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SDUTHDLD, L. I., N. Y. 119'71
PLANNING BOARD
MEMBERS
John Wlokham, Chairman
Henry -~M oisa
Alfred Grebe
Henry Raynor
Frank Coyle
MI NUTBS
SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD
April 16, 1974
A regular meeting of the Southold Town Planning Board was held at
7:30 p.m., Tuesday, April 16, 19747 at the Town Clerk's Office, Main
Road, Southold, New York.
There were present: Messrs. John Wickham, Chairman; Henry Moisa,
Vice-Chairman; Henry Raynor; Alfred Grebe; Prank S. Coyle.
~leepy Hollow. Gary Olson appeared.
The following letter dated April 4, 1974 to the Planning B~a~d was
read:
The Suffolk County Planning Commission at its regular meeting, April
3, 1974, reviewed the above captioned ma-p referred to ii pursuant to
Section 1333, Suffolk County Charter. After due study and deliberation,
it did take the following action:
Be It Resolved, that the.Map of Sleepy Hollow be considered to be a
matter for local determination -since no county~ state, or federal rozds
or facilities will be directly affected and the developer is aware of the
requirements of the New York State Department of ~nvironmental Conservation
relative to the wetlands.
Lee ~. K~ppelman
Director of Planning
by /s/ Charles G. Lind
Subdivision Review Section
The~following letter to the Planning Board under date.of April 9,
1974from Raymond C. Dean was read.
The Highway Committee and myself have reviewed the-map on Sleepy
Hollow located at Southold, New York and recommend the following recommendag
tions:
Planning Board ,2~ A~ril 16, 1974
1. Recharge basin to be an the Park and Playground area or Lot #14.
2. 100' Turn around on Grissom Lane.
Lot #1 be for Park and Playground area.
4. Recharge basin to be on Lot #1 instead of in the roadway.
5. Por better drainage, grade from thesouth end of Willow Pond
Lane to go east along Sleepy Hollow Lane.
Mr. Wickham: Park and Playground should be where it was planned. It is
unfair to take the choicest lot in the subdivision.
Mr. Olsen: It is a small subdivision and recharge basins look awful with
the wire around, etc. Leo has been cutting some trees down. I told him
not to do anything until he has the map signed and the lot filed. I
didn't realize he was doing it.
Mr. Wickham: I am in agreement with you. The Highway Department determines
the drainage and the Planning Board sets the Park and Playground.
Mr. Olsen: Leo started by himself and then I got into it. He has done
everything the Board wanted him to do. I think after the Board has approved
the preliminary maps and all the ~ecessary signatures are on it~ now to
have major changes made is unfair.
Mr. Wickham: We are in a bind and we must have theappro~al of the Highway
Committee. Therefore~ the Planning Board and the Highway Superintendent
have to sit down and work this out and sometime between now and the next
meeting we will do this. It is only since the first of January 1974 that
we have to operate under the State Law which requires the hearing on a
preliminary. Ray feels that no highway should be cut in until final
approval has been granted. Our rules and regulations say that with
preliminary approval goes the permission to cut in the highways. In most
towns if /he subdivider meets the requirements there is no final hearing.
Mr. Olsen: It seems it is your procedure that there are generally a
number of follow~up meetings between the applicant and the Planning Board
as to changes that should be made. It seems that before the preliminary
meieting the Highway Department should be given the~map to makeany changes
that should be made, What happens is when it gets. down to the last stages
then all these committees start to wake up and it starts being considered.
You have control.
Mr. Wickham: No, we do not have control because-there is another technicality
because regulations say we only have 45 days after official submission and
it says nothing about approval from the'HighwaY Committee-and if we do not
act in that period it is deemed approved. We have to hold a hearing
whether we .have word from the Highway Committee-or not or even from the
County. We hold it and we say these things have to be-met. I don't see
any way out of that ;%technicalit~.
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Mr. Wickham: The State law is unrealistic. The State law says 45 days.
