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Southold, Y. 11971
June 23, 1976
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A regular meeting of the Southold Town Planning Board was
held at the Town Clerk's Office, Main Road, Southold, New York,
on June 21, 1976.
Present were:
John Wickham, Chairman
Henry Raynor, Vice-Chairman
Frank S. Coyle
Frederick Gordon
Alfred Grebe
Peter Campbell, The Suffolk Times
Sherley Katz, Long Island Traveler - Watchman
Shirley Bachrach, League of Women Voters
Mr. Wickham opened the meeting for a public hearing on
the map of the minor subdivision of ~obert T. Bayley at Southold,
New York.
Mr. Raynor read the Notice of Hearing and presented proofs
of publication from the Long Island Traveler - Watchman and the
Suffolk Times. Mr. Robert T. Bayley and Rudolph Bruer, Esq.,
appeared.
Mr. Wickham: We have the following copy of a letter from the
DEC.
June 1, 1976
Dear Mr. Bruer:
Since the property shown on the subject survey is all at
or higher than l0 ft. above mean sea level, no approval is
required under the Moratorium Regulation of the State Tidal
Wetlands Law.
/s/ Daniel J. Larkin
Planning Board
-2- June 21, 1976
Mr. Bruer: After I got that letter, I went down personally.
He called me the next day and that happens to be fresh water and
the requirement for fresh water is one hundred feet. There is a
survey in the file showing that the subject property is over 200
feet from Great Pond.
Mr. Wickham:
anyway.
The ten feet above sea level is not on the moratorium
Mr. Bayley: What would happen if the property was under l0 feet?
Mr. Wickham: They generally approve but if there is any building,
you have to apply for a permit for permission for each lot. The
permit procedure is very involved.
Mr. Bruer: They pointed out that with the subdivision, under the
temporary law no application is necessary to be made to them, but
after it is permanent this fall, they will have jurisdiction over
subdivisions. That is another stipulation.
Mr. Wickham: We have attended all the meetings and there will be
more. If they are assured that the Town is protecting that
interest, they will delegate that authority to us. We have had a
wetlands ordinance for five years before the State. There will
be more hearings in July.
Mr. Wickham: I have a receipt for the application fee.
Mr. Bruer: I have the original covenants and it is my understanding
that you want it when it is recorded. It is executed if the
Board wants to examine it.
Mr. Wickham read over the proposed covenants and they were changed
and initialled from "an area of not less than 40,000 square feet"
to read "an area of not less than 3 acres".
Mr. Wickham: There is a letter here to the attorney about the
proposed road. There is a question as to the property. Who owns
it? (talking about adjacent property)
Mr. Bruer: Mrs. Bayley in her own name. If you want we can have
Mr. Bayley, under oath, say as to who owns it.
Mr. Wickham: It says they are both owners of the property. They
are both owners of this and fee owners of that.
Mr. Bruer: They are under single and separate ownership. They
were bought separately.
Mr. Wickham: If they were bought separately, it is alright.
Mr. Bayley: They were bought three years apart.
Planning Board
-3- June 21, 1976
Mr. Bruer: There was one other complaint last time that had to
do with the curb cut. The Department of Public Works, who are
down by the Honor Farm in Yaphank, Mr. Edwards said he didn't
want to hear from me until such time as we were going to put it
in there. They require a bond and it is good for sixty days
and if you d~n't do it, it is forfeited. He said the only
recommendation might be that #3 and #4, the opening on to Middle
Road have one opening and that there not be two separate openings.
Mr. Wickham: Sketch plan approval was given on May 3rd. There
is a note that all facilities will be designed to meet Suffolk
County Health Department.
Mr. Raynor: I am sure the County in their review will make a
notation on lot 4 that access will have to be maintained in the
right-of-way.
Mr. Wickham: At this time, I will call for anyone that wishes
to be heard in opposition to this subdivision. Hearing none,
is there anyone that would like to speak in favor of it?
Mr. Bruer: We have discussed this on many occasions. I can
only repeat what I said already and request that the board approve
the minor subdivision as submitted.
Mr. Wickham: If there is nothing else, I will declare the
hearing closed.
