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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPB-02/20/1974Southold Town Planning Board E3DuTHOLD, L. I., N. Y. 11971 PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS John Wlckham, Chairman Henry Mo{sa Alfred Grebe Henry Raynor Frank Coyle MINUTBS SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD February 20, 1974 A regular meeting of the Sou/hold Town Planning Board was held at 7:30 p.m.~ Wednesday: February 20, 1974~ at the Town Clerk's Office, Main Road, Southold, New York. There were present: Messrs: John Wickham, Chairman; Henry Moisa, Vice-Chairman; Henry Raynor; Alfred Grebe; Frank S. Coyle. Col. Ted Dowd subdiv~.'sion. Howard Young, P.B. and Thomas Daly, Esq. appeared and presented a copy of a sketch map for a proposed cluster subdivision of property of Col. Ted Dowd located on the easterly side of Reeve Avenue, Mattituck, New York. They will send six copies of the sketch map for the board to study. 9reg0m V!.ew. Gary Olsen, Bsq. appeared and was told that the ~lanning Board cannot act until we receive four copies of the drainage plan with computations. Greenfields. Gary Olsen, Bsq. appeared. The following letter to the ~lannin~ ~oard dated January 31, 1974 was read by Mr. Wickham. Gentlemen: On January 24, at a meeting with Judge ~artin Surer of the Town Highway Committee, Raymond Dean, Supt. of Highways, Henry Raynor of the PLanning Board the Subdivision of Greenfields ~t SOuthold was discussed and the following recommendations were made: Planning Board ~j -2- .~bruary 20, 1974 1. That the additional fill be required on all roads to bring them back to the original grade after the top soil has been removed~ as mentioned in Mr. Roderick Van Tuyl's letter of Jan. 18 (item 1) 2. That the leaching field near the intersection of Greenfields Lane and Barley Lane be eliminated and that the water from the catch basins at this location be carried in 18" ~ pipe along Greenfields Lane to the entrance of the park and playground and be carried in the same pipe as the drainage water from the catch basins at the entrance of the park and playground to the recharge basin. The recharge basin to be redesigned to hold this additional water. 3. That the entrance to the park and playground be reduced in width from 50' to 20' and the Utah shaped lot No. 12 on the east side be increased in frontage from 166' to 196' and the length of 300' be proportionally reduced. Respectfully submitted, /s/ Lawrence M. Tuthill, P.M. Mr. Wickham: Our regulations say the finished road should not be below the lot level. We have had Young & Young raise the grade on roads for the same reason. We differ with Van Tuyl. He designed this road figuring to take out that top soil and build a road on top of that. We want it designed so you take out the top soil and backfill to a grade somewhat higher than you have. His is based on taking out the top soil and putting nothing in. We will take action tonight and recommend that this be done. It is not going to be that difficult and you are going to save. .C~sola - Laurie Propertie.p. Gary Olsen, Esq. and Frank Born appeared. Mr. Wickham: We received a letter from Mr. Born about an environmental impact study. Planning Boards are allowed to require them. They are usually made by an agency qualified to do this sort of thing. They have them at the Federal and State level. Mr. Born: I went to see Mr. Villagmnd saw nothing that had to do with this. It had to do with airports and atomic plants~ etc. Mr. Wickham: The problem with this piece of property is it is so low that when we asked to have it evaluated by the Soil and Water Conserva, tion District, United States Department of Agriculture~ they came back with the thought that alot of it is extremely iow, most of it. At the present time we do not have a contour below which one may not build. We have tried to be reasonable about it. In order to meet the require~ ments of the county Board of Health it will require almost $07000 square yards of fill. We will not allow just filling around the cesspools. Mr. Born: You are adding to the requirements. Mr. Wickham: We will not allow the cesspools to be put on a hill. Mr. Born: Your attorney said it is wrong. Planning Board _~ -3~ ~Yebruary 20, 1974 Mr. Wickham: We want an environmental impact study from the proper people. To be adequately filled it will cost about $50,000. It is unreasonable. We have also submitted this to the Southold Town Conservation Advisory Council for their recommendations. As far as I know: we have not received it yet. We will be guided somewhat by them. Mr. Born: May I submit something as an alternate? This might or might not be something we could take into consideration. Nit. Born presented a new