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MEMBERS
GERARD P. GOEHRINGER, CHAIRMAN
CHARLES GRIGONIS, JR.
SERGE DOYEN, JR.
ROBERT ,J. DOUGLASS
JOSEPH H. SAWlCKI
Southoid Town Board of Appeals
MAIN RI'lAD- BTATE ROAD 25 SOUTHE]LD, L.I., N.Y. llcJ'7'l
TELEPHONE (516) 765-1809
May 2, 1 986
Mr. John J. Newman
147 Whitehall Boulevard
Garden City, NY 11530
Re: Appeal No. 3441 Garage Conversion Variance
Dear Mr. Newman:
In accordance with your request of March 3, 1986, please
be advised that the following action was taken by the Board
of Appeals at our Regular Meeting held last night in the above
matter:
RESOLVED, that the Application of JOHN J. NEWMAN under
Appeal No. 3441 for a Variance to convert and increase size
of accessory garage structure for sleeping/livable floor area,
BE AND HEREBY IS WITHDRAWN, as requested.
This resolution was duly adopted by unanimous vote of
all the members.
Yours very truly,
CC:
Building Department
Town Trustees
GERARD P. GOEHRINGER
CHAIRMAN
By Linda Kowalski
92~, HEMP~TEA,O TURNPIKE
FRANKL~ SQUARE, NY 11010
(516) 354-9100 (Nassau)
(516) 654-3610 (Suffolk)
(718) 895-2228 (New York City)
(914) 358-9088 (Westchester)
-- INSURANCE SERVICES --
GROUP INSURANCE
LIFE - HEALTH - DISABILITY
INDIVIDUAL (Personal & Business)
LIFE - AUTO - FIRE - HOMEOWNERS
LIABILITY - THEFT - MARINE
HEALTH - ACCIDENT
John J. Newman, President
March 3, 1986
Mr. Gerard P. Goehringer, Chairman
Southold Town Board of Appeals
Main Road -~State Road 25
Southold, New York 11971
Dear Mr. Goehringer:
I am replying to your letter dated December 11, 1985 concerning my
Appeals # 3441 and 3442. Please be advised that the required survey
will be completed shortly.
In the meantime, I am sending you copies of various permits received
including the New York State DEC permit. This is in reply to Question
2 of your letter.
We have also employed the services of Architect Garrett Strang,
Main Road, Southold in order to prepare more detailed plans and
drawings of the proposed improvements. The Southold Trustees are in
the process of issuing the Wetlands Permit for the repair of the garage,
we will forward that upon receipt.
We are also enclosing a copy of the Army Corp of Engineer approval of
our requests.
The new DEC Approval or letter of Non-Jurisdiction hopefully would be
forwarded sh_ortly. /
JJN/lnm
Enc.
New York State
Department of Environmental Conservation
NOTICE
The Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC) has
issued permit(s) pursuant to the Environmental Conservation
Law for work being conducted on this site. For further informa-
tion regarding the nature and extent of work approved and any
Departmental conditions on it, contact the Regional Permit
Administrator listed below. Please refer to the permit number
shown when contacting the DEC.
Alternate
Regional Permit Administrator
Permit No.
10-84-1328
Expiration Date
95-20-1 (11/82)
January 31st, 1987
NOTE: This notice is not a permit
David DeRidder
92~ HEMI~'STEAD TURNPIKE
FRANKLIN SQUARE, NY 11010
(516) 354-9100 (Nassau)
(516) 654-3610 (Suffolk)
(718) 895-2228 (New York City)
(914) 358-9088 (Westchester)
-- INSURANCE SERVICES --
April 7, 1986 -'
GROUP INSURANCE
LIFE - HEALTH · D~SABILITY
INDIVIDUAL (Personal & Business)
LIFE - AUTO · FIRE - HOMEOWNERS
LIABILITY - THEFT · MARINE
HEALTH - ACCIDENT
John J. Newman, President
Mr. Gerard P. Goehringer
Southold Town Board of Appeals
Main Road - State Road 25
Southold, New York 11971
Dear Mr. Goehringer:
Please be advised that we wish to withdraw our Zoning Appeal for
conversion of accessQry garage structure. This Appeal number is
either 3441 ~your letter of December llth did not specify
which number covers the garage structure.
We have decided to consider the addition of a 2nd floor to the house
for the additional living space that we need. We therefore are going
forward with a building permit for the repair of the garage at its
present location without modification.
This change in our plans requires that we re-study the addition to the
house.
We would therefore appreciate your patience in our submitting an
up to date survey.
Very( ;ruly yours,
John ~
JJN/~nm
PUBLIC HEARING
IN THE MATTER OF
JOHN J. NEWMAN
8:14 P.M.
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN THAT PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE HELD BY THE
TOWN TRUSTEES OF THE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD, AT THE SOUTHOLD TO~fN HALL,
MAIN ROAD, SOUTHOLD, NEW YORK ON THURSDAY, JANUARY 23, 1986 ON
THE FOLLOWING APPLICATION FOR PERMITS UNDER THE PROVISION OF
THE WETLAND ORDINANCE OF THE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD; IN THE MATTER
OF JOHN J. NEWMAN TO DRIVE 12 PILINGS LANDSIDE TO SECURE EXISTING
GARAGE. PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON SAILORS NEEDLE ROAD, MATTITUCK,
'NEW YORK.
TRUSTEE SMITH: That was the official reading of the notice for
Mr. John J. Newman. Does anyone have anything to say pro or
con to this application? Please come up and state your name.
MRS. JEANNE P. MARRINER: I live next to Mr. Newman. I would
like this opportunity to reiterate some of our concerns we
expressed in our letter to you. In the letter we called attention
to not only our concerns regarding the proposed piling project,
but we also asked that you review the application in relation
to the other recently completed construction and alteration on
the Newman property. Our permanent residence abuts the Newman
property and we have been affected by bulkhead construction
during 1984 and 1985 and we fear future cumulative affects and
we are gravely concerned about the proposal to construct second
story living quarters on top of the existing garage by placing
the garage on twelve pilings. Our reasons for our concerns are
as follows: The garage is right at the waters edge and we fear
the project will have a potentially large impact on groundwater
quality from salt water intrusion. As our well is about 90'
from the Newman garage. The project we know, will cause objectionable
ground vibration because we have experienced this when the bulkheading
was done during the 1984 and 1985 construction. The composition of
the land that our houses are on, sand and topsoil placed on bog is
very fragile. The land is surrounded on three sides by James Creek.
We fear undermineing of the lateral support could lead to the cracking
of our concrete foundations. The project could have an impact on
both the public health and safety of ourselves and other Salt Lake
Village residents and on James Creek due to excessive water pumping
and additional sewage resulting from proposed facilities added to
an already overloaded parcel of property of less than one acre.
We are concerned with the overload even without the new proposal
because of the proximity of the Newman cesspool to the creek and
to his and our wells. The cesspool was placed closer to our wells
and the swimming pool took the place of the original cesspool.
PUBLIC HEARING
IN THE MATTER OF
JOHN J, NEWMAN
JANUARY 23~ 1986
8:14 P.M.
PRESENT WERE:
Trustee President Henry P, Smith
Trustee John Bredemeyer
Trustee Ellen Larsen
Trustee Phillip Goubeaud
Clerk Ilene Pfifferling
Bay Constable Kent McCarthy
Frank Kujawski
Jeanne P. Marriner
Martin Garrell, CAC
Public Hearing In the Matter of John J. Newman Page 2.
The system already services the following: The main house facilities
which is all on one acre, the Lighthouse, guest bathroom and kitchen
facilities, and the Lighthouse is surrounded by water. The Cabana/
guesthouse facilities situated on the waters edge next to the pool.
