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FROM:
RE:
DATE:
Town Assessor
Board of Assessment Review
RECEIYED
ORDER FOR CHANGE IN TENTATIVE ASSESSMEN~Old TOWll Clerk
July 1, 2005
The Board of Assessment Review for the Town of Southold, has duly met to hear
Complaints or grievances on the tentative town assessment roll for the tax year 2005/06,
as prescribed by law.
The Board, having duly convened, has considered each and every complaint or grievance
on the assessments for the tax year indicated, as filed with this Board, as prescribed by
law.
A majority of the Board has determined that all the changes indicated on the attached
page(s) will be made on the assessment roll by the Assessor.
Total number of complaints submitted by Assessor __299__
Total number of complaints received on Grievance Day __ 3 __
Total number of signed stipulations 15
Total number o f COITeCtion of errors 151
Total number of complaints reviewed by the Board __468__
Total number of reductions in assessment 2
Total number of withdrawals 1
Total number of dismissals 0
Total number of grievances without a change __299
NOW, THEREFORE, the Board of Assessment Review hereby orders the Board of
Assessors to make all changes in assessments as determined by the Board of Assessment
Review on the assessment roll of the Town of Southold, for the tax year 2005/06, in
conformance with this order.
STATE OF NEW YORK }
COUNTY OF SUFFOLK }
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD }
The undersigned, being duly sworn do severally depose and say that deponents
are members of the Board of Assessment Review; that deponents have read the
foregoing and know the contents thereof; and the matters set forth are true to the best of
the deponent's knowledge.
Sworn before me this~'qt~ay
of June, 2. t919~' .
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FROM:
RE:
DATE:
Elizabeth Neville, Town Clerk
Board of Assessment Review
REPORT BOARD OF ASSESSMENT REViEW - TAX YEAR 2005-06
July 1, 2005
Attached herewith please find for public filing in your office, complete file covering the
public hearing(s) of the Board of Assessment Review, together with changes ordered by
this Board to the assessment roll, Assessors' acknowledgement, etc.
The duties of the Board of Assessment Review for the grievance period covering the
2005/06 assessment roll are completed.
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Form BAR-4
Grievance Commercial 2005
Name SCTM# Prop. Code Date Result
1 7-Eleven Inc. 46-1-2.2 450 5/16/05 Denied
2 7-Eleven Inc. 62-3-37 484 5/16/05 Denied
3 7-Eleven Inc. 102-5-24 484 5/16/05 Denied
4 372 Jericho Corp 84-1-26.3 449 5/13/05 Denied
5 808 Realt~ Corp. 102-5-26 432 5/11/05 Denied
6 Aliano Margaret 83-1-15 311 5/11/05 Denied
7 Aliano Margaret 83-1-13 311 5/11/05 Denied
8 Aliano Nicholas 83-I-14 31 l 5/11/05 Denied
9 Aliano Nicholas 83-1-12 311 5/11/05 Denied
10 Aliano Nicholas 83-1-1 l 591 5/11/05 Denied
11 Anl~elina Properties LLC 114-12-2 484 5/4/05 Denied
12 Bank of New York 1001-4-10-5 461 5/13/05 Denied
13 Beachcomber 83-2-1 415 5/17/05 Denied
14 Beachcomber 83-2-2 554 5/17/05 Denied
15 Blocker Julius P.C. 87-6-12.1 311 5/11/05 Denied
139 BostwickBay Co 45-6-4 431 5/17/05 Denied
146 Burton Si~id 10014-10-14 418 5/17/05 Denied
143 Ced~r~field Realt~ 63-3-8 482 5/17/05 Denied
161 Costello John & ano 1001-2o3-13.1 570 5/17/05 Denied
16 Cove at Southold Bd of Man~ 87.1-1-1 thru 33 411 5/13/05 Denied
17 Cozy Corp. 79 70-2-11 485 5/6/05 Denied
18 Cozy Corp. 79 60-2-4 483 5/6/05 Denied
19 CSC Acquisition 52-5-59.5 449 5/4/05 Denied
20 Cutchco Corp 60-2-3.1 438 5/11/05 Denied
21 Damianos Alexander 85-2-11.1 152 5/12/05 Denied
22 Damianos Alexander 85-2-13.2 311 5/12/05 Denied
23 Damianos Herodotos 59-3-28.5 130 5/12/05 Denied
24 Damianos Herodotos 74-4-3.2 152 5/12/05 Denied
25 Damianos Herodotos 74-1-38 105 5/12/05 Denied
26 Damianos Herodotos 74-1-42.7 120 5/12/05 Denied
27 Damianos Herodotos 84-4-10.1 152 5/12/05 Denied
28 Damianos Herodotos 85-2-9.2 152 5/12/05 Denied
29 Damianos Herodotos 85-1-10 152 5/12/05 Denied
30 ~ Damianos Herodotos 85-2-15 120 5/12/05 Denied
31 Damianos Herodotos 86-1-15 152 5/12/05 Denied
138 Damianos Herodotos 85-1-9 152 5/17/05 Denied
152 Dank Leonard & Beryl 97-1-1 120 5/17/05 Denied
32 FHV LLC 61-1-13.1 452 5/11/05 Denied
33 FHV LLC 633 N Mgmt I_LC 59-9-30.4 484 5/11/05 Denied
34 , Genovese Dml~ Stores Inc 142-1-26 452 5/11/05 Denied
35 Getty Petroleum Markting Inc 1001-4-8-35 432 5/11/05 Denied
151 Giannaris John & ors 35-2-14 421 5/17/05 Denied
36 Greenport Food 1001-4-8-35 432 5/6/05 Denied
37 Greenport Motel & Spa 1001-4-8-29 312 5/6/05 Denied
147 Greenport Yacht & Shipbuild 1001-5-3-10 448 5/17/05 Denied
38 Greenporter Motel & Spa 1001-4-8-31 415 5/6/05 Denied
39 Greenporter Motel & Spa 1001-4-8-30 415 5/6/05 Denied
40 Handy Pantry Stores Inc. 114-12-3. l 480 5/13/05 Denied
41 Hardy Joseph & Betty 114-I 1-5 485 5/6/05 Denied
42 Hawkeye Energy Greenport 1001-1-1-1.1 853 5/11/05 Denied
144 Hennessey / Fontana 96-5-8 449 5/17/05 Denied
43 Junge Arthur 96-1-19.1 440 5/13/05 Denied
44 King Kullen Grocery Co Inc 97-5-12 452 5/11/05 Denied
45 L&R Vineyards Associates 101-1-5.2 152 5/11/05 Denied
