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HomeMy WebLinkAboutTB-06/05/2001Work Session SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD JUNE 5, 2001 Present: Supervisor Jean W. Cochran, Justice Louisa P. Evans, Councilman William D. Moore, Councilman Brian G. Murphy, Councilman John M. Romanelli, Councilman Craig A. Richter, Town Clerk Elizabeth A. Neville, Town Attorney Gregory F. Yakaboski. 9:00 a.m. Appointment - Planning Board Member Richie Latham and Planner Valerie Scopaz. On motion by Councilman John M. Romanelli, seconded by Councilman Craig A. Richter, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby enters into executive session at 9:06 a.m. for the purpose of discussing a particular person, the resignation of Craig Turner, Planner. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Romanelli, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. Resolution no. 440 was placed on the agenda as a result of this executive session. On motion by Councilman John Romanelli, seconded by Councilman William D. Moore, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby exits from this executive session at 9:42 a.m. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Romanelli, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. 9:42 Appointment - Town Comptroller John Cushman and Assistant Town Attorney Mary Wilson appeared before the Town Board with regard to the Fishers Island Ferry District Improvements to the New London Ferry Terminal. Mr. Cushman advised that a public hearing must be held before August. The budget, plans and specifications, and SEQRA issues must all be resolved. Mr. Cushman reported that they met with the Fishers Island Ferry District on Friday. They will be bulkheading and creating a new area underwater that is going to be filled in at the New London Ferry Terminal and constructing a new two story office building. They have all of their permits from the state of Connecticut. The cost is going to be $8,000,000. +, about half of which will come from grants, the remainder of $4,800,000 will be bonded. There is a September deadline for grants. The date of July 9th' at 1:00 p.m. for a public hearing on Fishers Island was tentatively set-up. There will be 13 persons from the mainland traveling to Fishers Island on that day. The Ferry District Commissioners and their engineer will also be present at the hearing. Mr. Cushman will get information for the advertisement of the public notice of hearing. 10:00 a.m. Appointment - Ron Chromey, DemandStar Onvia.com,Inc. appeared before the Town Board to talk about his company's on line bidding service. Connecting government and business on line is what they do. They have the bid wire and quote wire to cover everything above and below the $20,000. mark. We will continue to advertise and post bids in the regular way. In addition, this bid wire service will give the Town a much broader base of contractors to draw bids from and hopefully more competitive bid prices. The town would be increasing their competition and getting a better value. The bidders that are notified can be tracked and whether or not they responded. Mr. Chromey advised that their complete bid library would be available to the town. So the town can look up sample bidding packages and notices. Mr. Chromey said that there is absolute security, their web base does not invade firewalls and it is password operated. Councilman Romanelli asked what training will be 6/5/01 2 necessary for town personnel. Mr. Chromey said that they will provide on site training here uploaded from their electronic file. The Town gives them the public notice and specifications and they take take care of sending it to their vendor data base on our letterhead. This is all at no cost to the Town, the vendors and contractors pay a fee to DemandStar to be a part of their vendor data base and there is a 30 day cancellation clause in the contract. Resolution no. 439 was placed on the agenda to authorize the Supervisor to execute a contract with them. 10:20 a.m. - The Town Board recessed for a short break 10:37 a.m. the Town Board reviewed IV. For Discussion items as follows: IV. 1. Suffolk County parcels inventory - Superintendent of Highways Raymond Jacobs sent a letter of recommendation for accepting most of these parcels. The Town Board agreed to accept the parcels as recommended. There will be a resolution on the next town board agenda to accept them. IV. 2. Change of Zone application of Amerada Hess. The Town Board directed the Town Attorney to check the SEQRA requirements to make sure that is it complete and proceed with the next step to move it forward. IV. 3. Long Island Wine Council proposed self-management guidelines. The Town Board directed the Town Attorney to analyze when a permit will be needed. Councilman Moore advised that a noise ordinance was discussed at the Police Committee meeting last week. He finds that the police officers do get a voluntary response when they arrive on the scene 90% of the time. However, it would be nice if the officers had a little something to back them up. The Town Attorney was instructed to check with the other towns for text of ordinances and how they are handling the problem. IV. 4. Town Code Book on Internet. The Town Board approved of putting the town code book on the web. They also directed town contracts and other public documents be put on. IV. 5. Resignation of Craig Turner, Town Planner. Previously discussed in executive session. Advertising will be taken care of by Valerie Scopaz by posting it on the internet. IV. 6. Truss Construction. It is recommended that placards be placed on the outside of the buildings to warn fireman and other emergency services. A certain type of roof construction called truss construction often collapses earlier than anticipated. The placard would serve as a warning so that appropriate action can be taken to help to prevent injuries and loss of lives. The Town Board directed that this be sent to the Code Committee. Chief Cochran said that it should be everybody including residential and commercial buildings. He suggested a placard by the front door with the information. On motion by Justice Louisa Evans, seconded by Councilman William Moore, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby enters into executive session at 11:10 a.m. for the purpose of discussing personnel - particular persons. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Romanelli, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. On motion by Councilman Brian Murphy, seconded by Justice Louisa Evans, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby exits from executive session at 11:59 a.m. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Romanelli, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. 12:00 p.m. The Town Board discussed IV. 7. Five acre Zoning. Supervisor Cochran posed the question, "Where are we going when we see the south fork realtors coming over here and buying up businesses because they see money to be made?" She stated her opinion that she thinks it is the right way to go and that they should do it. She asked the other town board members for their feelings on this. There are 8,000 acres that need to be protected that the town wants to save at a cost of $150,000,000. It could be paid back with the 2% fund, but there is no guarantee on this. The town must continue with the Farmland Preservation efforts. Councilman Romanelli stated that they should continue forging ahead on it and put a couple of other things into it. A clustered grandfather clause on purchased development rights, the right of first refusal on land that is to be sold that they contact the town first and give us the opportunity to determine what we want to do. Councilman Moore suggested that they look at the special exceptions uses in the AC district. Councilman Richter said all you need to do is look up west, it is coming this way. We don't have the money to purchase all 8,000 acres, so we will have to do something creative to accomplish it. If everything gets developed, the roads, schools, and infrastructure will be a great financial burden too. Supervisor Cochran said that she went to Southampton over the week-end and she doesn't want that to happen here in Southold. Once, you begin to see the growth and what is happening here in Southold, you know it is close. It is time to put the legislation together and get it rolling. Any development rights sales in process under contract at this point will be grandfathered. The Town Board directed the Town Attorney to put it together for the 6/5/01 3 next meeting. They told him to keep it as clear as possible, right to the point, so that everybody understands it. We have been at the crossroads for over ten years, we have now passed it and it is time to act. The town board decreed that this is a unanimous action. Supervisor Cochran asked if anyone has anything that they would like to incorporate into it? Councilman Murphy replied that he would like to see incentive zoning to perhaps preserve some of the farmers borrowing power. There could be a condition that if it is not subdivided in it's entirety, two acre zoning would apply. If it is to be subdivided, then five acre zoning. The Town Board recessed for lunch at 12:20 p.m. On motion by Justice Louisa Evans, seconded by Councilman John Romanelli, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby enters into executive session at 1:25 p.m. for the purpose of discussing contracts, litigation strategy, property acquisition, and personnel - a particular person. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Romanelli, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. On motion by Councilman Richter, seconded by Councilman Murphy, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby exits from this executive session at 3:47 p.m. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Romanelli, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. This executive session and work session ended at 3:47 p.m. REGULAR MEETING JUNE 5, 2001 7:00 P.M. A Regular Meeting of the Southold Town Board was held on January 30, 2001, at the Southold Town Hall, Southold, New York. Supervisor Cochran opened the meeting at 4:30 P.M. with the Pledge of Allegiance led by Town Clerk Neville. Present: Supervisor Jean W. Cochran Justice Louisa P. Evans Councilman William D. Moore Councilman John M. Romanelli Councilman Brian G. Murphy Councilman Craig A. Richter Town Clerk Elizabeth A. Neville Town Attorney Gregory F. Yakaboski SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: May ! have a motion to approve the minutes of May 8th, 2001. Moved by Councilman Richter, seconded by Councilman Murphy, it was RESOLVED that Town Board minutes of the May 8, 2001, Southold Town Board meeting. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: May ! have a motion to approve the minutes of the May 22nd, 2001 meeting. Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Councilman Richter, it was RESOLVED that Town Board minutes of the May 22, 2001, Southold Town Board meeting. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran. 6/5/01 4 This resolution was duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: A motion to approve the audit of bills of June 5, 20017 Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Richter, it was RESOLVED that the following bills be and hereby are ordered paid: General Fund Whole Town bills in the amount of $54,568.96; General Fund Part Town bills in the amount of $1,908.41; Highway Fund Whole Town bills in the amount of $4,730.65; Highway Fund Part Town bills in the amount of $5,086.66; Capital Projects Account bills in the amount of $17,742.50; Landfill Cap & Closure bills in the amount of $6,944.79; Computer System Upgrade bills in the amount of $6,944.79; Compost Land Acquisition bills in the amount of $7,672.50; Fishers Island Ferry District bills in the amount of $23,930.67; Refuse and Garbage District bills in the amount of $5,440.38; Southold Wastewater District bills in the amount of $3.60; Southold Agency & Trust bills in the amount of $11,008.64; Fishers Island Ferry District Agency & Trust bills in the amount of $103.79. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: To set the next regular Town Board meeting for Tuesday, June 9, 2001 at 4:30 P.M. Moved by Councilman Richter, seconded by Councilman Murphy, it was RESOLVED that the next regular meeting of the Southold Town Board will be held at 4:30 P.M., Tuesday, June 19, 2001 at the Southold Town Hall, Southold, New York. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: I have a very special honor this evening. From time to time we recognize people, especially little people for their talents, and the job they do, or the achievement that they have reached. You may have noticed the posters out in the hall coincide with this. You see many posters out in the hall in relation to Arbor Day, and there was a contest within the school, and the winners are with us, and we have one, two, three, four runner-ups, and then we have a first place winner, so first I would like to have the runner-up come up. I have one for Brook Abigail Pollack, and then I have one for Amanda Vilbert, Rachael Neese, and then another one for Caitlin Murphy. We will present these first. You will have to turn around and watch TV so all your friends can see with these awards. This is a certificate of congratulations for your part in the Arbor Day Poster Contest. On behalf of the residents of Southold Town we extend our sincere congratulations to the runner-ups from the Southold Town Tree Committee Arbor Day poster. These gentlemen are the Chairman of our Southold Tree Committee, and as you see in the front of the hall there the carving, which is a very, very beautiful thing, is our part of our Tree Memorial Program where people may give a memorial to the committee, and their names places on the rack of the tree, and in addition they get a tree planted somewhere in the community with a plaque. It is really a great program, and we love it. This is part of their job too. Part of what their charge is, they do make young people aware of the importance of trees within the community. So, either one of you gentleman want to say something? Mike? MICHAEL DOMINO: I want to thank the Board for supporting us. We want to thank the principals and the teachers and principles who helped. We have savings bonds in addition to this. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Let's coordinate this a little bit. We are saving first place for last. First we are going to give this certificate to Rachel Neese, and it is from the entire Town Board and the 20,000 people in Southold Town. They say, thank you very much for being so talented. We have one for Amanda Vibert. Brooke, this is yours. Caitlin Murphy. Congratulations. We would like to call up Ryan McIntyre. Ryan is the first place winner. I hope he is with us. Ryan, wherever you are we have a lovely certificate for you, and also a savings bond for $75.00, which you can pick up at the Supervisor' s Office. I.REPORTS. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: As you know the Town Board receives reports from the different departments and the different committees each month as they function. They are available. It is public information. They are filed by the Town Clerk, and they are public information, so they are available if there is a committee or a department head that you would be interested in. 1. Southold Town Recreation Department Monthly Report for May 2001. 6/5/01 5 2. Southold Town Scavenger Waste Treatment Facility Monthly Report for May 2001. 3. Southold Town Clerk's Monthly Report for May 2001. II. PUBLIC NOTICES. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Also, there are several Public Notices, US Corp of Army Engineers in relation to constructing a platform attached an existing bulkhead. It is in Southold Bay. The comments they are excepting until June 6th. The US Corp of Engineers, a Mr. Weeden to replace a 60 foot bulkhead, a new stone revetment in Great Peconic Bay, Cutchogue. Comments by June 10, 2001. Also the New York State Department of Environment Conservation Notice of Complete Application for Mottley and Rushin to subdivide on Indian Neck Lane. Comments by June 29, 2001. A New York State Department of Environmental Conservation Notice of Complete Application of James Weeden, a bulkhead Bridge Lane, Cutchogue, Town of Southold. Written comments by June 29, 2001. 1. U.S. Army Corp of Engineers, NY District, request of Robert Stickle for authorization to construct a platform attached to an existing bulkhead in Southold Bay, Southold Sound, Town of Southold. Comments by June 6, 2001. 2. U.S. Army Corp of Engineers, NY District, request of James Weeden for authorization to replace 60' of bulkhead with C-loc vinyl, construct a ramp, and construct 160' of a new stone revetment in a lagoon off Great Peconic Bay, Cutchogue, Town of Southold. Comments by June 10, 2001. 3. New York State Department of Environmental Conservation Notice of Complete Application of Pam Mottley and Patricia Rushin to subdivide a 3.4 acre parcel into a 1.5 acre parcel and a 1.9 acre parcel on Indian Neck Lane, Town of Southold. Written comments by June 29, 2001. 4. New York State Department of Environmental conservation Notice of Complete Application of James Weeden to remove and replace 60' of bulkhead at 1175 Bridge Lane, Cutchogue, Town of Southold. Written comments by June 29, 2001. III. COMMUNICATIONS. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: We received correspondence from constituents, and those were from Ann Stevenson Colley who was in support of the Code for trees, grading and landclearing. Also letter from Hugh Switzer in relation to Goldsmith Inlet dredging. 1. Ann Stevenson Colley to Supervisor Cochran in support of code for trees, grading and land clearing. 2. Hugh Switzer to Supervisor Cochran in regard to the Goldsmith Inlet dredging. IV. PUBLIC HEARINGS. 1. Close 7:30 P.M., May 8, 2001 public hearing on the proposed "Local Law to Amend the Code of the Town of Southold, Chapter 56 thereof entitled Landmark Preservation, by deleting and repealing {}56". 2. Close 7:32 P.M., May 8, 2001 public hearing on the proposed "Local Law to Establish a Historic Preservation Law in the Town of Southold". 3. Close 7:34 P.M., May 8, 2001 public hearing on the proposed "Local Law in Relation to Chapter 85 (Taxation), Article V, Tax Exemption for Alterations and Rehabilitation of Historical Property in the Town of Southold". V. RESOLUTIONS. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: As you know the Town Board has a policy that before we pass any of the resolutions, that we have worked on today, or has been presented to us that we ask for your input. If there is any resolutions you would like to address us on we would be very happy to take them at this time. At the end of the meeting we also have a time designated where you may discuss any Town business with the Town Board. So, a this point is there anyone that has a question in relation to any of the printed resolutions? (No response.) If not, we will begin the action. #418 Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Richter, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs Supervisor Cochran to execute the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) contract with the County of Suffolk for the period of April 1,2001 through March 31, 2002 all in accordance with the Town Attorney. 6/5/01 6 Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli, #419 Moved by Councilman Murphy, seconded by Justice Evans, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs Supervisor Cochran to execute a software support renewal agreement for one year with ACS all in accordance with the Town Attorney. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. #42O Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Councilman Richter, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints Dr. Robert B. Cohen to the Building Committee for the new animal shelter. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. #421 Moved by Councilman Richter, seconded by Justice Evans, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs Supervisor Jean W. Cochran to execute the 2001 Community Development Block Grant Agreement{s) between the Town of Southold and the County of Suffolk, subject to the approval of the Town Attorney. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. #422 Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Councilman Murphy, it was RESOLVED that pursuant to the provisions of Chapter 59, Open Space Preservation and/or Chapter 6 (2% Community Preservation Fund) of the Code of the Town of Southold, the Town Board of the Town of Southold will hold a public hearing at 5:00 P.M. on the 19th of June, 2001, on the question of the fee title acquisition by the Town of Southold of the property of Andrew Aurichio, comprising approximately 1.3 acres, located on the North side of Main Road, Southold, New York, identified as SCTM# 1000-56-4-16, at the price of $60,000 (sixty thousand dollars), and be it further RESOLVED that a more detailed description of the above mentioned parcel of land is on file in the Southold Town Clerk's Office, Southold Town Hall 53095 Main Road, Southold, New York, and may be examined by any interested person during business hours. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. #423 Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Romanelli, it was RESOLVED that the Town board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes James Bunchuck~ Solid Waste Coordinator~ to attend a conference on Automated Recycling and Transfer Station Design sponsored by the Solid Waste Association of North America (SWANA) in Lake Harmony~ PA on June 20 and 21~ 2001. All necessary expenses for travel, food, and lodging to be a legal charge against the 2001 Solid Waste District Budget. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. #424 Moved by Councilman Richter, seconded by Justice Evans, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold authorize Southold Town Beach Attendants and Beach Managers to be supplied with a petty cash fund in the amount of $40.00 .(30 singles, 1 roll quarters) per person, to enable them to make change. Check in the amount of $320.00 to be made payable to Kenneth Reeves; said charge to be made to A210, Petty Cash. 6/5/01 7 Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. #425 Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Romanelli, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold authorize the issuance of free beach parking permits to the following employees: Water Safety Instructors, Beach Attendants, Lifeguards, Beach Managers, and Recreation Supervisor Ken Reeves. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. #426 Moved by Councilman Richter, seconded by Councilman Romanelli, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold authorizes a reimbursement fee of $.30 per mile to Southold Town Beach Managers and Lifeguards acting as rotating lifeguards (Lifeguards who drive from beach to beach giving other lifeguards a 15-25 minute break). Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. #427 Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Justice Evans, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants permission to the New Suffolk Civic Association, Inc. to use the following town roads for their "Seventh Annual Independence Day Parade" to be held on Wednesday, July 4, 2001 beginning at 11:00 a.m. at the intersection of Old Harbor and New Suffolk Roads continuing on to Fifth Street, and Main Street ending at the Town Beach, provided they file with the Town Clerk a One Million Dollar Certificate of Insurance naming the Town of Southold as an additional insured. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. #428 Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Murphy, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the closure of Case's Lane, Cutchogue from 7:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m., Saturday, July 7, 2001, in the interest of public safety during the Cutchogue-New Suffolk Historical Council's Annual Antique Show and Sale on the Village Green, provided they file with the Town Clerk a One Million Dollar Certificate of Liability Insurance naming the Town of Southold as an additional insured. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: We are holding resolution #429 which is pertaining to the expansion of the Fishers Island Ferry Terminal. #430 Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Councilman Richter, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs Supervisor Jean W. Cochran to execute an agreement between the Town of Southold and General Code Publishers Corp. for the installation of the Laserfiche program, all in accordance with the approval of the Town Attorney. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. #431 Moved by Councilman Richter, seconded by Councilman Romanelli, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby rescinds resolution numbers 334, adopted at the Apri126th board meeting, and 414, adopted at the May 22"d board meeting. The afore mentioned resolutions to be replaced with the follow: 6/5/01 8 RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby establishes a line in the Trust and Agency Fund for the purpose of recording donated monies to benefit the Southold Town Animal Shelter. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. #432 Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Justice Evans, it was WHEREAS there has been presented to the Town Board of the Town of Southold, Suffolk County, New York on the 5th day of June, 2001, a Local Law entitled "A Local Law in Relation to adding a Stop sign on Greenwood Road heading in a southerly direction at the intersection of Whistler Avenue on Fishers Island", now, therefore, be it RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold will hold a public hearing on the aforesaid Local Law at the Southold Town Hall, 53095 Main Road, Southold, New York on the __ day of June, 2001 at 5:00 p.m., at which time all interested persons will be given an opportunity to be heard. This proposed "Local Law in Relation to adding a stop sign at Greenwood Road, Fishers Island, New York", which reads as follows: I. Chapter 92, Section 92-30 (Vehicles & Traffic) of the Code of the Town of Southold is hereby amended as follows: Stop Sign on Direction At Inter- Hamlet Of Travel section with Greenwood Road South Whistler Avenue Fishers Island II. III. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. Severability. If any section or subsection, paragraph, clause, phrase or provision of this law shall be judged invalid or held unconstitutional by any court of competent jurisdiction, any judgment made thereby shall not affect the validity of this law as a whole or any part thereof other than the part or provision so adjudged to be invalid or unconstitutional. This Local Law shall take effect immediately upon filing with the Secretary of State. Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli, #433 Moved by Councilman Richter, seconded by Councilman Romanelli, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby hires Orion Wenczel as a part- time Scale Operator in the Solid Waste District at the rate of $10.67 per hour, effective June 7, 2001. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. #434 Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Romanelli, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants permission to Town Clerk Elizabeth Neville to attend the Annual New York Association of Local Government Records Officers {NYALGRO} Conference being held at Thousand Islands, New York on June 10 - 13, 2001 at no cost to the town for registration, accommodations, or meals ( to be paid by NYALGRO). Expenses for travel reimbursement shall be a legal charge to Town Clerk 2001 A. 1410.4.600.300. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. #435 Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Justice Evans, it was WHEREAS there has been presented to the Town Board of the Town of Southold, Suffolk County, New York on the 5th day of June, 2001, a Local Law entitled "A Local Law in Relation to Adding a Stop sign on Winthrop Drive heading in a westerly direction at the intersection of Trumball Drive on Fishers Island", now, therefore, be it RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold will hold a public hearing on the aforesaid Local Law at the Southold Town Hall, 53095 Main Road, Southold, New York on the 19th day of June, 2001 at 5:04 p.m., at which time all interested persons will be given an opportunity to be heard. 6/5/01 9 This proposed "Local Law in Relation to adding a stop sign on Winthrop Drive heading in a westerly direction at the intersection of Trumball Drive on Fishers Island, New York", which reads as follows: I. Chapter 92, Section 92-30 (Vehicles & Traffic) of the Code of the Town of Southold is hereby amended as follows: Stop Sign on Direction At Inter- Hamlet Of Travel section with Winthrop Drive West Trumball Drive Fishers Island II. Severability. If an section or subsection, paragraph, clause, phrase or provision of this law shall be judge invalid or held unconstitutional by any court of competent jurisdiction, any judgment made thereby shall not affect the validity of this law as a whole or any part thereof other than the part or provision so adjudged to be invalid or unconstitutional. This Local Law shall take effect immediately upon filing with the Secretary of State. Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli, III. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. #436 Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Richter, it was WHEREAS there has been presented to the Town Board of the Town of Southold, Suffolk County, New York on the 5th day of June, 2001, a Local Law entitled "A Local Law in Relation to Adding a Stop sign on Trumball Drive heading in a northerly direction at the intersection of Tyler Lane on Fishers Island", now, therefore, be it RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold will hold a public hearing on the aforesaid Local Law at the Southold Town Hall, 53095 Main Road, Southold, New York on the 19th day of June, 2001 at 5:06 p.m., at which time all interested persons will be given an opportunity to be heard. This proposed "Local Law in Relation to adding a stop sign on Trumball Drive heading in a northerly direction at the intersection of Tyler Lane on Fishers Island, New York", which reads as follows: III. Chapter 92, Section 92-30 (Vehicles & Traffic) of the Code of the Town of Southold is hereby amended as follows: Stop Sign on Direction At Inter- Hamlet Of Travel section with III. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. Trumball Drive North Tyler Lane Fishers Island IV. Severability. If an section or subsection, paragraph, clause, phrase or provision of this law shall be judge invalid or held unconstitutional by any court of competent jurisdiction, any judgment made thereby shall not affect the validity of this law as a whole or any part thereof other than the part or provision so adjudged to be invalid or unconstitutional. This Local Law shall take effect immediately upon filing with the Secretary of State. Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli, #437 Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Justice Evans, it was WHEREAS the Town Board of the Town of Southold is considering a proposal to rebuild and reconstruct the Brushes Creek Bridge on the same site; be it therefore RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold declares this to be a Type II Action under the SEQRA Rules and Regulations, 6 NYCRR 617.5.(c)(2) be it further RESOLVED that no further review is required for SEQRA purposes. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. #438 Moved by Councilman Richter, seconded by Justice Evans, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs Supervisor Cochran to execute all permit applications and related documents necessary for the Brushes Creek Bridge reconstruction project all in accordance with the Town Attorney. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran. 6/5/01 10 This resolution was duly ADOPTED. #439 Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Romanelli, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs Supervisor Cochran to execute an agency membership agreement with DemandStar by Onvia for internet procurement services all in accordance with the Town Attorney. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. #44O Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Councilman Richter, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts~ with regret~ the resignation of Craig Turner~ Planner~ effective June 12, 2001, and extends their best wishes to him in his future endeavors. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: That is the end of our planned resolutions. At this time I would like to close several hearings. We left them open for almost a month, so the first one I will close is the public hearing on "A Local Law to Amend the Code of the Town of Southold, Chapter 56 thereof entitled Landmark Preservation, be deleting and repealing {}56". So this public hearing is now closed. The second public hearing I am closing is May 8th, 2001 public hearing on "A Local Law to Establish a Historic Preservation Law in the Town of Southold". That hearing is now closed. I had said I would leave it open for two weeks, and it has been open for a month, so no action is being taken, but I am closing the hearings. The third one on May 8th, 2001, "A Local Law in Relation to Chapter 85 (Taxation), Article V, Tax Exemption for Alterations and Rehabilitation of Historical Property in the Town of Southold". These hearings are now closed. I did receive additional comments in the mail, and then have been entered into the public hearing file. There are no public hearings for this evening. At this time we would be very happy to take comments from the audience in relation to any Town business. DORIS MCGREEVY: Hi. My name is Doris McGreevy, and I would like to give you all this package. Now, before we begin, so we are all together on this I represent the Southold Sound-Mattituck Inlet Preservation League, and we have had a meeting May 19th at the Mattituck-Laurel Library, and we had invited you, but we didn't get any response, so we felt that this is important enough that we visit you, and on common ground we can discuss some of the issues that we feel are very, very important. Now, Bailey Beach is located at the Inlet, and that is going to breach, and when it does, and it is just a matter of when, the Inlet will be closed, Mattituck Inlet will close down. Now, we have had many people who have a lot of expertise in this subject come and look it over, and review it, and see that there is definitely work to be done there very immediately. But, until this point we haven't really done other than the Army Corp coming, we haven't really done anything in the short term. Now, not only will it be un-navigable, but there will be economic problems for the people who work there, who have fishing businesses, marinas, inlet party boats, and so forth. We also have a problem with the people who use it as a recreational facility. A lot of boaters come from over in Connecticut, and I am sure you have been in the creek and the inlet, and enjoyed it, and these people, too, won't have the access to the inlet or the creek for those very reasons. Also, Mattituck Inlet and the creek is a safe haven. Meaning that if boats get stuck out on the water in the Long Island Sound, and there is some problem they can come in, and then they can have access to any medical health they need, or repair their boat. So, it is also used as a safe haven, and we have Port Jeff forty miles away, and we also have Greenport, but those are great distances, and when boaters need help and are in danger Mattituck is there for them. The other problem is the wetlands. We have twenty-eight acres of wetlands that abuts the Bailey Beach area. These wetlands will be altered. We don't know exactly how, and I am not going to venture any guesses, but they will be changed, and they will be changed in a way that will make a difference in the community. The habitat of the bird area will change. Right at this present time Plovers don't nest on Bailey Beach anymore. One of the letters you have in there from Ms. Prentice, I think her name is Beverly Prentice, she is from the Audubon, who has monitored the situation very closely over the last few years, have noticed a decrease in the number of Plovers on the beach because they need a sandy