map with approximately half the property, that in the lowest lying area~ to be set aside and five lots to be created on the other half. M~r. Wickham: We are not allowed to handle more than four lots in a minor subdivision. Mr. Born: Can he retain ownership of one lot? Mr. Wickham: No, we do not allow that. I think something like this is feasible but in order to have a minor subdivision you can't have more than four lots. Mr. Born: What about going into a cluster on a msjor? They are all over 40,000 square foot lots. I want to make this monetarily feasible. Mr. Wickham: I can't tell you how much extra it costs to run a major. Mr. Born: The work is practically all done now. On a minor they will take the five cesspool system. On a major, they may not. Mr. Wickham: We never try to tell any developer whether to put in a minor or a major. That is your decision. Mr. Born: We have no intention to change anything that has to do with the natural state. Mr. Wickham: Our attorney says we may not have more than four lots in a minor subdivision. There was a time when we waived it and we got called for it. Mr. Born: I understand from rumor that you are trying to enact some- thing to make six foot elevations mandatory. We started this last September. Mr. Wickham: What counts is when it is finished. A four lot minor goss slot faster. You better talk to Villa. You could very easily get the frontage you require. Mr. Raynor: Leave it with us and we will discuss it. Mr. Wickham: We will recommend tonight if you should go for a major or a minor. I think it is only fair to point out you can get a minor through at least two months quicker. Planning Board -_~bruary 20, 1974 Mr. Olsen: I have been here seven times on this minor subdivision. I am no further ahead now than seven months ago. Mr. Born: The only land that will be used is at the same depth as Groenveld. It is a question of breaking even or losing $10,000. Mr. Wickham: If in two months the Town Board were to say six feet you have lost the whole ballgame. If any subdivision has not gotten final approval before the effective date of the zoning ordinance no matter what stage it is in if it hasn't been approved. Mr. Olsen: We are in this position where it is hanging over our head. You have asked us to give you a report which we can't get you to define. When the new rules and regulations come in, it is not fair. Mr. Moisa: These people here with this water situation are going to run into a problem because I have had problems. If you get a high tide it backs up and I am around eight feet. Mr. Born: That is a problem we have out here. Mr. Moisa: I think the people who are going to have homes there should be protected somewhat. Mr. Born: The protection is from the Board of Health. Mr. Olsen: You can't become subjective. Mr. Raynor: If you want us to consider the alternative it is going to take some time. You have submitted a sketch plan and we will have to go down and look at it. Obviously, you want to do something with it. We can't say we are going to do anything tonight without looking to see how it lays out. Mr. Wickham: We have said there are some problem lots there but not all over. We are not telling you what to do. It will be just advisory. Leisure Greens chang~ pf z~n~. Gary Olsen, Esq. appeared. Mr. Olsen: I asked the Board for another informational hearing. I would bring one of the principles along to reply to any questions and I did not get an answer to my letter. Mr. Wickham: This Board has not recommended approval of Leisure Greens. I am upset a.bout it because there are several things that have surfaced. This Board knew that there was a very small turnout for the letter of recommendation from the Cutchogue,New Suffolk Chamber of Commerce. We just learned that some of the due&-paying members who are immediately adjacent to this proposed subdivision were not notified of the meeting. Therewas less than 25% turnout. This could happen anytime but when people come to us and say they are very much upset because they are a member and this was property adjacent to them and they never received a Planning Board ~ -$- .