The washing machine, shower and other facilities located in the
existing garage which is also situated on the waters edge. As we
mentioned in our letter, we are extremely concerned about short water
supply and saltwater intrusion resulting from excessive water pumping
of the newly installed inground sprinkler system of both Mr. Newman
and his abutter to the North, Mr. Fahey. We ask that you consider
how much water and waste disposal this property could handle without
contaminating our wells and the creek. We ask that you please
consider the total situation when you are deliberating on application
number 335. While we recognize that Mr. Newman's garage needs repair
due to termite damage, further compounded by the recent construction
which made it slip off of its' foundation, we do not understand
the request for twelve pilings to repair the garage. The pilings
are only a means for Mr. Newman to accommodate a second story
to add additional living space. Tonight I am speaking primarily
to application no. 335, as it is my understanding that Mr. Ne%~man
withdrew his request for bulkheading in application no. 330. and
will replace the spartina he removed last Fall from his property
directly abutting ours on James Creek. If there is any change to
application 330, we request the opportunity to comment because
the safety of our wetlands and property could be affected. Because
we are deeply concerned about what could happen to our home if the
project described in No. 335 is permitted we ask you to please look
at the entire picture before making your decision. We realize that
with current mandates, may not include responsibility for some of
our concerns, we hope you will never the less recognize that there
could be a potentially serious problem if further expansion is
permitted on this{sensitive creek front. Thank you for letting
me comment.
TRUSTEE SMITH: Does anyone else have anything to say?
~RTIN GARRELL: Question for you Henry? What is the sequence
of determination on that? Who gives approval on the second story
building? Is it the ZBA? Or is it Planning?
TRUSTEE SMITH: That would be the Zoning Board.
~RTIN GARRELL: That was our hopes that somehow %.;e %~ould get a
decision.on that before we would have to decide on the pilings.
TRUSTEE SMITII: It was my understanding that our part of this matter
was to put the pilings in to stop the garage from sinking or slipping
into the creek. As far as putting a second story on, where he is
Public Hearing In the Matter of John J. Newman Page 3.
within 75' of High water. H~ would have to come back to us for
an application to do that. As far as the cesspools and ground-
water and things like that, it is out of our jurisdiction.
MARTIN GARRELL: The thing of it is, sooner or later we are going
to get clobbered with one of thise things. If we do not look at
the whole picture.
TRUSTEE SMITH: I agree, but right now the mans.problem is that
the garage is at a tilt.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: I reviewed a letter that was sent to us by
the Marriners. The swimming pool and that particular item, I
believe started prior to the April 1st date of the Wetland
Ordinance, because we were out on this last fall. Apparently
that change went beyond our jurisdiction. The discussion on
the inground sprindler system has got to make you wonder an
awful lot. That is such a fragile area to be drawing on water
resources and there has been probably no comment from any other
agency at all on that installation. It is one that deserves discussioK
here as a principal. In ground sprinkler systems can draw a
tremendous amount of water to put it on such a fragile location
as that, it deserves mention.
TRUSTEE SMITH: Now well drillers are required by law before
they put a well in, as such, they have to get a permit from
New York State and the use of the well has to be so stated. I
think they should be looking more closely where these wells will
be going and what use it is going to be used for. If you get
dry years, you get salt water intrusion. A few years ago, the
people on Nassau Point has salt water intrusion. They had to
move their wells back close to the road. It went back after the
rains came back, b~t it was due to lawn irrigation.
FRANK KUJAWSKI: I have agreed to represent Mr. Newman. I have
a letter I will give to the Clerk shortly. The reason I have
agreed to represent him is, in the past couple of years in dealing
with him, I think the way he has conducted construction on that
property has been in a sensitive manner. A couple of compromises
he has made with this Board and the withdrawal of applications
in the past. Before I agreed to represent him, I have also talked
to several people in the construction business. It is their
opinion that this was rot, which was the basic part of the problem
here. I ackh6wledge there is concern here, on saltwater intrusion,
but I am looking back at my own personal experience in this area.
The greatest danger occured during the excavation or removal of
hydrostatic pressure. I would of thought that for instance,
during the pool construction period or any of the bulkheading,
where it would be going on, that would have been the time to see any
evidence. In the driving of pilings, the pressure is maintained
even though the interface bet%~een fresh and salt may be provoked
Public Hearing In the Matter of John J. Newman Page 4.
or actually interspersed, the pressures still remain. You are
not removing earth. I personally can't see any other way to save
the garage other than the pilings. As far as the other couple of
things, I did: 1. To note, and I think Mrs. Marriner correctly
noted, discharges of waste prior in this garage as it is presently
constructed right now. There has been an improvement already,
because on buying this property that discharge of waste was a
direct discharge into the creek, i think we all know what that
means, since then this has been hooked up to the cesspool system.
There is a gain right there. 2. The other point I would like to
mention is that Mr. Newman has a very large family. He is not
going to rent this out or increase the population of this piece
of property. The personal wastes that are generated, and the
amount of water used by the population is not going to be
increased. In other words, the amount of water pumped there and
the waste generated right now would be the same whether or not
the Zoning Board of Appeals choose to allow him to make living
quarters in the garage. Is this Board in receipt of a letter
from Mr. Ne%~mans other adjacent neighbor? If not, I have a
copy of a letter from Mr. Fahey which I would like to read.
"Dear Jack, After reviewing the information that you sent me
concerning the raising of the garage and the adding of the
two bedrooms plus a bath, as well as your proposed extension
to the back of the main house, please be advised that I have
no objection to these improvements. You should feel free to use
this letter in connection with your appeal to the Town. Sincerely,
Philip Fahey, Dated January 13, 1986". I think that should be
part of the record that as the other adjacent neighbor here, and
that he is more than sensitive to any concerns this Board has.
I will convey them to Mr. Newman, thank you.
TRUSTEE SMITH: Do~s anyone have any other comments on t~is
application: Do any of the Trustees have any other comments?
(No comments) Then I will close this hearing in the matter of
John J. Ne%~man.
Hearing Closed at 8:26 P,.M.
Transcribed by C~ler~ Ilene Pfif~'~rling
3anuary 13, 1986
Mr. 3ohn 3. Newman
Sailors Needle Roasd
Hattituck, New York
11952
Dear 3ack,
After reviewLng the information that you sent me
concernzng the raising of the garage and the
addzng of the two bedrooms plus a bath, as well as
your proposed extension to the back of the main
house, please be advised that I have no objection
to these improvements.
You should feel free to use this letter in connec-
tion with your appel to the town.
Sincerely,
-i- '- ~k -. i
Mr. Henry P. Smith, President
Board of Trustees, Town of Southold
Town Hall
Southold, New York 11971
Sailor's Needle Road
Salt Lake Village
Mattituck, N.Y. 11952
January 8, 1986
Subject: Wetlands Application 9335 scheduled for 1/23/86 hearir
Wetlands permit issued for Application 9237, and othe~
recent construction on waterfront property of John J.
Newman, Sailor's Needle Road and James Creek, Salt La~
Village, Mattituck, NY
Dear Sir:
As abutters to subject property and the family most affected,
we should like to offer for your consideration our concerns regarding
construction proposals outlined in application #335.
We should also like to comment on application ~237, and to
bring to your attention other recent waterfront construction on the
subject property because it is important that #335 be considered in
relationship to the total alterations that have occurred since 1984
when Mr. Newman purchased the property.
For orientation purposes, we enclose an updated survey map with
pertinent notations. We should like to note also that the land of
both Mr. Newman and our own abutting property is composed of sand and
topsoil placed on top of bog in the 1930's prior to construction of
homes. The property is surrounded on 3 sides by creek and wetlands
and is very fragile. The Newman property has been partially under
water during times of flooding~ i.e., 1976 Hurricane Belle and 1983
Storm Nelsons
The following addresses our concerns
RE: WETLANDS APPLICATION ~335
We are concerned that:
1. The project (construction of a 2nd story living quarters on top
of 4 car garage to be placed on 12 pilings and situated on creek
edge) could have a potentially large impact on groundwater quali
Sailor's Need~~ - 2 -
2. The project will cause objectionable ground vibration and shaking
of abutting homes and could lead to cracked foundations.
3. The project could have an impact on both the public health and
safety of ourselves and other Salt Lake Village residents due to
excessive water pumping and additional sewage resulting from
proposed facilities added to an already overloaded parcel of
property of less than one acre. The current cesspools service
the main house facilities, lighthouse bathroom and kitchen,
cabana/guest house facilities, plus washing machine and other
shower, etc. facilities in existing garage.
How much waste disposal and water pumpage can this property handle
without contaminating drinking water of nearby wells and polluting
creek waters?
RE: PERMIT FOR APPLICATION #237 AND OTHER 1984-85 CONSTRUCTION
We were not given the opportunity to comment previously and feel it
is important for you to know that, during the past year, the following
construction occurred on the J.J. Newman property:
Under ~237 - 1. Bulkheading and new bridge to guest quarters in
lighthouse and removal of original land connection.
