HomeMy WebLinkAboutTB-08/16/2011ELIZABETH A. NEVILLE
T O'vVN CLERK
REGISTRAR OF VITAL STATISTICS
MARRIAGE OFFICER
RECORDS MANAGEMENT OFFICER
FREEDOM OF INFORMATION OFFICER
OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERK
SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD
REGULAR MEETING
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
PO Box 1179
Southold, NY 11971
Fax (631) 765-6145
Telephone: (631) 765 - 1800
southoldtown.northfork.net
MINUTES
August 16, 2011
4:30 PM
A Regular Meeting of the Southold Town Board was held Tuesday, August 16, 2011 at the
Meeting Hall, 53095 Main Road, Southold, NY. Supervisor Russell opened the meeting at 4:30
PM with the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.
Call to Order
4:30 PM Meeting called to order on August 16, 2011 at Meeting Hall, 53095 Route 25,
$outhold, NY.
I. Reports
1. Program for the Disabled
2. Budget
3. Justice Louisa Evans
4. Justice William Price
5. Trustees Monthly Report
6. Zoning Inspector
7. Justice Rudolph H. Bruer
8. Zoning Board of Appeals
9. Department of Public Works
10. Human Resource Center Monthly Report
11. Planning Board Monthly Report
II. Public Notices
NYS Liquor License Renewals
III. Communications
IV. Discussion
1. 9:00 A.M. - Ken Reeves, Parks & Rec
2. 9:30 A.M. - Jim Bunchuck
3. 10:00 A.M. - Jeff Standish
4. 10:15 A.M. - Jim McMahon, Jeff Standish
5. Bike-A-Thon Request
6. Special Events & Entertainment Law Discussion of Threshold for Review
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7. Ovsianik Change of Zone
aw
9.
10.
Motion To: Motion to enter into Executive Session
RESULT: ADOPTED [UNANIMOUS]
MOVER: Louisa P. Evans, Justice
SECONDER: William Ruland, Councilman
AYES: Ruland, Orlando, Talbot, Krupski Jr., Evans, Russell
EXEUCTIVE SESSION - Property Acquisition - Melissa Spiro
EXECUTIVE SESSION - Labor
EXECUTIVE SESSION - Litigation Strategy
Motion To: Motion to exit from Executive Session
RESULT: ADOPTED [UNANIMOUS]
MOVER: Louisa P. Evans, Justice
SECONDER: Albert Krupski Jr., Councilman
AYES: Ruland, Orlando, Talbot, Krupski Jr., Evans, Russell
Pledge to the Flag
Opening Statements
Supervisor Scott A. Russell
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Please rise and join in the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag. Thank
you. I would ask anyone that wants to comment on any of the agenda items to please feel free to
come up now. (No response)
V. Resolutions
2011-587
CA TEGOR Y: Audit
DEPARTMENT: Town Clerk
Approve Audit
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby approves the audit dated
August 16~ 2011.
Vote Record - Resolution RES~20i i-587
[] Adopted
[] Adopted as Amended
[] Defeated Yes/Aye No(NaY Abstain Absent
[] Tabled William Ruiand Voter [] [] [] []
[] Withdrawn Vincent Orlando Voter [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt Christopher Talbot Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt Albert Kmpski Jr. Voter [] [] [] []
[] Rescinded Louisa P. Evans Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Town Clerk's Appt Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
[] Supt Hgwys Appt
[] No Action
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2011-588
CATEGOR~
DEPARTMENT:
Set Meeting
Town Clerk
Set Next Town Board Meeting
RESOLVED that the next Regular Town Board Meeting of the Southold Town Board be held at
7:30 PM on Tuesday~ August 30~ 2011 at the Southold Town Hall, Southold, New York
~' v0te Ryeo[d ~ Re~Olufl0n RE8~2011~588
[] Adopted
[] Adopted as Amended
[] Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Tabled William Rulmnd Voter [] [] [] []
[] Withdravm Vincent O~iandoVoter [] v1 [2 []
[] Supeivisoi's Appt Christopher Talbot Seconder [] [] [] []
[] lax Receiver's Appt Albert Kmpski Jr. Voter [] [] El []
[] Rescinded Louisa P. Evans Initiator I~l : Fl 13 [3
[] Town Clerk's Appt Scott Russell Voter ~ : [] 13 []
[] Supt Hgwys Appt
[] No Action
2011-589
CATEGOR~
DEPARTMEN~
Employment - Town
Accounting
Resignation of Construction Equipment Operator Frederick Visser
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the resignation of
Fredric J. Visser from the position of Construction Equipment Operator in the Solid Waste
Department, effective August 14, 2011.
Vote RecOrd - Re~olofi0n REs-2011-589
[] Adopted
[] Adopted as Amended
[] Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Tabled William Ruland Voter [] [] [] []
[] Withdrawn Vincent Orlando Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor~s Appt Christopher Talbot Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt Albert Kmpski Jr. Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Rescinded Louisa P. Evans Voter [] [] [] []
[] Town Clerk's Appt Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
[] Supt Hgwys Appt
[] No Action
2011-590
CATEGORD
DEPARTMEN~
Strawberry Fields
Recreation
Approve Use of Strawberry Fields
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RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants permission to
Bishop McGann-Mere¥ High School to use Strawberry Fields in Mattituek for Varsit~ and
JV soccer practice from 3:00 p.m. to 6:00 p.m.~ Monday through Friday and from 8:00 a.m.
to noon on Saturdays~ commencing on August 29 and ending on October 31~ 2011, subject
to the payment of a fee to the Town in the sum of $150 per week during this time period and
subject to the Applicant filing with the Town Clerk's Office a One Million Dollar Certificate of
Insurance naming the Town of Southold and the County of Suffolk as additional insured, subject
to the approval of the Town Attorney. Support is for this year only as the Town Board and the
Recreation Department continue to evaluate the use of Town properties.
~' vo~e Ree°rd ,, Res0iuti0n RE~2011-590
[] Adopted
[] Adopted as Amended
[] Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay : Abstain Absent
[] Tabled William Ruland Seconder [] [] [] El
12] Withdrawn Vincent Orlando Voter [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt CItristopher Talbot Voter [] [] : [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt ~ibe~ ~pski ~r. init!at0~ v~ El ~ [2]
[] Rescinded Louisa P. Evans Voter [] [] [] []
[] Town Clerk's Appt S~ott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
[] Supt Hgwys Appt
[] No Action
Comments regarding resolution 590
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: I would like to add to that is that support is definitely limited to this year
only as the Southold Town Board and the Recreation Department continue to evaluate the use of town
2011-591
CA TEGOR Y:
DEPARTMENT:
Employment - Town
Recreation
Hire Summer Seasonal Employees
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints the following
individuals as lifeguards for the remainder of the 2011 summer season - August 17 through
September 5.
STILLWATER LIFEGUARDS HOURLY SALARY
Lyndsie Taylor (lst year) .......................................................... $12.17/hour
Margaux Reidy (lst year) .......................................................... $12.17/hour
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~' vote Rec0rd ~ Resolution RESt2011-~91
[] Adopted
[] Defeated ~e~(A~e No/Nay Abstain Absent
2011-592
CATEGORY:
DEPARTMENT:
Contracts, Lease & Agreements
Accounting
Engage Albrecht, Viggiano Zureck-2011 2012 Audits
Fiscal Impact:
Engagement letter for the 2011 financial audit ($71,400), Justice Court Audit ($5,100), 2012financial
audit ($ 72, 800, Justice Court Audit ($5,200).
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs
Supervisor Scott Russell to execute an engagement letter with Albrecht, Vie~iano. Zureck
and Company, P.C. in connection with the Fiscal Year 2011 and Fiscal Year 2012 Single
Audits of the Town of Southold and audits of the Southold Town Justice Court as required by the
New York State Office of Court Administration, at a fee not to exceed $76,500 for the 2011
audit and $78,000 for the 2012 audit, which shall be a legal charge to the General Fund Whole
Town Independent Auditing and Accounting Budget (A. 1320.4.500.300), all in accordance with
the approval of the Town Attorney.
Vote Record - Resolution RES-2011-592
El Adopted
[] Adopted as Amended
[] Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay ~bst0in Aio~ent
[] Tabled William Ruland Voter El [] [] []
[] Withdrawn Vincent Orlando Voter El [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt Christopher Talbot Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt Albert Krapski Jr. Voter El [] [] []
[] Rescinded Louisa P. Evans Seconder [~ [] [] []
[] Town Clerk's Appt Scott Russell Voter [] [] r~ []
[] Supt Hgwys Appt
[] No Action
2011-557
Tabled 8/2/2011 7:30 PM
CA TEGOR Y: Property Usage
DEPARTMENT: Recreation
Southold High School Use of Tennis Courts
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RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants permission to
Southold High School to use the tennis courts at Tasker and Jean Coehran Parks for high
school tennis matches from September 7 through October 14, 2011. There will be a total of
14 tennis matches. Applicant must file with the Town Clerk a One Million Dollar Certificate of
Insurance naming the Town of Southold as additional insured before the first event.
