HomeMy WebLinkAbout1000-76.-2-37.1APPEALS BOARD MEMBERS
Gerard P. Goehringer, Chairman
Charles Grigonis, Jr.
Serge Doyen, Jr.
Joseph H. Sawicki
James Dinizio, Jr.
Telephone (516) 765-1809
BOARD OF APPEALS
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
SCOTF L. HARRIS
Supervisor
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 1179
Southold, New York 11971
Fax (516) 765-1823
Telephone (516) 765-1800
TO:
FROM:
DATE:
RE:
Supervisor Harris and Town Board
Zoning Board of AppealS'
July 2, 1990
For Your Information - Variance of Charles and Edna Hart
For your information we are enclosing a copy of the Application
for a Variance requesting permission to subdivide this parcel
with insufficient area. Relief was Granted in 1979 for the
subdivision, but the applicant was Denied Without Prejudice for
permission to construct a dwelling with insufficient rear yard
setback.
We have had correspondence with an attorney representing the
applicants regarding this application on whether the relief
granted runs with the land. At this time we have enclosed a
letter to the attorney stating that the variance does run with
the land and the applicants next step would be to follow through
with the conditions set forth.
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APPEALS BOARD MEMBERS
Gerard P. Goehringer, Chairman
Charles Grigonis, Jr.
Serge Doyen, Jr.
Joseph H. Sawicki
James Dinizio, Jr.
Telephone (516) 765-1809
BOARD OF APPEALS
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
ScoTr L. HARRIS
Supervisor
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 1179
Southold, New York 11971
Fax (516) 765-1823
Telephone (516) 765-1800
July 2, 1990
Michael J. Hall, Esq.
1050 Youngs Avenue
Southold, NY 11974
Re: Variance Appt. No. 2614 - Charles and Edna Hart
Dear Mr. Hall,
We are in receipt of your letter of May 29, 1990,
requesting an opinion affirming the 1979 decision regarding the
above captioned appeal.
It is the opinion of this Board that the variance granted
conditionally for a subdivision of the parcels run with the
land, subject to the following conditions:
(1) Southold Town Planning Board approval,
(2) Suffolk County Planning Commission approval.
If we can be any further assistance to you, please call
this office at 765-1809.
Very truly your~__~
Gerard p. Goehri~ner /
Chairman ~
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Town Board
Town Attorney's Office
May 29, 1990
Board of Zoning and Appeals
Town of Southold
Town Hall
Southold, New York 11971
Estate of CHARLES HART
Dear Members of the Board:
On February 15, 1990, I sent the enclosed letter to the
Southold Town Tax Assessor. After numerous conversations with the
Town Attorneys, I have been asked to request an opinion decision
from the Board of Zoning and Appeals.
Mr. and Mrs. Charles Hart obtained a variance to
subdivide under appeal number 2614 (copy enclosed). Due to serious
physical illness of both Mr. and Mrs. Hart, no further steps were
taken after the variance was granted. After the death of Mrs. Hart
in 1985 and Mr. Hart in October, 1989, it was discovered by the
. Hart's two children that the County had "merged" the Harts parcels,
which were the subject of this variance. It was always Mr. and
Mrs. Hart's belief that after their variance was granted the. two
parcels existed as two separate lots and it was their intention
that these two lots (one of which is improved) would be t~e ~ole
source of their childrens' inheritance.
An extreme hardship on the Harts children and
grandchildren will be imposed unless the Board of Zoning and
Appeals issues an opinion that the 1979 variance is still valid,
in that the value of the parcels without the variance, could be
twenty to forty percent diminished.
Legally, it is settled law that a variance, once granted,
runs with the land [Clearview Gardens Pool Club, Inc. v Foley, 19
AD2d 905, 244 NYS2d 969 (1963, 2d Dept) affd 14 NY2d 809, 251 NYS2d
38, 200 NE2d 217].
Board of Zoning and Appeals
May 29, 1990
Page Two
Based on the facts and hardship, please be so kind as to
issue an opinion decision affirming the 1979 variance.
Sincerely,
Michael J. Hall
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February 15, 1990
Southold Town Tax Assessors
Town Hall
Southold, NY, 11971
Re:
Property owned by Charles and Edna Hart
Smith Street
Southold, NY
Present SCTM 1000-76-02-37.1
Formerly SCTM 1000-76-02-36
and SCTM 1000-76-02-37
-Gentlemen:
Please be advised that I represent Linda Burke and Phillip Hart,
the only two children and sole heirs of Edna Hart, who died a
resident of Southold Town on June 15, 1985 and Charles Hart, who
died a resident of Southold Town on october 22, 1989. Mr. and Mrs.
Hart (or their own trust)were the owners of the above-referenced
property at the time of their death.
The subject property originally consisted of several small parcels
from the "Map of Goose Neck" Subdivision, created in 1948. In
1979, the }{arts obtained a variance from the Southold Town Zoning
Board of Appeals approving two separate building parcels, one of
which already contained the Harts' home and tile other kept vacant
to be bequeathed to their children upon their death. During the
entire time both before and after the variance was granted, both
parcels were held in identical ownership: "Charles Ha~t and Edna
}{art, his wife."
In 1985_, Mr. and Mrs. Hart, who were following the advice of a
professional financial and estate planner, deeded both parcels to
Trusts of which they were the primary trustees and Linda Burke and
Phillip Hart were the recipients upon their death.
Apparently, as a result of this deed transfer, either your office
or the Suffolk County Tax Office merged the two parcels in
approximately 1986, even though both parcels were held in common
ownership for many years prior to this transfer.
It is settled Zoning law in New York that a variance, once granted,
'~'uns with the land, and I believe that the merger of these two
i~arcels in 1986 was an error. There was only a change in equitable
ownership of both parcels.
Inasmuch as this error was not discovered until both Mr. and Mrs.
Hart were dead, and since the continuation of this error would
cause serious hardship to the Harts' only children, I hereby
request that the two parcels be restored to their original separate
tax lots immediately.
Sincerely,
Mi~_~l J. Hall
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encs .
CC Southold Town Attorney
Hon. Scott Harris, Town Supervisor
TO%VN OF $OUTIIOLD, NEW YORK
ACTION OF TIlE ZONIi~f~ BOARD OF APPEALS
Appeal No. 2614 Dated September 24,
ACTION OF TItE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS OF THE TOWN OF SOUTIIOLD
To Charles & Edna Hart
Smith Drive
Southold, NY 11971
10/11/79
1979
Appellant
at a meeting of the Zoning Board of Appeals on October 11,
was considered and the action indicated below was taken on your
( ) Bequest for variance due to lack of access to property
( ) Bequest for a special exception under the Zoning Ordinance
~X) Request for a variance to the Zoning Ordinance
( )
1979,
the appeal
1. ~kf~l~[~X:g:.~[k'DflX~[ By resolution of the Board it was determined that a special exception ( ) be
~anted ( ) be de,ed pursuant ~ Article .................... Section .................... Subsection ....................paragraph
.................... of the Zoning Ordnance and the decision of the Building I~pector ( ) be reversed ( ) be
co~irmed b~ause 7:30 P.M. (D.S.T.) Upon application of Charles and
Edna Hart, Smith Drive, Southold, New York, for a Variance to the
Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section 100-31 for permission to
subdivide with insufficient area, and for permission to construct
dwelling with insufficient rearyard setback. Location of property:
Smith's Drive North, Southold, New York; bounded north by Smith
Drive, south by Smith Drive South, east by Smith Drive South, west
by Carway and Hoffman.
(SEE REVERSE)'.
2. VARIANCE. By resolution of the Board it was determined that
(a) Strict application of the Ordinance (would) (~vould not) produce practical
hardship because
(SEE REVERSE)
difficulties or unnecessary
(b) The hardship created (is) (is not) unique and (would) (would not) be shared by all properties
alike in the immediate vicinity of this property and in the same use district because
(.SEE REVERSE)
(c) The variance- (does) (does not) observe the spirit of the Ordinance and (would)
change the character of the district because
(,vould not)
(SEE REVERSE)
and therefore, it was further determined that the requested variance ( ) be granted (
that the previous decisions of the Building Inspector ( ) be confirmed ( ) be reversed,
APPROVED
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BOARD OF APPEALS
) be denied and
After investigation and inspection, the Board finds that the
applicants are requesting a subdivision of merged four lots into
two parcels thereby leaving an insufficient area for each lot,
and requesting a rearyard setback as a result of the proposed
house location on parcels 1000-076-2-6 & 7. However, the Board
notices that a frontyard variance will also be required and was
not included in the Building Inspector's Disapproval nor in the
variance application as submitted. Th~ Board agrees with the
reasoning of the applicants as submitted in their application for
a subdivision, but does not agree with the setback as requested
inasmuch as another variance will be required.
