HomeMy WebLinkAboutPB-01/09/2012PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS
DONALD J. WlLCENSKI
Chair
WILLIAM J. CREMERS
KENNETH L. EDWARDS
JAMES H. RICH III
MARTIN H. SIDOR
PLANNING BOARD OFFICE
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
PUBLIC MEETING MINUTES
Monday, January 9, 2012
4:30 p.m.
MAILING ADDRESS:
P.O. Box 1179
Southold, NY 11971
OFFICE LOCATION:
Town Hall Annex
54375 State Route 25
(cor. Main Rd. & Youngs Ave.)
Southold, NY
Telephone: 631 765-1938
Fax: 631 765-3136
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Southold Town Cleric
Present were:
Donald J. Wilcenski, Chair
William J. Cremers, Member
Kenneth L. Edwards, Member
James H. Rich III, Member
Martin H. Sidor, Member
Heather Lanza, Planning Director
Bdan Cummings, Planner
Alyxandra Sabatino, Planner
Carol Kalin, Secretary
SETTING OF THE NEXT PLANNING BOARD MEETING
Donald Wilcenski: Good evening, and welcome to the regularly-scheduled Southold
Town Planning Board Meeting. Our first order of business is to set the next Planning
Board Meeting for Monday, February 6, 2012 at 4:30 p.m. at the Southold Town Hall,
Main Road, Southold, as the time and place for the next regular Planning Board Public
Meeting.
William Cremers: So moved.
Martin Sidor: Second.
Donald Wilcenski: Motion made and seconded. Any discussion? All in favor?.
Ayes.
Donald Wilcenski: Motion carries.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
4:30 p.m. - MetroPCS NY at Jun.qe - This amended site plan is for a proposed 8' 6"
pole extension to co-locate a wireless communication facility of 6 antennas (2 per
sector) on an existing 100' 5" monopole, and install related base equipment in the LI
Zoning District. The property is located at 21855 CR 48, +800' w/o Cox Lane,
Cutchogue. SCTM#1000-96-1-19.1
Donald Wilcenski: At this time, I ask anyone in the audience to step up who would like
to address the Planning Board regarding this application, please step forward to either
microphone, state your name and address and write your name and address on the
paper provided for the record.
John Couqhlin, Esq.I ReI Nielsen, Huber & Cou,qhlin, 36 North New York AvenueI
Huntinqton, NY, on behalf of the applicant, MetroPCS NY, LLC: Good afternoon, Mr.
Chairman and members of the Board. As just summarized, MetroPCS proposes an
extension of the existing monopole at the Junge property, 21855 County Road 48.
MetroPCS is licensed by the FCC to construct, maintain and operate public utility
wireless telecommunication systems in Suffolk County and throughout New York and is
considered a public utility for zoning purposes. Pursuant to its licenses, MetroPCS
strives to provide reliable services in the areas where it has licenses. At present,
MetroPCS is unable to provide reliable service in the vicinity of the proposed facility.
This proposal extending the existing monopole will allow MetroPCS to provide that
reliable service that they are obligated to provide under their licensure. MetroPCS, as
are the other carriers that are already located on the monopole, provides services that
are extremely important, especially in times or in places of emergency when traditional
land lines may not be available. As with the existing facilities that are on the premises,
the site will be unmanned. It will be remotely monitored 24 hours a day, 365 days a
year or 366 in leap years. There will only be a site visit approximately once every 4-6
weeks; there will be minimal impact on site circulation traffic and those other
considerations. Additionally, as required by the FCC, MetroPCS has undertaken an
analysis to make sure that the proposed facility will be compliant with FCC regulations
about emissions from the facility. That study has been done and submitted to the
Board. We have a witness here who can speak to that if there are any questions.