Vote Re*ord- Resolution RES-2011-557
[] Adopted
[] Adopted as Amended
[] Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Tabled William Ruland Initiator [] [] : 13 []
[] Withdrawn Vincent Orlando Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt Christopher Talbot Voter [] [] 13 []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt Albert Krupski Jr. Voter [] [] [] []
[] Rescinded Louisa P. Evans Voter [] [] [] []
[] Town Clerk's Appt Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
[] Supt Hgwys Appt
[] No Action
2011-593
CA TEGOR Y:
DEPARTMENT:
Contracts, Lease & Agreements
Town Attorney
Copywrite Agreement for Toy Story 3
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes Supervisor
Scott A. Russell to execute an Exhibition Request Form of Swank Motion Pictures fulfilling
Federal copyright requirements for the Youth Bureau's Family Movie Night in the Park viewing
of Toy Story 3, subject to the approval of the Town Attorney.
Vote Record - Resolution RES-2011-593
[] Adopted
[] Adopted as Amended
[] Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Tab,ed wiiliarn Ruiand [niti~i0r [] [] [] []
[] Withdrawn Vincent Orlando Seconder [] [] U] []
[] Supervisor's Appt Christopher Talbot Voter [] D [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt Albert Krupski Jr. Voter [~ [] [] []
[] Rescinded Louisa P. Evans Voter [] [] [] []
[] Town Clerk's Appt Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
[] Supt Hgwys Appt
[] No Action
2011-594
CATEGORY: Close/Use Town Roads
DEPARTMENT: Town Clerk
Grant Permission to North Fork Beach Volleyball to Park Overflow Vehicles Along Breakwater Road, in
the Vicinity of Breakwater Park
RESOLVED the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants permission to North Side-
Out Beach Volleyball League Inc. to park overflow vehicles along Breakwater Road, in the
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vicinity of Breakwater park on: Saturday, August 27, 2011 (r/d August 28) for the end of season
Tournament; on Saturday, September 17, 2011 (r/d September 18,2011) for the Beach
Volleyball awards party, provided they file with the Town Clerk a One Million Dollar Certificate
of Insurance naming the Town of Southold as an additional insured and provided the cars are
displaying a Mattituck Park District stickers or windshield flyers identifying participants or
spectators and they contact Chief Martin Flatley of the Southold Police Department immediately
for proper placement of the permits. Support is for this year only as the Southold Town Board
continues to evaluate town road usage.
Vote Record -Resolutton RES-2011-594
[] Adopted
[] Adopted as Amended
[] Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Tabled William Ruland Voter [] [] [] []
[] Withdrawn Vincent Orlando Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt Christopher Talbot Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt Albert Kmpski Jr. Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Rescinded Louisa P. Evans Voter [] [] [] []
[] Town Clerk's Appt Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
[] Supt Hgwys Appt
[] No Action
2011-595
CATEGORY:
DEPARTMENT:
Contracts, Lease & Agreements
Town Attorney
Amend Resolution No. 2011-533
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby amends Resolution No.
2011-533~ adopted on July 1% 2011~ to read as follows:
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs
Supervisor Scott A. Russell to execute the Acquisition Agreement Lease or Purchase
between the Town of Southold and Canon Business Solutions, Inc., in connection with the
lease of one (1) Canon IR-6055 copy machine for use by the Justice Court at a monthly cost of
$401.00 for a period of sixty (50) forty-eight (48) months from the date of installation, subject
to the approval of the Town Attorney.
Vote Re~otd; Resolution RES-2011-595
[] Adopted
[] Adopted as Amended
[] Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Tabled William Rulm~d Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Withdrawn Vincent Orlando Voter [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt Christopher Talbot Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt Albert Kmpski Jr. Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Rescinded Louisa P. Evans Voter [] [] [] []
[] Town Clerk's Appt Scott Russell Voter [] F1 [] []
[] Supt Hgwys Appt
[] No Action
2011-596
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CA TEGOR Y:
DEPARTMENT:
Budget Modification
Accounting
Budget Modification for Debt Service Transfer to Capital Fund
Fiscal Impact:
Allocate debt service appropriated for Fuel Management System to fund the Fuel Management System, as
borrowing was reduced by this amount. Funds will not be transfered to the Capital Fund until or if
needed.
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the 2011 General
Fund Whole Town budget as follows:
From:
A.9730.6.000.000
To:
A.9901.9.000.100
Bond Anticipation Notes, Principal
Total
$50,000
$50,000
Transfers to Capital Fund $50,000
Total $50,000
Vote Record; Resolution RES=2011-596
[] Adopted
[] Adopted as Amended
[] Defeated Yes/Aye N0(Nay Abstain Absent
[] Tabled William Ruland Voter [] [] [] []
[] Withdrawn Vincent Orlando Voter [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt Christopher Talbot Seconder ~ [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt A!b~ Krupski Jr. Voter [] [] [] []
[] Rescinded Louisa P. Evans Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Town Clerk's Appt Scott Russell Voter ~ [] [] []
[] Supt Hgwys Appt
[3 No Action
2011-597
CA TEGOR Y:
DEPARTMENT:
Budget Modification
Accounting
Budget Modification for Used Refrigerator Truck
Fiscal Impact:
Appropriate funds for a used refrigerator truck.
TO BE DEFEATED
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the 2011 General
Fund Whole Town budget as follows:
From:
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A. 1620.1.200.100
To:
A.1620.2.300.200
Buildings & Grounds, Personal Services
Part Time Regular Earnings $9,500
Total $9,500
Buildings & Grounds, Equipment
Trucks $9,500
Total $9,500
Vote Record - Resolution RES-2011-597
[] Adopted
[] Adopted as Amended
[] Defeated Yes/Aye : No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Tabled William Ruland Voter [] [] [] [3
[] Withdrawn Vih~ent Orlando Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt Christopher Talbot : Initiator [] [] [] 13
[] Tax Receiver's Appt A!be~ ~pski Jr. Voter [] [] [] []
[] Rescinded
[] Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P. Evans Voter [] [] [] []
[] Supt Hgwys Appt S~ott RUssell Voter [] [] [] []
[] No Action
Next: Aug 30, 2011 7:30 PM
2011-598
CA TEGOR Y: Bond
DEPARTMENT: Town Clerk
Bond for Stormwater Mitigation
BOND RESOLUTION OF THE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD, NEW
YORK, ADOPTED AUGUST 16, 2011, AUTHORIZING THE
CONSTRUCTION OF STORMWATER MITIGATION
IMPROVEMENTS, STATING THE ESTIMATED MAXIMUM
COST THEREOF IS $500,000, APPROPRIATING SAID
AMOUNT FOR SUCH PURPOSE, AND AUTHORIZING THE
ISSUANCE OF $500,000 SERIAL BONDS OF SAID TOWN TO
FINANCE SAID APPROPRIATION
THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD, IN THE COUNTY OF
SUFFOLK, NEW YORK, HEREBY RESOLVES (by the favorable vote of not less than two-
thirds of all the members of said Town Board) AS FOLLOWS:
Section 1. The Town of Southold, in the County of Suffolk, New York (herein
called the "Town"), is hereby authorized to construct stormwater mitigation improvements. The
estimated maximum cost thereof, including preliminary costs and costs incidental thereto and the
financing thereof, is $500,000 and said amount is hereby appropriated for such purpose. The
plan of financing includes the issuance of $500,000 serial bonds of the Town to finance said
appropriation, and the levy and collection of taxes on all the taxable real property in the Town to
pay the principal of said bonds and the interest thereon as the same shall become due and
payable.
Section 2. Serial bonds of the Town in the principal amount of $500,000 are
hereby authorized to be issued pursuant to the provisions of the Local Finance Law, constituting
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Chapter 33-a of the Consolidated Laws of the State of New York (herein called the "Law"), to
finance said appropriation.
Section 3. The following additional matters are hereby determined and declared:
(a) The period of probable usefulness applicable to the class of objects or
purposes for which said bonds are authorized to be issued, within the limitations of Section 11.00
a. 4 of the Law, is forty (40) years.
(b) The proceeds of the bonds herein authorized and any bond anticipation notes
issued in anticipation of said bonds may be applied to reimburse the Town for expenditures made
after the effective date of this resolution for the purpose for which said bonds are authorized.
The foregoing statement of intent with respect to reimbursement is made in conformity with
Treasury Regulation Section 1.150-2 of the United States Treasury Department.
