HomeMy WebLinkAboutPB-07/11/2011PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS
MARTIN H. SIDOR
Chair
WILLIAM J. CREMERS
KENNETH L. EDWARDS
JAMES H. RICH III
DONALD J. WILCENSKI
PLANNING BOARD OFFICE
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
MAILING ADDRESS:
P.O. Box 1179
Southold, NY 11971
OFFICE LOCATION:
Town Hall Annex
54375 State Route 25
(cor. Main Rd. & Youngs Ave.)
Southold, NY
Telephone: 631 765-1938
Fax: 631 765-3136
PUBLIC MEETING MINUTES
Present were:
Monday, July 11, 2011
6:00 p.m.
Martin H. Sidor, Chairperson
William J. Cremers, Member
Kenneth L. Edwards, Member
Donald J. Wilcenski, Member
Heather Lanza, Planning Director
Mark Terry, Principal Planner
Alyxandra Sabatino, Planner
Carol Kalin, Secretary
RECEIVED
AUG 9 2011
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SETTING OF THE NEXT PLANNING BOARD MEETING
Martin Sidor: Good evening, and welcome to the Southold Town Planning Board's
regularly-scheduled monthly Public Meeting. Our first order of business is to set
Monday, August 8, 2011 at 0 p.m. at the Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold,
as the time and place for the next regular Planning Board Public Meeting.
William Cremers: So moved.
Kenneth Edwards: Second.
Martin Sidor: Motion made and seconded. Any discussion? All in favor?.
Ayes.
Martin Sidor: Motion carries.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
6:00 p.m. - North Fork Community Theater - This proposed Lot Line Change will
increase SCTM#1000-141-04-26 from 0.15 acres to 0.41 acres. SCTM#1000-141-04-
32.1 will decrease from 2.613 acres to 2.35 acres. The property is located at 12700
Sound Avenue on the s/s/o Sound Avenue, 197.02 ft. e/o Pacific Street in Mattituck.
Martin Sidor: Anyone in the audience who wishes to address the Planning Board
regarding this application, please step forward, state your name and address, and write
your name and address for the record.
Karen Hoeq from the Law Firm of Twomey, Shea in Riverhead, NY. We represent the
applicant, North Fork Community Theater, which is a contract vendee for the purchase
of Lot #26 from the Mattituck Presbyterian Church. North Fork Community Theater
presently occupies the building pursuant to a lease agreement which is set to expire in
2012. The Mattituck Presbyterian Church is the owner of Lot #32.1 which is contiguous
to Lot #26. The application presented is for the re-subdivision lot line modification to
increase the area of Lot #26 from 6,683 sq. ft. to 17,964 sq. ft., creating a Lot #1. The
area of Lot #32.1 will decrease from 113,809 sq. ft. to 102,528 sq. ft., thereby creating
Lot #2 as shown on a survey that was submitted by NateTaft Corwin dated January 14.
To create Lot #1 and Lot #2, it is proposed that two new lot line boundaries be created
on the east and west side of Lot #26, the proposed Lot #1. Because the North Fork
Community Theater intends to remain in their current existing location, and due to the
close proximity of various gravesites existing on the property of the church, it was not
possible to create a more conforming lot than what we are able to. An application for
final (inaudible) was submitted to the Zoning Board of Appeals for variances for lot line
setbacks on the east and west sides of Lot #1. On April 20, the Zoning Board of
Appeals granted the lot area variance as well as the side and rear yard setback
variances. A copy of the Zoning Board's decision was submitted to the Planning
Department on April 27.
Martin Sidor: Thank you. Does the Board have any questions? Is there anyone else in
the audience who wishes to address the Planning Board regarding this application?
Hearing none .....
Donald Wilcenski: I make a motion we close the hearing.
William Cremers: Second.
Martin Sidor: Motion made and seconded. Any discussion? All in favor?
Ayes.
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Martin Sidor: Motion carries.
6:02 p.m. - Lieb Vines, LLC - This Site Plan is for the proposed conversion of an
existing 5,569 s.f. agricultural storage building to a wine-tasting room and dry storage
building, and includes a 10,427 s.f. bluestone parking lot and a 1,440 s.f. brick patio.
The property is located at 13050 Oregon Road, Cutchogue. SCTM#1000-83-3-2.1
Martin Sidor: Anyone in the audience who wishes to address the Planning Board
regarding this application, please step forward, state your name and address, and write
your name and address for the record.
Bill Kelly representing the owner, Mark Lieb: We don't really have any questions, I
don't think, and we are open to your questions as far as the site plan goes. We have
gone through your comments from the Work Session and don't have any major issues
with most of that as discussed earlier (inaudible).
Martin Sidor: Good. Any questions from the Planning Board?
Heather Lanza: Do you intend to hold outdoor special events at the site?
Bill Kelly: There is no intent to hold special events. Mark Lieb's daughter's wedding,
possibly, or something like that. The patio area is primarily going to be used just for
open tasting. Mark's whole idea here is there's a lot of traffic that comes down Oregon
Road that ends up at his house and wanting to do a wine tasting. He would prefer that
they have someplace else they could stop and accommodate them. That's primarily it.
We would not do anything that's not permitted under the Code. As far as what's
allowed, we want to be able to do what's allowed. We don't want to be segregated out
of that.
Heather Lanza: The other thought that we had was that building is actually quite large
for the site. Do you expect that there will be any expansion of a tasting room into the
storage area?
Bill Kelly: No, it actually really can't because that's a bonded area. The building was
there long before the idea of making a tasting room. The building accommodated both
farm equipment storage as well as the bonded case storage area, which is allowed.
The building has been built in the back on the ag reserve parcel to accommodate the
agricultural storage part. So what we are proposing, that would be the end of it. There
is really no more room to do anything else. I think we have actually extended as much
as we could. But the bonded room in the back-the storage area in the back--is a
bonded room and we cannot go into that.
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Heather Lanza: OK.
Martin Sidor: Any other questions from the Board? Anyone else in the audience
wishing to address the Planning Board regarding this application?
Ken Euring, 280 Wavecrest Lane, Mattituck: I live northwest of that area. It's been all
farmland, residential houses and we are being told by the Town they want to keep it for
agricultural. In the past couple of years, the wineries have events there up to 12:00.
I'm almost a mile away, and the noise is horrendous. Not all the time. You call their
number, nobody answers. They can't hear. It's out of hand. If we open the door up to
this.., let him put it on the Main Road, not on Oregon. You're familiar with Oregon, how
nice it is to travel, it's a country road. We've seen so many limousines going down
there back and forth. They're lined up to pull into the parking lot. It's no longer a
country road. You have a bunch of people--I'm one of the directors of the association
up there--and we're strongly against it.
Martin Sidor: Does anyone else from the audience wish to address the Board on this?
Abi.qail Wickham: I also represent Lieb Vines. If I am not mistaken, the gentleman who
just spoke--is it Wavecrest in Mattituck? Could I ask that? I just want the record to
reflect that his comments, while pertinent to many wineries, are not pertinent to this
particular application. Mr. Lieb, who lives close to this, is certainly aware of the
concerns and he is in farming, he is in agriculture, he has helped preserve some of the
character of Oregon Road and would hope to continue to do that. Thank you.
Martin Sidor: Thank you. Anyone else wishing to address the Planning Board on this
application? Anyone on the Board have any questions?
Kenneth Edwards: I'd like to offer a motion to close the hearing.
Donald Wilcenski: Second.
Martin Sidor: Motion made and seconded. Any discussion? All in favor?
Ayes.
Martin Sidor: Motion carries.
