HomeMy WebLinkAboutPB-09/20/1976Joltlg WlCKIrlAM, Chairman
ALFRED GREBE
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Southold, L. N.Y. 11971
MINUTES
September 20, 1976
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A regular meeting of the Southold Town Planning Board was
held at 7:30 p.m., September 20, 1976 at the Town Clerk's Office,
Main Road, Southold, New York.
Present were:
John Wickham, Chairman
Henry Raynor, Vice-Chairman
Frank S. Coyle
Frederick Gordon
Greenbriar Acres. Richard Cron, Esq. appeared.
A public hearing was held on the subdivision known as Greenbriar
Acres owned by Werner Adel, Jr. Mr. Raynor read the notice of
hearing and presented proof of publication from the Long Island
Traveler-Watchman. There was one discrepancy in the description
where the map showed N. h° 34' 10" E. and the description said
W. This was on the line going to the Main Road.
Mr. Wickham: I have in the file a copy of a letter of approval
from the Division of Public Health dated July 20th signed by
H. W. Davids as to the Department of Public Health. Under date
of May 7th there is a letter to Mr. Cron that the Planning Board
did not concur with the recommendations of the County. There is
a letter from the Superintendent of Highways saying he approves
of the road layout. This subdivision appears to meet all the
requirements although not precisely all the recommendations of
County Planning. At this time, I will open the hearing to anyone
that wishes to speak in opposition to Greenbriar Acres. Hearing
none, I will ask for anyone that wishes to be heard in favor.
Mr. Cron: I appear on behalf of Werner Adel who is the developer.
As you have already noted, we have met all the rules and require-
ments as well as all the requirements of this board. I realize
the Suffolk County Planning Commission still has to rule on this
matter but I would ask that the board offer a resolution approving
this map in final form.
Planning Board -2- Sep~ mber 20, 1976
Mr. Wickham: Does anyone else wish to be heard in support of
this subdivision? There are still many steps to be taken. The
amount of the bond must be determined. Then, the Town Board
must pass on the sufficiency of the bond and the subdivision may
not be finally approved and signed until the bond is in the hands
of the Town Clerk aud she reports to us that she has received it
and we will need an updated report from the Highway Commissioner.
If there is nothing else, I will declare the hearing closed.
Luglio - Centennial Acres. Richard Cron, Esq. appeared.
Mr. Cron presented new maps and description for Section I. A
notation can be made on the map that the turnarounds will be
extinguished when Section 2 is presented.
Mr. Gordon made a motion, seconded by Mr. Raynor and carried
that the minutes of the meeting of August 30, 1976 be approved.
Blue Dolphin - Spinthourakis.
On motion made by Mr. Raynor, seconded by Mr. Gordon, it was
RESOLVED that approval be denied the site plan of Blue
Dolphin based on density. The property is one-and-one-half acres
and there are 34 units presently which is well over the density
allowed. Outdoor courts are not adequate.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Coyle, Gordon.
Rath - Paradise by the Bay. Roger Rath and George Stankevich, Esq.
appeared.
Mr. Stankevich presented a revised preliminary showing drainage
requested by the engineer and superintendent of highways. Mr.
Stankevich requested that the bond be set.
Christine King minor subdivision. Mr. and Mrs. Concagh appeared.
A public hearing was held on the minor subdivision of property
owned by Christine King. Mr. Raynor read the notice of hearing
and presented proof of publication from the Long Island Traveler-
Watchman.
Mr. Wickham: Does anyone wish to be heard in opposition to this
subdivision? Hearing none, is there anyone that wishes to be
heard in favor of it?
Planning Board -3- Sep~ ~er 20, 1976
Ebba Concagh: I am the niece. We are planning to build on Lot
#3. Is there any objection?
Mr. Wickham: We have required that no lot on the subdivision
may be subdivided in the future. This should be on the map.
Does anyone else wish to be heard in favor? Hearing none, I
will close the hearing.
KOA - Richard Wilton appeared.
The site plan for Section 2 was discussed. There was discussion
about the road ends and a foot path being showu on the map to
Satellite Building A. The board will take it under advisement.
On the second plan, the swimming pool is shown going into the
600 foot buffer zone. The Board will check with the Town Clerk
regarding the Town Board's action on this and also the Board of
Appeals.
Estate of Piccione minor subdivision. Gerry Barringer appeared.