This is what causes the problem. We are forced into it.
Oregon View. Gary Olsen~ Esq. appeared.
Mr. Wickham read the letter from the Suffolk County Department of Planning
under date of April 5, 1974 signed by Charles G. Lind, Subdivision Review
Section.
The Suffolk County Planning Commission at its regular meeting, April
3, 1974, reviewed the above captioned map referred to it pursuant to
Section 1333, Suffolk County Charter. After due study and deliberation,
it did take the following action:
Be It Resolved, that the Map of Oregon View Estates be.approved,
since no known federal~ state~ or county development policies will be
affected by the map, provided that access to Lots 17 23~ 24 and 39 is
restricted to the proposed develppment streets and that driveway access
to those lots from the development streets be placed as far as possible
from the county road in order to protect the safety and traffic carrying
capacity of C.R. 27.
The Commission also offers the following comment for your use and
consideration:
The town should undertake a review of its storm~water drainage ~
requirements in its subdivision regulations as it is felt that they are
minimal.
Mr. Olsen: These profiles were approved by Dean on June 26, 1973.
Mr. Wickham: We want to get the approval before we have the final hearing
from the Highway Committee and Dean.
Mr. Raynor: Do you intend building those "future" roads?
Mr. Olsen: No.
Mr. Raynor: I think you are going to have to.
Mr. Wickham: The Superintendent of Highways says they have to be built.
Mr. Raynor: Wewant to make you aware-of it now that everyone has to
build them.
Creenfields. Gary Olsen, Esq. appeared.
The following letter from Ray Dean. dated April 9, 1974 was read.
The Highway Committee and myself have reviewed the map on Greenfields
at Soutbold~ New York, and recommend the following recommendations.
1o 100' turn around on Greenfields Lane
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2. 100' turn around on Barley Lane
When all recommendations are followed as proposed we will then accept
the road(~) layout.
On motion made by Mr. Raynor, seconded by Mr. Grebe, it was
RBSOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board direct Lawrence Tuthill,
P.E., to draw up a bond estimate for the subdivision called Greenfields at
Southold.
Vote of the Board:
Casola.
Ayes: Messrs. Wickham, Moisa~ Raynor, Coyle, Grebe.
Gary Olsen~ Esq. appeared.
Mr. Wickham: Have you met with the engineer?
Mr. Olsen: No, Young is going to go out with Larry and redo those test
holes. At this time I am going to submit for the record a copy of
restrictive covenants which were shown to the Town Attorney on April 10,
1974.
James Dean. Gary Olsen, Esq. appeared.
Mr. Olsen: I got a letter from the Planning Board about the property
only being divided into two parcels instead of four.
Mr. Wickham: From my knowledge of what happens from salt creeks~ every
foot of this land is subject to flooding in extreme tides.
Mr. Raynor: I have seen half of it under water.
Mr. Wickham: t have seen water so deep on Dean Drive thai you couldn't
drive a car, but you have two nice lots there that should be built upon.
Inlet Bast. Charles Cuddy, Esq. appeared.
Mr. Wic-kham read the .recommendations given at the meeting of March 14,
1974 and the Boardchecked the-map and determined there had been compliance.
It was directed that the curve on Lot #10 be moved to make the lot contain
a 150 foot frontage.
Orient-by-the-Sea, Section III
Mr. Wickham read the following letter under date-of March 14, 1974 from
Edward J. Bage, P.E.
Planning Board -5-- April 16, 1974
I met with Town Justice Louis Demarest to review the drainage of
Orient--by-the-Sea: Section III. The following recommendations were
mutually agreed upon:
1. The leaching areas on Farm Lane and Parkview Lane are to be
Type "A" recharge basins.
2. With~the installation of recharge basins, the leaching basins on
Ryder Farm Lane between Uhl Lane and Parkview Lane~ and the
basins at the entrance to Parkview Lane from Ryder Farm Lane
are not necessary.