Kenneth Edwards: Mr. Chairman I would like to offer the following resolution:
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WHEREAS, This Site Plan is for the proposed conversion of an existing 5,569 sq. ft.
agricultural storage building to a wine-tasting room and dry storage building, and
includes a 10,427 sq. ft. bluestone parking lot and a 1,440 sq. ft. brick patio; and
WHEREAS, the applicant submitted an application for Site Plan review on April 15,
2011; and
WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board, pursuant to State Environmental
Quality Review (SEQR) 6 NYCRR, Part 617.5 (c) (3) has determined that the proposed
action is a Type II Action as it falls within the following description for 6 NYCRR, Part
617.5 (c) (2) "... rehabilitation or re-construction of a structure or facility, in kind, on the
same site"; be it therefore
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board has determined that this proposed
action is a Type II Action and not subject to review under SEQRA.
William Cremers: Second.
Martin Sidor: Motion made and seconded. Any discussion? All in favor?
Ayes.
Martin Sidor: Motion carries.
6:04 p.m. - Sherwood House Vineyards - This Site Plan is for the proposed
construction of two brick patios, one at 160 sq.ft, and the other 706 sq.ft, for an outdoor
wine tasting area that will include a 3,888 sq.ft, gravel parking lot with connecting paved
footpaths. The property is located at 2600 Oregon Road, +/- 460 ft. w/o Elijah's Lane in
Mattituck. SCTM#1000-100-4-5.3
Martin Sidor: I will be recusing myself and thereby turning this hearing over to our Vice
Chairman, Donald Wilcenski.
Donald Wilcenski: At this time, I would ask if anyone would like to speak to the Board,
please state and write your name and address for the record.
Patricia Moore: I'm here on behalf of Sherwood House Vineyards, Dr. & Mrs. Smithen.
What I have given you is a packet--I won't be quite as brief as your other hearings. I'm
sorry but I think that for the record I want to make sure that everything is included.
What we have is we've responded to a letter dated June 29 prepared by your planning
staff requesting certain changes to our site plan. The site plan is out in the hallway, we
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have modified and included many of the comments and points and changes that have
been requested. First and foremost, I'd like to address the parking. Let me back up.
Sherwood House Vineyard runs an outdoor seasonal tasting area. There are no
structures and, aside from the storage shed, it is all (inaudible) during the season during
daylight hours for the most part, and it is about as inocuous a use as could be expected
as a wine tasting area. They have been operating this open air tasting for the last 12
years and it is on part of the same property we are relocating it to Oregon Road, as you
know, at the request of Land Preservation. I reserve my rights with respect to the
argument of whether or not it can be done on development rights land, but rather than
go to court and deal with that argument, my client agreed to come in with this site plan
application to bring it over to the non-development rights portion of the property. In
order to do that, the Board wanted us to get site plan approval.
We received a letter that asked us to provide at least 35 parking spaces. At the work
session, Bill appeared on my behalf and what we discovered is that in order to come up
with that many parking spaces, you would actually have to be site planning a 7,000 sq.
fl. building. That is clearly not what we are doing here--we have a few square feet of
outdoor tasting area. In addition, I looked at other facilities. Two, for example, where I
looked to see what was a 35-36 parking spaces and what instances were those number
of parking spaces required, I found some Town records that the Christina Vineyard-~
now Macari--has 36 parking spaces. That was based on a 5,000 sq. ft. winery building
and a little over 2,400 sq. ft. tasting room. A second example is Bidwell Winery with 33
parking spaces. That was a site plan based on a 7,000 sq. ft. winery and a 2,000 sq. ft.
tasting area. Given the historic calculations of parking, the request being made in that
letter seemed highly irrational and unreasonable. Nevertheless, we tried to make as
many concessions and we tried to provide as much conformity as we could. So what
we did is we showed the parking area--you have it in your packet--a color rendering. I
have a larger version. I apologize that it's a little small, but you should be able to see
the areas pretty clearly. What we did is we showed the parking of nine spaces along
the west side of the property, with a handicapped space--all compliant with handicap
code--also compliant with drainage. We also show the 25' setback from the road and
compliance with the entrances and so on. We have provided a site plan that shows
nine spaces, one of which is handicap accessible. We have also identified on this site
plan parking of an additional nine spaces, for a total of 18 spaces on site. Those
spaces I would suggest would be more appropriately land-banked rather than improved,
because the whole business philosophy of Sherwood House is a garden setting--
natural, open--less is more. And that has been the way that they have been
functioning for the number of years that they have been in operation. To build out more
parking in this site would change the look that they would prefer to emphasize on this
property. Can they do it? Yes. Will they? If they are told "you must", they are certainly
willing to do it. Does it make sense? Is it appropriate? I would urge you to reconsider
and not require development of more parking than really is necessary.
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In addition to dealing with the issue of parking, the letter asked us to get a legally-
binding lease, which we were able to get. We had something in writing from our
neighbor, Robert Roehl. I prepared a lease and it is submitted as part of the packet. I
obviously deleted the rent and the liability insurance coverage because it is a public
record of a private document. Nevertheless, it is adequate and it is binding and
executed by both parties. What we also have is a site plan which was provided to me
by the architect. I asked him to calculate generally how much parking in the field across
from the site could be accommodated. He said absolutely, unquestionably there is
more than 35 spaces just in the field across the way. He prepared a very simple
diagram at my request showing the parking spaces based on size, flow through and so
on and he provides one of those forms for the Board. I will put it into your record
because it does have the parking and it shows at least 36 spaces. He doesn't even
identify the parking all the way to the back of the property. We have 100' back and he
stops at a certain point. (inaudible) We feel we have addressed the parking-certainly
the parking needs of this property. The owner who operates the business knows what
their parking needs are. We've identified it but we've also added additional parking at
the Board's request. And the additional parking across the way when and if necessary.
Beyond the parking issue, there were just general site plan issues which I've shown on
this site plan and again it is on the larger scale. I think Dr. Smithen provided the Board
with a large scale drawing--one of you lucky people has the large scale version. The
other ones have to concentrate a little bit with a smaller scale. We can provide more
oversize scale if you need it. In any case, the area in front of the parking is the 25'
setback. That will be a perennial garden. Dr. Smithen is an avid gardener. His property
reflects his care and gardening skills. Pretty much everything you see there--all the
beautiful trees--have been planted by him. It is just a very lush setting. What we have
done is on the site plan identified it as an area for the perennial garden. There are also
existing trees, so those are identified as well.
An issue which we would ask you to consider is--we have an evergreen buffer along the
west side of the parking area. What I did is I gave you a couple of photographs. The
first photograph I have in the packet shows the existing buffer. What may have been
somewhat confusing for the staff when they went out to look: the parking area had been
started--the grass had been cleared--and the contractor actually (John Maiser) did not
go to the limit of the property. The original site plan as you will recall had a 5' setback
from the property line. He was actually out there measuring and looking and trying to
make things look the best. He had actually started the parking area away from the
property line. So, at the request of the Board having a 10' setback, that is in fact what
is built out. Obviously it's not finished, but it shows where the area of clearing. So you
can see from the property line and the extra grass that in order for us to comply with
your request to put in evergreens and an additional planting, we would have to clear the
area in order to plant the area. That, we believe again would change the character of
the property as well as upset our neighbor. The neighbor likes that natural buffer. You
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can see from the way he maintains his house, he likes everything very natural, which is
fine. My client similarly likes that look. So, we would ask the Board to keep it as
natural. If we were ever to remove the natural buffer, then certainly we could plant it.
But that's not the intent. Let's keep it as undeveloped as possible. That is the goal
here--to keep it looking as simple as possible. Among the photographs, the second
photograph I gave you, Dr. Smithen is hanging out there with a cigar in his mouth; he
and I were measuring and confirming measurements. The third photograph I gave you
is that open field that is leased directly across from the property. You can see it as a
flat, open grass field. By the way, Cornell Cooperative this weekend had a sale and I
parked in an open field just like this and went across and used their facilities, bought
plants and toured. That is a very common practice, particularly when the need for
excess parking really is on a limited basis and of limited use. The final picture I include
because I went by there--I'm sure you all know Oregon Road well enough--but I saw
that a little bit down east of this property, one of the farmers parked all his farm
vehicles. It's very quaint. I don't know which farmer--it looks very nice. You can see
that is a common practice on Oregon Road--the lining of the ag trucks-and it goes
several rows deep. That is in character with Oregon Road.