~'ebruary 20, 1974 notice of the meeting. Mr. Olsen: You are talking about something which you don't want to go any further on. I felt if I could bring one of the principles here we could perhaps air this thing. Maybe it is just misunderstanding instead of intentional mis~statements of fact. It was only submitted in support of the application that there are some groups in town that might be in favor of it. I assume it was a regular meeting and apparently the president saw fit to write a letter. Their procedure in notifying their members I don't know. Mr. Wickham: The Planning Board has no power. The only thing we can say is that we report to the Town Board that in our opinion these developers have not acted responsi~lyi It is a vote of no confidence because of what has happened. It is not because of individuals but because of what has happened. Wilton & Clanton change of zpne. Mr. Wilton, Mrs. Wilton, Mr. and Mrs. ~la'nton and Richard Lark, Esq. appeared. Mr. Lark: You wanted time to reconsider looking at the possibility of using the Greenport plant. I brought Mr. Wilton here tonight and he has told him he can handle his KOA franchise and the village will be able to work it out. It looks like we do have sewage and water. I would respectfully request the Board to say yes or no and pass it on to the County. Mr. Wilton: I spoke to Jim Monsell this afternoon and he gave us a 90% change of hooking up. He is fairly confident that he can give us this service. Mr. Coyle: We need written confirmation. Mr. Wickham: I checked with the Town Attorney and he said the Planning Board may and should recommend in this manner. I also asked him two other things. I asked him what rights and privileges the~Planning Board enjoyed in the trailer park ordinance whick predates zoning by ten years. He said, in view of the fact that the Town Board asked you tO report on it, you should do just that. I asked him about density and he said, in general, the density is controlled by the lowest categor~ and that they would, again~ request any suggestions we might here and if you recall we thought your density was a little high and we thought you should back down a little bit. We have the green light from our attorney along each line we discussed. Mr. Raynor read the following letter from the Southold Town Conservation Advisory Council, dated February 5, 1974. Dear Sirs: The C.A.C. counsel at our meeting on Monday, February 4, reached the following conclusions concerning the K.O.A. application in Southold. Planning Board ~ ~6~ -~ebruary 20, 1974 We feel that 850-1250 people packed on 24 acres of land is much too high a density for anyone to make claims of "no pollution." If Greenport wa~er supply will not hook up: removal of this much fresh water (30:000 gals/day) could cause salt water intrusion. If Greenport sewage facilities won't hook up, the pump out system could'be a real problem. The nearest pump out station to receive this waste£is in the middle of Nassau County. The K.O.A. people talk quite f~ankly about Moore's Woods adjacent to their property and admit that it would be a valuable recreation area to their customers. It's the opinion of many people who know the woods and helped create this area, that 850~1250 people swarming over this area on a regular basis would destroy this area in a very short time. The campers would probably bring some business to the area~ but not as much as claimed. Those of us that have camped know why people camp... to save money. They won't use the restaurants or gift shops. We do think they would rent boats: fish~ and use the beaches~ but the beaches are already overcrowded. Anyone who goes to Southold Town Beach or the Sound knows what the density is already like, without an extra 850-1250 people. K.O.A. says their people would only come from March through October~ not all year round. Let's take a mean average and say that this still packs 1000 people into using local facilities for 2/3 of the year. The alternative would be to put up 24 houses on the 24 acres of land; estimating 4 to 6 people per household, that would make a total of 144 people using the local facilities on a year-round basis. I think the 24 homes deal is a better deal for the community. In my opinion~ K.O.A. would take too much out of the community's resources and give very little back in return except on a financial basis to those who run the campground. Also, I'd like to point out that there are already two trailer camps in existence ~ one in Greenport and one in Cutchogue. Maybe we need to improve them so they'll be better or prettier than they are~ but I don't think we need another one. /s/ ~rank A. Kujawski, Jr., Chairman Conservation Advisory Council Mr. Lark: By what authority can you do this? (Ask the recommendations of the Conservation Advisory Council) Mr. Wickham: We have the right to ask any agency we wish. Mr. Raynor: It is under health, safety and welfare. Mr. Wilton: I think some of the figures a~e e~roneous. 