3. Both sides of Ryder Farm Lane are to be curbed.
4. The west s~ide of Plum Island Lane is to be curbed to prevent
erosion by water coming down the road.
5. Both sides of Parkview Lane from Ryder Farm Lane and Plum Island
Lane are to be curbed.
6. Bo~h sides of Uhl Lane are to be curbed.
7. Ail other leaching basins shown on Van Tuyl's map of June 18,
1973 are to be installed.
On motion made by Mr. Moisa~ seconded by-Mr. Raynor~ it was
RESOLVED that Edward Bage, P.E., be-directed to prepare a bond
estimate for the subdivision Orient-by--the,Sea.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Wickham~ Moisa, Raynor~ Grebeand
Coyle.
Ben Kasper.
Mr. Wickham read a letter directed to himself as Chairman of the Planning
Board afrom Benjamin Kasper of Ben Kasper Real Estate, Inc. dated 4/3/74.
I have decided to view the Fairway Farms Subdivision at Cutchogue after
discussing the subdivision map I have in mind; the site to be located at
the northeast corner of Aldrich Lane and Montauk Highway in Laurel.
I am somewhat confused, as a practical matter I would like-to know what
can the problem be should anyone park or run off the hard surface or the
paved surface and find himself possibly in soft sand and gravel which
would be an impossibility to drive out of back to the hard surface since
I feel the cars would bog down unless they were four wheel drive.
I can also see the risk that could be involved for someone to drive on
the road and unbeknown to him that the shoulders of the road weremade
up of sand and gravel for the purpose intended (drainage) and he could
very easily lose control of the car should he hit a soft spot and this
can be hazardous.
I saw Alden Young and he discussed this plan with me at length. I under-
stand there is also the problem of the maintenance of this drainage swale
and this supposedly may be placed on the ,owners of the lots adjoining the
drainage area. This, of course, becomes another problem.
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What is the liability to the ,owner of that plot facing on that road or
streetand does he have to carry insurance to cover himself? Does this
portion of the road remain undedicated? Who does the snow plowing and
maintenance of the hard top portion of the road? It would appear to me
this type of a road system would be very involved and I am sure it could
mean many problems to the town in which these roads are builto
I wish to state my case in reference to the 81 acres I have in mind to
sell off as ranchettes varying in size from a minimum of 40,000 square
feet to a possibility of 200,000 square feet. The idea being that I
would want a road built through the entire parcel and then offer the
ranchettes for sale which would vary in size according to the customer's
needs. This would not necessarily be a subdivision as such. It would
be only sold and parcelled off as miniature farms or ranches, and this is
where my problem arises as to what t~pe of a road and drainage I would
need to satisfy the town.
Is it possible for me to set up an appointment to meet before you and the
board and discuss this in further detail, at your convenience?
Your early reply will be greatly appreciated.
/s/ Benjamin Kasper
Mr. Wickham: Fairway Farms set out to do this as a pilot project so the
questions you raise are good. The alternatives are very real also. The
Town Highway Committee-has said there will be-only sumps in future
developments. Frankly, I am nor sure we are happy with either one of them
at this stage in time. We feel that of the two Fairway Farms has a more
attractive setup and in the long run may prove to be the way we are going
to go. It is the only one I know of in the state or the east. There are
some problems and I am sure we will learn some more. As far as speaking
of your 81 acres because you plan to sell off parcels it becomes a sub~
division. Therefore, you will have to file for a major subdivision. You
have to make up your mind what you want to do and hOW you want to go about
it. We are rather sticky about adhering to the rules and regulations and
we will not allow development of road frontage as some towns do. It
doesn't all have to be developed at one time. It can be done in sections
at your own convenience. We have told Young and Young what we will allow
and what we won't allow.
Mr. Kasper: I have subdivided land ~ several hundred acres in Suffolk
County starting in Brookhaven and out in Southampton. I know the problems
· n subdivisions. I am trying to comply with the request of John Klein who
has advocated buying up the .farms and the building rights. Obviously, he
is trying to keep this as rural as possible. I am a farmer at heart and
I have been planting trees all day today and I am not a man of hobbies.