2. Docks, bulkheading, pilings, rip-rap - extensive.
Under ??
3. In-ground swimming pool
4. Cabana/guesthouse on creek edge adjacent to pool
5. Extensive decking and fencing
6. Installation of in-ground sprinkler system
(Abutter to north - P. Fahey - also installed same)
7. Bulldozing of lawn areas and construction of berms;
removal of trees, etc.
8. Installation of new cesspools and tanks and well.
Ail of the above resulted in:
1. Periodic violent vibrations
2. Run-off into James Creek
Future results could occur including:
1.
and shaking of our house.
Salt water intrusion from over pumping of two new sprinkler
systems plus swimming pool and added showers and sanitary facili
Pollution of creek and groundwater from overload of cesspools.
Sailor's Needle - 3 -
At this point, we question the wisdom of the Town of Southold in
permitting both Mr. Newman and Mr. Fahey to install sprinkler systems
(known to be hazardous to drinking water a very precious commodity
to shoreside homes) on such fragile land and water table and within
20 feet of wells of Fahey, Newman and Marriner. We also do not
understand how and why cesspools have been permitted to be installed
within 100 feet of wells.
We conclude our concerns with the following questions regarding
the project in Application ~335:
1. How can the 12 pilings be installed without violently shaking
and possibly cracking the abutting poured concrete foundation of
our permanent home?
2. How will the sinking of these pilings not have the same effect
as dredging too close to our fresh water table?
3. What guarantee do we have that salt water will not intrude into
our drinking water well which is only 90 feet from ~ewnlan garage2
4. While we recognize that Mr. Newman's garage needs repair due to
termite damage further compounded by the recent heavy constructior
why can't the garage be repaired by using treated lumber and
reseating on a minimal one-story structure foundation?
Please note that the pilings are only necessary for the proposed
2nd story to add more living space on an already h~avily built
upon piece oflproperty,
Thank you for permitting us to corament. Please consider all of
our concerns in making your decision.
Very truly yours,
Philip/R. Marriner
Jeanne P. Marriner
EnC.
BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 728
Southold, New York 11971
February 11, 1986
TELEPHONE
(516) 765-1892
Mr. Frank Kujawski
P. O. Box 727
Mattituck, New York
11952
Re: John J. Newman
Wetland Application No. 335
Dear Mr. Kujawski:
Pursuant to your request please find attached copy of
the testimony taken during the Public Hearing on the above-
referenced. Also attached is the correspondence from
Mr. Fahey.
If you have any questions, or need additional information,
please do not hesitate calling this office at the telephone
number above. I w~ll advise you of the action taken by'~he
Board regarding this application after the meeting on
February 27, 1986.
Very truly yours,
Henry P. Smith, President
Board of Town Trustees
Ilene Pfifferling
Clerk to Trustees
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BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES
TOWN OF $OUTHOLD
Town Hall, $3095 Main Road
P.O. Box 728
Southold, New York 11971
TELEPHONE
(516) 765-1692
February 11, 1986
Mr. John J. Newman
147 Whitehall Blvd.
Garden City, New York
11952
Re: Wetland Application No. 335
Sailors Needle Road, Mattituck
Dear Mr. Newman:
Please be advised that the following action was taken
by the Board of Trustees at a regular meeting held on
January 23, 1986:
RESOLVED that the Application of John J. Newman be and
hereby is TABLED for one month.
Please be a~dVised that the Trustees would like to see
an alternative way of supporting the garage.
Very truly yours,
Henry p. Smith, President
Board of Town Trustees
Ilene Pfifferl~n~ ~ ~
Clerk to Trustees
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cc: Trustees
Frank Kujawski
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BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 728
Southold, New York 11971
S.E.Q.R.A.
NEGATIVE DECLARATION
NOTICE OF NO SIGNIFICANT EFFECT ON THE ENVIRONMENT
TELEPHONE
(516) 765-1892
December 26, 1985
APPLICATION NO: 335
NAM~E: John J. Ne'.,~an
This notice is issued pursuant to the provisions of Article 8
of the Environmental Conservation Law State Environmental Quality
Review and 6NYCRR Part 617, Section 617.10 and Chapter 44 of the
Code of the Town of Southold, notice is hereby given that the
Southold Twon Trustees, as lead agency for the action described
below has determined that the project will not have a significant
effect to the environment.
TYPE OF ACTION: Unlisted
DESCRIPTION OF ACTION: To place pilings, to be driven landside,
not in the creek or on wetland. Existing garage is sinking and
must be placed on pilings. Addition of second floor.
LOCATION OF PROJECT: Sailors Needle Road, Mattituck, New York;
Town of Southold, County of Suffolk and Suffolk County Tax Map
No. 1000 Section 144 Block 5 Lot 29.1.
REASONS SUPPORTING THIS DETERMINATION:
1. An environmental assessment in the short form has been
submitted which indicated that there would be no adverse
effect to the environment should the project be implemented
as planned.
2. The Conservation Advisory Council has recommended approval
and indicated that there would be no adverse effect to the
environment should the project be implemented as planned.
BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 728
Southold, New York 11971
TELEPHONE
(516) 765-1892
November 25, 1985
Mr. Charles T. Hamilton
Alternate Regional Permit Administrator
N.Y.S. Dept. of Environmental Conservation
Building 40, SUNY - Room 219
Stony Brook, New York 11794
Dear Mr. Hamilton:
Transmitted herewith is wetland application no. 335
submitted by Mr. John J. Newman to place spiles under an
existing garage, copy of application is attached for your
review.
We would like to coordinate with you in our role as
lead agency regarding this application. May we have your
comments on same by December 16, 1985.
very truly yours,
Henry P. Smith, President
Board of Town Trustees
Ilene Pfifferli~g ~/'
Secretary to Board
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Southold Town Building Dept.
Aram Terchunian, N/Y.S. Coastal Management Program
Board of Appeals~/
BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES
TOWN OF SOIYI'HOLD
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 728
Southold, New York 11971
TELEPHONE
(,516) 765-1892
APPLICATION IS HEREBY MADE TO THE TOWN TRUSTEES OF THE TOWN OF
APPL,CAT,ON ____DATE oF APPL'CAT'O"
IDENTITY OF APPLICANT JOHN J. NE[~
(516) 354-910C
PHONE NO
ADDRESS OF APPLICANT
SAILORS NEEDLE ROAD
MATTITUCK, NEW YORK 11952
County
TAX MAP NO. 1000 Section 144 BLK 5 Lot 29.1 x 30
AGENT NONE PHONE NO.
APPLICANT
LOCATION OF PROPERTY FOR IHICH PERMIT WANTED
MATTITICK, NEW YORK 11952
SAILORS NEEDLE ROAD
147 WHITEHALL BLVD. GARDEN CITY, NEW YORK 11530
CREEK, BAY OR HARBOR FRONTING
SIZE OF PROPOSED WORK
LENGTH 307
PROPERTY
12 PILING
JAMES CREEK
WIDTH
HEIGHT ABOVE HIGH WATER
DEPTH BELOW LOW WATER
YARDS TO BE EXCAVATED NONE
YARDS TO BE FRILLED NONE
WIDTH OF CANAL, CREEK OR BAY FRONTING PROPERTY
DEPTH AT LOW TIDE 21 to 47
100'
AVERAGE RISE IN TIDE 2' tO 4!
DISTANCE TO THE NEAREST CHANNEL 150 FT.
DISTANCE PROJECT EXTENDS BEYOND SIMILAR PROJECTS
Not applic~l.e
IS THIS FOR PRIVATE OR BUSINESS USE? .... PRIVATE
AREA ZONING
MANNER IN WHICH MATERIAL WILL BE REMOVED OR DEPOSITED
NONE
INTENDED USE OF PROPERTY PRIVATE RESIDENCE
DESCRIBE ANY KNOWN PRIOR OPERATIONS CONDUCTED ON THE PREMISE
EXTENSIVE WORK JUST COMPLETED DOCK, BULKHEAD, DREDGE
AND WHETHER ANY PRIOR LICENSE OR PERMITS HAVE BEEN ISSUED TO ERRECT
STRUCTURES OR TO DREDGE OR DEPOSlT FILL ON SAID PREMISES AND WHETHER
ANY PERMITS OR LICENSES WERE EVER SUSPENDED OR REVOKED BY A GOVERNMENTAL
PERMITS WERE ISSUED - NONE SUSPENDED
DESCRIBE FULLY THE REHABILITATION AND PROPOSED CONDITION OF THE
PREMISES AFTER THE WORK IS COMPLETED INCLUDE AN ADDITIONAL SURVEY OF
THE PROJECT SITE IF NECESSARY
PILING TO BE DRIVEN LANDSIDE, NOT IN CREEK OR ON WETLAND. EXISTING GARAGE IS SINKING
AND MUST BE PLACED ON PILINGS. SECOND FLOOR TO BE ADDED. __G_A~__G_E_T0_~A~_P_R_E~EN_T_
LOCATION
'WRITTEN CONSENT OF THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY, IF NOT THE SAME AS THE
APPL I CANT.
ARE THERE ANY COVENANTS OR RESTRICTIONS IN YOUR DEED THAT WOULD
PROHIBIT THIS PROJECT? NONE
BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
SHORT ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FORM
Project Information (To be completed by Applicant or Pro~ect sponsor)
1. ^ppiicantJspon~ I 2. Project Name
JOHN J. NEWMAN
3, Project location: .
Municipality MATTITUCK Co..tv SUFFOLK
[] New [] Expansi~. [] Modiflcation/alteration
S. Describe proiect.briefly: DRIVE PILINGS TO SHOVE UP EXISTING GARAGE. SECOND FLOOR TO BE ADDED.
GARAGE TO REMAIN AT PRESENT LOCATION.
SEE SURVEY 2
[] Yes [] No II No, desc,ibe brie/Iv
~] .esidential [] Indus,,ial [] Commercial
[] Agriculture [] Parkland/open space [] Othe'
[] Yes [] No If yes. list &gency(s) and permit~approvals Dept. of Environmental Conservation
U.S. Army Corps of Engineers
[] Yes [] NO Not applicable
PART I1 Environmental Assessment (To be completed by Agency)
PART III Determination of Significance (To be completed by Agency)
INSTRUCTIONS: For each adverse effect identified above, determine whether it is substantial, large, important or otherwise
significant. Each effect should be assessed in connection with its (a) setting (i.e, urban or rural); (b) probability of occurring;
(c) duration; (d) irreversibility; (e) geographic scope; and (f) magnitude. If necessary, add attachments or reference supporting
materials. Ensure that explanations contain sufficient detail to show that all relevant adverse impacts have been identified
and adequately addressed.
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COUNTY OF SUFFOLK
STATE OF NEW YORK
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BEING DULY SWORN DEPOSES
SWORN TO BEFORE ME THIS
APPROVED "IETLANDB" PERMIT (CHAPT£R 97)
APPROVED "BOAT,DOCKS, WHARVES" P~RMIT (CHAPTER 3Z)
EXAMINING BODY
SIGNATURE OF CHAIRMAN
COMPUTATION OF FEES
Approved 2/27/85
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PUBLIC HEARING
IN THE MATTER OF
JOHN J, NEWMAN
JANUARY 23, 1986
8:14 P,M,
PRESENT WERE:
Trustee President Henry P. Smith
Trustee John Bredemeyer
Trustee Ellen Larsen
Trustee Phillip Goubeaud
Clerk Ilene Pfifferling
Bay Constable Kent McCarthy
Frank Kujawski
Jeanne P. Marriner
Martin Garrell, CAC
PUBLIC HEARING
IN THE MATTER OF
JOHN J. NEWMAN
8:14 P.M.
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN THAT PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE HELD BY THE
TOWN TRUSTEES OF THE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD, AT THE SOUTHOLD TO~fN HALL,
MAIN ROAD, SOUTHOLD, NEW YORK ON THURSDAY, JANUARY 23, 1986 ON
THE FOLLOWING APPLICATION FOR PERMITS UNDER THE PROVISION OF
THE WETLAND ORDINANCE OF THE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD; IN THE MATTER
OF JOHN J. NEWMAN TO DRIVE 12 PILINGS LANDSIDE TO SECURE EXISTING
GARAGE. PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON SAILORS NEEDLE ROAD, MATTITUCK,
NEW YORK.
TRUSTEE SMITH: That was the official reading of the notice for
Mr. John J. Newman. Does anyone have anything to say pro or
con to this application? Please come up and state your name.
MRS. JEANNE P. MARRINER: I live next to Mr. Newman. I would
like this opportunity to reiterate some of our concerns we
expressed in our letter to you. In the letter we called attention
to not only our concerns regarding the proposed piling project,
but we also asked that you review the application in relation
to the other recently completed construction and alteration on
the NeWman property. Our permanent residence abuts the Newman
property and we have been affected by bulkhead construction
during 1984 and 1985 and we fear future cumulative affects and
we are gravely concerned about the proposal to construct second
story living quarters on top of the existing garage by placing
the garage on twelve pilings. Our reasons for our concerns are
as follows: The garage is right at the waters edge and we fear
the project will have a potentially large impact on groundwater
quality from salt water intrusion. As our well is about 90'
from the Newman garage. The project we know, will cause objectionable
ground vibration because we have experienced this when the bulkheading
was done during the 1984 and 1985 construction. The composition of
the land that our houses are on, sand and topsoil placed on bog is
very fragile. The land is surrounded on three sides by James Creek.
We fear undermineing of the lateral support could lead to the cracking
of our concrete foundations. The project could have an impact on
both the public health and safety of ourselves and other Salt Lake
Village residents and on James Creek due to excessive water pumping
and additional sewage resulting from proposed facilities added to
an already overloaded parcel of property of less than one acre.
We are concerned with the overload even without the new proposal
because of the proximity of the Newman cesspool to the creek and
to his and our wells. The cesspool was placed closer to our wells
and the swimming pool took the place of the original cesspool.
Public Hearing In the Matter of John J. Newman Page 2.
The system already services the following: The main house facilities
which is all on one acre, the Lighthouse, guest bathroom and kitchen
facilities, and the Lighthouse is surrounded by water. The Cabana/
guesthouse facilities situated on the waters edge next to the pool.
The washing machine, shower and other facilities located in the
existing garage which is also situated on the waters edge. As we
mentioned in our letter, we are extremely concerned about short water
supply and saltwater intrusion resulting from excessive water pumping
of the newly installed inground sprinkler system of both Mr. New~an
and his abutter to the North, Mr. Fahey. We ask that you consider
how much water and waste disposal this property could handle without
contaminating our wells and the creek. We ask that you please
consider the total situation when you are deliberating on application
number 335. While we recognize that Mr. Newman's garage needs repair
due to termite damage, further compounded by the recent construction
which made it slip off of its' foundation, we do not understand
the request for twelve pilings to repair the garage. The pilings
are only a means for Mr. Newman to accommodate a second story
to add additional living space. Tonight I am speaking primarily
to application no. 335, as it is my understanding that Mr. Ne%~man
withdrew his request for bulkheading in application no. 330. and
will replace the spartina he removed last Fall from his property
directly abutting ours on James Creek. If there is any change to
application 330, we request the opportunity to comment because
the safety of our wetlands and property could be affected. Because
we are deeply concerned about what could happen, to our home if the
project described in No. 335 is permitted we ask you to please look
at the entire picture before making your decision. We realize that
with current mandates, may not include responsibility for some of
our concerns, we hope you will never the less recognize that there
could be a potentially serious problem if further expansion is
permitted on thislsensitive creek front. Thank you for letting
me comment.
TRUSTEE SMITH: Does anyone else have anything to say?
~RTIN GARRELL: Question for you Henry? What is the sequence
of determination on that? Who gives approval on the second story
building? Is it the ZBA? Or is it Planning?
TRUSTEE SMITH: That would be the Zoning Board.
~ARTIN GARRELL: That was our hopes that somehow we would get a
decision on that before we would have to decide on the pilings.
TRUSTEE SMITH:
was to put the
into the creek.
It was my understanding that our part of this matter
pilings in to stop the garage from sinking or slipping
As far as putting a second story on, where he is
Public Hearing In the Matter of John J. Newman Page 3.
within 75' of High water. H~ would have to come back to us for
an application to do that. As far as the cesspools and ground-
water and things like that, it is out of our jurisdiction.
MARTIN GARRELL: The thing of it is, sooner or later we are going
to get clobbered with one of thise things. If we do not look at
the whole picture.