(c) The proposed maturity of the bonds authorized by this resolution will exceed
five (5) years.
(d) The Town Board of the Town, acting in the rote of Lead Agency pursuant
to the provisions of the New York State Environmental Quality Review Act ("SEQRA"), has
determined that the class of objects or purposes described in Section 1 hereof is a Type II Action
as defined under SEQRA the Regulations promulgated thereunder and no further review is
required.
Section 4. Each of the bonds authorized by this resolution and any bond
anticipation notes issued in anticipation of the sale of said bonds shall contain the recital of
validity as prescribed by Section 52.00 of the Law and said bonds and any notes issued in
anticipation of said bonds shall be general obligations of the Town, payable as to both principal
and interest by general tax upon all the taxable real property within the Town. The faith and
credit of the Town are hereby irrevocably pledged to the punctual payment of the principal of
and interest on said bonds and any notes issued in anticipation of the sale of said bonds and
provision shall be made annually in the budget of the Town by appropriation for (a) the
amortization and redemption of the bonds and any notes in anticipation thereof to mature in such
year and (b) the payment of interest to be due and payable in such year.
Section 5. Subject to the provisions of this resolution and of the Law and
pursuant to the provisions of Section 21.00 relative to the authorization of bonds with
substantially level or declining annual debt service, Section 30.00 relative to the authorization of
the issuance of bond anticipation notes and Section 50.00 and Sections 56.00 to 60.00 and
Section 168.00 of the Law, the powers and duties of the Town Board relative to authorizing bond
anticipation notes and prescribing the terms, form and contents and as to the sale and issuance of
the bonds herein authorized, and of any bond anticipation notes issued in anticipation of said
bonds, and the renewals of said bond anticipation notes, and as to the execution of agreements
for credit enhancements, are hereby delegated to the Supervisor, the chief fiscal officer of the
Town.
Section 6. The validity of the bonds authorized by this resolution, and of any
notes issued in anticipation of the sale of said bonds, may be contested only if:
(a) such obligations are authorized for an object or purpose for which the
Town is not authorized to expend money, or
(b) the provisions of law which should be complied with at the date of
publication of such resolution, or a summary thereof, are not substantially
complied with,
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and an action, suit or proceeding contesting such validity is commenced within twenty days after
the date of such publication, or
(c) such obligations are authorized in violation of the provisions of the
constitution.
Section 7. This bond resolution is subject to a permissive referendum and the
Town Clerk is hereby authorized and directed, within ten (10) days after the adoption of this
resolution, to cause to be published in "The Suffolk Times," a newspaper having a general
circulation within said Town and hereby designated the official newspaper of the Town for such
publication and posted on the sign board of the Town maintained pursuant to the Town Law, a
Notice in substantially the following form:
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD, NEW YORK
PLEASE TAKE NOTICE that on August 16, 2011, the Town Board of the Town
of Southold, in the County of Suffolk, New York, adopted a bond resolution entitled:
"Bond Resolution of the Town of Southold, New York,
adopted August 16, 2011, authorizing the construction of
stormwater mitigation improvements, stating the estimated
maximum cost thereof is $500,000, appropriating said amount
for such purpose, and authorizing the issuance of $500,000
serial bonds of said Town to finance said appropriation,"
an abstract of which bond resolution concisely stating the purpose and effect thereof, being as
follows:
FIRST: AUTHORIZING said Town to construct stormwater mitigation
improvements; STATING the estimated maximum cost thereof, including preliminary costs, and
costs incidental thereto and the financing thereof, is $500,000; APPROPRIATING said amount
for such purpose; and STATING the plan of financing includes the issuance of $500,000 serial
bonds of the Town to finance said appropriation, and the levy of a tax upon all the taxable real
property within the Town to pay the principal of said bonds and interest thereon;
SECOND: AUTHORIZING the issuance of $500,000 serial bonds of the Town
pursuant to the Local Finance Law of the State of New York to finance said appropriation;
THIRD: DETERMINING and STATING that the period of probable usefulness
applicable to the purpose for which said serial bonds are authorized to be issued is forty (40)
years; the proceeds of said bonds and any bond anticipation notes issued in anticipation thereof
may be applied to reimburse the Town for expenditures made after the effective date of this bond
resolution for the purpose for which said bonds are authorized; and the proposed maturity of said
$500,000 serial bonds will exceed five (5) years; and STATING that the Town Board, as Lead
Agency pursuant to the provisions of the New York State Environmental Quality Review Act
("SEQRA"), has determined that the purpose for which the bonds are authorized is a Type II
Action and no further review is required;
FOURTH: DETERMINING that said bonds and any bond anticipation notes
issued in anticipation of said bonds and the renewals of said bond anticipation notes shall be
general obligations of the Town; and PLEDGING to their payment the faith and credit of the
Town;
FIFTH: DELEGATING to the Supervisor the powers and duties as to the
issuance of said bonds and any bond anticipation notes issued in anticipation of said bonds, or
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the renewals thereof; and
SIXTH: DETERMINING that the bond resolution is subject to a permissive
referendum.
DATED: August 16, 2011
Elizabeth A. Neville
Town Clerk
Section 8. The Town Clerk is hereby authorized and directed to cause said bond
resolution to be published, in summary, in substantially the form set forth in Exhibit A attached
hereto and made a part hereof, after said bond resolution shall take effect, in the newspaper
referred to in Section 7 hereof, and hereby designated the official newspaper for said publication,
together with a Notice in substantially the form as provided by Section 81.00 of the Local
Finance Law, constituting Chapter 33-a of the Consolidated Laws of the State of New York.
EXHIBIT A
NOTICE
The resolution, a summary of which is published herewith, has been adopted on the 16th day of
August, 2011, and an abstract thereof has been published and posted as required by law and the
period of time has elapsed for the submission and filing of a petition for a permissive referendum
and a valid petition has not been submitted and filed. The validity of the obligations authorized
by such resolution may be hereafter contested only if such obligations were authorized for an
object or purpose for which the Town of Southold, in the County of Suffolk, New York, is not
authorized to expend money or if the provisions of law which should have been complied with as
of the date of publication of this notice were not substantially complied with, and an action, suit
or proceeding contesting such validity is commenced within twenty days after the date of
publication of the notice, or such obligations were authorized in violation of the provisions of the
constitution.
ELIZABETH A. NEVILLE
Town Clerk
BOND RESOLUTION OF THE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD, NEW
YORK, ADOPTED AUGUST 16, 2011, AUTHORIZING THE
CONSTRUCTION OF STORMWATER MITIGATION
IMPROVEMENTS, STATING THE ESTIMATED MAXIMUM
COST THEREOF IS $500,000, APPROPRIATING SAID AMOUNT
THEREFOR, AND AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF $500,000
SERIAL BONDS OF SAID TOWN TO FINANCE SAID
APPROPRIATION
The class of objects or purposes for which the bonds are authorized is the construction of
stormwater mitigation improvements, at the estimated maximum cost of $500,000
The amount of obligations to be issued is $500,000.
The period of probable usefulness is forty (40) years.
A complete copy of the bond resolution summarized above shall be available for public
inspection during normal business hours at the office of the Town Clerk, at the Town Hall,
53095 Main Street, Southold, New York.
August 16, 2011
Southold Town Board Meeting Minutes
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Vote Record - ReSolution RES-2011.S98
[] Adopted
[] Adopted as Amended
[] Defeated Yes/A~e N0/Na~ Abstain Absent
[] Tabled William Ruland Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Withdrawn Vincent Orlando Voter [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt Cl~stopher Talbot Voter [] [] : [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt Albert Krupski Jr. Voter [] [] : [] []
[] Rescinded Louisa P, Evans Seconder [] [] : [] [3
[] Town Clerk's Appt Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
[] Supt Hgwys Appt
[] No Action
2011-599
CATEGORY:
DEPARTMENT:
Budget Modification
Police Dept
Budget Modification- PD Vacation and Sick Earnings
Fiscal Impact:
Transfer funds due to the retirement o fa police department member from April 2011.
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the 2011 General
Fund Whole Town budget as follows:
From:
A.1990.4.100.200
To.'