All I have done is work in my life. There are many others like myself who
don't want to retire. The result is I am planting 23 acres of nursery
stock. I know there are alot of other people looking for the same thing.
I am in the.real estate business and I have inquiries of two, three and
five acre plots and they are not readily available. My feeling and
philosophy has been that there are more small fishes than large fishes
and more people with $5D0 bills than $100. bills. People know the best
value they can get today is in purchasing land. I have met with many
people coming in my office and they say they want to buy a piece of land.
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It is just not buying an acre-or two, it is all the problems th'at go with
it. I felt being in other states I have seen these ranchettes do a
terrific job. It would be for a man wan~ing to retire today who would
love to buy-two acres for nursery stocks or greenhouses, strawberries, etc.
There are so many things that people want to do. I know you people
predominantly are agriculturally conscious and it would be nice to keep
it that way if we can. I would go into five acre miniature farms. I am
not interested in a subdivision, d subdivision to me doesn't make it
rural enough to give me the things I want to give the.people. I don't
want all the fancy stuff. If I can ruralify this 81 acres I am willing to
give a covenant of any kind on percentages. There will be less than 30%
one acres, the balance will be-five or ten acres. M~ only interest at this
moment is to build.a road and from that point on I will sell whatever
anyone wants. I come from Nassau County and brought alot of farmers into
Suffolk County and I know there are some youngsters still interested in
farming. They must come out this way and many today will pay four or five
thousand dollars an acre. We can still keep it rural and keep farming. If
you like to keep it rural this is one good approach to the 'problem to
give these people,a chance to buy that much land. You will find people
will put it to some use.
Mr. Wickham: The trouble is you are asking for two different things. If
you wanted to sell land in four to ten acre chunks for agriculture then
basically, there is no problem but when you mix up one 'acre lots where
agriculture is d&cidedly secondary or more remote then you are talking
about something we can't handle very well. It may interest you to know
that this Planning Board has recommended to the Town Board that we have
some areas where we could have four and five-acre zoning. What you are
suggesting is that you have part one acre and part more restrictive.
At the present time, because we do not have fou~ or five acre zoning, the
only recourse we have is to get from a developer a recordable statement
that says that at no time in the future will this land ever be resubdivided
and this goes with the land and not with the owners and precludes anyone
subdividing it at a future time. We have found if we don't, people have
the best intentions in the world but they lose their joband have to sell
it or they die and the attorney for the widow comes in and says it has to
be done. We handle the problem in only one way - a recordable instrument
covenanting t~at the land will never be resubdivided ~ with the County
Clerk. The alternative is to wait a short time and we will see if the
land that you own can be i~luded in this four or five acre zoning area.
I think it will be within the-next six months that the Town of Southold
will enact some restrictive zoning in some areas. If anyone specifically
requests it we are suggesting that some specific tracts of a unique nature
be set aside. We have been assured that this can be done. The thing that
you are saying, I am sure that most of us would say this sounds good but
legally and technically at this time we have no way of handling it without
tying it down which would be a mistake.
Mr. ~asper: I think it would do the Town of Scut-hold good to go into this
sort of thing. To bind anybody forever that this piece of property can
never be Subdivided, I don't know how you can do anything about it.
Mr. Wickham: At the p~esent 'time the .courts will grant relief in some
cases but at least we don't get the people coming back in less than three
years and saying we didn't know the gun was loaded. The court judges if
there is a hardship. As far as we are .concerned, we have been taken too
many times. We are nor going .to be there again.