Having demonstrated compliance with the appropriate regulation, the
Telecommunications Act prohibits the Board from considering any health or
environmental effects of the proposed facility. I have some individuals here this
evening who can explain to the Board why the proposed facility is ideal from an
engineering standpoint, from a planning standpoint, and how there is no impact on real
estate values. A lot of material has already been submitted to the Board. I have a few
more things that I would like to hand up and also to introduce the witnesses who are
available this afternoon, but I would also like to point out that the Wireless Code that
the Town has adopted and modified over the last 2+ years strongly encourages this
type of proposal. An extension is favored over the construction of a new facility; an
extension of 10' or less is favored under the Code. MetroPCS has gone back to the
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drawing board so to speak several times to try and come up with the proposal that most
closely satisfies Town's criteria as well as serving to satisfy the need for the facility in
the area. With that introduction, let me tell you who is here this afternoon: Bob Toms,
who is a professional engineer from MTM (Design Group, Inc.)-- the group that
prepared the drawings that underlie the application--he is also the author of a letter
that was filed with the Board last week that speaks to some of the engineering and
design concerns that were raised in earlier work sessions. Additionally, Dave
Karlebach is here: he is a Planner. Dave is available to testify that the proposal, if
approved, would not result in substantial changes to the physical characteristics of the
area. Mr. Karlebach has prepared a Planning Report; it's not part of the record yet, but
I'd like to hand that up. Actually, before I do that, the next witness is Mike Lynch. He's
a licensed real estate appraiser. He is available to testify giving his expert opinion that
the proposal, if approved, would not have an impact on real estate values. Mr. Lynch
has also prepared a report, so I'll hand these two documents up now. Additionally,
Dave Karlebach is an FCC-compliant and radio frequency engineering emissions
expert. He is the individual I spoke of a moment ago who prepared the analysis
demonstrating that the proposal is fully compliant with FCC regulations. His report,
which is in the record, analyzes all the existing facilities--those of AT&T, Nextel, T-
Mobile and Verizon, as well as the proposed MetroPCS facility. Again, this report
concludes that the facility will be well within (inaudible) FCC limits. Specifically, the
report finds--assuming a 100% threshold--the calculation that the facility would be just
over 2% of the FCC limit-almost 50X below the standard that the FCC has set. Finally,
(inaudible) is here, he's a radio frequency engineer and he is available to discuss the
need from an engineering standpoint for the facility and discuss the coverage that the
proposed facility would provide. I know there's a lot of material that has been
introduced. I'm not sure if the Board would like me to have each of these individuals
come up and tell you a little bit about what they have prepared and their findings or if
you would prefer to pose questions. Since this application has been in front of the
Board at least in work session multiple times, I leave it to the Board's discretion as to
how you wish to proceed.
Donald Wilcenski: I'll ask the Board members: does anybody have any questions for
any of the representatives? Heather?
Heather Lanza: John, I have a question. Do you know the antennas that were put up
on the Penny Lumber pole? They were flush-mounted. I was just wondering if
someone could address why you wouldn't or couldn't do that here.
John Cou,qhlin: Yes, I think that was a consideration that was discussed in the earliest
pre-application conference that my office had with Planning staff. The flush mounting
of the antennas by nature of what is proposed was contemplated but it would require a
higher mount so that Metro could affix as many antennas. You can't flush-mount six
antennas all at the same height. So, when it was discussed with you and Brian's
predecessor, the determination was made that the Board would probably favor a lesser
extension with the antennas mounted in a consistent fashion with what is already
existing on the pole as opposed to a flush mount which might need to at least add five
or six feet more to the extension than is already proposed. Mr. Karlebach is here--the
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Planner--and the photo simulations that the Board already has. I think Dave's
opinion--I could let him speak a little bit more that it's also more visually consistent with
the existing structure and therefore more likely blends. Dave, do you want to come up?
Donald Wilcenski: I think we have the pictures that you have on the poster?
David Karlebach, 38 East Rid.qewood Avenue, Rid.qewood, NJ: Those are the same
photographs. I did personally prepare that report. I did not prepare the photo
simulations that are appended to the report, but I did have a chance to review them and
I do believe them to be correct and accurate. I agree with the assessment that visually
these are very much consistent and compatible with the existing antennas at the site.
The antennas actually appear to be smaller than many of the antennas. These
antennas are roughly 6-1/4" wide by 4-1/2' tall. I know there are antennas out there that
are much wider. As I am looking at those photographs and I determine the field, they
are rather small compared to some of the antennas at the site. Visually, I do think it's
probably preferable not to increase the height of the tower by more than 8-1/2' and to
keep what I'm going to call the side-arm mount design that supports all six antennas at
one height rather than at various locations on the pole using multiple heights. I think
the photo simulations speak for themselves. It's very difficult to discern the difference
between the existing conditions and the proposed development, particularly at those
locations further away from the site. Residents and passers-by are already acclimated
to the presence of a very tall structure at this location and I don't believe the addition of
six antennas is going to change their perception of the site in any way. I don't believe
the visual quality of the site changes by virtue of this proposal, and I don't believe it
causes any harm to the neighborhood whatsoever. Finally, the only other alternative
would be a new single-use tower in this general vicinity. Of course, from a Planner's
perspective, that's much worse and would have a far greater effect on the community.
As the attorney said at the onset, this is exactly the type of proposal that the audience
envisions: an extension of less than 10' collocating using the existing structure. It
advances all the purposes of the wireless ordinance and I think is a very fine
application. It's about the least intrusive method that this provider can use in order to
provide service into this area.