A.3120.1.100.300
A.3120.1.I 00.400
Contingent, Police Retirement Reserve
Total
$174,336
$174,336
Police, P.S., Vacation Earnings
Police, P.S., Sick Earnings
Total
$75,230
99,106
$174,336
Vote Record - Resolution RES-2011-599
[] Adopted
[] Adopted as Amended
[] Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Tabled William Ruland Voter [] [] [] []
[] Withdrawn Vincent Orlando Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt Christopher Talbot Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt Albea Krupski Jr. Seconder [] []
[] Rescinded Louisa P. Evans Voter [] [] []
[] Town Clerk's Appt Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
[] Supt Hgwys Appt
[] No Action
2011-600
CA TE GO R Y:
DEPARTMENT:
Public Service
Town Attorney
Grants Permission to Tamsin Yeomans and Guests' to Park Approximately Ten (10) Vehicles at the End of
Young's Road in Orient, New York, Between the Hours of 6:00 P.M. and Midnight on Friday, August 26,
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2011
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants permission to
Tamsin Yeomans and guests to park approximately ten (10) vehicles at the end of Young's
Road in Orient~ New York~ between the hours of 6:00 p.m. and midnight on Friday~ August
26~ 2011. Written notice of the authorization granted by this resolution must be displayed by
placard in each parked vehicle.
Vote Record. ReSOlUti0n nES-2011-600
[] Adopted
[] Adopted as Amended
[] Defeated y~$~Ay~ No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Tabled William Ruland Voter [] [] [] []
[] Withdrawn Vincent Orlando Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt , Christopher Talbot Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt Albert Kmpski Jr. initiator [] [] [] []
[] Rescinded Louisa P. Evans Voter [] [] [] []
[] Town Clerk's Appt Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
[] Supt Hgwys Appt
[] No Action
2011-601
cA TEGOR Y:
DEPARTMENT:
Authorize to Bid
Highway Department
Advertise for Highway Equipment
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs the
Town Clerk to advertise for bids for the following:
1 - new 2011 12,000 lb. Capacity Trailer, such as an Interstate 12 R.B.S. Low Deck Tag-Along
trailer, or equal;
1 - new 2011 Heavy Duty Land Clearing Brush Cutter Attachment Model DL-66, or equal;
1 - new 201 l Backhoe BH609 Edge/CEattachments, together with 18" digging bucket, or equal;
1 - new 2011 Cold Planer Universal/Coneqtec attachment or equal;
The above-listed 3 attachments must all couple to a 2011 Takeuchi-TL240 Rubber Track Loader,
and be it further
RESOLVED that the appropriation line to be charged for the above purchases will be
H.5130.2.300.400.
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Vote Record, ReSOlution RES-2011-601
[] Adopted
[] Adopted as Amended
[] Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Tabled William Ruland Voter [] [] [] []
[] Withdrawn Vincent Orlando Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt Christopher Talbot Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt A!berl Kmpski Jr. Voter [] [] [] []
[] Rescinded Louisa P. Evans Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Town Clerk's Appt Scott Russell Voter [~ ~ [] []
[] Supt Hgwys Appt
[] No Action
2011-602
C,'ITEGORY:
DEPARTMENT:
Equipment
Highway Department
Purchase of Highway Equipment
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby allows the Superintendent
of Highways to purchase the following equipment from the New York State Contract:
1 - new 2011 Hyundai 757-9 3.5 Cubic Yard Wheel Loader~ in the amount of $129~160.00
(this purchase to be from the New York State Contract for mid-size wheel loaders: Award
#22063/Group 40603/Contract #PC65308) which will be equipped with
1 - Werk-Brau WL3 GB 100-3.5 Grapple Bucket with JRB Coupler Ears and a B.O.C.E. 3-
4 Bolt on Edge~ in the amount of $12,493.65 (this purchase is also to be from the New York
State Contract: ~40603, less 15% off Werk-Brau's 2010 price);
The combined total purchase amount for the above-described equipment purchases will be
$141,653.00, all subject to approval by both the Town Board and Town Attorney; and be it
further
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby allows the Superintendent
of Highways to purchase the following equipment from the Suffolk County Contract,
Letting #15-09.4.16:
1 - new Takeuchi-TL240 Rubber Track/Skid Steer Loader~ complete with a general
purpose Bucket with Cab & Heat~ along with High Flow Option 1 and Air Conditionim,
Option 2~ in the amount of $53~950.00; and be it further
RESOLVED that the appropriation line to be charged for all the above will be
H.5130.2.300.400.
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~ ¥0te ReCOrd, Resolution RES~2011~o02
[] Adopted
[] Adopted as Amended
[] Defeated yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Tabled William Ruland Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Withdrawn vincent 6;i~hd0 Voter [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt Christopher Talbot Initiator [] Fl [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt Alber~ Kmpski Jr. Voter [] [] [] U1
[] Rescinded Louisa P. Evans Voter [] U] [] []
[] Town Clerk's Appt Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
[] Supt Hgwys Appt
[] No Action
2011-603
CA TEGOR Y:
DEPARTMENT:
Property Acquisition Public Hearing
Land Preservation
PH 8/30/11 ~ 7:36 Pm - Pindar/Damianos Dev Rights
RESOLVED that pursuant to the provisions of Chapter 17 (Community Preservation Fund) and
Chapter 70 (Agricultural Lands) of the Town Code, the Town Board of the Town of Southold
hereby sets Tuesday~ August 30~ 2011, at 7:36 p.m. Southold Town Itall~ 53095 Main Road~
Southold, New York as the time and place for a public hearing for the purchase of a
development rights easement on propert~ owned by Pindar Vineyards~ LLC. Said property
is identified as part of SCTM #1000-108.-4-1.1. The address is 18625 Main Road (NYS Route
25) in Mattituck, New York. The parcel is located on the northerly side of Main Road (NYS
Route 25), approximately 1160 feet west of the intersection of Elijah's Lane and NYS Route 25
and lies within two zoning districts, with 0.88± acre in the R-40 zoning district and the remaining
acreage in the A-C zoning district. The proposed acquisition is for a development rights
easement on a part of the property, located entirely within the A-C zoning district, consisting of
approximately 20± acres (subject to survey) of the 24.18± total parcel acreage.
The exact area of the acquisition is subject to a Town-provided survey acceptable to the Land
Preservation Committee and the property owner. The easement will be acquired using
Community Preservation Funds. The purchase price is $61,000 (sixty-one thousand dollars) per
buildable acre for the 20± acre easement plus acquisition costs.
The property is listed on the Town's Community Preservation Project Plan as property that
should be preserved due to its agricultural and aquifer recharge values.
FURTHER NOTICE is hereby given that a more detailed description of the above mentioned
parcel of land is on file in Land Preservation Department, Southold Town Hall Annex, 54375
Route 25, Southold, New York, and may be examined by any interested person during business
hours.
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~ Vote Record ~ Resolution RES-20ii-603
[] Adopted
[] Adopted as Amended
[] Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Tabled William Ruland Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Withdrawn Vincent Orlando Seconder ~ [] El []
[] Supervisor's Appt Cluistopher Talbot Voter 1~ [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt ~!be~ ~PSki Jr: Voter [] [] El []
[] Rescinded Louisa P. Evans Voter [] [] [] []
[] Town Clerk's Appt Scott Russell Voter [] F1 [] []
[] Supt Hgwys Appt
[] No Action
2011-604
CATEGORY:
DEPARTMENT:
Close/Use Town Roads
Town Clerk
Bike-A-Thon
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby erants oermission to the
Bicycle Shows USA to use the following roads Bike-A-Thon on August 28~ 2011 beginning at
6:30AM: Route 25, Moore's Lane, Route 48, Sound View Avenue, Sound View Avenue Ext.,
and Chapel Lane, Greenport; Lighthouse Road, Soundview Avenue, Horton' Lane, North Sea
Drive, and Kenny's Road, Southold; Mill Road, Peconic; Bridge Lane and Oregon Road,
Cutchogue; Oregon Road, East Mill Road, Reeve Road, Grand Avenue, Wickham Avenue,
Westphalia Road, Cox Neck Road, Bergen Avenue, and Sound Avenue, Mattituck; Peconic Bay
Blvd. and Bay Avenue, Laurel; New Suffolk Avenue, Jackson Street, First Street, Orchard
Street, and Fifth Street, New Suffolk; Village Lane, King Street, and Narrow River Road, Orient,
provided they file with the Town Clerk a One Million Dollar Certificate of Insurance naming the
Town of Southold as an additional insured, submit a Special Events fee for $100.00, a $250.00
clean-up deposit, and notify Chief Flatley, upon receipt of this resolution, to coordinate traffic
control. Support is for this year only, as the Southold Town Board continues to evaluate the use
of town roads.
Vote Record - Resolution RES-2011-604
[] Adopted
[] Adopted as Amended
[] Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Tabled William Ruland Voter [] [] [] []
[] Withdrawn Vincent Orlando Initiator I~1 [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt Christopher Talbot Voter [El [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt Albert Krupski Jr. Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Rescinded Louisa P. Evans Voter ~ [] [] []
[] Town Clerk's Appt Scott Russell Initiator I~ [] [] []
[] Supt Hgwys Appt
[] No Action
2011-605
CATEGOR~
DEPARTMEN~
Litigation
Town Attorney
Retains Frank A. Islet, Esq. as Special Counsel in the Supreme Court, Suffolk County Civil Action
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Entitled David Air, ETA1. Iz. Board of Trustees of the Town of Southold, Town Board of the Town of
Southold, and Orient Wharf Company
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby retains Frank A. Isler~ Esq.
as Special Counsel in the Supreme Courh Suffolk County civil action entitled "David Air~
et al. v. Board of Trustees of the Town of Southold~ Town Board of the Town of Southold~
and Orient Wharf Company" under Index No. 11-25432.