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Mr. Kasper: The 'purpose of my meeting is I am not going to be bound. I
have done a good job throughout. You can check Southampton. You can
check Hampton Bays and Rolling Woods and I have given the Town more than
they have ,asked for. I have made certain I did better. I built a
reputation in that direction and I want 'to do the same here. I don't
want to bury myself. I do not want to bind myself to four and five acre
sites. I will not bind myself to four or fiveacre lots,
Mr. Wickham: You are talking to somebody who has been around that much
and longer and in the early 30's the farmers in the Hicksville area said
the sixty foot lots in Levittown were o.k. and good for the Town and the
north side of the Town at Oyster Bay with two and three acres was a
mistake. I have lived long enough to see those lots sell for very fancy
prices and Levittown and Valley Stream cause some very real problems. I
am for zoning. I happen to have a brother who lives in the Town of Oyster
Bay and is an officer in one of the villages and I kmo~ot just talking.
This Board has to think what is best for the Town of Southold and we don't
always know.
Mr. Raynor: May I suggest that if you have a definite proposal you bring
it in rather than deal with the abstract.
Mr. Kasper: I have spoken to Alden Young and I know the problems involved
in Southold. He told me what you are looking for. I think I am doing
something far better than what you have right now.
Mr. Raynor: Follow the subdivision regulations as set forth, then you
will have a subdivision.
Mr. Kasper: I want to build rancher/es. I am not subdividing. I don't
want to get into that sort of thing. I want to get into ranchettes.
Mr. Raynor: It is still a subdivision of property and that is what we
have to work with.
Mr. Kasper: The only proposal I can give you at this moment is a way to
put a '~oad through my property.
Mr. Wick_ham: We can't let you break it Upo You can't put a house on it.
You are :asking us questions I can't answer. Our understanding is that the
State Real Prope:rty Law says you cannot break it up to sell or doianything
but an occasional sale 'and our attorney has said occasional sale means not
more than one sale per year.
Mr. Kasper: It might be just that. Can I build a road? Can I build a
private road?
Mr. Wickham: You cannot build a road as a prelude to a subdivision
Mr. Kasper: I want access to the property.
Mr. Wickham: We have-to talk to our attorney be£o:re we can discuss this
any further.
Mr. Kasper: I can bring in exactly what I want to do.
Mr. Raynor: Ail we say is it must comply with the subdivision regulations
of the Town.
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Mr. Kasper: I don't think it would comply.
Mr. Wickham: You discuss it with your surveyor and make.some sort of
proposal and meanwhile we will ask some questions of our attorney.
Mr. Wickham: We have had the experience of having men of the highest
integrity but after they left this mortal scene some problems arose.
There will be a Planning Board of the Town of Southold X many years from
now and we have to be planning for what comes next. You talk to your
surveyor and come up with something.
Guimar~es minor subRivision in East Marion. Mr. Guimaraes appeared.
Mr. Wickham read letter in file to Mrs. Margaret Guimaraes dated August
24, 1971.
Mr. Wickham: How many acres are in the parcel?
Mr. Guimaraea: 11-1/2.
Mr. Wickham: We have you make a statement that we file with the County
Clerk that these covenants go with the land of not resubdividing this
property so you are binding the buyers of the land.
Mr. Guimaraes: This is what the .intention was. My mother owns the
property. It was my suggestion at the time to divide. I Suggested that
she divide the property up but it would remain in the family or we would
have to sell it. If it were to go through would it affecl the estimated
valuation of the property for taxes?
Mr. Wickham: In general, when you break ~up land into lots the taxes do
go up. I would say substantially on waterfront but that is my opinion.
I can't advise you but I think probably you would do well to divide it
anyway.
Mr. Guimaraes: After I started going into this my mother got very nervous
and when it got down to the wire she said she didn't want to do it. .It
just came up again because of financial problems.
Mr. Moisa: Your frontage i~ your problem here.
Mr'. Raynor: There ~was an amendment to the Zoning ~Ordinance which says
lot frontage has to ,be 150 feet or 135 feet at the building line.
Mr, Wickham: There is enough land there so it could be 'done.
Mr. Moisa: The most you could come up with is two lots on the Sound and
two lots in the-back of that.