The Board finds that strict application of the Ordinance
would produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship;
the hardship created is unique and would not be shared by all
properties alike in the immediate vicinity of the property and
in the same use district; and the variance for the subdivision
as requested will not change the character of the neighborhood
and will observe the spirit of the Ordinance.
On motion made by Mr. Douglass, seconded by Mr. Grigonis,
was
it
RESOLVED, that CHARLES AND EDNA I{ART, Smith Drive, Southold,
New York 11971, be GRANTED a Variance to the Zoning Ordinance,
Article III, Section 100-31 for permission to subdivide with
insufficient area, but that the Variance requested for permission
to construct dwelling with insufficient rearyard setback be
DENIED WITHOUT PREJUDICE. The Variance for a subdivision of
~e parcels as requested-is subject to the following CONDITIONS:
(1) Southold Town Planning'Board approval,
(?) Suffolk County P]ann}ng Commission approval.
Location of property: Smith's Drive North, Southold, New
· York; bounded north by Smith Drive, south and east by Smith
Drive South, west by Carway ~ Hoffman.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Douglass, Grigon~s,
Tuthill and Doyen.
VALERIE SCOPAZ
TO~%~ PLANNER
MEMORANDUM
TO: Matthew G. Kiernan, Assistant Town Atl
FROM: Valerie Scopaz, Town Planner ~S
DATE: March 12, 1990
RE: Property of the late Charles and Edna Hart:
Your memorandum of. March 5, 1990
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 1179
Southold, New York 11971
TELEPHONE
(516) 765-1938
In reviewing the facts of the case, namely Michael Halls's
letter to the Tax Assessor's office, the Zoning Board's decision
of October 1979, and the Planning Board's files, it is evident
that the Harts failed to comply with the Zoning Board's
condition of approval.
The Zoning Board's decision clearly states two conditions
of approval: one condition was that Planning Board approval for
the subdivision be obtained. There is no record in the Planning
Board's files of such an application being made or granted.
Presumably the heirs of the Harts could come in now and
make application to the Planning Board for a two-lot
subidivision (or a set-off if the Planning Board so ~etermines),
provided the Town has no problem with recognizing the validity
of the variance. The validity of the variance is not at all
clear.
It is important that you and Harvey and the Town Board
clarify whether the 1979 variance can be recognized under the
1989 Zoning Code amendments. One of the issues that had come up
last year was whether a variance that had never been acted on or
that had conditions that had never been met could be considered
.valid. Victor, Jay 'Schondebare and I researched this question
carefully. It was decided that this question needed to be
answered by the Town Board because the Town Board had made it
clear that it did not want any grandfathering to take place when
the 1989 amendments were adopted. However, it failed to specify
how the Building Department and the Planning Board were to
regard those variances that had not been either fufilled or
enacted by the 1989 enactment date of the amendments.
Sis question also existed where site plans were
concerned. However, in May of 1989, the Town Board cleared that
question up by placing a three year limitation on site plan
approvals granted prior to May of 1989.
Accordingly, I think the Town Board should address this
matter. My suggestion is that this general q~/estion (not the
specifics of this case) be brought to the attention of the
Planning and Zoning Committee for discussion' and decision on
whether to make a recommendation to the Legislative Committee.
cc:
Planning Board
Zoning Board
Victor Lessard
Tom Wickham, Chairman,
Planning and Zoning Committee
Harvey A. Arnoff
Town Attorney
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Matthew G. Kiernan
Assistant Town Attorney
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OFFICE OF T~E TOWN A~O~EY
TOWN OF SO.HOLD
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 1179
Southold, New York 11971
TELEPHONE
(516) 765-1939
FAX biO.
(516) 765-1823
DATE: March 5, 1990
TO: Valerie Scopaz
FROM: Matthew G. Kiernan
RE: Property Owned by Charles and Edna Hart
Enclosed please find a letter from Michael J. Hall, Esq.,
dated February 15, 1990 regarding property owned by Charles and Edna
Hart in Southold. Also enclosed please find the minutes of the Southold
Town Board of Appeals of October 11, 1979 in which the Hart's were
granted a variance. After you have had an opportunity to review the
enclosed documents and to determine the status of the parcel(s), please
see me so we can discuss possible resolutions of this situation.
February 15, 1990
Southold Town Tax Assessors
Town Hall
Southold, NY, 11971-
Re:
Property owned by Charles and Edna Hart
Smith Street
Southold, NY
Present SCTM 1000-76-02-37.1
Formerly SCTM 1000-76-02-36
and SCTM 1000-76-02-37
Gentlemen:
Please be advised that I represent Linda Burke and Phillip Hart,
the only two children and sole heirs of Edna Hart, who died a
resident of Southold Town on June 15, 1985 and Charles Hart, who
died a resident of Southol~ Town on October 22, 1989. Mr. and Mrs.
Hart (or their own trust)were the owners of the above-referenced
property at the time of their death.
The subject property originally consisted of several small parcels
from the "Map of Goose Neck" Subdivision, created in 1948. In
1979, the Harts obtained a variance from the Southold Town Zoning
Board of Appeals approving two separate building parcels, one of
which already contained the Harts' home and tile other kept vacant
to be bequeathed to their children upon their death. During the
entire time both before and after the variance was g~anted, both
parcels were held in identical ownership: "Charles Hart and Edna
Hart, his wife."
In 1985_, Mr. and Mrs. Hart, who were following the advice of a
professional financial and estate planner, deeded both'parcels to
Trusts of which they were the primary trustees and Linda Burke and
Phillip Hart were the recipients upon their death.
Apparently, as a result of this deed transfer, either your office
or the Suffolk County Tax Office merged the two parcels in
approximately 1986, even though both parcels were held in common
ownership for many years prior to this'transfer.
It is settled Zoning law in New York that ~-~iance, once granted,
runs with the land, and I believe that the merger of these two
parcels in 1986 was an error. There was only a change in equitable
ownership of both parcels.
Inasmuch as this error was not discovered until both Mr. and Mrs.
Hart were dead, and since the continuation of this error would
cause serious hardship to the Harts' only children, I hereby
request that the two parcels be restored to their original separate
tax lots immediately.
S~Tely'
Mifhael J. Hall
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enos.
CC Southold Town Attorney/
Hon. Scott Harris, Town Supervisor
SOUTHOLD, L. I., N.Y. 119'71
TELEPHONE {516) 765-180
SERGE DOYEN. JR.
TERRY TUTRILL
ROBERTJ. DOUGLASS t Acting Chairman
MINUTES
SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD OF APPEALS
OCTOBER 11, 1979
- A regular meeting of the Southold Town Board of Appeals was held
on October 11, 1979 at 7:30 P.M. (D.S.T.) at the Town Hall, Main Road,
Southold, New York 11971.
There were present: Messrs. Robert J. Douglass, Acting Chairman,
Charles Grigonis, Jr., Terry .R. Tuthill, Jr. and Serge Doyen, Jr.
PUBLIC HEARING. Appeal No. 2614. Upon application of Charles
and Edna Hart, Smith Drive, Southold, New York, for a Variance to the
Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section 100-31 for permission to sub-
divide with insufficient area, and for peumission to construct
dwelling with insufficient area, and for permission to construct
dwelling with insufficient rearyard setback. Location of property:
Smith's Drive North, Southold, New York; bounded north b~ Smith
Drive, south by Smith Drive South, east by Smith Drive South, west
by Carway & Hoffman.
-The Acting Chairman opened the hearing at 7:39 P.M. by reading
the application for a Variance, reading legal notice of hearing and
affidavits attesting to its publication in the local and official
newspapers, Notice of Disapproval from the Building Inspector,
and letter from the Town Clerk that notification to adjoining prop-
erty Owners was made to Robert Hoffman and John J. Carway; fee
paid $15.00.
MR. DOUGLASS: We have a copy of the survey and a section of
the County Tax Map showing the property.
~ cng It happens.~..to.--be on a
half-circle where the North Drive and South Driv~'~Oin. Is
'-there anybody in the audience wishing to speak for~th~" application?
(THERE WAS NO RESPONSE.) .... ~
MR. DOUGLASS: Is there anybody in the audience wishing to
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"sp~k against this application?
-. M~--DOUGLASS: Then I'll say a couple of words. In inspecting this
property, why what it was, when it was originally set up, it was four
little lots that before zoning they could have built on, but today they
can't. And what they have now is they have a house on one of the lots
and a garage on the other and they propose to divide off that and build
a house on the remaining piece, which would be a part rectangle and
part quarter-circle. Looking on the survey they show that they are
asking 35-foot setback here, and it would appear that they are asking
35 there. We see where they are asking for the rearyard setback, but
the frontyard is short.