'/y0te Record - ReSolution RES-201 l~60S
~ Adopted
Fl Adopted as Amended
[] Defeated Yes/Aye No,Nay Abstain Absent
[] Tabled William Ruland Voter [] [] [] []
[] Withdrawn Vincent Orlando Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt Christopher Talbot Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receivers Appt Albert Krupsk! Jr. Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Rescinded Louisa P. Evans Voter [] [] [] []
[] Town Clerk's Appt Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
[] Supt Hgwys Appt
[] No Action
Closing Statements
Supervisor Russell
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: What I will do now is offer the opportunity for anybody that wants
to address the Town Board on any issue? Please? Either microphone is fine. We just need you
to speak into the microphone so they can hear it and transcribe the meeting.
Ken Teldaldi, Mill Lane, Peeonic
KEN TEDALDI: Ken Tedaldi. I have a summer house on 1900 Mill Lane in Peconic. I was out
there two weeks ago and I noticed that you have all these no parking signs at any time and I
counted them, there were 64 of them. Now I know what the problem was, it is people parking
down by the beach, inch up. But my house is like a halfa mile and then the signs go right up to
Sound Avenue. It is just seems excessive. It looks like you are in Queens or something. And it
says no parking any time, so if I have somebody over the house for a weekend, they park in the
front, are we going to get a ticket? Do you think maybe it was excessive, putting 64 signs for the
whole street, where you can maybe start with a couple hundred yards up and see how that works
out? Or at least maybe say no parking from June, July, August or something. Put a date. But I
just think it was excessive.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: You know it might be. I went out and looked, I did talk to you on
the phone. I talked to other people. I have to tell you, this originated with a petition from a
community that said you need to do something about what is a very public and popular asset,
which is the beach. The problem is, you needed a beach sticker to park within the parking lot of
the beach. People who weren't residents were parking outside of that and just simply walking in.
What we have found in the past is as we have restricted parking outside the parking areas, the
cars just keep moving farther and farther away but the determination to use the beach is still
there. In fact, we just noticed for a public hearing expanding the no parking in an area of
Mattituck at Bailie Beach for the very same reason. And we have exceeded the half mile there
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and they are still parking.
MR. TEDALDI: More than a halfa mile?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Just about.
MR. TEDALDI: Because I have never seen any cars up to my house.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I will tell you there is, it has presented certain problems, there is no
doubt about it. I talked to Pete Harris, Highway Superintendent, today. I talked to Chief Flatley
the other day about bringing some measure of solution here. We had a local contractor who was
given a parking ticket for parking his truck and trailer in the road while he was cutting
someone's grass and I asked him, couldn't you have pulled into the driveway and he said there is
no room, the lots are too small. I went out there and looked and he is right. So obviously there is
an issue that I think it is probably something the town board might want to consider is having
another public discussion, we had a public hearing but it was last winter. Some people say, well,
you know what? It was wintertime, we weren't here, although it was a well attended public
hearing. The idea is to perhaps maybe have another public meeting to get a sense of the
community because we are getting mixed messages. We are getting petitions demanding the no
parking and then we are getting, we are putting the signs up and people calling us and saying
well, what are you doing? Why are all the signs up? Also, Pete had erected those signs perfectly
consistent with state law which requires posting every 125 feet. It seems like many signs but it is
completely consistent with state law and he was just trying to honor the law. That is an issue the
Town Board will have to discuss. Maybe we should sit down with the Transportation
Commission again. I know ChiefFlatley has some concerns about it. We are going to hear him
out in a budget hearing in the next few days and hopefully we can get a sense of what is a
solution here? We have a community demanding us address the illegal parking or the abuse of
the parking for the use of the beach and at the same time, they don't want the no parking in front
of their houses. It is almost a darned if you do, darned if you don't.
MR. TEDALDI: No, I understand what the whole problem was but does it have to go almost
ora mile, right up to North Road?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Well, our past experience has been absolutely. The reality is no
matter where you stop the no parking, that is where the parking will start.
MR. TEDALDI: See, I am halfway. Maybe a ~¼ of a mile. Last year and this year, I have never
seen a car in my area.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Well, that is because there has been no restriction to parking in the
past and we found again, other examples, in Mattituck at Bailie Beach, no matter where you
decide to stop the signage, the parking starts. And what we were trying to do with Mill Lane was
solve the problem all at one time. We can, you know, revisit the issue, remove the no parking
designation but if the cars start showing up, then we are at considerable cost and expense
because it is the group of people that don't want the signs today will come in and ask for them
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next year.
MR. TEDALDI: Well, I can see the people live in the first 200 or 300 yards, a ¼ of a mile, I can
see that as a problem. But the whole road? At least, make it seasonal because I think the
problem is really a 10 week season, right?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: It hasn't been our experience. The seasons are getting really long
out here, there was a time where a 10 week season but between the fishing and the camping that
takes place, it starts very early in the spring and goes very late into the fall.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: It is a problem that is taking place along the Sound primarily.
MR. TEDALDI: Yeah, because I am at 1900, right in the middle of it. I have never seen cars go
that far up. I know it is a problem further down. That was my concern.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: But there hasn't been a parking restriction in the past. We just
posted I think that 400 feet to the south of the parking lot as parking by beach sticker only.
Again, past experiences when you do that, then all of a sudden, 401 feet out is where the parking
starts. But again, I talked to you, I did tell you I talked to the various people involved. Again,
Chief Flatley has expressed some concerns to us, it is a discussion we are going to have with
him. We are going to ask Pete and some others to come in and say look, what is a good solution
here? How can we resolve this? It is very difficult to have it both ways but we are going to do
the best we can and try to strike a balance.
MR. TEDALDI: You gave me a good answer. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Thank you for bringing it to our attention.
MR. TEDALDI: Okay. Thanks.
James Spanos, Greenport
JAMES SPANOS: Hi, my name is James Spanos, I am from East Marion. I wanted to make a
proposal for a swimming pool here in Southold Town. I am sure it probably came up before and
I wanted to bring it up because I know there is a space that hasn't been utilized and it is the
Peconic school on Peconic Lane and my son is from Harrison and there are swim teams up there,
there is, my cousin is from Lexington in the suburb of Boston, he was on a swim team his whole
life. Now he is going to Princeton. Swimming is very important, I am very saddened that the
youth around here don't have swimming as an option for their school. He is very successful,
Michael is very successful. He is in Princeton, he is moving forward in politics and law and I
was thinking if the town can accept a proposal where we can get the ball rolling for something
like that. It can generate a lot of money for the town. I remember Mr. Russell was concerned
about that about a year ago, Supervisor, you wanted suggestions from the public to raise money
for the town. I think if school budget money can go towards it, we can find some venture capital
from private investors that are interested in helping the youth of our community. Also we could
generate money from elder swimming, senior swimming, that can be very beneficial for the
elderly in our community. It is something that I would like to propose and hopefully the town
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can embrace it and we can start the ball rolling.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Okay. I will quickly comment that I had actually discussed the issue
with several parents when I first became supervisor. One of the stumbling blocks is that
municipal pools are extremely expensive. Secondly, municipalities aren't good stewards of
pools. It is an expensive proposition for them to nm, they are a money pit wherever they are run
on Long Island. The idea of a private/public partnership would be more attractive, to have a not
for profit that would be the managing agent for the pool. The problem is the cost. In an
economy like this, we would have to go out and offer it up for a referendum to the voters, I don't
envision the voters wanting to spend three to five million to build an indoor pool only to turn the
management of it over to a managing agent like a non for profit. It is a nice thing, ironically, we
can't afford to locate a dog park which we just had a very large discussion on. It is a very
expensive proposition for a small town that doesn't have the critical mass to support it.
MR. SPANOS: Maybe we can leave it up to the voters and see where they would like to spend
their tax money, if they can embrace it, I see a lot of upside. Maybe you don't but I do. I see a
lot of...
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I see the upside, but again, the cost is such a huge downside in this
economy but I will let the other Board members ....
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: I agree with the Supervisor. We have world class beaches out here
and the youth should be taking, I know, certainly growing up out here we took advantage of the
best beaches in the world out here and...