Myron & Philip Finkle change of zone application. Mr. Bruer
requested that the Board make some kind of recommendation on what
they know about the premises. There was considerable discussion
regarding the fact that these people have been before the Board
of Appeals on two occasions. On the first, a request for a coffee
shop was denied. On the second, a request for a take-out deli
was denied with the recommendation from the Board of Appeals that
they apply for a change of zone.
Riverside Homes. Heritage Harbor subdivision. Mr. Wandoloski
and Michael Hills, Esq. appeared. When asked if they owned the
right-of-way, the answer was in the affirmative. The dogleg from
lot #2 was so the owner could get to the park & playground without
going on the highway. Mr. Raynor mentioned that anything more
than 1200 feet will need cross-circulation, but the right-of-way
goes nowhere.
Planning Board
-4- June 21, 1976
Marie Cassidy minor subdivision. Mr. and Mrs. Andrew Cassidy
appeared. The property on the map which says "Andrew Cassidy and
others" belongs to Andrew, his sister and two nephews. This
property has been in the name of Marie Cassidy since 1973. The
jib on the western half of the property belongs to the farm.
The Planning Board would like to go down and look at the property.
They may have to redesign the subdivision and make lot #4 bigger
to allow for the low area.
J. Parker Wickham. Mr. & Mrs. Wickham and Robert Tooker, Esq.
appeared.
This was a referral from the Board of Appeals. They are making
an attempt to divide the property with existing bungalows. It
vas suggested that the right-of-way be extinguished and exchanged
for the existing right-of-way.
Dawn Estates. Mr. and Mrs. Kaplan appeared.
There is street water and the roads are owned by the Crescent
Beach Association. The land to the east is owned by Mr. Kaplan's
wife and his brother's wife. It was bought subsequent to this
property. There are no immediate plans for the property to the
north. Mr. Wickham informed Mr. Kaplan that all the property
must be considered for a minor subdivision. There was a question
of cross-circulation as there is about 1200 feet of road here.
On motion made by Mr. Raynor, seconded by Mr. Coyle, it was
RESOLVED to hold a public hearing on the preliminary map of
property owned by Ben Mendozza known as "Quail Run Estates".
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Coyle, Grebe,
Gordon.
On motion made by Mr. Raynor, seconded by Mr. Coyle, it was
RESOLVED to hold a public hearing on the preliminary map of
property owned by Babcock & Rimmler, said date to be determined
upon receipt of the maps.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Coyle, Grebe,
Gordon.
Planning Board
-5-
June 21, 1976
The secretary was directed to again request a joint meeting
with the Town Board in regard to changing the zoning from cumulative
to non-cumulative.
Motion was made by Mr. Raynor, seconded by Mr. Grebe and
carried to approve the minutes of the meeting of May 24, 1976
as amended to include the name of Mr. Grebe as being present at
the meeting.
On motion made by Mr. Gordon, seconded by Mr. Grebe, it was
RESOLVED to approve the subdivision of property owned by Mr.
Robert T~ Bayley in Southold, subject to receipt of recommendations
from the Suffolk County Planning Commission and a copy of filed
covenants and restrictions not to further divide the property.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Coyle, Raynor, Grebe
and Gordon.
Mr. Wickham made a motion, seconded by Mr. Gordon,
RESOLVED to recommend DENIAL of the application of Myron
and Philip Finkle for a change of zone from A Residential and
Agricultural District to B-1 General Business District because
the property does not meet the minimum requirement for lot area
contained in the Bulk and Parking Schedule of the Zoning
Ordinance of the Code of the Town of Southold. In the opinion
of the Planning Board, in a plot of this size there is not
enough property for parking for any reasonable business use.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Coyle, Grebe,
Gordon.
On motion made by Mr. Raynor, seconded by Mr. Gordon, it was
RESOLVED to approve the sketch plan of the subdivision of
property known as "Heritage Harbor" owned by Riverside Homes,
subject to:
1. Notation be placed on map that the right-of-way is
reserved for possible future dedication to the Town of Southold.
2. Specifications of the Building Inspector as to
construction of the road.
3. Engineer's study on drainage.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Grebe, Coyle,
Gordon.
Planning Board
-6-
June 21, 1976
Inquiry is to be made as to the progress of the Luce&
Penny minor subdivision.