850 to 1250~ people at a time are false figures. Probably the maximum would be 800 and at other ti~es it would be considerably less. When he talks about the impact on the local economy I think he is wrong. Campers do spend money in the community. Just at about any place in town they will spend their money. They are vacation people. I think he is wrong in that point. The part about the waste: Greenport is apparently willing to accept the waste problem which I am very grateful for. Planning Board ~ -7- '~ebruary 20, 1974 Mr. Wickham: It is the feeling of the Board that municipal water and sewage will be a-must as far as our recommendation will be concerned because I think we will base it on the fact that there is a clay strata there. Mr. Wilton: On the north piece and on the western sides there is a considerable amount of sand and clay. Mr. Wickham: It is all locked in. Mr. Wilton: Having access to both the water and sewer alleviates that problem. Mr. Raynor: What is the total acreage? Mr. Wilton: 24 acres. Mr. Raynor: Mr. Wickham: Mr. Wilton: ~ir. Clanton: It gives a density of 162 units. Could you get by on that? Very marginally. We need 150 to 160 to break even. Labor and materials are going up every day. Mr. Wilton: We are in complete compliance with the New York State Health Code and it talks about the size of the sites for destination and transient and the distance and number of sanitary facilities. We have an option and it is running out. Mr. Raynor: Are you going to have collective dump stations? ~r. Wilton: We will have two dump stations on the site. Most of the vehicles are self-contained and hold their own waste and dump it eventually. Mr. Raynor: How did you arrive at the square footage? Mr. Wilton: K.O.A. derived it from the New York State Health ~epartment standards. They have a standard that says for transients it should be 1600 and 2400 for destination. We shot for the high side. We have done alot of things to make it better for the community like setting it 700 feet off the Main Road. It is costing us a fortune when you price pipe. Highland Road Corporation. Richard Lark~ Esq. appeared. Mr. Wickham: It came to my attention that he has it listed for sale. Mr. Lark: Ne told the real estate broker that if he couldn't get a preliminary plan approved~ he would sell it as is. He also wanted to know the interest in lot sales. When he talked to the'local real estate, the second part of the conversation got out of hand.- Planning Board ~ ~8- ~bruary 207 1974 Mr. Wickham: Some time ago some people were interested in acquiring a piece of land from Greiner & Pelkofsky to extend the Presbyterian Church grounds. It so happens that this pre-preliminary sketch showed that as park and playground anyway. Sometimes this board gets in touch with churches, schools, cemetery associations: etc. saying we have this before us. It occurs to me that there might be some possibility that this subdivider might put an easement on it and even convey it to the church so he wouldn't have to pay taxes on it. Mrs Lark: As I recall, there was still enough park and playground the way he laid it out. There was an overage. I will take it up with him if it becomes surplus land. There is a possibility something could be worked out. I know personally I would rather see it owned by somebody instead of park and playground. It will be grass primarily. I didn't know there was any interest. Mr. Wickham: There may not be but there was years ago. ,Stanley SledJeski minor subdivi~ipn, Mr. Lark appeared. Mr. Lark: I have submitted everything you wanted. I have the map done and I have submitted the covenant on the density. Mr, Orvi,ll,e, Terry. This is something that I didn't dream up entirely myself and it seemed such a good idea, Mr. Wickham suggested I mention it to the rest of the board. We did alot of work in the past years to keep agriculture in Southold Town. This is very good for reasons that everybody knows but we haven't really stopped to think that there is a very similar sort of industry that we are not doing anything to protect. It is the shellfish industry. The time may come that it will be of interest to other people than the baymen. I spent alot of time on research and mariculture. We have at present oysters and clams which are gradually coming back and have good promise to come back further. Their greatest fear is what happened in Great South Bay and this is the increase of pollution in the water. This is the greatest enemy of these businesses. We have seen one example in Southold Town in that Sterling Creek is now closed most of the time to shellfishing. It would be very productive if people could dig there but it is heavily utilized by boats and develop- ments beside it. It reaches a pollution level which necessitates it to be closed. In Great South Bay what few areas are left that haven't been dredged out or bulkheaded are closed because there is too much bacteria in the water. I can see the same thing happening in Southold Town creeks and it is close to happening in Mattituck Creek. The bacteria level is already too high in one area. There is an application now for a mariculture project in the middle of the creek. It is a question