Donald Wilcenski: Thank you. Does anyone else from the Board have any questions
or is there anyone in the audience who would like to speak on this application?
Heather Lanza: I have one more question. John, you said that something was recently
submitted addressing the gap again? If we have it all in writing, that's fine.
John Cou.qhlin: Yes. The submission that was made on the 29th included a letter from
Bob Toms, PE, talking about the feasibility of locating.., you have the pictures that I
think identify (inaudible) at least one viewpoint zoomed in of that space in between
Verizon and T-Mobile included with Mr. Toms letter. If you'd like to hear from Bob, he
can give you his opinion as to why it wouldn't be feasible to locate in that space. But
the letter I believe speaks for itself. Additionally, there is a supplemental affidavit that
assumes it is feasible to locate in that spot. Even if it were, the engineer concluded that
the loss in coverage moving down from the 111' center line down to 96 or 97' is a
substantial amount of loss of coverage. The numbers that are included in the affidavits
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that were submitted are as follows: "assuming feasibility locating the facility at 96'
would provide approximately 2.129 sq. mi. of reliable coverage at -85 dbms, which is
MetroPCS' in-building coverage level. This proposal--the one that MetroPCS
(inaudible)--would provide 3.183 sq. mi. of reliable coverage at that level. The
proposed extension, therefore, provides an additional 1.054 sq. mi. of coverage. The
engineer esteems that one square mile is a significant difference. Therefore, even if
that space were feasible and available, it would not provide MetroPCS with the
coverage that it needs. Yes, that's part of the December 29th packet.
Heather Lanza: Thank you.
Donald Wilcenski: Thank you. Does anyone else have any questions for the
representatives or PCS? Does anybody from the audience have anything to add to this
public hearing? Hearing none, a motion, please?
William Cremers: I make a motion to close the hearing.
James Rich: Second.
Donald Wilcenski: Motion made and seconded. Any discussion? All in favor?
Ayes.
Donald Wilcenski: Motion carries. Thank you very much, gentlemen, for coming.
SET HEARINGS
Currie, Lawrence - This proposed lot line modification transfers 0.67 acres from
SCTM#1000-59-6-19.2 to SCTM#1000-59-6-18.1 and SCTM#1000-59-6-19.1.
SCTM#1000-59-6-19.2 decreases in size from 0.67 acres to 0.00 acres; SCTM#1000-
59-6-18.1 increases from 0.27 acres to 0.67 acres, and SCTM#1000-59-6-19.1
increases from 0.24 acres to 0.51 acres. The property is located at 8415 Soundview
Avenue, +/- 101.85' n/e of Kenny's Road in Southold.
Kenneth Edwards: Mr. Chairman, I will offer the following resolution:
WHEREAS, on June 30, 2011, the agent, Robert Barratt, PE., submitted an application
for a Lot Line Modification on behalf of the owner, Lawrence Currie, Jr.; and
WHEREAS, this proposed Lot Line Modification transfers 0.67 acres from SCTM#1000-
59-6-19.2 to SCTM#1000-59-6-18.1 and SCTM#1000-59-6-19.1. SCTM#1000-59-6-
19.2 decreases in size from 0.67 acres to 0.00 acres; SCTM#1000-59-6-18.1 increases
from 0.27 acres to 0.67 acres and SCTM#1000-59-6-19.1 increases from 0.24 acres to
0.51 acres; be it therefore
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RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board sets Monday, February 6, 2012
at 4:30 p.m. for a public hearing regarding the map dated May 25, 2011, last revised
October 18, 2011, prepared by Robert Barratt, PE.
James Rich: Second.
Donald Wilcenski: Motion made and seconded. Any discussion? All in favor?
Ayes.
Donald Wilcenski: Any opposed? Motion carries.
SparklinR Pointe Winery Addition - This proposed amendment to a site plan is for the
addition of a 12'4" x 21'4" office along with the enclosure of an existing 56' x 50'6" area
that currently operates as a paved outdoor crushing area and the addition of a 23'6" X
50'6" covered crushing pad, all for employee access only, to the existing tasting room
site of Sparkling Pointe Winery on a 12.088-acre parcel in the A-C Zoning District. The
property is located at 39750 CR 48, +682' e/o Ackerly Pond Lane and CR 48, Southold.