Motion was made by Mr. Raynor, seconded by Mr. Coyle
P~ESOLVED that the lot'lines as shown in red on map dated
May 21, 1976 of property of J. Parker Wickham at "Marratooka
Point" be approved. The applicant should make an effort to
extinguish the old right-of-way and establish the one presently
being used.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Coyle, Grebe,
Gordon.
It was suggested that the property owned by Wickham and
under contract to Chase near the Mattituck Airport be developed
in the cluster concept.
Peconic Knolls. The following letter to the Southold Town
Planning Board was read:
June 18, 1976
Gentlemen:
The Highway committee and I waive the curbing at Peconic
Knolls subdivision as the abundance of trees will be the
formation of the curbing through out the subdivision.
We are requesting the amount set aside in the bond for the
curbing to be released.
/s/ Raymond C. Dean
Supt. of Highways
The Planning Board is in agreement with the recommendations
of the Superintendent of Highways and Highway Committee. This
decision is to be transmitted to the Southold Town Board.
A letter was received from the Suffolk County Department of
Planning regarding the Flood Insurance Study indicating that
the material is available for inspection at their office. It
also indicated that Supervisor Martocchia was sent copies of
this study for review by town officials. The secretary was
directed to request a copy of the study from the Supervisor.
Planning Board
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June 21, 1976
The recommendations of the Suffolk County Department of Planning
were studied regarding the subdivision "Long Pond Estates".
(refer to file)
#5 - There are not streams outside the tract.
#6 - It will be necessary to comply with Town standards.
$9 - Laurel Road is a town road and not the responsibility of the
developer.
#10 - Town responsibility.
#11 - Town responsibility.
#12 - The developer should see the Town Engineer, Lawrence M.
Tuthill, about reducing the number of manholes.
#13 - Recharge basins are designed to meet town specs.
Mr. Tuthill mentioned that he wanted access to the recharge basin
from lot #46 or
Blue Horizons.
The recommendations of the Suffolk County Department of Planning
were studied regarding the subdivision "Blue Horizons". (see file)
#6 - This is not intended to be a collector street.
#11 This will not be clustered.
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On motion made by Mr. Raynor, seconded by Mr. Gordon, it was
RESOLVED to approve the sketch map of the minor subdivision
of property known as "Laurel Acres" owned by Hans Rein and The
Estate of Nicholas Piccione, said map dated April 12, 1976.
Vote of the Board:
Gordon.
Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Coyle, Grebe,
The following letter under date of June 15, 1976 to the Southold
Town Planning Board was read.
Gentlemen:
In regards to the property at Goose Creek, on North Road to
Planning Board
-8- June 21, 1976
Bayview, on map of minor subdivision, shown as lots numbered
4 and 5. If it meets with your approval my brother, G. H~ Smith
and myself who are the owners of this property, would like to use
this property as one single lot, with the following stipulations:
that we have permission to sell to the adjoining owner Mr. Howard
Brown a small portion to enlarge his property, approximately 20'
to 30' leaving a 20' or 30' right of way to the one lot, also
removing the restriction that we have to have public water.
Thanking you for your consideration in this matter, I am
/s/ Daniel T. Smith
The Planning Board is in agreement with the above proposals.
On motion made by Mr. Coyle, seconded by Mr. Gordon, it was
RESOLVED to approve the revised map of Kampgrounds of America
dated June 19, 1976 as presented with the exception that the lot
protruding into the parking lot be converted to additional parking
which will reduce the total number of sites to 73 as shown on map
and initialled.
The Planning Board would suggest that the pool and recreational
structures should be north of the administration building.
In the opinion of the Planning Board, the 600 foot depth of
the buffer zone has been reconsidered and has been found to be
inconsistent with the shape and use of the property. Therefore,
we feel 325 feet is sufficient for a buffer zone. In our opinion,
these changes should be made for Section 2.
This resolution is subject to resolving problems with the
appropriate town bodies and town attorney.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Coyle, Grebe,
Gordon.
Motion was made by Mr. Coyle, seconded by Mr. Gordon and
carried that the meeting be adjourned. Meeting was adjourned at
ll:07 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Muriel~Brush,~ Secretary
John Wickham, Chairman