MR HART: There is'.a 35-foot setback on that particular block.
MR. DOUGLASS: Are you the applicants?
MR. HART: Yes.
MR. DOUGLASS: I asked if there was anybody that wanted to say
anything.
MRS. HART: We thought our neighbors.
MR. DOUGLASS: Now, on here, would you please step up here?
On your drawing you have 35-foot here.
MR. HART: That's the rearyard.
MR. DOUGLASS: But you only have
frontyard.
35 feet out here and this is
MR. HART: That an existing setback.
MR. DOUGLASS: But you have to have a variance on it because the
setback under the zoning code now is 50 feet.
MR. HART: Well, according to the Building Inspector we had to
conform with the existing houses in that block, and that's what we
did.
MR. DOUGLASS: Yes, but you have to ask for it.
MR. HART: We did. That's what we are doing now.
MR. DOUGLASS: No, you're asking for rearyard.
MR. HART: Well, this we left up to the Building Inspector to-
We felt there was no variance required for the setback in the frontyard
because according to him we had to meet the existing setback.
MR. DOUGLASS: That's what would be granted but it should have
been applied for in here.
MRS. HART: He should have told us that when we went in. We spent
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three hours here one day, a couple of weeks ago, and he sketched that
in for us. I{e sketched that house in there.
MR. DOUGLASS: You see, you're in a situation here on a curve
straight and then a curve- You actually have two frontyards. This '
one here on the curve part here you are perfectly all right. Now,
on this you only have 35 feet, so this application should ask for it.
MRS. HART: We didn't know that.
MR.
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MR.
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You have
GRIGONIS: Did the building inspector deny it on that?
DOUGLASS: He put insufficient area. Not on excepted list
subdivisions...insufficient rearyard, is all he put.
GRIGONIS: He probably assumed it as frontyard.
HART: How could you possibly build on the property 100 feet
you have to set your house back 50 feet, what do you have?
to have a 50-foot backyard?
MR. DOUGLASS: No, that isn't the point. It would be granted
to the existing thing, but it must be asked for. There is no such
thing as approving something that is not asked for.
MRS. HART: Don't you think we should have been advised of that
when we applied to him?
MR. DOUGLASS: There is no question about that.
MRS. HART: I don't-want to go through all that again. We don't
even know if we want to build this house. We just want to know can
we build a house there.
MR. DOUGLASS: Well, then, what you are interested in really is
subdividing the piece?
MR. HART: That's what we are doing, to find out if we can build
on it? This is why the whole thing is brought about.
MR. TUTHILL.~ When you plan to build your house then you would
come in and reapply for that.
'MR. HART: So I could build a house on this without a variance
if you would look at the survey. I can put it on there without that
side. I could have a 50-foot rearyard and ll-foot sideyard and
50-foot frontyard without any variance.
MR. DOUGLASS: There is no way in the world you could get on
that property without a variance.
MR. HART: You could change the house and make ~it long and
narrow.
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MR. DOUGLASS: It would really be narrow.
MR. HART: We have a 100 feet there, we could move'this house
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over here within 11 feet of this then I would have 20-foot house, and
still 50 feet in here.
MR. DOUGLASS: You can come down here by using this as a sideyard
but then you would have to have, one of these you are allowed to have
as a rearyard and one as a sideyard. A rearyard has got to have 50"
feet and the front has to have 50. But you have two fronts. So you
still have to get 50 in the rear with, and you can't do that without
a variance which there is no problem. It's not correct the way it is,
What we can do is subdivide it. You're still, the surrounding
neighborhood that you are in is all by subdividing it. You're still
within the standard of all the surrounding neighborhood. It's all
that size or smaller. So, if it's ~- if we cross out the asking of
the setback until you want to come in with a house, we can subdivide
it. I'll make a motion that the subdivision be allowed with the
stipulation that only one dwelling can be on those two lots.
MRS. HART: That would be all right. That's all we would want.
MR. DOUGLASS: Then when you want to come in with a house plan,
then you will have to come back for a variance on the setback because
we cannot, if we give you the variance on the rearyard you will have
to Come back for a frontyard variance anyway. So if you wait until
you see what house you want to put on it, then come in, then you will
know what footage you'll want.
MRS. HART: That's all right.
MR. TUTHILL: We could give him an undersized lot but that's
about it.
MR. DOUGLASS: Right-i
MRS. HART: That's all right with you?
MR. HART: Yes.
MR. DOUGLASS: So I'll make a motion that the subdivision of
this piece into making lots 108 and 109 one independent lot with
the stipulation that only one dwelling may be built on i~ in the
future.
After investigation and inspection, thg Board finds that the
applicants are requesting a subdivision of merged four lots into
two parcels thereby leaving again insufficient area for.each lot,
and requesting a rearyard setback as a result of the proposed house
location on parcels 1000-076-2-6 & 7. However, the Board notices
that a frontyard variance will also be required and was not included
in the Building Inspector's Disapproval nor in the variance applica-
tion as submitted. The Board agrees with the reasoning of the
applicants as submitted in their application for a subdivision but
does not agree with the setback as requested inasmuch as another
Variance will be required.
The Board finds that strict application of the Ordinance would
produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship, the hardship
SOUTIIOLD TOWN BOARD OF APPEALS -5- October 11, 197~.
created is unique and would not be shared by all properties allke
im the immediate vicinity of the property and in the same use district;
~nd the variance for the subdivision as requested will not change the
~haracter of the neighborhood and will observe the spirit of the
Ordinance.
On motion by Mr. Douglass, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it was
RESOLVED, that CHARLES AND EDNA ~RT, Smith Drive, Southold, New
York 11971, be GRANTED a Variance to the Zoning Ordinance, Article
III, Section 100-31 for permission to subdivide with insufficient
area, but that the Variance for permission to construct dwelling with
insufficient rearyard setback BE DENIED WITHOUT PREJUDICE. The
Variance for a subdivision as requested is subject to the following
CONDITIONS:
(1) .Southold Town Planning Board approval,
(2) Suffolk County Planning Commission approval.
Location of property: Smith's Drive North, Southold, New York;
bounded north by Smith Drive, south by Smith Drive South, east by
Smith Drive South, west by Carway and Hoffman.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Douglass, Grigonis, Tuthill
and Doyen.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2610. Upon application of Thomas
and Jacqueline Occhiogrosso, 77 Vanderbilt Boulevard, Oakdale, New
York (Irving L. Price, JK., Esq.) for a Variance to the Zoning Ordi-
nance with insufficient frontyard setback. Location of property:
Corey Creek Lane, Southold, New York; bounded north by Corey Creek
Lane, south by Corey Creek, west by Hammerschlag, east by Corey
Creek Lane.
The Acting Chairman opened the hearing at 7:52 P.M. by reading
the application for a Variance to the Zoning Ordinance, Article III,
Section 100-31 for permission to construct dwelling with insufficient
frontyard setback, reading the legal notice of hearing a~d affidavits
attesting to its. publication in the local and official newspapers,
Notice of Disapproval from the Building Inspector, and letter from
the Town Clerk that notification to adjoining property owners was
made to the Hammersc;~!ags and the'Ebelers; fee paid $15.00.
MR. DOUGLASS: I have a copy of the survey map of the property
and the situation where the house and the sewage, water and so on
will be. I also have a section of the County Tax Map which shows
the piece of property on it. I have a copy of the Town of Southold
Wetlands Permi~ #27 that was granted by the Town Board according to
information furnished in application ~39 filed by applicant_~on ......~--~-~.'~'"'~
June 15, 1979 to the Town Clerk. ~'~ ~. ~J i~ '~1 '~
~ ull Mr. Douglass read the Southold Town Wetlands Permit #27 in
; with all conditions. -~
COMMISSION
5~th A. Hubbard
Lee E. Koppelman
D~r~ctor o!
Suffolk..County Department of Planning
JOHN V.N. KLEIN. Courtly Executive
Yeterans Memorial Highway ltauppauge. £..I., IV. Y. 11787
979-2918
Town of Southold
Board of Appeals
October 22, 1979
Pursuant. to the requirements cf Sections 1223 ~o'1332 of.the'Suffolk Co~ty Charter,
the following applications which have been referred to the Suffolk County Planning
Commission are considered to be a matter for local determination. A decision of
local determination should not be construed as either an approval or a disapproval.
