HomeMy WebLinkAboutTB-01/30/2001GENERAL MEETING
JANUARY 30,2001
4:30 P.M.
A Regular Meeting of the Southold Town Board was held on January 30, 2001, at the Southold
Town Hall, Southold, New York. Supervisor Cochran opened the meeting at 4:30 P.M. with the Pledge
of Allegiance led by Town Clerk Neville.
Present:
Supervisor Jean W. Cochran
Justice Louisa P. Evans
Councilman William D. Moore
Councilman John M. Romanelli
Councilman Brian G. Murphy
Councilman Craig A. Richter
Town Clerk Elizabeth A. Neville
Town Attorney Gregory A. Yakaboski
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: May I have a motion to approve the minutes of November 9, 2000?
Moved by Councilman Murphy, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the minutes of the November 9, 2000, Town Board meeting be and hereby are
approved.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli,
Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Approval of the minutes of December 12, 2000.
Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Murphy, it was
RESOLVED that the minutes of the December 12, 2000 Town Board meeting be and hereby are
approved.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli,
Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: A motion to approve the audit of bills for January 30, 2001.
Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Councilman Murphy, it was
RESOLVED that the following bills be and here are ordered paid: General Fund Whole Town bills in
the amount of $395,983.35; General Fund Part Town bills in the amount of $23,644.72; Community
Development Fund bills in the amount of $10,000.00; Highway Fund Whole Town bills in the amount
of $30,005.79; Highway Fund Part Town bills in the amount of $2,860.39; Capital Projects Account
bills in the amount of $6,432.60; Landfill Cap & Closure bills in the amount of $14,600.00; Open
Space Capital Fund bills in the amount of $12,640.00;Community Preservation fund (2% Fund) bills in
the amount of $1,500.00; Computer System Upgrade bills in the amount of $7,895.01; E-W Fire
Protection District bills in the amount of $12,151.62; Fishers Island Ferry District bills in the amount
of $36,791.49; Refuse & Garbage District bills in the amount of $139,791.98; Southold Wastewater
District bills in the amount of $6,977.07; Fishers Island Sewer District bills in the amount of $570.50;
Southold Agency and Trust bills in the amount of $7,382.44; Fishers Island Ferry District Agency and
Trust bills in the amount of $357.23.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli,
Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: To set the date of the next Town Board meeting for Tuesday, February
13, 2001 at 7:00 P.M.
Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Murphy, it was
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RESOLVED that the next meeting of the Southold Town Board will be held at 7:00 P.M., Tuesday,
February 13, 2001 at the Southold Town Hall, Southold, New York.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli,
Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
I. REPORTS.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: As you know each month the Town Board receives Reports, not only
from the different departments, but also from the different committees. These are placed on file with
the Town Clerk. They are in the Town Clerk's Office, and are available to the public upon request and
a slight charge, $.25 a sheet. If there is anything you are interested in, or that you would like to have a
report on and see on the agenda, please, feel free to. We are very happy to be able to provide this
service.
1. APA Partners Claims Experience Report though December 2000.
2. Southold Town Board of Town Trustees Annual Report for 2000.
3. Island Group Administration, Inc. Plan Annul Report for 2000.
4. Southold Town Police Detective Division/JAB Monthly Report for December 2000.
5. Leave Time Summary Report for December 2000.
6. Southold Town Justice Bruer's Monthly Court Report for December 2000.
7. Southold Town Justice Evans' Monthly Court Report for December 2000.
8. Southold Town Justice Price's Monthly Court Report for December 2000.
II. PUBLIC NOTICES
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: As far as Public Notices are concerned, there were none.
III. COMMUNICATIONS.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: We have a copy of communications to the Building Department thanking
Ed Forrester and the staff in their assistance and help.
1. Copy of letter to Ed Forester, Building Department re thank you for help.
IV. PUBLIC HEARINGS
1. 5:00 P.M., on the Purchase of Development Rights of the Agricultural Lands of Blum, SCTM
#1000-75-5-1.
2. 5:02 P.M., on "A Local Law in Relation to Senior Citizen Exemption".
V. RESOLUTIONS.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: As you know the Town Board has a policy that prior to the passing of any
of the resolutions you have the opportunity for input in relation to the resolutions. There is time at the
end of the meeting for the audience to have input on any Town business. So, at this time I would ask if
anyone has any questions or input in relation to any of the printed resolutions on your agenda, and they
start with #98, because as I explained at the last meeting that we started with number one at the first of
the year, and we will be continuing the numbers rather than starting with number one each meeting.
This makes it easier to track when we have to look up something or go back and find information.
Yes, sir?
FRANK CARL1N: Mr. Carlin from Laurel. On number 100 and 101, when you give out for bids do
you have any idea of what price you are looking for on bids, or how does that work? I mean is there a
line, and then it is up or down, plus or minus when the bids come in? Do you have an idea what it
would cost, or do you get the bids and then you take the one you want?
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: This is for the Highway Department and I think prior to placing bids, you
know, you do research to see what these things cost, so that when the bids come in you have a general
idea of what is a fair price.
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COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: Frank, we hand a list of specifications that they must follow, so they
are all bidding on the same thing.
FRANK CARL1N: Here's my point here. How will we know in the future, I am a resident of Southold
Town, how will I know in the future what was bid settled for in money? Do you notify us in the future
of what the final bid was at another Town Board meeting or what?
COUNCILMAN MOORE: Yes, on a resolution.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Frank, three people submit bids, okay? They are opened. They selection
is made, then it comes back to the Town Board in the form of a resolution.
FRANK CARL1N: That's what I want to know. That's what I want to know. In the future we will know
how much that bid was. That's what I want to know. That takes care of three, four of them, whatever.
Number 105, I see you are appointing Dr. Richard here Superintendent of New Suffolk School, what
does that mean? To me when I see a school, what does that have to do with the Town Board?
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: We still have two schools that truant officer that you pay a nominal
amount to truant officers. What kind of school is it called?
COUNCILMAN RICHTER: It is a common school.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: It is a common school, and then happen to be one of the common
schools, and normally we appoint the Superintendent to be the truant officer. This year evidently their
Superintendent we use the wrong name and so we have correct that to make sure that the present
Superintendent is the truant officer.
FRANK CARL1N: So, the Town selects the truant officer, not the school.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: It is a common school.
FRANK CARL1N: It has nothing to do with the school then. It is the Town that does it.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: We do that, and I don't think it ever really used but it is something by
law you have to do.
FRANK CARL1N: Number 123 and 125, when I see office space in that Pond Park, what does that
mean by office space? Is that in Town Hall or what?
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Let me tell you. The County bought the property up there by Inlet Park
across the way from where Charlie Kazora lives, the old Telsey farm, and there is a house on it, so they
asked the Town is we would like to take the stewardship of the house itself. Now, you have different
non-profits within the town that need a little place to meet and have a desk or a phone. It was offered to
the North Fork Promotion. It was offered to Arts in Southold. It was offered to Audubon, which the
County preferred to have in there, and we also offered it to the Wine Council, who is a non-profit. So,
the two groups that are in there is the Audubon and Wine Council, and it brings up a nice point,
because what the Audubon has done is put trails all through the woods there, and it goes all the way
down around Inlet Pond, and when the weather gets nicer it is really a fantastic walk, but we have the
stewardship, and they have the office space, so we have a sub-agreement with them. We have an
agreement with the County.
FRANK CARL1N: So, you will using more or less the grounds, and they will be using the office
space.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: No, the Audubon uses the grounds, and one of the offices, and the office
is with the Wine Council. We don't use it at all.
FRANK CARL1N: You are going to purchase this out of town money, right?
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: We are not buying anything.
FRANK CARL1N: You are not buying anything? Oh.
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SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: We are responsible is the light bulb burns out, or somebody breaks a
window, we replace the glass. The larger things, a furnace, a roof, the County is responsible for that. It
is all worked out in a contract.
FRANK CARLIN: Thank you.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Anyone else like to address the Town Board?
NANCY SAWASTYNOWICZ: Just one question on the resolution about the restroom for New
Suffolk, number 100. Nancy Sawastynowicz, East Marion. There is going to be three bids. Could you
please consider something other than the cinder block look?
