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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPB-10/03/1967Southold Town Planning Board SDUTHDLD, L. I., N. Y. 11g71 PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS John Wickham, Chairman Henry M~isa Alfred Grebe William Unkelbach M I N U,T'E S SOUTHOLD TOWN' PLANNING" BOARD October 3, 1967 A regular meeting of the Soutkid Town Planning Board was held at'7:30 P.M., Tuesday, October 3, 1967~ at-the Town Office, Main Road, Southold, New York. There were present: Messrs: John. Wickham~ Chairman; Henry'Moisa, WilliamUnkelbach, Frank~Coyle~ Alfred Grebe. Also present: Otto W. Van Tuyl, Consultant; Lawrence TuthilI, Construction Engineer. Lefferts P. Edson,-Esq. appea=ed'~efore the Board in regard to the waiving Of ~the performan:ce bondfor Peconic Homes, Section II, since the-road has been-completed. The chairman advised ~hat this'would need'the ~aPPr°Val.of-the Town Board in ~iew of ~e fact the araO.9~t of"the bond 'had been set'and acceptedby ~the'Town Board; Mr, Edson was advised that-when the Planning Board has. the letters of approval of the roadsfro~'Lawr~mce TUthill,'ConstructiOn~Enginmer, and Raymond Dead, Highway-Superintendent~ and these are accepted the:~own Board, themaps could be siqned. $outhold Town P~anning Board -2- October 3, 1967 On motinn by'Mr. Coyle, seconded by'Mr. Grebe, it was RESOLVED the'Chairman of the Southold Town Planning Board be authorized to sign the final subdivision maps of Peconic Homes, Section II, located at Peconic, New York, owned and developed by Henry J. Smith, when the letters of approval of the roads from. Lawrence Tuthill, and Raymond Dean are in the files of the'Planning Board, and when said approvals are accepted by the Southold Town Board. Vote of the Board~- Ayes:- Mr. Wickham, Mr. Moisa, Mr. Unkelbach, Mr.~ Coyle, Mr. Grebe. Mr. George Barzac, Jr., appeared before the Planning Board with a sketch plan for~a subdivision located on the east side Boisseau Avenue, Southold, New York. The area involved' in this plan is approximately 12 acres. The map showed an area of the property.not included in the subdivision plan. Mr. Barzac felt this was not suitable for residence since it was adjoining Cassidy property~ however if the Planning Board'felt this should be included it could be done. The sketch plan showed 18 lots. The Planning Board does not like to see an oversize lot left over because at some future date someone might want to divide the property into two lots and there would be a problem of access to the second lot. It was suggested that'the park area be-enlarged so that an oversized lot is notleft. ~Mr. Van Tuyl showed-and overall plan of the adjoining properties, indicating aceess to Sawicki's property and Moffat's property. Mr. Barzac was advised that he should file a preliminary application for the iproperty under question. Mr. Barzac stated he w~uld like to,art building a~speculation house on one of the lots faclng, Boisseau Avenue. The~ Board advisedthat nothing shQuld'beconstructed until more definit lot lines are established. The Southold town Planning Board received from the Southold Town Board the original petition of Helmut Hass of North Road, Greenport, New York, relative to a change of zone from "A" Residential and Agricultural District to "B" Business District on certain property situated in Peconic, New York, with the instructions to prepare and official report and define the conditions described therein. Southolld' Town Planning Board -3- October 3~ 1967 This property is descxibed as follows: Ail that'certain peice or~arcel of land si.t~uated at Peconic in the Town of~Southold, SuffOlk County, New York and more particularly bounded and described as follows: BEGINNING at a point'on the southerly line of Middle Road, as~widened, at the northeasterly corner of land of the~wW~ party of the first part, said point of beginning being about 1400 feet easterly along said southerly line from'Carroll Avenue; from said point of beginning running along land of~Charles Hubbard and along land of Suffolk CountY, $. 23° 53' 30" E.- 437.10 feet; thence along land of t~e party of the first part, two courses as fDllows: ~1) S. 58° 30' 30" W.- 100.29..feet; thence (2) N. 23° 53' 30" W.