Mr. Guimaraes: We didn't realize at the time thai ±he .zoh~fig was going to
change or we would have continued at that time.
Mr. Raynor: Are there homes on the 'property now?
Mr. Guimaraes: Yes, it goes back to t956.
Planning Board ~10~ April 16, 1974
Werner A~i~ Jr. change of zone request. Richard Cron, Esq. appeared.
The following letter under date.of April 10, 1974 from the Town Clerk was
read:
The'original pelition of Werner L. Adel~ Jr. requesting a change of
zone on certain property situated at Mattituck~ New York~ from
Residential and Agricultural District to "C" Light Industrial District is
in the files in the office of the Planning Board at Southold~ New York.
You are instructed to prepare an official report defining the
conditions described in the petition and determine the area so affected
with the recommendation of your Board.
/s/ Albert W. Richmond
Town Clerk
The property is described as follows:
ALL that certain plot, piece or parcel of land, situate~ lying and
being at I4attituck, Town of Southotd, County of Suffolk and State of New
York, bounded and described as follows:
BEGINNING at the corner formed by the intersection of the easterly
side of Elijah's Lane with the northerly side of Main Road (N.Y.S. Route 25);
and running thence :along the easterly side of Elijah's Lane North 25° 01'
20" West 500 feet to a point; running thence North 88° 01' 20" East 708.84
feet to lands of ~. Surer; running thence along said land of M. Surer
South 26° 19' 20" East 600.feet to the northerly side of Main Road;
running thence along the northerly side of Main Road North 85° 25' 50"
West 764~09 feet to the point or place of beginning.
Applicant requests the zone change so as to enable him to construct
on the premises a building containing principally professional offices.
The zone change would be compatible with ~hat zone area which exists on
the Main Road immediately west of and adjoining Elijah~s Lane.
Mr. Cron: The barn will be taken down.
Mr. Ray. or:
Mr. Wickham:
Mr. Raynor:
I think you will find that the property belongs to Alma Suter.
It seems to me that these angles are not accurate.
Why are you asking for "C-l" when you can go into "B"?
Mr. Cron: I felt that might be called spot zoning and this would go along
with existing use in the area.
Mr. Raynor: We were informally approached on an "M" for this.
Mr. Cron: It wouldn't trouble me if it were in the "B" but I think someone
might argue that you were creating a whole new zone. This is somewhat of
an extension of an existing zone.
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Mr. Raynor: Are you proposing a complex of buildings or a single
structure?
Mr. Cron:
Mr. Coyle:
Mr. Cron:
Mr. Cron: A single multiple story structure.
Mr. Wickham: He owns the property to the east and north as well?
Yes~ that is all he needs for what he wants to do.
What is his business?
Building.
Mr. Raynor: How did you come up with eight acres?
Mr. Cron: We ran the line back to the same depth as the Baxter piece
and to the Surer strip and tried to bring it back to the same depth. We
were not looking for eight acres, it just came out to be eight acres.
Mr. Raynor: Will the building require eight acres?
Mr. Cron: ~o, it made more sense to carry it to the other line.
Mr. Wickham: It looks to me like eight acres is more than you need for a
single professional building. It would depend on how big it was and what
is involved. I have a slight reservation about the number of professional
buildings that could be used.
Mr. Cron: There really aren't that many in the Town of Southold. I would
think that is one area you would want to go into. We don't promote anything
else in the terms of industry. It is certainly clean.
Motion was made by Mr. Coyle, seconded by Mr. Moisa and carried that the
minutes of the ~xecutive meeting of March 18, 1974 be approved.
Sound Shore Motel.
The map as presented was discussed and the board felt that they needed more
information on the map before they can approve it.