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN; That came up within the Board. ! believe it was Councilman Murphy. It
has always been a lovely little shingled building, and most of our bathrooms that are put, and we have
to do this for the Health Department, or we won't be able to open that particular beach this year. We
are trying to replace where they need one each year. They cost about $80,000 to build.
NANCY SAWASTYNOWICZ: With just the cinder block.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: They are usually built with cinder block because it is vandal proof. It has
to be set up with handicap doors, so wheelchairs can get in, and so on and so forth. So, it is not a cheap
thing. As we talked about it today Brian did bring up that you know is there some way that we could
make it look more kind of like it fits in the area? Brian is going to talk with Jake, the Highway
Superintendent. He is responsible for this, and we don't promise but we will see what we can do.
NANCY SAWASTYNOWICZ: Because they could put the cinder block building, and maybe just put
some kind of a nice little wooden thing around it, and they do get a good amount of beach charges
from the people from out of town, so it should add up for the little bit of extra cost to make it look
halfway decent. ! mean that cinder block things have got to go.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: The first line of block we are going to have the whole Civic Association
up here, we don't want that.
NANCY SAWASTYNOWICZ: Thank you.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Anyone else like to address the Town Board in relation to any of the
resolutions on the agenda? (No response.) If not, we will continue with the passing of the resolutions.
Number 98?
#98
Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs Town Clerk
Elizabeth Neville to advertise for bids to furnish all labor~ materials and equipment as required
for the seeding of a sports playing field at Peconic Lane Park, Peconic, New York in accordance
with the plans and specifications prepared by Town Engineer James Richter.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli,
Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#99
Moved by Councilman Richter, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs Town Clerk
Elizabeth Neville to advertise for bids to construct a restroom/storage building at Peconic Lane
Park~ Peconic, New York, in accordance with the plans and specifications prepared by Town Engineer
James Richer.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli,
Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#100
Moved by Councilman Murphy, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
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RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs Town Clerk
Elizabeth Neville to advertise for bids to construct a restroom facility at New Suffolk Beach~ in
accordance with the plans and specifications prepared by James Richter.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli,
Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#101
Moved by Councilman Richter, seconded by Councilman Romanelli, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs Town Clerk
Elizabeth Neville to advertise for bids for the purchase of Two {2} Light Duty 2001 Dump Trucks
for the Southold Town Highway Department.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli,
Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#102
Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs Town Clerk
Elizabeth Neville to advertise for bids for the purchase of one {1} new hydraulic mower for the
Department of Public Works.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli,
Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#103
Moved by Councilman Murphy, seconded by Councilman Romanelli, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby RESCINDS RESOLUTION NO.
13 adopted on September 12, 2000 granting permission for Building Inspector Bruno Semon to attend
mandatory_ New York State training at Montour Falls, New York, due to the same training now being
offered at Stony Brook, New York.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli,
Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#104
Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants permission to Bruno
Semom Building Inspector to attend mandatory New York State Building Inspector training at
Stony Brook University, Stony Brook, New York, as follows:
COURSES OFFERED AT SUNY STONY BROOK
40-468 INTRODUCTION TO CODE ENFORCEMENT PRACTICES
February 6, 7, 8, 2001; 8 a.m. - 5 p.m.
41-0367 INSPECTION OF EXISTING STRUCTURES
February 27, 28, March 1, 2001; 8 a.m. - 5 p.m.
42-358 LOW RISE RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION
March 20, 21, 22, 2001; 8 a.m. - 5 p.m.
43-337 GENERAL BUILDING CONSTRUCTION
May 8, 9, 10, 2001; 8 a.m. - 5 p.m.
44-343 ADMINISTRATION AND ENFORCEMENT
May 30, 31, June 1, 2001; 8 a.m. - 5 p.m.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli,
Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#105
Moved by Councilman Richter, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby AMENDS RESOLUTION NO.
21 adopted at the January 2, 2001 Organizational Meeting to appoint Dr. Richard Olcott~
Superintendent of New Suffolk Common School~ as Attendance Officer, to replace Dr. Edward
Broderick who is no longer with the school district.
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Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli,
Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#106
Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Romanelli, it was
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Southold wishes to purchase the development
rights in the agricultural lands of a certain parcel of property of agricultural lands owned by
Reynold Blum~ said property is identified as SCTM #1000-75-5-1. The development rights
easement comprises approximately 11.98 acres of the 14.81 acre farm. The exact area of the
development rights easement is to be determined by a town provided survey, acceptable to the Land
Preservation Committee prior to the contract closing. The purchase price is $13,500.00 (thirteen
thousand five hundred dollars) per acre pursuant to the provisions of Chapter 25 (Agricultural Lands
Preservation) and/or Chapter 6 (2% Community Preservation Fund) of the Code of the Town of
Southold; and be it
RESOLVED by the Town Board of the Town of Southold that this action be classified as an
Unlisted Action pursuant to the SEQRA Rules and Regulations~ 6 NYCRR 617.1 et. Seq4 be it
further
RESOLVED by the Town Board of the Town of Southold that the Town of Southold is the
only involved agency pursuant to SEQRA Rules and Regulations; be it further
RESOLVED by the Town Board of the Town of Southold that the Short Environmental Form
prepared for this project is accepted and attached hereto; be it further
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby finds no significant impact
on the environment and declares a negative declaration pursuant to SEQRA Rules and
Regulations for this action.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli,
Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Number 107, appointing a Senior Justice Court Clerk, is being held.
#108
Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Councilman Richter, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grant permission to Carol Betty,
Supervisor, Adult Day Care, Southold Town Human Services, to attend a five day training program
at the Consortium of New York Geriatric Education Center at New York University on
February 5-% 2001. Expenses for tuition and books shall be an expense of the Southold Town Senior
Services budget, expenses for travel and accommodations shall be the responsibility of the attendee.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli,
Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#109
Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Romanelli, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the General Fund
Whole Town 2001 budget as follows:
TO:
Revenues
A.2705.40
Gifts & Donations
Other Donations
$ 3,303.15
Appropriations
A.3120.2.500.250 Police, Equipment, Defilbulators $ 3,303.15
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli,
Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#110
Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and
directs Supervisor Jean W. Cochran to execute an agreement with Bridgehampton
National Bank for the Bank's PC Link product; said agreement subject to the approval of the Town
Attorney.
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Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter,
Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli,
#111
Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Romanelli, it was
WHEREAS M/V RACEPO1NT must be periodically drydocked to allow for inspection of her
underwater body and outboard fittings; now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants permission to the Board of
Commissioners of the Fishers Island Ferry District to advertise for bids for the drvdocking of the
M/V RACEPOINT and accomplishing of work thereon in accordance with specifications.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli,
Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#112
Moved by Councilman Richter, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs Supervisor
Jean W. Cochran to execute a contract for services between the Town of Southold and the Family
Service League of Suffolk~ as part of the Town of Southold Youth Services Program for 2001,
subject to the approval of the Town Attorney.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli,
Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#113
Moved by Councilman Murphy, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs Supervisor
Jean W. Cochran to execute an agreement between the Town of Southold and the Suffolk County
Marine Environmental Learning Center for implementation of the 2001 Town of Southold
Shellfish Program at Cedar Beach~ Southold, subject to the approval of the Town Attorney.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli,
Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#114
Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Richter, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs Supervisor
Jean W. Cochran to execute a contract for services between the Town of Southold and the County of
Suffolk, as past of the Town of Southold Youth Services for 2001, subject to the approval of the
Town Attorney.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli,
Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#115
Moved by Councilman Murphy, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
WHEREAS it has been presented to the Town Board of the Town of Southold, Suffolk County, New York, on the
BOth day of January, 2001 a Local Law entitled "A Local Law in relation to Parks, open spaces,
school sites and natural features, Chapter Al06, Article lll, Subdivision of Land, of the Code of
the Town of Southold" and, now therefore be it
RESOLVED the Town Board of the Town of Southold Hall, and hereby sets
7:32 p. m. Tuesday, February 13, 2001, as the time and place for a public hearing at which time all
interested persons will be heard, on the aforesaid Local Law at the Southold Town Hall, 53095 Main
Road, Southold, New York
The proposed "A Local Law in relation to Parks, open spaces, school sites and natural
features, Chapter Al06, Article lll, Subdivision of Land" which includes the following:
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LOCAL LAW NO. 2001
A Local Law in relation to Parks, open spaces, school sites and natural features, Chapter Al06,
Article III, Subdivision of Land
BE IT ENACTED by the Town Board of the Town of Southold, as follows:
Chapter Al06 (Subdivision of Land) of the Code of the Town of Southold is hereby amended as
follows:
Section A106-38. Parks, open spaces, school sites and natural features is amended as follows:
E. Alternate procedure: money in lieu of land.
(3) The amount to be deposited with the Town Board shall be twa five thousand
d~,ll~r~ ~'~ cmc~ ~
...... ~,~-, .... j ($5,000) per lot for each vacant lot in the subdivision. For the purpose of this
section, a "vacant lot" shall be construed as a lot that does not contain an existing residential
structure at the time the subdivision receives final approval. In a subdivision containing lots
designated as affordable pursuant to the town's affordable housing code, those lots so
designated shall be exempt from this computation. [Amended 5-22-1990]
Section 2. Effective Date.