TRUSTEE SMITH: I agree, but right now the mans.problem is that
the garage is at a tilt.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: I reviewed a letter that was sent to us by
the Marriners. The swimming pool and that particular item, I
believe started prior to the April 1st date of the Wetland
Ordinance, because we were out on this last fall. Apparently
that change went beyond our jurisdiction. The discussion on
the inground sprindler system has got to make you wonder an
awful lot. That is such a fragile area to be drawing on water
resources and there has been probably no comment from any other
agency at all on that installation. It is one that deserves discussion
here as a principal. In ground sprinkler systems can draw a
tremendous amount of water to put it on such a fragile location
as that, it deserves mention.
TRUSTEE SMITH: Now well drillers are required by law before
they put a well in, as such, they have to get a permit from
New York State and the use of the well has to be so stated. I
think they should be looking more closely where these wells will
be going and what use it is going to be used for. If you get
dry years, you get salt water intrusion. A few years ago, the
people on Nassau Point has salt water intrusion. They had to
move their wells back close to the road. It went back after the
rains came back, b~t it was due to lawn irrigation.
FRANK KUJAWSKI: I have agreed to represent Mr. Newman. I have
a letter I will give to the Clerk shortly. The reason I have
agreed to represent him is, in the past couple of years in dealing
with him, I think the way he has conducted construction on that
property has been in a sensitive manner. A couple of compromises
he has made with this Board and the withdrawal of applications
in the past. Before I agreed to represent him, I have also talked
to several people in the construction business. It is their
opinion that this was rot, which was the basic part of the problem
here. I ack~6wledge there is concern here, on saltwater intrusion,
but I am looking back at my own personal experience in this area.
The greatest danger occured during the excavation or removal of
hydrostatic pressure. I would of thought that for instance,
during the pool construction period or any of the bulkheading,
where it would be going on, that would have been the time to see any
evidence. In the driving of pilings, the pressure is maintained
even though the interface between fresh and salt may be provoked
Public Hearing In the Matter of John J. Newman Page 4.
or actually interspersed, the pressures still remain. You are
not removing earth. I personally can't see any other way to save
the garage other than the pilings. As far as the other couple of
things, I did: 1. To note, and I think Mrs. Marriner correctly
noted, discharges of waste prior in this garage as it is presently
constructed right now. There has been an improvement already,
because on buying this property that discharge of waste was a
direct discharge into the creek. I think we all know what that
means, since then this has been hooked up to the cesspool system.
There is a gain right there. 2. The other point I w~uld like to
mention is that Mr. Newman has a very large family. He is not
going to rent this out or increase the population of this piece
of property. The personal wastes that are generated, and the
amount of water used by the population is not going to be
increased. In other words, the amount of water pumped there and
the waste generated right now would be the same whether or not
the Zoning Soard of Appeals choose to allow him to make living
quarters in the garage. Is this Board in receipt of a letter
from Mr. Ne%~mans other adjacent neighbor? If not, I have a
copy of a letter from Mr. Fahey which I would like to read.
"Dear Jack, After reviewing the information that you sent me
concerning the raising of the garage and the adding of the
two bedrooms plus a bath, as well as your proposed extension
to the back of the main house, please be advised that I have
no objection to these improvements. You should feel free to use
this letter in connection with your appeal to the Town. Sincerely,
Philip Fahey, Dated January 13, 1986". I think that should be
part of the record that as the other adjacent neighbor here, and
that he is more than sensitive to any concerns this Board has.
I will convey them to Mr. Newman, thank you.
TRUSTEE SMITH: Do~s anyone have any other comments on this
application: Do any of the Trustees have any other comments?
(No comments) Then I will close this hearing in the matter of
John J. Newman.
Hearing Closed at 8:26 P~.M.
Transcribed y ClerR Ilene Pfiff~rling
A,, KINNON SECUBT,B INC.
3anuary 13, 1986
Mr. 3ohn 3. Newman
Sailors Needle Roasd
Mattituck, New York 11952
Dear Jack,
After reviewing the infiormatlon that you sent me
concerning the raLszng of the garage and the
adding of the two bedrooms plus a bath, as well as
your proposed extenszon to the back of the main
house, please be advtsed that I have no objection
to these improvements.
You shoutd feet free to use this letter tn connec-
tion with your appel to the town.
Sincerely,
Mr. Henry P. Smith, President
Board of Trustees, Town of Southold
Town Hall
Southold, New York 11971
Sailor's Needle Road
Salt Lake Village
Mattituck, N.Y. 11952
January 8, 1986
Subject: Wetlands Application #335 scheduled for 1/23/86 heari~
Wetlands permit issued for Application 9237, and othe2
recent construction on waterfront property of John J.
Newman, Sailor's Needle Road and James Creek, Salt La3
Village, Mattituck, NY
Dear Sir:
As abutters to subject property and the family most affected,
we should like to offer for your consideration our concerns regarding
construction proposals outlined in application #335.
We should also like to comment on application ~237, and to
bring to your attention other recent waterfront construction on the
subject property because it is important that #335 be considered in
relationship to the total alterations that have occurred since 1984
when Mr. Newman purchased the property.
For orientation purposes, we enclose an updated survey map with
pertinent notations. We should like to note also that the land of
both Mr. Newman and our own abutting property is composed of sand and
topsoil placed on top of bog in the 1930's prior to construction of
homes. The property is surrounded on 3 sides by creek and wetlands
and is very fragile. The Newman property has been partially under
water during times of flooding~ i.e., 1976 Hurricane Belle and 1983
Storm Nelson.
The following addresses our concerns :
RE: WETLANDS APPLICATION #335
We are concerned that:
1. The project (construction of a 2nd story living quarters on top
of 4 car garage to be placed on 12 pilings and situated on creek
edge) could have a potentially large impact on groundwater quali
Sailor's Nee - 2 - k_
2. The project will cause objectionable ground vibration and shaking
of abutting homes and could lead to cracked foundations.
3. The project could have an impact on both the public health and
· safety of ourselves and other Salt Lake Village residents due to
excessive water pumping and additional sewage resulting from
proposed facilities added to an already overloaded parcel of
property of less than one acre. The current cesspools service
the main house facilities, lighthouse bathroom and kitchen,
cabana/guest house facilities, plus washing machine and other
shower, etc. facilities in existing garage.
How much waste disposal and water pumpage can this property handle
without contaminating drinking water of nearby wells and polluting
creek waters?
RE: PERMIT FOR APPLICATION #237 AND OTHER 1984-85 CONSTRUCTION
We were not given the opportunity to comment previously and feel it
is important for you to know that, during the past year, the following
construction occurred on the J.J. Newman property:
Under %237 - 1. Bulkheading and new bridge to guest quarters in
lighthouse and removal of original land connection.
2. Docks, bulkheading, pilings, rip-rap - extensive.
Under ??
3. In-ground swinuning pool
4. Cabana/guesthouse on creek edge adjacent to pool
5. Extensive decking and fencing
6. Installation of in-ground sprinkler system
(Abutter to north - P. Fahey - also installed same)
7. Bulldozing of lawn areas and construction of berms;
removal of trees, etc.
8. Installation of new cesspools and tanks and well.
Ail of the above resulted in:
1. Periodic violent vibrations and shaking of our house.
2. Run-off into James Creek
Future results could occur including:
1. Salt water intrusion from over pumping of two new sprinkler
systems plus swimming pool and added showers and sanitary facili
2. Pollution of creek and groundwater from overload of cesspools.
Sailor's Needle
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At this point, we question the wisdom of the Town of Southold in
permitting both Mr. Newman an~ Mr. Fahey to install sprinkler systems
(known to be hazardous to drinking water - a very precious commodity
to shoreside homes) on such fragile land and water table and within
20 feet of wells of Fahey, Newman and Marriner. We also do not
understand how and why cesspools have been permitted to be installed
within 100 feet of wells.
We conclude our concerns with the following questions regarding
the project in Application ~335:
1. How can the 12 pilings be installed without violently shaking
and possibly cracking the abutting poured concrete foundation of
our permanent home?
2. How will the sinking of these pilings not have the same effect
as dredging too close to our fresh water table?
3. What guarantee do we have that salt water will not intrude into
our drinking water well which is only 90 feet from ~ewman garage~
4. While we recognize that Mr. Newman's garage needs repair due to
termite damage further compounded by the recent heavy constructioi
why can't the garage be repaired by using treated lumber and
reseating on a minimal one-story structure foundation?
