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JOHN WICKHAM. Chairman
FRANK S. COYLE
HENRY E. RAYNOR, Jr.
FREDERICK E. GORDON
JAMES WALL
Southold, N.Y. 11971
TELEPHONE
765- 1938
A regular meeting of the Southold Town Planning Board was
held on Monday, November 21, 1977 at 7:30 p.m. at the Town Hall,
Main Road, Southold, New York.
Present were:
Henry E. Raynor, Jr.,
Frank S. Coyle
Frederick E. Gordon
James Wall
Vice-Chairman
Absent was:
John Wickham, Chairman, (out of town)
Allen and Kreh minor subdivisions. C. E. Allen, Peter Kreh, Jr.
and John McNulty, Esq., appeared.
The presentation of a combined major subdivision rather than
two minor subdivisions was briefly discussed. The town attorney
is to be contacted about this matter. Test holes and test wells
should be done on the property to satisfy the Board of Health.
Mr. McNulty requested some time at the next meeting.
On motion made by Mr. Gordon, seconded by Mr. Wall, it was
RESOLVED to approve the sketch map of James Dean for
property on the west side of Dean Drive, subject to the following:
1. Wetland permit from the Town of Southold.
2. Approval of the New York State Department of Environmental
Conservation.
3. Approval of the Suffolk County Department of Health for
water supply.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Raynor, Coyle, Gordon, Wall
It was also discussed that the map will havaeto have contours
shown on it and covenants and restrictions will have to be filed
in the Suffolk County Clerk's Office as to no further subdivision.
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On motion made by Mr. Gordon, seconded by Mr. Coyle, it was
RESOLVED to approve the map of the minor subdivision of
property of Stanley and Helen Sled~eski~ said map dated March 16,
1977 and amended August 30, 1977, and authorize the vice-chairman
to sign the map.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Raynor, Coyle, Gordon, Wall
On motion made by Mr. Gordon, seconded by Mr. Wall, it was
RESOLVED to approve the map of the minor subdivision of
property of Mary W. MacNish, said map amended October 13, 1977,
subject to the following:
1. Recommendations of the Suffolk County Planning Commission.
2. Notation being placed on the map that no lot shall be
further subdivided.
3. Filing of covenants and restrictions that no lot will
be further subdivided being filed in the Suffolk County Clerk's
Office.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Raynor, Coyle, Gordon, Wall
On motion made by Mr. Gordon, seconded by Mr. Wall, it was
RESOLVED to approve the sketch map of the minor subdivision
of Arlene Marvin, said map dated October l~, 1977, subject to
notation being placed on the map that the access will be from
the right-of-way to Luther's Road.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Raynor, Coyle, Gordon, Wall
It will also be necessary that covenants and restrictions be
filed as to no further subdivision and a notation be placed on
the map.
The following letter to Mr. John Wickham, Chairman, under date
of November 18, 1977 was read into the minutes. Robins Island.
Dear John:
I have just returned from a short vacation to see your
letter of November 10th.
Unfortunately the Ingoglia-Samuels deal is finished, and I
cannot really blame them for n~t going on any further. As you
know, there were 3 lis pendens that had to be removed, and this
and other local matters caused further delay.
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~ am glad to know that your Planning Board looks very
favorably upon their proposal. In the event some future buyer
comes up with the same sort of plan, I am sure this would help
your Planning Board expedite the matter.
Cordially,
/s/ John W. Mackay
On motion made by Mr. Wall, seconded by Mr. Gordon, it was
RESOLVED to grant final approval to the map of the minor
subdivision of Alice S. Sturges, said map revised August 12, 1977,
and authorize the vice-chairman to sign the map.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Raynor, Coyle, Gordon, Wall
The following letter dated November 8, 1977 from the Suffolk
County Department of Planning in regard to the Time Structures, Inc.
subdivision was read into the minutes, letter dictated 10/26/77.
Dear Mr. Wickham:
Mr. Rath and Mr. Ziems stopped by at this office yesterday,
October 25, 1977, to discuss their proposed subdivision. Their
specific concern is the 100 feet setback requirement along the
Sound and the impact that the setback will have in siting the
houses on the shore front lots.
They had with them a topo map of the bluff that was prepared
by Lockwood, Kessler & Bartlett, Inc., from 1955 aerial photographs
and three letters: (1) Lockwood, Kessler & Bartlett, Inc., dated
February 8, 1977; (2) Young and Young, dated June 27, 1977; (3)
Frederick J. Ziems, dated July 18, 1977. It is their opinion that
this material substantiates their contention that the setback
requirement should be relaxed and, therefore, this material should
be considered by the Commission. While I requested that copies of
this material be left with me for information purposes, this material
will not be considered as part of the official file of the Commission
unless your Planning Board indicates that it should be. This in in
accordance with Commission policy that no materials concerning
any subdivision will be accepted from any subdivider or their
agents for consideration by the Commission in its review unless
it is authorized for acceptance by the local referring agency.
It was pointed out to both gentlemen that if they felt that
they had valid information concerning the stability of the shore-
line along their property that they wanted the Commission to
consider that they submit it to the Town Planning Board with a
request that it forward the material to the Commission.