Applicant
Municipal File Number
Thomas '& Jacqueline Occhiogrosso
Kiwanis Club of Southold
Kiwanis. Club of Southold
Charles & Edna Hart
2610
2612
2613
2614
GGN:Jk
Very truly yours,
Lee E. Koppelman
Director of Planning
PLANNER
TOV~N OF SOUTIIOLD, NEW YORK
ACTION OF THE ZONING BOAI~D OF APPEALS
*~/Appeal No. 2614 Dated September 24, 1979
ACTION OF T~ ZONING BOARD OF APPE~ OF THE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
To Charles & Edna Hart
Smith Drive
Southold, NY 11971
Appellant
at a meeting of the Zoning Board of Appeals on October 11,
· ,vas considered and the action indicated below was taken on your
( ) Request for variance due to lack of access to property
( ) Request for a special exception under the Zoning Ordinance
~X) Request for a variance to the Zoning Ordinance
( )
1979,
the appeal
1. ~g~fK~i~x'~Ik'0/]X/~[~ By resolution of the Board it was determined that a special exception ( ) be
granted ( ) be denied pursuant to Axticle .................... Section .................... Subsection .................... paragraph
.................... of the Zoning Ordinance and the decision of the Building Inspector ( ) be reversed ( ) be
confirmed because 7:30 P.M. (D.S.T.) Upon application of Charles and
Edna Hart, Smith Drive, Southold, New York, for a Variance to the
Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section 100-31 for permission to
subdivide with insufficient area, and for permission to construct
dwelling with insufficient rearyard setback. Location of property:
Smith's Drive North, Southold, New York; bounded north by Smith
Drive, south by Smith Drive South, east by Smith Drive South, west
by Carway and Hoffman.
(SEE REVERSE)
2. VARIANCE. By resolution of the Board it was determined that
(a) Strict application of the Ordinance (would) (would not) produce practical
hardship because
(SEE REVERSE)
difficulties or ~lnnecessary
(b) The hardship created (is) (is not) unique and (would) (would not) be shared by all properties
alike in the /mmediate vicinity of this property and in the same use district because
(SEE REVERSE)
(c) The variance (does) (does not) observe the spirit of the Ordinance and (would)
change the character of the district because
(SEE REVERSE)
(would not)
.and therefore, it was further determined that the requested variance ( ) be granted (
that the previous decisions of the Building Inspector ( ) be confirmed ( ) be reversed.
APPROVED
BOARD OF APPEALS
) be denied and
After investigation and inspection, the Board finds that the
applicants are requesting a subdivision of merged four lots into
two parcels thereby leaving an insufficient area for each lot,
and requesting a rearyard setback as a result of the proposed
house location on parcels 1000-076-2-6 & 7. However, the Board
notices that a frontyard variance will also be required and was
not included in the Building Inspector's Disapproval nor in the
variance application as submitted. The Board agrees with the
reasoning of the applicants as submitted in their application for
a subdivision, but does not agree with the setback as requested
inasmuch as another variance will be required.
The Board finds that strict application of the Ordinance
would produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship;
the hardship created is unique and would not be shared by all
properties alike in the immediate vicinity of the property and
in the same use district; and the variance for the subdivision
as requested will not change the character of the neighborhood
and will observe the spirit of the Ordinance.
On motion made by Mr. Douglass, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it
was
RESOLVED, that CHARLES AND EDNA HART, Smith Drive, Southold,
New York 11971, be GRANTED a Variance to the Zoning Ordinance,
Article III, Section 100-31 for permission to subdivide with
insufficient area, but that the Variance requested for permission
to construct dwelling with insufficient rearyard setback be
DENIED WITHOUT PREJUDICE. The Variance for a subdivision of
~e parcels as requested is subject to the following CONDITIONS:
(ih Southold Town Planning~Board approval,
(2) Suffolk County Planning Commission approval.
Location of property: Smith's Drive North, Southold, New
York; bounded north by Smith Drive, south and east by Smith
Drive South, west by Carway & Hoffman.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Douglass, Grigonis,
Tuthill and Doyen.
TOWN CLERK
Building Dept
Planning
Board of Appeals
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
TOWN CLERK'S OFFICE
Main Road
Southold, N. Y. 11971
765-3783
765-2660
Pursuant to the General Municipal Law, Chapter 24, of the Consolidated Laws, Article 12-B, Sections 239-1 and m,
the .B..o.a.r.d...o.f..~.~p..p.e.a.1. s. ................. of the town of..SOU..t, hOl~ ...................
(agency involved)
hereby refers the following proposed zoning action to the Suffolk County Planning Commission:
(check one)
HART, Charles & Edna
................ New and recodified zoning ordinance Smith Drive
................ Amendment to the zoning ordinance Southold, NY 11971
................ Zoning changes Appeal No, 2614
- . ............... Special permits
....X.~ ........ Variances to set,off lots with insufficient area
Location of affected land: Smith Drive i~orth, Southold ~ NY
within S00 feet of: (check one or more) County Tax }~ap ~,lo. 1000-076-02-2,7,36,37
....X...X. ........ Town or village boundary line, or shore line
................ State or county road, parkway or expressway
................ State or county park or recreation area
................ Stream or drainage channel owned by the county or for which the county has established channel lines.
................ State or county owned parcel on which a public building is situated
Comments: Variance to set -off with insufficient area and to build with
insufficient rearyard was granted subject to recorm~tendaJaions of the
Town Planning Board and approval of the Suffolk County ~lanning Com-
mission. Parcels were originally set-off into four lots but became
merged because of "same ownership~ Applicant is now asking to set-
off into two lots.
Date:
(signed) Linda F. Kowalski
Secretary
Title
Date received by Suffolk County Planning Commission ....................................................................................
File No .................................
Southold Town Board of Appeals
-~I-ILITHr'ILD, L. I., N.Y. !19'71
TELEPHONE {516) 765-1809
APPEALS BOARD
MEMBERS
CHARLES GRIGONIS, JR.
SERGE DOYEN, JR.
TERRY TUTHILL
ROBERT J. DOUGLAS~ .A. Cti~g Chai~maFi
October 16, 1979
Miss Muriel Tolman, Secretary
Southold Town Planning Board
Town Hall
Southold, NY 11971
Re: Matters before the Board of Appeals Requiring Planning Board
Recommendation/Procedure/Approval
Dear Mert:
The following matters have been heard by this Board on
Thursday, October 11, 1979 and were considered favorably
subject to the following conditions:
Matter of
~ppeal No.
Determination & Conditions
HART, Charles
& Edna
County Tax Map
%1000-076-02-
6,7,36,37.
(see attached)
2614
Minor Subdivision recommenda-
tion of the Town Planning
Board; Suffolk County Plan-
ning Commission approval;
variance application for
frontyard setback. }
REICH BROTHERS
County Tax Map
%1000-31-2-
20,21.
(see attached)
DICKINSON,
Ralph H.
County Tax Map
%1000-128-06-05.
(see attached)
2611
2629
Site Plan Approval of the
Town Planning Board.
Special Exception approved
for lease purposes only;
if purchased must re-apply.
Subject to property being
a legally set-off lot by
the Town Planning Board;
Suffolk County Planning
Commission approval; appli-
cation for approval of
access to Board of Appeals
and insufficient area to
set-off lot if not on file
as a legally set-off lot.
Southold Town Planning Board -2-
October 16, 1979
The following matter was recessed until November 15, 1979
in order to allow applicants to negotiate an alternate right-of-
way to their premises with Mr. Bokina:
Raeburn-Murphy
County Tax Map
#1000-073-02-03
2609
Applicant advises that ap-
plication is in for subdivi-
sion before Town Planning
Board.
Sincerely yours,
Linda F, Kowalski
Secretary
LEGAL NOTICE
NOTICE OF HEARINGS
Pursuant to Section 267 of
, the Town Law and Provisions
of the Amended Building Zone
Ordinance of Southold Tow1],
New York, public hearings will
be held by the Zoning Board of
Appeals at Town H~dl, Main
Road, Southold, New York, on
Thursday, October Il, 1879 on
the follow/nE hearings:
"~a~ance to the Zoning Ordin-
ance, Article IH, Section 100.
31, for permission to subdivide
with insufficient area and
permission to construct dwell,
log with insufficient rearyard
~-'thac~. Location of p~opert¥:
Smith's Drive l~orth, South-
old, New York; bounded north
by Smith Drive; south by
Smith Drive Sooth; east by
Smith Drive South; west by
Carway and
7:45 P.M. (D.S.T.) Upon
-application of Thomas and
`iacquciine Occhiogrosso, 77
Vanderbilt Boulevard, Oak-
dale, New York (Irving L.
Price, Esq.), for a Variance to
the Zoning Ordinance, Article
lIl, Section 100-31, for permis-
sion to construct dwelling with
insufficient frontyard setback.