We are certainly going to deal with the pool CO; that's a very simplistic issue. We have
a fence presently but we are adding a fence to that, so that's not a problem. We have
at your request identified the location of the dumpster which we would propose to
enclose with a fence. You can see it just south of the parking area. We also show the
portable sanitary--the port-a-potty--which is actually a very attractive kind of custom
port-a-potty. The ag fueling station is actually 89' into the ag piece on the development
rights property: you just wanted to have an idea of approximately where it sat in relation
to the property line, and that's an approximation. We have provided in that packet
lighting cuts. The lighting: again, we want to keep everything very Iow impact, very
natural. There are some dark sky compliant lights which are really intended to keep it
at Iow canopy lighting on the property, obviously. We understand curb cuts and
requirements that we have to meet there. With respect to drainage, there are two
drainage rings that have been installed in the parking area. They are already built out,
they are pre-cast, the dimensions of which are on the site plan. That will take in all of
our drainage requirements from the pervious parking area. We would suggest a
discussion with Jamie Richter again because this is not trying to stay natural we want to
try to use natural pitched drainage rather than building out large drainage structures
when we have grass and natural area pitching the structures towards the grass--
keeping everything obviously the Code requires us to keep the water on the property
which certainly that will be the case, but within the property it doesn't make sense to
build out large drainage structures for small depths and walkways, so we would ask for
a discussion with Jamie about that.
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The last two items are they haybale silt fence which is again standard and the handicap
compliance parking. We are aware of handicap compliance and it will be a handicap
compliant space. I believe that we have addressed all the points that the Board asked
my client to incorporate into the site plan. We hope that the Board will take their historic
parking calculations into consideration when you are coming up with the calculation of
parking. In a sense, you are penalizing the client because he doesn't have a building.
If he had a building, it would be clear what his parking requirements are. Because he
has no building, you are asking for a highly exaggerated parking schedule. If there are
any questions, I'd be happy to address them.
Donald Wilcenski: Does anyone from the Board wish to ask Pat more questions?
Staff?
Bill Cremers: In the beginning you said that a shed was going to be there and I don't
see a shed on the drawing.
Pat Moore: Yah, they have right now just a little under 200 sq. ft. storage shed that is
used for the bottles. I apologize, it's not being put over here...
Heather Lanza: Could you just explain a little bit how the site is going to function? In
other words, where is the person going to stand who is serving the wine--are they
going to have a portable thing that is going to be put there--is there going to be a
shade over them--where are you going to store the wine.., logistically just explain how
that is all going to work.
Pat Moore: I park and walk up that pathway. You see the first circle shown as 14' wide
area .....
Barbara Smithen, 2600 Oregon Road, Mattituck: So there will be a bar and it will have
an umbrella because you're going to need shade. Then where it's 25.0 we will have
seating there. There will be picnic tables in front of that.
Heather Lanza: Where are you going to store the stuff that you serve?
Barbara Smithen: We have a shed on the property--our own property--that's where
we go and get the wine from.
Heather Lanza: OK, thanks. I have a couple more questions. Are you intending to
hold special events at this particular site?
Barbara Smithen: No.
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Pat Moore: I would reserve the right to do whatever the Code allows us to do. At this
time, they don't have any events planned. But we certainly have enough parking for it.
They've never had any special events for which a permit is necessary.
Heather Lanza: That's what I'm talking about. Is there a plan to have amplified live
music at the location?
Pat Moore: Not amplified, no.
Heather Lanza: I notice that this new plan has lights on it. Are you considering being
open during the night?
Barbara Smithen: In October, when it gets dark, there will be solar lights just at the
parking area.
Pat Moore: Toward the end of the season you get into October. During the harvest
season the wineries have activities, but it gets chilly and it's weather-dependent.
Heather Lanza: Today I had a call from our Code Enforcement Officer and he was
talking about the existing tasting area on the Development Rights Sold land. He said
that the Town was requiring that that stop because it wasn't allowed in the Easement.
My question to you for the record is: are you still operating there; are you planning on
stopping that anytime soon?
Pat Moore: I think it's irrelevant to this application and I'm not going to have my client
speak on it. We have a justice court and we may have a trial, so I prefer that it not be
discussed. If the Code Enforcement Officer wants to pursue it in court, we're there and
we'll be happy to pursue it. But it honestly has nothing to do with this. Our whole goal
here is to relocate and we've made a really strong effort to do that.
Heather Lanza: OK, that's all I have. Thank you.
Bill Cremers: About the Notice of Meeting: I drove down Oregon Road and I did not
notice the sign being up.
Pat Moore: It was up.
Barbara Smithen: I think somebody stole it for an hour and I found it in the bushes at
3:00 and I put it back. A fellow by the name of Bill Burroughs stopped by there and
introduced himself. He was writing down the information. That was about 2:30/3:00.
Donald Wilcenski: If there is bad weather, do you have any intentions of putting a tent
up, or are you going to be closed?
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Pat Moore: A tent is a temporary structure, so it would be permissible and it's the
same area we are talking about site planning. I don't want them to say "no, never" or
"yes, maybe" or whatever. I think it depends on how things go. They do have another
year-round facility in Jamesport--this is the Iow-impact kind of garden setting-but they
are not precluded from having a tent if they choose to have one.
Donald Wilcenski: Thank you. Anybody else? From the Board or staff?
Bill Cremers: Just a question on the lighting: you just have lighting around the parking
area. How about where people are sitting--if it's dark, you have no lighting back there.
Pat Moore: It just shows a couple of--do you see those little yellow dots--that's it.
Bill Cremers: Nothing by the picnic tables? In the back?
Pat Moore: In this area? No. Again, it's very Iow impact.
Bill Cremers: And strictly solar?
Barbara Smithen: Yes.
Donald Wilcenski: Anybody else? From the Board or staff? OK. Thank you, Pat, Mrs.
Smithen. At this time I'd ask anybody else from the audience if they would like to speak
in regard to Sherwood House Vineyards. Please step forward and state your name and
write your name.
Ken Euring: I believe in the past I've seen some canopies up there; we've stopped for
wine by their benches. The young lady who takes care of serving the wine was under
the canopies. There is umbrellas or some form of cover there to keep them out of the
sun. I'm looking at the whole thing-on Oregon--both the vineyards. If you let one, you
gotta let 'em all, or put the restrictions that it's not past a certain time and the music--if it
goes past their property line--but within reason. And the amount of cars because on
the weekends there's a bunch of limousines--I won't repeat myself anymore. Most of
you know the questions that we're interested in. Thank you.
Donald Wilcenski: Anybody else from the audience who would like to speak to the
Board? Pat, would you like to add anything else?
Pat Moore: No, I think the site plan speaks for itself and we hope that you will approve
this as quickly as possible since Damon would like us to open up here as soon as
possible.
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Donald Wilcenski: OK. Thank you. With that, I would like to get a motion to close the
hearing.
William Cremers: So moved.
Kenneth Edwards: Second.
Donald Wilcenski: Motion made and seconded. Any discussion? All in favor?
Ayes.
Donald Wilcenski: Against? Motion carries. Now I'll turn it back over to Marry for the
next hearing.
6:06 p.m. - Pindar Vineyards - This Site Plan is for the proposed re-location of a 3,259
sq. ft. steel agricultural storage building from an adjacent parcel. The building is 82' x
39' with a height of 15', and will be located 600' n/o NYS Rte. 25. The property is
located at 4195 Rte. 25, 1,132' +/- w/o Peconic Lane in Peconic. SCTM#1000-86-1-15
Martin Sidor: Anyone in the audience who wishes to address the Planning Board
regarding this application, please step forward, state your name and address, and write
your name and address for the record. Hearing none ......
Bill Cremers: I'll make a motion to close the hearing.
Donald Wilcenski: Second.
Martin Sidor: Motion made and seconded. Any discussion? All in favor?
Ayes.
Martin Sidor: Motion carries.
Donald Wilcenski: Mr. Chairman, I will offer the following resolution:
WHEREAS, this Site Plan is for the proposed re-location of a 3,259 sq. ft. steel
agricultural storage building from an adjacent parcel. The building is 82' x 39' with a
height of 15', and will be located 600 ft. n/o NYS Rt. 25. Additionally, there is an
existing 740 sq. ft. hoop-house for Barb's Veggies, located 50' n/o NYS Rt. 25, and a
pre-existing 384 sq. ft. non-conforming farm stand located 25' n/o NYS Rt. 25; and
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WHEREAS, the applicant submitted an application for Site Plan review on May 5,2011;
and
WHEREAS, at a Work Session on May 23,2011, the Planning Board accepted the
application for review; and
WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board, pursuant to State Environmental
Quality Review (SEQR) 6 NYCRR, Part 617.5 (c) (3) has determined that the proposed
action is a Type II Action as it falls within the following description for 6 NYCRR, Part
617.5 (c) (3) "agricultural farm management practices, including construction...of farm
buildings and structures..." and not subject to review under SEQRA; and
WHEREAS, on May 26, 2011, the Planning Board, pursuant to Southold Town Code
{}280-131 C., distributed the application to the required agencies for their comments;
and
WHEREAS, on June 9, 2011, the Southold Town Architectural Review Committee
reviewed and determined that the proposed storage building was acceptable; and
WHEREAS, on June 15, 2011, the Southold Fire District determined there was
adequate fire protection and emergency access for the site; and
WHEREAS, on June 23, 2011, the Town of Southold LWRP Coordinator reviewed the
above- referenced project and has recommended the proposed project be found
consistent with Southold Town LWRP policies with the condition that an archaeologist
be present on-site during excavation of the drainage and foundation. The area is
identified as an "archaeo-sensitive area" by the New York State Historic Preservation
Office; and
WHEREAS, on July 5, 2011, the Southold Town Engineer reviewed the above-
referenced application and has determined the project to provide adequate drainage
and the proposed drainage meets the minimum requirements of Chapter 236 for Storm
Water Management; and
WHEREAS, on July 11,2011, the Southold Town Chief Building Inspector reviewed
and certified the proposed Site Plan as a permitted use in the A-C Zoning District; and
WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board, pursuant to {}280-133 C of the
Southold Town Code, has the discretion to waive any or all of the requirements in {}280-
133 for those applications involving uses strictly related to agriculture as long as they
are not necessary to further the objectives set forth in Town Code {}280-129 to maintain
public health, safety, and welfare. The Planning Board has found that this application is
eligible for a waiver of certain elements of the site plan requirements because it is an
agricultural use; and
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WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board, pursuant to Southold Town Code
§280-131 B (5), has the discretion to vary or waive the parking requirements for Site
Plan Applications where doing so would not have a detrimental effect on the public
health, safety or general welfare, and will not have the effect of nullifying the intent and
provision of the Site Plan Requirements chapter of the Town Code. The Planning Board
has found that this application is eligible for a waiver of parking requirements because
there is no need to provide for parking - the application is for an agricultural use and
part of an active farm operation and the parcel is large in size relative to the proposed
structure. Further, neither building will be open to the public; and
WHEREAS, at a Work Session held on July 11, 2011, the Planning Board found that all
applicable requirements of the Site Plan Regulations Article XXIV, §280 - Site Plan
Approval of the Town of Southold have been met; be it therefore
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board hereby waives certain elements of
the Site Plan requirements as noted above;
William Cremers: Second.
Martin Sidor: Motion made and seconded. Any discussion? All in favor?
Ayes.
Martin Sidor: Motion carries.
Donald Wilcenski: and be it further RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning
Board hereby waives the parking requirements as noted above;
William Cremers: Second.
Martin Sidor: Motion made and seconded. Any discussion? All in favor?
Ayes.
Martin Sidor: Motion carries.
Donald Wilcenski: and be it further RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning
Board has determined that this proposed action is consistent with the policies of the
Town of Southold Local Waterfront Revitalization Program with the condition that an
archaeologist be on site during excavation of the drainage trenches;
Kenneth Edwards: Second.
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Martin Sidor: Motion made and seconded. Any discussion? All in favor?
Ayes.
Martin Sidor: Motion carries.
Donald Wilcenski: and be it further RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning
Board grants Approval to the Site Plan entitled "Pindar Vineyards Storage Building"
prepared by Charles W. Southard, Jr. on March 10, 2011, and last revised by Pindar
Damianos on June 20, 2011, and authorizes the Chairman to endorse the Site Plan.
William Cremers: Second.
Martin Sidor: Motion made and seconded. Any discussion? All in favor?
Ayes.
Martin Sidor: Motion carries.
6:08 p.m. - Manor Grove Corp. - This proposal is for an 80/60 Conservation
Subdivision of a 29.8-acre parcel into 2 lots where Lot 1=0.72 acres (31,450 sq. ft.) is
clustered in the LB Zoning District and Lot 2=28.74 acres to be preserved as open
space in the R-80 & LB Zoning Districts. The property is located on the n/e corner of
Albertson Lane & Main Road (S.R. 25) in Greenport. SCTM#1000-53-1-1.2 & 1.3
Martin Sidor: Anyone in the audience who wishes to address the Planning Board
regarding this application, please step forward, state your name and address, and write
your name and address for the record.
Randy Parsons, Nature Conservancy: We are working with the Town of Southold and
Suffolk County and the Manor Grove Corporation to put this project together. You've
described it as basically putting the existing house and two barns on their own lot. The
former farm stand there will come down after the acquisition and the proposal to sell a
20' strip to the motel complex next door to take care of some septic systems that are
over the property line.
Martin Sidor: Thank you. Anyone else in the audience who wishes to address the
Planning Board regarding this application? Anyone from the Planning Board or staff
having any questions regarding this application? Hearing none ......
Donald Wilcenski: I make a motion to close the hearing.
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William Cremers: Second.
Martin Sidor: Motion made and seconded. Any discussion? All in favor?
Ayes.
Martin Sidor: Motion carries.
6:10 p.m. - Droskoski & Sepenoski - This proposed Lot Line Change will transfer
13,872 sq. ft. from SCTM#1000-18-4-7.8 to SCTM#1000-18-4-7.4. SCTM#1000-18-4-
7.4 will increase in size from 38,880 sq. ft. to 52,752 sq. ft. after the proposed lot line
change is complete in the R-80 Zoning District. The properties are located at 27835
NYS Route 25 on the s/w corner of the intersection of Brown's Hill Road & NYS Route
25 in Orient.
Martin Sidor: Anyone in the audience who wishes to address the Planning Board
regarding this application, please step forward, state your name and address, and write
your name and address for the record.
Stanley Droskoski: Good evening, members of the Board. I am the applicant of this lot
line change. I think it's a very simple thing. We've complied with the requests of the
Board posting the signs and submitting the letters for signatures.., so on and so forth.
It basically just increases my property by I think 1/3 acre and straightens out a property
line. The farm itself has been sold to Land Preservation, so nothing will go on on the
piece of property. I just wanted to be here to answer any questions that you may have.
Martin Sidor: Thank you. Does anyone from the Board or staff have any questions?
Anyone in the audience who wishes to address the Board about this application?
Thank you. Hearing none .......
Donald Wilcenski: I make a motion we close the hearing.
William Cremers: Second.
Martin Sidor: Motion made and seconded. Any discussion? All in favor?
Ayes.
Martin Sidor: Motion carries. Thank you all. That ends our Public Meeting part of the
agenda.
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SUBDIVISIONS - SKETCH DETERMINATIONS
Winston, Eve - This proposal is a standard subdivision of a 5.58-acre parcel into two
lots, where Lot 1= 1.85 acres (80,625 sq. ft.) and Lot 2 = 3.73 acres (162,418 sq. ft.) in
the R-80 Zoning District. The property is located at 3450 Private Road #13, Mattituck.
SCTM#1000-105-1-4
William Cremers: Mr. Chairman, I will offer the following:
WHEREAS, this proposal is a standard subdivision of a 5.58 acre parcel into two lots,
where Lot 1= 1.85 acres (80,625 s.f.) and Lot 2 -- 3.73 acres (162,418 s.f.) in the R-80
Zoning District; and
WHEREAS, a Sketch Plan Application was submitted on June 16, 2009; and
WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board reviewed the plans at their August 24,
2009 Work Session and accepted the application for review; and
WHEREAS, on April 27, 2010, the Sketch Plan was referred to the Town Engineer,
Suffolk County Planning Commission and the Mattituck Fire Department for comments;
and
WHEREAS, on May 18, 2010, comments from the Mattituck Fire District Board of
Commissioners were received and a new hydrant was requested if public water were to
be made available to this parcel; and
WHEREAS, on June 4, 2010, the Southold Town Planning Department Staff conducted
a site visit to view the frame barn and the access road to the parcel; and
WHEREAS, on June 11, 2010, the Southold Town Planning Staff sent a letter to the
applicant requesting that significant trees be identified on the plan, and that a proposed
driveway avoid as many trees as possible. The letter also notified the applicant that the
frame barn appeared to be used as a second residence and that it was not Code
compliant; and
WHEREAS, on June 14, 2010, the Town Engineer responded with comments regarding
drainage requirements; and
WHEREAS, on July 2, 2010, the Suffolk County Planning Commission responded with
the comment that this is a matter for local determination. Their letter contained
additional comments for the Planning Board's consideration, including the following:
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1. Require the private right-of-way be built to Town specifications and be dedicated
to the Town;
2. Flag the top of bluff & the Coastal Erosion Hazard Area Line and verify by a
qualified professional;
3. Require a written acknowledgment that the approval of this subdivision does not
commit the Town to a program to protect this property from shoreline erosion,
that the applicant is aware of the severe erosion problem at this location;
4. No structure or grading should be located within 100' of the top of the bluff;
5. No storm water run-off should be discarded to the bluff;
6. Direct private access to the beach should be limited to community or public
access features; and
WHEREAS, at their Work Session on October 4, 2010, the Planning Board discussed
this application and reviewed comments from referring agencies; and
WHEREAS, on October 12, 2010, the Planning Department sent a request for
additional comments from the Mattituck Fire District based on the Planning Board's
Work Session discussion regarding the narrow existing driveway to the parcel; and
WHEREAS, on October 29, 2010, the Mattituck Fire District responded repeating their
previous comments; and
WHEREAS, at their Work Session on December 13, 2010, the Planning Board
discussed the access to the parcel and a draft letter to the applicant which requested
that a plan be submitted with details showing that the private access way to the parcel
could be improved to meet the minimum standards for emergency access, while also
avoiding as many significant trees as possible; and
WHEREAS, on December 13, 2010, the Planning Department sent the letter as
discussed at the 12/13/10 Work Session; and
WHEREAS, on January 6, 2011, the applicant submitted plans for the proposed Access
Roadway Plan; and
WHEREAS, at their Work Session on January 31,2011, the Planning Board discussed
this application and reviewed the submission of the Proposed Access Roadway Plan
showing the alternate access and significant trees; and
WHEREAS, on February 1,2011, the Planning Department sent a letter to follow up the
Planning Board's Work Session discussion where the Board requested the access way
be flagged for a site visit; and
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WHEREAS, on February 9,2011, the Planning Board conducted a site visit to review
the access way and the significant trees; and
WHEREAS, on February 11,2011, a revised proposed Access Roadway Plan was
submitted to the Planning Board to illustrate how the significant trees were avoided; and
WHEREAS, at their Work Session on February 14,2011, the Planning Board reviewed
the site visit and the revised proposed Access Roadway Plan; and
WHEREAS, on February 23,2011, the Planning Department sent the revised proposed
Access Roadway Plan to the Mattituck Fire District for their review; and
WHEREAS, on March 3, 2011, the applicant sent a revised proposed Access Roadway
Plan illustrating drainage requirements missing from the previous revision; and
WHEREAS, on March 3,2011, the Town Engineer reviewed the above-revised
Roadway Plan and found that the drainage requirements were met; and
WHEREAS, on March 18, 2011, the Mattituck Fire District responded repeating their
previous comments; and
WHEREAS, at their Work Session on May 23, 2011, the Planning Board discussed this
application and made the following recommendations:
· Applicant to submit a Yield Plan demonstrating the lots meet the minimum lot
size requirement in Town Code; and
· Provide proof that the beach access easement for The Fields of Mattituck shown
on previous drafts of the Sketch Plan does not legally exist; and
WHEREAS, on June 22,2011, a revised Sketch Plan and a revised proposed Access
Roadway Plan were submitted to the Planning Board; and
WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board reviewed the revised plans at their
June 27,2011 Work Session and found that this application met the Town Code
requirements for Sketch Plan and was ready for Sketch Plan determination; be it
therefore
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board hereby grants Sketch Plan
Approval upon the map prepared by L.K. McLean Associates, P.C. entitled "Eve
Winston Property Standard Subdivision Sketch Plan" dated November 5, 2007 last
revised June 30, 2011.
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Kenneth Edwards: Second the motion.
Martin Sidor: Motion made and seconded. Any discussion? All in favor?
Ayes.
Martin Sidor: Motion carries.
SUBDIVISIONS - CONDITIONAL PRELIMINARY DETERMINATIONS
James Creek Landin.q - This proposal is to subdivide a split-zoned parcel into five lots
where Lot 1 = 89,257 sq. ft. inclusive of a 44,604 sq. ft. Open Space Easement Area;
Lot 2 = 90,713 sq. ft. inclusive of a 50,351 sq. ft. Open Space Easement Area; Lot 3 =
237,667 sq. ft. inclusive of a 57,878 sq. ft. Open Space Easement Area; and Lot 4 =
159,987 sq. ft. inclusive of a 75,152 sq. ft. Open Space Easement Area in the R-80
Zoning District. Lot 5 = 77,747 sq. ft. inclusive of 14,596 sq. ft. of Open Space
Easement Area and is located in the B Zoning District. The property is located on the
west side of Main Road, approximately 280' south of New Suffolk Avenue in Mattituck.
SCTM#1000-122-3-1.4
Kenneth Edwards: Mr. Chairman, I will offer the following resolution:
WHEREAS, this proposal is to subdivide a split-zoned parcel into five lots where Lot 1 =
89,257 sq. ft. inclusive of a 44,604 sq. ft. Open Space Easement Area; Lot 2 = 90,713
sq. ft. inclusive of a 50,351 sq. ft. Open Space Easement Area; Lot 3 = 237,667 sq. ft.
inclusive of a 57,878 sq. ft. Open Space Easement Area; and Lot 4 -- 159,987 sq. ft.
inclusive of a 75,152 sq. ft. Open Space Easement Area in the R-80 Zoning District.
Lot 5 = 77,747 sq. ft. inclusive of 14,596 sq. ft. of Open Space Easement Area and is
located in the B Zoning District; and
WHEREAS, on November 17, 2004, the New York Department of Environmental
Conservation issued a Negative Declaration for the action pursuant to Article 8 of the
Environmental Conservation Law 6 NYCRR Part 617; and
WHEREAS, on January 7, 2005, the New York Department of Environmental
Conservation issued a Tidal Wetlands Permit for the action; and
WHEREAS, the New York Department of Environmental Conservations Permit
(Number 1-4738-03087/00001) expired on January 5, 2010; and
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WHEREAS, on February 13, 2006, the Southold Town Planning Board issued Sketch
Approval upon the map prepared by Nathaniel Taft Corwin, III, L.S., dated July 12,
2005; and
WHEREAS, on January 29, 2008, the Suffolk County Planning Commission issued a
response citing a past review of the action which outlined 16 conditions and noted that
Condition #6 has not been addressed; and
WHEREAS, Condition #6 states: "The proposed access for the lots shall be set off as a
road and not as a right-of-way. It shall be given a distinct name to facilitate the location
of the properties served by it by fire, police and other emergency and service units. The
subdivision shall offer this road to the Town of Southold for dedication as a public road";
and
WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board considered the condition and rejects
Condition #6 requiring that the applicant dedicate the entire road as public; and
WHEREAS, on February 13, 2008, the Mattituck Fire Department issued a letter
requiring that "a fire hydrant be placed on the east side of State Route 25 on the
proposed Lot #5"; and
WHEREAS, on January 5, 2011, the applicant verbally requested the Southold Town
Planning Board to extend the Sketch Approval for 180 days to allow additional time to
address alternative access and negotiate acceptable design of the subdivision; and
WHEREAS, on March 28, 2011, a Work Session was held on the action; and
WHEREAS, the Planning Board agreed to retroactively extend Sketch Approval from
August 13, 2006 to June 13, 2011; and
WHEREAS, on March 29, 2011, the applicant submitted a Preliminary Plat Application;
and
WHEREAS, on April 14, 2011, the Southold Town Planning Board approved the
Extension of Sketch Plan Approval to June 13, 2011; and
WHEREAS, on May 9, 2011, a Preliminary Public Hearing was held and closed on the
action; and
WHEREAS, on June 13, 2011, the Sketch Approval expired; and
WHEREAS, on June 27, 2011, a letter from the applicant requesting an Extension of
Sketch Plan Approval was submitted to the Planning Board; and
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WHEREAS, at their Work Session on July 11,2011, the Planning Board agreed to
defer the planting of street trees for this subdivision to a time in the future when Lot 5, a
commercially zoned lot, is subject to a Site Plan approval process. This decision was
based on the fact that numerous trees already exist along the proposed road, and a
future Site Plan on Lot 5 will need flexibility to locate the driveway and buildings. This
requirement will be memorialized in a Covenant on Lot 5 requiring the full number of
street trees required by the Code to be planted on Lot 5; and
WHEREAS, the application for Preliminary Plat has been found to meet the
requirements of Section 240 of the Southold Town Code; be it therefore,
RESOLVED, that the Southold Planning Board rejects the Suffolk County Planning
Commission's Condition #6 requiring that the entire road be dedicated as public;
William Cremers: Second.
Martin Sidor: Motion made and seconded. Any discussion? All in favor?
Ayes.
Martin Sidor: Motion carries.
Kenneth Edwards: and be it further RESOLVED, that Sketch Plan Approval is
extended to July 11,2011;
William Cremers: Second.
Martin Sidor: Motion made and seconded. Any discussion? All in favor?
Ayes.
Martin Sidor: Motion carries.
Kenneth Edwards: and be it further RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning
Board hereby grants Conditional Preliminary Plat Approval upon the Preliminary
Subdivision Plat entitled "Standard Subdivision of James Creek Landing" prepared by
Nathaniel Taft Corwin, III dated July 12, 2005 and last revised on March 12, 2011. This
approval is conditioned upon the successful submission and acceptance of the
following items/conditions:
1. Submission of a Final Plat Application meeting all the requirements of Section
240 of the Town Code.
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2. Submission of a Final Plat with the following amendments:
a. Show the existing dock and proposed community dock. Verify that the
existing dock does not encroach on adjacent lot lines.
b. Clearly show limits of clearing on each lot. Label each area "Limit of
Clearing".
c. Lot 2: Vegetation is shown over the existing driveway. Please omit.
d. Lot 4: Indicate if the 16' secondary future access driveway to New Suffolk
Avenue will be constructed of pervious materials. Include drainage for the
driveway on the Road and Drainage Plan/Storm Water Pollution
Prevention Plan (SWPPP).
e. Lot 4: Show the proposed horse corral layout including any shelters.
Note shelters shall not be located within the open space area.
f. Lot 5: Remove the setbacks shown.
g. Label and provide the acreage for the electric easement. List all
easements in effect (SCDOH) on the plat.
h. Show one street light at the cul-de-sac.
i. Move zoning district notations to improve clarity.
j. Remove notation "50' wide private road to be owned by the Homeowners
Association" from the plat and note that the road from Rt. 25 to the R-80
zoning district line will be dedicated to the Town, and the road beyond that
point will be private.
k. Correct all notations on Final Plat to reflect amendments.
3. Submit a copy of the Homeowners Association documents (The James Creek
Landing Association, Inc.) The Planning Board is requiring that a 50' right-of-way
and a 28' paved road will be established to the B/R-80 Zoning District line
(southwest property boundary of Lot 5). This road section will be dedicated to the
Town. From that point west, the right-of-way will remain 50' in width, however,
the road will be reduced to 16' in width and remain private.
a. Include a distinctive street name for the proposed 50' wide public road.
b. Include maintenance language for the private road, secondary driveway,
common pedestrian access to James Creek and common dock.
i. The clearing and/or removal of vegetation within the private 50'
wide right-of-way is limited to that necessary to establish and
maintain the 16' wide gravel road and vegetation that is threatening
to life and/or property.
c. Curb cuts allowing ingress and egress to State Route 25 shall be reduced
to one (50' wide right-of-way). The curb-cut over Lot 5 allowing ingress
and egress to S.R. 25 shall be abandoned.
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d. The 16' wide future access driveway shall not be constructed until proof of
access over SCTM#1000-114-12-4.1 is provided and acknowledged by
the Planning Board.
e. All storm water run-off generated by the placement of fill or any other
proposed development must comply with Town Code Chapter 236 for
storm water management.
f. Prior to construction activity on any of the lots within the subdivision, the
project will require a General Permit for storm water run-off from
construction activity administered by the New York State Department of
Environmental Conservation Under Phase II State Pollutant Discharge
Elimination System.
g. Acknowledge the required clearing limits for each lot and indicate that
these areas shall remain in a natural state.
h. Indicate that the use of synthetic herbicides and fertilizers capable of
entering surface waters or ground water on each lot is prohibited.
i. All utilities serving each lot shall be located underground.
4. Submission of Final Road and Drainage Plans.
a. The r-o-w/roadway immediately adjacent to Lots 2, 3 & 4 should
be expanded to meet the minimum requirements of Town Code
under Highway Specifications for the construction of a cul-de-sac.
However, the area required for a cul-de-sac will reduce the area
of open space. The amount of acreage is unknown at this time. It
is recommended that the amount of open space acreage lost due
to the design of the cul-de-sac be mitigated on Lot 4.
b. Include a cross section and drainage for the 16' wide future
access driveway.
5. Submission of a New York State Curb Cut Permit.
6. Submission of draft road dedication papers for the 50' wide right-of-way 28' wide
road section of the access.
7. Submission of a Suffolk County Water Authority "Letter of Water Availability".
8. Submission of an up-dated New York State Department of Environmental
Conservation Permit.
9. A draft Bond Estimate was submitted on April 2, 2008. Due to the decisions
made, the Planning Board is requesting that an up-dated Bond Estimate be
submitted. Note that the costs of placing concrete property boundary monuments
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on lot corners and open space easement areas, reduced number of street trees
and street lighting (1 unit per road end) must be included.