MR. SPANOS: Well, I agree with you. i grew up out here and I love the beaches but that
excludes all the youth from competitive swimming, that excludes the youth for any chance of
going into diving, swimming, any kind of water polo and any other Olympic sports and the kids
around here have nothing. I hate to say it, they have a few PBA mainstream sports but
swimming, diving, water polo, even for the elderly, all the benefits of an indoor Olympic size
pool and where people can, you know, get a membership there or different groups can rent it out
and even have private parties there for swimming parties for pool parties for the kids. You
know, once a year they have a pool party. That can generate a lot of money for the town and it is
just, I would, maybe the town can leave it up to the voters. I know you don't agree with it and
the beaches are phenomenal.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: They sure are.
MR. SPANOS: They are. But it is not competitive.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Well, what I did is I met with this group of parents several years ago
and I said look, why don't you see if you can organize a not for profit that would serve as a
managing agent so that the town wouldn't be in the business of running a pool but merely as a
host to a pool. And if you can get a not for profit up and running and come back to us with a
good management plan, I will make a recommendation to the board that we offer up a
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referendum at a local election to see if the voters want to spend whatever that cost is. But you
need to give me the cost of the construction of that pool and also what the structure of the
management arrangement would be. I never heard back from them. I think they found that
creating a not for profit in a town that just doesn't have the well of donations that a town like
Southampton has, they found it was probably too arduous or too difficult a task to get off the
ground. But pools, I have to caution you, it is a great idea, I don't disagree with you, all the
attributes you mentioned are 100 percent correct but they are a very expensive proposition.
Municipalities have been shedding their ownerships of pools because they are very expensive to
mn. They are a very heavily and over-regulated asset for any town to have.
MR. SPANOS: Okay. Well, you said something about the people shunning away and leaving
the idea of the pool because of price. Well, what about a location? If we do come up with a plan
with a not for profit, would the town lease us, at a very reasonable rate, maybe like, a lot of
town's give up pieces of their property for like a dollar for 20 years or 100 years so we can do
something that can benefit the youth of the area and ....
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Any not for profit that wants to come before the Town Board with a
proposal and a specific recommendation, the Town Board will always play host and be an
audience and listen. That was the problem with the YMCA several years ago, was that the
YMCA was willing to construct a pool in Laurel but they had one caveat, they wanted the town
to grant them or give them the land. That is an unconstitutional gifting. We weren't allowed to
do that.
MR. SPANOS: We aren't asking to give, we are saying maybe lease it for a year or .....
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I know what you are saying. If you do all the legal research and
develop all those parameters, the Town Board will have you come and listen to any proposal you
want to give us.
MR. SPANOS: Thank you very much. I think it will be beneficial if you contemplate to giving
some land to, for something that can benefit the youth and the elderly and for health reasons year
round. Swimming would be great. Thank you so much for listening to my idea.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Benja.
Benja Schwartz, Cutchogue
BENJA SCHWARTZ: Good evening. Benja Schwarz, Cutchogue.
COUNCILMAN ORLANDO: You are dressed for fall already, Benja. Don't be jinxing us.
MR. SCHWARTZ: I was here this morning. It was cold. It is 67 now, it was 62 this morning.
And i was freezing my a off. Alright?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Now I have to go home and poke my minds eye out with a fork.
Thank you. I am just joking.
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MR. SCHWARTZ: I heard of this thing Southold 2020 and I think we have a parks and
recreation chapter coming up. And I, rather than shoot down the idea of a municipal swimming
pool, I personally used to love swimming in the creeks here but we have problems with pollution
and besides for that it gets a little cold in January and February. You know, when the kids are in
school. And I don't see it as an either or proposition, I think a municipal community pool,
maybe not even call it a municipal pool. It would be great if an organization would take the
leadership on this but if not, I don't see why Southold town government wouldn't consider the
possibility and possibly even put out some sort of RFP similar to what Greenport Village put out
for the design of Mitchell Park. Not to compare of them but we do have a location at Peconic
Lane, we haven't decided how to use it yet and it might be the ideal place for a pool. I probably
will never use it but I can see the value of it to the community and I could see it happening at
minimal or no cost or even a net profit to the community. If it was done in an appropriate way.
So to say that the parents should organize it, good luck. I tried to work with the parents in
Southold town. I don't know if their interest is the kids or what but I think that the government
has an equal interest in serving all the people, of all ages. Did anybody, because I was at the
meeting this morning, I didn't get to watch the Today show. Did anybody hear about on the
Today show? Apparently today there was supposed to be something about the North Fork?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I think Kathie Lee Gilford attended the wine making university out
here.
MR. SCHWARTZ: Yeah, I don't know much about that wine making university. Are you
familiar with it?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Not really and even less so with Kathie Lee Gifford. But I
appreciate whenever a star comes before us.
MR. SCHWARTZ: I mean, I could probably teach the wine growing, but anyway, it was
interesting that that was on network TV and it probably will be impacting this town. Okay. I am
sorry I was unable to get to this evening meeting in a timely fashion. Did you all vote to
authorize the purchase of a refrigerator truck tonight?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: No, we tabled that.
MR. SCHWARTZ: Oh, you tabled that one. Oh, okay because it was still on the agenda but that
was a $9,500 under $10,000 proposal to spend money on a specific, whether it is a truck or a
walk-in, some type of facility to cool the deer meat. What about the half million dollar bond
proposal...
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: For the MS 4? ! think we just authorized that this evening or a
notice for a public heating. Martin? We authorized that tonight, $500,000.
MR. SCHWARTZ: And what is that for?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: There is a host of projects that need to be done, road ends, they need
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to be done. Yes, the MS4 compliance. Road ends, stormwater mitigation solutions at several
locations in and around Hashamomaque, there is, I believe, some money in there for a project
that needs to be done in Willow Point estates. It tries to address the MS4 ....
MR. SCHWARTZ: Well, where is the list of projects? Is there, I think I saw something
somewhere ....
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Yes, we had a pretty comprehensive list today at work session. The
specifics on what we are going to select for that 500 are going to be subject to a future meeting in
the very near future as to what gets done first.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: Many of these projects we had planned already.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Yes. There are 30 or 40 projects.
MR. SCHWARTZ: You authorized borrowing the money but you don't know what you are
doing yet?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: We do know what we are doing. We know we are doing...
JUSTICE EVANS: We can't go out to bid until we authorize the bond.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: We know we are addressing stormwater mitigation and road runoff.
Some of that is dictated to us by the MS4 requirements, the TMDL, water bodies and things like
that. So we are going to make sure when we spend the money it is consistent with New York
state law and federal law.
MR. SCHWARTZ: I agree with you that there is a need for addressing water quality issues.
Stormwater runoff is one of the major causes of water quality issues in Southold Town, both in
the marine waters and in the aquifers...
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: Groundwater.
MR. SCHWARTZ: Our supply of freshwater, which is in the ground. The ground is like a
sponge and that holds the water that we drink, other than the water that we pump in from
Riverhead town but whether we pump water in our not, we have an interest in protecting the
water, the freshwater supply which is part of this town. So I think that stormwater runoff is very
important but I have made an effort to find out what is going on, I have seen reports made to
New York State that sound mom like dog ate the homework report than specifically what we are
going to do. And when I have seen specific proposals, people come to this town and make
proposals to contribute money to actually give money to the people of this town for grants to
protect the water, I have seen those proposals, the Town Board turning up their nose at those
proposals.
COUNCILMAN TALBOT: Which one are you specifically talking about?
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MR. SCHWARTZ: I am talking about the proposal fi.om the Peconic Estuary program where
they said they had a couple hundred thousand in their program...
COUNCILMAN TALBOT: Inaudible.
MR. SCHWARTZ: And they were looking for a place to make a pilot project, a demonstration
program, they wanted to see if they could clean up the Hashomaque watershed and they were
going to give grants to property owners on the water and in the watershed across the road...
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: The Town approved that, not only approved that, I think that is
already underway. The stewardship and implementation is being done by PEP.
MR. SCHWARTZ: I remember when it was first proposed and there was a lot of resistance to it.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I don't believe so. I think I was the one that raised an issue with
regard to spending tax payer money on creating rain gardens in this economic climate. But I
think the rest of the Board supported it wholeheartedly fi.om the beginning so I think your
memory is incorrect. Perhaps not as vivid...
MR. SCHWARTZ: Well, I remember you saying that I raise a red, I have got to raise a red flag
because I cannot support this...
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I don't ....
MR. SCHWARTZ: I remember the rest ofthe Board...
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Again, your memory is not as vivid as it should be.
MR. SCHWARTZ: I remember the rest of the Board was sort of resistant to your opposition but
there was no, I never heard that the program was adopted, I never about anything since then...
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: It was not only adopted, it is underway.
COUNCILMAN TALBOT: The individual property owners were then going to have to go
forward with it, get their own contractors to do the work and they were hoping that they would
group together five or ten projects with one contractor...