This local law shall become effective upon filing with the Secretary of State.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli,
Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#116
Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Councilman Richter, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the resignation of Laura
DeMaria from her position as part-time minibus for the Nutrition Program at the Human Resource
Center, effective January 26, 2001.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli,
Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#117
Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the 2000 Community
Preservation Fund as follows:
To:
Revenues:
H3.1189.10 2% Land Transfer Taxes
Appropriations:
H3.8660.2.600.100 Land Acquisitions
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter,
Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
$410,000.00
$410,000.00
Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli,
#118
Moved by Councilman Murphy, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the General Fund
Whole Town 2000 budget as follows:
To:
A. 1010.1.200.100
A. 1010.4.400.300
A. 1010.4.500.800
A. 1010.4.600.200
A. 1010.4.600.725
Appropri~ions
A. 1990.4.100.100
Town Board, Part Time Employees
Land Preservation Secretary
Town Board, Contractual Expense
Printing
Town Board, Contractual Expense
Appraisals
Town Board, Contractual Expense
Meetings
Town Board, Contractual Expense
Land Preservation Committee
Contingent
Unallocated Contingencies
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter,
Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran.
$ 3,850.00
50.00
7,600.00
750.00
6,900.00
$19,150.00
Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli,
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This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#119
Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Councilman Richter, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the 2000 Employee
Health Plan budget as follows:
To:
Revenues:
MS.2680.00 Insurance Recoveries
Appropriations:
MS. 9060.8.000.000 Medical Benefits
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter,
Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
$ 230,000.00
$ 230,000.00
Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli,
#120
Moved by Councilman Richter, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the East- West
Greenport Fire Protection District 2000 budget as follows:
To:
Revenues:
SF.2401.00
To:
Appropriations
SF. 3410.4.400.200 Hydrant Rentals
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter,
Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
$175.00
Interest & Earnings
$175.00
Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli,
#121
Moved by Councilman Richter, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs Town Clerk
Elizabeth Neville to advertise for the following positions at the Southold Town Human Services
Center:
One (1) part-time Food Service Worker at $8.88 per hour for 17 lA hours per week or less
One (1) part-time Minibus Driver at $8.88 per hour for 17 lA hours per week or less
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli,
Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#122
Moved by Councilman Murphy, seconded by Councilman Romanelli, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board hereby modifies to the 2000 Solid Waste District
bud;~et as follows:
Amount
$ 767.10
$107.12
$ 5,930.34
$17.83
$ 575.00
$12.64
$ 2,686.47
$ 529.00
To
Administration -Regular Earnings
(SR 1490.1.100.100)
Full-Time Employees -Vacation Earnings
(SR 8160.1.100.300)
Part-Time Regular Earnings
(SR 8160.1.200.100)
Garage and Shop Equip.
(SR 8160.2.500.200)
Misc. Equip. Maintenance
(SR 8160.4.100.600)
Maint/Supply- Trailer Fleet
(SR 8160.4.100.640)
Engineering
(SR 8160.4.400.1 00)
Scrap Tire Removal
(SR 8160.4.400.815)
Fl'om
Administration- Overtime Earnings
(SR 1490.1.100.200)
Full-Time Empl. -Overtime Earnings
(SR 8160.1.100.200)
Full- Time Regular Earnings
(SR 8160.1.100.100)
Misc. Sanitation Equipment
(SR 8160.2.500.600)
Maint. -Mack Tractor
(SR 8160.4.100.590)
Maint. -Mack Tractor
(SR 8160.4.100.590)
Building Maintenance
(SR 8160.4.400.200)
Building Maintenance
(SR 8160.4.400.200)
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$ 31,165.99 MSW Removal Full Time Regular Earnings
(SR 8160.4.400.805) (SR 8160.1.100.100)
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli,
Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#123
Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Richter, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold directs and authorizes Supervisor Cochran
to execute a sub-license agreement with the North Fork Audubon Society for the use of office space at
Inlet Pond Park.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli,
Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#124
Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Romanelli, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the 2000 Fishers Island
Sewer District budget as follows:
TO:
Revenues:
S S2.5990.00 Appropriated Fund Balance $ 2,000.00
Appropriations
SS2.1440.4.000.000 Engineer, C.E. $1,000.90
SS2.8160.4.000.000 Sewage Treatment, C.E. 1,000.00
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli,
Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#125
Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold directs and authorizes Supervisor Cochran
to execute a sub-license agreement with the Long Island Wine Council for the use of office space
at Inlet Pond Park.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli,
Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#126
Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Richter, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the General Fund
Whole Town 2000 budget as follows:
To:
A.1410.1.100.100 Town Clerk~ Full-Time Employees $3~041.00
From:
A. 1410.4.400.600 Town Clerk, Equipment & Repairs $1,041.00
A. 1410.1.100.200 Town Clerk, Overtime $2,000.00
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli,
Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#127
Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Romanelli, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the General Fund
Whole Town 2000 budget as follows:
To:
A.1410.1.100.100 Town Clerk~ Full-Time Employees $3~041.00
From:
A. 1410.4.400.600 Town Clerk, Equipment & Repairs $1,041.00
A. 1410.1.100.200 Town Clerk, Overtime $2,000.00
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli,
Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran.
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This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#128
Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Councilman Murphy, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the General Fund
Whole Town 2000 budget as follows:
To:
Town Clerk, Part-Time Employees, Regular Earnings $3,732.00
A. 1410.1.200.100
From:
A. 1410.2.100.300 Town Clerk,
A. 1410.2.200.200 Town Clerk,
A. 1410.2.200.500 Town Clerk,
A1410.4.100.100 Town Clerk,
A1410.4.100.125 Town Clerk,
A1410.4.100.150 Town Clerk,
A1410.4.100.550 Town Clerk,
A1410.4.400.600 Town Clerk,
Appropriations:
A. 1990.4.100.100
Equipment, Furniture & Furnishings, Chairs
Tape Recorders
Computer Equipment
Supplies & Materials, Office Supplies
Law Books
Pre-printed forms, permits
Equipment Parts/Supplies
Contracted Services
Contingent
Unallocated Contingencies
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter,
Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
134 00
374 00
74
782 83
4030
732 00
85 43
7520
1,507.50
Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli,
#129
Moved by Councilman Richter, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED by the Town Board of the Town of Southold that the environmental consulting firm of
Nelsom Pope and Voorhis~ LLC is retained, pursuant to the terms of their proposal dated January 29,
2001, for the purpose of conducting SEQRA review for the Solid Waste District with respect to
composting and land acquisition.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli,
Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: We are going to hold #130, retaining services for the purpose of
conducting SEQRA review on proposed transfer station.