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You are being informed of this visit in accordance with
Commission policy that when any subdivider or his agent discusses
his subdivision with the staff and that discussion includes
materials that have not been included in any correspondence from
the local planning agency that the local planning agency be so
notified.
/s/ Charles G. Lind, Chief Planner
A copy of the above letter was sent by the Planning Department
to the applicant's attorney so he has an opportunity to present
it at a future time.
Drossos parking. The Planning Board reviewed the agreement between
Mrs. Drossos and the Long Island Lighting Company for a 100 x 200
foot parking area on property of LILCO. The agreement is to be
transmitted to the building inspector with a request to recalculate
the parking area involved to be sure it is adequate for parking
under the town regulations.
Val Stype ~ite plan. Mr. Stype appeared. The letter from the
building inspector was read. They propose a walkway from the
park district to the building. A new plot plan will be necessary
showing reservation that has been made. An application has been
made to the Board of Appeals to be heard December l, 1977.
On motion made by Mr. Gordon, seconded by Mr. Coyle, it was
RESOLVED to grant site plan approval for the property of
Val Stype based on the revised sketch of the addition and super-
imposing the walkway and incorporating it on one of the maps, all
subject to the approval of the Board of Appeals for parking.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Raynor, Coyle, Gordon, Wall
Kouros. The deed from Kouros to Horton has been presented at
the ~-~anning Board office by Edward Boyd V. The Planning Board
reviewed the deed and noted that it contained the covenants as
to no further subdivision and what could be done with the 50 foot
strip.
On motion made by Mr. Gordon, seconded by Mr. Coyle, it was
RESOLVED to hold a public hearing on the preliminary map of
the subdivision known as Southold Gardens.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Raynor, Coyle, Gordon, Wall
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On motion made by Mr. Gordon, seconded by Mr. Coyle, it was
RESOLVED to hold a public hearing on the preliminary map of
the subdivision known as Country Club Estates.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Raynor, Coyle, Gordon, Wall
On motion made by Mr. Gordon, seconded by Mr. Coyle, it was
RESOLVED to hold a public hearing on the final map of the
minor subdivision of property of Appolonia Kirchgessner.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Raynor, Coyle, Gordon, Wall
***
On motion made by Mr. Gordon, seconded by Mr. Coyle, it was
RESOLVED to hold a public hearing on the final map of the
subdivisionknownas Centennial Manor.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Raynor, Coyle, Gordon, Wall
On motion made by Mr. Gordon, seconded by Mr. Coyle, it was
RESOLVED to hold a public hearing on the final map of the
subdivision knownas Woodbine Manor.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Raynor, Coyle, Gordon, Wall
***
On motion nade by Mr. Gordon, seconded by Mr. Coyle, it was
RESOLVED to hold a public hearing on the final map of the
subdivision known as the minor subdivision of property of Lloyd
Terry.
Vote of the Board:
Ayes: Raynor, Coyle, Gordon, Wall
The public hearings are being rescheduled for Appolonia Kirchgessner,
Centennial Manor, Woodbine Manor and Lloyd Terry because of a
deficiency in the advertisement as to length of time notice was
given. These public hearings were rescheduled upon the direction
of the town attorney.
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On motion made by Mr. Coyle, seconded by Mr. Wall and carried,
the minutes of the meeting of October 19, 1977 were approved.
Frank Murphy minor subdivision. Mr. Murphy and John McNulty, Esq.
appeared. It will be necessary to have spot elevations shown on
the map. Lots must be numbered. Notation is to be placed on the
map as to no further subdivision and covenants and restrictions
must be filed in the Suffolk County Clerk's Office indicating same.
This will come in as Sections I and II.
Southold Savings Bank site plan. Richard Lark, Esq. appeared and
made a presentation on behalf of the Southold Savings Bank. It
was determined that the Planning Board has sole jurisdiction as
to parking requirements for banks. There were two plans presented.
Plan A is the present property and Plan B shows the Prince property
which the bank owns and Mrs. Prince has a life interest in. The
Prince house will be replaced with remote tellers at a future date.
The building inspector computed the drainage for a six-inch rainfall.
Mr. Lark showed a copy of a letter to the Southold Savings Bank
from Supt. of Highways Dean approving the curb cut. There is a 20
foot right-of-way to connect the bank property with property owned
by Riverhead Auto Parts and leased to the Town for parking.
George Furnam of Weidersum Associates also made a presentation.
Raymond Terry, representing the Southold Savings Bank, spoke very
briefly. Mr. Raynor indicated that the Board was very appreciative
of Mr. Terry's time and effort when the Board made its field study.
On motion made by Mr. Coyle, seconded by Mr. Wall, it was
RESOLVED to grant ~plan approval to the plans submitted
by the Southold Savings Bank with the following provisions.
1. Lighting schedule to be presented including the type of
bulb to be used and wattage.
2. Specific lighting drawings on the north entrance over
ramp area.
3. As-built plans.
Drainage to be provided for a six-inch rainfall.
5. Planting schedule to include list of plantings, type of
ground cover and what is below the planting area
6. Solid slabs be provided as opposed to perforated drainage
domes for the drainage.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Raynor, ~ordon, Coyle, Wall
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Motion was made by Mr. Coyle, seconded by Mr. Wall and
carried that the meeting be adjourned. Meeting was adjourned
at 10:20 p.m.
Respectfully submitted