MR. SCHWARTZ: Why are we doing stormwater mitigation?
COUNCILMAN TALBOT: Because it is an unfunded mandate from the state.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Your memory is not vivid and it is not clear. I raised the issue...
MR. SCHWARTZ: No, I remember very clearly.
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SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Councilman Ruland made a very compelling argument in favor of
the program and I supported the program based on his very succinct and very compelling
argument in favor of it. And that changed my mind. My initial reaction was it seems to be
taxpayer money in this economy on private properties didn't seem to be sound but he made a
very compelling argument that swayed me and I supported the program and it is already
underway. So if you are not aware of it or you know, I am sorry, I will have PEP reach out to
you more often and keep you updated as to what they are up to.
MR. SCHWARTZ: Thank you very much. And could you clarify what this half a million
dollars is being allocated for?
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: Can I take a shot at that? We have been making a concerted effort
for quite a few years now and if you look at the town's drainage code and how, if you look at the
origin of road runoff, it is not just the rain that falls on the road and then is directed into our
surface waters or into drains which then goes down into the groundwater, a lot of it originates on
private property which then runs into the road then becomes road runoff because it accumulates
even faster...
MR. SCHWARTZ: Absolutely.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: Because of the efforts by the Town Board years ago to pass a
drainage code and because the building department implements it, we are having less road runoff
every year, every time a project is completed. Second of all, the $500,000 has been a, is a
number used by the MS4 committee as sort of a, almost like start up money for different road
runoff projects. We have got a lot of projects, many of them in Hashomomaque. The projects
have been, the plans are in place, we are trying to work that money in with different grants, so it
would minimize the financial impact on the town and the town, and the highway superintendent,
Pete Harris, is here and he is an important component in all that and in response to his
commitment to improving the water quality, he did a lot of work on what kind of equipment he
needs to do road improvements going forward to decrease the amount of runoff into our surface
waters and that is why we made those purchases tonight for different land moving equipment,
earth moving equipment and whatnot, so he can more efficiently do more drainage work for the
town. And get the work done in house...
MR SCHWARTZ: You are scaring me.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: Boo.
MR. SCHWARTZ: Well, I have seen some of the projects that have been done and not only
weren't they environmentally planned, there was no engineer involved. They were done based
on the request of a single homeowner.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Those aren't part of the MS4. Those are, the highway department
has been in the drainage business for years. The MS4 requirements are actually spelled out, the
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work we are doing under MS4, the priorities are set by that act. In other words, the TMDL's the
most impaired water bodies, this particular $500,000 will be used for four specific projects that
we already have permits pending from the DEC, in and around an area of what is called Laurel
Avenue in Southold. In and around up in that area, road ends, we are ripping back, similar to
what we did at the end of Harbor Lane in Cutchogue. Which is to rip the road back and to
replace what was asphalt with natural plantings and to catch basins...
MR. SCHWARTZ: Inaudible.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: No, I live on Oak Street which is offofHarbor Lane. I have to tell
you from personal experience, seeing it in action, it works wonderfully, so I disagree with you
that those projects don't work. They are meeting their goal, that is meeting its goal every time it
rains.
MR. SCHWARTZ: I see what happens at the end of Pequash Avenue, where the storm drains
have been put in and they are not being maintained, they are being clogged with leaves but when
they do work, they take the rain and they take and they put it in a pipe right out on the beach and
they wash out all the sand and then the highway department has to come back every year and
replenish the sand where it has washed out from the runoff. Essentially the stormwater
management for this town historically has been to dump it off the road, wherever it is going to
go, whether it is the marine waters or into the aquifer. I haven't seen any projects that stop the
channeling of rainwater flow along the gutters of the road all down to a central point. There is a
thing called a swale that absorbs the water, there is planting, there is, you know, the town sends
around a mower with a sickle bar I think you call it, I don't know, and just chops everything
down on the side of the road. You know, I haven't seen any concern for replacing invasives with
native species or there is so much we could do and I am very happy that you are going to borrow
money that the taxpayers are then going to pay for in the future to try to make a difference on
this issue but I would like to know where that money is being, what the money is being allocated
for before it is voted on and the bonds are issued and I just ....
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: Contact Mark Terry in the Planning Office, he has got the plans
there and he can explain to you the different priorities that we have set.
MR. SCHWARTZ: I will do that.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: And this is an investment in water quality to try to correct the road
design, historic road design.
MR. SCHWARTZ: Well, it says here as part of the resolution that the estimated period of
usefulness for these improvements, these stormwater runoff mitigation improvements is 40
years. How can you estimate that they are going to last 40 years if you don't have the specifics
of what the projects are? I just, you know...
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: We have, I will explain it once again, we have the specific projects,
engineered plans that have already been reviewed and approved ....
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MR. SCHWARTZ: But they are not part of this resolution.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: ...by the DEC. Permits in hand.
COUNCILMAN TALBOT: Benja, I thought that you were here that day when Mark presented
it to the Board at the work session. He had all of the detailed plans with him. I think you were
here.
MR. SCHWARTZ: I reviewed what I was presented. I reviewed what I could find. And a lot of
it was boilerplate gobbledegook. Alright, enough of that from me. I hope that it will make a
difference for the next 40 years and more, this half a million dollars. Which I don't know how
much of that half a million dollars will actually turn into money we have spent or half of it, you
know, part of that is the financing cost. So the whole thing to me is very vague. Sorry I missed
your meeting last week. I was interested in it. The agenda didn't get up till the day before and it
was very sketchy and the video wasn't posted until I think a week afterwards or five days
after ....
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: It was a week afterwards today.
COUNCILMAN TALBOT: Tomorrow. A week would be tomorrow.
TOWN CLERK NEVILLE: It is posted the day after.
MR. SCHWARTZ: No, it was not posted the day after. Because I looked for it the day after. A
couple of days after I finally looked and it was missing, it was missing and then a few days after,
maybe three, four days after, I don't know, it came up that it was there...
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Do you have anything...
MR. SCHWARTZ: But when I clicked on it...
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Meaningful to talk about? Do you have anything meaningful?
MR. SCHWARTZ: Do I have anything meaningful to talk about?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I mean for a change. Or is there anything with regard to, I have no
doubt if Betty says the meeting was up the next day, it was up the next day. But Fishers Island is
an annual meeting, it is more than just a work session of the Town Board, it is a meeting to bring
all parties, all levels of government to the people of Fishers Island and listen to their concerns
and issues. Issues as small as sidewalk repair to as large as helping them develop a master plan
for the island.
MR. SCHWARTZ: I understand there was a meeting on the master plan that evening. At the
community center. Last week...
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SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: On community character.
MR. SCHWARTZ: And you told me that there were no Southold Town meetings scheduled for
the community center.
JUSTICE EVANS: There weren't during the meeting. That was an extra meeting that the
Planning Department personnel stayed over.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Some of the Planning staff stayed over and presented a separate
community character plan to some interested residents that evening. The Board had already leR
the island at that point. We, I think, left on the ferry somewhere around 3:00. And the meeting
was at 5:30 at the community center over there.
JUSTICE EVANS: The Planning staffdid a similar...
MR. SCHWARTZ: So it was a coincidence the same day. Look, I am trying to work with you,
Scott. I don't understand why you are so...
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I am trying to get an understanding of what your point is, that is all.
I am not...
MR. SCHWARTZ: Well, my point about the meeting is that I wanted to know what happened.
Would you like to tell us a little bit for the people that were not there and that maybe didn't hear
about...
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Sure, I would certainly encourage them to go watch it on the town's
website. But one thing that I found interesting is that Fishers Island has coyotes. That was a
very interesting thing, completely unaware of that prior to that meeting. An interesting turn of
events on Fishers Island. So we are going to try to help develop some sort of mitigation plan,
some sort of eradication plan for that island because apparently coyotes are getting out of hand. I
found that quite interesting.
MR. SCHWARTZ: Coyotes can be quite dangerous.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: And cunning. Absolutely.
MR. SCHWARTZ: Much more so than deer. Does, so I am glad that you are going to address
that. I don't know if you read the comments that I posted on the, I think it was the Suffolk Times
website.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: No, I don't read the website.
MR. SCHWARTZ: The coyotes and the experience that they have been having with coyotes in
other jurisdictions.
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SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I don't read the website. I am sorry.
MR. SCHWARTZ: Well, you used to. You used to post a lot of comments yourself.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Specific questions, I would answer specific questions raised by
specific people.
MR. SCHWARTZ: Well, I appreciated you doing that. I am sorry you stopped. I don't know
why you stopped.
COUNCILMAN TALBOT: Alright, do you have anything else that is going to pertain to
anything that is going on in the town now? This is getting ridiculous. You are up here for 35
minutes almost, Benja. Come on.