- 439.53 feet to said southerly line of Middle Road (as widened); thence northeasterly along said south- erly line on a curve to the left, having a radius of 5789.58 feet, a distance of 100.0 feet to the point of beginning, containing 1.00 acre. The Board held a lenghty discussion on the property in question. It was felt this woul~ be spo~ zoning;and the fact-that ~property adjoins Long Island Railroad property, characterized as Industrial property, should not be andetermining factor in view of the fact the Long Island Railroad is a special franchise. The Beard looked at'the maps showing what the County was taken for the widening of County'Road 27. On motion by Mr. Moisa, seconded by Mr. Grebe, it was RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board does not favorably recommend to the Southold Town Board the change of zone from "A" Residential and Agricultural District to "B" Business District on the above described property. The Planning Board is not willing tb recommend a business zone on the south side of'County Road $27, even under the circumstances described in the petition. It is thePlanning Board's feeling that County'Road 27 should be maintained as a high-spDed arterial without business build-up except'in areas such as Mattituck, Southold, and in the ~m~%ediate vicinity of Peconic Lane, Peconic. As a matter of fact, Mr. Clarke, who lives on the north side of County Road $27, about-where this property is located, presented a request for a business zone some time ago and we refused to recommend that. Regardless of the spot Southold Town Planning Board -4- October 3, 1967 zoning question, if a small business zone is established in this vicinity, we can logically'expect a tremendous expanded business area adjacent to this within two or-three years. Vote ofthe Board: Ayes:- Fir. Wickham, Mr. Moisa, ~r. ~Unkelbach, Mr. Grebe. Fir. Coyle abstained from voting. The Southold Town Planning Board received from the To~n Board the oziginal petition of John Geieri North Road, Greenport~ New'York, relative to a change;of zone from "A" Residential and Agricultural Districtto "B" Business District, on certain property situated at Greenport, New York, with the instructions to prepare an official reportdefining 'the conditions described therein. This property is described as follows: All that certain tract, piece, or parcel of'land situated at Greenport, Town of Southold, County'of Suffolk, State of Nz~ York, and more particularly bounded and described as follows: BEGINNING at a point on the southerly'side of Middle Road ~.R.'127) North Road,~ where the same is intersected by the westerly"side of land now or formerly'of Village~of'Green- port, which'-point is distant~ 350.68 feet westerly fromthe corner formed by the intersection Of the .southerly side-of said Middle Road with the westerly side of Moore's Lane, and from said point ofbeginning., running thence along said'land south 4° 01' 10" east, 1106.60 feet; running thence still along said land smth 84° 53' 30"'west, 474..24 feet; running thence still alon~.said land north.4° 06' 10" west-830.~50 feet-to the southerly side ofsaid Middle Road ; running thence along the southerly side of said Middle Road north 55° 01' 10" east, 554.24 feet to the point or place of bdginning. The Board briefly discussed this application. $oUthold Town Planning Board --5- October 3, 1967 On motion by Mr. Unkelbach, seconded by Mr. Moisa, it was RESOLVED t~at the Southold Town Planning Board does not favorably'recommend to the Southold Town Boardthe change of zone from "A" Residential and Agricultural Districtto "B" B,~ness propertyon the above described property. The Planning Board is unwilling to recommend this change fof zon~ because the application is for the wrong zoning for the type of business intended. This change w~uld constitute spot zoning, and the~Planning Board feels the parcel in question is too large to be considered under this application. Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Wickham, Mr~ Moisa, Mr. Unkelbach, Fir. Coyle, Mr. Grebe. The Planning Board received from the Town'Board the original petition of Benson~S. Telsey, Greenport, New Yo~ relative to a change .of zone from "A" Residential and Agricultural District to "B" Business'District on certain real property situated at Greenport, New York, and are instructed to prepare an official report defining the conditions described therein/ This property is described as follows: Ail that certain tract, piece, or parcel, of land situated at Greenport in the Town of Southold, County of Suffolk, and State of New York, and more particularly bounded and describe~ as follows: BEGINNING at a monument on the northerlyline of NortNm Road, adjoining land of'the Village of Greenport; from said point of'beginning running along said land of the Village of Greenport three courses : ('1) north 33° 47~ 30" west, 373.04 feet to a monument; thence (2) north 4° 23' 20" east, 154.46 feet to a monument; thence (3) north 5° 46' 10" east, 114.80 feet to a monument; thence along land of H.J.$.. Land and Development. Corp., three courses: (1) south 85°12'50" east, 92.12 feet; thence south 18° 51' 20" east 356..15 feet; thence (3) south 37° 59' 20" east'167.82 feet to a monument on said northerly line of North Road; thence along~said northerly line two courses: (1) south 51° 17' 40" west, 157.10 feet; thence (2) south 52° 37' 20" west, 5 feet to the point or placeof beginning, containing 2.03 acres. Southold Town Planning Board -6- October 3~ 1967 On motion by Mr. Moisa, seconded by Mr. Unkelbach, it was RESOLVED that the Southold Town PlanningBoard does not favorably recommend to ~he~Southold Town Board thechangeof zone from "A" Residential and'Agricultural District to "B" Bu,~iness District on the above described property. The Planning Bc~rd is of the opinion itwould be a mistake to establish a business zone adjoining the property of the ~illage of Greenport, and the residen~ally zoned property. This, of course, would be spot'zoning. The Planning Board also points out that't~e County Road will probably~be subject~to ~ide~gat some future date in this particular area. Uote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Wickham, Mr. Moisa, Mr. Unkelbach, Mr. Co,lc, Mr. Grebe. The Southold Town Planning Board receivedfrom the Southold Town Board the o~ginal petition of Irving L. Price, Jr., of 238 Main-Street, Greenport, New York,;felative to Sealshipt Corp- oratiOn's requestfor a change of zone from-"A" Residential and Agricultural District to "C" Industrial District, With the instructions to prepare an official report defining the conditions contained in the petition. This property is desc~ibed as .follows: All that certain tract, piece, or parcel of land situate, lying and being at Greenport, in the Town of Southold, Countyof Suffolk, and State of New York, and more particularly bounded and described as follows: BEGINNING at the intersection of the west boundary line of the Village of Greenport~where the same intersects the north- erly line ofthese and other premises of Sealshipt Corp; thence S. 64° 15' 30" W. 183.37 feet; thence southerly 15 feet, more or less~ to ordinary high water mark ofPeconic Bay~ thence easterly along said high watermark 40 feet, more or less, thence southerly along a bulkhead79 feet, more or-less; thence along a bulkhead T~145 feet, more or less, to the corner, of said bulkhead; thence northeasterly 75 feet, more or less~ to the south boundary line of the Village of Greenport; thence northwesterly along the said boundary line of the Billage of ~la.nning Southold Town/Board -7- October 3, 1967 Greenport to the aforementioned west boundary line of the 'Village of Greenportl thence northerly a-long'.~he said west boundary line of'the Village_ of Greenport to the point.of beginning, On motion by Fir. Moisa, seconded by Mr. Unkelbach, it-was RESOLVED that the'Southold Town Planning Board does favorablyrecommend to the Southold Town Board the~change ~ofZone from "A" Residential a~ndAgricultuKal Dist=ict to "C" Industrial District on the above described property, The Board agrees with the reasons for a ch~ge of zone as presented in the petition. Vote of the Board: Ayes: - Mr. Wickham, Mr. Moisa, Mr. Unkelbach, Mr. Coyle, Mr. Grebe. Mr.~ Lawrence Tuthill, P.E. , Construction Engineer, presented the following letter to the Southold .Town Planning Board: "Southold Town Planning Board, Somthold, New York, October 3, 1967." "RE~ Peconic Homes, Section II "Gentlemen:-I have inspected the roads of Peconic Homes, Section II and have found them to meet the specifi~atioh of the Planning Board. "Respectfully submitted, /s/ Lawrence M. Tuthill." On motion'by'Mr. Moisa, -seconded by Mr. Unkelbach, it was RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board =ecommend to the Southold Town Board that the Bond for-the roads in Peconic Homes.,-Section II, Peconic, New York, owned and developed by Henry'Smith, be waived. Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Wickham, Mr. Moisa, Mr. Unkelbach, Mr. Coyle, Mr. ~rebe. Southold Town ' Planning Board -8- October 3, 1967 On motion by Mr.- Coyle, seconded by' Mr. Unkelbach, it was RESOLVED that Henry Moisa be known as the official vice- Chairman of the' Southold Town Planning Board. Ayes:- Mr. Wickham, Mr. Unkelbach, Mr.~e~e, Mr. Coyle. Mr. Lawrence Tuthill, P.E., Construction Engineer presented the following letter to the Planning Board: "Southold Town Planning Board, Southold, New York, October 3, 1967. "Re: Fordham Acres Sec. II "Gentlemen: I have inspected the roads of Fordham Acres Sec. II and have found them to meet the specifications of the Planning Board. "Respectfully s~bmitted, /s/ Lawrence M. Tuthill." On motion by Mr, unkelbach, seconded by Mr. Moisa, it was RESOLVED that the Southold TownI Planning Board recommed to the Southold Town Board that they release the performance bond on Fordham Acres, Section II, Greenport, New York, owned a nd developed by Ruth Preston, and Others, subject to receiving a letter of approval from the Superintendent of Highways. Vote of'the Board: Ayes.:- Mr. Wickham, Mr. Moisa, Mr. Unkelbach, Mr. Coyle, Mr. Grebe. On motion by Mr. unkelbach, seconded by Mr. Coyle, it was RESOLVED that the minutes of the~ Southold Town Planning Board ~ated September 6, 1967, be approved as submitted. Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr.. Wickham, Mr. Moisa, Mr. Unkelbach,. Mr,- ~le, Mr. Grebe. Southold Town Planning Board -9- October 3, 1967 Mr. Grebe ~resented a map of land located on Fishers Island, New York, known as the Pennisula. There is an existing temporary road shown on themap. There was~a question of access to certain, lots. The present owner of the property, Fir. Elbert Burr, wishes to sell off lots in this area. The following letter was written~to Mr. Burr: Dear Mr. Burr: The Planning Board has looked over your~map of the Penninsula, Fishers Island, New York, dated 1913~ revised October, 1951; revised July, 1953; and revised September 1967. The Board has determined that this map is so obsolete that a new map must be filed before any further division of land is made. All lots will have to have frontage of at least 100 feet on the access road and meet the minimum area requirements. (12,500 square feet~with adequate public water, or,20,000 square feet without public water). All roads mustbe cleared and improved at least to 20 feet wide, possible wider depen4ing on the final number of lots involved. The New YorkState Real Property ~aw requires the filing of a map prior to the sale of lots, and the Town of'Southotd has justrevised their Rules and Regulations for the Subdivision of Lan~. All property division and sales from October 1, 1967, are subject to these requirements. No building permits wiltbe issued without this approval. In the Matter of M_r. Burnham's lot, the Board recognizes prior ownership and will recommend ~hat the Board of Appeals handle the approval of access to this single lot under the provisions of'the New York State Town Law, Section 280A, with a mininum road width of 20 feet, cleared and graded. Mr. Van' Tuyl presented a revised subdivision plan for RichardA.. Sheldon, Louis Ferretti, and Will amJessup on property located on east side'Cox Lane, Cutchogue, New York. This plan was very briefly diseussed, No action was taken on the matter. Southold Town Blanning Board -10- October 3, 1967 A plan for George Ahler's subdivision, was briefly discussed and no action .was taken on the matter. Mr. Van~Tuyl showed a sketch plan for subdivision of property behind GardinersBay Estates, on Orchard Lane, East Marion, New York. The Board D~iefly discussed this plan. It was determined that any roads cut in wou~have to be at least 50 feet-wide.. The next regular meeting of the $outhold Town Planning Board-will be held at 7:30 P.M., Thursday, November 2, 1967, at the Town office, Main Road, $o~thold, New York. The meeting was ad3ourned at 10:00 P.E. Respectfully submitted, Barbara C. Dittmann, Secretary South01d Town Planning Board JOHN -WICKHAM, CPL~ IRMAN SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD