked this pro- posed subdivision over several times and it seems to comply with all the ~egulations. We have the application and fee and a letter signed by the applicants to the effect that no application shall be made in the future to further subdivide the minor sub- division as shown on the Van Tuyl map dated October 10, 1973. Southold Town Planning Board -10- November 15, 1973 MR. RAYNOR: Could we ask for something of a little broader scope regarding assignees including heirs? MR. CRON: This was taken from an identical one that was done in the past but I.will be glad to follow up with a statement. They are wi~linq to bind themselves. If you have a particular form I have no objection to using it. MR. MOISA: DoeS anyone wish to speak against this Minor Subdivision? (There was no response.) MR. MOISA: Does anyone wish to speak, for this subdivision? RICHARD CRON, ESQ.: I would like to say a few words. I represent the applicants, Joseph Wiederman & ~ohn Gilowski. This is the third time I have been before the Board and I believe that we have exhausted all matters pertaining to it. It obviously meets requirements and more than meets the present Ordinance. We~see no affect environmentally, or otherwise, and request an approval. MRS. JEAN TIEDKE: Does this front on Old North Road? MR. CRON: Yes. MR. MOISA: They have a 50 foot right of way. MR~ MOISA: Does anyone else wish to speak for this subdivision? Hearing no reply, I will declare the hearing closed and we will make our decision later on this evening. Wi!~iam ~i~kham, Esq. came before the .~with application and sur~ysl 0f ~inor Subdivision, ~ES~.e~ tt, Mattituck, N~w i~ork. Mr. Wickham M. Mutti~t Es~at~on. Lon~ creek just eas~ of the bridge Was taken d°Wh and north of the creek, i w~ the tax map of ~hat area. (Mr. Wickham and the Board studied the tax maP). .g for a subdivision of three parcels, one was acquired separately by the Will of his father. The reason we are asking for this subdivision of the property is that we have to sell the property to pay debts and' funeral expenses. There are a lot of heirs and not much in the way Of funds. We have to sell and distribute cash to th~ variouS leqatees. We are trying to do it in the most expedient way. We fel~ that Southold Town Planning Board -11- November 15, 1973 by dividing the bigger parcel into bwo we could more readily sell it for a cash figure. We asked Mr. Young of Young & Young to come up with a proposal for a Minor Subdivision. Mr. Moisa said that there is only one lot of the three that would meet our requirements. We can not approve of anything under 40,000 sq. ft. Mr~ Wickham said that this was separate from the beginning. He sold par~ of it off a few years ago. We have straightened out the right of way to give more area and we could include the right o:f way. This parcel is a little out of character to the rest of the area. You will notice smaller parcels'along Grand Avenue. Even the new ones north of Maple Avenue are less than one acre in size. We just have to sell and do it the most expedient way we can. Mr. Moisa said that he thinks the Board of Appeals.will have to be drawn into this. Mr. Raynor said that we just finished WOrking on one similar to this in Southold. The Planning Board and the Board of Appeals got together and worked out a variance for one lot and made the other two 40,000 sq. ft., and this seemed to be a workable solution. I wonder if, by changing the lot line, you could pick up the footage necessary. You have access on Grand Avenue. How important are these structures here? Mr. Wickham said that the buildings are sheds and not very important. I think I can do some shifting around. There is a lot of good frontage. If we can get two 40,000 sq. ft. lots we might be able to get a variance on the other one. Mr~ Raynor said that under this setup he believes that the'Planning Board would be willing to talk to the Board of Appeals. Mr. Wickham said that he would get back to the Planning Board as soon as possible. came before the Board for an informal piece of property adjoining his office, across the Feet from Glover's barn, 21 acres. Mr. Ahlers said that there were people who were interested in it before he was and they U~division. ThiS.ldeal~ ha through concerned. I get your fee!ings~ showed a~map to t Mr. Glover 16 one acre lots. I would suggest clustering as it would make for a nicer area~. We could have a buffer between Business Property and ~A" Residential. Mr. Frank Coyte asked if the Southold Town Planning Board -12- November 15, 1973 property was zoned for Business now. Mr. Ahlers indicated on the map where he was zoned Business. Mr.rMoisa said that he would suggest that Mr. Ahlers make an application. We could go on with it from there~ Mr. Ahlers said that the general slope is toward the back. I was thin~ing of putting an addition on the back back of my existing building b~t it would be three to four feet above floor level. I thought if I could go to the side it might be be~ter. If everything was kept down at this end (referring to map) it would leave approximately eight acres that could be left open. Mr. Moisa said that as far as clustering is concerned there is nothing we can enlighten you on. We are at a stalemate with the Department of Environmental Control. The hang-up is sewage disposal. Everything that is done has to be done by special exception at this time. Mr. Raynor said that this would have to go to the County also because of its location to the Main Road. Maybe you would want to explore that with them before you come back to us. Mr. Raynor suggested that Mr. Ahlers check with Mr. Wickham and contact Mr. Charles Lind. Mr. Ahters said that with regard ~0 Southold Commons, we are going into contract this week with Purification Systems. We will be signing a contract for the sewage treatment plant. We hope to get this under way next Spring. Environmental Control takes six months to a year to approve. They have made their preliminary comments. We are going ahead with final engineering. In the meantime we are ordering equipment. I can get you a copy of the comments of the Department of Environmental Control. The Engineering Company is handling all the paper work. I will get it down to you. Mr. George Penny came before the Board with regard to the Luce-Penny subdivision. Mr. Penny told the Board that one lot would be omitt~d. Mr~ Meisa asked if it was under contract. Mr. Penny said it was "by word of mouth". Mr. Moisa said that normally we would consider it a part Of the subdiVision. You leave us with fi~e lots. There is no way we can approve a minor with five lots Or more. Our rules call for four lots of 40,000 sq, ft. each. "We have been going around with this on your suggestion for several months" Mr. Penny replied. Mr. Moisa said that he knew this had been before us before but it was larger and some lots were sold off. Mr. Raynor said that if Mr. Penny should go the route of a major subdivision he would run into construction costs. Mr~ Moisa said that he did not think the Board wouId look favorably on a minor subdivision. If you make this one lot (referring to map) we will insist on having a 50' right of way. Mr. Penny said that their intention was to make it one lot. I talked to Mr. Luce and he was not in good enough health to come down here. Our intention is to leave this as one Southold T~wn Planning Board -13- November 15, 1973 lot. Lot No. 6 will be eliminated. Mr. Moisa said that they would have to have some maps drawn. We will need six copies, plus an application in duplicate, plus a check for $40, $10 a lot. Mr. Coyle said that the Board would have to have a statement that it won't be subdivided again. Mr. P~nny said that there is no access to the creek. There is no way you can get to the creek without trespassing on someone's property. Mr. Robert Kart and Mr. Jerry Horton presented the Board with a preliminary map of Peconic Homes. Mr. Moisa said that he thought this fit in well with the locale. Our specifications call for 12 copies of the map for a major subdivision. The Superintendent of Highways and the Highway Committee will advi'~e you as to catch basins. Mr~ Raynor asked if they had been to the Board of Health. You have to have test wells. I don't think~it's within 300 feet of wetlands. Mr. Moisa stated that if it's within 300 feet it has to go to the State. When you get all the material necessary, we will set up a date for a preliminary hearing. Mr. Stephen G. Tsontakis appeared before the Board with maps, roadway profiles, and application for major subdivision Peconic Knolls, Inc. Mr. Moisa read letter dated November 10, 1973 Re~ Peconic Knolls, Inc.- S. Tsontakis & S. Waimey, as follows: "We, adjacent owners of property on the Sound, in Peconic, do wish to express our concern and opinions (constructive, we hope) with respect to the proposed division of land in Peconic Knolls. We believe that minimum 40,000 square feet building sites are not s~itabl~ for land of thiS character. Steep slopes erosion can bei. limi~d if the sites are limited. There is als0 a possible s~erious pro'blem with Clay. An adjacent parcel, to Lot 8, has a very serzous clay problem. On.the basis of site inspection and elevation data, it appea'rs that Lot 8 has over half its area about the same elevation of the 100 ft. drainage area adjacent -- certainly unsuitable for a building site, The i00 foot drainage area would not be adequate in a clay bed. In our opznlon Lots 8 and 9 together have barely enough land for one building site. Southold Town Planning Board -14- November 15, 1973 Lots 1 and 2 are different. About one half of their individual areas are upland, and one half steep slopes. If one places our Right-of-Way on the map (as we have done) all the land north of the Right-of-Way has a very steep drop-off, un suitable for building sites, and this comprises about one half of the lot areas. We are brought to the con- clusion that these two lots together make one building site. Lot 3 has very much low land elevations, and a collecting area for upland run-off water from