46 L&R Vineyards Associates 101-1-4.1 120 5/11/05 Denied
47 Leon Petroleum LLC 115-3-9 432 5/l 1/05 Denied
48 Leon Petroleum LLC 74-4-7.1 432 5/11/05 Denied
140 Lexvis Family Properties Part. 48-2-I 440 5/17/05 Denied
141 Lewis Family Properties Part. 48-2-44.3 440 5/17/05 Denied
49 Lizewski Joseph J. 102-2-12.1 480 5/4/05 Denied
149 Maintree Corp/JoanTurmrro 18-6-10 418 5/17/05 Denied
50 Maiorana Aldo 1001-5-4-17 481 5/11/05 Denied
51 Maritime Funding Group Ltd. 1001-5 -3 -7 449 5/6/05 Denied
52 Marlake Islip Co. LLC 73-3-1.1 120 5/11/05 Denied
53 Marlake Islip Co. LLC 84-2-4. l 120 5/11/05 Denied
54 Mattimck Products Co LLC 122-7-3.1 426 5/17/05 Denied
55 Merlot LLC 75-2-2.l 129 5/12/05 Denied
56 Merlot LLC 75-2-2.2 3ll 5/12/05 Denied
155 Middle Road Shopping Center 12l-2-1 485 5/17/05 Denied
57 Monica & Mike LI.C 114-3-1 570 5/6/05 Denied
160 Montgomery Michael & Maria 140-3-31 483 5/17/05 Denied
58 Mooney Maureen M 122-3-5.1 484 5/13/05 Denied
59 Neuberger Wemer 44.1-1-7 411 5/11/05 Denied
60 North Fork Bank 141-4-6.1 463 5/11/05 Denied
61 North Fork Bank 1001-4-10-10. l 461 5/11/05 Denied
62 North Fork Bank 61-2-12.2 460 5/11/05 Denied
63 North Fork Bank 102-6-13.1 463 5/11/05 Denied
64 North Fork Bank 122-6-22.1 463 5/11/05 Denied
65 North Fork Bank 141-3-30 311 5/11/05 Denied
66 North Fork Bank 141-4-2 31 l 5/11/05 Denied
67 North Fork Bank 141-4-3 330 5/4/05 Denied
68 North Fork Beach Condo 135.1-1-I thru 46 411 5/11/05 Denied
69 North Fork Prof. Realty 63-l-19 465 5/11/05 Denied
154 Off Fairway Inc 102-6-18.1 421 5/17/05 Denied
159 Orlowski Hardware 140-3-3.4 484 5/17/05 Denied
153 OvsianikAllen ! 97-2-15 432 5/17/05 Denied
70 Oyster Pt Condo Bd of Man~'s 1001-7.1-1-1 thru 34 411 5/6/05 Denied
156 Peconic Homes Corp 121-3 -7.4 120 5/17/05 Denied
150 Peconic Landingat Southold 35-1-25 642 5/17/05 Denied
71 Pelle~rini Holdings LLC 109-1-8.7 120 5/11/05 Denied
72 Pelle~rini Peconic LLC 86-l-9.3 129 5/11/05 Denied
73 Pelle~ini Robert & Rita 69-5-19 129 5/11/05 Denied
74 Pindar Associates 85-2-14 120 5/12/05 Denied
75 Pindar Associates 113-7-19.24 120 5/12/05 Denied
76 Pindar Associates 113-7-19.25 120 5/12/05 Denied
77 Pindar Associates 113-7-19.26 129 5/12/05 Denied
78 Pindar Vineyards LLC 108-4-1.1 120 5/12/05 Denied
79 Pipes Cove Condo Bd of Man. 100l-7-1-16.5 411 5/11/05 Denied '
80 Pipes Cove Condo Bd of Man. 1001-7-1-16.4 411 5/I 1/05 Denied
81 Pipes Cove Condo Bd of Man. 1001-7-1-16.3 411 5/11/05 Denied
82 Pipes Cove Condo Bd of Man. 1001-7-1-16.2 411 5/I 1/05 Denied
83 Pipes Cove Condo Bd of Man. 49-1-25.6 41 l 5/11/05 Denied
84 Pipes Cove Condo Bd of Man. 49-1-25.5 411 5/11/05 Denied
85 Pipes Cove Condo Bd of Man. 49-1-25.4 411 5/11/05 Denied
86 Pipes Cove Condo Bd of Man. 49-1-25.3 41 l 5/11/05 Denied
87 Pipes Cove Condo Bd of Man. 49-1-25.2 411 5/11/05 Denied
88 Pirrera Anthony 55-2-21 330 5/11/05 Denied
89 Pirrera Anthony 55-2-20 485 5/11/05 Denied
90 Pirrera LP 110-4-12.2 31 l 5/11/05 Denied
157 Premium Wine Holdings LLC 121-6-1 449 5/17/05 Denied
162 Preston ST & Sons Inc 1001-4-10-1 481 5/17/05 Denied
91 Research Charters 1001-5-3-8 448 5/6/05 Denied
92 RI-IX Corp. 96-2-7 120 5/12/05 Denied
93 Riverhead Bldg. Supply 46-1-2.3 444 5/16/05 Denied
94 Romanelli Realty 60-1-6 441 5/11/05 Denied
145 Rothberg / Palmieri 112-l-12.2 31t 5/17/05 Denied
142 Schoenhaar Roy 56-7-2 421 5/17/05 Denied
95 Sea Breeze Villa[ge Condo 44.1-1-16 411 5/11/05 Denied
96 Sea Breeze Village Condo 44.1-1-15 411 5/11/05 Denied
97 Sea Breeze Village Condo 44.1-1-14 411 5/11/05 Denied
98 Sea Breeze Village Condo 44.1-1-13 411 5/11/05 Denied
99 Sea Breeze Village Condo 44.1-1-12 41l 5/11/05 Denied
100 Sea Breeze Village Condo 44.1-1-ll 41 l 5/11/05 Denied
101 Sea Breeze Village Condo 44.1-1-10 411 5/11/05 Denied
102 Sea Breeze Village Condo 44.1-1-9 411 5/11/05 Denied
103 Sea Breeze Villa[ge Condo 44.1-1-8 4ll 5/11/05 Denied
104 Sea Breeze Villa[ge Condo 44.1-1-7 411 5/11/05 Denied
105 Sea Breeze Village Condo 44.1-1-6 41l 5/11/05 Denied
106 Sea Breeze Village Condo 44.1-1-5 411 5/11/05 Denied
107 Sea Breeze Village Condo 44.1-1-4 411 5/11/05 Denied
108 SeaBreeze Village Condo 44.1-1r3 411 5/11/05 Denied
109 Sea Breeze Village Condo 44.1-1-2 411 5/11/05 Denied
110 Sea Breeze Village Condo 44.1-1-1 411 5/11/05 Denied
l 11 Serota Cutchogue LLC 97-5-12 452 5/6/05 Denied
112 Silver Sands Motel, Inc 45-6-8 323 5/ll/05 Denied
113 Silver Sands Motel, Inc. 47-2-1 311 5/11/05 Denied
114 Silver Sands Motel, Ioc. 47-2-8 311 5/ll/05 Denied
115 Silver Sands Motel, Inc. 47-2-9 415 5/11/05 Denied
116 Silver Sands Motel, Inc. 47-2-ll 415 5/11/05 Denied
117 Silver Sands Motel, Inc. 47-2-13 415 5/11/05 Denied
118 Silver Sands Motel, Inc. 47-2-14 417 5/11/05 Denied
119 Silver Sands Motel, Inc. 45-6-1 311 5/11/05 Denied
120 Silver Sands Motel, Inc. 45-6-2 464 5/11/05 Denied
121 Sterlin~onCommons 100l-6-2-23.5 452 5/11/05 Denied
158 Strong's Marine Inc 122-9-6.2 570 5/17/05 Denied
122 Suffolk Bancorp/SCNB 97-5-12 452 5/10/05 Denied
123 Suffolk Bancorp/SCNB 143-3-4.2 462 5/10/05 Denied
124 Terranova, Giacomo 121-2-I 485 5/14/05 Denied
125 TJS Enterprises 12-1-3 449 5/6/05 Denied
126 US Postal Service 140-3-42.3 485 5/11/05 Denied
127 US Postal Service 102-5-2 484 5/11/05 Denied