wide beach, or cobblely beach to nest on, and they don't have it anymore. I think in 1999 they had one that survived, and they had hatched, fledged the birds, but the rest in 2000, and 2001, there aren't any. So, there is also a population that we are losing because of the erosion. Also, the beach itself will be changed drastically because a breach from Long Island Sound will actually push it's way through, and we have a few items. I would like to walk you through them, and I gave everyone the same thing, so we are all 6/5/01 11 on the same page. The first page is a letter is a letter from Fred Anders, and he reviewed a Town meeting that we had addressing this in 1998 saying that we needed a short term, and a long term study, a short term solution, and a long term solution, and this was November 16, 1998. Then they had some concerns about dredging, and we have alternatives on what to do on the short term. Okay? And he is from the Department of State. Some of the things were to have dredging the inlet, and also while the dredge is there to take the sand on the westerly side and put it on the east, or to truck it around, or find donor sites outside the inlet. The next page we have two letters. One is written by Jean Cochran, the Supervisor, asking that the State, and asking Mr. Daly, who represents the State's DEC for Coastal Matters, please, go ahead, and find some sort of...to begin a project for the Section 111, which the Army Corp would then take over, and she also says here, Jean also says, that the Town of Southold is willing to cost share a solution to this ongoing erosion problem. Thank you for your help. You can read the rest on your own. The next letter is from Daly. He is the Coastal Erosion Management Chief for New York State, in this letter he asks that the Army Corp proceed with a Section 111 immediately, and it is written May 3, 1999, and at that time he says it is an emergency. Now it is 2001. In August of 1999 the Town had a letter, Jean Cochran, Supervisor sent me a letter, and my husband, who represented at that time a homeowners' group to come to a meeting at the Town Hall to discuss this very issue, and on the next page is the agenda. There are four items on the agenda. One, the status of the Section 111 Study, and as I say this is August 30, 1999. The second thing was monitoring for inlet dredging, which was to be discussed. The third thing is a course of action as to a short term solution of the erosion problem while waiting for the Army Corp of Engineers to determine a long term course of action. This was two years ago, and the fourth, which is becoming just a disaster before our eyes if you go take a walk on Bailey Beach, is a possible breaching by saltwater overland on the east side of the inlet into the freshwater wetlands, which I just explained will be altered. Then on the next page at least twenty people who attended from the State, the DEC, the Army Corp of Engineers, politicians on different levels in the Legislature. The next page is your signatures. Okay? No short term solution yet, folks. This has been over two years. The next one we have is a picture of the Mattituck Inlet jetty, and it is showing severe erosion, and the recent pictures were taken this year on the next page, it shows the Sound area just east of the east jetty. That is the water as it is cupping out, and digging out Bailey Beach before our eyes. Now, not only is it breaching from the easterly side, which is the Sound side. It is also now eroding on the inlet side. So, if you see from the bottom picture it is now eroding from two sides coming in towards the middle by the jetty. So, we have problem there that it is eroding right before our eyes. Everyday if you go for a walk you will see it is getting worse, and worse, and worse, and the next breach if that breach is going to happen by the jetty, which is a likely possibility, where we have the middle of Bailey Beach, and that is the next page. Okay? There is a picture recently the way it is scouring out right across the beach, and the next storm you will see that the flotsam comes up, the logs come up. They are way high on the beach, and one good storm, and it is through, because there isn't much between that area there, and the inner part of the inlet into the creek. These are recent pictures. I would also like to show you some of the letters, and I gave everyone a copy. One from North Fork Environmental Council supporting the need for a solution to this problem immediately. This is a letter to Mr. Joseph Vitry of the Army Corp, and in this letter she asks for an expeditious conclusion to this because it is very important to this society as well. The next letter is from Beverly Prentice, and here is where she explains that she has done her monitoring over the years, the last few years, and Plovers aren't there, and she said erosion is a very real factor in the nesting success of Piping Plovers. In the past five years North Fork Audubon Society has been involved in the monitoring and the management of Southold Town beaches, and she goes on to say that this is a real problem. The quality of life that we are used to is slowly eroding before our eyes as we watch it. The next letter is regards to a safe haven, and I would Ginny Miren to come up and read this letter. It is from Eastern Long Island Hospital, and it addresses the issue of their concern that Mattituck Inlet be kept open, and the creek. VIRGINIA MEYRAN: This is from Paul Connor, the President and CEO of Eastern Long Island Hospital. Dear Mrs. McGreevy. In discussion with one of our hospital auxians, I have come to learn that support is needed to draw attention to the Mattituck Inlet/Bailey Beach environmental issue. The main issue is the potential closure of Mattituck Inlet by a storm powerful enough to breach Bailey's Beach, thus rendering Mattituck Inlet un-navigable. To the extent that Mattituck Inlet represents a safe harbor to boaters seeking emergency services, Eastern Long Island Hospital supports the cause of the $outhold $ound-Mattituck Inlet Preservation League. The maintenance of any area, be it land or sea, for emergency access is essential to the well being of the east end. Very truly yours, Paul J. Connor III, President and CEO of Eastern Long Island Hospital. DORIS MCGREEVY: The next letter I have is concern letter by the Mattituck Chamber of Commerce. It says, Dear Ms. McGreevy. The Board of Directors of the Mattituck Chamber of Commerce has discussed the DEC determination of the potential breach of Bailey Beach, and possible closure of Mattituck Inlet, which would have serious economic consequences to many of Mattituck's chamber members. The Mattituck Inlet brings thousand of visitors each year to our town from Connecticut, 6/5/01 12 Rhode Island, as well as the Hudson River and other parts of Long Island. The closure of the inlet would not only effect commercial business located on the creek, but the downtown shopping district as well. Please keep me informed of the progress you are making, and let me know how the Mattituck Chamber membership can help in securing the necessary solution to the inlet problem. I look forward to hearing from you. Sincerely, Bill Bladykas. The next letter is from one of the property owners associations. This is from Sabastian Cove, and they also offer their support for this worthy cause. Now, you may say, well, this all sounds very nice, but what can we do to help? I love to hear those words. What can we do to help? We would like a committee of some sort put together for this cause to keep the inlet open, to keep Bailey Beach from breaching, from changing the quality of life as we know it in this area, and we would also like this committee oversee on a monthly basis what the short term solution is, putting the sand on Bailey Beach, and the long term solution through the Army Corp, and all that help. If we can have funding from the Town, from the local, and the County, and the State in some cooperative manner to resolve this short-term solution we would appreciate all your efforts on this. However, we haven't gotten anything concrete about these things yet, and it is meaningful. It is meaningful to us. This is our backyard. You may not walk Bailey Beach. We do. It is our home area. We want it for us. We want it for our children. We want it forever, and what we don't want is a cavalier attitude that it is not problem, and it is not going to happen, and so on, and so forth. Before I finish, Michelle, would you like to say a few words? MICHELLE GLOVER: I am here to support Doris, and my neighbors, and friends who live in the area. My husband and I own a business in the area in Mattituck. We are also members of the Bailey Beach Homeowners Association, and we are very concerned about the ecological impact of the wetlands near our home. One of the prime reasons that we bought our home there was to enjoy the beach, and the wetlands, and we believe it is in jeopardy at this point, and in need of some short term solution. We just really want to maintain our quality of life, our property values, and as taxpayers we are looking for some assistance in that. DORIS MCGREEVY: I would like to show you some bigger pictures of the problem. RON MCGREEVY: My name is Ron McGreevy, Southold Sound-Mattituck Inlet Preservation League. I gave you three small pictures, which are pretty hard to see, but they show three areas of concern at Bailey's Beach. There is not only one possibility of a breach. There is two possibilities of a breach, and one very, very large possibility of undermining the creekside of the east jetty. I will show you this picture here. See this all water. One year ago that was all land. In one year this whole thing has been eaten out. At low tide this is all exposed. I didn't say it was going to undermine. The Corp of Engineers is worried that it is liable to undermine and these rocks are liable to slide right into the channel. That would be disastrous. In the same area, and I have pictures, these pictures, and smaller ones I took a month later, and it is two foot further back in one month. This is the area just east of the east jetty. In fact the east jetty is right here, coming out right here. Where this is here a month later it is back to here, about two foot further back, this line of shrubs here, that is now the bluff line there. This is the second area. The third area is an area roughly midpoint between the Boy Scout camp and the east jetty, which is right here. This has been over the top numerous times by the Sound. It is getting narrower, and narrower, and one good storm with the right wave field coming from the right direction is going to walk right through here, and any one of these scenarios is going to block the inlet. Now, we have pictures we have been taking for years documenting this. I have ones taken a week ago, one month after these, and it is far worse. Another problem we see, we need permits to do any work on the beach, but this town's Highway Department carte blanche mines sand, and dumps it at the end of Bailey's Beach to protect the road. Checking with DEC I don't think that is legal without permits. Now, they have been doing this for years. Whether they are doing it at other areas, other waterfront roads, I don't know, but Bailey's Beach they are. They scoop the sand up, and they dump it at the end. That is sort of solving the Town's problem with the road, but it is not solving the total problem, and I don't think they should have a right to do this. If I own any waterfront property you have to get a permit to do anything down there. Now, we would really like to get an erosion mitigation work group going like we had in the past, when we were connected with Goldsmith's. That mandate for that ran out, and a separate one was convened. I believe Mr. Murphy was the Chair of it, just Goldsmith's. I believe that lasted a year, and what the outcome was, I don't know. It just went out of existence. We feel now that we need one to address the Mattituck Inlet, and only the Mattituck Inlet area, possibly on a monthly basis to begin with, and as things progress maybe less frequently. I think the Department of State should be involved, the DEC should be involved. Tom Pfeifer, who is in charge of the 111 study through the Corp of Engineers should be