Location of property: CoreyJ
Creek Lane, Southold, New
York, bounded north by Corny
Creek I4~ne; south by Corey
Creek; west by Hammer-
' schin8; east by Corey Creek
8:00 P.M. (D.S.T.) Upon
application of Reich Brothers
Automotive Service ]nc., Front
._.Street, Greenpert, Hew York
(William H. Price, ,Ir., Esq.),
for a Special Exception to the
Zoning Ordinance, Article IX,
Sections 100-90 and 100-gl, for
COUNTY OF SUFFOLK (
STATE OF NEW YORK
Patricia Wood, being duly sworn, says that she is the
Editor, of THE LONG ISLAND TRAVELER-WATCHMAN,
a public newspaper printed at Southold, in Suffolk County;
and that the notice of which the annexed is a printed copy,
has been published in said Lon~ Island Traveler-Watch.
man once each week for .......... L..... ......................weeks
successively, commencing on the ..... ~ .......................
dali ............
....... : ......... ::.-.... .......
Sworn before th/s ~
to me
.... . ...... (~y or
·
ANTOiN~I'I'E BERKOSKI
NOTARY P'~ ~, $t8 e of New York
~',~ o. 52-4~00796 t9~7/_
~on ~phes March ~,
'* LEGAL NOTICE
NOTICE OF HEARINGS
Pursuant tQ Section 267 of
the Town Law and Provisions
· of the Amended Building Zone
O. rdinance of Southold Town,
New York, public hearings
will be held by the Zoning
'Beard of Appeals at Town
-Hall, Main Read, S0uthold,
New York, on Thursday, dc-
tober 11, 1979 on the following
hearings:
~ ?;~ P.M. (D.S.T.) Uvon_
~,~/~,~Smith Drive South
anoc, Article III, Soction 100- --
31, for permission to subdivide/'
with insuffieient area and for
i~ngmission to eonstruet dwel-
with iesuffieient rearyard
octback. Location of property:
Smith's Drive North, South-
old, New York; bounded north
by Smith Drive; south by
Smith Drive South; east by
Smith Drive South; west by
Carway and Hoffman.
7:45 P.M. (D.S?r.) Upon
application of Thomas and
Jacqueline Ocehiogrosso, 77
Vanderbilt Boulevard, Oak-
dale, New York (Irving L.
Price, Esq. L for a Varianoc to
the Zoning Ordinance, Article
III, Section 10~-31, for permis-
sion to construct dwelling with
insufficient frontyard setback./-
Location of property: Core~~
Crock Lane, Southold, New
York, bounded north by Corey
Creek Lane; south by Corey
Creek; west by Hammer-
schlag; east by Corey Creek
Lane.
8:00 P.M. (D.S.T.) Upon
application of Reich Brothers
Automotive Service Inc..
Front Street, Grocnport, New
York (William H. Price, Jr.,
Esq.), for a Special Exception
to the Zoning Ordinance, Art-
icle IX, Sections 100-90 and
100-91, for permission to oper-
ate an Automotive Repair
Shop. Location of property:
Rocky Point Road. East Mar-
ion, New York; bounded north~
by Edwards; east by Estate of
· Nowell; south by Muir; west
by Rocky Point Road.
8:15 P.M. (D.S.T.i Upon
application of Gertrude C.
McLean, Blue Marlin Drive,
Southold, New York (George
C. Stankevich, Esq. L for a
Variance to the Zoning Ordin2
ance, Article III, Section
31 for permission to construct
width. Location of property:
Main Read, East Marion, New
York; bounded north by Rey-
bine, south by Main Read,
west by Limouze, east by Dam
Pond.
9:00 P.M, (D.S.T.) upon
· application of Vincent and
Catherine Acunto, 35 Glenrich
Drive, St. James, New York
(Rudolph H. Bruer, Esq.) for
a Variance to the Zoning
Ordinance, Article III, Section
100-31 for permission to con-
struct dwelling with insuffic-
to erect' off-premises di-
rectiond~ ·ign. Location of
property: Tabor Read and
Main Read, Orient, New
'York; bounded north by Main
' ~ Read, Ferreira, Gloria, Wer-
inkowski, south by Orient Cen-
. tral Cemetery, west by Tabor
Read, east by Terry.
10:35 P.M. (D.S.T.) Upon
application of Southold Town
Democratic Committoc,
$outhold, New York, for a
Special Exception to the Zon- .
lent frontyard setback. Loca- ing Ordinance, for permission
tion of property: Gagen's to erect an off-premisoc di-/
Landing Road and Clearviev~/ rectional sign. Location of
Avenue, Southold, New York; . ' preporty: Main Read, South-
bounded north by Clearview old, New York; bounded north
Avenue, southbyGonseCreek, '. by Willow Hill Cemetery;
west by Gagen's Landing
Read, east by Gagen,.Lade-
mann and Delyanis.
9:15 P.M. (D.S.T.) Upon
application of Stuart F. Du-
bon, 293 Randall Avenue,
Freeport, New York, (Gary
Flanner Olsen, Esq.) for a
· Variance to the Zoning Ordin-
ance, Article III, Section 100-
31 for permission to construct
a dwelling with insufficient
sideyard. Location of proper-
ty: Southern Cross Read (or
South Cross Road), Cut-
chogue, New York: bounded
north by South Cross Read;,~'
south by Hunt, Gurican, Mill-
to; west by Moon; east by
Wolber.
9:25 P.M. (D.S.T.) Upon
application of Mattitock Hold-
ing Co. Mill Road, Mattituck,
· New York, for a Special Ex-
ception to the Zoning Ordin-
ance, Article VIII, Section 100-
80B(15) for permission to con-
struct a boat storage shed.
Location of property: We§t
Mill Road,' Mattituck, New
York; _bounded north by
Holmes, Killian; south byFou-
dy, Ziegler, McGunnigle; west
by Loc Grande, Inlet Ledge
Inc.; east by Mattituck Creek.
9:40 P.M. (D.S.T.) Upon
application of Kiwanis Club
Southold, Box 150, Peconic,
New York, for a Special Ex-
ception to the Zoning Ordin-
ance, Article III, Section 100-
30B4.a, for permission to place
building for charity use in a
residential district. Location
of property: Route 25 and
Lower Road, Southold, New
York; bounded north by
Lower Road, south by Route
25, west by Route 25, east by ·
south by Bogovic, Goldsmith,
west by Lower Road, east by
Main Road.
10:45 P.M. (D.S.T.) UPOn
application of Southold Town
Democratic' Committee,
Southold, New York, for a
Special Exception to the Zon-
ing Ordinance, for permission
to erect an off-premises direc-
tional sign. Location of proper-
ty: Main Read, Southold, New
York; bounded north by Trav-
eler Street, south by Main
Read, west by Pudge Corp.
and Dougherty, east by South,/
old Free Library.
10:55 P.M. ID.S.T.) Upon
application of Southold Town
Democratic Committoc,
Southold, New York, for a
Special Exception to the Zon-
ing Ordinance, for permission
to erect an off-premises direc-
tional sign. Location of proper-
ty: Main Read, Orient, New
York; bounded north by Main
Road, south by Orient Harbor,
west by Aha, east by Welles.
11:05 P.M. (D.~'.T.) Upon
application of Southold Town
Democratic Committoc,
Southold, New York, for a
Special Exception to the Zon- .
ing Ordinance, for permission
to erect an off-premises diroc-/'
tional sign. Location of proper-
ty: County Road 27 and Cox
Lane, Cutchogue, New York;'
bounded north by County Road
2,, south by Pietrewicz, west
by Pietrewicz, east by Cox
Lane·
11:15 P.M. (D.S.T.) Upon
aoolication of Southold Town
Democratic ~ommittoc,
Southold, New York, for a
Special Exception to the Zon-
ing Ordinance to erect an
dwelling with insufficient Goldsmith.
..frontandrear-vardsetbzeks ..... _9:_5~0. P.M. (DST} Uoon cation of property: County
premises directional sign. Lo-
duly Sworn.
he SUFFOLK
,nport. in said
~d is u printed
~Veekly Times
..... weeks
LEGAL NOTICE
NOTICE OF HEARINGS
?ursuant to Section 267 of the Town Law and Provisions of
the Amended Building Zone Ordinance of Southold Town, New York,
public hearings will be held by the Zoning Eoard of Appeals at
Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York, on Thursday, October 11,
1979 on the following hearings:
7:30 P.M. (D~L~ Upon application of Charles and Edna Hart,
Smith Drive Southold, Southold, New York, for a Variance to the
Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section 100v31, for permission to
subdivide with insufficient area and for permission to construct
dwelling with insufficient rearyard setback. Location of proper-
ty: Smith's Drive North, Southold, New York; bounded
north by Smith Drive; south by Smith Drive South; east by Smith
Drive South; west by Carway and Hoffman.