128 US Postal Service 25-1-18 481 5/11/05 Denied
164 Van Bourl~ondien CJ Inc. 85-2-7 5/17/05 Denied
165 Vans Family Farm LLC 85-2-31 5/17/05 Denied
129 Vitale John 1001-5-4-33.1 481 5/11/05 Denied
130 Waldbaum's, Inc. 142-1-26 452 5/4/05 Denied
13l Walsh Park Benev. Corp. 9.-54 483 5/17/05 Denied
148 Watts Harold 1001-6-2-17 432 5/17/05 Denied
132 Weiss Russell 100-2-5.5 129 5/11/05 Denied
133 Weiss Russell 100-2-5.4 473 5/11/05 Denied
134 WMS Realty 97-5-4.7 452 5/13/05 Denied
135 WoodhavenManor Realty 95-1-7.2 120 5/12/05 Denied
136 WoodhavenManor Realty 95-1-8.3 120 5/12/05 Denied
137 Zurawski John 108.-3-8.2 270 5/17/05 Denied
Grievance 2005
Residential
NAME SCTM# Code Date submitted Result
163 Walsh Park Benev. Corp 6-7-9 210 5/17/05 Denied
164 Walsh Park Benev. Corp 10-7-7 210 5/17/05 Denied
165 Crokos John & Joanne 14-2-3.11 210 5/17/05 Denied
166 Kou[entakis Eleftherios & Dimitra 14-2-30.2 210 5/17/05 Denied
167 Oliver Barbara 15-1-19 210 5/17/05 Denied
168 Fran[~opoulos Pana[iotis & Fotmi I5-2-6 210 5/17/05 Denied
169 Kara~iannia Sotirios 15-4-2 210 5/17/05 Denied
170 Campo Gary 15-6-24 210 5/17/05 Denied
171 Laporta Jeanne Marie 18-3-3 210 5/17/05 Denied
172 An~elson Perry & Melina 21-1-12 210 5/17/05 Denied
173 Gianukakis Ida 21-5-16 210 5/17/05 Denied
174 Frisenda Arthur Jr. & Ditizio Regi 21-6-1 210 5/17/05 Denied
175 Re[ina Ditzio 21-6-5 210 5/17/05 Denied
176 Maxwell Gina 25-3-3.1 210 5/17/05 Denied
177 Thalassmos, George & Vasiliki 31-3-3 210 4/26/05 Withdrawn
178 Costello Jack & Karen 31-4-16.9 210 5/17/05 Denied
179 Rogers Jori & Jacquelme Trustees 31-8-4 210 5/17/05 Denied
180 Ghnsio Robert Jr. &Gail 33-4-48 210 5/17/05 Denied
181 Speleotes Vassilios & Maureen 33-4-60 210 5/17/05 Denied
182 Licciardi Joseph & Pino, Catherine 38-2-31 2 I0 5/17/05 Denied
183 Pearce Carol 38-5-2 210 5/17/05 Denied
184 Peluso Anthony R. & Wilemina V. 43-4-37 210 5/17/05 Denied
185 Greenport Group LLC 45-2-10.5 280 5/6/05 Denied
186 Silver Sands Motel, Inc. 47-2-12 210 5/11/05 Denied
187 Silver Sands Motel, Inc. 47-2-15 210 5/11/05 Denied
188 Field Frank Realt~ Inc 48-3-20.1 210 5/17/05 Denied
189 Ri~as Angelo 50-4-2.4 210 5/17/05 Denied
190 Dursunian Atto & Diane 52-3-16 210 5/17/05 Denied
191 Brasca John 52-8-2 210 5/17/05 Denied
192 Schwab Steven & Finnegan Helen 54-3-26.7 210 5/17/05 Denied
193 Mousiades John & Irene 54-5-46.3 210 5/17/05 Denied
194 Grattan Christopher & Heidemarie 54-7-18.8 210 5/17/05 Denied
195 Braslow Robert N 59-4-5.13 210 5/13/05 Denied
196 Morin Nicholas John & Anna 62-3-40' 210 5/17/05 Denied
197 Baldxvin Scott & L)~nne 63-1-13.1 210 5/17/05 Denied
198 Charles Barry 63-7-14 210 5/17/05 Denied
199 Rubin Stanley 63-7-17.4 210 5/17/05 Denied
200 Dinoto John & Jeanmarie 64-4-14.3 210 5/12/05 Denied
201 McDowell Kathleen 70-2-1 210 5/17/05 Denied
202 Rubin Lawrence & Virginia 70-2-26.2 210 5/17/05 Denied
203 Tonyes Edwin & Margaret 70-2-28 210 5/17/05 Denied
204 Lee Frederick & Karen 70-3-20 210 5/17/05 Denied
205 O'Donnel Trust c/o D O'Donnell 70-4-19 210 5/17/05 Denied
206 Dewey William & Mary 70-4-34 210 5/17/05 Denied
207 Wanser Edward & Regina 70-11-4 210 5/17/05 Denied
208 Vaccariello Kathleen 70-12-20 210 5/17/05 Denied
209 ; WnidischLeslie 70-13-20.10 210 5/17/05 Denied
210 Damianos Herodotos 74-1-42.6 210 5/12/05 Denied
211 Paliouras Andreas & Stacy 74-4-9 210 5/17/05 Denied
212 Pellesrini, Robert & Rita J. 75-2-16.1 210 5/11/05 Denied
213 MacArthur Dou$ & Caroline 75-4-14 210 5/17/04 Denied
214 Fristachi Joseph & Angela 75-6-9.5 210 5/17/05 Denied
215 Milowski Christopher & Tracey 76-2-24 210 5/17/05 Denied
216 Valiotis Evanthia 78-2-1 210 5/17/05 Denied
217 Holobil~ian Rita 78-2-22 210 5/17/05 Denied
218 Mohr Robert & Andrea 78-3-34.2 210 5/17/05 Denied
219 Mitchel Raymond 78-3-60 210 5/17/05 Denied
220 Broderick Judy & Thomas 78-3-66 210 5/17/05 Denied
221 Baxter Mark 78-7~5.2 210 5/17/05 Denied
222 Spaeth Peter & Cyra 78-7-40 210 5/17/05 Denied
223 Colella Antonio & Anna 79-2-3.6 210 5/17/05 Denied
303 Becket Susan 79-5-16.1 210 5/17/05 Stipulation
$17,400
reduced to
15,600
224 Pemcone Frank & Carole 79-7-26 210 5/17/05 Demed
225 McGum Edward 80-1-30 210 5/17/05 Demed
226 Forchelli, Rosaria 80-3-16 210 5/10/05 Demed
227 Damianos Alexander 85-2-13.1 210 5/12/05 Denied
228 Jacobsen Frank 86-1-4.12 210 5/17/05 Denied
229 DeSimone Scott & Melissa 86-1-7 210 5/17/05 Denied
230 Pellegrnii Pecomc LLC 86-1-9.1 210 5/11/05 Denied
231 Laviola Anthony & Hedy 88-6-13.33 210 5/17/05 Denied
232 Hurley Britt & Pat 88-6-13.49 210 5/17/05 Denied
233 Endemann Nancy & Frederic 97-2-16.3 210 5/17/05 Denied
234 Nicolini Anthony & Jane 97-2-18 210 5/17/05 Denied
235 Goeller Thomas & Sharon 97-3-20.1 210 5/17/05 Denied
236 Stepnoski Frank & Doris 97-8-2 210 5/17/05 Demed
237 Horton Richard & wf 98-1-26 210 5/11/05 Denied
238 McCarthy Charles & Anne 100-1-16 210 5/17/05 Demed
239 Slezak Frances & Sommerstad, Alf 101-1-16.2 210 5/17/05 Denied
240 Beebe Susan 102-1-4.3 210 5/17/05 Denied
241 Slifkin Robert & Margaret 103-3- I 1 210 5/17/05 Denied
242 Heam John & Joan 103-4-45 210 5/17/05 Denied
243 Disney Charles 103-13-2 210 5/17/05 Denied
244 Walsh David & O'Keefe Judy 103-13-15 210 5/17/05 Denied