involved. That is what we asking the Town now to institute something like. It has to come from the Town. It can't come from us as a group. It has to come from the Town. It is a disaster going to happen in Mattituck Inlet. Now, that inlet was not built on the whim of the Corp of Engineers. It was built because the local area farmers wanted a way of shipping their produce out. They wanted to ship farm produce out, and fertilizers out, evidently from the ducks, I don't know, but fertilizers was one of them mentioned. Originally it was supposed to be a Horton's 6/5/01 13 Point. I don't know how they could do it there, or where it would be, but originally it was supposed to Horton's Point, then the Corp of Engineers approved it for Mattituck. What happened in the interim I don't know. My knowledge comes from reading old newspaper articles, and they are not that complete. That is it I will turn it back over to my wife, Doris. Thank you. DORIS MCGREEVY: So, if you have any questions, because since you didn't meet us at our meeting, feel free to ask. I would like to ask you a question. What do you make of all this, Jean? SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: If I may. I met with your group over, I am going saying over the last three or four years. It has been a long time, longer perhaps than it should be. I met on your deck. I brought Assemblywoman Acampora, and Ken LaValle the first time they ever attended to try and involve them, and I don't want to speak on behalf of the Board, but part of our position has been the fact that this was done by a Federal agency. It doesn't necessarily give us the ability for funding. Now, we have just recently.., you people were working with Congressman Forbes for quite some time, and nothing happened. We now have Mr. Grucci on board, Congressman Grucci, and he just obtained grant money for the 111 study, so, that can be done by the Army Corp of Engineers. I realize that it doesn't solve this as quickly as you would like it, and I think that is terms of the long range. I would the Board at the next meeting, I will put it on for discussion, and they can discuss and look at the solutions to a short term. But, I think they need more information before they start expressing their position. So, it will go on the next Board agenda during the Work Session, and we will look at this. I know Jim McMahon handles a lot of this, and I think it is important that you have his input, and anyone else at that time to help the Board reach a decision of what direction they cam go. DORIS MCGREEVY: We also feel though that is the Town's problem, you know, officials of the town. It is the people's problem, and we are very proud to have you represent us, and some people are here today, you know, to discuss this. (tape change.) SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Is there anyone else that would like to address the Town Board? Yes, sir? SANFORD HANAUER: My name is Sanford Hanauer. I also live in Mattituck along the bluffs. I have seen the sand just disappear, and nothing come back. Kids can't go swimming down at the beach. It is all rocky. It used to be beautiful sand. In times of disaster I have seen the Town take care of the beaches at Kenny's Beach, Southold Beach, why can't we get sand down on Bailey's Beach. My name is Sanford Hanauer. Some people call me, Sandy. I would like to sand on the beach. As I said before, you have dumped sand when there has been disasters on Kenny's Beach, and Southold Beach, why can't we do it on Bailey's Beach. At the same time we would also protect the possibility of a breach in the inlet. We have discussed it at several meetings. I have discussed it with Jean, and I don't get any straight answers. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: You don't get a straight answer, because we do not have solution at this time. To transport that amount of sand would be just astronomical, and the town does not have that funding. SANFORD HANAUER: Aren't there funds someplace.? I hope you can find it in your budget. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: I know it is not there now. SANFORD HANAUER: We have been talking about this for a number of years now, and we just keep getting put off, put off, put off. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: On the long term, but not on the short term. SANFORD HANAUER: I said to Congressman Grucci, if he was driving a car, and he put his foot on the brake, and the brake didn't hold he would take it in, and get in repaired, and not wait for a real disaster, and I think that is what we are headed for at Mattituck Inlet. Thank you. CHRIS AMORY: My name is Chris Amory. I am with the same group, and I have for you a petition of 250 people I would like to give you. For fifty years they mined sand out of that area. The trucks were able to take sand out, so I think that the trucks can put sand back. That is number one. We talk long term and short term. We talk Fed. We talk the State. The fact of the matter is the biggest component of the people that will be affected is not the State, it is not the Fed, it is going to us. We can work on a long term section 111 that will take upwards of eighteen months to resolve just to get the paperwork in place. We are talking about an erosion working now backwards towards the sea that we are getting now from both sides. We are running out of time. We can talk about how we are going to 6/5/01 14 do our paperwork. We can talk about bore samples. We can continue that, but the fact of the matter is we are running out of time. The tens of millions of dollars of business that come in and out of that inlet are going to affected. People within the town of Mattituck themselves they recognize that already. Preservation in terms of the environmental aspect, it is already recognized. We are all recognizing it. The State, the DEC, everybody recognizes it. Please, folks, we need you to recognize it. Thank you. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Thank you. Anyone else like to address the Town Board? We will finish with this topic first, and then anything that is Town business. Would you like to speak on this topic? Would you like to speak on another issue? STEVE GRUBER: Hi. My name is Steve Gruber, and ! am from Greenport. ! come once again bearing two questions. A few weeks ago ! was here with a couple of questions, and went away not feeling particularly good about the answers ! got, but ! am bringing two more questions with regard to the shelter situation. First question, ! would like to know why the Town Board has repeatedly ignored, appears to have ignored, the League board request, that communications from the Town Board go to the League board rather than through Gillian Wood? Can someone enlighten me on that? SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Because it was she that the Board felt they would like to have serve on the committee. ! think John will be having one more meeting, and then we will be ready to start going out for bids. COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: We, again, not this last meeting, but the meeting before, put a committee together for the construction of a shelter. We had previous meetings before that on the needs for the shelter, and the League was involved in every one of them. We compiled a whole list of needs that the shelter felt was needed. The shelter turned us on to the League, turned us on to many different avenues, Hounds Quarters, so we put a committee together on, because we had the money in place, on the construction of the shelter, the structure we were talking about, the layout, the operational floor plan layout. We believe that the Director of the shelter, the person who spends a daily, every day there, forty hours a week, sometimes more, in the facility, knowing the work flow, and knowing the operation of the daily operations would be more beneficial, would be very beneficial on the committee than the Board members, who are not involved in the flow of work every single day. That is what we wanted, an operations person on the committee. Someone who understands the operation, that was the reason for asking Gillian to be on the committee. STEVE GRUBER: Okay. My question is more that the League had requested, my understanding is that the League had requested that communications go through the Board, which make up Gillian's employers, and the request seems to have been ignored. COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: Again, ! am going to say ignored is the wrong word. We had the plans drawn up. ! myself, had one of my employees drop it off at the shelter. ! said, when you go there give it to Gillian, because she is probably going to be the person there. As far as ! am concerned if ! drop something off at the shelter ! am assuming it will go to Gillian, and Gillian will pass it along to the Board. ! don't know where else to bring a copy of the plan for the Board. If ! can't bring it to the shelter then ! need to know where else ! can bring it. But, it was brought to the shelter and the instructions, ! even wrote a memo to Gillian when ! dropped the plans off, was, Gillian, here is the floor plan of the shelter, please, review it, and get back to us with any sort of critiques. She sent me a memo back, she said, ! need to pass this on to my Board for their review. Fine. You know? It's been a month pass it on, and get back to us, and that is where it at. So, ! mean, you know, we don't ignore anybody. We took a lot of input early on. We have been through this for six or seven months. We took a lot of input from the League, and we wrote down. We had painstaking meetings on the needs, and need assessments on what they would like, and we listened to their needs. We incorporated those needs, those needs assessments and all those painstaking needs into the floor and the design of the shelter once the money was in place. So, again, we only put Gillian on so we can have that person who deals with meat and potatoes every single day, to tell us if our workflow was wrong. The needs were already given to us. The requirements were given to us. We took them. We incorporated them. Now we want to know did we lay them out on the floor properly, or do we have them ass backwards? STEVE GRUBER: ! think my concern obviously is more about what appears to me to be a communication gap. That is my concern with that question, but thank you for your answer. The other question ! had, and it kind of talks to directly to what Mr. Romanelli just explained, that Gillian serving on the committee. Given the fairly lengthy history of inadequate shelter design management, and ! know this Board was not necessarily a part of that history, but given that context it seems to me it would make sense, and ! have said this before that someone be on the committee who is experience is if not exclusively at least very strongly in shelter design, not veterinarian hospital design, not other 6/5/01 15 related things, but long term shelter design? That has been forth I know several times, and it appears, Mr. Romanelli, ! will say, to be ignored. That is probably the wrong word here. COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: I goes down to we are using a design and specs from a company called Hounds Quarters, who specialize in animal shelter .... STEVE GRUBER: Pieces, not putting them together. COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: Structures, buildings, they design and fabricate the buildings, and the pieces. This company was given to us by the League. STEVE GRUBER: But they are not designing the shelter. COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: Oh, yes, they do. I can show you the catalog. They have hundreds of different sizes, shapes, designs. STEVE GRUBER: ! believe they design the pieces. They are not the kind of experts, my understanding is they are not the kind of experts who ! would like to see my tax dollars paying for to build a shelter that ! am going to have to live with for fifty years. COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: They are a design company, that specializes in shelter. Yes, can you buy pieces from them, can you buy kennel pieces from them, can you? Yes, absolutely. Do they absolutely fabricate and design the structures? Yes. They have a book this thick with blueprints of different shelters. STEVE GRUBER: They are pre-fab. COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: That is what they do. That is all they do. They do not build structures for, you know, gas stations. They do structures for animal shelters. STEVE GRUBER: ! understand. The point thing here, ! want you to hear my concern as a taxpayer, and someone who is going to be involved with the animals probably for the rest of my life, and will probably have to live with whatever the shelter is for the rest of my life out here, ! am not comfortable with that decision. So, ! would just leave it at that. Thank you. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Yes, ma'am? LORRAINE ANDRADE: Hi. Lorraine Andrade, Mattituck. A few questions about the shelter. Any donations come in? SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: One for $100.00. LORRAINE ANDRADE: That's it. Okay, and when is the next building committee meeting? Do you have a date for that? SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: John will be setting it up. COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: I was just talking to Barbara Rudder, and the Supervisor also said we will probably set a meeting up, if not the end of this week the early part of next week. We have to coordinate six or seven people, so it will be change probably two or three times before the date is set. LORRAINE ANDRADE: Okay. JIM BITSES: ! was talking to two very nice people a couple of weeks ago, and it became obvious to me they didn't really know what we do at the shelter, and ! suspect that the Town Board doesn't know either. In an event, we are a branch of town government which is rather unusual. We operate under Article 7 of the Agriculture and Markets Law, and more particularly Section 77.2, which requires that every dog seized pursuant to this article, and to the Agriculture and Markets Law, or any local laws, ordinances, or orders adopted or issued pursuant thereto, shall be properly cared for, shall be sheltered, shall be fed, shall be watered for the redemption period provided by the said article. We have no redemption period. We keep them forever. Riverhead keeps them for seven days. That is the difference, one of the major differences. We have one of the very few shelters that has no redemption period. We will keep a dog, or a cat, as long as it will take until somebody comes forward and adopts them. Now, Section 77 defines proper shelter, feeding and watering. We feed our animals with science diet. Why? It is the most expensive, but it is the cheapest. We found that feeding them with other 6/5/01 16 feeds, cheaper feeds, gave rise to an enteric problems, gut problems, and we discovered that science diet, even though it costs more in the run, protects them from these enteric disturbances in the long run, which is cheaper for us in the long run. This is the way we operate. We operate for the benefit of the animals, and not for the benefit of ourselves, or the Town of Southold. Now, it is a municpal shelter, and we are running this municipal shelter, and it cost approximately $200,000 a year, which this very nice couple didn't seem to understand, that we get paid $130,000 a year, thereabouts, and we have to come up with the rest of the money, and how do we do that? We beg. We got to the public, and we beg, and manage to raise $30,000 to $60,000 a year to keep a public facility running. Now, we have been dealt a body blow. One of the Board members, who didn't have clue mentioned the fact that we had a fund of about a half a million dollars. That is not our money. It is an endowment fund. That is not our money. Point is, we have been dealt a body blow because everyone now assumes that we are rich. Oh, they have a half of a million dollars. North Shore has $60,000,000 endowment fund. Bid-A- Wee has $30,000,000. Well, Southold has a half of a million dollars, which was accumulated over thirty-eight years. It was accumulated very slowly through bequests, little bequests. So, there we are. Our supply of money has seriously deteriorated. We are hanging on by our eyelashes with a thrift shop. Of course, it was not then malice of forethought. It just came out. Everyone assumed that was our money. It is not our money. We are trustees. We have to protect that money. However, this is what happens when you develop kind of a small war, which we are calling a halt to as of today. We want to get back into the good graces of this Board. We are not in their good graces at the present time, particularly Jim Bitses, citizen of Southold. But, we can cure that. We can get together on this thing. We have looked at the plan provided. This is a prefab of Hounds Quarters, and it is good for Hounds Quarters, but not good for the animals for various reasons that we will go into in camera. In any event, let's get the ball rolling. Let's get the problem solving right out in front of us, and let's start talking again. Thank you. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Thank you, Jim. JIM BITSES: There is an ominous silence in the air. ANN PHILLIPS: Good evening. My name is Ann Phillips, a taxpayer from Cutchogue. I also don't quite understand why the Animal League is not invited to the building committee for the new Southold Animal Shelter. Mr Romanelli, you seem to feel that you have enough input, and I think when you are building a facility such as this, I don't think that you can ever have enough input, and I would think that these people would be a help to you, and I just, myself as a taxpayer, just can not understand this. COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: Just one question, do you know how much input you have? Because I have repeatedly watched you week after week come up here, and made very strong accusations. It always seems as though you are not fully informed. ANN PHILLIPS: But you said on many occasions, Mr. Romanelli, I have had so much input I don't need anymore. You have said this at Town Board meetings. COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: That is right. ANN PHILLIPS: But then what is the number of input that you have? COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: The plan that is drawn with the number of kennels, and again all the requests of the League as far as the isolation room, and the office space, and the prep room, and the storage, and mechanical, and the number of kennels, the size of the kennels, and the drainage, and the septic, and all the issues that we have been through, you know hundreds of times, were all addressed. ANN PHILLIPS: So, you mean that then it is the end. I mean... COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: At one point you need to come to a point, and say, it is the end to go forward. ANN PHILLIPS: Yes, I believe that we have to go forward. COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: We can't go on like this forever, and keep on saying, we need more input. Someday we need to say we have the input, and we need to go forward, and build and go on. I mean, if we are going to continue to just keep saying we need more input, when does the end come? ANN PHILLIPS: But, when you are setting up a plan I would think that the more people that have sitting in the circle .... 6/5/01 17 COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: Let's just go down the list of all the people that did involve in the planning process. Okay. When we can start from scratch again, and we can go back six months ago, and go through this again, start from scratch. We have number one, you have the League, okay? The Board members of the League. Okay? We had Gillian, an employee of the League. We had the State Ag and Markets Director. We had Suffolk County Chapter of Cruelty to Animals involved. We had Hounds Quarters involved. We had a local veterinarian who was a veterinarian hospital involved. We had a Town Engineer, who is a licensed New York State Architect involved. So, where else can we go? We now have another veterinarian, who has a hospital, who wants to be on the committee. We are welcoming him on that. ANN PHILLIPS: Absolutely, but a vet takes care of sick animals. COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: And I want to believe that a vet who is trained on taking care of animals ..... ANN PHILLIPS: But if you had an opportunity to work with a member of the Board and vet, I can't imagine that you would chose the vet, because he takes care of sick animals. I don't think that he goes into the building. Ag and Market does not set criteria for building an animal shelter. TOWN ATTORNEY YAKABOSKI: Yes, they do. COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: Yes, they do. ANN PHILLIPS: No, they don't. They give you the minimum. They are giving us. Excuse me? COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: I think you are a bit confused. ANN PHILLIPS: No. I was told that they do the very minimal amount, that there is not a system with this. That with the Hounds Quarters there is not the system, and by that I mean the drainage, the ventilation, and the isolation. COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: You are 100% right, that Hounds Quarters does not put the drainage into their specs, but if you look at the drawing that we put up using Hounds Quarters size buildings we heard the cry from the League that the drainage in the present facility was wrong. Okay? And after listening to them at one of the meetings, and taking their input we agree. We said, you know what? The drainage in the existing facility is all wrong. We discussed where the drainage should be, so it doesn't freeze, so you can wash the inside kennel and the outside kennel. ANN PHILLIPS: And they don't come together. COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: It doesn't come together. It is not in the center hallway. You know what, if you look at the new plan that is the way we did it. We put the drainage where the League told us was the proper spot to put it, because the old system didn't work. No one argued that, so okay, we put it in the plan, because that is where it belongs, and they were 100% right, so we listened to the League, and we took that into consideration. We can do that with every step of the way. The isolation we did the same thing, separate ventilation. It makes perfect sense. We even asked the veterinarian, who his career is to take care of animals. He said, separate ventilation. Boom, separate ventilation Drainage for the isolation room should not be tied into the existing drainage. Great. We heard it from the League. We heard it from the vet on the committee. That is what we did. Okay? We put it in a separate drainage. You know, it goes on and on. Again, we have listened. We have heard. We tried to address every single concern that came about, and I think we did. ANN PHILLIPS: But, the plans that I have seen of the shelter, this is not the final? COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: That is only a floor plan. ANN PHILLIPS: It is a floor plan, that you can go on, because in the isolation part they have a fencing type instead of a say a wall to prevent the cross of bacteria, and so on. COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: A wall should be put in, so that ..... ANN PHILLIPS: So, you can make it... COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: Absolutely, we are here. We have incorporated everything. 6/5/01 18 ANN PHILLIPS: It is very funny that, you know, there is only one thing that you request, and you don't seem to listen to us, and that is to just have a member of the board on. I don't see what the problem is. COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: There were Board members on the committee all along up until we went to got the funding of the money, and then we said, now let's build it. Okay? At that point we didn't put a board member on it. It went again to that person who deals with .... ANN PHILLIPS: I understand why you went, and that is a good idea. COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: We also went to a veterinarian to get his feelings into it. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: I think I am going to move this along. What I am expecting is one more meeting of this committee, and then we are going to go out for bids. I mean we are going to move this thing. ANN PHILLIPS: Okay. I just wanted to talk about open meetings with the Sunshine Law, that became law in 1977, and this in brief it gives the public the right to attend meetings of the public bodies, listen to debates, watch the decision making process in action, and the public bodies consist of two or more people that conduct public meetings and perform a government function for the states, such as in the city, county, towns, villages and schools, and the meetings are for the purpose of conducting business such as any time a quorum of public body gathers for the purpose of discussing public business, the meeting can be open to the public whether or not there is an intent to take action, and regardless of the manor in which this meeting is gathered may be characterized. The law is also about the silence. If you participate in this work session, such as you have, the public may speak at these meetings, or they don't have to. That is up to the Board as to whether they would or not. The law also requires the time and place of the meetings prior to every meeting. So, this would mean that we would be able to attend your work meetings. This is all new to me. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: The committee's work session? ANN PHILLIPS: No, no, no, your Town Board. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: The Town Board's Work Session? ANN PHILLIPS: Yes. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: You can attend every one, and listen. We do not invite you to talk, because it is a time the Board having to do work. ANN PHILLIPS: I understand that. So, I can come in here and sit in on it. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: You certainly can. Any time. TOWN ATTORNEY YAKABOSKI: Absolutely. ANN PHILLIPS: I can. Okay. TOWN ATTORNEY YAKABOSKI: It starts at nine o'clock every other Tuesday. ANN PHILLIPS: It is? Oh, okay, fine. Thank you very much. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: You are more than welcome. Anyone else like to address the Town Board? CHARLES SIREY: I am concerned about the Bailey Beach Mattituck Inlet question. My name is Charles Sirey, and I am a Mattituck, and a taxpayer of Southold, and I am on the Board of Browers Woods Association. We wrote a letter in support of Doris McGeevy, and I would like to read it to you. To Doris McGeevy of the Southold Sound-Mattituck Inlet Preservation League. We, the Directors, of Browers Woods Association represent the interests of more than eighty households of the Brower Woods section of Mattituck, as well as residents of the immediate surrounding areas. As such we wish to express our wholehearted support for your current efforts to prevent breaching and further erosion of Bailey's Beach, and to preserve the Mattituck Inlet, and entrance to Mattituck Creek on Long Island Sound. We believe with you that the breach is imminent and that one more serious storm might force it. I might add that this year we are looking at you hear a lot of reports of how serious the hurricane 6/5/01 19 season is going to be this year. A breach carries serious environmental, economic, and lifestyle consequences for the entire community. The present channel would quickly fill in eliminating it as a navigable inlet for the commercial and pleasure boaters. Boaters would lose the Sound's only North Shore shelter east of Port Jefferson. Homeowners on the creek with docks and boats would lose the use of these amenities, often the primary reasons why they purchased their homes in the first place, and suffer immediate and drastic lose of property values. Homes without waterfront may not drop as drastically, but they are likely to suffer some degree of lose as well. There is some 29 commercial fishing operations and three marinas on the Mattituck Inlet that would have to close up shop. The twenty-eight acres of wetlands immediately behind Bailey's Beach would be threatened directly. The wetlands all the way to the south end of Mattituck Creek would lose some their filtering effectiveness as the tide power weakened. Since Mattituck Creek is a man-made estuary, and not fed by a stream the gradual filling in of the creek is not an unlikely possibility. Finally various youth and civil groups, such as the Boy Scouts, who now use Bailey's Beach for outings would find their activities curtailed. They could lose use of the beach all together if the erosion continued, an extremely likely possibility. We believe with you that it will cost considerably less to remedy the situation before rather than after the breach. Consequently our board supports your practical recommendations to save the inlet by preventive methods. One, dredging the inlet entrance just inside it as well as some of the sand barred areas north of the inlet. Jim Kaminski regularly goes aground out there. He says about 700 feet off the jetty you can walk at low tide, and he tells me that when he is fishing in the winter the wind picks up a bit, he runs for home, because if there is a three foot swell he can't get into the inlet. We would like to restore sand immediately to the dunes of Bailey's Beach on the east side of the jetty, and three, finding some ongoing method to shift sand from the west to the east in order to reduce the possibility of such threats in the future. So, this is our letter in support. What strikes me is that this is such a drastic possibility. It could have damaging effects to the entire community, and yet it seems that it has just been going on for years, and years, and years, and nothing has ever been done about it, and now everybody is up in arms, and we really need at this point a short term solution to take care of the sand that has swept away on the east side, and to replace that as quickly as possible. That is first, and then it would be very nice if the Town, and the County, and the State could get together, and put some money behind it, and really take care of this problem for the future. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Anyone else like to address the Town Board? Yes, sir? DR. CYRUS AGARABI: My name is Dr. Cyrus Agarabi. I am a physician. I live at 675 Westview Drive. First I want to thank the Board and Supervisor. They have done a great job. I have been here for twenty-two years. I think they have accomplished more than any other Board that I know. But, this is not enough to stop there. We need their help. Mattituck is not hilly, does not have a beautiful trees, and not beautiful park, but the people they want to live in this town. You heard it. You read that. The people they talk about that. Value is up. It is mostly because of the beaches, inlet, creek that you have. If you don't take care of those we will like any other area upstate New York. The value is water, waterfront, beaches, creek, and inlet. We have a Mattituck Inlet. This inlet is a Federal anchorage. It is not the Town. That we understand. The creek is essential for economy, beauty, and safety. It is called safe haven. I am sure a lot of people, they don't realize this creek is a safe place for not only the people that are here, but for any boat that moves in Long Island Sound. What it means from Port Jefferson to Orient Point, if you are in a boat you have heart attack, you have fire, you are stalled, there is no place that you can go. The only place that you can come into the inlet, town dock, police, ambulance, hospital, food, physician, whatever you need. So, if we don't have this inlet it is not the people in this town that is going to suffer. The people that they travel by large and small boat that travel in Long Island Sound they have problems. Our economy depends on this inlet. If you go in the town, you go on Love Lane, you ask the people there in any shop, you will see in summer a good amount of their income comes from there. If you travel through this inlet you will see the beautiful inlet. You have a lot of birds, nice trees, and it is a gorgeous place. Now, forty years ago or so, they dredged this inlet. They dredge this inlet, and they were supposed to dredge it every thirty, or forty, or so years. They know if they don't dredge it, it is going to close up. I have maps, I have plans, that it shows that the inlet was connecting to Peconic, and you could go back and forth. As I mentioned before I think sometime ago, the Mat-A-Mar was a hotel, and the people they used to come to this hotel. I have a picture. I have a brochure. I have a price for the rooms, and the dingys. They used to paddle from here to Peconic. So, as a result this is going to close up. When I came here twenty-one years ago the water used to be about 50 or 100 feet more. Now gradually, gradually has been getting less, and less, and less. On Wickham Avenue we have water under the bridge, but it is going back. It is getting less. We have a lot of sandbars. Every day you will see a boat stuck in there. Two weeks ago we went out with one of the representatives, one of the Congresswoman. We saw a large boat stuck in there. We said, see how they are stuck. When the boat is stuck in there it means $2,000, $3,000 expenses some time, and so on, and so forth. So, the fact is we are not talking about a few boats in the inlet. Even not a marina. We are talking about the whole town, safety of the people, economy of the people, and the beauty of the town. Now, we understand the Town is not responsible for this, but the Town they live 6/5/01 20 there, and they are our representative. We expect that they help us. Somehow we get through. The question is not a few dollars temporary repairing, and some sand in there. It is not going to solve the problem. You are not going to put a band-aid on that. Army Corp loves to do that. ! know someone here that did work a lot on the inlet, because my manager worked with her before. This is not a question of today. This is fifty years that ! know. The Army Corp of Engineers accepts the responsibility knows that this has to be dredged. The DEC knows that, but we don't have power. We don't have voice. The best example ! can give you ! used to live in Seacliff. Next to us is Glen Cove. In Glen Cove ! used to have my boat there. What a dump. There was garbage there for years. Nobody could do anything. They elect one Mayor. This Mayor knew Congresswoman, or Congressman, and so on, and so forth. Within one year they got #11,000,000 for cleaning. The place is perfect, cleaned up. They went back, and got $8,000,000. For many years they couldn't get anything to clean up there, so as a result we must get together, we ask. This is not a few hundred thousand dollars. We are talking about a few million dollars, but for government a few million dollars is nothing. They are talking about billions, and they have the money. The money is there. Anybody who talks, anybody who screams, anybody goes, anybody that can call, can get the money. This money, you hear it all the time, it is used in some other areas. We don't go it, because we don't have a voice, but we must. If the people, plus the Board, they get together, and put pressure we will be able to do something because everybody accepts that something has to be done. ! am sure when they start most probably ! will not be here any more, because the way that they go, constantly they are studying. They did spend $500,000 so far to study, and $40,000 more, $100,000 more, but how long can you study, and you don't do anything? They know what has to be done, but a study is to bide time you see. It is nothing that needs research, so as a result ! believe that if the Town really get this project, ! think everyone in theTown here is willing to help whatever they can, but the essential part is the Town really can do a lot, and we have had meetings. We have had groups, and so on and so forth, but we can not accomplish much. If two Congressman, or two Congressman, or letter, or even we are collecting signatures, but that is not sufficient unless really you people, you get the flag, and you go, and we follow you. Thank you. ANNA COSIMANO: My name is Anna Cosimano. I am a Southold resident. I am President of the North Fork Animal Welfare League. I only came tonight to listen, but listening to all this, I don't who would