SCTM#1000-59-10-1
James Rich II1: Mr. Chairman, I will offer the following resolution:
WHEREAS, on November 29, 2011, the agent, Nancy Steelman, RA, submitted an
application for an amended site plan on behalf of the applicant; and
WHEREAS, this proposed amendment to a site plan is for the addition of a 12'4" x 21'4"
office along with the enclosure of an existing 56' x 50'6" area that currently operates as
a paved outdoor crushing area and the addition of a 23'6" x 50'6" covered crushing pad,
all for employee access only, to the existing tasting room site of Sparkling Pointe
Winery on a 12.088 acre parcel in the A-C Zoning District, Southold; be it therefore
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board sets Monday, February 6, 2012
at 4:32 p.m. for a public hearing regarding the amended site plan dated November
23, 2011, prepared by Samuels & Steelman Architects.
William Cremers: Second the motion.
Donald Wilcenski: Motion made and seconded. Any discussion? All in favor?
Ayes.
Donald Wilcenski: Any opposed? Motion carries.
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Guadaqno, Patrick - This proposal is for a standard subdivision of a 10-acre parcel
into two lots where Lot 1 is 1.5 acres and Lot 2 is 8.5 acres inclusive of a 2.5-acre
building envelope and six acres of subdivision open space. The property is located at
2195 Orchard Street, on the n/s/o Orchard Street, approximately 1,008' w/o Platt Road
in Orient. SCTM#1000-27-1-2
Martin Sidor: WHEREAS, on June 23, 2009, the agent, Scott Dobriner, Senior
Environmental Planner, submitted an application for a standard subdivision on behalf of
the owner, Patrick Guadagno; and
WHEREAS, this proposal is for a standard subdivision of a 10-acre parcel into two lots
where Lot I is 1.5 acres and Lot 2 is 8.5 acres inclusive of a 2.5-acre building envelope
and six acres of subdivision open space; be it therefore
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board sets Monday, February 6, 2012
at 4:34 p.m. for a final public hearing regarding the map dated December 8, 2005
last revised December 7, 2011 prepared by John C. Ehlers, Land Surveyor.
William Cremers: Second.
Donald Wilcenski: Motion made and seconded. Any discussion? All in favor?
Ayes.
Donald Wilcenski: Opposed? Motion carries.
APPROVAL EXTENSIONS
Latham~ Edward - This is a proposed clustered conservation subdivision of a 127-acre
parcel into 2 lots where Lot 1 would equal 124.05 acres of which Development Rights
have been sold for 114 acres for agricultural uses only, and the remaining 10.05 acres
will be restricted to agricultural use and is improved with agricultural buildings; and Lot 2
is equal to 2.95 acres and is improved with a single-family residence and garage in the
R-200 Zoning District. The property is located at 31900 Main Road, Orient.
SCTM#1000-19-1-7.4
William Cremers: WHEREAS, this proposed standard subdivision will subdivide a 127-
acre parcel into two lots where Lot 1 would equal 124.05 acres of which Development
Rights have been sold for 114 acres and is improved with agricultural buildings and Lot
2 is equal to 2.95 acres and is improved with a single-family residence and garage in
the R-200 Zoning District; and
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WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board granted Sketch Approval on July 13,
2009 upon the map entitled "Survey of Property Situate: Orient" dated November 19,
2006 prepared by John C. Ehlers, Land Surveyor; and
WHEREAS, on January 6, 2010, the applicant submitted a request to the Southold
Town Planning Board requesting a six-month Extension of Sketch Plan Approval
granted on July 13, 2009 because survey work is still being prepared; and
WHEREAS, Sketch Plan Approval expired on January 15, 2010; and
WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board granted a six-month Extension of
Sketch Plan Approval from January 15, 2010 to July 13, 2010 upon the map entitled
"Survey of Property Situate: Orient" dated November 19, 2006 prepared by John C.
Ehlers, Land Surveyor, as permitted by Southold Town Code §240-14; and
WHEREAS, Sketch Plan Approval expired on July 13, 2010; and
WHEREAS, on July 11,2011, the applicant requested an Extension of Sketch Plan
Approval to allow the applicant to address Health Department regulations; and
WHEREAS, on October 17, 2011, the Southold Town Planning Board granted an
Extension of Sketch Plan Approval through January 13, 2012; and
WHEREAS, on December 21,2011, the applicant requested an Extension of Sketch
Plan Approval to allow the applicant to address their pending Heath Department
application; be it therefore
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board hereby grants an Extension of
Sketch Plan Approval through July 9, 2012 upon the map entitled "Survey of
Property Situate: Orient" dated November 19, 2006 prepared by John C. Ehlers, Land
Surveyor, as permitted by Southold Town Code §240-14.
Martin Sidor: Second.
Donald Wilcenski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions? All in favor?
Ayes.
Donald Wilcenski: Motion carries.