245 Branker Claudia 104-5-31.1 210 5/17/05 Denied
246 Schneider Kenneth & Cheryl 104-5-36 210 5/17/05 Denied
247 Frenz Thomas 104-9-4.2 210 5/17/05 Denied
248 Koutsouras Voula 106-1-16 210 5/17/05 Denied
249 Talas Parie 106-1-43 210 5/17/05 Exemption
~ranted
250 Meskouris Chris & Helen 106-2-30 210 5/17/05 Denied
251 Frangas Emanuel 106-2-31 210 5/17/05 Demed
305 Wojtas Jennifer 106-5-3l 210 5/17/05 Denied
252 Franl~as Harriet & Frangas Jack 106-5-35 210 5/17/05 Denied
253 Konstanttinides Catherine 106-7-44 210 5/17/05 Demed
304 Hedgecock Thomas 106-8-13 210 5/17/05 Denied
254 Simons Roberta & Stephen Marshall 107-2-7 210 5/17/05 Denied
255 Pindar Vineyards 107-7-12 210 5/12/05 Denied
256 Todrick Frank & Nancy Ann 108-3-5.10 210 5/17/05 Denied
137 Zurawski John 108-3-8.2 270 5/17/05 Denied
257 Nolan Thomas 109-3-2.7 210 5/17/05 Denied
258 Fomasar Edward & Judith 109-3-2.14 210 5/17/05 Denied
259 Woodhull Terry & Laura 109-3-2.17 210 5/17/05 Denied
260 Boucher Thomas & Anne 109-5-14.6 210 5/17/05 Denied
261 Howe David & Tricia 110-5-45 210 5/17/05 Denied
262 Kofmas George & Maria 110-7-18.2 210 5/17/05 Denied
263 Soto John 111-2-4 210 5/17/05 Denied
264 Brantuk Joseph G 111 - 14-5.4 210 5/13/05 Denied
265 Blessinger Lawrence H 114-7-10.6 210 5/13/05 Denied
266 Blessinger Lawrence H 114-7-10.12 210 5/13/05 Denied
267 Rutkoski Henry & Helen 115-2-11 210 5/17/05 Denied
268 Cianfrogna Ronald Jr. & Maria 115-4-6 210 5/17/05 Denied
269 Castoldi, Douglas 115-4-32 210 5/12/05 Denied
270 Lobick Robert & Marilyn 1 l 5-5-7 210 5/17/05 Denied
271 Majewski Wojtek 115-13-16 210 5/17/05 Denied
272 Whalen John & Audrey 115-13-20 210 5/17/05 Denied
273 Sciacchitano David 115-15-24 210 5/17/05 Denied
274 Peeling Dennis & Barbara 115-17-17.26 210 5/17/05 Denied
275 Magg Susan 116-7-4.1 210 5/17/05 Denied
276 Koehler Frederick W Jr 117-3-6 210 5/11/05 Denied
277 Kenny Peter & Phyllis 122-4-41 210 5/12/05 Denied
278 McKinnon James & Barbara 122-5-22.1 210 5/17/05 Denied
279 Strong's Marine Inc 122-9-3 210 5/17/05 Denied
280 Kabakov Emilia & Ilya 123-8-5 210 5/17/05 Denied
281 Markowski Mitchell 125-1-2.24 210 5/17/05 Denied
282 Mowdy James & Karen 125-4-24.9 210 5/17/05 Denied
283 Zinmoski Joseph & Barbara 126-2-5 210 5/17/05 Denied
284 Tuthill Allan & Helen 126-2-9 210 5/17/05 Denied
285 Abbott John 126-5-1 210 5/17/05 Denied
286 Pisani Edwin & Margaret 126-11-9.1 210 5/17/05 Denied
287 Bourhnulis Peter 127-4-6 210 5/17/05 Denied
288 Rizzella Michael 127-4-7 210 5/17/05 Denied
289 Fedan Deirdre & Patrick 127-9-4 210 5/11/05 Denied
290 Silleck Charles & Mary 127-9-6 210 5/15/05 Denied
291 Valek Richard & Sharon 127-9-13 210 5/17/05 Denied
292 Scaparro Bernardo 127-9-19 210 5/17/05 Denied
293 Grinere David & Melissa 127-9-23 210 5/17/05 Denied
294 Seifert John & Tara 127-9-24 210 5/17/05 Denied
295 Ragozzine Kenneth & Sandy 127-9-26 210 5/17/05 Denied
296 Pelle[Tini, Robert & Rita J. 137-34 210 5/11/05 Denied
297 Garcia Abraham (Alex) 143-1-7 210 5/17/05 Denied
298 McGrath Richard & Laura Jean 1001-3-3-28 260 5/12/05 Denied
299 Weiss, Kathleen & Stephen 1001-3-4-33 220 5/6/05 Stipulation
$14,300
reduced to
11,800
300 Field Frank A Realt~ Inc 1001-4-1-13 210 5/17/05 Denied
301 Horowitz Jonathan 1001-4-3-32 210 5/17/05 Denied
302 Kulsziski Paul 1001-4-7-16 210 5/17/05 Denied
Robert I. Scott Jr., Chairman
Scott A. Russell, Assessor
Darline J. Duffy, Assessor
Southold Town Hall, 53095 Route 25
P.O. Box 1179
Southold, NY 11971-0959
Fax: (631) 765-1356
Telephone: (631) 765-1937
BOARD OF ASSESSORS
TOWN OF SOUTItOLD
BOARD OF ASSESSMENT REVIEW
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
53095 MAIN ROAD
SOUTHOLD, NY 11971
TRANSCRIPT OF HEARINGS
GRIEVANCE DAY
MAY '17, 2005
Chairman Jonathan Wiggins declared the meeting in session at 9:02 a.m.
Present were:
Board of Assessment Review: Jonathan Wiggins, Chairman; Phyllis Atkinson, Member;
Daniel McConlogue, Member; Gerry Schultheis, Member.
Board of Assessors: Robed I. Scott, Jr., Chairman; Scott A. Russell; Darline J. Duffy
JONATHAN WIGGINS: The Board of Assessment Review is here in Southold town, today May 17,
2005. It's now two minutes after 9:00. Today are Board of Assessment Review Gerry Schultheis,
Phyllis Atkinson, Daniel McConlogue and taking over the late Thomas Ryan who will be greatly missed
from this Board will be Leah Sullivan who unfortunately resigned because she could not make this
Grievance. I am Jonathan Wiggins, the Chairman. It is officially open and we would like to swear in the
assessors.
DANIEL MCCONLOGUE: Raise your right hand please. You may solemnly swear that this testimony
you will be given in this proceeding in all future adjournments will be the truth, the whole truth and
nothing but the truth so help you God.
ROBERT SCOTT: I do.
DARLINE DUFFY: I do.
SCOTT RUSSELL: I do.
DANIEL MCCONLOGUE: Please state your name for the record.
SCOTT RUSSELL: Scott Allen Russell, Assessor.
ROBERT SCOTT: Robert I. Scott, Jr., Assessor.
DARLINE DUFFY: Darline J. Duffy, Assessor.
JONATHAN WIGGINS: Okay, let the show begin.
PARLE TALAS: We into the office to make copies. Do you have them? Oh, I'll give you the original. I
have the letter here. Mr. Russell called me about a month ago but obviously he didn't care.