Please note that the pilings are only necessary for the proposed
2nd story to add more living space on an already heavily built
upon piece oflproperty.
Thank you for permitting us to comment.
our concerns in making your decision.
Please consider all of
Very truly yours,
Philip/R. Marriner
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Jeanne P. Marriner
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BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES
TOWN OF $OUTHOLD
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 728
Southold, New York 11971
February 11, 1986
TELEPHONE
(516) 765-1892
Mr. Frank Kujawski
P. O. Box 727
Mattituck, New York
11952
Re: John J. Newman
Wetland Application No. 335
Dear Mr. Kujawski:
Pursuant to your request please find attached copy of
the testimony taken during the Public Hearing on the above-
referenced. Also attached is the correspondence from
Mr. Fahey.
If you have any questions, or need additional information,
please do not hesitate calling this office at the telephone
number above. I Will advise you of the action taken by'~he
Board regarding th~s application after the meeting on
February 27, 1986.
Very truly yours,
Henry P. Smith, President
Board of Town Trustees
Ilene Pfifferling
Clerk to Trustees
HPS:ip
Attachments
cc: Trustees
Zoning Board of Appeals/
Building Dept.
file
BOARD OF TO~N TRUSTEES
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 728
Southold, New York 11971
TELEPHONE
{516) 765-1892
February 11, 1986
Mr. John J. Newman
147 Whitehall Blvd.
Garden City, New York
11952
Re: Wetland Application No. 335
Sailors Needle Road, Mattituck
Dear Mr. Newman:
Please be advised that the following action was taken
by the Board of Trustees at a regular meeting held on
January 23, 1986:
RESOLVED that the Application of John J. Newman be and
hereby is TABLED for one month.
Please be a!dvised that the Trustees would
an alternative way of supporting the garage.
like to see
Very truly yours,
Henry P. Smith, President
Board of Town Trustees
Ilene Pfifferl&in~ v
Clerk to Trustees
HPS:ip
cc: Trustees
Frank Kujawski
File
SECUBTIES INC.
3anuary 13, 1986
Mr. John 3. Newman
Sailors Needle Roasd
Mattituck, New York
11952
Dea~ 3ack,
After reviewing [he tnformatzon [ha~ you sent me
concernzng the razsing of the garage and [he
addzng of the two bedrooms plus a bath, as welt as
your proposed extenston to the back of the main
house, please be advised [ha[ I have no objection
[o these improvements.
You should feet free bo use this letter in connec-
tion with your appel [o [he town.
Sincere[y,
Sa~r's Needle Road
Salt Lake Village
Mattituck, New York 11952
January 8, 1986
Mr. Gerard P. Goehringer, Chairman
Southold Town Board of Appeals
Town Hall
Southold, New York 11971
Subject:
Property of John J. Newman, Sailor's Needle Rd.,
Salt Lake Village, Mattituck, County Map 144
Two appeals for variances described in notice to
adjacent property owner as pertaining to:
Article III, Section 100-119.2B and Section 100-30C
and requesting waivers to permit construction to
rear of main house plus addition of 2nd story for
living quarters to existing 4 car garage located
at waters'edge of James Creek.
Dear Sir:
As owners of the property adjacent to subject property, we are
concerned that you may not have all the details necessary to consider
Mr. J.J. Newman's petitions for variances. We, therefore, enclose
for your information an updated survey map showing all the buildings
currently on Mr. Newman's property and the correct boundary lines of
the property he purchased in 1984 from Hilda Griffiths.
On the enclosed map you will note that, in addition to
house, the 2-story lighthouse guest quarters, and the 4-car
the following was completed during 1984-85:
the main
garage,
1. in -ground swimming pool and decks
2. cabana/guesthouse
3. extensive bulkheading, walkways, etc.
Also, please note that Lot #12 of Salt Lake Village was purchased by
Marriner and Griffith in 1973 and divided. Mr. Newman owns %, not
the entire lot as indicated on the survey map he filed with your office.
We are concerned that future additions to the Newman property
could result in severe hardship to ourselves and other Salt Lake
Village residents because of the following:
1. Mr. Newman's and our property is very fragile composed of
sand and topsoil placed on top of bog in the 1930's prior to con-
struction of our houses. The property is surrounded on 3 sides by
salt water. During the 1984-85 construction on the Newman property,
our home was violently shaken on several occasions. We fear that
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the installation of 12 pilings necessary to construct a 2nd story
addition to the existing garage could cause severe vibrations resulting
in damage to our poured concrete foundation.
2. The addition of more waste disposal with the addition of new
facilities in the garage could generate a health hazard as the property
appears to be overloaded at this time. When the swimming pool was
added, the cesspool was moved closer to our drinking water wells.
Our well is 90 feet from the Newman garage and could already be in
jeopardy,
We have written to the Board of Trustees to express our concerns
regarding salt water intrusion in our water table from the pilings
construction. We have also expressed the other concerns indicated
in this letter.
We ask that you carefully consider all the ramifications of
issuing variances on property such as Mr. Newman's. While we surely
do not want to cause Mr. Newman undue hardship in maintaining his
vacation home, we also do not want our permanent home harmed and
our drinking water contaminated. We recognize that Mr. Newman's
garage needs repair due to termite damage further compounded by the
recent heavy construction, but we believe this can be remedied by
replacing the rotting timbers with treated lumber and reseating the
garage on a minimal 1-story structure foundation.
We did not have the opportunity to comment on guesthouse and
swi~aming pool construction as we were never notified of' any variances
being sought. We thank you for permitting us to comment at this time.
We hope you will seriously consider our concerns~
Very truly yours,
i
Philip R. Marriner
Jeanne P. Marriner
BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD .~
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road /~ C
P.O. Box 728
Southold, New York 11971
S.E.Q.R.A.
NEGATIVE DECLARATION
NOTICE OF NO SIGNIFICANT EFFECT ON THE ENVIRONMENT
TELEPHONE
(516) 765-1892
December 26, 1985
APPLICATION NO: 335
NAME: John J. Ne~.~man
This notice is issued pursuant to the provisions of Article
of the Environmental Conservation Law State Environmental Quality
Review and 6NYCRR Part 617, Section 617.10 and Chapter 44 of the
Code of the Town of Southold, notice is hereby given that the
Southold Twon Trustees, as lead agency for the action described
below has determined that the project will not have a significant
effect to the environment.
TYPE OF ACTION: Unlisted
DESCRIPTION OF ACTION: To place pilings, to be driven landside,
not in the creek or on wetland. Existing garage is sinking and
must be placed on pilings. Addition of second floor.
LOCATION OF PROJECT: Sailors Needle Road, Mattituck, New York;
Town of Southold, County of Suffolk and Suffolk County Tax Map
No. 1000 Section 144 Block 5 Lot 29.1.
REASONS SUPPORTING THIS DETERMINATION:
1. An environmental assessment in the short form has been
submitted which indicated that there would be no adverse
effect to the environment should the project be implemented
as planned.
2. The Conservation Advisory Council has recommended approval
and indicated that there would be no adverse effect to the
environment should the project be implemented as planned.
Page 2.
Copies to the Following:
Charles T. Hamilton, D.E.C. Stony Brook
Commissioner Henry G. Williams
Aram Terchunian, Coastal Management Program
Stephen Mars, Corps of Engineers, N. Y. Dist.
Conservation Advisory Council
Town Clerk's Bulletin Board
Mr. John Newman
Trustees
file
Building Dept.
Board of Appeals~'/
APPEALS BOARD
MEMBERS
GERARD P. O0EHRINGER, CHAIRMAN
CHARLES GRIGONIS, JR.
SERGE DOYEN, .IR,
ROBERT J. DOUGLASS
JOSEPH H. SAWlCHi
Southold Town Board of Appeals
MAIN RE)AD- BTATE ROAD 2S BnUTHI3LI:), L.I., N.Y. 11c)71
TELEPHONE (516) 765-1809
December ll, 1985
Mr. John J. Newman
147 Whitehall Boulevard
Garden City, NY 11530
Re:
Appeal No. 3441 and 3442
Variances for Addition to Dwelling and
Conversion of Accessory Garage Structure
Dear Mr. Newman:
After reviewing your recent applications for variances
we request that the following additional information be
furnished prior to field inspections and scheduling this
matter for public hearings:
(1) Four copies of an up-to-date su'rvey certifying:
(a) the location and setbacks from all property lines
of the existing garage and any proposed addition
thereto;
(b) the location and setbacks from all property lines
of the proposed addition to dwelling;
(c) all other buildings and structures, including
new and existing bulkheads, as exist today;
(d) elevation of foundation floor above mean sea
level of the addition to dwelling and the garage
construction;
(e) the present uses of all existing buildings and
changes of uses of the proposals;
(f)
all property lines, total lot size and percentage
of lot coverage by existing and proposed construction
[maximum permitted by zoning code is 20%].