of how long the water would be good enough. It seems to me the time has come to zone' some of our shallow areas of creeks and bays like we do land. The logic is the same. You separate operations that are not compatible with each other. Granted this comes into a different juriS,diction of the trustees. It doesn't seem to me that there are any greater problems involved. If the Planning Board could set up an extension of the Master Plan of the ones to be developed and the ones to be kept clean. It seems Planning Board ~ ~9~ ~ebruary 20, 1974 to me that it is a good enough idea that it is worth pushing it a little bit. In Orient I have argued for a number of years that Hallock's Bay should not be dredged out so the traffic would not be increased. Mr. Wickham: When we discussed it I think I pointed out that the two major problems, as I see it, one is a physical biological problem of this breakdown of organic matter in the water in June or early July resulting in the release of methane or some type of gas which is apparently deadly to most living organisms and this is lim_{ted to these shallow creeks where the water temperature. This is a physical problem which we have had. The most severe case I have ever seen w~s in 33 or 34. The other problem is that if our populatian continues to grow and if we were to zone for shellfish and cut pollution out would we regulate the population pressures on these areas because this property belongs to the trustees of the town and the adjacent property owner may not want to restrict it. Mr. Terry: I think it could be controlled like you do agricultural and residential land. Mr. Wickham: The underwater property belongs to the trustees, therefore everybody in the town. Mr. Terry: Suppose that Long Beach Bay was zoned for shellfishing and the only way you could handle it is prevent development of the shores around it. That would be a part of the whole zoning operation to zone for non-polluting activities of one kind or another. I would presume that would be A-R. You would not have to control the water. Mr. Wickham: I am thinking about the three or four relatively small creeks lying between New Suffolk and Mattituck which are in the natural state and not dredged and they produce shellfish abundantly but the pressure on those is unbelievable. There will be fifty people in these small creeks on a certain SatUrday or Sunday. My family or myself own 50% of the circumference and the golf course is the other. One way or another there would be no problem of getting the agreement of the adjacent property owners but having done that what are you going to do with itt It would be like the sidwalks at Broadway and 42nd Street. Mr. Terry: The first thing you have to do is keep the creek in a condition that anyone can get shellfish. Mr. Coyle: I think Orville has a good idea and he should w2ite a paper and let us know exactly what he wants. I am for it.r Mr. Raynor: I think it is a good idea. Mr. Moisa: What do you think the comments of the landowners might be? Mr. Terry: I think as with all zoning there would be pressure to down~ zone. To make this effective you have to do a certain amount of upzoning and pick out areas. Planning Board ~--ebruary 207 1974 Mr. Wickham: There are some creeks in a natural state and they haven't been dredged and I would like to see something done because I think it can be assumed that the present owners don't want them dredged. It would be fairly easy at this stage in the game to tie them up. People want to tie up a boat in front of their own place but don't want to pay shore- front assessments for it which they should. If all these places or creeks that have been dredged paid shorefront assessment it would change the picture quite sharply. When they want to go crabbing and eeling they go to a natural creek and the pressure is unbelievable - ten boats on a nice evening. Mr. Raynor: I have counted 75 boats in West Creek in New Suffolk. Mr. Wickham: The people that own the adjacent property, I own five thousand feet, the North Fork Country Club owns an equal amount9 there is a creek that could be tied up. Mr. Terry: It needs a definite plan that at least people can refer to when something comes up. Mr. Raynor: The approach is probably through the Town Board. Mr. Wickham: It has got to be done through the Town Board and the Trustees. We would like to have you follow it up by sending us a memo with what ideas you have. Thank you very much for coming. August Acres. George Wetmore and Stanley Corwin, Esq. appeared. Mr. Wetmore presented a preliminary map of the above subdivision. Mr. Wetmore: We are trying to conform with the new drainage ideas. It is basically the same plan. We may dress up the pond a little bit. We are going to have to dedicate some