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SITE PLAN DETERMINATIONS
North Fork Sanitation - This site plan is for a transfer station for construction
demolition, scrap metal, damaged cars; dismantling with shipping off-site, refrigerators,
stoves, wood, aluminum; parking of sanitation trucks, trucks, cars and dumpsters. The
property is located at 8475 Cox Lane, Cutchogue. SCTM#1000-83-3-4.7
Kenneth Edwards: Mr. Chairman, I will offer the following resolution:
WHEREAS, this site plan is for a proposed transfer station for construction demolition,
scrap metal, damaged cars; dismantling with shipping off site, refrigerators, stoves,
wood, aluminum; parking of sanitation trucks, trucks, cars and dumpsters; and
WHEREAS, on February 27, 1995, the applicant submitted an application for site plan
review; and
WHEREAS, on April 10, 1995, the Southold Town Planning Board, pursuant to the
State Environmental Quality Review (SEQR), (Article 8), Part 617, declared itself lead
agency and issued a Negative Declaration; and
WHEREAS, on September 5, 1995, the Southold Town Planning Board, pursuant to
Southold Town Code §280-131 C., distributed the application to the required agencies
for their comments; and
WHEREAS, on September 12, 1995, the Southold Town Planning Board granted
Conditional Final Approval on the surveys dated April 13, 1995, conditions to be met:
(1) Applicant must comply with recommendation of Cutchogue Fire Department, (2)
Applicant must comply with recommendations of the Town Engineering Inspector as to
drainage provisions, and (3) Applicant shall fence the property and install a sign at the
entrance to indicate hours of operation and types of waste accepted and not accepted
at the facility; and
WHEREAS, on January 5, 2011, the Southold Town Engineer, Chief Building Inspector
and Planning Staff reviewed the expired site plan for Final Approval in connection with
the Conditional Final Approval originally granted. The Applicant had satisfied the
conditions of the Cutchogue Fire Department and appropriate sign and fence
installation; it was determined that additional information regarding drainage provisions
was necessary to satisfy the conditions of approval; and
WHEREAS, on December 6,2011, the Southold Town Engineer reviewed the above-
referenced application and has determined the project to provide adequate drainage
and the proposed drainage meets the minimum requirements of Chapter 236 for Storm
Water Management; and
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WHEREAS, at a Work Session held on December 12,2011, the Planning Board found
that all applicable requirements of the Site Plan Regulations Article XXIV, §280 - Site
Plan Approval of the Town of Southold have been met; be it therefore
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board grants Approval to the site plan
entitled "North Fork Recycling" prepared by Sherman Engineering & Consulting, P.C. on
September 27,2011, last revised October 18, 2011, and authorizes the Chairman to
endorse the site plan.
William Cremers: Second.
Donald Wilcenski: Motion made and seconded. Any discussion?
James Rich: Mr. Chairman, I wish to recuse myself from this vote.
Donald Wilcenski: Jim Rich is recusing himself from this vote. With that said, all in
favor?
William Cremers, Kenneth Edwards, Martin Sidor: Aye.
Donald Wilcenski: Motion carries.
OTHER
Plannin.q Board Vice-Chairman
Donald Wilcenski: At this time I'd like to ask for a motion to appoint Jim Rich Vice-
Chairman for the year 2012.
William Cremers: So moved.
Martin Sidor: Second.
Donald Wilcenski: Motion made and seconded. All in favor?
Ayes.
Donald Wilcenski: Motion carries.
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APPROVAL OF PLANNING BOARD MINUTES
Donald Wilcenski: Also, I would like a motion to approve the Planning Board minutes of
December 12, 20'11 and December 19, 20'1'1.
William Cremers: So moved.
Kenneth Edwards: Second.
Donald Wilcenski: Motion made and seconded. Any discussion? All in favor?
Ayes.
Donald Wilcenski: Motion carries. Does anyone on the Planning Board wish to add
'.~ything to the minutes?
William Cremers: I would like to wish Ken Edwards a happy birthday; his birthday is
tomorrow.
Donald Wilcenski: Happy Birthday, Ken. I would also like to on the record thank Martin
Sidor for all his hard work and time and effort in showing me my way on the Planning
Board and helping me out and gaining a friendship through it.
Martin Sidor: Thank you and good luck.
Donald Wilcenski: Thank you. I need a motion for adjournment.
Martin Sidor: So moved.
William Cremers: Second.
Donald Wilcenski: Motion made and seconded. All in favor?
Ayes.
Donald Wilcenski: Motion carries. This meeting is adjourned.
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There being no further business to come before the meeting, it was ADJOURNED at
4:55 p.m.
(~nald J. ?.~ilcenski, Chair
Respectfully submitted,
Linda Randolph,"fT~nscribirfg SecreTary
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