adjacent land. The Peconic Knolls map does not show our Right-of-Way on it. Without this being shown, which we understand is required, it is impossible to determine how this affects the various lots. In fact, we believe that all of the plots should be considerably larger in view of the circumstances described above. We thank you for your consideration~ Sincerely yours, (Signed) Michael Youngman Ernest Hipwell Donald Harrington Nelson Axien ~neth ~/~ (TheBoard studied the Map of Peconic Knolls). Mr. Moisa said that the Planning Board will require that you show the present right of way. Mr. Raynor asked Mr. Tsontakis if he had waivers as far as the right of way is concerned. Mr. Tsontakis said that the last time he was before the Board he asked Mr. Wickham if he should see Mr. Dean about it. Mr. Wickham said he would take care of it so I did not do it. (The Secretary informed the Board that there has not as yet been a reply from Mr. Dean). Mr. Nelson Axien stated that the elvation of this building lot is about the same elevation as the drainage area. Mr. Tsontakis said that parts of it are, of course, since its abutting. Mr. Raynor said that the existing gra~ is not always the finished grade. Mr. Driscoll, Wh® was also present to speak for Peconic Knolls, saldlthat they had been working with the Mosquito Control people and that a lot of drainage ditches have been put on this property. The Mosquito Con,r01 people are working to drain all property down to Autumn Lake. Mr. Raynor asked if they had any test well data pertinent to this property. Mr. Tsont~kis said he did not have it with him but that as he remen~bered it, it was pretty good. Down about 5 feet we were getting to sa~d ~th some traces of clay and gravel. Mr. Raynor said they have not been marked on the map. Mr. Tsontakis said they were marked on the small map. Mr. Raynor asked if they had been to the Health Department with it, and Mr. Tsontakis said they had not. Mr. Moisa said they would also have to submit it to the Department of Environmental Control Southold Town Planning Board -15- November 15, 1973 pertaining to sewers. Mr. Raynor said that the Board will have to know the location of the right of way and whether the right of way will revert. Mr. Tsontakis said that they could do it that way. Mr. Coyle asked Mr. Tsontakis where he was going to get the fill. Mr. Tsontakis said we will cut some out and bring in whatever is necessary. I contend that all of these plots are buildable. It's a beautiful wooded area that we want to maintain as much as possible. The fact that it is uneven makes it possible to maintain it as natural and we only need to clear it to allow for buildings, Mr~ Tsontakis said he would like to remark on Mr. Axien's letterl Mr~ Axien said that the letter was not his alone. The other people could not appear personally. Mr. Tsontakis- said~that definitely all these plots are buildable. The engineering work that has been done indicates that we can make a decent road through here, that we can drain the properties, and also maintain the drainage which exists, which~ has been installed by Mosquito Control. We have been working in coQperation with these people to maintain through a new~ drainage area and through the existing ditch which event~ally drains into Autumn Lake and overflows into Goldsmiths Inlet. Mr~ Axien said that,these ditches run into Autumn Lake and there is a pipeline and there is no way to carry off the excess drainage. Mr. Raynor said that he is sure our Engineer will see to that. Mr. Moisa said that the Highw~y~Committse and the Highway Superintendent may very well add t° what you~~have here. Mr. Raynor suggeisted that they get some test wells. The Department of Health will tell you where to put them. Give them a map and they will tell you where they want them. This is a straight-forward approach to this property, Mr Tsontakis asked what they could do about getting a hearing. I thought that ~e were ready but ~t I am not ready yet. I have to g~ to the Board of ~, them a map. Mr.~Ray~or s'~id~ that they will rsquire that test wells be made and will t-e~l you what to do. Take a 'map to the Department ~of Environmental Control. They will tel1 you ~what to put in for sewage disposal. Show the existing right' of way on the map. Mr. Moisa said that if Mr. Tsontakis .appeared at the next meeting posSibly we could set a date for a preliminary hearing. Mr. ~xien said that there is an error in the survey about 4 feet over on my wife's land. This is confirmed by the Title Company and also Van Tuyl. This concerns the northwest corner running south. Southold Town Planning Board -16- November 15, 1973 Mr. Joseph Maier of De Nigris & Maier, A.I.A., came before the Board for site plan review of the Mattituck Branch for Walt Whitman Federal Sa~nqs & Loan Association. Mr~ Moisa read letter received from the Superintendent of Highways as follows: "I have inspected the plans for the Mattituck Branch for Walt Whitman Federal Savings & Loan Association located at Mattituck, New York and