to the town. Mr. Raynor: Did the Superintendent of Highways speak to you? Mr. Wetmore: Yes, I gave him three copies. There is some fill piled up here. Mike has a b~g pond here. Mr. Raynor: What does that cut down your park and playground area? He said he wanted the drainage basin up on the northerly. He said he had discussed it with you. Mr. Wetmore: I haven't talked to him. Mr. Raynor. He was looking for the two old road abutments and for the drainage. Planning Board ._. ~11-- JFebruary 20, 1974 Laurel Country Bs,,t~tes. ~{r. Peter Warren appeared. ~4r. Warren: In complete contradiction, they are deeding the property to Laurel Country Estates. There were about fifteen people at that meeting that went by the decision that they weren't going to fool around. This is the partial contents of the health hazard that is involved to put over 100 people there. Mr. Lark claimed that they wouldn't have any beach rights. I know your enforcement powers are limited but I know you don't like this kind of behind the back stuff because Laurel Country Estates hasn't been any bonus to the Town of Southold. The road is a mess. Stanley Sledjeski is definitely trying to go behind your back. I don't know if it is possible to get him or Emma Enterprises to send a letter to any future people involved or the Town Attorney that you are not going to allow or have him to send out a letter that he is not going to do it. Something~has to be done because he actually told the last lot owner that bought up there~ actually told him, he is going to get beach rights. This is the impression these people are under. Brian Murphy is in charge of the association. I knew this was what they were going to try to do. They have one-half of it done, the association formed. It is very close that they are going to deed this thing over to the association which will give them the beach rights. I think it is time that we find out from Emma Enterprises and Stanley Sledjeski what are they going to do about it. Mr. Wickham: What is the name of this last person? Mr. Warren: Dinizio that works for LILCO. These people have been misled and have beck to go through with that road a~d it has come to a point where they have been completely misled which is nothing new. I thought you would want to hear about it and maybe pinpoint it down and get it siraightened once and for all. Mr. Wickham: There is a limit to how much we can do and we want to know about any irregularities because when we talk to our attorney or anyone else we can't go on hearsay. We want to know if they will appear a~ a hearing or at court. Mr. Warren: Mr. Wickham: Mr. War~en: association. I will appear. What you are telling us is hearsay. You would have to bring in the first party Which is the They are going by Stanley Sledjeski, Emma Enterprises and now Milmat. If he s~ys he is going to do it let him send out registered letters to anyone involved here that they are not getting any beach rights. It has got to stop. If he hedges, you know we are right. Emma owns it because a lot was sold on the northwest parcel and that held the sign and at the time they came before the variance board which was the beginning of it and these people think it belongs to them. We had to call Southold Police last year and I think they received one of these letters. Mr. Raynor: Emma holds title with Nolte. It is a corporation that subdivided the property. Planning Board .... -12- February 20, 1974 Mr. Wickham: I think Emma still owns title to the right of way with some other people and did not convey out at the time they conveyed out their interests in the subdivision. Mr. Warren: Mr. Lark stated that it was nothing to do with the subdivision or the south side of the Boulevard and this was taken out of the sub- division. Mr. Wickham: The last I knew Emma still owned the common right of way. Mr. Raynor: This has never come into the sub,division. Mr. Wickham: This is correct. Apparently: what the property owners association is now negotiating is to buy it from Emma. Mr. Warren: This is what I have heard that they are going to deed it over to the association. Mr. Wickham: This deal is being arranged by the principles in the sub~ division. It is a very clear subterfuge and deception if it is true. Ntt. Warren: It was done to deceive the town board and if I was on the board ~I wouldn't want to feel I was made a fool of. It was brought up at the meeting that there would be only one beach right left which would go to the first lot. Further on in the minutes it is stated that there would be only one beach right kept and it should go to Lot #1. Mr. Wickham: Thank you for bring; is to our attention. We will take all the letters under,advisement. I can't offer any good solution at this moment. Mr. Warren: I hope