#131
Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Romanelli, it was
WHEREAS, Chapter 305 of the Laws of 1984 of the State of New York amended New York
State Property Tax Law 485-b to allow, inter alia, the Suffolk County Legislature to adopt a resolution
allowing Targeted Business Investment Real Property Tax Exemptions; and
WHEREAS, Suffolk County Legislature adopted Resolution NO.330-1999 which in turn
adopted a Targeted Business Investment Real Property Tax Exemption in accordance with Ch. 305 of
the Laws of 1994 of New York State; and
WHEREAS, Resolution No. 330-1999 and the local law adopted pursuant thereto provided
that a town could, by resolution, determine that such exemption shall not be applicable to such town
tax and ad valorem levies and "opt out" of the Targeted Business Investment Real Property Tax
Exemption; and
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Southold is desirous of opting out of the
Targeted Business Real Property Tax Exemption Program authorized by Ch. 305 of the Suffolk
County Legislature; and
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold
has determined that no Targeted Business Real Property Tax Exemptions pursuant to Ch. 305 of the
Laws of 1984 and Resolution No.330-1999 of the Suffolk County Legislature shall be applicable to the
Town of Southold's taxes and/or ad valorem levies; and be it
FURTHER RESOLVED, that copies of this resolution shall be distributed to the Suffolk
County Department of Economic Development.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli,
Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
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#132
Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Councilman Richter, it was
RESOLVED that pursuant to Section 64(1-a) of the Town Law, a petty cash fund is hereby
established in the following amount for the following individual:
Town Attorney Gregory Yakaboski $ 250.00
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli,
Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#133
Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Richter, it was
WHEREAS there has been presented to the Town Board of the Town of Southold, on the BOth
day of January, 2001, "A Local Law in Relation to Exemption for Disabled Persons with Limited
Income"; therefore be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold will hold a public hearing on the
aforesaid Local Law at the Southold Town Hall, 53095 Main Road, Southold, New York, and hereby
sets 7:30 P.M., Tuesday, February 13, 2001, as the time and place for a public hearing at which time
all interested persons will be heard.
LOCAL LAW NO. OF 2001
A Local Law in Relation to Amending Chapter 85, Section 9, Article IV, entitled
"Exemption for Disabled Persons With Limited Income ]Adopted 5-12-98 by Local Law No.7-
1998] of the Code of the Town of Southold.
BE IT ENACTED by the Town Board of the Town of Southold as follows:
I. ARTICLE IV, Exemption for Disabled Persons With Limited Income [Adopted 5-12- 1998 by L.L.
No.7-1998]
{} 85-9. Exemption granted.
A. Real property owned by a person with disabilities whose income is limited by such disabilities,
and used as the legal residence of such person, shall be entitled to a partial exemption from taxation to
the extent of 50% of assessed valuation.
B. To be eligible for the exemption authorized by such {} 459-c and implemented by this article,
the maximum income of such person shall not exceed~,,~,~,,,,~ ~r~r~ 20,500. Any such person having a
higher income shall be eligible for exemption in accordance with the following schedule:
Percentage Assessed
Valuation Exempt
Annual Income From Taxation
% off for an income up to $28,900 (See below sliding scale)
Income %
Up to $20,499. 50%
$20,500. to $21,499. 45%
$21,500. to $22,499. 40%
$22,500. to $23,499. 35%
$23,500. to $24,399. 30%
$24,400. to $25,299. 25%
$25,300. to $26,199. 20%
$26,200. to $27,099. 15%
$27,100. to $27,999. 10%
$28,000. to $28,899. 5%
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman
Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
Murphy, Councilman Romanelli,
#134
Moved by Councilman Murphy, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
WHEREAS the Town of Southold is required to perform certain capping and closure of its landfill, as
per a consent order; and
WHEREAS the Town of Southold and the Solid Waste District need to acquire properties for landfill
capping and closure and land acquisition for composting and other related Solid Waste District
activities;
WHEREAS Harvey Besunder, Esq. was retained for the purpose of doing all legal work in relation to
the acquisition of properties required for landfill capping and closure and other related purposes and
Harvey Besunder has withdrawn as counsel; now be it
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RESOLVED that Frank A. Isler~ Esq. is retained for the purpose of doing all legal work in work
in relation to the acquisition of properties required for landfill capping and closure and land
acquisition for composting and other related Solid Waste District activities.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli,
Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Number 35 and 36 we will hold until after the hearings. The first hearing
is scheduled at 5:00 P.M., so we only have a couple of minutes, and then we will open that hearing.
Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Romanelli, it was
RESOLVED that this Town Board meeting be and hereby is recessed at 5:00 P.M. for the purpose of
holding a public hearing.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli,
Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
Meeting reconvened at 5:30 P.M.
#135
Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
WHEREAS the Town Board of the Town of Southold held a public hearing on the question of
the purchase of development rights of agricultural lands for a certain parcel of property owned by
Reynold Blum on BOth day of January of 2001, pursuant to the provisions of Chapter 25 and/or Chapter
6 (2% Community Preservation Fund) of the Town Code, at which time all interested parties were
given the opportunity to be heard; and
WHEREAS, the Town Board deems it in the public interest that the Town of Southold
purchase the Development Rights of these agricultural lands, now, therefore be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby elects to purchase the
development rights of a certain parcel of property of agricultural lands owned by Reynold Blum~
said property is identified as SCTM #1000-75-5-1. The development rights easement comprises
approximately 11.98 acres of the 14.81 acre farm. The exact area of the development rights easement is
to be determined by a town provided survey, acceptable to the Land Preservation Committee prior to
the contract closing. The purchase price is $13,500.00 (thirteen thousand five hundred dollars) per acre
pursuant to the provisions of Chapter 25 (Agricultural Lands Preservation) and/or Chapter 6 (2%
Community Preservation Fund) of the Code of the Town of Southold; and be it
FURTHER RESOLVED that the parcel is to be purchased either outright by the Town of
Southold, or acquired under the Suffolk County Preservation Partnership Program whereby Suffolk
County would appropriate an amount equal to 50% of the total cost of acquisition; or under the Suffolk
County Greenways Program whereby Suffolk County would appropriate an amount up to 70% of the
total cost of acquisition.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli,
Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#136
Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Murphy, it was
WHEREAS there has been presented to the Town Board of the Town of Southold, on the 16th
day of January, 2001, "A Local Law in Relation to Senior Citizen Exemption"; and
WHEREAS that the Town Board of the Town of Southold held a public hearing on the
aforesaid Local Law on Tuesday, January 30, 2001, at which time all interested persons will were
heard, now therefore be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold thereby enacts the following Local
Law:
LOCAL LAW NO. 2001
A Local Law in Relation to Senior Citizen Exemption
BE IT ENACTED by the Town Board of the Town of Southold as follows:
1. Chapter 85 (Taxation) of the Code of the Town of Southold is hereby amended as
follows:
1. Section 85-1 (Partial Exemption for Senior Citizens) is amended as follows:
A. Amount of Exemption
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(1) Real property owned by one (1) or more persons, each of whom is sixty-
five (65) years of age or over, or real property owned by husband and wife,
one (1) of whom is sixty-five (65) years of age or over, shall be exempt
from town taxes to the extent provided, subject to the following income
limitations
Extent of Exemption
Income %
Up to $20,499. 50%
$20,500. to $21,499. 45%
$21,500. to $22,499. 40%
$22,500. to $23,499. 35%
$23,500. to $24,399. 30%
$24,400. to $25,299. 25%
$25,300. to $26,199. 20%
$26,200. to $27,099. 15%
$27,100. to $27,999. 10%
$28,000. to $28,899. 5%
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli,
Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
ED SIEGMANN: On behalf of the East End Seniors I want to thank you for increasing this again, and
for keeping it up to date what is being done by the County. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: You are welcome. That ends our planned resolutions. First I am going
to ask if there is anyone that wants to speak to the Town Board on any Town business excluding the
animal shelter? Just that if there is someone that wants to talk on something else, and then I will call on
John to give his report, and then anyone from the animal shelter. I think that is fair. Mr. Carlin?