Page 2 December ll, 1985
To: Mr. John J. Newman
Re: Appeal Nos. 3441 and 3442
(2) Copies of N.Y.S. Department of Environmental Conservation
permits for any and all recent construction and bulkheadin§.
Please do not hesitate to call if you have any questions.
Yours very truly,
GERARD P. GOEHRINGER
CHAIRMAN
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December 3, 1985
Ms. Linda Kowalski
BOARD OF APPEALS
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
Main Road
Southold, NY 11971
Dear Ms. Kowalski:
Enclosed are two Zoning Board of Appeal applications for my
property at Sailors Needle Road in Mattituck.
I would appreciate the opportunity to discuss with you, the
possible dates that the Appeals Board will visit the property and
hold the public meeting.
I certainly want to be there on both dates.
JJN/mac
FORM NO. 4
TOWN OF soUTHOLD
BUILDING DEPARTMENT
Office of the Building Inspector
Town Hall
Southold, N.Y-
Certilicate O| Occupancy
October 24 .......... 19.8.5.
Date .......................
No. z 3 .5.9 ...........
....... swimm±n~ pool ...............
THIS CERTIFIES that the building ........... MaLL±Luck
Sailors Needle Rd. · ...........
430 ...................... ~}r'e~ t' ...........
29.] & 30
5 .Lot ................
Location of Property ~s~'~o'. ' 1 4 4 Block ..............
County Tax Map No. 1000 Section ........... X .
.Filed Map No. · - .X ..... Lot No .............
Subdivision ...............
conforms substantially to the Application for Building Perrait heretofore fried in this office dated
13544Z
AuCUs t 1 1984 pursuant to which Building permit bio ......................
..................... ' ' ' , was issued, and conforms to all of the requirements
November 16 ....... 19~.4..
dated ..................... The occupancy for which this certificate is issued is .........
of the applicable provisions of the law.
swimming pool ......................
inground '' ' JOHN J. & LILLIAN C. NEWMAN ...
The certificate is issued to .....................
of the aforesaid building. N / A .................
Suffolk County Department of Health Approval .........................
NY~ ~897 .................
UNDER\VRITERS cERTIFICATE NO ..............
.......... Building Inspector
Rev. 1/81
FORM NO. 4
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
BUILDING DEPARTMENT
Office of the Building Inspector
Town Hall
Southold, N.Y.
Certificate Of Occupancy
No ..... Z. ! .3.9.6.0. ...... Date ......... .O.c.~.o..b ?f..2.4. ............198.5. ,
THIS CERTIFIES that the building ........ .a.d.d. $ ?.~.o.n...&..a.c..c .e?.s.o..v .y.. ...............
Location of Property 430 Sail'ors Needle Rd. Mattituck
County Tax Map No. 1000 Section ...~. 4. .q ...... Block ......... 5. .....Lot ..... .2.9...1...&..3.0..
Subdivision .......... X. .................... Filed Map No...X. ..... Lot No ....... X. ......
conforms substantially to the Application for Building Permit heretofore filed in this office dated
.... .O.c.t:..o.b.e.r.. ! .8 ..... , 19 84 pursuant to which Building Permit No. 13545 Z
dated ....... ~. o. y .e.m.b.e..~..1.6. ........ 19 .8.~., was issued, and conforms to all of the requirements
of the applicable provisions of the law. The occupancy for which this certificate is issued is .........
Deck addition to dwelling & accessory cabana for pool area.
The certificate is issued to JOHN J. & LILLIAN C. NEWMAN
(owner,
of the aforesaid building.
Suffolk County Department of Health Approval ................. .N./.A ......................
UNDERWRITERS CERTIFICATE NO ............. .~ 7.U. 9..0.~..&...~7.U. 8. 9.9 .................
Building Inspector
Rev. 1/81
TO~WN OF SOUTHOLD
OFFICE OF BUILDING INSPECTOR
TOWN HALL
SOUTHOLD, NEW YORK
'CERTiFICATE OF OCCUPANCY
NONCONFORMING PREMISES
DATE:. July 24,
~ .TPIIS IS TO CERTIFY that the Pre C.0..Z12636
I- 1 Land
/x / Building(s)
Use(s)
located at 430 Sailor's Needle Road
Street
shown on County tax map as District 1000, Section
Mattituck
Hamlet
144 , Block 5
Lot29.1 & 30, does(not)conform to the present Building Zone Code of the
Toa~n of Southold for the following reasons:
Ins6fficient 'total area, 2 car accessory garage in front yard.
Non-conforming second dwelling.
1984
On the basis of information presented to the Building Inspector's Office,
it has been determined that the above nonconforming /~/Land /~_/Bu'ilding(s)
~_/Use(s) existed on the effective date the present Building Zone Code of the
Town of Southold, and may be c~ntinued pursuant to and subject to the appli-
cable provisions of said Code.
IT IS FURTHER CERTIFIED that, based upon information presented to
the Building Inspector's'Office, the occupancy and use for whigh'this Certifi-
cate is issued is as follows: Property situated in "A" Residential-Agric-
ultural zone with access to Sailor's Needle Road' which is a nr~vate
rqad,
The Certificate is issued to
of the aforesaid building.
HILDA D. GRIFFITHS
(owner,
Su~£olk County Department of Health Approval F/A
UNDERWRITERS CERTIFICATE NO.
N/A
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that the owner of the above premises HAS
NOT CONSENTED TO AN INSPECTION of the premises by the Building Inspec-
tor to determine if the premises comply with all applicable codes and ordin-
ances, other than the Building Zone Code, and therefore, no such inspection
has been.conducted. This Certificate, therefore, does not, and is not intended
to certify that the premises comply with all other applicable codes and regula-
tions.
Building Inspector
JUDITH T. TERRY
TOWN CLERK
REGISTRAR OF VITAL STATISTICS
OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERK
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
December 4,
1985
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 728
Southold, New York 11971
TELEPHONE
(516) 765-1801
To: Southold Town Zoning Board of Appeals
From: Judith T. Terry, Southold Town Clerk
Transmitted herewith is Zoning Appeal No. 3441 application of
John J. Newman for a variance. Also included is letter to the
Board from Mr. Newman; application to and Notice of Disapproval
from the Building Department; survey; Notice to Adjacent Property
Owners; letter relative to N.Y.S. Tidal Wetlands Land-Use; Short
Environmental Assessment Form; CO from Building Department for
addition and accessory, and swimming pool: a,nd~plans.
Judith T. Terry
Southold Town Clerk
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD, NEW YORK
APPEAL FROM DECISION OF BUILDING INSPECTOR
APPEAL NO.~.~ (/-~ //
TO THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS, TOWN OF SOUTHOLD, N. Y.
1, (We) ......... ff. OHN..J,...NE~kN ......... [. ............ of ~l.42...Wl~t~hgll..J~Z~....Z., .......................
Name of AppeJlor~t Street and Number
.................... .G...a..r..d.,e.~....C..i...t.~z.~....N...-...Y........l..l...5,.3..0. ............................................ HEREBY APPEAL TO
Municipality State
THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FROM THE DECISION OF THE BUILDING IN~PECTOR ON
APPLICATION FOR PERMIT NO ..................................... DATED ............[.~/..]:.5.,,/.8..5. ........................
WHEREBY THE BUILDING INSPECTOR DENIED TO
Name of Applicant for permit
of
147 Whitehall Blvd~ Garden Citer N.Y.. 11530
Street and Number Municipality State
( ) PERMIT TO USE
( ) PERMIT FOR OCCUPANCY
(X) Construct 2nd floor living area to detached garage
1. LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY .4..3...0.....S..e:~.~,o..~.'..~s...N...e..e...d.~..e...~..c.]: ................................................
Street Use District on Zoning Map
, .1..4., .4. ............ .B...1..o..c...k., ...5..,, ,, .2..9., :., ..1.....a..., ,3., .0 ................ Current Owner Same
Map No, Lot No.
2. PROVISION (S) OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE APPEALED (Indicate the Article Section, Sub-
section and Paragraph of the Zoning Ordinance by number. Do not quote the Ordinance.)
Art. TT]] Sea. 100-30 C
3. TYPE OF APPEAL Appeal is made herewith for
(X) A VARIANCE to the Zoning Ordinance or Zoning Map
( ) A VARIANCE due to lack of access (State of New York Town Law Chap. 62 Cons. Laws
Art. 16 Sec. 280A Subsection 3
4. PREVIOUS APPEAL A previous appeal (has) (has not) been made with respect to this decision
of the Building Inspector or with respect to this property.
Such appeal was ( ) request for a special permit
( ) request for a variance
and was made in Appeal No ................................. Doted ......................................................................
( )
( )
is requested for the reason that
REASON FOR APPEAL
A Variance to Section 280A Subsection 3
A Variance to the Zoning Ordinance
present zoning causes hardship
Form ZBI (Continue on other side)
REASON FOR
Continued
1. STRICT APPLICATION OF THE ORDINANCE would produce practicaldifficultiesorunneces-
sary HARDSHIP becau~ we are in need of additional living and sleeping
area. We have a large family who stay with us in the summer as well
as on weekends as well as during other parts of the year. Existing
house cannot be added to for this area because:
1- we cannot go up with bedrooms because of existing foundation problems-
present house is sinking.
2-Layout will not allow first floor e~tension Of requirea space
Present garage is sinking and must be shored up. When shoring up
garage we would be able to construct required living area on
2nd floor.
2. The hardship created is UNIQUE and is not shared by all properties alike in the immediate
vicinity of this property and in this use district because they do not have the
problems with their foundations which I have
3. The Variance would observe the spirit of the Ordinance and WOULD NOT CHANGE THE
CHARACTER OF THE DISTRICT because building heights will not be higher
than surrounding structures. In most cases addition will not
be seen by adjoining properties.
COUNTY OF )
Sworn to this .................... ~.....4,f...~'... ............ day of....~...~~..~-.- .................. 19~
BOARD OF APPEALS, TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
In the Matter or the Petition of :
to the Board of Appeals of the Town of Southold :
TO:
NOTICE
TO
ADJACENT
PROPERTY OWNER
P. M. Fahey
39 Canterbury
Rockville Centre, N.Y. 11570
YOU ARE HEREBY GIVEN NOTICE:
1. That it is the intention of the undersigned to petition the Board of Appeals of the Town of Southotd
to request a (Variance) (Special Exception) (Special Permit) (Other) [circle choice]
).
2. That the property which is the subiect of the Petition is located adiacent to your property and is des-
cribed as follows:
3. That the property which is the subject of such Petition is located in the following zoning district:
4. That by such Petition, the undersigned will request the following relief:
sleeping and living area 2nd floor of garage.
5. That the provisions of the $outhold Town Zoning Code applicable to the relief sought by the under-
signed are Article TTT ~::~cl~_on ~00-30C
[ ] Section 280-A, New York Town Law for approval of access over right(s)-of-way.
6. That within five days from the date hereof, a written Petition requesting the relief specified above will
be filed in the $outhold Town Clerk's Office at Main Road, Southold, New York and you may then and there
examine the same during regular office hours. (516) 765--1809.
7. That before the relief sought may be granted, a public hearing must be held on the matter by the
Board of Appeals; that a notice of such hearing must be published at least five days prior to the date of such
hearing in the Suffolk Times and in the Long Island Traveler-Mattituck Watchman, newspapers published in the
Town of Southold and designated for the publication of such notices; that you or your representative have the
right to appear and be heard at such hearing.
Dated: /~
Petitioner ~.~
Owners' N a m e s .¥"'~9///-3
Post Office Address
/9'7 ,3
PROOF OF MAILING OF NOTICF
ATTACH CERTIFIED MAIL RECEIPTS
ADDRESS
P. M. Fahey
39 Canterbury
Rockville Centre, N.Y. 11570
p 128 489 ~
,~ECEIPT FOR cERTIFiED MAtL~'
NO INSURANCE COVERAGE pROVIDED
NOI FOR ~NTERNAT~ONAL MAIL
(See Reverse}
STATE OF NEW YORK )
COUNTY OF SUFFOLK)
SS.:
- ---'~-~¢'~ ~,/~-'' /~'/~/JJL/Cdk¢/~ , residing at
~-~ 5/TY / ~/ / / f~ , being duly sworn, deposes and says that on the ~day
of - ' ~¢~/~/ , 19 ~ , deponent mailed a true copy of the Notice set forth on the re-
ver~ sid~her~of, ~ir~ted to each of the above-named persons at the addresses set opposite thor respective
name; that the addresses set opposite the names of said persons are the addresses of said persons as shown on
the current ass~sment roll of the~wn of Southold; that said Notices were mailed at the United States Post Of-
rice at ~ ~/~C ~ ~ '~ ~ /~ ~ ;that said Notices were mailed to e~ of said persons by
(certified~ (r~gi~tered) mail.
Sworn to before me this ;
day of ~ ~ , 19
~ot~ry Public
DOt' ?LD T. CI_,'* ~,(
(This side does not have to be completed on form transmitted to adjoining
property owners.)
L
BOARD OF APPEALS, TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
~_.~Jn the Matter o~the Petition of
to the Board of Appeals of the Town of Southold
TO:
Philip Marriner
P.O. Box 449
Mattituck, N. Y.
11952
NOTICE
TO
ADJACEN~
PROPERTY OWNER
YOU ARE HEREBY GIVEN NOTICE:
1. That it is the intention of the undersigned to petition the Board of Appeals of the Town of Southold
torequest a.(Variance) (Special Exception) (Special Permit) (Other) [circle choice]
).
2. That the property which is the subject of the Petition is located adiacent to your property and is des-
cribed as follows:
3. That the property which is the subject of such Petition is located in the following zoning district:
4. That by such Petition, the undersigned will request the following relief:
sleeping and living area 2nd floor of garage
Addition
$. That the provisions of the Southold Town Zoning Code applicable to the relief sought by the under-
signed are Article III Section q ~n_n_30C
[ ] Section 280-A, New York Town Law for approval of access over right(s)-of-way.
6. That within five days from the date hereof, a written Petition requesting the relief specified above will
be filed in the Southold Town Clerk's Office at Main Road, Southotd, New York and you may then and there
examine the same during regular office hours. (516) 765-1809.
7. That before the relief sought may be granted, a public hearing must be held on the matter by the
Board of Appeals; that a notice of such hearing must be published at least five days prior to the date of such
hearing in the Suffolk Times and in the Long Island Traveler-Mattituck Watchman, newspapers published in the
Town of Southold and designated for the publication of such notices; that you or your representative have the
right to appear and be heard at such hearing.
Petitioner
Post Office Address
/¢7 # ,3
NAME
PROOF OF MAILING OF NOTICF
ATTACH CERTIFIED MAIL RECEIPTS
ADDRESS
P. Marriner
RECEIPT FOR CERTIFIED MAIL ~'~
NO INSURANCE COVERAGE PROVIDED
NOT FOR INTERNATIONAL MAIL
(See Reverse)
P.O. Box 449
Mattituck, N.
Y. 11952
STATE OF NEW YORK )
COUNTY OFSUFFOLK)
SS.:
~-'-'O,/'f/t~, %F,/J~(J~/'/'-"~ , residing at
~ ~ ~ /~ ~/' ~/ , being duly sworn, deposes and says that on the ~ day
of ~~ , 19 ~ , deponent mailed a true copy of the Notice set forth on the re-
verse side ~ereof, directed to each of the above-named persons at the addresses set opposite thor respective
name; that the addresses set opposite the names of said persons are the addresses of said persons as shown on
the curre~assmsment roll of t~ Town of Southold; that said Notices were mai~d at the United Stat~ Post Of-
riceat ~/~f~~U~;thatsaidNo~~~~idpersonsby
(certified) (registered) mail.
Sworn to before m~ ~is ~ .
day of ~ ~ ~19
Notary Public
(This side does not have to be completed on form transmitted to adjoining
property owners.)