A public hearing was held on the minor subdivision of property
of the Estate of Nicholas Piccione and Hans Rein. Mr. Raynor
read the notice of hearing and presented proof of publication in
the Long Island Traveler-Watchman. There was a discrepancy in
the legal description and the map, apparently due to an actual
survey of the property and the description being from an old deed.
This will have to be checked into with the surveyor.
Mr. Wickham: At this time, I would ask if there is anyone that
would like to speak in opposition to the subdivision? Hearing
none, I will ask for anyone that wishes to speak in favor of it?
Hearing none, I will adjourn the hearing until such time as the
subdividers decide which may they are going to use and make the
map and the legal description agree. It agrees with the sketch
map somewhat but not with the final map. There should be a state-
ment on the map that no lot can be further subdivided.
Walsh (Fishers Island). Gordon Ahlers, P. E. appeared.
New maps have been presented. They have to include the park and
playground in Section I with some access Ova~ership of Crescent
Road and property to the west should be shown. Clarify where
rights-of-way are. Delete Lot #25 and call it park and playground.
Bayley minor subdivision. Robert Bayley and Rudolph Bruer, Esq.
appeared.
Planning Board -4- September 20, 1976
Mr. Bruer presented new maps showing changes as asked for by
Suffolk County Planning Commission. He expressed his feeling
that the new map covers all the points which were discussed at
the last meeting.
Richard A. Foster minor subdivision - Sunrise Farm.
On motion made by Mr. Coyle, seconded by Mr. Gordon, it was
RESOLVED to hold a public hearing on the map of the minor
subdivision of property of Richard A. Foster.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Coyle, Gordon
On motion made by Mr. Raynor, seconded by Mr. Gordon, it was
RESOLVED to release the southerly lot to be known as Lot #1
on the minor subdivision of property presented for John Simon
provided that covenants and restrictions are placed in the deed
that there can never be a further subdivision of the property.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Coyle, Gordon.
At the request of James I. Monsell, Supt. of Utilities of
the Greenport Village Utilities Department, Mr. Wickham will be
present at 10:30 a.m. Wednesday, September 22nd, for the hearing
at the County Center regarding the application of Mr. Rausch for
dredging in Fordham Canal.
On motion made by Mr. Gordon, seconded by Mr. Raynor, it was
RESOLVED to present the following tentative budget to the
Town Clerk for the year 1977.
Postage, stationary & printing
Advertising for legals
Telephone
Transportation, lodging & meals (F.I.member)
Car expense @.13
Assn. of Towns, NYPF and educational courses
Secretary's salary
Members' salaries
Office equipment
$ 750.00
2,000.00
400.00
1,800.00
250.00
900.00
CSEA
Town Board
500.00
Estimated revenues from subdivision and site
plan applications
1,000.00
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Coyle, Gordon
Planning Board -5- September 20, 1976
Hale & Hughes minor subdivisions. Irving L. Price, Jr. and
Phyllis Hale appeared. Also, Phillip Ofrias, Esq.
Mr. Wickham stated that he had spoken to Mrs. Hughes about her
minor subdivision and it was his understanding that she is
prepared to submit a minor subdivision in accordance with the
usual procedures. He assumed that Mrs. Hughes had discussed this
with Mrs. Hale. Mr. Price said he is representing Mrs. Hale and
had represented Mrs. Hughes in the past and he would like some
indication that the board is going to require that 50 feet be set
aside for a proposed road. Mr. Wickham said it was the normal
procedure to mark on the map "reserved for possible future
dedication to the Town of Southold". Mr. Price said he had found
only one such subdivision in Orient and that was Stillo. Mr.
Price said Hale would set aside 50 feet on the southerly part
and make a coveyance so that both of them would get 10,000 square
feet. Mr. Wickham also said that it would be required that a
notation be placed on the map that no lot can be further subdivided.
Mr. Ofrias was at the meeting representing an adjacent property
owner, Mr. Leon Marcus. He feels that the Town is establishing the
ground work for a possible future condemnation and is doing this
on a paper map which has been basically rejected by the Town by a
resolution. He wanted to know the purpose of the Town extracting
a pound of flesh if no road was going through. Mr. Wickham said
that the Town Attorney has been notified of the client's statement
and the Town Attorney has instructed the Planning Board Chairman
to proceed as normal. Mr. Ofrias said that at this point in time
the Board is putting together the entire piece they are looking
for andMr. Wickham said that the Board has required this in Orient.