FRANK CARL1N: I will if you will be kind enough to give me enough time. I would appreciate it,
because what I have to say tonight is very important. This is not on the animal shelter right now. I
would like to get things squared away once and for all in this town. I have been known sometimes in
the newspaper was called one time a gadfly. It doesn't matter. Who cares? Like President Truman
once said, you can't stand the heat just stay out of the kitchen. That doesn't bother me, but also I get
some good recommendations from people throughout the town about all my letters that I write. They
like to read them. When are you going to write another one? I am not blowing my horn up here,
believe me, but this must be done. When are you going to write another one, and the reason why I
think they like them is because I get right down to the point of something. I don't dance around the
bush, and I tell it like it is. All my career in writing letters I wrote over eighty of them already, not only
to the local newspapers, but to everybody throughout the nation. Acampora, Lavalle, Cuomo, Pataki, I
just wrote one recently to Senator Lavalle trying to get the HMO's and a better prescription plan for the
seniors out here in Suffolk County. I just wrote one to the North Fork Grumman CEO, in fact two of
them. I didn't like the medical plan that we got for the 2001. I wrote him a letter. Even wrote a letter to
the President of the United States, President Clinton, so I go all over, not just local. Like Marilyn
Goldstien said in 1991 Newsday, if he thinks something necessary he will fight for it. Now, when I get
done tonight I am going to let this Town Board be the judge if she is right or wrong. 1983, the Laurel
bridge in the curve. I wrote the letters to DOT way before that big accident ever happened there, but
when it happened when three people were killed there, a man, and a lady, and a little girl, I got on my
horse finally, and started to try to do something about it. Catherine Simcik heard me called me and
said, I am going to help you, Frank. I am going to get on it, so we developed (tape change) We only
had a week and a half to do it because DOT was here, and we gave them the petition of 3,000 people.
We worked as a team then. Everybody come together, the Long Island Railroad, Jack McDonald
raising the bridge, LILCO, Joe Sawicki was Assemblyman at that time, everybody, DOT, Hoffman
was in charge of DOT Safety in Hauppauge signs, and caution lights. I want to make this short. We all
came together as a team. We worked together as a team. We got out a petition of 3,000, and we got the
job done. I didn't have to do that. From 1978 to 1983 seventy-seven accidents occurred at that area
with seven people killed, and two accidents there were six killed at one time. I didn't have to get out
and do that campaigning, and do that. I could have said, the hell with it. Let somebody else do it, but I
didn't. You remember this one, Madam Supervisor, 1985 when he wanted to put an airport over on
Route 58, use up 140 acres of the people's property. This Town Board had a meeting that night, a
Town Board meeting, the people were lined out the door. They were lined out the door. I stood up here
with them, and I fought with them, because it was a special interest involved in that. Pilots wanted it.
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People didn't want it. It would have be noisy, and it wouldn't have been right for them. We fought for
it, and the Board dropped it. I didn't have to do that, but I did. In the 80's a woman called me up from
Cedar Avenue here in Southold. She had a problem with a drain. It was low there. Everytime it would
rain the water would run up to her front door. She called me up, Mr. Carlin, what can I do? I said,
well, take a picture of it. You probably remember this, too, Madam Supervisor. Take a picture of it,
and we will go to Town Board see what we can do. Come to the Town Board, showed them the
picture, a week later Ray Dean was down there digging holes, and put a drain in for her. I didn't have
to do that. It was none of my business. Now, one of the toughest battles I had, the McDonald issue. We
had two public meetings in 1990, fifty, sixty people here. I stood up here with one other person with
me to defend McDonalds. He is no longer with us. He owned a nursery over there on Route 58. He was
the only one that spoke with me on it, but I believed in what I was fighting for, and I fought for them.
In 1985 in August they opened up, although they don't have four by five-foot hole in the wall, but they
still opened up, and I will guarantee you something else. When you dig by McDonalds on a Sunday
afternoon in the summertime you don't see cars parked along the side of the road like you do in
Peconic on a Sunday afternoon with people running around, and the safety hazard. You know what I
am talking about here. If you have been around you know what I am talking about here on Sunday
afternoon.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: I believe we do, yes.
FRANK CARL1N: Okay. You don't see that with McDonalds. I control the streetlights in my area. I
see a street light out I will call up Ray Jacobs, and he is glad that I call him up, because he don't know
the lights are out. Incidentally talk about Ray Jacobs, we get along very well together. I like him. I
have no problem with Ray Jacobs. This is only a few things that I am mentioning here. I want to say
another thing. I will show you how this worked years back. In 1968 we had a problem where we
wanted a couple of streetlights put up in an area, because we thought it would improve our safety. At
that time Judge Tuthill was on Board in 1968. So, I call him up on the phone. I said, Judge, if you
could look at it we might need a street light in this area. Let me look at it, Frank, and I will check it
out. A couple of days later he called me back, and lo and behold, what he said to me was, Frank, we
looked the area over, we are not only going to give you one, we are going to give three street lights. If
that ain't enough you call me back, and we will put more. See that is the why we operate those days.
You operated a lot of things like that on the phone, none of these public hearings, none of these
resolutions. You got things done like that on the phone. Here's another important thing, and this is very
important. Since they raised the bridge in Laurel we had a lot of problems with eighteen wheelers
stopping in front of my house, don't know if they should go under the bridge or not, because they are
confused. They don't know the height of the bridge. So, what does Frank do? I had been doing it since
1987. IfI am home, and it could be snowing, snowing, watching TV, I run out there, and the first thing
comes out of my mouth is, are you more the 13'6", because that is the State law, and if they tell me, no,
I tell them go ahead, and boy, they are thankful as hell about it, because a lot of them are from out of
state. I don't have to do that. I could sit there and watch TV. I want to tell you another thing, and what I
am trying to say here is, I want to end it up, but I want to come back for two more things later on.
Here's a good one on this bridge. My wife and I just last October came home from Riverhead from
shopping, it was in the evening, and there was a little bit of fog. Lo and behold, in front of my house
was a trailer loaded with brand new cars, must have been twelve brand new cars. The guy didn't know
what to do. Imagine trying to back up on a two-lane highway that night? I get out of the truck I walk
over to him. I said, what's your problem? He said, I don't know, man, I don't know, I can't go. I said,
how tall are you? He said, 13'6". I said, go ahead. Man, that man was happy. Imagine trying to back
up an eighteen wheeler with twelve cars on it on a two-lane highway in some fog? But, anyway to
wind this up, and try to prove a point here, I am not blowing my horn, but I find it necessary to do this.
When I was on the bridge issue I communicated a lot with Joe Sawicki, who was Assemblyman at that
time, and I remember one day we are talking about when the caution lights were going to go up, and
before he finished talking to me, and this was back in '83, he said to me, Mr. Carlin, there should be
more like you in Southold Town who cares about what is going on throughout the town. Remember
that, Joe? Thank you.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Frank, you have been a good neighbor for many years. I wish there were
more people like you. You certainly can make a lot more happen when you sit down around the table
and talk about things, but I will call your best friend, Jake, and get the phone number from the State,
and see if we can put a sign up there that is legible enough for people to see. There is no sign there
designating. We don't want you running out in the middle of the night.
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FRANK CARL1N: I will tell you one thing. What I was hoping to see, Madam Supervisor, I hate to
say this, but instead of that North Fork sign it would have been sign up there staying the bridge
clearance it would have been a lot more better, than having a North Fork Bank sign up there.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: I just recently checked to see as far as that North Fork Bank sign is
concerned, and it is put there by the Metropolitan Railroad. So, ! gave it to the Transportation
Committee. We'll try.
JIM BITSES: Statements made by Frank, the work he has been doing technically speaking is the work
that an ombudsman would be doing. In this town we do not have an ombudsman, except the volunteer,
and a few other volunteers, and in all seriousness ! am going to suggest to this Board then an
ombudsman, a paid position, be appointed, and that the first appointee be Frank Carlin, who comes to
the position with considerable experience, and a good heart, which an ombudsman needs. Another side
benefit to the Board would be that the ombudsman would then become the political lighting rod in this
town taking part of the load off your shoulders. If you have problems you go to the ombudsman, and
then the ombudsman comes before the Board, and makes his suggestions, and he does it in a formal
manner with formal reports, and a formal salary to go with it. ! think that is a darn good idea. Thank
you.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Thank you, Jim. This is what I do all day long. Anyone else like to
address the Town Board? Any business other than the animal shelter? (no response) If not, John, may
! call on you for your report?
COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: Absolutely. As we all know we said the end of this month is our
deadline. ! have a whole bunch of site plans people can take afterwards, and peruse, look at, maybe
you will have some suggestions, which we are open to, but we came up with a site plan. We think it
addresses all the issues that the League brought up. We end up with a total of 39 kennels. Three of
those 39 being separate isolation kennels with access from the outdoors so they don't have to go
through the general population. A grooming room, an examination room, all new heating system, all
new mechanical, restrooms, food prep, we addressed the drainage issue, contouring the floors. So, it is
a combination of renovation of the existing one structure that we talked about and the addition, and the
addition would be attached to that one structure, so when essence when you are done all your kennel
operation will be under one roof with a common hallway, a common area. This site plan also addresses
some parking. We are going to change the entrance to the parking. ! think that is it. ! really do believe
we hit every issue that was brought up by the League at every meeting. Any questions? ! have about
twenty-five copies here, so everyone is free to take one. Therese, you can come and take one right now
if you like.
THERESE MCG1NNESS: ! just have a question for you, Mr. Romanelli. When the League sat down
with the Town Board, ! believe in good faith, at the last meeting that we had which ! believe was on
January 3rd, I would like to see the report, but at that time you stated here that Mr. Richter was going to
do a report, and completion of this report is a crucial step. You also said that once Mr. Richter's report
is in hand the committee will meet to review? When do you plan to have that committee meeting? If
you look on the documents that you put out before, the four page documents on January 3rd from that
meeting it stated very clearly that once you had Mr. Richter's report in hand that the committee would
then meet to review this report, and ! was just questioning the last committee meeting that we had, at
that last committee meeting you had stated that the following week we would meet. Are you planning
to hold any committees meetings?
COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: I would like this site plan to get out in everyone's hands, and
everyone look at it. It has been back and forth, myself, Craig, and Engineer Jamie Richter must have
made twelve different layouts, twelve different plans of trying to fit things in to a footprint that was
schematic to meet the needs and the requests from the League. Once it gets out, once you look at it, !
would like everyone to take a look at it, and we will have a meeting after you have a chance to digest
it. There might be some suggestions. We think we thought of everything. We think we answered all the
questions. Maybe not, but ! think we are pretty damn close. We are closer now than we ever were
before.
THERESE MCG1NNESS: Let me just ask you this question. In this report was this all done in-house?
Was this site plan evaluation done with the help of any engineering firms, or was this done strictly in-
house by you?
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COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: This was done in-house using our Town Engineer. We used some
information we got from the Town of Brookhaven, who is in the process of bidding out for a new
facility. We took some information from there, but overall design came between Craig, myself and
Jamie.
THERESE MCG1NNESS: So, there is no private engineering firm then involved in this process?
COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: No. Not on the tail end. No.
THERESE MCG1NNESS: It states clearly here in this document that was submitted to the committee
that a private engineering firm will be assisting the town, so basically there was no engineering firm.
COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: H2M, early on in the process donated some time. They were the ones
that gave us the information on Brookhaven's work.
THERESE MCG1NNESS: So, H2M has helped you put this together?
COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: The final layout of the facility was done by ourselves, and listening
to your needs, and the request for the needs, you know about the isolation room.
THERESE MCG1NNESS: But you did get the professional advice from H2M?
COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: Absolutely. Early on, back early January.
THERESE MCG1NNESS: So, you do plan to set up another committee meeting?
COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: ! would like everyone who has been here on a weekly basis and who
has been attending with open eyes and intent towards this project, ! would like you all to look at it. !
would like you all to take it home. What ! would really like is some written comments, good, bad,
indifferent, sent to the Town Hall. Make them the attention to me. Once ! get some comments back
then we set up a meeting to evaluate the comments.
THERESE MCG1NNESS: Excuse me. ! don't quite understand that. You are asking for comments
from the committee? At the last meeting you suggested that we would met the following week to
review plans for the new facility, so you are suggesting now written comments? ! don't quite
understand.
COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: That's correct.
THERESE MCG1NNESS: So, you are not suggesting another committee meeting with the North Fork
Animal League?
COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: No. ! think ! just said, and ! said, ! would like everyone to get out
there, ! would like the committee to comment, and the general public.
THERESE MCG1NNESS: But, Mr. Romanelli, beyond the comment at our last committee meetings
you suggested that we would meet the following week. Are you suggesting that the League meet as a
committee with the Town Board members ad hoc committee? When would you like to hold that
meeting with the committee?
COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: Let's let these circulate. Let's get some comments back, and then we
will set a date for that meeting. Yes, we do need to have one more meeting.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: ! would say about two weeks. Not just the dog facility committee, but
anyone that has had an input. ! think the committee has done a pretty good job, but see if they made
shortfalls.
COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: There were people every week that weren't on the Board of Directors
who have made comments, and who have made questions, and you know what? ! know they are not
on the Board, ! know they are not members of the committee, but ! would not mind hearing their
comments, having them review the plan. We think it is pretty good. We are pretty confident. We feel
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comfortable with it. I wouldn't mind getting comments from people outside the committee, because
they might bring something forward.
THERESE MCGINNESS: I think what is most important, Mr. Romanelli is to finish the process. I
think what is most important is to finish the process with the North Fork Animal Welfare League as
you so stated at our last committee meeting, that we would meet again, and discuss any plans. So, what
I am asking you now is can set a date for the next committee meeting, because we have not heard from
you in three weeks.
COUNCILMAN RICHTER: Therese, can I just jump in here a little bit? I think with the semantics
that we have, the plans, the site plans, in taking all the input that we have gotten from North Fork
Animal Welfare League, ! think these address, as John has said, all the needs. If John would like to get
this out to the public, so you can all look at what we have here, so that you can see this, and then we
would also like written comments to come back. Upon whatever comes back in written comments !
think at that time, ! don't believe we need to set an exact time and date today. ! would like to see the
comments come back, what they are first, and then we can sit down, because we need to sit down,
because when we proceed forward we need to have time lines set how we are going to go about the
construction, and this happens to be the Town's responsibility but we need to do it in conjunction with
the North Fork Animal Welfare League for housing of dogs and so forth. So, ! think what we are doing
is trying to get this information out to you, let everyone digest it. Please, written are best, because we
put them in our file, we can always have something to refer to.
THERESE MCGINNESS: Are you asking from written comments from the North Fork Animal
Welfare Leagues, or are you asking for written comments from the public?
COUNCILMAN RICHTER: From anyone that would like to pick this up. Both. Whoever.
THERESE MCG1NNESS: Let me just ask you another quick question. In preparation on your site
plans do you plan to use a bidding process, or would you be doing most of the work in-house with
Town employees?
COUNCILMAN RICHTER: In the best case scenario, and that hasn't been finalized yet, so you are
going to take an opinion from me, and not necessarily a finalized way that we want to do this. ! think
you are going to need a combination, but there is no way this facility could be done, ! believe, by
Town employees, not currently on the staff. Some work will, but ! don't think all of it can be. But, !
think this is the best process to go through, and the best way to go.
THERESE MCG1NNESS: So, you will be submitting those copies to the public?
COUNCILMAN RICHTER: Yes.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: I would like to say we are passing out this site plan of the facility, but we
would prefer that you look at it, talk amongst yourselves, take it home, and in writing, please, any
comments, suggestions, you may have. ! think verbally we have beat this thing to death, so lets move
and put in writing what your reaction is, and then we will go from there.
THERESE MCGINNESS: Can you set a date for public comments on this?
COUNCILMAN RICHTER: Why don't we do two weeks?
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Whatever we get in two weeks. So, any comments you have to make,
please, see that the Town Board receives them within the two-week period. Any other comments?