7:45 P.M. (D.S.T.) Upon application of Thomas and Jacqueline
Occhiogrosso, 77 Vanderbilt Boulevard, Oakdale, New York (Irv-
ing L. Price, Esq.), for a Variance to the Zoning Ordinance,
Article III, Section 100-31, for permission to construct dwelling
with insufficient frontyard setback. Location of property:
iCorey Creek Lane, Southold, New York, bounded north by Corey
Creek Lane; south by Corey Creek; west by Hammerschlag;
east by Corey Creek Lane.
8:00 P.M. (D.S.T.) Upon application of Reich Brothers
Automotive Service Inc., Front Street, Greenport? New York
(William H. Price, Jr.~ Esq.), for a Special Exception to the
Zoning ordinance, Article IX, Sections 100-90 and 100-91, for
permission to operate an Automotive Repair Shop. Location of
property: Rocky Point Road, East Marion, New York; bounded
north by Edwards; east by Estate of Nowell; south by Muir;
west by Rocky Point Road.
8:15 P.M. (D.S.T.) Upon application of Gertrude C. McLean,
Blue Marlin Drive, Southold, New York (George C. Stankevich, Esq.
'.~ ' ~tf FORM NO. 3 l'
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TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
BUILDING DEPARTMENT
TOWN CLERK'S OFFICE
SOUTHOLD, N. Y.
NOTICE OF DISAPPROVAL
........................................ ~.u..Z~L~.~.~ ...... ~ ::. / ~ ~ 7 /
PLEASE TAKE NOTICE that your application doted
flor permit to construct D[d~LLm~& ~ ~WIb~=
t the premises located at ....................................
.......................................................... · ........... btree~
returned herewith ond disapproved on the following grounds ...... ~J~..~.~..~.E.~.~..~.~.~. ............
.~.~..6.-v....BP.~.._..~.~_....~.C~.~.LP.~ ........ ~.~.~.z .......... ~.....~L~E~......~ .......
Building Inspector
LdT. S It '~ ~- /07 OF
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OFFICE OF' TOWN CLERK
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
JUDITH T. TERRY -
TOWN CLERK
REGISTRAR OF VITAL STATISTICS
SUFFOLK COUNTY
Southold, L. I., N. Y. 11971
TELEPHONE
(516) 765-1801
September 24, 1979
To: S°uthold Town Zoning Board of Appeals
From: Judith T. Terry, Town Clerk
Transmitted herewith is Zoning Appeal No. 2614 application of Charles & Edna
Hart for a variance. Also included are notification to adjoining property
OWners as follows: Robert Hoffman, 83 W. 4th Street, Deer Park, N.Y. 11729;
John J. Carway, 155 Emory Road, Mineola, N.Y. 11501. ~
JTT/bn
cc:file
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TOWN OF SOUTHOLD, NEW YORK
APPEAL FROM DECISION OF BUILDING INSPECTOR
TO THE ZONING BOARD OP APPEALS, TOWN OF SOUTHOLD, N. Y.
,, ..... o, ...........
Name of Appellant Street and Number
....... ~.~.0..?,,..T.,~t~,.fl..,~,,./.~?. ........................................................ ~.:...~.'. ......... HEREBY APPEAL TO
Municipality State
THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FROM THE DECISION OF THE BUILDING INSPECTOR ON
APPLICATION FOR PERMIT NO ..................................... DATED ......................................................
WHEREBY THE BUILDING INSPECTOR DENIED TO
.............................
Name of Applicant for permit
o, ........ z . .zz
/-- Street and Number Municipality State
(V~ PERMIT TO USE
( ) PERMIT FOR OCCUPANCY
( )
1. LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY .-.~I'~..L:'~./"J..:~.,..1D../..~......J?~: ........................... .............................
Street Use District on Zoning MaD
/~ E £ / ~ E /,/ 7-/,4 I-
,./. L, ~ ~ .................. Z..~.~..,./.~..~ .~../.zo~
'i;~'~' ~i;;.' ............ Lat No.
2. PROVISION (S) OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE APPEALED (Indicate the Article Section, Sub-
section and Paragraph of the Zoning Ordinance by number. Do not quote the Ordinance.)
/-I ~ 7' ~/~0 -3/
3. TYPE OF APPEAL Appeal is made herewith for
(~.)~- A VARIANCE to the Zoning Ordinance or Zoning Map
{ ) A VARIANCE due to lack of access (State of New York Town Law Chap. 62 Cons, Lows
Art. 16 Sec. 280A Subsection 3
4. PREVIOUS APPEAL A previous appeal (has) (has not) been mode with respect to this decision
of the Building Inspector or with respect to this property.
Such appeal was ( ) request for a special permit
( ) request for a variance
and was made in Appeal No ................................. Dated ......................................................................
REASON FOR APPEAL
( ) A Variance to Section 280A Subsection 3
( ) A Variance to the Zoning Ordinance
( )
is requested for the reason that ~/E- ~'IS/f To
~EpA~AT'/rvC- Z~oT3 /o?' ~ /o~
~'orm Zl~I (Continue on other side)
C (-
REASONFOR APPEAL Continued
1. STRICT APPLICATION OF THE ORDINANCE would produce practical difficulties or unneces-
sar,/ HARDSHIP because _ :~ /_~,~,~_
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vicinity of this property and in this use district because
The hardship created is UNIQUE and is not shared by all properties alike in the immediate
3. The Variance would observe the spirit of the Ordinance and WOULD NOT CHANGE THE
-CHARACTER OF THE DISTRICT because
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COUNTY 0~:~ ) Signature
Sworn to this ............... c~.~/..~ ................ day of ............ ~ .......... 19 7~'
BOARD OF APPEALS, TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
In the Matter of the Petition of
to the Board of Appeals of the Town of Southold
TO:
NOTICE
!
YOU ARE HEREBY GIVEN NOTICE:
1. That it is the intention of the undersigned to petition the Board of Appeals of the Town of Southold
to request a !Variance) (Special Exception) (Special Permit) (the following relief:
).
2. That the property which is the subject of the Petition is located adjacent to your property and is des-
cribed as follows: ~-0T~' /c~'~ /~'~.. //~/ or-///
3. That the property which is the subject of such Petition is located in the following zoning district:
4. That by such Petition, the undersigned will request the following relief:
5. That the provisions of the Southold Town Zoning Code applicable to the relief sought by the under-
signedare: ~/~7"!O/-/= ~_~ - //j~
6. That within five days from the date hereof, a written Petition requesting the relief specified above will
be filed in the Southold Town Clerk's Office at Main Road, Southold, New York and you ma), then and there
examine the same during regular office hours.
7. That before the relief sought may be granted, a public hearing must be held on the matter by the
Board of Appeals; that a notice of such hearing must be published at least five days prior to the date of such
hearing in the Suffolk Times and in the Long Island Traveler-Mattituck Watchman, newspapers published in the
Town of Southold and designated for the publication of such notices; that you or your representative have the
right to appear and be heard at such hearing.
Petitioner
Post 0~f~ice Address
PROOF OF MAILING OF NOTICF
NAME
ADDRESS
STATE OF NEW YORK )
COUNTY OF SUFFOLK )
SS.:
,~'c~ ~ T/Jo ~0, ~..~. //~ 7/ , being duly sworn, deposes and says that on the ~ day
of ~/~/~/,~ r~ ,19 ~ ~ , deponent mailed a true copy of the Notice set forth on the re-
verse side hereof, directed to each of the above-named persons at the addresses set opposite their respective
names; that the addresses set opposite the names of said persons are the addresses of said persons as shown on
the current assessment roll of the Town of Southold; that said Notices were mailed at the United States Post Of-
rice at ~o o ~ ~ ,~ ,~/~/. ~, ; that said Notices were mailed to each of said persons by
(~ertified) (registered) mail.
Sworn t o b~ ~o,~e .~his 44
day of ~'~~ , 19~.
~' ~otary Public
JUDITH T. ~ERRY
NO~ P~, State e~ New, Y~rk
NO, ~2.03a4963 Suffolk
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VALERIE $COPAZ
TOWN PLANNER
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 1179
$outhold, New York 11971
TELEPHONE
(516) 765-1938
MEMORANDUM
TO:
FROM:
DATE:
RE:
Matthew G. Kiernan, Assistant Town Attorney
Valerie Scopaz, Town Planner ~$
March 12, 1990
Property of the late Charles and Edna Hart:
Your memorandum of March 5, 1990
In reviewing the facts of the case, namely Michael Halls's
letter to the Tax Assessor's office, the Zoning Board's decision
of October 1979, and the Planning Board's files, it is evident
that the Harts failed to'comply with the Zoning Board's
condition of approval.
The Zoning Board's decision clearly states two conditions
of approval: one condition was that Planning Board approval for
the subdivision be obtained. There is no record in the Planning
Board's files of such an application being made or granted.