Mr. Wickham said a public hearing would be held and at that time
views could be presented. Mr. Wickham said there are at least five
subdivisions in Orient east of Youngs Avenue in which the Board has
required provision for cross-circulation.
William Schriever and Barbara Schriever change of zone application.
Mr. Schriever and Charles Cuddy, Esq. appeared.
The Schrievers are looking for a change of zone from B to C on
property on Tabor Road in Orient. The Schriever Construction Co.
is a C-type operation in a B District. It was there prior to
zoning and is a non-conforming use. Mr. Schriever would like to
have a research and design office on the premises. In order to do
that, he needs a C Light Industrial District. The reason for
asking for the change for 40,000 square feet is the ordinance
requires that for a minimum. Mr. Cuddy stated that in the Code
under the non-conforming use, it can be changed to a use of the same
or higher classification. It is a C use in a B district. He feels
Mr. Schriever can do it just by doing it but would like security
in case it burns down. Mr. Raynor asked the setback on the
barn and Mr. Schriever said he had 12 feet on one side and 15 feet
on the other. The building was there before zoning. The Board
will consider the matter.
Planning Board -6- Septen~er 20, 1976
Washburn minor subdivision. William Schriever and Charles Cuddy,
Esq. appeared. Mr. Ernest Radford appeared.
Two maps have been presented. One is the property of the Estate
of Washburn showing four lots. The other combines the property
of Washburn and Radford creating seven lots. They were looking
for sketch plan approval of the seven lot subdivision. Mr.
Wickham said the Board could not approve a minor subdivision with
seven lots on it.
On motion made by Mr. Raynor, seconded by Mr. Coyle, it was
RESOLVED to approve the minor subdivision of property of
Christine King.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Coyle, Gordon.
On motion made by Mr. Raynor, seconded by Mr.
RESOLVED to grant a release on Lot #3 in the
Christine King.
Coyle, it was
subdivision of
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Coyle, Gordon.
On motion made by Mr. Gordon, seconded by Mr. Coyle, it was
RESOLVED to grant sketch plan approval of the minor subdivision
of property of Andersen in Orient. Contours should be on final map.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Coyle, Gordon.
On motion made by Mr. Raynor, seconded by Mr. Coyle, it was
RESOLVED to grant an extension of the time to act on the
subdivision of property owned by Babcock & Rimmler as requested
by Gary F. Olsen, Attorney for the developers.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Coyle, Gordon.
Heritage Harbor. Specific comments are to be requested from
Lawrence M. Tuthill, Town Engineer, as regards this subdivision.
Planning Board -7- Septe._oer 20, 1976
On motion made by Mr. Wickham, seconded by Mr. Coyle, it was
RESOLVED to disapprove site plan of change of lot lines of
property of Jonathan Stern as lots 2 and 3 will not have 150 feet
at the building line which would create two substandard lots.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Coyle, Gordon.
***
On motion made by Mr. Gordon, seconded by Mr. Raynor, it was
RESOLVED to override the disapproval of the Suffolk County
Department of Planning on the map of minor subdivision of
property of Robert T. Bayley, south side of Sonndview Avenue,
Southold, New York for the following reasons:
1. A right-of-way is provided from Lot 3 to County Road 27.
2. The map has been corrected to state that ingress and
egress to Middle Road, C.R. 27 has been restricted to the right-
of-way.
3. A notation has been placed on the map that these lots
are restricted against any further subdivision.
4. If proposed road is installed, it will be built by the
Town of Southold to Town Specifications.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Coyle, Gordon.
***
On motion made by Mr. Raynor, seconded by Mr. Coyle, it was
RESOLVED to authorize the chairman to sign the map for the
minor subdivision of property of Robert T. Bayley.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Coyle, Gordon.
***
On motion made by Mr. Coyle, seconded by Mr. Gordon, it was
RESOLVED to grant site plan approval of Section 2, Kampgrounds
of America Development Plan dated August 23, 1976 subject to the
following:
1. Road ends on the south and west be
property line.
2. A footpath be shown going from the
Satellite A.
Vote of the Board:
extended to the
30 foot roadway to
Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Coyle, Gordon.
Planning Board -8- Sep~_mber 20, 1976
On motion made by Mr. Coyle, seconded by Mr. Raynor and
carried, the meeting was adjourned at ll:O0 p.m.
/~ohn Wickham, Chairman
Respectfully submitted,
Murle~l Bru~, Secretary