JIM BITSES: While watching the program last week ! realized that there is not understanding, but an
un-understanding. Mr. Romanelli pointed out that concrete gets stronger and harder as time passes,
which is true. What is also true is that is if you miscast the concrete, if you make a mistake in the
casting, in the forming of the concrete, that mistake is buried and stays with the concrete forever as it
hardens. Now about 40 or 50 years ago the Town decided that they needed an animal prison, so they
built the shelter with cells designed to keep animals for seven days, and then to execute them. The size
of the shelter cells, the solitary confinement cells, they were designed for that, so that one dog could
not see the other dog, could hear it, could smell it, could not see. In other words, cast into the concrete
are grievous errors, not errors at that time, because what they wanted was a prison to hold animals for
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seven days in solitary confinement, and then if no one had come forward with the requisite fee, execute
them. For that purpose the shelter is an admirable building, and unfortunately the concrete in it today
embodies those faults, and will always embody those faults. Not only will it embody those faults, but it
will continue to do damage, and when ! say damage, a couple of months ago we brought in what
amounts to an animal behaviorist, a psychiatrist, and of course, the veterinarian because three or four
of the animals in the shelter were stircrazy. It happens to humans in solitary confinement in our
estimable prisons in this country, and they decided that these animals were totally insane, and hopeless,
and they were a definite menace to the staff, and of course they were unadoptable. Unadoptable, so
what happened? They had to be put away, executed, assassinated. Use any word you want. They had to
be killed, and the killing was a direct result of the errors cast into the concrete of the existing buildings,
and as result of the fact also that they are kept for long periods of time out of sight of each other, just as
human being go stircrazy and become insane, and become a threat in the prison population, and give
rise to all sorts of annualize, murders, and so on, in the prison population, arising from no cause. The
same thing happens to dogs only more so, because they are far more sensitive to commune. In any
event, so when you speak and we speak of repairs you can't repair fifty, sixty-year-old concrete
because the dimensions are built into the concrete itself. They are beyond repair. Mr. Romanelli is
correct, a stronger building, stronger concrete, but the error is cast in just as Mahaulen cast errors into
his dam above Los Angeles fifty, sixty years ago, and eventually the dam collapsed. The dam could not
be repaired, because the errors were inherent in the structure itself, in the concrete of the structure
itself. Now apparently while watching the program that you didn't understand that, and the public
doesn't understand that, and assume everybody realize what ! was thinking, but they weren't. The
errors, the inability, the shortcomings of the structure are inherent in the structure, and there is only one
solution, truly one solution. Of course, you know what the solution is. It has to be ripped out, but while
it is in use on another site the new structure has to built in accordance with site plans, with logical
planning of other structures of the same type all over the country, and you will notice in those other
structures that the probabilities are that the demarcations of the pens, not only are variable, but they are
clear sighted. You can see through them like chain link or something of that sort. So, if they animals
have some communion as humans necessarily need communion. So, my point here is that we have all
been talking around the circle and have missed this essential point. We wish to heck that these
buildings could be renovated, and you are very logical in assuming, hey, why not renovate the existing
buildings? Unfortunately the existing buildings are not worth renovating just as much as trying to use a
pickup truck to fly. There are no wings. It will never fly. No matter how much renovation you do it
will never fly, or take a little Sissner, a single engine Sissner, and try to haul heavy logs with it. It will
never haul logs. It is built for flying. The structure form follows function. Form follows function, and
the function of these buildings is a prison, a solitary confinement prison, which has been driving
animals insane, as we saw a couple of months. We lost two very good members of the Board. They
were outraged that we were going to kill animals that were not sick. They were sick all right, and it
was structure that made them sick. So, not to take anymore of your time, my suggestion basically is
this is not subject to renovation or correction. Why? Because it is cast in concrete, very hard solid
concrete, fifty, sixty years old, which suited the purposes at that time, but do not suit the purposes at
the present time. So, ! fervently hope that you consider what ! have been saying about the very essence
of the shortcomings that we are grappling with, and put aside any thought of renovation, because that
is a no man's land. It is like renovating a Sissner to pull heavy logs, renovating a tack hammer to drive
a railroad spike. It can't be done, because form follows function, and a form is already frozen in the
concrete. Thank you for your time.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Jim, would you send a memo? Highlight your thoughts in a memo and
send it in. We are not going to debate this here. Get your comments, and then there will be a meeting.
STEVE GRUBER: Hi. My name is Steve Gruber and I am a resident of Greenport, and I am actually
going to read my comments. ! just stopped smoking three days ago, and there is no way ! could get up
here without reading. ! understand that Mr. Yakaboski has compared Riverhead Animal Control
facility with the Southold Animal Shelter, and wanted to just comment on that. Yes, Riverhead started
a spay, neuter program in March of 2000, and currently alters any animal going into a private home. It
does not alter the large percentage of its animals that go to other facilities or rescue groups. The North
Fork Animal Welfare League alters every animal that is adopted out, and subsidizes hundreds more
throughout the community each year. Citing understaffing, the Director of Riverhead Animal Control
expressed regret that they do not check any reference before adopting a dog. Anyone who walks
through the doors of the Riverhead's facility, including animals researchers, if they have $38., they can
have a dog. All of the animals adopted from Southold Animal Shelter go into private homes that have
been checked by the League. Over the past ten years the euthanasia rate of Southold Animal Shelter
has averaged 3% of the total intakes. All of these animals were either vicious or incurable ill.
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Riverhead's euthanasia rate has dropped by over 60% recently, but still remains at about 15% of the
total intakes. Some of these being killed for the sole crime of being homeless. Riverhead is home to
approximately 20% more people than the Town of Southold. Three times the number of dogs made
their way through Riverhead's facility than Southold's last year. According to the head of Riverhead
Animal Control this is a direct result of years of failing to address the problem of companion animal
over population in the Town of Riverhead. The North Fork Animal Welfare League has been working
diligently for thirty years to solve the problem for the Town of Southold. This year the Town of
Riverhead will spend only $12,000 less of taxpayers' money than the Town of Southold to provide
animal control. The amount provided by taxpayers for the Town of Riverhead's animal control will
increase by 20% this year with additional 20% being provided by a fund set up to take private
donations. Almost done. High numbers of animals coming into a facility is not an indication of success
in the animal control field, but the exact opposite. While Riverhead is striving to decrease their
numbers both of intakes, and euthanasia, they have long way to go to reach the success rate provided to
the Town of Southold by the North Fork Animal Welfare League. While encouragement is in order I
think Mr. Yakaboski needs to give the new group at Riverhead time to fully implement their new
policies, and see some results before jumping to the conclusion that they will product. Southold
Animal Shelter through the North Fork Animal Welfare League is considered the most progressive
animal shelter on Long Island, not only for spaying and neutering, but for humane education. Because
of the North Fork Animal Welfare League the children of the Town of Southold can grow up in a
community which embraces a humane ethic for companion animals. Never is a companion animal
killed in the Town of Southold for the sole crime of being homeless. As a resident and taxpayer of the
Town of Southold I will never accept anything less than the highest standards that have been set for
more than three decades by the North Fork Animal Welfare League. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: We agree. Thank you for your comments, and good luck with your
breaking the habit.
JUDY SEIBERT: I am a reference librarian and school librarian, so I can't help myself. I have
researched this. Okay? I am going to give it to her all my research. I wondered how much you
researched this. Did you go on line? Did you read these books about animal shelters? How much
research went into this thing that you are handing out now? That is my question. Have you researched?
COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: I didn't read that book you have up there.
JUDY SEIBERT: There are books in libraries, and you can go on line, and this one here says, the
animal shelter construction. Have you done that?
COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: I was in touch with Ag and Markets. I was on line with
Houndsquarters. I was on line with Morton Building that has line strictly for animal shelters. I was in
touch with H2H an engineering firm that is doing the Brookhaven Lab.
JUDY SEIBERT: You only mentioned that firm. That is why I am asking. Okay. Then you answered
my question.
COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: This has taken my research than I care to speak about.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: He has spent a lot of time.
MARILYN SAWASTYNOWICZ: Good evening. Marilyn Sawastynowicz from Cutchogue, head of
SOS, Save Our Shelter. Tonight I have 558 more signatures in support of a new shelter bringing the
total to 4,700, and I want to hand these in. I just want to touch on what Steve Gruber was mentioning
about the Riverhead facility, and how they operate with less monies than Southold. Let it be
understood Riverhead Shelter employs only two full-time staff, and two part-time on weekends, and
over 80% of their total expenditures goes to salaries. Southold Shelter employees six full-time staff,
two part-time on weekends, plus many volunteers which of course I am one of them. They have less
than 45% of the total expenditures goes to salaries at Southold. Riverhead Councilman Jim Lowe, the
liaison to the Riverhead Shelter stated that they have a huge disadvantage operating with only two
employees. Many states across the country are looking to get away from the poundmentality, and
introduce humane shelter ethics, such as the League's into their facilities. So, please, let the League
continue to do their outstanding work, so that other facilities can learn from them, and emulate them.