Presumably the heirs of the Harts could come in now and
make application to the Planning Board for a two-lot
subidivision (or a set-off if the Planning Board so determines),
provided the Town has no problem with recognizing the validity
of the variance. The validity of the variance is not at all
clear.
It is important that you and Harvey and the Town Board
clarify whether the 1979 variance can be recognized under the
1989 Zoning Code amendments. One of the issues that had come up
last year was whether a variance that had never been acted on or
that had conditions that had never been met could be considered
valid. Victor, Jay Schondebare and I researched this question
carefully. It was decided that this question needed to be
answered by the Town Board because the Town Board had made it
clear that it did not want any grandfathering to take place when
the 1989 amendments were adopted. However, it failed to specify
how the Building Department and the Planning Board were to
regard those variances that had not been either fufilled or
enacted by the 1989 enactment date of the amendments.
This question also existed where site plans were
concerned. However, in May of 1989, the Town Board cleared that
question up by placing a three year limitation on site plan
approvals granted prior to May of 1989.
Accordingly, I think the Town Board should address this
matter. My suggestion is that this general q~uestion (not the
specifics of this case) be brought to the attention of the
Planning and Zoning Committee for discussion' and decision on
whether to make a recommendation to the Legislative Committee.
CC:
Planning Board
Zoning Board
Victor Lessard
Tom Wickham, Chairman,
Planning and Zoning Committee
Harvey A. Arnoff
Town Attorney
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Matthew G. Kiernan
Assistant Town Attorney
OFFICE OF THE TOWN ATTORNEY
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 1179
Southold, New York 11971
TELEPHONE
(516) 765-1939
FAX NO.
{516) 765-1823
DATE: March 5, 1990
TO: Valerie Scopaz ,~,/j/~)
FROM: Matthew G. Kiernan
RE: Property Owned by Charles and Edna Hart
Enclosed please find a letter from Michael g. Hall, Esq.,
dated February 15, 1990 regarding property owned by Charles and Edna
Hart in Southold. Also enclosed please find the minutes of the Southold
Town Board of Appeals of October 11, 1979 in which the Hart's were
granted a variance. After you have had an opportunity to review the
enclosed documents and to determine the status of the parcel(s), please
see me so we can discuss possible resolutions of this situation.
runs with the land, and I believe that the merger of these two
parcels in 1986 was an error. There was only a change in equitable
ownership of both parcels.
Inasmuch as this error was not discovered until both Mr. and Mrs.
Hart were dead, and since the continuation of this error would
cause serious hardship to the Harts' only children, I hereby
request that the two parcels be restored to their original separate
tax lots immediately.
S~ely,
MiChael J. Hall
MJH/bl
encs.
CC Southold Town Attorney/
Hon. Scott Harris, Town Supervisor
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February 15, 1990
Southold Town Tax Assessors
Town Hall
Southold, NY, 11971
Re:
Property owned by Charles and Edna Hart
Smith Street
Southold, NY
Present SCTM 1000-76-02-37.1
Formerly SCTM 1000-76-02-36
and SCTM 1000-76-02-37
Gentlemen:
Please be advised that I represent Linda Burke and Phillip Hart,
the only two children and sole heirs of Edna Hart, who died a
resident of Southold Town on June 15, 1985 and Charles Hart, who
died a resident of Southold Town on October 22, 1989. Mr. and Mrs.
Hart (or their own trust)were the owners of the above-referenced
property at the time of their death.
The subject property originally consisted of several small parcels
from the "Map of Goose Neck" Subdivision, created in 1948. In
1979, the Harts obtained a variance from the Southold Town Zoning
Board of Appeals approving two separate building parcels, one of
which already contained the Harts' home and the other kept vacant
to be bequeathed to their children upon their death. During the
entire time both before and after the variance was granted, both
parcels were held in identical ownership: "Charles Hart and Edna
Hart, his wife."
In 1985_, Mr. and Mrs. Hart, who were following the advice of a
professional financial and estate planner, deeded both parcels to
Trusts of which they were the primary trustees and Linda Burke and
Phillip Hart were the recipients upon their death.
Apparently, as a result of this deed transfer, either your office
or the Suffolk County Tax Office merged the two parcels in
approximately 1986, even though both parcels were held in common
ownership for many years prior to this transfer.
It is settled Zoning law in New York that a variance, once granted,
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TELEPHONE (536) 765-1809
APPEALS BOARD
MEMBERS
CHARLES GRIGONIS, JR.
SERGE DOYEN, JR.
TERRY TUTHILL
ROBERT J. DOUGLASS ~, Acting Chairman
MINUTES
SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD OF APPEALS
OCTOBER 11, 1979
A regular meeting of the Southold Town Board of Appeals was held
on October 11, 1979 at 7:30 P.M. (D.S.T.) at the Town Hall, Main Road,
Southold, New York 11971.
There were present: Messrs. Robert J. Douglass, Acting Chairman,
Charles Grigonis, Jr., Terry R. Tuthill, Jr. and Serge Doyen, Jr.
PUBLIC HEARING. Appeal No. 2614. Upon application of Charles
and Edna Hart, Smith Drive, Southold, New York, for a Variance to the
Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section 100-31 for permission to sub-
divide with insufficient area, and for permission to construct
dwelling with insufficient area, and for permission to construct
dwelling with insufficient rearyard setback. Location of property:
Smith's Drive North, Southold, New York; bounded north by Smith
Drive, south by Smith Drive South, east by Smith Drive South, west
by Carway & Hoffman.
The Acting Chairman opened the hearing at 7:39 P.M. by reading
the application for a Variance, reading legal notice of hearing and
affidavits attesting to its publication in the local and official
newspapers, Notice of Disapproval from the Building Inspector,
and letter from the Town Clerk that notification to adjoining prop-
erty owners was made to Robert Hoffman and John J. Carway; fee
paid $15.00.
MR. DOUGLASS: We have a copy of the survey and a section of
the County Tax Map showing the property. It hapi0~ns to be on a
(ong half-circle where the. North Drive and South ~r'~, ~.~ii'i0in.]~ IS
'-there anybody in the audience wishing to speak fo~'E~is application?
(THERE WAS NO RESPONSE.) ~ - ~
MR. DOUGLASS: Is there anybody in the audience wishing to
. SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD OF APPEALS
-2- October 11, 1979
speak against this application?
(THERE WAS NO RESPONSE.)
MR. DOUGLASS: Then I'll say a couple of words. In inspecting this
property, why what it was, when it was originally set up, it was four
little lots that before zoning they could have built on, but today they
can't. And what they have now is they have a house on one of the lots
and a garage on the other and they propose to divide off that and build
a house on the remaining piece, which would be a part rectangle and
part quarter-circle. Looking on the survey they show that they are
asking 35-foot setback here, and it would appear that they are asking
35 there. We see where they are asking for the rearyard setback, but
the frontyard is short.
MR HART: There is a 35-foot setback on that particular block.
MR. DOUGLASS: Are you the applicants?
MR. HART: Yes.
MR. DOUGLASS: I asked if there was anybodY that wanted to say
anything.
MRS. HART: We thought our neighbors.
MR. DOUGLASS: Now, on here, would you please step up here?
On your drawing you have 35-foot here.
MR. HART: That's the rearyard.
MR. DOUGLASS: But you only have 35 feet out here and this is
frontyard.
MR. HART: That an existing setback.
MR. DOUGLASS: But you have to have a variance on it because the
setback under the zoning code now is 50 feet.
MR. HART: Well, according to the Building Inspector we had to
conform with the existing houses in that block, and that's what we
did.
MR. DOUGLASS: Yes, but you have to ask for it.
MR. HART: We did. That's what we are doing now.
MR. DOUGLASS: No, you're asking for rearyard.
MR. HART: Well, this we left up to the Building Inspector to-
We felt there was no variance required for the setback in the frontyard
because according to him we had to meet the existing setback.
MR. DOUGLASS: That's what would be granted but it should have
been applied for in here.
MRS. HART: He should have told us that when we went in. We spent
,SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD OF APPEALS -3- October 11, 1979
three hours here one day, a couple of weeks ago, and he sketched that
in for us. He sketched that house in there.
MR. DOUGLASS: You see, you're in a situation here on a curve
straight and then a curve- You actually have two frontyards. This
one here on the curve part here you are perfectly all right. Now,
on this you only have 35 feet, so this application should ask for it.
MRS. HART: We didn't know that.
MR. GRIGONIS: Did the building inspector deny it on that?
MR. DOUGLASS: He put insufficient area. Not on excepted list
of filed subdivisions...insufficient rearyard, is all he put.
MR. GRIGONIS: He probably assumed it as frontyard.
MR.
deep, if
You have
HART: How could you possibly build on the property 100 feet
you have to set your house back 50 feet, what do you have?
to have a 50-foot backyard?
