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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPB-01/21/1974-EXECSouthold Town Planning Board SOUTHOLD, L. I., N. Y. 11971 PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS John Wlokham, Chairman Henry Molsa Alfred Grebe Henry Raynoe Frank Coyle MINUTES sourHOLD TOWN'~I~NNING BOARD January 21~ 1974 An executive meeting of the Southold Town Planning Board was held at 7:30 p.m.~ Monday~ January 21, 1974~ at the To~ Clerk's Office~ Main Road, Southold, New York. There were present: Messrs: John Wickham, Chairman; Henry Moisa, Vice-Chairman; Henry Raynor; Frank S. Coyle; and Howard Terry, Building Inspector. The meeting was called to order at 7:30 by Mr. John Wickham, Chairman. Discussion was held on suggested changes to the Zoning and Subdivision regulations of the Town. By motion made by Henry Raynor~ seconded by Henry Moisa and carried it was voted to recommend the following changes in the. Zoning Ordinance to the Town Board for adoption: Establish a new residential-agrlcultural district to be known as "A~F' District to be entered after present Article III page 10029 and entitled as follows: Ar/icle IIIA Section I00~38 "AE" District zone including but not limited to Gull Islands: Plum Island, Flat Hommoks, Dumplings Islands, Robins Island, etc. and undeveloped amd unnumbered areas in Fishers Island Estates Section of Fishers Island. Be Permitted uses: 1. One-family dwellings with usual accessory buildings 2. Agriculture and usual agricultural buildings Lot size - 4 acres or larger with minimum width of 250 feet on road front 1. Cluster development permitted at 40~000 square feet per residence on 150 foot width, sideyards~ etc. Subject to bulk schedule requirements~ the balance of property put in open space as per present cluster development requirements. Planning Board ~2- January 21, 1974 Add a new section: Minimum Elevation Article III Section 100-37. Minimum elevation to build dwellings No lot in any zone district may be built upon if less than 50% of its area is below the 6 foot elevation mark using U.S.C. & Geodetic data or ordinary highwater mark as elevation O. Amend sign section 100-60-C (3) by adding new section (d): In all shopping centers or multiple occupancy business buildings (stores, offices, etc.) only one master ground sign (identification sign) shall be permitted on the premises to identify the occupancy. Bach business will be permitted a front wall sign or roof sign pursuant to Article IV Section 100-60~C-3(b) and (c). It was also recommended to amend the subdivision regulations to require developers to install "firewells" for fire protection. These firewells to be locate~ between the curb and sidewalk area where the distance to ground water is not over 20 feet, and using a minimum of eight inch casing with minimum of twenty foot screen and well head having the same threads as the fire department in that district. Distance separation to be as recommended by the Commissioners of said Fire District or by mutual agreement between Planning Board and fire officials. Mr. Wickham reported that Mr. McLendon states that it costs $5,000 per unit for community water and community sewer in a subdivision. This is the capital outlay. Henry Raynor made a formal rejection of the sketch p!an of the recreation area of Fa.irwaX Farms dated September 6, 1973 and revised January 4, 1974. The Boar~ fe~fs the sketch plan is unrealistic and no! accepta~Ze. Mr. Wickham reported that the Town A!torpey said that the Planning Board Cannot delay acceptance of the park a:n~ recreition area. It mus~t ~be: part Of the subdivision and approved basically ias is when the subdivision is approved. The Town ~ttorney'also told hi~ that the P!anning. Board ~as no right to hold as a condition of the approval of this ~ubdivision the fact that there is a case in Justice Court outstanding against these people. This amends the minutes of January 4, 1974. A letter was directed to be written to the Town Attorney requesting from him a written statement as to his decision outlining factor by factor the exact course this Board is to take on the property in question. Planning Board -3- .jnuary 21, 1974 Inlet East: Mr. Raynor was delegated to arrange a meeting with the Town Highway Committee and the Town Engineer to look at the property so that this may come to an early conclusion. The secretary was directed to notify Gary Olsen, Esq. that four copies of the drainage plan must be submitted to the Planning Board with the topography of the proposed subdivision including the engineer's computation of rainfall within the subdivision and 500' outside the perimeter. Also required is the plan for disposing of the runoff water in re Oregon View. ~ Mr. Raynor made a motions seconded by Mr. Moisa and carried that a letter to Sou/hold Town ~nvironmental Council be written requesting their recommendation on the change of zone of property of Albert W. Albertson, Jr.