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On motion made by Mr. Coyle, seconded 'by Mr. Moisa, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board recommend to the Southold
Town Board approval of the petition requesting a change of zone on certain
property situated at Greenport, New York~ from '~" Residential and Agricultural
District to "C" Light Industrial District. This recommendation is based on
the fact that the premises are presently improved by a long existing oyster
plant. Under the previous zoning ordinance it was zoned industrial and has
existed in present condition prior to any zoning ordinance for the Town of
Southold. It was operated as an oyster plant and has been continuously used
since for storage. There will be no change in the outward appearance except
regular maintenance. The property will be used as a resins manufacturing
plant and boat basin. The Planning Board feels this is good use of this
property.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Wi ckham, Moisa, Raynor, Coyle and
Grebe.
Syloret Bstates.
The following letter was received from the Suffolk County Department of
Planning dated April 4, 1974.
The Suffolk County Planning Commission at its regular meeting, April
3~ 1974, reviewed the above captioned map referred to it pursuant to Section
1333, Suffolk County Charter. After due study and deliberation~ it did take
the following action:
Be It Resolved, that the Map of Syloret Estates be considered to be
a matter for local determination since no county: state: or federal road or
facility and no developmental policy will be directly affected and since
access to Lots 16 and 17 is restricted to Bridge Road.
The Commission offers the following comment on the map for your use
and consideration:
The town should study the effect of the development of this and other
tracts in the area relative to the drainage pattern particularly in regard
to the siting of the buildings and grading on each lot relative to the swale;
the blockage of the swale by development east of Bridge Lane; and the
necessity of the two 12" corrogated drainage pipes in Bridge Lane in the
vicinity of Lot 10.
The Following letter dated April 9,
/s/ Charles G. Lind
Subdivision Review Section
1974 was received.
The-Highway Committee and myself have reviewed the.map on Syloret
Estates located at Cutchogue, Ne~ York and recommend the following recomm~nda~
tions:
Recommend that.a recharge basin be located on either lot #10 or 11
because of the contour of the suSdivision and the makeup of Bridge Lane.
/s/ Raymond C. Dean
Superintendent of Highways
Planning Board ~13~ April 167 1974
It was recommended that Mr. Dean be asked if the recharge basin couldn't he
put in the pie-shaped piece between the road and the Long Island Lighting
Company easement.
The following letter dated A pril 14, 1974 was read.
Re: Subdivision . August Acr.e~
I have again reviewed the plans and profile of the subdivision
entitled "August Acres at Arshamomaque" revised 3/28/74 and make the follow~
ina recommendations and comments:
1. That the grades be raised to following the existing ground as
feasible to eliminate the roads from becoming drainage channels.
2. That the 18" M drainage pipe on Pleasant Place appears to be
insufficient in size as presently shown.
3. Consideration should be given to the possibility of a drainage
easement along lots 34 and 36 on the east side for an 18" M pipe and a iow
point at the deflection at Station 17~50 on August Road. This would allow
the road to be raised stations 14-00 and 17-00 and give better sight visibi,
lity at the intersection of Pleasant Place and August Lane.
Consideration should also be given to a connecting road to either
the Sage Estate property or the Pekunka property between the Sage Spur and
the deflection of August Lane at Station 17-50.
/s/ Lawrence Tuthill, P.E.
The following letter dated April 16~ 1974 was read.
I have studied the profile and plans of August Acres at
Arshamomaque and concur with the recommendations and comments of April 14~
1974 of Lawrence M. Tuthill, P.Bo
/s/ Raymond C. Dean
Superintendent of Highways
The secretary was directed to send a copy of these recommendations ~o Mr
Wetmore. ·
On motion made by Mr. Moisa, seconded by Mr. Raynor~ it was
R~SOLVBD that preliminary approval be given the map of the subdivision
Orient~by-the~Sea,
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs~ Wickham: Moisa, Raynor, Coyle, Grebe.
Motion was made by Mr. Coyle, seconded by Mr. Grebe and carried to adjourn the
~"---~~--=-~meeting' Meeting was adjourned at. 11:15 ~"~P'm~-~
x~jJohn Wickham, Chairman
Muriei'-l~ush, $~ecretary