JONATHAN WIGGINS: Let me look at your copies.
PARLE TALAS: This is the one I filed today. Now this is the Homestead exemption that my husband
takes in Florida and I take it in Mattituck.
JONATHAN WIGGINS: You're a resident there?
PARLE TALAS: Well we own a small condo and my husband about 5 years ago his license expired and
when he went to renew them, he was born in Florida by the way, then they gave him the license there.
And over here they kick him out. So, he had to pay a fare and they mentioned to him that he can get a
Homestead if you are born in this country, the license is here, so he applied for it. I didn't apply for it, he
applied for it. In the meantime we asked them there if it's okay because I have the Star program, and
they said it was okay. Here's a copy that they gave us there. And now Mr. Russell thinks it wasn't right
what we did.
JONATHAN WIGGINS: Okay we are going to review this. This says that you are taking an exemption
for your property in Palm Beach and they are asking for...
PARLE TALAS: rm taking one here.
JOANTHAN WIGGINS: And it's in you're name that you are taking here.
PARLE TALAS: Yes and he's taking it there.
JONATHAN WIGGINS: You're a resident of...
PARLE TALAS: And the house was transferred in my name since 1982. It wasn't done recently.
JONATHAN WIGGINS: You live up here in New York?
PARLE TALAS: Yeah, I live here most of the time, 6 or more times in the winters. Nobody goes there.
JONATHAN WIGGINS: Do you have a driver's license?
PARLE TALAS: Pardon me.
JONATHAN WIGGINS: Do you have a driver's license?
PARLE TALAS: Yes.
JONATHAN WIGGINS: You're both here in New York for the summer?
PARLE TALAS: Yes, I live in Florida since 1950 and Mattituck 1973, when we built the house.
JAMES TALAS: Can I say something?
JONATHAN WIGGINS: Okay, if you could swear in the witness.
DANIEL MCCONLOGUE: We're going to Swear in for the testimony you're about to give. Raise your
right hand please. Do you solemnly swear that this testimony you will be given in this proceeding is the
truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help you God.
PARLE TALAS: '(es.
DANIEL MCCONLOGUE: Would you state your name for the records please.
PARLE TALAS: P-A-R-I-E T-A-L-A-S.
DANIEL MCCONLOGUE: The assessors have already been sworn so if they testify in this proceeding,
they are under oath, too.
PARLE TALAS: Okay.
DANIEL MCCONLOGUE: I'm trying to get the picture. Uh, you own a condo in Florida where you enjoy
an exemption there. The title in that condo is in just your husband's name.
PARLE TALAS: Yes.
DANIEL MCCONLOGUE: You own real estate in Southold
PARLE TALAS: Yes. In Mattituck.
DANIEL MCCONLOGUE: And that is in your name.
PARLE TALAS: Yes.
DANIEL MCCONLOGUE: And you are applying for the Enhanced Star.
PARLE TALAS: We have the Enhanced Star.
DANIEL MCCONLOGUE: You have it.
PARLE TALAS: But I was notified that I am not going to have it or there is going to be a big deal that I'm
not going to have it but it is at the time.
JONATHAN WIGGINS: Well, do we have any questions.
JONATHAN WIGGINS: We have your grievance statement hare. We also have your copy of your deed
that says that the properly is in your name since 1982 and I have your Florida exemption in your
husband's name. Let's see what else we have here. Okay and we have here a notice of dual
application. Oh not dual, it's denial. Okay so we have here, your denial. Much clearer to where that
was coming from. Okay, thank you. We are going to review this. I want to here from Mr. Russell now.
PARLE TALAS: Okay.
SCOTT RUSSELL: We denied the exemption because in NY State you're not entitled to receive a Star
exemption if you claim you and your spouse claim residency in another jurisdiction. It's that simple. You
can't have two exemptions in two different places. The fact that the deed is only in her name doesn't
entitle her to an exemption in NY while her husband can receive the exemption in Florida. in Florida,
they do allow for separate Homestead exemptions for a husband and wife who maintain separate
residencies and second family units. That's at the discretion of the assessor. It's for the assessor in
Florida to determine whether they be entitled to Homestead exemptions in two different locations down
there. Again, that would require the establishing separate residencies on both their parts, separate but
what they call family units and that's quoted in their own statute. New York does not have that provision.
A husband and wife are considered the same under the rules of New York State and in NY you can't do
that. So the fact that Florida even allows in certain circumstances separate exemptions is irrelevant to
NY statute. It's not allowed in NY. The husband and wife have to be both reside in the home, they have
to claim it as their principal domicile. That wasn't the case here; the application was proved in 2004, the
applicants had submitted that "we are currently residing in Florida for the winter months." They both
signed the application. It says all resident owners must sign and date. They both signed and they both
dated it 2005. They came to our attention that they are in fact one of them is a resident of Florida and
therefore representing themselves as a resident of New York State and wa had no choice but deny it.
You cannot have separate residencies, it is as simple as that, and regardless what Florida's statute
says. We are governed by NY statute, not by Florida statute. So they are not entitled to the exemption
in NY State.
DANIEL MCCONLOGUE: Can we see the law?
SCOTT RUSSELL: Yup, this is the application they both signed and dated. We asked for income
information. They said they were going to submit, we need the 2003 for information. I'll give you the
whole statute. I can't find the requirements for husband and wife but I will be able to shortly. I didn't
know they were coming in so...I'm going to photocopy that. Let me see if I have it in more concise
terms here. The uh, let me reseamh this right now and I'll get you the statute. But, that's the basis for
the denial. We don't have discretion. You can't have it. We had asked for the 2003 income on several
occasions for the husband and wife we would receive income from the wife. We needed 2003 income to
process the Enhanced Star exemption. They said it was going to be voted by the CPA that works for
them and he kept faxing over the 2002 and we kept saying no, we need 2003, and again he faxed us the
2002 and presumably that was because it was filed in 2002 but no longer in NY. So, we could not do
anything about it.
JAMES TALAS: Can I say something?
DANIEL MCCONLOGUE: Do you want to testify?
JAMES TALAS: Yes.
DANIEL MCCONLOGUE: I have to swear you in. Raise your right hand. Do you solemnly swear that
the testimony you're about to give in this proceeding is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the
truth.
JAMES TALAS: I do.
DANIEL MCCONLOGUE: Give your name for the record please.
JAMES TALAS: James Talas
JAMES TALAS: I want to show you some of the copies that we submitted by fax in this office and last
year before we went to Florida we came to the Assessor's Office and we said do you want to fax it for us
and they said no because we signed before we get them every year. We don't need them. We don't
need them because we get them every year from the state, so we just submitted them. We sent them
here again. That's all.
PHYLLIS ATKINSON: Can I ask Scott a question?
against the law anyway?
SCOTT RUSSELL: No, because I didn't know. See, this is a renewal application and last year's Star
exemption, Enhanced, would have been based on 2002 income. So, the 2002 income for that year
would have revealed that they were claiming in NY. I don't know when they applied for the Homestead
exemption in Florida. But, the application we got suggested that they were residents of NY. In 2004, I'm
sorry this past March 2005 based on the state law, we need 2003 income. That's what we had been
constantly requesting. This was just a process a renewal for an Enhanced Star. When we couldn't get
the 2003 income from the husband, we couldn't get anything beyond the 2002 income. We constantly
requested it and they said it was going to be forwarded. It was never forwarded. It was at that point it
became obvious to us that he might not be a resident of NY State. So, a simple call to the jurisdiction of
Florida and in fact you can go on the website and see that he is receiving Homestead exemption in
Florida which is why we he simply could produce a NY State return.