~ .Southold. It was suggested that the Southold Town Planning Board recommend disapproval of the request for change of zone from "A" Residential and Agricultural District to "M-l" General Multiple Residence District of certain property located at Cutchogue, New York known as Leisure Greens~ Inc. This recommendation was made in view of the fact that the Planning Board presented in the master plan the conception that there be no multiple residences between Mattituck and Southold and this was supported by 85% of the people. The following letter was read from Mr. Van Tuyl re Greenfields: January 18, 1974 Re: Greenfields at Southold We are in receipt of your letter of January 16 relative to the above~ and if you will refer to said letter we should like to make the following comments~ some of which you will find are in agreement with the recommendations stated therein and others which will constitute an alternat~sulggestion. The latter are offered for your consideration~ since we do not see the contents of that letter as being a directive but merely "recommendations" by Lawrence Tuthill. Item 1. From first glance it would appear that the elevation of the final road surface would be somewhat lower than the existing elevation and the surrounding area, but from the p~ofile it is evident that the maximum cut on any road would be one foot. Since there is probably anywhere from six inches to one foot of top-soil which must be removed before reaching a suitable base for the construction of the road surface~ we have thus shown a proposed final grade to offset this. If the whole Planning Board ~4~ January 21, 1974 elevation were raised one foot, the developer would be obligated Lo bring in large quantities of fill to bring the surface up to this elevation. In examining our proposed plan again, it doesn't appear that there would be any such creation of "drainage channels" as suggested. Item 2. Upon review, we have eliminated the basins proposed at the entrance from Tucker's Lane to Greenfields Lane. Item 3. We have eliminated two of the basins on Greenfields Lane at the entrance to the park area, but one will be required there on each side of the road to catch the water and lead it into the 18" pipe running to the recharge basin. Item 4. The 18" pipe is now shown on the plan, with the man-hole at the point of turn into the recharge basin. Item 5. Recharge basin shown to size as suggested. Item 6. The additional basins, although not indicated on the plan, do show on the profile, and have now been added to the plan. (Item 7.) This is not listed as a separate item, but with reference to your subsequent letter of January 17, the enlarged plan showing the surrounding area within 500 feet of the premises in question, reveals no ready need for an expansion of the drainage system as set forth. Our rainfall study was made taking into consideration this surrounding area, while we also feel that the developer is not necessarily obligated to provide for runoff from all that area. It is evident from the contour lines shown on this map that a large amount of runoff will seek its way to the County sump some 300 feet northerly of the premises by natural means alone, and that in other areas, such as adjacent to the Long Island Railroad, rainwater will find its own runoff areas as it has in the past. We would like to submit that we have not ~ust made a stab in the dark at what drainage facilities might be required were this tract to be developed, but have given it quite a thorough study, and it is thus that we submit the above information. Very truly yours, /s/ Roderick Van Tuyl, P.C. The Board directed thai a copy of this letter be sent to Lawrence Tuthill, P. E., town engineer, for his recommendations. In re Crown Lane Lane, the Board understands there have been some problems with the Sewer Agency approval and would appreciate hearing from them on the subject giving the status as of this date. Planning Board ~5- January 21, 1974 Mr. Wickham reported on the cluster meeting held at the County F~xecutive's Office in Riverhead on January 4~ 1974. Present at this meeting were the supervisors and Planning Boards of the five eastern towns. There was nothing conclusive at the meeting but the Supervisor informed him today that John V.N. Klein~ County Executive~ had notified him that he was prepared to support ithe position of Southold Town. Motion was made by Mr. Coyle, seconded by Mr. Raynor and carried that the meeting be adjourned. Meeting was adjourned at 10:05 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Muriel Brush, Sect's'raCy