10. The proposed disturbance resulting from construction activities and grading of
this site will be greater than one (1) acre in area. Therefore, this project will
require coverage from the New York State Department of Environmental
Conservation (DEC) under the Phase II State Pollutant Discharge Elimination
System (SPDES) Program. The applicant must prepare a formal DEC SWPPP,
submit a Notice of Intent (NOI) and obtain coverage under the SPDES
GENERAL PERMIT FOR STORMWATER DISCHARGES from the DEC.
Coverage under this Construction Activity Permit #GP-0-10-002 is required prior
to the initiation of any work. Please note that the Town of Southold is a
regulated, traditional land use control MS4. Therefore, the applicant must submit
an MS4 SWPPP and SWPPP Acceptance Form to the Town of Southold for
review and approval prior to submission of the NOI to the DEC.
11. In addition to the Phase II Regulations and Town Code Chapter 236, drainage
calculations and drainage designs must also be submitted for existing structures
within the subdivision. This item would include the pre-existing development and
other impervious surfaces found within Lots 2 & 4.
12. Submit a Draft Open Space Conservation Easement for open space areas
located within each lot. A draft will be provided to you by the Planning
Department. The uses permitted within the open space areas include:
a. On Lots 1, 2, 3 and 5.
"Conservation of open land in its natural state"
b. On Lot 4 the following use is permitted:
"Horse corral for the purposes of providing pasture for private, non-
commercial animals"
13. Submission of a $21,000 Park and Playground Fee ($7,000 per created lot)
pursuant to §240-53. Reservation of parkland on subdivision plats containing
residential units.
14. Submission of an Administration Fee pursuant to §240-37(A) of the Southold
Town Code.
15. Submit a draft Covenant and Restriction including the following clauses:
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a. There shall be no further subdivision of Lots 1 through 4 into perpetuity.
b. At the time any development is proposed for Lot 5 of this subdivision, the
full requirement of street trees as described in the landscaping
requirements in Town Code, will be a condition of any development
approval. This covenant was required at the time of subdivision approval
when street trees were deferred from the general subdivision to this lot
due to the existence of sufficient trees on the remainder of the parcel.
c. Curb cuts allowing ingress and egress to State Route 25 shall be reduced
to one (50' wide right of way). The curb-cut over Lot 5 allowing ingress
and egress to S.R. 25 shall be abandoned.
d. Vegetation on the west of the 50' wide right-of-way to be dedicated to the
Town shall not be cleared and remain in its natural state other than that
necessary to construct a 28' wide road and vegetation that is threatening
to life and/or property.
e. The 16' wide future secondary driveway shall not be constructed until
proof of access over SCTM#1000-114-12-4.1 is provided and
acknowledged by the Planning Board.
f. All storm water run-off generated by the placement of fill or any other
proposed development must comply with Town Code Chapter 236 for
storm water management.
g. Prior to construction activity on any of the lots within the subdivision, the
project will require a General Permit for storm water run-off from
construction activity administered by the New York State Department of
Environmental Conservation Under Phase II State Pollutant Discharge
Elimination System.
h. Acknowledge the required clearing limits for each lot and indicate that
these areas shall remain in a natural state.
i. Indicate that the use of synthetic herbicides and fertilizers capable of
entering surface waters or ground water on each lot is prohibited.
j. All utilities serving each lot shall be located underground.
Donald Wilcenski: Second that.
Martin Sidor: Motion made and seconded. Any discussion? All in favor?
Ayes.
Martin Sidor: Motion carries.
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SUBDIVISIONS - FINAL DETERMINATIONS
Conwa¥~ Joseph & Mar.claret - This proposed lot line change will transfer 3.3 acres
from a 34.2-acre parcel to an adjacent 1-acre parcel. SCTM1000-54-7-21.1 will be 30.9
acres. SCTM1000-54-7-21.2 will be 4.3 acres. The Town of Southold will purchase the
30.9 acres for farmland preservation. The property is located on the w/s/o Horton Lane
at the intersection of Horton Lane & Old North Road, Southold.
Donald Wilcenski: Mr. Chairman, I will offer the following resolution:
WHEREAS, this proposed lot line change will transfer 3.3 acres from a 34.2-acre parcel
to an adjacent 1 acre parcel. SCTM#1000-54-7-21.1 will be 30.9 acres. SCTM#1000-
54-7-21.2 will be 4.3 acres. The Town of Southold will purchase the 30.9 acres for
farmland preservation; and
WHEREAS, an application for a Lot Line Modification was submitted on August 24,
2010 by Joseph A. and Margaret Conway for the property located at the west side of
Horton Lane, at the intersection of Horton Lane & Old North Road, Southold,
SCTM#1000-54-7-21.1 & 21.2, in the A-C Zoning District; and
WHEREAS, on November 15, 2010, the Southold Town Planning Board ~cting under
the State Environmental Quality Review Act, performed and made a determination of
non-significance and granted a Negative Declaration; and
WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board, pursuant to Town Code §240-56
Waivers of Certain Provisions, may waive certain elements of the subdivision review if
in its judgment they are not requisite in the interest of the public health, safety and
general welfare. After reviewing the information submitted for this application, the
Planning Board has determined that it is eligible for a waiver of the ERSAP, the Primary
and Secondary Conservation Area Plan, and the Sketch Plan and Preliminary Plat
steps of the subdivision process for the following reasons:
1. No new lots are being created.
2. The lots involved are either already developed or are being preserved as open
space.
3. No changes will occur as a result of this Lot Line Change that would affect the
character of the neighborhood; and
WHEREAS, the Planning Board has determined that the proposed action meets the
necessary requirements of Town Code §240 for a Lot Line Modification; and
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WHEREAS, on May 9, 2011, the Planning Board waived the requirements of §240 to
submit the ERSAP, Primary and Secondary Conservation Plans, Sketch Plan and
Preliminary Plat steps; and
WHEREAS, on May 9, 2011, the Southold Town Planning Board granted Conditional
Final Approval on the maps entitled "Re-Subdivision (Lot Line Change) for Julia
Conway", dated August 1, 2001, last revised April 30, 2011, and prepared by Garrett A.
Strang, Architect, subject to the following condition:
1. Submit draff deeds (prior to filing with Suffolk County) that contain the following:
a. a reference to this Planning Board approval of the Lot Line Modification; and
b. a schedule (or schedules) with legible illustrations of the lot line changes
made and that will be filed as a page (or pages) in the deed; and
WHEREAS, the applicant fulfilled the above conditions placed on Final Approval by the
Southold Town Planning Board; be it therefore
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board grants Final Approval on the
maps entitled "Re-Subdivision (Lot Line Change) for Julia Conway" dated August 1,
2001 last revised April 30, 2011 and prepared by Garrett A. Strang, Architect.
Kenneth Edwards: Second the motion.
Martin Sidor: Motion made and seconded. Any discussion? All in favor?
Ayes.
Martin Sidor: Motion carries.
APPROVAL EXTENSIONS
Colony Pond - This proposal is for a Standard Subdivision of a 13.540-acre parcel into
five lots where Lot 1= 35,567 sq. ff.; Lot 2= 336,916 sq. ft., inclusive of a 41,424 sq. ft.
building envelope and 6.8 acres of preserved open space; Lot 3 =30,471 sq. ft.; Lot 4
=30,029 sq. ft.; and Lot 5 =29,358 sq. ft. in the R-80 Zoning District. The property is
located on Colony Road approximately 470' east of Bayview Avenue in Southold.