PARLE TALAS: That's not the reason. We don't pay our taxes until we come back.
SCOTT RUSSELL: You wouldn't be able to get a Homestead exemption in Florida unless you file taxes
in Florida.
JONATHAN WIGGINS: Okay I want to ask you something about this here. You submitted this
document here which is a highlighted statement of...
PARLE TALAS: We wouldn't have gotten from Florida, just here.
JONATHAN WIGGINS: This is a Florida residency.
PARLE TALAS: Yes.
JONATHAN WIGGINS: Okay great.
PARLE TALAS: I have a question, is the Star pregrem, the school program, the same as the Homestead
in Florida?
JONATHAN WIGGINS: I don't know exactly what the Homestead states but I will certainly check into it.
SCOTT RUSSELL: It's set up completely different than in NY. There's a residency requirement.
PARLE TALAS: That's exactly what they told us. I told them I have it here, the Star program, and I don't
want to lose it and they said to check and he said that well he can have it here since you have it there.
SOO'FI' RUSSELL: That might be pads of Florida. That's just not the case in NY. Once again, it's at the
discretion of the assessor. When you go to Florida and apply for the Homestead exemption, they ask
for an affidavit as to the residency of all the applicants and the assessor needs to determine whether he
is satisfied with separate domiciles been established, separate residencies been established by both
owners, separate family units established, it's at his discretion. I faxed this information to the Florida
assessor. I don't know what he's going to do with it. In NY, we don't have that discretion. You need to
be residents of a home, husband and wife are the same under the law of New York State. That's
exactly why we have the county income supervisor. There's no distinction. This might have been
settled if they brought this to our attention a few years ago or last year or this year that he was in fact a
resident of Florida, not a resident of NY. But, he signed the application as a resident of NY. It's in bold
type. All resident owners must sign and date. Present it to us so we can at least look at it.
JONATHAN WIGGINS: They have given us income tax returns from 2004 and they are dated in
Mattituck.
SCOTT RUSSELL: You don't establish residency on a U.S. tax return, you establish it on a state return.
Is the state return there for NYS?
JONATHAN WIGGINS: No.
PARLE TALAS: Do you have any?
DANIEL MCCONLOGUE: Is it your position, Mr. Russell, that even if he is a resident of Florida and she
is a resident of NY, they still aren't entitled to the exemption because they are husband and wife?
SCOTT RUSSELL: That's right.
DANIEL MCCONLOGUE: We have to see that section if we could, that's it. Have you seen that section
of the law?
JONATHAN WIGGINS: Do you have a copy of a residency return?
JAMES TALAS: The thing is that I have not seen the section of NY. I applied in Florida and we do get
an exemption.
DANIEL MCCONLOGUE: Well we understand that but you also said that you may get it in Florida.
ROBERT SCOTT: Hey Scoff?
JAMES TALAS: But the thing is that when we went to give our taxes in the office, they said no you are
already registered and we get it automatically.
PARLE TALAS: We are permanently registered, we didn't ask for it. We came here and the girl said that
you don't have to and it happened the year before
JAMES TALAS: We went to give the taxes, and we're in the computer every year.
PARLE TALAS: And this is the second year we sent it, not the first year.
SCOTT RUSSELL: I would like to get an affidavit from the gentlemen that prepared that verifying that
that was in fact filed by New York State and I got a New York State answer serve by copy because that
being the case they would net be eligible for an exemption in Florida at this point and then they need to
go Florida and ask Florida to renew the Homestead Exemption before you should even consider giving
them the exemption here.
JONATHAN WIGGINS: Okay, Mr. Russell I think we should get copies of all the documents.
SCOTT RUSSELL: I don't have any.
PARLE TALAS: I left them in the office.
JAMES TALAS: When we go the first time they said give us the first page of the federal and we get it
from NYS. We brought these papers to them and they said we don't need them, you are already
registered, you don't need them. You don't have to apply every year.
JONATHAN WIGGINS: Okay, we will have copies of them...
JAMES TALAS: We did that.
SCOTT RUSSELL: Excuse me, who's on the deed in Florida? You're both on the deed in Florida?
JAMES & PARLE TALAS: Yes.
SCOTT RUSSELL: You're both listed on the deed?
JAMES & PARLE TALAS: Yes.
SCO'I-r RUSSELL: Okay, so it's not like you have a separate ownership there, you're both listed on the
deed in Florida.
JAMES TALAS: I applied for this; they said you can have it. I said my wife is getting an exemption here
is NY.
SCOTT RUSSELL: I'll talk to the assessor from Florida, also them exemption goes back to 1997 in
Florida, they represented, he represented himself as a resident of this town since Star was enacted in
1999, every year. And any information that's submitted today, I have the right to investigate and verify
and respond accordingly.
GERRY SCHULTHEIS: When you completed this application for school tax relief, you listed both you
and your husband as owners in Mattituck.
JAMES TALAS: No, we decided to give this, they said who's residing in this house and said I am not
PHYLLIS ATKINSON: It says telephone number and name of owners and both your names are down
here in Mattituck.
PARLE TALAS: You must have signed it wrong. But, I own the house. That's why I went down to
Riverhead and you see I have the house since 1982.
JONATHAN WIGGINS: Excuse me, do you have the NYS Federal?
PARLE TALAS: Yes
JONATHAN WIGGINS: For who? The both of you?
JAMES TALAS: For the both of us. Every single year I make copies, that's the __ for five years.
PARLE TALAS: When my husband went to find out and they gave us the copy that's highlighted, they
said we have plenty of New Yorkers here that are in NY and Florida. It wasn't right from them to give it
to us and be in trouble here.
DANIEL MCCONOLGUE: What happened before is really immaterial and it's unfortunate that
PHYLLIS ATKINSON: The problem is that Florida law is not the same as New York law. So, when they
told you that NY would be the same as Florida, that's not the case.
PARLE TALAS: No, I said I was going to check and they said you can't but he can.
SCOTT RUSSELL: Okay, this is the guide issued by the office of Real Property Service: A person who
has a Star exemption but also has a Homestead exemption in the sate of Florida, may this person also
be eligible for Star? No, not as long as he or she is receiving a Florida exemption. Okay, now I need the
one that addresses husband and wife.
JONATHAN WIGGINS: How long have you been enjoying your Homestead exemption?
PARLE TALAS: We applied in 2000?
SCOTT RUSSELL: 1997 according to the document.
PARLE TALAS: We bought the house in 1997.
JAMES TALAS: We bought the house, one bedroom apartment, in 1997 and applied for the Homestead,
if I'm not mistaken, in 2/02. It was not in 1997 for the one bedroom apartment.
PARLE TALAS: It's on that paper when they gave it to us in Florida.
JONATHAN WIGGINS: We will look at everything here just in case.
DANIEL MCCONLOGUE: Here we are, married couple, the last one? No that's a divorce.
PARLE TALAS: It says divorce.
SCOTT RUSSELL: Yeah, they fighting the one that is actually addresses married couple. They bought
me the one that simply addresses the fact that you can't receive Homestead in Florida but we are going
to find the one on husband and wife. Under NY law someone who is still married can only be treated
differently as if they are legally separated and then NYS say it's up to them to prove documents proven
that they are legally separated although still married legally separated or if there is a document verifying
that one has been legally abandoned.
PARLE TALAS: 55 years of marriage, that's a long time.
DANIEL MCCONLOGUE: You may have to be legally separated to get the exemption. That doesn't
make any sense to me.