like to answer, did you hire an architect to build the new Town Hall? SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Yes, we hired an architect. ANNA COSIMANO: Is he also working together with James Richter, the Town Engineer? COUNCILMAN RICHTER: Yes, we hired an architectural firm for a design of Town Hall. Amerousi, Bartlett and, ! will give it to you later, there is one other name involved there. James Richter is working with the information. ANNA COSIMANO: Well, answer me this. You can hire an architect for new your new Town Hall, why can't you just hire an architect that builds only animal shelters, so that you get it right the first time? COUNCILMAN RICHTER: I am sure we are going to get it right.. ANNA COSIMANO: Don't be too sure. You know other Boards in the past when they were building this shelter had the same feelings. They were sure, and the only sure way to do it is to get an architect, who knows the needs in animal shelters. This is our only problem with the Town Hall. Get an architect who knows the needs. That's it. COUNCILMAN RICHTER: Hounds Quarters, this is what this firm does. ANNA COSIMANO: Hounds Quarters puts the buildings up. Hounds Quarters do not do the ventilation. They don't do the plumbing. They don't do the electric. All you people know about are the drains. We are not experts. Gillian is not an expert, and the Town Engineer is not an expert on animal shelters. Period. COUNCILMAN RICHTER: He is a licensed architect. ANNA COSIMANO: Architect for houses, buildings, for whatever. Animal shelters have special needs. Look, you know we have been through this, and we really don't want to go any more. Do it right the first time. Get an architect to draw the plans of what is needed at the shelter. That is all we are asking. Thank you. 6/5/01 21 LUCY CUTLER: Good evening. My name is Lucy Cutler, and I am a year-round resident on Bailey Beach, and I am here tonight to speak really on behalf of the endangered birds, Buffy, Piping Plovers, and the Least Terns, and as I looked over at that photograph there this evening I thought that must be Bailey Beach, because that is what it looks like to all of us, who know it, and walk it, and love it, and we all want to see it stay that way. We all want to see that way for these endangered Piping Plovers and Terns. I believe you have a letter from Beverly Prentice, who is President of the North Fork Audubon Society. She has been monitoring this site for the last three or four years, and according to the monitoring records, which are filed with the Federal agency the Piping Plovers have not been nesting on Bailey Beach for the last two years. This year they are present in feeding, but they are nesting on the West Side where obviously there is much more sand. So, she is very concerned, as we all are, about the erosion on the east side of the jetty and the lose of habitat for both the Plovers and the Terns, because continued erosion means lose of the site from all of these birds, not just for the community that uses the beach. So, I just want impress upon the Board that we are all concerned about this. The groups who are monitoring this site are concerned, and the records indicate that the habitat is being lost, and the birds are losing it. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Doris shared the letter with us, so we have a copy. Anyone else like to address the Town Board? Mr. Beebe? TED BEEBE: This is kind of a tough thing for me to do really, because I do know most of the fellows that were involved, and I wish I could talk like the doctor did, and I wouldn't have much problem with this. On Friday, May 25th, I just happened to go to Cutchogue village, and go into Ireland's deli, and there sat four police officers, number one, number two, and two police officers. So, I mean, that constitutes really a large sum of money that is sitting there, and which in my days, which at one time I did a little police work, that we weren't allowed to do such a thing as that, congregate like that in a public place. You didn't expect your subordinates to this. So, I say, I don't know what is the matter with these fellows, so I kind of walked over towards them, and I says, don't you have a conscience? One of them said, what do you mean by that? TED BEEBE: I said, well, I said this was always kind of a no-no. With that, Number one, Chief, stood up, said to me, you have been an A.H. all your life. This is in a public place, and this is your chief. Who watches over the chief'?. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: The Town Board. TED BEEBE: So, what's going to happen about that? SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Would you like to put your complaint in writing so the Town Board will review it? There are always two sides to every story. TED BEEBE: I will tell you what. I don't know if we are going to have to have two sides. I don't see why I have to make a complaint. Why don't you just go and ask the other officers that were there whether this is true or not. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: The Board, Ted, will handle it. TED BEEBE: Yeah, they will. Uh huh. TOWN ATTORNEY YAKABOSKI: There are procedures. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Put it in writing. TED BEEBE: I mean, I don't know about you people when you grew up, but I never was able in my life come about, and talk to somebody that was that many years my superior in age, and talk to them like that. Why do you come off of'?. This is your number one man. This is your wonderful man. This is the man that had two or three before you before he was given this job of chief. Right? Ty this. Ty that. Ty this. Ty that. What is Ty so wonderful? Does he think he is God? COUNCILMAN MOORE: Mr. Beebe, excuse me. I am Chairman of the Police Committee. If you care to put in your complaint, I have jotted down the date, I will be happy to look into this matter. TED BEEBE: Yeah, I know how you are going to look into it. That's why you wear glasses, cause you got both eyes shut behind them probably. 6/5/01 22 COUNCILMAN MOORE: Thank you very much for your very informed comment. Put it in writing. I will take it to the Police Committee. TED BEEBE: But, the man must have had...Don't get arrogant with me, please. COUNCILMAN MOORE: ! am not being arrogant. ! think you are being very rude to me right now. TED BEEBE: ! am not rude to you. ! don't even know you. SUPERVISOR CaCHRAN: You may titter and laugh, but there are some things ! have to say. Mr. Beebe is my brother-in-law by marriage. He was married to my husband's sister. ! believe you are still married. His son .... ! am not going to go there. Ted, put it in writing. The Town Board will deal with it. TED BEEBE: But, why did the man blow off at me like that? Does he got a guilty conscience, or something? He is my nephew, right? Then he should have more respect for me, if ! am his uncle then, right? SUPERVISOR CaCHRAN: You should have respect for him also. TED BEEBE: ! did. ! didn't say anything to him. ! didn't address him. ! addressed them. COUNCILMAN MOORE: Mr. Beebe, this is the first ! have heard of this. ! have told you if you would be so kind to put your complaint in writing. TED BEEBE: ! am going to put the complaint into Police Headquarters. That is where ! am going to put it. COUNCILMAN MOORE: Fine, and ! will be given a copy of it. We will deal with it. Thank you. TED BEEBE: ! mean why does the guy have a guilty conscience? You know why? One reason, ! don't like to bring it up because he deprived his own cousin out of a position that he should have had. Right? COUNCILMAN MOORE: This is personal then. TED BEEBE: Sure, it is personal. You know what it is. SUPERVISOR CaCHRAN: Anyone else like to address the Town Board? CORA STALL: Cora Stoll from Southold. ! just want to refer briefly to what Anna Cosimano mentioned. ! would like ask the Town Board why don't we have an architect on this new shelter? ! have talked to several people from other towns. They can not believe that we would even think of building something like this without a competent architect. COUNCILMAN RICHTER: Okay. Look, this has been going on for quite a few months. We have an architect that works for the town. John has said it before, we reiterated this meeting after meeting. Trust me. We are doing the best for you. CORA STALL: ! don't want to get into that. ! just mean, why can't we get an outside architect? TOWN ATTORNEY YAKABaSKI: He is already on the payroll. CORA STALL: You mean Mr. Richter? COUNCILMAN RICHTER: Yes. CORA STALL: Why can't we get somebody other than that? COUNCILMAN RICHTER: Why? Why would we need to do that? CORA STALL: He is not an expert in that. COUNCILMAN RICHTER: We have researched this subject over and over again. This dog shelter is going to be a great dog shelter. The North Fork Animal Welfare League has done a great job. What ! 6/5/01 23 tell what I am getting...I am really starting to get short in patience. Excuse me, please, I am still talking. With the disrespect, please, we are trying to do the best we can for you, and seems meeting after meeting it is the same thing. CORA STOLL: Excuse me, but you are not answering my question, why? COUNCILMAN RICHTER: We have an architect. COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: Can you get a degree in architecture in New York State to specialize in animal shelters? CORA STOLL: That I don't know. I would assume so. COUNCILMAN RICHTER: No, you can not. The Department of Education licenses the architects in this state. CORA STOLL: You are telling me there will be nobody else other than Mr. Richter? COUNCILMAN RICHTER: No, Hounds Quarters has been involved. The League has been involved. The local vet has been involved. COUNCILMAN ROMANLLI: Hounds Quarters plans are stamped. CORA STOLL: You answered my question. Thank you. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Anyone else like to address the Town Board? JIM BITSES: ! have the plan of Hounds Quarters here. It is minimal plan pre-fab designed to garnish the biggest profit for Hounds Quarters, and the hell with the animals. It has two rows of pens, eighteen in each row, facing across at each other a distance of four or five feet. Can you imagine the bedlam that there will be with eighteen animals on one side, and eighteen animals on the other side barking incessantly? This Hounds Quarters plan is so badly flawed that we kind of laughed when we looked at it that anyone would even consider it. The wings housing the animals have to be separated by 120' and the butt of the Y, in other words it should be in the shape of a Y, and the butt of the Y should face towards the southwest. Why? Because that is where the prevailing wind comes from, and that is where it would be easiest to circulate air in a structure of this type. Things as simple and basic as that are not covered by this, or by your architect. We respectfully request that you let us bring our architect in, who is a specialist in these matters, a specialist, and in fact he is busy right now... Turn that this way, please (speaking to the Cablevision camera man). SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Jim, would you address your remarks to the Board. JIM BITSES: Yes, ma'am, ! will if the camera turns while ! am speaking. In any event he is now building a zoo on the west coast. That is the high regard in which he kept. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: This is a Southold Town Animal Shelter. We are going to see the meeting in the week. It will be the final meeting. We will have all the input, and we will begin to look into building this shelter. JIM BITSES: Without a specialized architect, is that correct? SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: We have already had people by looking at the plans tell ..... JIM BITSES: With a flawed plan like this. Madam, ! don't know you are going to shoot away $500,000 on a piece of crap. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Can ! have a motion to adjourn? Thank you for joining us. Moved by Councilman Richter, seconded by Councilman Romanelli, it was RESOLVED that this Town Board meeting be and hereby is adjourned at 8:47 P.M. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. 6/5/01 24 Elizabeth A. Neville Southold Town Clerk