recommend the following changes: 1. The curb cut on Bay Avenue, Mattituck (exit) should be 12' and not 18' 2. The terrace from the sidewalk to curb on N.Y. State Route ~25 shall be 2' and not 5'6"." Mr. Raynor stated that there is a problem as they are 6£~from the water. Mr~ Maier said that he had submitted this to the County. I have a sketch of the floor plan and elevation if you care to look at that. We have a branch in East Setauket and one in Melville. Mr. Raynor said that the BUilding Inspector will require ~equire 361 sq. ft. of parking. Mr. Maier said that they have ample parking space. There was a di~scussion on the planting area. .Mr. Maier said that to the northwest we will sod this area, and then plant around the buitding~ Mr. Raynor asked Mr. Maier what he proposed in the way of a sign. Mr. Maier said the front Of th~ building has a portiCo and ~that's where we will put the sign. Mr. Raynor asked what khey are proposing for materials. Mr. Maier said "brick w~th a slate roof". There will be wood columns. Mr. Raynor stated that the Board will,need a list of mater~alS~ If we don't have a list we get in trouble with the Fire Department. You will have to meet State specifications anyway. We will need a side view of it. Mr. Maie~ showed th~'Board an interior design. Mr. Raynor asked wh~re Was the Closest branch similar to this. Mr. Maisr said it was located on Route 25, E. Sstauket; and also there is~ne in Melville very similar to this. Mr. Raynor asked about the total height to the top of the cupola. Mr. Maier sa~id it w~uld be 28 fset, under 30 feet. T~e architecture is E~rly American. Mr. Raynor said t~hat'the Board would need side and rear profiles and a list of materials% We.run into problems particularly with roofing materials so this is why we are asking you to supply us with this information. Mr. Moisa said that the Board will wait to hear from Mr. Maier. ~ary Olsen, Esq. came before the Board with regard to Oregon View at Cutchogue. There was a further discussion of a turn-around. Final maps have not as yet been submitted to the County. Southold Town Planning Board -17- November 15, 1973 Gary Olsen, Esq. came before the Board with regard to Sleepy Hollow subdivision. The following letter from the Superintendent of Highways was read: "The Town Attorney advises the Highway Committee and myself that the proposed roadway end of Sleepy Hollow does not have a 100 ft. turn around and'it would be illegal for the roadr~of West Creek Estates (Glenn Road) to be used. This being a private road." Mr. Olsen said that when he received a copy of this letter he asked Mr. Van Tuyt to prepare a sketch of the proposed turn around to see what you think of it. If I make that change can I go ahead with the final copy? Mr. Raynor said that the elevation is a problem. The turn around is down in the meadow. Mr. Olsen said that he wants to know if his suggestion is alright. Mr. Moisa said that there is nothing else you can do with it. Mr. Coyle said that he should increase the Park and Playground area to make 38,000 sq. ft. Mr~ Raynor suggested that Mr. Olsen hand carry this to Stony B~ook, and to leave one sketch for our file. Gary Olsen, Esq. came before t~e Board with Green~fi~lds.a~tS~ subdivisioni' Mr the appeared before you wSn~ed ~o~tours shown. This maU shows contours. IS there any other reason I.can't for ? you '~rd to ithat Ghat this said iron- mental Control on sewage disposal. Mr. Raynor sai8 ~hat he a disclosure Statemen~ Mr. M~Sa rea~ the lett~ Mr. Charl~ Bar~stb, The ~Su~foik Conservation Dis~ict. (letter in file). Mr test wells wOu~d have to be shown!on the map. Mr. Olseni~said he Would go to ~Suff01k County a~dl find out whether ~est wells. I just want a 'preliminary said that we .try Estates to ..i' Mr. O] there was anything else the Board needed se he could submit it for a public hearing. Mr. Moisa said that i~ we have test-wells on the map an~ a letter from the Superlnt~nden% of Highways at the time of the next meeting, we will be able to set it up for a public hearing. Southold Town Planning Board -18- November 15, 1973 Gary Olsen, Esq. came before the Planning Board in regard to the proposed Fairway Farms Subdivision in Cutchogue. He said that he had received a copy of a letter addressed to Mr. Russell Case from the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation, as follows: "Re~-. Proposed Fairway Farms Subdivision in Cutchogue, Town of Southold, Suffolk County, New York Please be advised that the subdivision of property referenced above will not require a permit pursuant to Environmental Conservation Law, Article 25 o~ Article 15. However,!future alterations to lots nos. 15, 16, 17, 18 and 19 on the proposed subdivision map will have to file for permits under the Tidal Wetlands Act. Sincerely yours, Daniel J. Larkin Local Permit Agent" Mr. Otsen said that there is no trouble when a house goes up 6n each one of these lots. They want to see where the cess~eols are going to go. As far as approving the subdivislon, ~this is all they are