SCOTT RUSSELL: What's that?
DANIEL MCCONLOGUE: That if they are legally separated, what you're saying, they're entitled to the
exemption.
SCOTT RUSSELL: That's right. Well, it makes pe~ect sense; it makes perfect sense to me. There has
to be extenuating circumstances for married couples that when it's not working out...
DANIEL MCCONLOGUE: Yeah, but why should they penalize a married couple. Why shouldn't they be
entitled to the same thing that a separated couple gets.
SCOTT RUSSELL: Because a separated couple are on their way to being unmarried.
DANIEL MCCONLOGUE: Well they could live together.
SCOTT RUSSELL: Then there would be no need for the document because their residency would be
settled. Why should someone who has the benefit has for the has the means to own separate dwellings
be entitled to more savings than the average person who is entitled to it.
DANIEL MCCONLOGUE: I understand, I understand what you are saying.
JONATHAN WIGGINS: Would you like to say something?
JAMES TALAS: We're talking about be legally married or legally separated, we own this house in
Bayside and we have this residence here for the summertime. Still, we pay a full years real estate taxes
and school taxes. I didn't go to school in this community, my daughter didn't go to school in this
community, my grandson didn't go to this community school. Still we pay school taxes, We don't use
the services the whole year in this community. It's a wonderful community. We live in Florida, for six
months we are away from this community. Yet, we pay the full years taxes for this community. Where's
the justice?
DANIEL MCCONLOGUE: Why don't you be seated, this is going to take a long time.
PARLE TALAS: We haven't said anything new, right? Actually we did it to save money. We didn't try to
cheat the system.
PHYLLIS ATKINSON: I know.
SCOTT RUSSELL: Yeah, that's close enough.
ROBERT SCOTT: Let me see if I can find something else.
PHYLLIS ATKINSON: Scott. may I ask you a question?
SCOTT RUSSELL: Yes.
PHYLLIS ATKINSON: When you except tax returns, do they have to be signed by the preparer and the
taxpayer?
SCOTT RUSSELL: We would like them to be, but they are not always signed.
PHYLLIS ATKINSON: Okay.
SCOTT RUSSELL: But, I would gladly ask that preparer for an affidavit that that in fact was submitted to
NYS and then verify by NYS.
SCOTT RUSSELL: Okay. For a retired person, I'm just going to read the, a retired person.
PHYLLIS ATKINSON: I have a question. How long have you owned your condo in Florida?
PARLE TALAS: We bought it in '1997 and as I said before his license expired in February. He went to
renew them there; because that was the time we were there and they gave him a Floridian license. He
was born in Florida, my husband.
PHYLLIS ATKINSON: Previously he had a New York State license?
PARLE TALAS: Yeah, all the time.
PHYLLIS ATKINSON: Okay.
PARLE TALAS: So, he said all right I'm a Floridian I'll get the license. When he went to vote the next
time here, his name was not here so he said I guess I have to vote in Florida. We didn't think it would
interfere with anything.
JAMES TALAS: The reason I applied for a Florida license is that they didn't send the renewal application
for a license. I was waiting and all of a sudden I realized I would be without a driver's license. That's
the reason I applied and got the Florida license. Before that I had a NY license for a couple of years.
PHYLLIS ATKINSON: What about your car insurance though? When you apply for a license, don't you
have to show valid car insurance?
PARLE TALAS: The car is in my name for many years. I have license, registration and now since..when
did you get your license in Florida?
JAMES TALAS: Before 1997.
JONATHAN WIGGINS: You do vote here?
PARLE TALAS: I do. We are always here in November. If he feels like voting, he will vote by proxy.
PHYLLIS ATKINSON: You're husband can vote here by proxy?
JAMES TALAS: No, I vote in Florida by proxy.
PHYLLIS ATKINSON: Oh
SCOTT RUSSELL: We can't find the specific issues, but what we would like is an adjournment and time
to gather all the information and also to get a copy of NYS returns and discuss it what we should do.
JONATHAN WIGGINS: I have a copy of the NYS returns here.
ROBERT SCOTT: That's 2004.
SCOTT RUSSELL: For income purposes we need 2003 not for residency.
ROBERT SCOTT: Okay.
SCOTT RUSSELL: But I would like to also discuss the issue with the Florida assessor.
JONATHAN WIGGINS: Okay, we are going to adjourn this to a later date and we thank you very much
for coming in and we will...now do we need them back here when we are...
SCOTT RUSSELL: I imagine they would like t to be.
PARLE TALAS: However you notify us, it's your decision.
DANIEL MCCONLOGUE: Before you come would you please the petitioners any information in
development before they get here.
SCOTT RUSSELL: Absolutely.
JONATHAN WIGGINS: Make sure Mr. Russell has the...Now they just gave us the front pages, is that
enough for you?
SCOTT RUSSELL: I am going to take all of the NYS. I didn't get them.
JONATHAN WIGGINS: Before you leave, make sure Mr. Russell gets all the copies of all the documents
that you showed us today.
PARLE TALAS: I left them in the office.
JONATHAN WIGGINS: All right, do we have everything so far? Do you have all your documents?
JAMES TALAS: We have the, he's going to copy the tax return then we get that.
PHYLLIS ATKINSON: Now did you want to make a copy of the letter?
PARLE TALAS: They have it there.
PHYLLIS ATKINSON: Okay.
PARLE TALAS: So, do I take this back or go in the office and take it?
PHYLLIS ATKINSON: I can keep all of them?
PARLE TALAS: You can keep them, providing that I get the other copies.
PARLE & JAMES TALAS: Thank you so much.
Hearing #2
DANIEL MCCONLOGUE: Please raise your right hand. You do solemnly swear that the testimony you
are about to give in this proceeding will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth so help
you God.
VASILIKI THALASSINOS I do.
DANIEL MCCONLOGUE: Be seated please and state your name for the record and your address.
VASILIKI THALASSINOS: My name is Vasiliki Thalassinos. 1125 Stars Road, East Marion 11939.
GEORGE THALASSINOS: My name is George Thalassinos at 1125 Stars Road, East Marion.
DANIEL MCCONLOGUE: The assessors have been previously sworn and they are still testifying under
oath,
JONATHAN WIGGINS: You are here for what reason?
VASILIKI THALASSINOS: For the Star exemption and possibly __
JONATHAN WIGGINS: You're not receiving the Star exemption?
VASILIKI THALASSINOS: We were receiving but also we were receiving both because we were living in
Astoria, NY. We were receiving it there. When we moved here, I stopped completing the application for
them because according to the rules. Then I filed here; we were accepted here but I had no real notice
that never closed the case in the city, So, I got here and then Mr. Russell told me last time that I have it
in NYC too and I said no because I have never noticed it. I received the bill, I paid the taxes but the tax
bill is getting higher and higher the last few years and I never noticed that increase was only for the se
much percent, which they gave us as an increase and did not include the increase of the Star. So, when
he told us that, I called them and sent them a letter and they closed the case and I want to continue
here.
JONATHAN WIGGINS: Okay, I see that. It says here that the Star exemption for your property in Astoria
has been removed in effect of July 1,2005.
VASILIKI THALASSINOS: When I sent the letter.
JONATHAN WIGGINS: Right. I am not exactly sure where we're going to go with this but it would seem
to me that this would have to be done before the tax bill status date in order for you to qualify for the Star
this year. From the looks of things, you may qualify for the Star next year, but we will have to review
this.