Thank you.
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SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Can you tell me again the percentage on what goes to salaries?
MARILYN SAWASTYNOWICZ: From Southold? Less than 45% of their total expenditures is for
salaries, and Riverhead they use over 80%, and Southampton is over 80%.
COUNCILMAN MURPHY: Would you have the figure for what goes for salaries in Southold?
MARILYN SAWASTYNOWICZ: Yes, ! could get that for you. Do you want a printout.
COUNCILMAN MURPHY: Just a total.
MARILYN SAWASTYNOWICZ: ! can get that total. Sure.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Anyone else like to address the Town Board before ! call on Mr. Carlin,
because then we are going to close it down. He is always last. Yes, ma'am?
CORRINE DONOPRIA: A brief question, what do we anticipate doing with the animals while the
construction is being done, John?
COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: Those are problems we are going to have to work out through the
stage of construction. Obviously it is going to have to done during the warm months, most of the work
is going to have to be done through the warmer months.
CORRINE DONOPRIA: Hopefully it won't be up to 100 degrees like it was one year.
COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: ! know the logistic problem. ! don't know the answer to that. ! am
hoping that working with the League we can come up with a solution for that, some temporary outdoor
pens. We are going to have to work on that. ! don't know the answer yet.
CORRINE DONOPRIA: Pray to God it is a cool summer. The other comment is the cement question.
Have you talked to a cement contractor or two out there to see what can be and can't be done?
COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: That's how we came up with some of these schematics that we have.
CORRINE DONOPRIA: As regard to the cement structure, and the stability of it.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Please, put your concerns on a piece of paper, and mail it in to John and
committee.
NANCY SAWASTYNOWICZ: Nancy Sawastynowicz, East Marion. On the plans it has nothing to
do with cesspools or plumbing.
COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: It is figured in for the bid. We didn't details where the cesspools are
going to be, but that is all part of the process.
NANCY SAWASTYNOWICZ: So, that will be the second step. Okay.
COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: That will be in the bid process, the specifications going out for bid
will be for new septic and drainage, new plumbing and heating, electrical, the route, the new addition
and the renovations of the old part.
NANCY SAWASTYNOWICZ: Can you believe all those petitions? Thank you.
MILDRED BOYCE: Do you still, John, figure that this is all going to be done for $100,0007
COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: That would be wonderful, but $100,000 ! don't see any of all that
happening. It has to go out for a bid process. We have to detail the bid. Our Town Engineer is going to
work on building up specs for a bid after the comments, but you know, $100,000 ! don't believe.
MILDRED BOYCE: Suppose it goes over $250,000 and approaches $300,000, what happens then,
especially with bids?
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COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: That is when we are going to have to do more in-house, work to have
more done in-house, and farm less of it out. So, we will have to play with the numbers and see how
they come in, and possibly rebid it. We did many projects within the town to see how we can, you
know, we will put it out, so the Town employees don't get involved in all of it. Sometimes it works that
way. Sometimes it doesn't, but that is how you rejuggle the estimates, and work with the numbers.
MILDRED BOYCE: It just seems all very iffy to me, and have an insecure feeling about a great deal
of this work being done to the standards to good shelter construction, and ! feel insecure about the
costs, and it doesn't seem pinned down to me, and ! feel very insecure about it. Although ! can see
there was a lot of hard work done.
COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: ! don't know what to do about your insecure feelings.
MILDRED BOYCE: ! will just carry them with me for now.
THERESE MCG1NNESS: Mr. Romanelli, ! have one suggestion possibly, that you might want to make
to Mr. Richter, to put in the details of the square footage, rather than overall square footage. ! mean,
you have to use your ruler, but there is no square footage in relation to the size of kennels in the new
facility that you are proposing, 1,500 square feet. What are the sizes of this kennel. ! mean this is just a
very general, would not really give information enough to comment on because it is way too general.
There is no square footage.
COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: There is square footage. ! believe the size of the kennels off the top
of my head were four by eight. We are going to Ag and Markets rules.
THERESE MCG1NNESS: Let me just explain something. Part of that problem, and let me just explain
something about Ag and Markets. The North Fork Animal Welfare League in contracting with
Southold operates a limited euthanasia facility. The Ag and Markets standards that you quote are
traditionally used for kill facilities. The longer you hold an animal in a kennel, and this was discussed
with Jamie Richter, that kennel would need more space, more square footage. In other words, it would
not meet the standards for a limited euthanasia facility. It is very different than what you are talking
about for Ag and Markets. Ag and Markets only compliance does not set the standards. They set bare
minimum requirements, so on this kennel size, Mr. Romanelli, ! would suggest that they would not
meet standards for a limited euthanasia facility, which on average would take 80 square feet a kennel
because we operate as a limited euthanasia. So, ! think that prior to anybody making comments on this
it is necessary to have the exact size of what you are talking about on this. Ag and Markets does not set
standards.
COUNCILMAN RICHTER: Can ! interrupt for a second? That is part of the comments. ! believe that
the kennel size is larger than the Ag and Markets that we are adhering to.
THERESE MCG1NNESS: But, looking at this it would not tell you. Looking at this it would not give
you that information.
COUNCILMAN RICHTER: ! agree with you there. ! think there is a scale on that also, so you can
scale it off.
THERESE MCG1NNESS: There is a scale, but for the average person who isn't using an architectural
ruler it does not give the information, and Ag and Markets, ! am going to repeat this again, Mr.
Romanelli.
COUNCILMAN RICHTER: We have already heard this. Why don't you use that as a comment list to
US.
THERESE MCG1NNESS: ! think we will, but my point is that what should be done on this is for the
square footage for the size, for people to make comments. This is way too general information that
don't think people make comments on.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Please put your comments in writing. John will get the square footage for
you, and then you can take the responsibility of sharing it with your committee.
THERESE MCG1NNESS: Okay. Thank you.
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SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Thank you. Anyone else like to address this Town Board before ! call on
Frank Carlin?
JIM BITSES: Just one short comment on what she said. She doesn't appreciate the fact that this is a
site plan, and it is not supposed to specific dimensions at this point.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: If it is helpful we will give them. Okay? No problem. Anyone else
before ! call on Frank? Frank, finish it up.
FRANK CARL1N: Is that slab still there that was originally put up in '86, ! think it was 75 by 50?
COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: That's the other building.
FRANK CARL1N: You are not planning on using that at all?
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: That is going, Frank.
FRANK CARL1N: ! have two more things, and then ! will be done, short things. No more animal
shelter. ! think what is going to happen here is to see that the end justifies the means. ! change that to
see that the end justifies the needs. ! think that is what has got to be done here now. About that sign by
the bridge, you know, when they put up that bridge ! checked with the State, they won't put up a sign
there, because it is automatically about 13'6". Anything above 13'6" they are not required to put a sign
up, so that is why there never was a sign there. ! am not trying to get out of having a sign in front of
my house now. ! already checked on that. Oh, two more question, Mr. Cramer that was had the study
on Route 48, does he still live in Brookhaven Town?
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Miller Place.
FRANK CARL1N: Brookhaven Town. Okay, one more thing. Is there anything in your Zoning Code
that requires homes to have fire detectors? Is there any law in your Zoning Code to have fire detectors
in your house? They are very important. Don't' get wrong.
COUNCILMAN MOORE: New York State Building Code.
FRANK CARL1N: Does New York State Building Code say in there, or require, where you should
put them in your house? ! mean, should they be in the middle of the room or on the end?
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: They recommend but is kind of your common sense as to where you
place them.
FRANK CARL1N: ! have a reason for this, but ! am not going to say. Thank you. Thank you very
much. That is all ! have to say. Have a nice evening. ! am going to go McDonald for a hamburger.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: ! will entertain a motion to adjourn.
Moved by Councilman Murphy, seconded by Councilman Romanelli, it was
RESOLVED that this Town Board meeting be and hereby is adjourned at 6:09 P.M.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli,
Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
Elizabeth A. Neville
Southold Town Clerk