MR. SCHWARTZ: I have been up here for 35 minutes?
COUNCILMAN TALBOT: Yes.
MR. SCHWARTZ: It is only 5:20.
COUNCILMAN TALBOT: Yes. You got up just before 10 to 5.
MR. SCHWARTZ: This meeting started at 4:30.
COUNCILMAN TALBOT: Benja, I think you do have a lot of....
MR. SCHWARTZ: This meeting has only been going for...
COUNCILMAN TALBOT: it has been endless discussion ....
MR. SCHWARTZ: Fifty minutes. That is what you think.
COUNCILMAN TALBOT: Well, yes. Because everything seems to be a fight with you, pal. I
would rather you offer up some good discussion, which you do sometimes ....
MR. SCHWARTZ: Well, I think I have been trying to...
COUNCILMAN TALBOT: You are very argumentative today.
MR. SCHWARTZ: Oh, I am argumentative?
COUNCILMAN TALBOT: I am going to call for a motion to adjourn the meeting.
MR. SCHWARTZ: Well, I happen to think that you just raised an issue and attacked me
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personally and I would like to bring up the fact that at the work session a couple of weeks ago,
you stated that you were not even going to consider suggestions that were made in connection
with the master planning meetings because they were just irresponsible and there was no way
that you were even going to consider them, regardless of the fact ....
COUNCILMAN TALBOT: I don't even know what you are talking about.
MR. SCHWARTZ: Well, you said that there were suggestions made to...
COUNCILMAN TALBOT: You mean, the suggestions I was talking about...
MR. SCHWARTZ: ...to address the traffic ....
COUNCILMAN TALBOT: Hold on. When somebody wanted to eliminate the dual lane
highway in Mattituck from Love Lane west to Wendy's deli, they wanted to make it a single lane
in either direction and I thought that was absurd.
MR. SCHWARTZ: And you said that you would not even consider it.
COUNCILMAN TALBOT: I wouldn't consider that.
MR. SCHWARTZ: Okay, well, but the process is that they make the suggestion, they happen to
be a respected member of the community ....
COUNCILMAN TALBOT: Well, that is fine. It is the same individual that designed the dog
shelter, that is a disaster as well.
MR. SCHWARTZ: It is?
COUNCILMAN TALBOT: Correct.
MR. SCHWARTZ: I didn't hear about that. You said the dog shelter is a disaster?
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: There are other members, well actually, the public and elected
officials that might want to speak, so I don't want to adjourn it until they get a ....
MR. SCHWARTZ: Well, I just would like to say, I am going to leave now but I would just like
to say that this personal animosity that I am getting from certain members of the Board is
inappropriate and unproductive and against the interests of this community, which is the reason
that I come here. To try and work with the town and the Town Board, I am not here for myself
and I have been called a lot of things but nobody has ever called me irrelevant or stupid and
made any sense about that. I am always talking about the issues. My point about the Fishers
Island was that the Fishers Island meeting begins and you can go now to the web site and watch
it on the web, I don't know if it is on the cablevision or not but it begins with and all I saw was
the beginning because the first time I tried to watch it, I couldn't, it wasn't operating properly,
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there was a malfunction with the technical equipment but now that it is working, before I came
here tonight I watched the first 10 minutes and it was Supervisor Russell thanking all the people
who put the meeting together and congratulating all of the people who were there in attendance
but you know, there was nobody in the first three rows, so everybody was sitting in the back of
the room and I just think we need a lot more people from the community involved and I am not
blaming you for that, I am saying that you know, we, this town is under a lot of pressure and we
have a lot of problems and I don't believe that they are being addressed sufficiently. Thank you.
Supt of Highways Peter Harris
PETE HARRIS, SUPERINTENDENT OF HIGHWAYS: Pete Harris, Superintendent of
Highways. Just a quick thank you to the Board for you passing the resolutions today for
purchasing, going out to bid and purchasing the two pieces of equipment off the state and county
contract. I am not going to stay up here long but I have got to give a little rebuttal here to, if
anyone for the general population of Southold Town that has never been to Fishers Island, has
never attended a Fishers Island Town Board meeting, what you see on the camera, on your
television, is just a tidbit of the business that is conducted that day, that every single person from
the town, whether it be Town Board members, Highway Superintendent, Town Clerk, building
department, planning department, we are greeted at that boat. I mean, we are just, they are just
waiting for us to come off the boat to interact with their problems. The Board meeting over
there, Benja, is no different than the Board meeting we are standing out right now. These chairs
are not filled with taxpayers, okay? Not that the taxpayers like yourself that have concerns, they
are not here. It is not that we are not trying to do our job, we are trying to do our job. But to tum
around and try to manipulate and pick apart what transpired on Fishers Island, you are not even
scratching the surface and I am sorry, because the fact of the matter was, a tremendous amount
of business, town business, was conducted that day. that is the day that we go over once a year
to meet with the citizenry of Fishers Island. Not like the fact that you are here every two weeks
and you have the opportunity to come up here, voice your concerns, ask questions, however,
these people, they are doing it once. And to go one step, now I am going to end that. Now I am
going to go on the MS4. This plan that the Supervisor, members of the Board spoke about, has
been on the books for approximately 1 ½ years, that they have turned around and finally have
figured the different locations, strategized the different locations as to where this $500,000 was
going to be used to mitigate stormwater mitigation going into Ashomomaque pond, a lot of it is
in the Ashomomaque pond area. i know I have seen it. I have seen the locations as to where the
work is supposed to be done and it is not a pie in the eye, it is bona fide plan that Mark Terry has
been working on for a very long period of time, Jamie Richter who is MS4 coordinator, so to say
that you know, you want to know where it is, it is on paper. Believe me, it is on paper. Thank
you very much.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I would also mention that the public is very aware, they are very
engaged, they are very concerned. The fact that they don't come to the meetings doesn't mean
they don't have your passion, they have your passion and then some. They also have lives and
jobs and families, so this isn't convenient for them to just come and they don't, I think, have as
flexible a schedule as you have. But they sure as heck try to find us and let us know, when we
are at the IGA or at, and we go out, we seek their input and we get very good attendance when
we alter the meetings at the various libraries to accommodate their schedules.
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Benja Schwartz
MR. SCHWARTZ: I am not here to talk about myself.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: I am sorry, before you start, there are also other forums where the
public participates and go back to what Pete Hams said about the MS4 program, we have got
citizen groups from Goldsmith Inlet, Fleets Neck and New Suffolk who have been extremely
active in helping, especially with new pooper scooper law that we enacted because dog waste is a
big part of the road runoff problem, that has been documented. And so, these people are, they
don't have to sit here in the front row to be active, they are out there, they are out there in the
community, they are doing the work on the ground for the town because they, and we really
appreciate that.
MR. SCHWARTZ: With all due respect, I am not just here in the front row, I am also out there
in the community. I am one of the leaders of those groups. Or is not those groups, of those
efforts. Where can, Superintendent Harris says that the MS4 proposal for this half million dollar
bond is on paper. Can I get a copy of that? Can I see it on the paper?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I encourage you to...
MR. SCHWARTZ: I will contact Mark Terry but I don't believe, is there something, I don't see
anything attached to this resolution specifying what it applies to.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Mark Terry will give you the specific plans and we will disclose the
DEC permits.
MR. SCHWARTZ: Well, can you have him contact me please? You have my contact
information.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I think that is a little presumptuous on your part. You can reach
Mark Terry at the planning office. Or Jamie Richter.
MR. SCHWARTZ: Well, I will give Mark a call but I am still waiting for an answer from Pete
Harris and ....
TOWN CLERK NEVILLE: Benja, I sent you an email. I got a receipt that you received it and
read it. Now if you had a question, why don't you...
MR. SCHWARTZ: No, I didn't receive it or read it yet.
TOWN CLERK NEVILLE: We had the meeting on the 2nd. I sent you an email with the
attachments with everything Peter sent me on Friday the 3ra.
MR. SCHWARTZ: I will check my email.
TOWN CLERK NEVILLE: Please.
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MR. SCHWARTZ: I haven't...
COUNCILMAN TALBOT: I think you already did and you opened it. You sent back the
response.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: That memory thing that I talked to you before. Can I get a motion
to adjoum?
Motion To: Adjourn Town Board Meeting
RESOLVED that this meeting of the Southold Town Board be and hereby is declared adjourned at 5:35
P.M.
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Southold Town Clerk
RESULT: ADOPTED [UNANIMOUS]
MOVER: Christopher Talbot, Councilman
SECONDER: Louisa P. Evans, Justice
AYES: Ruland, Orlando, Talbot, Krupski Jr., Evans, Russell