going to give until the lots arelsold and the houses built. It reai~y d~esn't affect y~u fellows on the Board. Has the summons been settled in any way or other? I have talked to Justice D~maresti Mr. Wickham said that once he got this letter from the~State, he woUld recommend that the summons be withdrawn. He said he would talk to you before he went away. Mr. Rayner said that when he talked to Mr. Wickham they both ~feit that the Board would be in a Position to go ahead-~witb this when the fill was put back in. Mr. Olsen said that the!indication has been to him that technically the summons doesn,t ~US anything te do with your approving this subdivision. It is go~ to be resolved. Let s get at on for a final hearing, and hew thB park and recreation area will develop is a separate thing. Thc Only thing he did request was some sort of letter s~ating ~tlmy ~tien~s in~end doing with the recreational area. The letter has been prepared and I submit it to you tonight. ~letter in file). Mr. Otsen said that he wou~d like a Commitment that this wil U.ed for a final hearing~ ~r, Raynor s~ated that is 'Still in variance to subdivisi~n regulations. I am not talking about the summons. Dredging was done in the wrong location. Mr. Moisa stated that something has to be done as far as the pond is concerned. Mr. Olsen said that if the Beard wanted assurance that the po~d would be filled in we will give you a bond, but we have to get on for a final hearing. As you know, they have put an awful lot of money Southold Town Planning Board -19- November 15, 1973 into this place. Mr. Wickham said that if you had a letter from the Departmentaof Environmental Conservation it could be put on for a final hearing. Mr, Moisa said that Mr. Wickham also mentioned the filling in of the pond. We have to have something agreed upon that that will be done. Mr~ Olsen said, if you want the pond moved we will move it or eliminate it. My point is that we want to get this scheduled for a final hearing, and then, as far as what will be done with the pond, we will take it up with the Planning Board at a separate conference. We will probably have to get approval from the Town Trustees, the Town Board, and the State. We will do whatever the Town wants us to do. I don't think it should hold up a final hearing. You can always put contingencies on it. Mr. Moisa said that in reference to the signlng of the map, it would be with the approval of the Highway Committee. Let us discuss this a little later. You may call us in the morning. Mr. Arthur Tyrrell and Mr. Arnold Larsen appeared before the Board in reference to a pre-preliminary sketch of Map of Esther Jane Farm at Arshamomaque. Mr. Tyrrell said there are 26 lots. Parcel No. 2 is approximately 5 acres to be given as Park and Playground area. I well know this does not meet the 150 foot requirement for frontage and it does not meet the 40,000 sq. ft. requirement but this is to get your reaction to this. Mr~ Moisa asked if his concept was for a major subdivision. Mr. Tyrrell said that it Was, in sections. Mr~ Moisa asked if he had clustering in mind. Mr. Tyrrell said that at the time he consulted with Mr. Terry, he said that 25 lots would meet the requirements. There are 26 lots of which 5.6 are waterfront and wetlands, which is worth $3'00 a front foot if you could use it. Mr. Tyrrell said that on one of the.maps some port'on of this is designated as wetlands. Mr..Moisa asked for the buildable acreage. Mr. Tyrrell said 23 acres. There are two ,parcels m-rked as such, one is to be given aw~y and the other is buitdable land. We have 28 acres. Mr. Raynor asked what is the minimum proposed for one lot? Mr. Lars~n said about three quarters o~ an acre, ~ome are acres and a half. M~. Tyrrell said that they had allowed for a 50 foot road. Mr~ Moi~a said "you have 26 lot~". Mr. Larsen answered that we are giving 5.6 acres away with it. Mr. Moisa said that it would have t~ have clearance of Suffolk County Environ- mental Control and they h~ve not been too happy about clustering. Mr~ Tyrrell said that he had an alternative plan. This would be in partnership with a United Nations colleague. We are buying the whole .lot and he would take title to part and I would take title to part. These do meet your 150 foot frontage requirements and they are all an acre or more. Mr. Raynor said you still need 5% overage. You would have no way of Southold Town Planning Board -20- November 15, 1973 supplying Park and Playground area. If you were to have this as one parcel you would have to~ supply 5% as Park and Playground area. Mr. Tyrrell said "in other words, you would increase by one-fifth of an acre to cope with this". Mr. Raynor said that that would be o~e way of approaching it. Mr. Tyrrell asked if there would be drainage requirements on this plan. Mr. Raynor answered ~hat that would be up to the Superintendent of Highways. Mr. Mo~sa said they would have to have maps made up and present them with profiles. Mr. R~ynor said that the Superintendent of Highways could look at'it and