MR. DOUGLASS: No, that isn't the point. It would be granted
to the existing thing, but it must be asked for. There is no such
thing as approving something that is not asked for.
MRS. HART: Don't you think we should have been advised of that
when we applied to him?
MR. DOUGLASS: There is no question about that.
MRS. HART: I don't~want to go through all that again.
even know if we want to build this house. We just want to
we build a house there.
We don't
know can
MR. DOUGLASS: Well, then, what you are interested in really is
subdividing the piece?
MR. HART: That's what we are doing, to find out if we can build
on it? This is why the whole thing is brought about.
MR. TUTHILL~ When you plan to build your house then you would
come in and reapply for that.
MR. HART: So I could build a house on this without a variance
if you would look at the survey. I can put it on there without that
side. I could have a 50-foot rearyard and ll-foot sideyard and
50-foot frontyard without any variance.
MR. DOUGLASS: There is no way in the world you could get on
that property without a variance.
MR. HART: You could change the house and make it long and
narrow.
MR. DOUGLASS: It would really be narrow.
MR. HART: We have a 100 feet there, we could move this house
SOUTHOLD TO~'~ BOARD OF APPEALS -4- October 11, 1979
over here'within 11 feet of this then I would have 20-foot house, and
still 50 feet in here.
MR. DOUGLASS: You can come down here by using this as a sideyard
but then you would have to have, one of these you are allowed to have
as a rearyard and one as a sideyard. A rearyard has got to have 50 ~
feet and the front has to have 50. But you have two fronts. So you
still have to get 50 in the rear with, and you can't do that without
a variance which there is no problem. It's not correct the way it is,
What we can do is subdivide it. You're still, the surrounding
neighborhood that you are in is all by subdividing it. You're still
within the standard of all the surrounding neighborhood. It's all
that size or smaller. So, if it's ~- if we cross out the asking of
the setback until you want to c6me in with a house, we can subdivide
it. I'll make a motion that the subdivision be allowed with the
stipulation that only one dwelling can be on those two lots.
MRS. HART: That would be all right. That's all we would want.
MR. DOUGLASS: Then when you want to come in with a house plan,
then you will have to come back for a variance on the setback because
we cannot, if we give you the variance on the rearyard you will have
to come back for a frontyard variance anyway. So if you wait until
you see what house you want to put on it, then come in, then you will
know what footage you'll want.
MRS. HART: That's all right.
MR. TUTHILL: We could give him an undersized lot but that's
about it.
MR. DOUGLASS: Right.
MRS. HART: That's all right with you?
MR. HART: Yes.
MR. DOUGLASS: So I'll make a motion that the subdivision of
this piece into making lots 108 and 109 one independent lot with
the stipulation that only one dwelling may be built on it in the
future.
After investigation and inspection, the Board finds that the
applicants are requesting a subdivision of merqed four lots into
two parcels thereby leaving again insufficient'area for each lot,
and requestinq a rearyard setback as a result of the proposed house
location on parcels 1000-076-2-6 & 7. However, the Board notices
that a frontyard variance will also be required and was not included
in the Building Inspector's Disapproval nor in the variance applica-
tion as submitted. The Board agrees with the reasoning of the
applicants as submitted in their application for a subdivision but
does not agree with the setback as requested inasmuch as another
Varlance will be required.
The Board finds that strict application of the Ordinance would
produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship, the hardship
SOUTItOLD TOWN BOARD OF APPEALS -5- October 11, 1979
created is unique and would not be shared by all properties alzke
in the immediate vicinity of the property and in the same use district;
~d the variance for the subdivision as requested will not change the
~naracter of the neighborhood and will observe the spirit of the
Ordinance.
On motion by Mr. Douglass, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it was
RESOLVED, that CHARLES AND EDNA HART, Smith Drive, Southold, New
York 11971, be GRANTED a Variance to the Zoning Ordinance, Article
III, Section 100-31 for permission to subdivide with insufficient
area, but that the Variance for permission to construct dwelling with
insufficient rearyard setback BE DENIED WITHOUT PREJUDICE. The
Variance for a subdivision as requested is subject to the following
CONDITIONS:
(1) Southold Town Planning Board approval,
(2) Suffolk County Planning Commission approval.
Location of property: Smith's Drive North, Southold, New York;
bounded north by Smith Drive, south by Smith Drive South, east by
Smith Drive South, west by Carway and Hoffman.
Vote of the Board:
and Doyen.
Ayes: Messrs. Douglass, Grigonis, Tuthill
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2610. Upon application of Thomas
and Jacqueline Occhiogrosso, 77 Vanderbilt Boulevard, Oakdale, New
York (Irving L. Price, J~., Esq.) for a Variance to the Zoning Ordi-
nance with insufficient frontyard setback. Location of property:
Corey Creek Lane, Southold, New York; bounded north by Corey Creek
Lane, south by Corey Creek, west by Hammerschlag, east by Corey
Creek Lane.
The Acting Chairman opened the hearing at 7:52 P.M. by reading
the application for a Variance to the Zoning Ordinance, Article III,
Section 100-31 for permission to construct dwelling with insufficient
frontyard setback, reading the legal notice of hearing and affidavits
attesting to its. publication in the local and official newspapers,
Notice of Disapproval from the Building Inspector, and letter from
the Town Clerk that notification to adjoining property owners was
made to the Hammersch!ags and the'Ebelers; fee paid $15.00.
MR. DOUGLASS: I have a copy of the survey map of the property
and the situation where the house and the sewage, water and so on
will be. I also have a section of the County Tax Map which shows
the piece of property on it. I have a copy of the Town of Southold
Wetlands Permit #27 that was granted by the Town Board according to
information furnished in application =
June 15, 1979 to the Town Clerk. =39 filed by applicant on
~ Mr. Douglass read the Southold Town Wetlands Permit #27 in
~ull with all conditions. ,~'~'~- ~ 19O~'
SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD OF APPEALS
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Mr. Douglass read the New York State Department of Environmental
ConServation Tidal Wetlands Permit ~TW 15276-0186 A in full.
th permits are hereby made part of this record.
MR~DOUGLASS: Is there anyone who wishes to speak on behalf of
the appl~ants?
MR. IRVING PRICE: Irving L. Price, Jrt, attorney for the appli-
cants. After listel~ing to all those conditions in all those p~mits
I had the fe~ling I ought to raise my right hand and say "I ~ until
death do us p~t," but seriously, this is another one of the~e side-
yards which bec~me a frontyard because the road, in this c~'Se Corey
Creek Lane, is o~ two sides of Chis property, the front o~the back,
de~endinq upon which way you wanted to look at it. It'~on a dredged
ca'al, w~ic~ goes ~to ~orey Creek, and on the west s~de is bounded
by lot ~7 of the Su~iv~sion. The Chairman has very/kindly entered
into the record all o~ the permits and it would ser~ no purpose to
repeat them~ .There ~a~one other finding that s~ ~ld be part of the
record, that is the Env~onmental Impact Stat~me~ ~ that was filed
with the Town ~nd in.turn~he Town by resolut~o] ~ound that there was
no impact on the environment. The best repres [tion where this
house should be located is t~ survey that been fixed up by the
Department of Health, Suffolk~County of Health General
Engineering Services, and that _~hows that cesspools will be 100
feet from the dredged canal. The~ will 100 feet from the well
which will be installed in the nor' Their cesspools
will be 100 feet from a marsh
Lane from the house, and that corner
northwest corner, northeast rather
from the westerly line of Corey
'dimensions and distances from .use
as zoning. It's only the 35 fe~ when it
because it's surrounded by the road
9cared across Corey Creek
the house, the extreme
house will be 35 feet
~, and as I say the other
~1 be sufficient as far
considered a frontyard
less than the zoning
requirement. So the varianc~ just for the'~ideyard which unfor-
tunately is a frontyard in particular insurance. The exact
lo. cation as yo~ .have heard~ Chairman read wil.~b~e determined
f~rst by the Env~ronmenta Control and by the Bui~ing Inspector
enforcing the Wetla.nds ~ ,%it of the Town of Southo~d. And I'm
advised that the Bu~ld~ 3 Permit will not be issued ~ntil that
location has been set/ I respectfully request that th.e variance
be granted and or~ t~ grounds of hardship and the fact\.~that it is
not shared by the 9~her lots as stated in the application. If
there are any questions, I would be glad to answer them/\\~
MR. TUTHI~:--/ The dredgsdcanal that you are referring to is
the water fron/tage there?
MR. : Yes.
MR.~UTHILL: No, it runs into a dredged canal but that's
quite b~oad there. I never thought it was a canal.
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Mk. PRICE: It is a dredged canal. It's not natural.
R. DOUGLASS: That's right. Thank you, sir. Is there anybody