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Bill Cremers: Mr. Chairman, I will offer the following resolution:
WHEREAS, this proposal is for a standard subdivision to subdivide a 13.540-acre
parcel into five lots where Lot 1 -- 35,709 sq. ft., Lot 2 = 336,962 sq. ft., inclusive of a
41,470 sq. ft. building envelope and 6.8 acres of preserved Open Space, Lot 3 =
30,252 sq. ft., Lot 4 = 30,012 sq. ft., and Lot 5 = 29,984 sq. ft. in the R-80 Zoning
District; and
WHEREAS, on September 13, 2010, the Southold Town Planning Board re-issued
Conditional Sketch Approval originally granted on February 11, 2008 upon the map
entitled "Road and Drainage Plan of Colony Pond", dated April 4, 2006 and last revised
June 29, 2007, prepared by Jeffrey T. Butler, P.E.; and
WHEREAS, on February 14, 2011, the applicant submitted a request to the Southold
Town Planning Board to extend Conditional Sketch Approval for 90 days due to the
continuing effort to meet all of the requirements outlined in the Conditional Sketch
Approval re-issued on September 13, 2010; and
WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board reviewed the above-referenced request
at their February 28, 2011 Work Session; and
WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board extended Conditional Sketch Approval
for a period of 90 days from the date of this resolution to June 15, 2011; and
WHEREAS, on July 07,2011, the agent submitted a request to the Southold Town
Planning Board to extend Conditional Sketch Approval; and
WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board reviewed the above-referenced request
at their July 11,2011 Work Session; be it therefore
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board hereby extends Conditional
Sketch Approval for a period of six (6) months from the date of this resolution to
January 11, 2012.
Kenneth Edwards: Second the motion.
Martin Sidor: Motion made and seconded. Any discussion? All in favor?
Ayes.
Martin Sidor: Motion carries.
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SITE PLAN DETERMINATIONS
Barb's Ve_cl_clies - This site plan is for a proposed 740 sq. ft. hoop-house adjacent to a
384 sq. ft. pre-existing non-conforming farm stand on 28.370 acres. The hoop-house is
to be used for storing plants, flower baskets and vegetables during the night, and not
used by the public. The property is located at 4195 NYS Route 25 in Peconic.
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Kenneth Edwards: Mr. Chairman, I will offer the following resolution:
WHEREAS, this Site Plan is for a proposed 740 sq. ft. hoop house adjacent to a 384
sq. ft. pre-existing non-conforming farm stand on 28.370 acres. The hoop house is to
be used for storing plants, flower baskets and vegetables during the night, and not used
by the public. Also on-site is a proposed storage building for Pindar Vineyards, located
600' north of NYS Rt. 25. This storage building is being approved in a separate
resolution by the Planning Board; and
WHEREAS, the applicant submitted an application for Site Plan review on May 5, 2011;
and
WHEREAS, at a Work Session held on May 17, 2010, the Planning Board accepted the
application for review; and
WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board, pursuant to State Environmental
Quality Review (SEQR) 6 NYCRR, Part 617.5 (c) (3) has determined that the proposed
action is a Type II Action as it falls within the following description for 6 NYCRR, Part
617.5 (c) (3)"agricultural farm management practices, including construction...of farm
buildings and structures..." and not subject to review under SEQRA; and
WHEREAS, on May 20, 2010, the Southold Town Architectural Review Committee
reviewed and determined that the proposed hoop house was acceptable; and
WHEREAS, on May 24, 2010, the Planning Board, pursuant to Southold Town Code
§280-131 C., distributed the application to the required agencies for their comments;
and
WHEREAS, on June 10, 2010, the Southold Fire District determined there was
adequate fire protection and emergency access for the site; and
WHEREAS, on June 14, 2010, a public hearing was held; and
WHEREAS, on July 19, 2010, the NYSDOT responded that no Highway Work Permit is
necessary for this application; and
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WHEREAS, on August 2, 2010, the Planning Department sent a letter to the applicant
requesting that the following information be added to the Site Plan:
1. The distance of set-backs for the hoop house from the property lines; and
2. Drainage; and
3. An affidavit stating that the hoop house would not be open to the public; and
WHEREAS, on June 23, 2011, the Town of Southold LWRP Coordinator reviewed the
above- referenced project (as part of the Pindar Agricultural Storage Building Site Plan
on the same parcel), and has recommended the proposed project be found consistent
with Southold Town LWRP policies with the condition that an archaeologist be present
on-site during excavation of the drainage and foundation. The area is identified as an
"archeo-sensitive area" by the New York State Historic Preservation Office; and
WHEREAS, on June 28, 2011, the applicant submitted a notarized affidavit stating that
the hoop house (aka greenhouse) will not be open to the public at any time and is used
for growing vegetables and flowers; and
WHEREAS, on July 5, 2011, the Southold Town Engineer reviewed the above-
referenced application (as part of the Pindar Agricultural Storage Building Site Plan on
the same parcel) and has determined the project to provide adequate drainage and the
proposed drainage meets the minimum requirements of Chapter 236 for Storm Water
Management; and
WHEREAS, on July 11,2011, the Southold Town Chief Building Inspector reviewed
and certified the proposed Site Plan as a permitted use in the A-C Zoning District; and
WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board, pursuant to §280-133 C of the
Southold Town Code, has the discretion to waive any or all of the requirements in §280-
133 for those applications involving uses strictly related to agriculture as long as they
are not necessary to further the objectives set forth in Town Code §280-129 to maintain
public health, safety, and welfare. The Planning Board has found that this application is
eligible for a waiver of certain elements of the Site Plan requirements because it is an
agricultural use and a hoop house for storage accessory to a pre-existing non-
conforming farm stand; and
WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board, pursuant to Southold Town Code
§280-131 B (5), has the discretion to vary or waive the parking requirements for Site
Plan Applications where doing so would not have a detrimental effect on the public
health, safety or general welfare, and will not have the effect of nullifying the intent and
provision of the Site Plan Requirements chapter of the Town Code. The Planning Board
has found that this application is eligible for a waiver of parking requirements because
there is no need to provide for parking - the application is for an agricultural use and is
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for growing plants and not open to the public. Further, parking for employees is already
provided for at the pre-existing farm stand; and
WHEREAS, at their Work Session on July 11,2011, the Planning Board found that all
applicable requirements of the Site Plan Regulations Article XXlV, §280 - Site Plan
Approval of the Town of Southold have been met; be it therefore
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board hereby waives certain elements of
the Site Plan requirements as noted above;
Donald Wilcenski: Second.
Martin Sidor: Motion made and seconded. Any discussion? All in favor?
Ayes.
Martin Sidor: Motion carries.
Kenneth Edwards: and be it further RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning
Board hereby waives the parking requirements as noted above;
Donald Wilcenski: Second.
Martin Sidor: Motion made and seconded. Any discussion? All in favor?
Ayes.
Martin Sidor: Motion carries.
Kenneth Edwards: and be it further RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning
Board has determined that this proposed action is consistent with the policies of the
Town of Southold Local Water[ront Revitalization Program with the condition that an
archaeologist be on site during excavation of the drainage trenches;
Bill Cremers: Second.
Martin Sidor: Motion made and seconded. Any discussion? All in favor?
Ayes.
Martin Sidor: Motion carries.
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Kenneth Edwards: and be it further RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning
Board grants Approval to the Site Plan entitled "Barb's Veggies", dated July 11,2011,
and authorizes the Chairman to endorse the site plan.
Bill Cremers: Second.
Martin Sidor: Motion made and seconded. Any discussion? All in favor?
Ayes.
Martin Sidor: Motion carries.
APPROVAL OF PLANNING BOARD MINUTES
Board to approve the minutes of: June 13, 201'1.
Bill Cremers: So moved.
Kenneth Edwards: Second.
Martin Sidor: Motion made and seconded. Any discussion? All in favor?
Ayes.
Martin Sidor: Motion carries. Does anyone on the Planning Board or staff wish to put
anything on the record? Hearing none, do I have a motion to adjourn?
Donald Wilcenski: So moved.
Kenneth Edwards: Second.
Martin Sidor: Motion made and seconded. Any discussion? All in favor?
Ayes.
Martin Sidor: Motion carries. This meeting has ended.
There being no further business to come before the meeting, it was ADJOURNED at
6:53 p.m.
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Martin H. Sidor, Chair
Respectfully submitted,
Linda Randolph, Tra"l~scribing Secretary
RECEIVED
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Southold Town Clerk