decide which would be the better way. Mr~ Tyrr.ell said~that this was all farmland. Mr. Larsen said that there ~s. no clay to h~s knowledge. Mr. Tyrrell asked if t/aere were too ma~y problems involved with the first s~ S~ion. Are there snags here that make it impractical? takes about six Months to get clearance from :tare Environmental Control. ~r~ Larsen said that if .s given away, I don't see why ~it makes any difference. M~. ~aYnor s~id t~at they are aski~ for three ~uarter acre~~ t0tsl ~nd~ ~helZoning Ordinance calls for one acre, and you a~e ~$king ~ one quarter with Parcel 2. Mr, Larsen said we ~r~ ~i~in~!wetlands and water front. Mr. Raynor said that h~s ~essiwou~a be that the Superint~n~ent.ofHi~hways would a~k ~Or a s~r road. That would me~n~a~ual!co~st~uction. Mr. ~ars~n ¢~mmented that they have never done it ~efore. Mr. tha~ w~u~d t±oA. if he sa he ~ said that they have alwa}~s.!dQne it. I am sure ~a consideration of the Superintendent of ~. Larsen said that the~'we~S looking for some approval as to the number of lots. Mr. if it was tbs feeling of the Board that it for final approva~%h~t wou~d be a considera- ld take one lot out. Mrl Moisa asked Mr. Tyrrell he could leave with ~he Board. Mr~ Tyrrell .s ~s pre-Preliminary. Mr..Moisa suggested that to Environmental. ~on~rol as they could belongs ~o the people who purchase it, and we are not doing anything wrong in this area. Mr. Tyrrell said that he gathered that the Board foresaw difficulties on the first plan but did not see that sort of problem arising~ on the other plan. Mr. Moisa suggested that Mr. Tyrrell come back after seeing the Superintendent of Highways on drainage. Southold Town Planning Board -21- November 15, 1973 Mr. Joseph Saland came before the Board with regard to Elijah's Lane Estates subdivision. Mr. Howard Young of Young & YoUng was also present. Mr. Satand said "you want a turnaround" and Mr. Coyle answered "for future dedication". Mr. Young said that there had been an objection on elevations on the road profiles. We brought down new elevations and we will leave those with you. How are we going to proceed? Can't you approve at a final hearing subject to modification? Mr. Raynor said that the Board liked to have everything completed before the final hearing. Mr~ Saland stated that he would like to get a Bond on Section I. He said that he had ta~ked to Larry Tuthill. We only have 800 feet of roads ~d one large recharge basin. Mr~ MOisa stated that if we receive the bond estimate by the next meeting, we could set a date for a final hearing. Mr. Saland said that he would take the new profiles to the Superintendent of Highways. Mr. Young objected to the fact that last week he got a letter of disapproval. Mr. Raynor said that the engineer said the roads are below grade. Mr. Young said they were put below grade because that's what Mr. Barnett recommended'. You have a letter in the files about this telling how it should be handled. Mr. Moisa suggested that they do their necessary work and we will get a bond estimate and set a date for a final hearing. When the bond estimate comes in we will be able to set the date. Mr. Young had a further discussion with the Board regarding roads. He.objected to the fact that they had made f~nal maps and had Health Department stamps on them and nowlthey have to go through this whole thing again. He felt that~ there was no reason this could not have been solved four!months ago. Mr~ Raynor said that this is what the Town Engineer found out and this is what he recommended to us. Mr~ Donald A. Stephenson, Main Road, Omient,~New York, came before~ the Board for Site plan approval. Mr; Stephenson t~ld fhe Board that he wants to build an extension that the Board a Sketch of his plan. He said that you walk down to the garage level five or six steps and up to the apartment five or six steps. Here is the existing house - you go down to my workshop and my wife's studio, the ~partment is above it. (Referring to map) This is unuseable space. Southold Town Planning Board -22- , November 15, 1973 Mr. Moisa said that he had talked to Bob Gillispie, the Chairman of the!Appeals Board,and he said that this application needed site plan approval. The Board of Appeals has already given their approval. Mr. Stephenson said the cnnditions Of Board of Appeals approval were that he get site plan approval from the Planning Board, the right to use the road, and that he mark off 80,000 sq. ft. Mr. Raynor said that he now understood, it's for zoning purposes, it's being considered as two homes. On motion of Mr. Raynor, seconded by Mr. Coyle, it was RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board GRANT site plan approval to Donald Stephenson for property located in Orient, New York. Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Moisa, Raynor, Coyle~ Grebe. Mr. Moisa read letter received from ~r. Robert W. Gillispie, Jr., Chairman of the Appeals Board, dated November 15, 1973, as follows: "Re: Appeal No. 1842 Lucile Mosback Public Hearing 10/11/73 In replY to John Wickham's letter of October 13, 1973, we have consulted with the Town Attorney and.we are unable to suggest a variation of the applicant's proposal for two underSized l°ts which would comply with your ~hird paragraph; namely, one undersized lot, or four full ones or oversized lots. Since the applicant owns adequate acreage bordering the proposed~undersized lots, it would be our suggestion that all of the lots be full or oversized, and that over- sized lots be covenanted to prevent further subdivision. We will b~ glad to er any .~ su~ estion which might inv01ve~th~ Board a n is reached. Our decision has t sixty days of the October 11, 1973 Public Hearing. Unless we hear from you the application, as presented originally, will be denied." The Board discussed the proposal and agreed that this should be a minor subdivision of 40,000 sq. ft~ or better. Southold Town Planning Board L23- November 15, 1973 On motion of Mr. Moisa, seconded by Mr. Grebe, it was RESOLVED, after consultation with the Town Attorney, since there is adequate land available, the Southold Town Planning Board sha~ll require that applicant comply with zoning regulations and file for a minor subdivision of four lots comprising 40,000 sq. ft. each, or more. Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Raynor, Coyle, Moisa, Grebe. On motion by Mr. Coyle, seconded by Mr. Raynor, it was RESOLVED that a copy of Mr. Raymond Dean's letter with regard to Preliminary Map Section II of Soundcrest Woods, dated July 11, 1973, be sent to Mr. Robert Schroeder, owner. The letter from the Superintendent of Highways reads as follows: "I have inspected the Preliminary Map Section Two of Soundcrest Woods dated July 11, 1973 and disapprove as there has been no provision for drainage. A Profile was not received with the Preliminary Map." Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Moisa, RaynQr, Coyle, Grebe. On motion by Mr. Raynor, seconded by Mr. Moisa, it was RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board grant final approval to Little Neck Properties, owned by P. J. Ventures, consisting of a parcel of land situated at East Cutchogue, in the Town of Southold, County of Suffolk, and State of New York. Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Moisa, Raynor, Coyle, Grebe. Southold Town Planning Board -24- November 15, 1973 On motion by Mr. Coyle, seconded by Mr. Grebe, it was RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board grant preliminary approval of map of property known as Inlet East Estates, owned by Donald A. Denis, William W. Esseks, and Bennett Stark, consisting of a parcel of land situated at Mattituck, in the Town of Southold, County of Suffolk, and State of New York. Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Moisa, Coyle, Grebe. Abstaining:- Mr. Henry Raynor On motion by Mr. Raynor, seconded by Mr. Grebe, it was RESOLVED that the Southold.Town Planning Board grant final approval to Eas~ Hill, Section I subdivision, owned by John Pontino, consisting of a parcel of land situate, lying, and being at Peconic, in the Town of Southold, County of Suffolk, and State of New York, subject to receipt of letter from the Superintendent of Highways with respect to a recharge basin. Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Moisa, Raynor, Grebe, Coyle. On motion by Mr. Coyle, seconded by Mr. Raynor, it was RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board grant sketch plan approval to Mr. James Kavanagh, Crescent Beach Motel, East Marion, New York, for sketch plan of condominium proposal. Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Coyle, Raynor, Grebe, Moisa. Southold Town Planning Board -25- November 15, 1973 On motion by Mr. Raynor, seconded by Mr. Mcisa, it was RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board agrees with the County recommendations as set forth in the map of Pebble Beach located at East Marion, New York, which was submitted tonight. Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Moisa, Coyle, Raynor, Grebe. On motion by Mr. Coyle, seconded by Mr. Raynor, it was RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board approve minor subdivision of Joseph Wiederman & John Gilowski at Southold, New York, subject to receipt of legal instrument binding assignees including heirs. Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Moisa, Raynor, Coyle, Grebe. On motion by Mr. Raynor, seconded by Mr. Moisa, it was RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board shall set a date for final hearing on map of Fairway Farms sub= division upon receipt of letter from New York State Depart- ment of Environmental Conservation and after there has been some d~finite action with regard to filling in the pond, returning it to its original state. Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Moisa, Raynor, Coyle, Grebe. On motion by Mr. Raynor, seconded by Mr. Coyle, it was RESOLVED that map and profile of Fairway Farms be sent to Lawrence Tuthill, Town Engineer, for preparation of bond estimate. Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Moisa, Raynor, Coyle, Grebe. Southold Town Planning Board -26- November 15, 1973 On motion by Mr. Coyle, seconded by Mr. Grebe, it was RESOLVED that map and profile of Elijah's Lane Estates be sent to Mr. Lawrence Tuthill, Town Engineer, for preparation of bond estimate. Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Moisa, Raynor, Coyle, Grebe. On motion by Mr. Raynor, seconded by Mr. Coyle, it was RESOLVED that preliminary subdivision map of Greenfields at Southold be sent to Mr. Lawrence Tuthill, Town Engineer, for preparation of bond estimate. Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs: Moisa, Raynor, Coyle, Grebe. The Board discussed Orient Point with Richard Cron, Esq. We are expecting to hear from Charles Lind regarding clustering concept. On motion of Mr. Moisa, seconded by Mr. Grebe, it was RESOLVED that the next regular meeting of the Planning Board will be held December 6, 1973, at 7:30 P.M. at the Town Office, Main Road, Southold, New York. On motion of Mr. Moisa, seconded by Mr. Coyle, it was RESOLVED that the minutes of the Planning Board meeting of Octobe~ 24, 1973, be approved. Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Moisa, Raynor, Coyle, Grebe. Southold Town Planning Board -27~ November 15, 1973 Mr. Moisa read letter received from Mr. Howard Terry, Building Inspector, dated November 15, 1973, as follows: "April 13, 1973 we had complaints of drainage problems along the westerly lots of minor subdivision "Rollingwood" and the southerly line of the open farm land north of this minor subdivision where "runoff water" from the farm land had been "channeled" by some bulldozing and hand ditching to run this water to Peconic Bay Blvd., thence to Brushes Creek. This matter was brought to your attention at that time. We do not know who did the work, but the lot owners were ordered to fill in the ditch on their properties to stop water running onto the public highway. It appears that adjoining property owners are about to bring action against one another for causing change in natural runoff pattern. I believe you should look into this matter as the area drainage problem starts with the westerly lots in Laurel Country Estates and goes west and south for many acres - when frozen or not planted in cover crop, this means thousands of gallons of water.to be cared for. I have talked to the Superintendent of Highways Dean about this, and I believe you should plan something for the entire area in the near futUre - before the land comes up for development, or you are brought in an action for damages now claimed." (Mr. Raynor stated that he intended to inspect this area the day after the meeting). Letter received from Long Island Lighting ComPany re. siting of~major steam electric generatling facilities~ They are currently preparing documents involving our proposed nuclear facilities to be located at either Jamesport in the Townships of Riverhead and Southold or at the Shoreham West site in the Town of Brookhaven. (Mr. Raynor has seen their representatives and they have been supplied with the material they requested). Letter received from Mr. Alden Young of Young & Young re. Elijah's Lane. (Letter filed). Southold Town Planning Board -28- November 15, 1973 Copy of Minutes of Joint Meeting Village Planning Board and Village Board of Trustees, October 23, 1973. Copy of letter from New York State Department of Environmental Conservation sent by.Lefferts Paine Edson in connection with the~Pebble Beach.Subdivision, as follows: "Dear Mr. Edson: Re: TW-15274-0053 Petition for Moratorium Permit in Tidal Wetlands Your petition has been forwarded to this office by the Local Tidal Wetlands Permit Administrator. He has determined that your permit will not adversely affect adjacent tidal wetland areas. Therefore, pursuant to Part 660.1(4), NYCRR (Proposed) you are hereby notified that no permit will be necessary." (Signed) Louis M. Concra, Jr. Central Tidal Wetland Permit Administrator Copy of Memorandum sent by Anthony S. Taormina, Regional Supervisor of Fish and Wildlife, to Robert A. Cook: "Enclosed copies of correspondence from John Wickham, Chairman Southold Town Planning Board, relating to the State Tidal Wetlands Act and rights of the Town Trustees as granted by the Andros Patent. As you can tell, Mr. Wickham believes that there now exists a conflict of jurisdiction. I told John that it appeared to be an argument between the Trustees and the Attorney General's office rather than with D.E.C. Consequently, I tr~t that you will be able to forward the enclosed through channels for appropriate action." Recommendations of the Suffolk County Department of Planning re. Bruce A. Norris proposed change of zone frpm "A" to "M". The County disapproved this change of zone. Southold Town Planning Board -29- November 15, 1973 The meeting was adjourned at 11:45 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Marjorie McDermott, Secretary Southold Town Planning Board John Wickham, Chairman