the Town will fight it because I feel if I was in this position I would fight it. What it amounted to was taking that one piece and breaking it into 52 parts. It can happen all over where there is a subdivision. It is not right. Orient Point. Richard Cron, Esq. appeared. Mr. Cron showed a topo from Van Tuyl. Mr. Raynor: You have the drainage area outside the subdivision? Mr. Cron: It was never intended to be in the subdivision. Mr. Raynor: I don't know if the town .attorney will let us use it. Mr. Wickham: We like 1OO foot setbacks from the top of the bluff, put it on and we will know what we have. You need a letter from the Town Super- intendent of Highways. Get the contours and drainage to us before the next meeting. We need contours 50 feet outside. Planning Board ~ .13~ ~bruary 20, 1974 Michael Weinstein minor subdivision. Write letter telling him we need more specific wording that no lots will be further subdivided. On motion made by Mr. Coyle~ seconded by Mr. Raynor~ it was RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board recommend to the Southold Town Board denial of the change of zone from '~" Residential and Agricultural to '~C" Light Industrial on certain property'~of Albert W. Albertson situated at Arshamomaque~ New York. This recommendation was made based on the report of the Southold Town Conservation Advisory Council that this property is one of the few remaining, functioning wetlands in this area ~nd should be kept and maintained in this manner. Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Wickham~ Moisa: Raynor~ Grebe and Coyle. Casola minor subdivision. The Board feels that this Would work better as a minor subdivision than a major subdivision. We are awaiting a report from the Southold Town Conservation Advisory Council and the Board will do a field survey. Greenfields. On motion made by Mr. Raynor~ seconded by Mr. Moisa, it was RESOLVED that the recommendations of Lawrence M. Tuthill, P.E. in letter dated January 31, 1974 pertaining to the subdivision Greenfields at Southold be accepted. Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham~ Grebe, Raynor, Moisa~ Coyle. The following are the recommendations of Mr. Tuthill as outlined in the above-mentioned letter. 1. That the additional fill be required on,.all roads to bring them back to the original grade after the top soil has been removed, as mentioned in Mr. Roderick Van Tuyl's letter of Jan. 18 (item 1). 2. That the leaching field near the intersection of Greenfields Lane and Barley Lane be eliminated and that the water from the catch basins at this location be carried in 18" ~ pipe along Greenfields Lane to the entrance of the park and playground and be carried in the same pipe as the drainage water from the catch basins at the entrance of the park and playground to the recharge basin. The recharge basin to be redesigned to hold this additional water. Planning Board =. ~14~ --~ebruary 20, 1974 3. That the entrance to the park and playground be reduced in width from 50' to 20' and the Utah shaped lot No. 12 on the east side b~ increased in frontage from 166' to 196' and the length of 300' be proportionally reduced. On motion made by Mr. Grebe, seconded by Mr. Moisa, it was RESOLVF~D that the matter of the change of zone of Wilton and Clanton for a KOA operation be tabled until more concrete information is received on sewer and water supply. Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Grebe and Moisa Nays: Messrs. Raynor and Coyle The motion was lost. On motion made by Mr. Coyle, seconded by Mr. Raynor, it was RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board recommend to the Southold Town Board denial of the application of Richard C. Wilton and John C. Clanton for a change of zone on certain property located at Greenport~ New York, from '~'~ Residential and Agricultural to General Multiple Residence District and '~B" Light Business District. This recommendation is based on the lack at this time of a guarantee that Greenport Villagewill supply water and sewage facilities which are important because of the clay subsoil. It is also felt that the density should be limited to 162 units in compliance with "M-l" requirements. Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Wickham, Moisa, Raynor, Grebe and Coyle. The next meeting was set for March 14, 1974. On motion made by Mr. Grebe, seconded by Mr. Moisa, it was RESOLVBD that the ~minutes of January 30, 1974 regular meeting be approved. Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Wickham, Moisa, Raynor~ Grebe and Coyle. Mr. Raynor made a motion, seconded by Mr. Coyle and carried that the meeting be adjourned. Meeting was adjourned at 11:30 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Muri el--Brush,/Secretary