VASILIKI THALASSINOS: See, I never knew I was receiving and if I show you their last notification, it
says very clear they cut the letters but if you don't.., tells you very clear that the case had been closed if
I don't complete an application there, so I thought that was it. I used to work for a non-profit organization
and they did that. It was a senior program and I was doing this all the time and people never received
anything and I was that I won't get anything. That's why I was so mixed up with things.
DANIEL MCCONLOGUE: Do you still own the house in Astoria?
VASILIKI THALASSINOS: Yes, we have the house in Astoria and we have a house in Mattituck.
GERRY SCHULTHEIS: So you had a Star exemption on that house, which was canceled, what was the
date?
JONATHAN WIGGINS: March 1
VASILIKI THALASSINOS: Yes, when I found out that I was in that program and they were all so
surprised when I spoke to them in the city. How come I did not continue for the city since I don't have
another application to file? I'm looking to find the last notification.
JONATHAN WIGGINS: As of right now she still has the Star in Astoria.
VASILIKI THALASSINOS: Astoria, I don't have any, they removed it.
JONATHAN WIGGINS: Yeah, but effective July 1. Effective July 1, of this year so according to this it's
going to be removed.
VASILIKI THALASSINOS: Yes, that's where my new fiscal year starts in Astoria.
JONATHAN WIGGINS: Right, that's like that all over here also.
VASILIKI THALASSINOS: Here, I'm still on.
GERRY SCHULTHEIS: So it was done in the past?
VASILIKI THALASSINOS: Yes, it's not__
SCOTT RUSSELL: When she had come in and applied for the Enhanced Star originally and we were
sending the tax bill to Astoria we told her you need to be a resident of Southold Town. She assured us
that she was relocating in Southeld in July of that year and that we informed her she needed to remove
her Star exemption from New York City. It would appear that over the past two, three fiscal cycles, she
has been receiving the exemption from both jurisdictions. The Star is clearly printed on both tax bills,
the New York City tax bill in bold print and on the Southold Town tax bill. Now, it would appear they
have been receiving the Star exemption in both jurisdictions. When we discovered that this past spring,
we sent her a denial based on that residency issue. Again, we want under the impression that she was
relocating in Southold, that what she told us where she was but the Star was completed in New York
City on that property. So, we had no choice but to deny the exemption based on residency in this town.
JONATHAN WIGGINS: Would you be willing to reinstate her for the Star for the next year?
SCO']-I' RUSSELL: For next year, we will cross that bridge when we get to it. It's the position of the
assessors that when you apply for the Star in two jurisdictions and qualify for two jurisdictions that you
misrepresented your application and that by state statute you're enjoined from qualifying for five years.
If that's an issue you're asking us to waive, we consider that but, we wouldn't consider granting a Star
for this fiscal cycle,
DANIEL MCCONLOGUE: Do you understand what the assessor just said?
VASILIKI THALASSINOS: For next year I may not have it.
DANIEL MCCONLOGUE: Waive it for five years
JONATHAN WIGGINS: They have the authority to waive it but right now you stand in jeopardy of not
having a Star exemption for five years because of you having Star in both Queens and in Mattituck.
VASILIKI THALASSINOS: But, as I told you it was not my fault. I stopped filing the application since I
moved here because I knew the law. I'm not playing that I didn't know it. I knew the law and I kept on
telling other people and I didn't complete another application for myself thinking that it didn't close it.
JONATHAN WIGGINS: Okay, thank you very much for telling me. Do we have any questions?
PHYLLIS ATKINSON: Yeah, you said the tax bill clearly stated the Star exemption on both? Do you pay
your taxes yourself or do they go to a financial institution?
VASILIKI THALASSINOS: No, I pay. I paid in the city every three months every year, four times a year,
So I was receiving it once a year, which usually comes in December. Rut, previous year I kept
receiving new bills because they increased it. We received property tax increases every six months and
I was receiving new bills and getting these bills an entire month I thought it was part of the Star
increases, I never check to see if they took it off or not because I thought they did since I've been
certified.
PHYLLIS ATKINSON: Okay, this has been going on for how long?
VASILIKI THALASSINOS: I haven't been for a year and a half or two years I think. This was on since
I've moved here. Last time I certified in the city, it was 2001 or the year 2002 and that was the last time I
got it. After that, I didn't recertify.
PHYLLIS ATKINSON: Okay, but they still gave it to you?
VASILIKI ATKINSON: They gave it to me,
PHYLLIS ATKINSON: And you didn't notice it stamped on your tax bill?
VASILIKI ATKINSON: No, not at all. I didn't notice it at all because as I told you the increases we kept
on receiving we were paying every ten months about 690 dollars. The bill became 790 then 890 and
went very high. So, I never noticed. It was only 50 dollars for every three months. The exemption in the
city was about 270; it was not much. So I did not notice. I thought it was part of that increase. As I told
you, I knew that I'm not entitled for the two places.
PHYLLIS ATKINSON: Uh huh.
JONATHAN WIGGINS: Okay, we're going to look at what the bill for New York City. From what I
understand, it will say you have the Star exemption on the bill?
VASILIKI THALASSINOS: Do you want a copy? I don't understand. Myself, I get the copy?
JONATHAN WIGGINS: The bill you get, does it say on it if you have the Star exemption?
VASlLIKI THALASSINOS: Yes, I get a copy but sometimes the way that the bills are I didn't see. It says
it there, I look carefully over what he told me and I notice that it's on but it's on back of the bill, which I
never noticed. In front, it just tells me how much you have to pay and I cut the part and I send it back.
DANIEL MCCONLOGUE: I'm not sure I understood you, the assessor correctly. You said that you
would entertain her...
SCOTT RUSSELL: We will if she sits out on the exemption this year, she can start the application
process next spring and she can start it anew.
DANIEL MCCONLOGUE: And you have the authority to waive that.
SCOTT RUSSELL: Yeah.
DANIEL MCCONLOGUE: Do you understand that you entered into a stipulation settlement with the
assessor agreeing that he'll entertain, he will waive the five years, entertain you're application next year
and you can.., if you withdraw your application this year, for you to decide.
VASILIKI THALASSINOS: Do I have to withdraw the application or you do it by yourselves?
DANIEL MCCONLOGUE: Well we decide. We try to settle at this time.
SCOTT RUSSELL: I will tell you that our offer is good even if she wants to have you here to make a
decision. We will still entertain it next year with verification that she doesn't reapply for Star in New York
City. But, you have to remember that she received the benefits, twice the benefits of most taxpayers for
a few years now.
VASILIKI THALASSINOS: Whatever you decide, whatever the law says.
DANIEL THALASSINOS: You and the assessor have to agree on the settlement. We're out of that.
And if you settle it, we'll sign off on it. But, if you want us to decide it, we will.
PHYLLIS ATKINSON: Do you want to discuss this with Mr. Russell until an agreement and we'll sign off
on it?
VASILIKI THALASSINOS: See, I've never been in this before so whatever you think I should do.
PHYLLIS ATKINSON: Or leave it in our hands, however you want to proceed.
VASILIKI THALASSINOS: As I told you I've never been in this case before. If I should discuss it with
him, I will. If you think you make a decision, I don't know what to say. I don't know what's right,
whatever you people think I should do.
JONATHAN WIGGINS: We are going to send you a letter that's going to have the date of June 1 and
which time you can come in or send us the additional documentation you're going to have to
substantiate for a reduction. You can come or your husband.
SUSAN BECKER: Okay. Thank you very much.
JONATHAN WIGGINS: Thank you.
JONATHAN WIGGINS: Okay, it's now 9:00 on May 17, 2005. This meeting of the Board of Assessment
Review is now adjourned.
Submitted by: Amanda Nunemaker